Worked in Emergency Services for 35 years doing road crash rescue. In that time I have lost count of the number of caravan related crashes. My conclusion is that you should never tow anything heavier than the tow vehicle. We call it "the tail wagging the dog". Stay safe out there.
Apparently in the semis i think i remember the old man showing how u can lock the trailer brakes furst to straightern up if the trailer goes its own way. If the ebrakes are set properly. Should hitting the b.peddle, or the direct trziler rbake, if its within reach, potentially save ur arse.
I've had my Exceed for 3 years, has not skipped a beat. An absolute weapon on the sand, just make sure to upgrade the bashplates! Big fan of the AWD super select feature for every day driving.
Your assessment of the PS towing is spot on John. I had a QE and now have a QF PS and used to tow a heavy camper trailer (2.4T loaded) and, although possible, the PS was def at its limits in regards to braking, stability and engine cooling. I ended up selling that camper and bought a much smaller, lighter camper (loaded 1200kg) and it is much more suitable for the vehicle.
100% agree with the selection. I also spent 12 months researching for a mix between mall crawler and off road beast. Can attest that the only issue is intercooler hose splitting, $80 Replace this and its good to go. This car has down the Southwest comfortably. Rock crawled and outdone patrols and rangers on the sand. ( handy trick using 4h gravel not sand gives better work when sand driving) . I'm a mum of 2 boys and active but need the daily comfort for office work. It's a great car. In still as excited as the day I bought it.
Love your work John. It was your review that sold me on the Pajero Sport. I got an Exceed through your service with tow bar and a few other extras for $53k. Great savings compared to the $62k quoted from me nearest dealer.
i wanted to watch a video of pajero sport doing a trail, and this guy pops up. Of course, when John makes a video, you can not ignore it. I got so much out of this video!! good work mate!
I have to admit that Super Select 4wd system in the Mitsubishi is bloody good. But none of the car journos in the videos mention how good it is as they're more interested in reporting about power and safety features. Well the Super Select is a big safety feature to me. I wish MUX and the others had Super Select.
Ordered my GLS deLuxe in 11/21, arriving soon can't wait :-). Cashed in on the crazy used car market, sold my 2016 Ford FG X Xr6 ute for more than its' new price. Now retired, plan to do some motel camping and get some ks under the belt before investigating any Dingo Piss Ck scenarios (or not). Much appreciation for your video output, thanks John.
Well done for that report John for the guy with the Pajero. True story: I met a guy in the outback (25+yrs ago), around Alice Springs, I think. He was a real character. He had a Dark Blueish Triton and after he was telling us the places he had been to in it, I asked him why a 'normal' Triton and not a Land Cruiser etc. His reply was that they were great. Spare parts everywhere (interchangeable with other Mistu stuff), and tough as nails - "Wouldn't go 'bush' in anything else"! He was such a character and a engrossing talker, he told us he had once met the queen and had sat next to her having a meal. I told him 'yeah right'! He came back with a photo proving it and sure enough, there he is in a big tent right next to the queen at a long table with food laid out...!!!
I bought a 2016 Pajero Sport Exceed last November based on some of JC's comments on Pajero Sport and Triton. Around inner city Sydney it's a rolly polly slug totally unsuited for everything but the potholes and speedhumps. On a 4WD only track it suddenly makes a lot of sense with abilities that far surpass my own (limited) experience. I think it's an interesting enough vehicle I started a YT channel about my maintenance and upgrade preparations for a camping trip to the Northern Territory.
I bought the GLX variant as I dont have kids and don't need/want 7 seats. I bought it by clicking the card that's up there now - dude. Saved thousands. Anyway, I am towing a 1500kg (fully loaded) camper trailer. And when not doing that, using it as my work vehicle. After 15,000km from new have been averaging 7.8l/100kms. So the economy is pretty good. The super select II trans is great and the 8 speed auto does a great job. I suspect the suspension could do with being a little stiffer but I am yet to really confirm this. I could be wrong and it may be great as it is. The Mitsubishi dealers have been very good as well so that's nice. I saved about $14k not going for the Exceed, and don't really need the bells and whistles. I've fitted heavy duty seat covers and window tints. The only thing I may miss is the rear diff lock but as I'm not intending to do any serious off roading I doubt I'll need it. So my assessment of value for money is that it's top notch.
It's honestly hard to not watch your videos. They are very entertaining and most of all educational. I am dying for you to review the toyota fj cruiser, hopefully one day fingers crossed
Just bought a brand new Paj sport vrx in NZ (no sheep jokes please) which I suspect is The same as an exceed in Oz. The decision was economic, Ford Everest 20k dearer, Toyota prado best part of 40k dearer. Bought for the tow ability but don't want to tow over 2t. It appears you have vindicated the decision. Thanks John.
My wife’s pajero sport exceed is driven permanently in all wheel drive , we’ve had it for a few yrs now and it’s been no issue whatsoever . No complaints at all ….
@@davidnobular9220 at a rough guess its gotta be at least 150k , done multiple trips to Melbourne to Adelaide for sports and covered most of Vic towed my 8x5 tandem trailer several times and barely notice it ...
I was shocked & my good wife very upset when she returned home from the Mitsushtime dealership in Werribee. Her ASX was in for a 45,000km's book service, a minor service I may add at the stunning cost of $464. The most expensive oil change in history.
Awesome video very intelligent guy thanks you just made me happy I chose the right vehicle just waiting for my car to arrive from overseas can't wait 😊thanks
Went through the same process as Matt, and bought a PS. Excellent car. Find the super select very helpful as often you are wanting to swap from 2wd to 4wd on the fly, even on wet roads. It's comfortable long distance tourer and with the tyres the car comes with it is very quiet on the road, something that is rarely mentioned in reviews but important for a long haul. In neutral conditions (no wind and no towing @ 100kmh genuine) it gets between 7.3 and 7.8 lt per 100km. Good for a large car.
@@manuoz3545 I bought the middle of the range one which had electric seats and leather then as standard, but know there were some downgrades as a family member ordered the same model a few months later and got Satnav (which they didn't want) and no leather or electric seats which they did want.
Ooh I should mention I will be using the 4wd slot ofroad, mainly soft beach sand, (pt Lincoln & Ceduna) while towing a small 11ft caravan approx 1500kgs
Full time 4WD definitely has its uses on the pavement. My 2006 Cherokee offers 2WD, 4H unlocked, 4H locked and 4 Low locked. Best transfer case I've had so far. In 2WD I get better economy and in the rain I whack it into 4H unlocked, and can pull away from the lights in the pouring rain almost as if it was dry 😅 I do find it quite laughable that many of the more popular and $$ 4x4s out there today *cough*LandCruiser*cough* have a simple (archaic?) 2H-4H-4L transfer case
I had a Suzuki Grand Vitara 4x4 for 8 years and it was a fantastic vehicle. Reliable, tough, towed my 1.4T camper and was very good on wet and corrugated dirt roads. I've now stepped up to a 2021 MUX, one of the last of the old model. The Suzuki was great but the MUX is far, far better and uses way less fuel. Only thing I miss is the constant AWD.
We have a 19 model. The best car on and off road we've owned. But like all brands if your going to put it where must people don't or tow 2.5t plus. You need to upgrade everything, spend the money and don't forget a radio. It critical when on the maximum limit to be able to communicate with other on the road.
Ill be brief John. I had a 2018 triton and was left frustrated with mitsubishi australia and their dealer who sold me the vehicle. On several occasions i was stuck with vehicle where the super select auto would not select 4H and other occasions would release 4H. I needed assistance. I rang the dealer and e en went in to find out if there was something I was doing wrong. Cut a long story short dealer stated, they could help me it was intermittent issue and neededto see it when it was happening. I rang mitsubishi australia without assistance and didnt return calls. Sent emails as well . Emails were acknowledged but no assistance. Just letting people know that there are times when customer service fails. Sold vehicle. Greg Hart. Springfield. Qld. Where
John, thanks for a quality report as always. In relation to the 3.2 Everest / Ranger - I had my EGR valve on my 3.2 ranger replaced at about 95000km's as at service time it was indicating on my independent mechanic's computer that the EGR valve was starting to fail and I then had this confirmed on the computer at another independent mechanic. It makes me wonder if customers or mechanics are ignoring these warnings? My mechanic surmised to me that the stop / start system is at least partially to blame for city dwelling 3.2 everest and rangers that experience EGR issues and that he sees the same on diesel courier vehicles that are switched on and off all day. He also said that a 15000 km service interval is too long for an oil change and it should be 10000km or even less for a modern diesel engine operating in the city. He also installed a quality catch can (pro vent brand) for good measure. If you're wondering, I didn't bother contacting Ford as the vehicle was more than 12 months out of warranty and I didn't need the argument. I instead purchased a quality (I hope) aftermarket EGR valve and had my mechanic instal it for well under $1000.00. I do a lot of towing with my 3.2 Ranger, predominantly less than 2 tons and also it's a manual so I'm guessing both of those facts are helping it's longevity in that regard. Cheers, Greg
I love my pajero sport. We in South Africa have a law that your not allowed to tow a trailer that weight exceeds the cerb weight of your tow vehicle even if it is rated for high capacity.
Darius that's what we need here in Australia. it makes so much sense . towing something heavier then tje primary toe vehicle is stupid if you really stop and think about it. anyhow it is what it is here . another issue are TV adds. the car manufacturers shout out the tow rating. cheere
I bought a new Pajero Sport GLS because it had to have diff lock and GPS last year. The 8 speed is awesome and very economical, the seats are very comfortable even on short trips (under 2 hours) with adults in the back row. Off road standard is more than capable. We are than happy. Lastly, you can pick up a GLS current model for$51,740 drive away if you can get one. New model out later this year.
Hi John, I was shocked & my good wife very upset when she returned home from the Mitsushtime dealership in Werribee. Her ASX was in for a 45,000km's book service, a minor service I may add at the stunning cost of $464. The most expensive oil change in history.
Reference the chip shortage. I recently took receipt of a top spec BMW r 1250 rt motorbike. Upon pretest before acceptance I found that the Audio Comms system was inoperable. I said there must be a fault only THEN to be told. No fault. BMW sending bikes out without chips and they will retrofit as and when the chips become available. FFS.
Do people really believe that for 2 years straight car companies havent been able to secure chip supplies? Make customers wait a few months and charge them 10% or more, extra. Thats a good business plan for any board of directors.
I now have an Everest which has had a couple of minor issues in 4 years and have found Ford Customer Care excellent, unlike my experiences with MMA after owning 3 new Mitsys in row prior to that. It appears Ford have lifted their game.
I found there customer service excellent, in the last few years bought a mustang and wildtrak and got looked after, even got a total repray on the mustang under warranty with no hassles. The 3.2 everest is pretty much done, the new 2 bi turbo paired with a 20 speed auto seems reliable, and still there is a new everest coming that is full time 4wd and a shit load of power.
Letter from W.A. Dear John, several months ago I tossed up (and not in a vile way) the features and benefits of MU-X vs Fortuner vs Pajero Sport, with a view to ownership of one of these fine hard assets (that's an economics type reference and not a porno type thing). Not withstanding uncertainty over supply ("could be 3 mths, could be 6 mths, could be longer") I thought it wise to test drive each, in anticipation of happy days returning to our shores. First up the Pajero Sport Exceed. I was not expecting to be impressed however it was awesome. Had plenty of get up and go and fun (yes fun) to drive. A bit of moderate hooning around the suburbs and a few km's at 110 kph on the freeway was a real treat. No salesman in the passenger seat and "take it for as long as you want". I was seriously impressed. Loved playing with the paddle shift even though it was entirely unnecessary. Doubtless hands on steering wheel while selecting gears in boggy or sandy conditions is the real point of the system. Next was the top spec MU-X. I was expecting it to be a knock out winner. Seemed a good bit classier in the cabin. However not much fun to drive. Seemed slower than the P.S. even lacklustre. How could 3.0lt be slower than 2.4lt? Also getting the gear selector from park to drive was notchy just like my VZ Commodore, which I have been putting up with since 2006! Fortuner was next and I was delighted to be accompanied by one of Toyota's finest sales persons. She was actually very knowledgeable (not like the Ford bimbo of recent past) and easy on the eye to boot. Not such a bad thing. Top spec Fortuner had a bull bar and various other extras. Perhaps the extra weight dulled it's performance. Seemed a bit feistier than the MU-X and with 20 extra kW it should be. But not a real fun drive. Nice but not inspiring. So for me, on the day, purely in terms of fun factor, the Pajero Sport was the clear winner. If I was assured of a firm delivery date I would have put my money down. Fast forward a few weeks and I had the opportunity to drive another Fortuner, minus passenger and minus bullbar. Even put in a few km's on a stretch of dirt road. Still not as inspiring as the P.S. but it wasn't all bad. On long country roads, will I feel the need to be playing with the flappy paddles or drifting around slippery corners in 4H? Loved steering on the throttle in my WRX but (sadly) I'm older and wiser now. Anyhoo expecting to pick up a Fotuner GXL in a week or so and pretty excited about that. Would have bought the Pajero Sport but couldn't get a firm delivery date. Managed to get a Feb manufacture date with March delivery on the GXL so job done. Let's hope the GD-FTV engine has finally been sorted. Bottom line - I'm happy the Fortuner is almost here. However I concur with your opinion - Pajero Sport is a fine machine. Rgds Clive
@@mocme4560 "Sliding around" - used to do that in my AWD WRX (admittedly not on the highway). Great fun. Don't suppose I'll be doing it in the Fortuner. RWD only (2h) vehicles have been around for a very long time. No reason to suppose that they are all "sliding around". Certainly not the ones that I drive (SS Thunder VZ Ute) or will drive (Fortuner). Thanks for your comments.
Love mine even though it's a base model one. Good value, versatile and capable imo. I saw a 2018 MUX with 30k on it in a car yard recently and they wanted 54k for it. Not sure the spec but it didn't have any accessories on it at all. Cripes I could sell my Sport and make a profit on it I reckon. Strange times we live in.
@@darrengray2309 Hahahahaha. Fanboy are we? Considering that they are similar prices to begin with then that sort of suggests that they are similar vehicles and I'm sure they both have strengths and weaknesses. Mine will be worth a similar amount or more due to the gear it has on it less the dealer margin of course.
@@darrengray2309 Funny cos that "crappy" 2.4 is current gen technology and even people in the know say that the drivetrain in the Sport/Triton is very robust. Haven't they just added a heap to the price of the current MUX in spite of it still running the old drivetrain? What's the roof weight capacity? I get it you like one over the other whilst I prefer the opposite so just buy whichever one you like. Own an MUX do you? Asked John what he thinks of them? Lol
Pajero in general is very under rated when it comes to on & off road capabilities. The Super Select 2 Transfer case can be changed on the fly between 2H & 4H at speeds of upto 80km (according to my owners manual for a Gen 3 Pajero), all you have to do is drop it into Neutral and change. You can run in 4H all day every day and a lot of Pajero drivers do exactly that especially in the wet or when towing. I fully agree about the tow capacity, I don't like the thought of towing more than my vehicles weight. Don't forget the Roof Load Rating either if you intend to put roof racks on. I know with the Normal Pajero the manufactures limit is 100kg dynamic and the person I spoke with at Mits told me to deduct 30% if going on "Unsealed" roads. I carry 3 Roof Racks, Basket, Awning, Small tool box, Shovel and solar panel on the roof of mine and sometimes my camp toilet to keep it out of the car. A swag or smallish tent would be fine but dont go over the top with large awnings, Roof Top Tents or loads of fuel and water.
@@ln5747 this may be the case in newer or Auto vehicles. The manual for my Gen 3 states "The transfer shift lever can be operated while the vehicle is either moving or stationary. In case lever operation is necessary while vehicle is moving, place vehicle in the straight ahead position and depress the clutch pedal to the floor before operating the lever". That effectively puts it in neutral.
Not sure what issues your talking with the Everest. My 3.2L 2017 has 140k with plenty of those towing a trailer for family camping trips all up and down the eastern seaboard. Have never had an issue nor have I ran into other Everest owners that have issues during my trips. I almost bought a Fortuna before I chose the Everest and it was a great choice.
Thought I'd put this here as apparently it's very common with pajero sport and after seeing your subaru cvt vid. Sports have an issue with delaminating headlights that mitsubishi will not cover. Dealers are forced to try and get new headlights via daytime running lamps yellowing instead. Which probably wouldn't happen if the headlights weren't delaminating too begin with.
Not that the old Pajero has a much bigger payload but it did have more room. The new Pajero has better safety features which makes it a good idea. I just wish the new Pajero sport was a bit bigger inside.
Looked at a Pajero Sport back in 2018, and very much impressed untill the test drive. I had no room for my left leg. The centre console was just a pain. Not sure if that's still the case.
I know someone who regularly tows around 3.6 tons with a 2002 triton ute, about 120 meters 😄. He winches the boat back out as the vehicles is that knackered it only just rolls the boat on the flat
It would have been awesome if the spare was on the back door and the extra space underneath was filled with extra fuel capacity, and if the cockpit wasn't so claustrophobic. The centre console is too wide. The spare on the back door is preferred when you have to change a tyre in a mud puddle. Otherwise the car is excellent in my opinion.
I have family who own an older Pajaro Sport and its great. Its comfortable enough to be in as a passenger for long drives (3 hours or more) while also being capable enough to go to some very nice 4x4 only beaches.
I always wanted to comment but this channel had 🔒 the comment section 💀 my head was running 🏃♂️ nuts🤯 and i always to appreciate your videos atleast today i did
My suggestion is, if you want to tow and take the mob, ditch the Exceed and get the GLX. Save 80kg by losing the row three seats which are an awful design anyway - there's your recovery gear weight allowance.
Yeah having the awd is certainly a major plus for Paj and Triton, that being said, it makes you wonder why Mitsubishi bother having the super select with the 2wd option? Better to just leave it with permanent awd with the centre diff lock switch, like most other proper 4wds. Why would you bother using 2wd if you can be in awd? The extra fuel usage would be negligible, as you're still turning the front diff and drive shafts, the extra traction in awd mode is such an advantage, especially in an emergence situations, such as oil on the road ect.
I"m a bit confused. In other videos you are saying that coil springs are not optimal for towing. I'm tossing up between a used Triton and Pajero for towing a caravan and anticipate carrying water etc
The Pajero Sport ticks a lot of boxes ... Super Select 4WD being a big one. But for me, it also presents with some deal-breakers. 1) Fuel capacity at 68 litres is just about at the bottom of the class. Loaded up and towing, your bush-bashing range is extremely limited. 2) Due to the PS having its safety sensors behind the grill, fitment of "essentials" such as spot lights is difficult. There was talk MMAL was hoping the mothership would change this. 3) The engine is small with relatively modest outputs within the class.
you can get extended range fuel tanks. you can fit traditional round spotties either side of the Mitsubishi logo (the radar cruise control is behind it). and for towing its only really comfortable with a van under 2 tonnes.
@@andys31337 Of course you can get an aftermarket fuel tank. But if the vehicle was built to purpose, you wouldn't have to. Mitsubishi advise not to fit spotties and will not guarantee the operation of their safety systems. The hint is that OEM nudge and Bull Bars come without spotties mounting tabs. As always, claimed towing capacity is theoretical only. In the real world, the tare weight of the tow vehicle is a much better guide.
Good video John, I bought the Outlander (thru you and very happy with it). I didn’t have the funds for the Pajero, funny how kids drain the wallet, but have my eyes set on one in another couple of years
Love your comments at about the 12:10 mark (for the next 60 seconds). I am not found of hearing uneducated people spout off that the pandemic caused these supply chain issues. Economics is all about supply and demand and the pandemic caused changes in what commodities were in demand and what could be supplied. Companies that did not react appropriately to these changes because they sat on their duff are the companies who perpetuate this myth that root cause was the pandemic. These companies should have had skilled purchasers that were able to renegotiate supplier deals (albeit at slightly higher prices) so they did not get left out in the cold.
My FJ Cruiser gets plenty of hate for 'only' being able to tow 2.25 tonnes. However, it has a maximum payload of 577kg which is within 50kg a 200 Series LC.
I had the choice of FJ Cruiser or a PB challenger 11 years ago. Challenger, (Now Pajero Sport in our market), was the clear choice of ability and extras. Kinda wish I bought the FJ, only for the resale. Very happy with the Mitsubishi challenger xls, and local dealer though. The vehicle has done proper rough stuff without complaint or break.
Hey John, First time driving a Pajero today (3.2lt) & was browsing the old TH-cam for research and hoped you had a review on one... Surprisingly not after being a Mits Fan boy 😂. Either way I was impressed with comfort and how it drove as iv always driven very agricultural ute's it is a step up there. I am currently in the used market looking for a honest priced 4x4 with a safety for the kids & reliability for towing. Would you recommend looking at the Pajero 3.2lts or is there a reason you didn't give them any advertisement? Much appreciated for any advice. Regards, Brodie.
I’ve seen several of your videos talking about the Super Select 2 Gear system in Mitsubishi where its 4H is unlike 4H in other 4x4s. Besides able to use 4H to go on high traction roads ( normal highways and bitumen roads ) I was told there is a speed limit ( not more than 100km per hr ) when travelling on 4H in a Mitsubishi. I’ve never heard you saying such so it came as a surprise if that is true?
No speed limit, no km travelled limit, it just turns it in to an AWD. It's bloody brilliant. I drive a current Triton and when it's a working week, we are unladen (bought for weekend camping). The 4H mode is great in a ute as they lose their arse end easily on a wet road. Not nearly as easily in AWD 4H.
Excellent advises thank you sir. Can you advise which shocks absorbers I can use for my new Mitsubishi Pajero Sport 2022 pls?… can’t find any over here in the Sultanate of Oman where I’m living. Many thanks.
We had the same choice 3 years ago. Ended up with the MU-X as the Pajero Sport has very limited space in the 3rd raw and also cramps the drivers legs vs the MU-X where you get much more room. We also wanted the better engine and transmission (both the most reliable on the market, with the latter being shared with Toyota). The “missing” AWD hasn’t been an issue. The only time AWD would be required as far as I can see is when you have an intermittently slipping high traction surface, or if you want to launch at the lights (not on the cards). If the road is genuinely slippery you can simply engage 4wd (as per the manual). I get it’s a nice feature. Just saying we haven’t missed it. We have also engaged 4wd a couple of time during very heavy rain. This was totally fine! Very happy with the decision. I still look forward to driving the MU-X. Love it.
Yea not sure what you're on about the transmission... It's fitted to 3 vehicles... Lexus/Landcruiser/Pajero Sport. They've literally taken the transmission fitted to the most reliable 4x4 ever, genius really.
The volkswagen amarok that is hated here for some reason has had an 8 speed since day one, had the twin turbo 2.0 engine that everyone uses now even though it was apparently not powerful enough when it came out. And also runs full time all wheel drive. Only now are other manufacturers copying all this stuff its nothing new. And did I mention a standard rear diff lock.
Can you explain the difference between pig and dog trailers? You see dogs being used in the trucking industry but why don't we see any use of dog trailers with cars? Wouldn't it be more stable with less tow ball weight and higher payload capacities?
Because 99% of people couldn't reverse a dog trailer. A pig trailer has the wheels in the centre and a dog trailer has the wheels at the ends of the trailer. They have a extra pivot point normally the front dolly spins on a ball race. I have seen a caravan with a fixed axle and the wheels turned with steering arms connected to the drawbar similar to to set up on a solid axle 4x4
10:58....Missed it by that much, that's what SHE said! 😅 I hear that constantly from the Mrs during 'special cuddles' time. She mentions something about missing a 'spot'. Am I missing something? I don't know I am asleep before she finishes off whatever she's rambling on about. 10:30 > 10:50... 'inch forward' 'not break stuff' 'Crank shaft' 'slip' You certainly crack me up mate, thanks for a great belly laugh. In all seriousness now though I've really enjoyed your channel over the years when researching. You certainly are one of a kind. Keep the great Aussie humour going, we need to not lose our ability to laugh at ourselves in this WOKE eat WOKE world we unfortunately now live in.
Dear John. I truly appreciate and admire all your info and explanation , advises indeed. My question is should I go for the Pajero sport 2.4L diesel or the MU X 3L Diesel ?… your advise highly appreciated. I do carry standard four people in the vehicle, usually with lots of luggage. And I’m definitely planning to lift the car in this case which shock Absorbers Kit could you advise?… many thanks indeed…
When it comes to towing (and many other things) far too many people are disrespecting the simple physics. Many I'm sure, simply don't understand. Many adopt the "It won't happen to me" mantra.
Last year I bought a 2020 Outlander Phev that was a demo with 2600km that only cost $41990. This is by far the best car I've owned including a 2018 Prado GXL & 2020 Hybrid Camry that was too small & not a good family car unlike the Phev. You hardly ever need fuel & lately have been charging for free at my work, local shopping centres & beach carparks which is a phenomenal feeling. I owned a 2014 Outlander Phev for 4 years & regretted selling it so now am stoked to have the newer model with slightly larger 2.4l engine & bigger 13.8kwh battery. Once the battery is dead I still have over 550km of range so is the best of both worlds & you can travel to regional areas without massive range anxiety. The instant EV torque is addictive, super quiet, quite fast & the regenerative paddles are unbelievable especially going down steep hills, approaching traffic lights or when someone locks up in-front of you. I have 20 solar panels on my roof & charge mostly in the arvo with a home charger I installed. We rarely get electricity bills - mostly get credits. My commute is 25km each way so usually get home with a few kms of EV range remaining. Once you drive a PHEV you realise just how good they are & don't want to go back to an ICE or hybrid car again.
I would like to ask a couple of Questions about The TEG system of towing hitches You sent I have rated D shackles and I am wondering if there is any right position for the shackle? You sent Pin taking the weight of the trailer or the body of the shackle taking the weight? You sent and also Lynch pin verses "R" clip in the hitch pin and the pin that goes through the hitch that is attached to the tow vehicle
Hi John great videos I would like.to know more about what cars you can drive in 4wd on hard pavement and what you can't drive. Any chance you could do a video on way in would improve alot of people's knowledge. PS looking at buying a new Ford ranger or raptor but I've the Ford customer care enema twice before, really don't need a third. WHAT dual cab ute do you suggest?
Great informative clip, I don't really understand how car manufacturers can get away with inflating the numbers of safety load limits just because its in a marketing "best interests" , like isn't anyone assessing these figures for validity?, I remember years ago when the Toyota fj cruiser was released & its basically a reinforced prado 150 with a slight shorter wheelbase & it shares alot of parts with the same numbers as that vehicle yet the secondary front axle load limit is capped for the cruiser at no ssm, & the prado is able to be taken much much higher yet the part numbers are the same. Not sure how that works, maybe to make that vehicle a less attractive option than the 150, due to having all the "good fruit" for alot less dollar anyway, how good is it to actually have good faith in advise these days, kudos JC...
There are "standards" and tests for load limits, however people often think that the "limit" is the "normal operating point" - and decide to operate at the limits constantly. Then they become increasing likely to "have a bad experience" - end up wrecked or disabled. - Barely getting by at a slow speed isn't the same as "spritely" fanging it at 110kph. jk. Don't forget that On-Highway "limits" need to be reduced by up to 50% for offroad use (in reality) - note the rating of off-road military trucks vs their on-road rating.... (ie. a 5 ton truck can carry 10 tons onroad, 5 ton offroad, under "all conditions" - winches may be handy)
Worked in Emergency Services for 35 years doing road crash rescue. In that time I have lost count of the number of caravan related crashes. My conclusion is that you should never tow anything heavier than the tow vehicle. We call it "the tail wagging the dog". Stay safe out there.
Apparently in the semis i think i remember the old man showing how u can lock the trailer brakes furst to straightern up if the trailer goes its own way.
If the ebrakes are set properly. Should hitting the b.peddle, or the direct trziler rbake, if its within reach, potentially save ur arse.
Could be wrong in mymemory though.
Semi trailers?????
Do they come with a bong holders?
@@ToddHendry in the USA, it's called a tractor trailer.
I've had my Exceed for 3 years, has not skipped a beat. An absolute weapon on the sand, just make sure to upgrade the bashplates! Big fan of the AWD super select feature for every day driving.
Your assessment of the PS towing is spot on John. I had a QE and now have a QF PS and used to tow a heavy camper trailer (2.4T loaded) and, although possible, the PS was def at its limits in regards to braking, stability and engine cooling. I ended up selling that camper and bought a much smaller, lighter camper (loaded 1200kg) and it is much more suitable for the vehicle.
100% agree with the selection. I also spent 12 months researching for a mix between mall crawler and off road beast. Can attest that the only issue is intercooler hose splitting, $80 Replace this and its good to go. This car has down the Southwest comfortably. Rock crawled and outdone patrols and rangers on the sand. ( handy trick using 4h gravel not sand gives better work when sand driving) . I'm a mum of 2 boys and active but need the daily comfort for office work. It's a great car. In still as excited as the day I bought it.
Love your work John. It was your review that sold me on the Pajero Sport. I got an Exceed through your service with tow bar and a few other extras for $53k. Great savings compared to the $62k quoted from me nearest dealer.
when was this?
We bought a Triton in 2017. We liked it so much we also bought a GLS Pajero Sport in 2019. So we now own 2 Mitsubishi’s. Very happy campers!
Happy until you try to sell them in a few years 🙄
i wanted to watch a video of pajero sport doing a trail, and this guy pops up. Of course, when John makes a video, you can not ignore it. I got so much out of this video!! good work mate!
I have to admit that Super Select 4wd system in the Mitsubishi is bloody good. But none of the car journos in the videos mention how good it is as they're more interested in reporting about power and safety features. Well the Super Select is a big safety feature to me. I wish MUX and the others had Super Select.
Ordered my GLS deLuxe in 11/21, arriving soon can't wait :-). Cashed in on the crazy used car market, sold my 2016 Ford FG X Xr6 ute for more than its' new price. Now retired, plan to do some motel camping and get some ks under the belt before investigating any Dingo Piss Ck scenarios (or not).
Much appreciation for your video output, thanks John.
Well done for that report John for the guy with the Pajero.
True story: I met a guy in the outback (25+yrs ago), around Alice Springs, I think. He was a real character. He had a Dark Blueish Triton and after he was telling us the places he had been to in it, I asked him why a 'normal' Triton and not a Land Cruiser etc.
His reply was that they were great. Spare parts everywhere (interchangeable with other Mistu stuff), and tough as nails - "Wouldn't go 'bush' in anything else"!
He was such a character and a engrossing talker, he told us he had once met the queen and had sat next to her having a meal. I told him 'yeah right'! He came back with a photo proving it and sure enough, there he is in a big tent right next to the queen at a long table with food laid out...!!!
I bought a 2016 Pajero Sport Exceed last November based on some of JC's comments on Pajero Sport and Triton.
Around inner city Sydney it's a rolly polly slug totally unsuited for everything but the potholes and speedhumps.
On a 4WD only track it suddenly makes a lot of sense with abilities that far surpass my own (limited) experience.
I think it's an interesting enough vehicle I started a YT channel about my maintenance and upgrade preparations for a camping trip to the Northern Territory.
Always enjoy the succinctness of your videos, John.
I bought the GLX variant as I dont have kids and don't need/want 7 seats. I bought it by clicking the card that's up there now - dude.
Saved thousands.
Anyway, I am towing a 1500kg (fully loaded) camper trailer. And when not doing that, using it as my work vehicle. After 15,000km from new have been averaging 7.8l/100kms.
So the economy is pretty good.
The super select II trans is great and the 8 speed auto does a great job.
I suspect the suspension could do with being a little stiffer but I am yet to really confirm this. I could be wrong and it may be great as it is.
The Mitsubishi dealers have been very good as well so that's nice.
I saved about $14k not going for the Exceed, and don't really need the bells and whistles. I've fitted heavy duty seat covers and window tints. The only thing I may miss is the rear diff lock but as I'm not intending to do any serious off roading I doubt I'll need it.
So my assessment of value for money is that it's top notch.
It's honestly hard to not watch your videos. They are very entertaining and most of all educational. I am dying for you to review the toyota fj cruiser, hopefully one day fingers crossed
The new FJ Cruiser!? I'm not sure that's a thing. 🤔
@@samboelliott1 more like the 2014 model onwards
@@edemkounou7734 2014 until end of production in 2016 were all the same specification here in Australia.
Got a 2017 exceed a year ago, absolutely love it
You're the best and most realistic auto personality on TH-cam.
No way re-drive gives the most for those looking at new cars by both looking at used and new cars ..
Good advice John! #respect. PS miss seeing you enjoying the glass "batfone", I could give you and Tiffany some lessons on its proper use...
I’ve had my 2013 Paj Sport for a few years now and extremely happy, super select exceptional. I’m sure the newer Paj Sport taking it to the next level
Excellent towing and loading advice
That shirt is an 11/10 John.
I'm picking up my 2022 GLS Triton this Thursday. Quite excited to be honest.
Just bought a brand new Paj sport vrx in NZ (no sheep jokes please) which I suspect is The same as an exceed in Oz. The decision was economic, Ford Everest 20k dearer, Toyota prado best part of 40k dearer. Bought for the tow ability but don't want to tow over 2t. It appears you have vindicated the decision. Thanks John.
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Once again, the voice of reason. Thanks for the entertaining commentary too :)
I tune in to see the tshirts. That’s a beauty, dude.
Thank you sooooo much for your honest, down to earth info regarding towing, imparticular 🙂
My wife’s pajero sport exceed is driven permanently in all wheel drive , we’ve had it for a few yrs now and it’s been no issue whatsoever . No complaints at all ….
How many km, might I ask ?
@@davidnobular9220 at a rough guess its gotta be at least 150k , done multiple trips to Melbourne to Adelaide for sports and covered most of Vic towed my 8x5 tandem trailer several times and barely notice it ...
@@raymondnecke5806 Thanks....thinking of getting one but I want to get 200,000km out of it if possible.
@@davidnobular9220 it'll do it easily
I was shocked & my good wife very upset when she returned home from the Mitsushtime dealership in Werribee.
Her ASX was in for a 45,000km's book service, a minor service I may add at the stunning cost of $464. The most expensive oil change in history.
Awesome video very intelligent guy thanks you just made me happy I chose the right vehicle just waiting for my car to arrive from overseas can't wait 😊thanks
Brilliant summation of tow limits. Too many unaware drivers believe the marketing lies.
Went through the same process as Matt, and bought a PS. Excellent car. Find the super select very helpful as often you are wanting to swap from 2wd to 4wd on the fly, even on wet roads. It's comfortable long distance tourer and with the tyres the car comes with it is very quiet on the road, something that is rarely mentioned in reviews but important for a long haul. In neutral conditions (no wind and no towing @ 100kmh genuine) it gets between 7.3 and 7.8 lt per 100km. Good for a large car.
I am thinkin of PS - but which one is best. any advise ? tnx
@@manuoz3545 I bought the middle of the range one which had electric seats and leather then as standard, but know there were some downgrades as a family member ordered the same model a few months later and got Satnav (which they didn't want) and no leather or electric seats which they did want.
Thanks John
Great work John. I've been trying to tell folks about the realistic limitations of towing for years.
Auto limitation expert John Cadogan. Well done! Yesssss☺👍
Ooh I should mention I will be using the 4wd slot ofroad, mainly soft beach sand, (pt Lincoln & Ceduna) while towing a small 11ft caravan approx 1500kgs
Agree about 4H with centre diff. My Suzuki Grand Vitara does not bother with a 2WD option. why would you want that? like on rails in the wet.
Full time 4WD definitely has its uses on the pavement. My 2006 Cherokee offers 2WD, 4H unlocked, 4H locked and 4 Low locked. Best transfer case I've had so far. In 2WD I get better economy and in the rain I whack it into 4H unlocked, and can pull away from the lights in the pouring rain almost as if it was dry 😅
I do find it quite laughable that many of the more popular and $$ 4x4s out there today *cough*LandCruiser*cough* have a simple (archaic?) 2H-4H-4L transfer case
I had a Suzuki Grand Vitara 4x4 for 8 years and it was a fantastic vehicle. Reliable, tough, towed my 1.4T camper and was very good on wet and corrugated dirt roads. I've now stepped up to a 2021 MUX, one of the last of the old model. The Suzuki was great but the MUX is far, far better and uses way less fuel. Only thing I miss is the constant AWD.
Good advice. Love my 2017 pajero sport, very capable at reasonable price.
We have a 19 model. The best car on and off road we've owned. But like all brands if your going to put it where must people don't or tow 2.5t plus.
You need to upgrade everything, spend the money and don't forget a radio. It critical when on the maximum limit to be able to communicate with other on the road.
Ill be brief John. I had a 2018 triton and was left frustrated with mitsubishi australia and their dealer who sold me the vehicle. On several occasions i was stuck with vehicle where the super select auto would not select 4H and other occasions would release 4H. I needed assistance. I rang the dealer and e en went in to find out if there was something I was doing wrong. Cut a long story short dealer stated, they could help me it was intermittent issue and neededto see it when it was happening. I rang mitsubishi australia without assistance and didnt return calls. Sent emails as well . Emails were acknowledged but no assistance. Just letting people know that there are times when customer service fails. Sold vehicle.
Greg Hart. Springfield. Qld.
Where
Its not that they shot themselves, as you said, but while holding that aim, they have switched from single shot to full-auto.
John, thanks for a quality report as always. In relation to the 3.2 Everest / Ranger - I had my EGR valve on my 3.2 ranger replaced at about 95000km's as at service time it was indicating on my independent mechanic's computer that the EGR valve was starting to fail and I then had this confirmed on the computer at another independent mechanic. It makes me wonder if customers or mechanics are ignoring these warnings? My mechanic surmised to me that the stop / start system is at least partially to blame for city dwelling 3.2 everest and rangers that experience EGR issues and that he sees the same on diesel courier vehicles that are switched on and off all day. He also said that a 15000 km service interval is too long for an oil change and it should be 10000km or even less for a modern diesel engine operating in the city. He also installed a quality catch can (pro vent brand) for good measure. If you're wondering, I didn't bother contacting Ford as the vehicle was more than 12 months out of warranty and I didn't need the argument. I instead purchased a quality (I hope) aftermarket EGR valve and had my mechanic instal it for well under $1000.00. I do a lot of towing with my 3.2 Ranger, predominantly less than 2 tons and also it's a manual so I'm guessing both of those facts are helping it's longevity in that regard. Cheers, Greg
Hey mate, any chance I can pm you for a chat about your Everest information?
Since we're talking new cars coming down the pipe... Can't wait to see your take on the new 2023 Kia Niro .. looks totally different & better
I love my pajero sport. We in South Africa have a law that your not allowed to tow a trailer that weight exceeds the cerb weight of your tow vehicle even if it is rated for high capacity.
Darius that's what we need here in Australia. it makes so much sense . towing something heavier then tje primary toe vehicle is stupid if you really stop and think about it. anyhow it is what it is here . another issue are TV adds. the car manufacturers shout out the tow rating. cheere
Yes!
I bought a new Pajero Sport GLS because it had to have diff lock and GPS last year. The 8 speed is awesome and very economical, the seats are very comfortable even on short trips (under 2 hours) with adults in the back row. Off road standard is more than capable. We are than happy. Lastly, you can pick up a GLS current model for$51,740 drive away if you can get one. New model out later this year.
Hi John, I was shocked & my good wife very upset when she returned home from the Mitsushtime dealership in Werribee.
Her ASX was in for a 45,000km's book service, a minor service I may add at the stunning cost of $464. The most expensive oil change in history.
Reference the chip shortage.
I recently took receipt of a top spec BMW r 1250 rt motorbike.
Upon pretest before acceptance I found that the Audio Comms system was inoperable.
I said there must be a fault only THEN to be told. No fault. BMW sending bikes out without chips and they will retrofit as and when the chips become available. FFS.
Bavarian Money Wasters are not known for their durability in the motorbike world.
@@whomcares3438 Tell me about it
@@whomcares3438 Don't worry, like all BMW SUV's it will probably never go off-road anyway.
Do people really believe that for 2 years straight car companies havent been able to secure chip supplies? Make customers wait a few months and charge them 10% or more, extra. Thats a good business plan for any board of directors.
I now have an Everest which has had a couple of minor issues in 4 years and have found Ford Customer Care excellent, unlike my experiences with MMA after owning 3 new Mitsys in row prior to that. It appears Ford have lifted their game.
Hard to believe.
Ford? Hahahahahahahaha!
I found there customer service excellent, in the last few years bought a mustang and wildtrak and got looked after, even got a total repray on the mustang under warranty with no hassles. The 3.2 everest is pretty much done, the new 2 bi turbo paired with a 20 speed auto seems reliable, and still there is a new everest coming that is full time 4wd and a shit load of power.
@@Neishy4AGTE While the dealership has also been very good my post was about Ford Customer Care
@@stendecstretcher5678 why?
Letter from W.A.
Dear John,
several months ago I tossed up (and not in a vile way) the features and benefits of MU-X vs Fortuner vs Pajero Sport, with a view to ownership of one of these fine hard assets (that's an economics type reference and not a porno type thing). Not withstanding uncertainty over supply ("could be 3 mths, could be 6 mths, could be longer") I thought it wise to test drive each, in anticipation of happy days returning to our shores.
First up the Pajero Sport Exceed. I was not expecting to be impressed however it was awesome. Had plenty of get up and go and fun (yes fun) to drive. A bit of moderate hooning around the suburbs and a few km's at 110 kph on the freeway was a real treat. No salesman in the passenger seat and "take it for as long as you want". I was seriously impressed. Loved playing with the paddle shift even though it was entirely unnecessary. Doubtless hands on steering wheel while selecting gears in boggy or sandy conditions is the real point of the system.
Next was the top spec MU-X. I was expecting it to be a knock out winner. Seemed a good bit classier in the cabin. However not much fun to drive. Seemed slower than the P.S. even lacklustre. How could 3.0lt be slower than 2.4lt? Also getting the gear selector from park to drive was notchy just like my VZ Commodore, which I have been putting up with since 2006!
Fortuner was next and I was delighted to be accompanied by one of Toyota's finest sales persons. She was actually very knowledgeable (not like the Ford bimbo of recent past) and easy on the eye to boot. Not such a bad thing. Top spec Fortuner had a bull bar and various other extras. Perhaps the extra weight dulled it's performance. Seemed a bit feistier than the MU-X and with 20 extra kW it should be. But not a real fun drive. Nice but not inspiring.
So for me, on the day, purely in terms of fun factor, the Pajero Sport was the clear winner. If I was assured of a firm delivery date I would have put my money down.
Fast forward a few weeks and I had the opportunity to drive another Fortuner, minus passenger and minus bullbar. Even put in a few km's on a stretch of dirt road. Still not as inspiring as the P.S. but it wasn't all bad. On long country roads, will I feel the need to be playing with the flappy paddles or drifting around slippery corners in 4H? Loved steering on the throttle in my WRX but (sadly) I'm older and wiser now.
Anyhoo expecting to pick up a Fotuner GXL in a week or so and pretty excited about that. Would have bought the Pajero Sport but couldn't get a firm delivery date. Managed to get a Feb manufacture date with March delivery on the GXL so job done. Let's hope the GD-FTV engine has finally been sorted.
Bottom line - I'm happy the Fortuner is almost here. However I concur with your opinion - Pajero Sport is a fine machine.
Rgds
Clive
But the Fortuner is only a part time 4x4 so you will not be using 4H on tarred surfaces only off road….to my knowledge…..
@@mocme4560 Your point being?
@@clives4501 the Pajero Sport can be driven in 4 h on a hard surface, with the Fortuner you really will be slidding around on the highway in 2h.
@@mocme4560 "Sliding around" - used to do that in my AWD WRX (admittedly not on the highway). Great fun. Don't suppose I'll be doing it in the Fortuner. RWD only (2h) vehicles have been around for a very long time. No reason to suppose that they are all "sliding around". Certainly not the ones that I drive (SS Thunder VZ Ute) or will drive (Fortuner). Thanks for your comments.
Hey John, massive fan and also keen on your opinion on the Holden Adventra - thanks
Love mine even though it's a base model one.
Good value, versatile and capable imo.
I saw a 2018 MUX with 30k on it in a car yard recently and they wanted 54k for it. Not sure the spec but it didn't have any accessories on it at all.
Cripes I could sell my Sport and make a profit on it I reckon.
Strange times we live in.
Thats because the MUX is such a better car than your Pajero sport
@@darrengray2309 hardly! They have nothing on them basic and dated been a 2018
@@darrengray2309 Hahahahaha.
Fanboy are we?
Considering that they are similar prices to begin with then that sort of suggests that they are similar vehicles and I'm sure they both have strengths and weaknesses.
Mine will be worth a similar amount or more due to the gear it has on it less the dealer margin of course.
@@oldbloke204 no fanboy little boy just know that the Isuzu motor is 10 times better than that crappy 2.4 and that's just a start
@@darrengray2309 Funny cos that "crappy" 2.4 is current gen technology and even people in the know say that the drivetrain in the Sport/Triton is very robust.
Haven't they just added a heap to the price of the current MUX in spite of it still running the old drivetrain?
What's the roof weight capacity?
I get it you like one over the other whilst I prefer the opposite so just buy whichever one you like.
Own an MUX do you?
Asked John what he thinks of them?
Lol
Love this guys humour
Pajero in general is very under rated when it comes to on & off road capabilities. The Super Select 2 Transfer case can be changed on the fly between 2H & 4H at speeds of upto 80km (according to my owners manual for a Gen 3 Pajero), all you have to do is drop it into Neutral and change. You can run in 4H all day every day and a lot of Pajero drivers do exactly that especially in the wet or when towing. I fully agree about the tow capacity, I don't like the thought of towing more than my vehicles weight. Don't forget the Roof Load Rating either if you intend to put roof racks on. I know with the Normal Pajero the manufactures limit is 100kg dynamic and the person I spoke with at Mits told me to deduct 30% if going on "Unsealed" roads. I carry 3 Roof Racks, Basket, Awning, Small tool box, Shovel and solar panel on the roof of mine and sometimes my camp toilet to keep it out of the car. A swag or smallish tent would be fine but dont go over the top with large awnings, Roof Top Tents or loads of fuel and water.
You don't need to put it in neutral to change super select.
@@ln5747 I've always dropped in natural, pretty sure that what it says in the manual. Only between 2H & 4H, I always stop for LC modes.
@@OnCountryWithMick between 2h and 4h you just do it as you're driving, no need to do anything. It sorts itself out.
@@ln5747 this may be the case in newer or Auto vehicles. The manual for my Gen 3 states "The transfer shift lever can be operated while the vehicle is either moving or stationary. In case lever operation is necessary while vehicle is moving, place vehicle in the straight ahead position and depress the clutch pedal to the floor before operating the lever". That effectively puts it in neutral.
@@OnCountryWithMick yes auto vehicles, didn't realise you could get manual in current Pajero. Can't where I am.
Hi John, love the videos mate. I was wondering why no one has built a caravan with a dog trailer design? Is it to expensive to make it work. Cheers
Not sure what issues your talking with the Everest. My 3.2L 2017 has 140k with plenty of those towing a trailer for family camping trips all up and down the eastern seaboard. Have never had an issue nor have I ran into other Everest owners that have issues during my trips. I almost bought a Fortuna before I chose the Everest and it was a great choice.
We’ve had one since August 2020. It’s been back at Mitsubishi for 6 months in that time. Been a nightmare.
Oh, and my last car was a wildtrack. That's why I just bought a ps deluxe...and my 15 year old ns? 220k, still excellent.
Thought I'd put this here as apparently it's very common with pajero sport and after seeing your subaru cvt vid. Sports have an issue with delaminating headlights that mitsubishi will not cover. Dealers are forced to try and get new headlights via daytime running lamps yellowing instead. Which probably wouldn't happen if the headlights weren't delaminating too begin with.
My head hurts......time for another red :).................great info and thank you.
Not that the old Pajero has a much bigger payload but it did have more room. The new Pajero has better safety features which makes it a good idea. I just wish the new Pajero sport was a bit bigger inside.
775kg payload for a 2015 NX.
@@patricksproule6709 yes that’s another 100kg and I’m a Pajero owner but the old style has heaps more room.
@@Rockbottomsurf on my third. NM, NP and NX
Looked at a Pajero Sport back in 2018, and very much impressed untill the test drive. I had no room for my left leg. The centre console was just a pain. Not sure if that's still the case.
@@thomaskaufmann226 agreed, I went to the snow in one and it hunted through gear changes in the mountains too.
I know someone who regularly tows around 3.6 tons with a 2002 triton ute, about 120 meters 😄. He winches the boat back out as the vehicles is that knackered it only just rolls the boat on the flat
It would have been awesome if the spare was on the back door and the extra space underneath was filled with extra fuel capacity, and if the cockpit wasn't so claustrophobic. The centre console is too wide. The spare on the back door is preferred when you have to change a tyre in a mud puddle. Otherwise the car is excellent in my opinion.
I have family who own an older Pajaro Sport and its great. Its comfortable enough to be in as a passenger for long drives (3 hours or more) while also being capable enough to go to some very nice 4x4 only beaches.
I did 4x4 training in a Triton. In low range, the instructor could even start the car with the clutch engaged on an incline.
My MPS has just spat the dummy at 138000ks. Currently amassing my service history
I always wanted to comment but this channel had 🔒 the comment section 💀 my head was running 🏃♂️ nuts🤯 and i always to appreciate your videos atleast today i did
My suggestion is, if you want to tow and take the mob, ditch the Exceed and get the GLX. Save 80kg by losing the row three seats which are an awful design anyway - there's your recovery gear weight allowance.
Yep. That's what I did.
Yeah having the awd is certainly a major plus for Paj and Triton, that being said, it makes you wonder why Mitsubishi bother having the super select with the 2wd option? Better to just leave it with permanent awd with the centre diff lock switch, like most other proper 4wds.
Why would you bother using 2wd if you can be in awd? The extra fuel usage would be negligible, as you're still turning the front diff and drive shafts, the extra traction in awd mode is such an advantage, especially in an emergence situations, such as oil on the road ect.
The fuel saving isn't negligible though for someone who is doing a commute everyday, it makes a noticeable difference, certainly in a Triton
@@ln5747 Will have to agree to disagree. 👍
I"m a bit confused. In other videos you are saying that coil springs are not optimal for towing. I'm tossing up between a used Triton and Pajero for towing a caravan and anticipate carrying water etc
The Pajero Sport ticks a lot of boxes ... Super Select 4WD being a big one. But for me, it also presents with some deal-breakers.
1) Fuel capacity at 68 litres is just about at the bottom of the class. Loaded up and towing, your bush-bashing range is extremely limited.
2) Due to the PS having its safety sensors behind the grill, fitment of "essentials" such as spot lights is difficult. There was talk MMAL was hoping the mothership would change this.
3) The engine is small with relatively modest outputs within the class.
you can get extended range fuel tanks. you can fit traditional round spotties either side of the Mitsubishi logo (the radar cruise control is behind it). and for towing its only really comfortable with a van under 2 tonnes.
@@andys31337 Of course you can get an aftermarket fuel tank. But if the vehicle was built to purpose, you wouldn't have to.
Mitsubishi advise not to fit spotties and will not guarantee the operation of their safety systems. The hint is that OEM nudge and Bull Bars come without spotties mounting tabs.
As always, claimed towing capacity is theoretical only. In the real world, the tare weight of the tow vehicle is a much better guide.
Thanks.
Just love the T-shirt
Love the Triton.
I would buy a secon hand Prado every day of the week.
Good video John, I bought the Outlander (thru you and very happy with it). I didn’t have the funds for the Pajero, funny how kids drain the wallet, but have my eyes set on one in another couple of years
Love your comments at about the 12:10 mark (for the next 60 seconds). I am not found of hearing uneducated people spout off that the pandemic caused these supply chain issues. Economics is all about supply and demand and the pandemic caused changes in what commodities were in demand and what could be supplied. Companies that did not react appropriately to these changes because they sat on their duff are the companies who perpetuate this myth that root cause was the pandemic. These companies should have had skilled purchasers that were able to renegotiate supplier deals (albeit at slightly higher prices) so they did not get left out in the cold.
My FJ Cruiser gets plenty of hate for 'only' being able to tow 2.25 tonnes. However, it has a maximum payload of 577kg which is within 50kg a 200 Series LC.
Mate stick with the FJ even if it's only 200% better than the latest Mitsubishi...
I've never met a person who owns an FJ and hates it.
I had the choice of FJ Cruiser or a PB challenger 11 years ago. Challenger, (Now Pajero Sport in our market), was the clear choice of ability and extras. Kinda wish I bought the FJ, only for the resale. Very happy with the Mitsubishi challenger xls, and local dealer though. The vehicle has done proper rough stuff without complaint or break.
Hey John,
First time driving a Pajero today (3.2lt) & was browsing the old TH-cam for research and hoped you had a review on one...
Surprisingly not after being a Mits Fan boy 😂.
Either way I was impressed with comfort and how it drove as iv always driven very agricultural ute's it is a step up there.
I am currently in the used market looking for a honest priced 4x4 with a safety for the kids & reliability for towing.
Would you recommend looking at the Pajero 3.2lts or is there a reason you didn't give them any advertisement?
Much appreciated for any advice.
Regards,
Brodie.
I’ve seen several of your videos talking about the Super Select 2 Gear system in Mitsubishi where its 4H is unlike 4H in other 4x4s. Besides able to use 4H to go on high traction roads ( normal highways and bitumen roads ) I was told there is a speed limit ( not more than 100km per hr ) when travelling on 4H in a Mitsubishi. I’ve never heard you saying such so it came as a surprise if that is true?
The 100kph is the maximum speed you can change from 2H to 4H at, once in 4H the speed choice is yours.
No speed limit, no km travelled limit, it just turns it in to an AWD. It's bloody brilliant. I drive a current Triton and when it's a working week, we are unladen (bought for weekend camping). The 4H mode is great in a ute as they lose their arse end easily on a wet road. Not nearly as easily in AWD 4H.
Excellent advises thank you sir. Can you advise which shocks absorbers I can use for my new Mitsubishi Pajero Sport 2022 pls?… can’t find any over here in the Sultanate of Oman where I’m living. Many thanks.
We had the same choice 3 years ago. Ended up with the MU-X as the Pajero Sport has very limited space in the 3rd raw and also cramps the drivers legs vs the MU-X where you get much more room. We also wanted the better engine and transmission (both the most reliable on the market, with the latter being shared with Toyota). The “missing” AWD hasn’t been an issue. The only time AWD would be required as far as I can see is when you have an intermittently slipping high traction surface, or if you want to launch at the lights (not on the cards). If the road is genuinely slippery you can simply engage 4wd (as per the manual). I get it’s a nice feature. Just saying we haven’t missed it. We have also engaged 4wd a couple of time during very heavy rain. This was totally fine! Very happy with the decision. I still look forward to driving the MU-X. Love it.
Paj Sport’s 8 speed auto is also an Aisin ‘box used by the LC200/LX570
Yea not sure what you're on about the transmission... It's fitted to 3 vehicles... Lexus/Landcruiser/Pajero Sport. They've literally taken the transmission fitted to the most reliable 4x4 ever, genius really.
10k bought me 19 years old ml320 with 90k km ,year later not one problem, goes like a dream ,went 4wdriving few times ,what a beast...love it..
Not being rude but you'll spend another ten
@@dangerm3496 do your homework..
Cutaways are cool things where you show other stuff too
The volkswagen amarok that is hated here for some reason has had an 8 speed since day one, had the twin turbo 2.0 engine that everyone uses now even though it was apparently not powerful enough when it came out. And also runs full time all wheel drive.
Only now are other manufacturers copying all this stuff its nothing new.
And did I mention a standard rear diff lock.
Can you explain the difference between pig and dog trailers? You see dogs being used in the trucking industry but why don't we see any use of dog trailers with cars? Wouldn't it be more stable with less tow ball weight and higher payload capacities?
Because 99% of people couldn't reverse a dog trailer.
A pig trailer has the wheels in the centre and a dog trailer has the wheels at the ends of the trailer. They have a extra pivot point normally the front dolly spins on a ball race. I have seen a caravan with a fixed axle and the wheels turned with steering arms connected to the drawbar similar to to set up on a solid axle 4x4
hi mate, which model do you suggest in PS ? Exceed - GLS - EXCEED or GSR ? I am confused.
10:58....Missed it by that much, that's what SHE said! 😅 I hear that constantly from the Mrs during 'special cuddles' time. She mentions something about missing a 'spot'. Am I missing something? I don't know I am asleep before she finishes off whatever she's rambling on about.
10:30 > 10:50... 'inch forward' 'not break stuff' 'Crank shaft'
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You certainly crack me up mate, thanks for a great belly laugh.
In all seriousness now though I've really enjoyed your channel over the years when researching. You certainly are one of a kind. Keep the great Aussie humour going, we need to not lose our ability to laugh at ourselves in this WOKE eat WOKE world we unfortunately now live in.
Dear John. I truly appreciate and admire all your info and explanation , advises indeed. My question is should I go for the Pajero sport 2.4L diesel or the MU X 3L Diesel ?… your advise highly appreciated. I do carry standard four people in the vehicle, usually with lots of luggage. And I’m definitely planning to lift the car in this case which shock Absorbers Kit could you advise?… many thanks indeed…
John, can you do a video on how to drive on the beach?
Love the satire - so quirky! :)
When it comes to towing (and many other things) far too many people are disrespecting the simple physics. Many I'm sure, simply don't understand. Many adopt the "It won't happen to me" mantra.
Your shirt is wrong. The top of and bottom raptors cancel, leaving velocity.
Bloody rippa bonza review cobber! 🍻 👏
well we have a GLX 4000 on the clock , rides nice , but it has dash rattles and the dealer says they can't fix it
Out of curiosity, what’s the resale value like?
I am going to buy an Exceed this year. Talking to dealers is hard. Especially when some of them ask for stamp duty fee and delivery fee.
Last year I bought a 2020 Outlander Phev that was a demo with 2600km that only cost $41990. This is by far the best car I've owned including a 2018 Prado GXL & 2020 Hybrid Camry that was too small & not a good family car unlike the Phev. You hardly ever need fuel & lately have been charging for free at my work, local shopping centres & beach carparks which is a phenomenal feeling. I owned a 2014 Outlander Phev for 4 years & regretted selling it so now am stoked to have the newer model with slightly larger 2.4l engine & bigger 13.8kwh battery. Once the battery is dead I still have over 550km of range so is the best of both worlds & you can travel to regional areas without massive range anxiety. The instant EV torque is addictive, super quiet, quite fast & the regenerative paddles are unbelievable especially going down steep hills, approaching traffic lights or when someone locks up in-front of you. I have 20 solar panels on my roof & charge mostly in the arvo with a home charger I installed. We rarely get electricity bills - mostly get credits. My commute is 25km each way so usually get home with a few kms of EV range remaining. Once you drive a PHEV you realise just how good they are & don't want to go back to an ICE or hybrid car again.
I would like to ask a couple of Questions about The TEG system of towing hitches
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I have rated D shackles and I am wondering if there is any right position for the shackle?
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Pin taking the weight of the trailer or the body of the shackle taking the weight?
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and also Lynch pin verses "R" clip in the hitch pin and the pin that goes through the hitch that is attached to the tow vehicle
Sorry cut and pasted from facebook
Any update on the bluetti beast?
Well said.
Hi John great videos I would like.to know more about what cars you can drive in 4wd on hard pavement and what you can't drive. Any chance you could do a video on way in would improve alot of people's knowledge. PS looking at buying a new Ford ranger or raptor but I've the Ford customer care enema twice before, really don't need a third. WHAT dual cab ute do you suggest?
Towing: Germany used to recommend the towed load should not exceed 66% of the weight of the towing vehicle, loaded.
Great informative clip, I don't really understand how car manufacturers can get away with inflating the numbers of safety load limits just because its in a marketing "best interests" , like isn't anyone assessing these figures for validity?, I remember years ago when the Toyota fj cruiser was released & its basically a reinforced prado 150 with a slight shorter wheelbase & it shares alot of parts with the same numbers as that vehicle yet the secondary front axle load limit is capped for the cruiser at no ssm, & the prado is able to be taken much much higher yet the part numbers are the same. Not sure how that works, maybe to make that vehicle a less attractive option than the 150, due to having all the "good fruit" for alot less dollar anyway, how good is it to actually have good faith in advise these days, kudos JC...
There are "standards" and tests for load limits, however people often think that the "limit" is the "normal operating point" - and decide to operate at the limits constantly. Then they become increasing likely to "have a bad experience" - end up wrecked or disabled. - Barely getting by at a slow speed isn't the same as "spritely" fanging it at 110kph. jk.
Don't forget that On-Highway "limits" need to be reduced by up to 50% for offroad use (in reality) - note the rating of off-road military trucks vs their on-road rating.... (ie. a 5 ton truck can carry 10 tons onroad, 5 ton offroad, under "all conditions" - winches may be handy)
@@kadmow yea mate I get all that, I just don't understand how it can have a fudge factor based on marketing & not alot else.