60007 Breathtaking Footplate Run into Kings Cross - More
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- Sir Nigel Gresley From the Footplate dashes up to 75mph on the Cathedral's Express into King's Cross. Racing South from Retford. On DVD from BNT Productions at www.qleap.co.uk, look for Sir Nigel Gresley over the Settle-Carlisle.
At my age (73) the sight of these trains still brings a lump to the throat. What a wonderful sound of the whistle. One day I hope to be on a train pulled by one of these magnificent locomotives. Rock on!!
Snap! from another 73 yr old. I was born at Pinderfields Hospital in Wakefield, happily and in the first month of the NHS.
My whole family depended on coal. Some came down to Normanton from Tyneside, they worked for Humphrey Davey sinking the shafts. My grandfather Ralph Nicholson was the cagesmith at New Sharlston, he walked down from the Isle of Skye by way of Inverness and Seaham Harbour. My Dad was the Runt of the litter and not very healthy, he caught everything and had to take a clerking job with Pope and Pearsons at West Riding Colliery in Altofts.
One day, when I was 9, mum and dad sat me down and told me that the pit where dad worked was closing, there was no alternative so we will have to move.
They did get a job, training to run old persons homes in Hampshire and we moved.
That was 50 yrs ago.
What triggered this contribution was that shortly before my move, I went on a 4 day school trip to London. O
I have a vinyl LP record which is like new of sir Nigel gresley in 1959 on the run from king's cross to Doncaster and back with bill hoole driving and it did 112 mph
Lets also note that todays railway tracks are much, much better than they were years ago. They are using 'long welded rails' now and the clickety clack has dissapeared .
Wished they'd paint Gresley in garter blue like it was in the 70s and 80s and have the nameplate background in red instead of black, plus the wheels painted red also. It looks much better that way IMO. And why does Mallard have to be stuck in the NRM for?. It needs to on a track and running. I'm guessing it's all down to money, yet the control freaks running the country can spend billions on something most of us don't want like HS2 which is decimating huge areas of the countryside, all for the sake of getting to A-B quicker, and more importantly for the company it's about profits.
Steam engines will never get old
My father was a fireman on these A4 locomotives silverfox or lynx ,For about three years until he was conscripted and served in the army in Egypt,by the time he was demobbed He return to being a locomotive fireman,but His chance of promotion to a locomotive driver had gone as the diesel era was in transition, The locomotive driver brought my mother up through the tender corridor on to the foot plate to see my father ,and as the train was moving rapid , ,she on recalling the story many years later frightened her, as she said everything was shaking,😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Absolutely brilliant. the quality is unbelievable, thank you for posting I will be ordering the video
At 80 years and having fired many of these Loco's, drove some. I have never been asked to.
When I were a lad the A4s took me on holiday to Darlington loved the water troughs at Bushy hanging out of the window getting wet then clip round the ear by me dad !!sigh
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What's the LNE doing at Bushey?
Got to have endless respect for railwaymen, especially of the past, hard work, all weathers, salute them.
Where else but the U.K. can you see these beautiful behemoths from a bygone age in such pristine condition still working and just as well as the day they were built. British craftsmanship at its best. What happened.
So stable. Although that maybe down partly because of the welded rail and modern track laying techniques. Would be interesting to see if it was this smooth in the 60s.
Flappy Paddle the gresley locos were always know for riding well.
Certainly it wasn't that smooth.
Ironic really...45 years later and people still crave to board a train behind a `Steamer` What a pity succesive goverments are not `railway` interested. And at the end of the day what is it all about....`profit` and greed?? Look at what we have got now...an enormous electric train set where the average person finds it hard to afford to travel on them...so much for `progress`?
are you implying people from the 30s could afford to ride behind an express loco like this?
the current franchise system may be a mess, but in general, everything is MILES BETTER than when these were still cutting edge modern locomotives.
They have charm and are engineering marvels, but you need to take in the world, and not be left behind in your own little bubble, as is increasingly easy with ever faster technological improvements.
@@karlosbricks2413 actually common folk could afford to ride behind one of these in the 30s. If your implying that they could not then you need to check your railway history as most of the revenue came from third class passengers. The reason we pay so much now is network rail own the network and they charge the providers ie Virgin ect a fortune
We all like nostalgia but imagine a chuffer on it's way through the Channel Tunnel for example No? Neither can I.
I grew up a couple of hundred yards from Kings Cross station. Many a time in the fifties I'd spend hours on platform 10 taking the numbers. If I got lucky I'd get a ride on the footplate of one of the A4s up the platform after the train pulled out. No health and safety then and the drivers were good natured blokes most of them.
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She's capable of a lot more, as per many UK steam engines registered on the main line, but some sort of speed limit introduction is causing the steam to be limited, sadly. Tornado reached 92MPH in one of her test runs, I recall.
*Over 100 MPH Actually*
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The spirit of Bill Hoole was in the cab.
His engine was no 7 and he got her up to 112mph in 1959
Bill Hoole killed his fireman in the Oakleigh Park Tunnel. He was travelling, well over the track speed but, He always did that. To show how much compassion he had for his regular fireman, he turned up for his turn the very next day!
@@g7usl Albert Young died because of poorly completed permanent way work. A rail joint had been left 3/4" high and this derailed the trailing axle of the bogie of 60528. The crew heard a rattling noise from the front of the train whilst halfway through Barnet Tunnels. Bill applied the brakes and asked Albert to try to see what was happening and he looked out of the side window of the cab when they exited the tunnel into daylight again. He saw nothing and so got out of his seat to look out of the gap between engine and tender in order to lean out a little further. The driver of a down parcels train working on the slow line witnessed the locomotive and train exiting the tunnel with sparks coming from the bogie. A little later the whole bogie became derailed and quickly started to tear the track to pieces. Albert was caught by a dislodged rail and was snatched from the footplate and was crushed by the overturning first coach. Bill hung on to the two injectors, the ride became smoother as the locomotive tipped on to its side and after demolishing the signal gantry at Bridge Number 37 slid through the bridge without hitting anything a stopped shortly afterwards.
Bill was almost waist deep in coal but extricated himself and climbed out. He was badly shaken up and was not able to walk properly and so when the guard came up he asked him to go forward to protect the train. Fortunately the accident had been seen by the signalman at Cemetery box and he sent Obstruction Danger for all four lines and 'phoned Control. Bill tried to retrieve belongings from the tender and then set about trying to find Albert but could see nothing of him and worried about the locomotive and the fire left in the box he made his way back. There were no tools left in the tender but fortunately only a small amount of fire remained and this went out on its own.
After hospital treatment he was anxious about his wife and after persuading a doctor to send him home by ambulance he managed to return home before her, removed the bandage from around his head so as not to scare her and then did that most British thing and made a cup of tea for the pair of them. After a cup of tea and something to eat he made his way to Kings Cross to make his report. The accident took place on July 14th and Bill returned to work on July26th. The Joint Inquiry into the incident started on the following Monday and was held by W. E Green the District Superintendent. The Ministry of Transport Inquiry by Lt. Col. R. G. S. Wilson took place on Friday July 23rd.
It was found that 60528 had one slightly weakened spring on the bogie but it was concluded that it was probably chance that the derailment had not happened earlier since the high joint had existed for a week before the incident. The speed at which the accident took place was 70 mph but in the absence of the locomotive being fitted with a speedometer Bill could not be blamed for this and no engineer would apply a restriction with less than a 10 mph safety factor. And the speed restriction on the track section in question was 60 mph.
If folk are going to pass comment they really need to make sure that they have done a bit of homework.
@@DeCasoU1 I dispute your information. sonny?
Any one of Kings Cross/Top Shed men will conform that they eventually found the firemen UNDER THE TENDER! I don't know where you got your information from but they are completely WRONG.
At 75mph it looked like they were just coasting...little wonder that the record was over 50mph above that speed.
Great video, great locomotive.
I have no problem with video ads, but to call this 'Breathtaking Footplate Run into Kings Cross' is wrong as it is click bait. You do not expect the whole video, but show it going into KingsX if you title it as that.
I sympathise with your view Peter. However it is a follow up excerpt video to the original 'Breathtaking Footplate Run into King's Cross,' which does actually show the arrival in the terminus. If you haven't seen that, do check the Channel and find it. The title of the one you comment on is 'Breathtaking Footplate Run into King's Cross - More.' The idea is to give subscribers more from the original full version which was available on DVD.
Brilliant vid. Can't believe how stable those locos are at that kind of speed. I recall when 4472 visited Australia our drivers would comment about this and the contrast to our locos.
Many has been the comment that an A3 or A4 was the best riding vehicle in an entire train! Certainly the A4s were spectacularly good, right from the start. Driver Taylor, famous for reaching 112 on Silver Link on her first public run, simply had no idea he was running that quickly - it was the riding that fooled him!
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I am a romantic bloke.. I prefer a steam loko instead a Diesel one.
Looks like a very smooth ride, wish our tracks were like that.
Also, it has to be said, that as vehicles, Gresley A4s rode superbly.
They did have speedometers, but not in the early days. You will find one in 60007. Take a look at my video Sir Nigel Gresley over the Settle Carlisle on my channel. You can see the speedometer above Ron, the driver.
Thanks, Harlequin90 - The ECML journey is extra rushes as part of Sir Nigel Gresley on the Mainline, the DVD; and also there's Sir Nigel Gresley over the Settle-Carlisle, From the Footplate - the DVD's are at distributors, Quantum Leap Limited.
Good video, the driver Ron Smith is my Uncle.
I love class a4
Now I am blubbing....
From where to King’s Cross. Love to go on a long train journey. 😊
That is a wonderful video. I love to see cab rides in British steam locomotives.
Bloke driving hasn't got a clue! Only BAD drivers caused engines to slip. They are using boys to do this job and not the men that did it before with BR.
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How do they tell the speed anyway? I didn't think they installed speedometers (although I don't see why one couldn't). Do they just calculate from the time it took to travel between two points?
It has a speedometer fitted.
1:12 Slipping on level track? It might be fast but its not very sure-footed!
Any locomotive can produce a slip if the regulator is opened a little keenly!
So stable. Although that maybe down partly because of the welded rail and modern track laying techniques. Would be interesting to see if it was this smooth in the 60s.
Flappy Paddle it would of been smooth as they had equipment to see how smooth the ride was I think there is a video about it somewhere it's very interesting
I think it's a bit of both - try a class 142 at 60 mph along the underfunded, unwelded rails of the Bentham line and you'll see what I mean!
The best thing about hitting little used lines not yet replaced with welded track when you're steam hauled is the constant "clackety clack" of the wheels. You forget it's missing on the welded lines until it you come off them.
There's some rough bits of welded line on the network, there's some smooth bits of line that aren't.
@@robw7676 I used to calculate the speed as a schoolboy. Count the clickerty-clicks in 10 seconds and multiply by 4 for the mph. The rails were 60ft long. 60 mph is 88 feet per second. I would call that 90 fps, i was just using the second hand of my watch anyway, so, 90 fps would be 1.5 rail joints per second, equals 15 per 10 seconds, so speed equals 15x4 = 60 mph.
Awesome machine!
Flagged as spam for misleading title. No run into King's Cross is seen.
Please see Breathtaking Footplate run into King's Cross: th-cam.com/video/FY87_flBpFg/w-d-xo.html and you will see why it is more of the same trip.
I clicked this video for that exact title, did I leave annoyed and disappointed...no I didn’t and neither should, you ffs
NEVER fails to make my eyes moisten!
Fast and quiet.