When working with a drill that small, I wouldn't be surprised if the slightest movement of the drill subject is enough to snap it, so your first project for it should probably be some clamps for the drill table.
Basically what I was about to comment, I use drills this tiny to "clean" (or adjust) propane burner nozzles, and you have to clamp the part in a nice heavy vice (or you could attach the vice to the table I guess but that would be a nuisance to move around to adjust hole location, unless you got an XY table, but then the tiniest play in the table would allow movement snapping your drill bit), but table clamps could do the same job too, though probably slower.
@@babbagebrassworks4278 Tungsten carbide was invented in 1920. It's not exactly surprising that watchmakers used something different before its invention.
Every time I heard him say "concrete", I thought it was some engineering term I didn't undertand. Then he poured concrete. Great work mate. I subscribed when the subscribe note popped up 😄
Довольно частый и дешевый способ сделать раму станка жесткой. Работает прекрасно, особенно с маленькими токарными станками с алиэкспресс. Разве что понадобится безусадочный цемент вместо обычного если объём заливки значительный. Впрочем, мелкая гранитная крошка с эпоксидной смолой - вариант для больших мальчиков, она годится даже для создания станин серьёзных станков, таких как ЧПУ для высокоскоростной обработки алюминия..
when using a mold like this use a plasticizer concrete additive, it will make your mix turn to an almost water like consistency, you can find it at most hardware stores and its dirt cheep!
@@Borgedesigns sounds interesting the other advantage is that it reduces water needed by about 40%. another thing to check out is useing gypsum as a additive to make the working time longer. If your working with small areas in molds it may help to use a mortar repar mix as it tends to have smaller aggregate.
Been excited about this one for a while, unfortunately I am leaving for a camping trip and will back back monday, so no files until then. A couple of FAQs I see coming, -Why so big? Well it doesnt cost much more than the smallest I can see it being, and the larger size allows for more complex workholding solutions in the future. The weight contributes to vibration dampening and makes for an overall more pleasant experience. -What is a "sensitive" drill press? Technically all the presses I showed in this are sensitive drill presses, any press that isnt, for example, drive by a screw is a sensitive drill press, where you can feel the feedback of the drill bit. However the term is most commonly used for presses like this. -Parts list? When im back.
I wish I had the shop and tools needed to build this! I could have a whole shop if awesome handmade tools designed by you! If only I had the space. Maybe someday
Regarding some things you noted not knowing for sure (and more!): - Finishing PLA plastic favours scrapers over sanders. Scrapers can, at their simplest, be the edge of a razor blade. More suitable scrapers are either single-side bevels (like chisels) or a flat end without any bur. - Vaseline can damage plastics, but it depends on what type of plastic. Destroy is perhaps a stretch. - Joining parts together with a strong bond can be done by using a polymer like ABS or ASA, which can be solvent-welded. - Alternatively to the above, you can print parts with flanges that serve purely just an alignment purpose, perhaps with holes in the flange and pins/nibs in the base. That way, clamping them down is also much easier. - Even better yet, additionally to the flange, you can extend the barrel of the tube that holds the bearing by the thickness of the bottom, and cut/design a hole the bottom the same size in the right place. This causes printed parts to interlock more securely, doing away with a lot of clamping/holding.
instead of sanding, I recently learned about using a card scraper (from woodworking). I tried it and it`s FANTASTIC. and fast. not perfect for every application, but it`s worth trying. even leaves the colour , for the most part. you should look into it. it`s great to make certian that joined parts match well (no lips or overhangs)
very cool. heres an idea for an addon: a foot pedal that operates the table through a cable (think bike cable brake lever) to give you 2 hands for controlling the piece
The point of a sensitive drill press is the fact you feed it using one hand- that's how you can 'sense' the cut, and perform such a precise operation. Foot pedals are sometimes used to control drill on/off or speed, but not the table.
Next time you could put concrete into piping bag (the one used in icing cakes) to pour it bit more cleanly :P. Just make the hole much bigger for the flow and grit.
I absolutely love the use of different materials for infill. I'm surprised this isn't done more often. For example, PU foam (25lb) can be ultra-rigid, exceptionally strong, etc, but cost a pittance compared to a pure print. It also imbues the object with different mechanical properties (eg. buoyancy, water resistance), which is cool.. You may be interested in considering TPU for gears or other mechanical components. It has exceptional wear characteristics, and is reportedly very quiet in operation. And when printed as a solid part, is quite rigid. It's a hidden-gem of a material.
i`d say that the reason why the drill broke is your handholding of the part, rather than the speed... i use carbide micro drills in my baby emco fb2 mill and she goes up to 2k rpm... drilling through bearing balls and bearing races at that... `s all about proper clamping, spindle runout and rigidity of the system... the speed only affects how much material you are moving and how fast you can do so... Otherwise, a nice project for sure! I would have made a faux quill for the bearings, or a spindle housing of sorts, to put it thus... Just bore out a pipe and fit the bearings in that, add some outside geometry for interlocking with concrete and voila, a more secure means of bearing retention and also has the added benefit of insulating the bearings from moisture in the concrete, the seals and gaskets you used notwithstanding... Best regards! Steuss
This is amazing.. instant subscribe! I can’t help but feel a longer lever for raising the work might give slightly finer control - allowing you to translate a larger movement of the lever to a smaller movement of the work towards the drill bit. This should allow for smoother motion and for multiple smaller pushes of the material against the bit, which, together with tighter clamping closer to the hole, might help mitigate against bit breakage. Overall though amazing work. Creating amazing tools at unheard of costs, opening up work that just wouldn’t be achievable otherwise is exactly the kind of thing many dreamed 3d printing would make possible.
Fun thing to do with really tiny (0.3mm or smaller) drill bits: front panels for devices. Drill arrays of tiny holes in aluminum sheet for LEDs instead of of poking through the LED itself. The light will shine through the holes, but the holes themselves are comparatively invisible!
instead of vaseline you can use heat to return the color. in this case i would use the heat after filling with concrete. also scraping instead of sanding leaves a finer surface
Very well done. Those types of presses are pretty cool, interesting concept. That is a nice looking machine you made and functions well it seems. Cheers!
As others have said, I think the bit snapped from the work piece moving. You could clamp it in place, but for what this seems like it's meant to solve, I would say maybe make the table top have a textured surface instead. Something like a sheet of rubber would probably give enough traction without having to spend the time clamping and still hold up over time.
I made my own for watch making kind of stuff. Frame is 80/20, slides are higher end macro photography sides. Motor is brushless DC high speed spindle with an R8 collet system. X-Y table is made from an X-Y stage. If I need to rotate stuff to be machined, I use a rotation stage. I 3D (resin) printed adapters, etc. as necessary. Too bad you can't post images in these comments or else I'd show a picture.
Geez, now that I've seen that "This Old Tony" video about Over Center I'm just seeing them everywhere. Love all your designs Chris, I have my print of your Ball Vise sitting in my project room. I'm also building my own small drill press, but it's not nearly lovely as yours, and uses linear rails for transporting the business end up and down.
If you paint the 3d printed parts with resin you return the colour + add a hard outer coating that adds strength, uv resistance and scratch resistance.
I know Concrete is cheap and works, but epoxy granite is a much better solution for weighting and stabilizing machine tools. Basically mix sand and epoxy resin into a paste, and fill your parts.
@@Thorhianit’s slightly softer so can absorb high frequency vibrations, but concrete has a higher density which helps with the lower end and on something like this it doesn’t matter much anyways
@@Volt64bolt Makes sense, and yeah, concrete/mortar is cheap and easy in this case. Creating a good blend and getting decent epoxy is complicated and more expensive.
Nice build, but I can't help but wondered why you never print some kind of "funnel adapter" for your concert filled prints, would make filling them much easier and less messy.
This is actually a really good idea, might even be able to print it in vase mode(but with no bottom layer) and having a small lip in the main part it just seats down into! Uses very little plastic but buffers all the concrete into a larger aperture area that's much easier to fill up without spillage.
because you could just y'know, wipe them off when you are done pouring, No reason to waste plastic just to make a custom funnel. And even if you still prefer a funnel just using some cheap wood planks could do the job too
Great idea borrowing the old DIY lathe concrete trick, it's all about mass and rigidity. Black oxide the steel/stainless parts if shiny isn't your thing. By the way...this would absolutely be worth the time and effort in making pattern boards and sand casting the base, column, and housing parts in aluminum!
this video is literal art. from the minecraft music to the quality of the drill press. this video should be praised for. how much time did it take you to come up with this design for the drill press? is it your first prototype? your work is exquisite.
Such a useful piece of equipment. Weather drilling pcbs or doing precision metal work / tool making. This really opens up a lot of options for people without tons of cash to throw around. And gives you a lot of experience on top of it!
You'd be amazed what metal can be drilled on a regular drill press with cheap tools. The key is... Some type of submerged coolant bath or lubricant. Sounds complex but super easy..... Put a big Tupperware container on the drill press table, fill it with water based coolant, submerge your part, and drill away with the cheapest bits you can find. As long as your speeds and feeds are right... You can accomplish almost anything
Though the design is useful for larger drill sizes, does not have rigidity needed for smaller drills. A loadcell(located in 3 corners) with filtering on base should be able to provide a real time feedback, while retaining the needed rigidity for smaller drills. It will be limited by the runout of the spindle shaft, collet, apart from the squareness of the spindle mount wrt base. Just some 💭❤️👍
Great Idea I have never thought to fill the inside of some parts with concrete. Awesome. As @DSlyde said "This guy is David Gingery for the digital age" Couldnt agree more...
That looks fancy! The end result is impressive. 👍I use an old cheap drill press with a 40-year-old hand drill that has no speed adjustment to drill PCB holes with 0.4-1.0mm bits. 😅
Really cool project! Maybe some clamping mechanism would help for the really small bits. I think small hand movements would be enough to break the bit, so fixing it in place might be a good option.
Ffs bamboo Labs send this man some printers! He is Doing some really revolutionary stuff here. As someone whos owned and used precision tooling since I was a watchmakers apprentice in high school..... Its Really cool to see you push your capabilities to the limit. And test what can be done with a 3D printer in the home shop.
While watching your issues with the concrete being vibrated and flowing up through the top of the base, I was thinking that the riser ()drawing a blank on the name of this part that you filled with concrete after attaching to the base) should have been poured separately, with a piece of seran wrap or something to allow you to break down the mill for storage or transport. More importantly if you had done this, you could have set upa mating surface that you could do indexing with, rather than relying on the bolts being the only element that forces alignment. Again, this was mostly in the line of how to prevent the concrete in the base from being vibrated up through the top holes of the base. Another option might have been to set up channels to a separate riser path in the riser, and that 'filled' from the front or toe of the base, and you would then (hopefully) have a reasonable assurance that you had gotten most of the air out of the casting. Any way, nice job, and I wouldn't be surprised if you made an x/y slide circuit board holding attachment that you could use to repeat a series of holes for DIP packages on a circuit board, etc. Nice job.
Try wrapping your prints in a layer of fiber glass and epoxy if you can't fill them with concrete. It makes them super rigid. You have to rough up the surface of the print really good though if you want it to stick.
I really like the moving table -I've never seen that design used in a drill press before. (I still really like the aesthetics of the old drill press...It's shiny!)
the biggest issue your going to face here with your drill bits is that table, you need a way to massively reduce the force the table can exert, and the speed it is able to move at
when you don;t need to drill super deep holes,. look at center drills for thin diameter holes... the are cut on a super thick shaft, so they don;t flex.
Couple of things: threaded inserts are not stronger than tapped threads. They just make things look neat, and in case of having to constantly screw things open, they give very good longevity. But, if we are only talking about forces.. tap the threads straight to plastic. You get equal or better compared to threaded inserts. The best thing about tapped threads is that it is the same everytime, whereas the process of melting plastic to insert the insert.. is variable unless you have a dedicated machine for it. Threaded inserts should be avoided unless you need it to look good, or that you need to take it apart often. And this comes from someone who loves threaded inserts but i don't give a fuck about my feelings when it comes to design. What works the best, works the best and tapping thread to plastic is just the best way to do it. Do NOT use self tapping screws, or try to use the screw itself to tap itself. Those will push the hole wider and starts destroying layer adhesion around the hole. TAP IT! Not an option, it is mandatory to cut the threads. Then superglue: it has abysmal parameters on shear forces. It should NEVER be used to fill gaps if looking for strength. It also has almost no elasticity so it will crack. The thinner the layer of superglue is, the stronger it is. Epoxy is good glue to use when you need strength in all direction and rotations and you need it to fill space. WD-40 is not a lubricant. It is water replacement fluid. If you want a good generic oil that works nicely on a lot of things, including low RPM cutting: sewing machine oil.. Beautifully simple stuff, it is just basic petroleum based lubricant with nice viscosity made for parts that spin relatively fast. 500-5000RPM. It is also not a cutting fluid but it'll do for.. thousands of applications. Now, WD-40 is definitely better than nothing but.. get yourself sewing machine oil, one of those squeeze bottles will last years as a generic lubrication. Get real fluids and oils if possible but if you want just something that works on most things.. it is bloody brilliant stuff. I fought against it since it was my grandpas favorite oil (he was sewing machine repairer...) but.. after about 35 years of fighting against the idea.. i had to just give in. I have all the lithium, PTFE etc oils but.. i still grab the damn "old school stuff" all the time. Another old school stuff is basic vaseline, not for cutting but it is also one of those things that should be in your "essentials" toolbox along with your WD-40.... WD-40 is for water replacement, you use it to replace water... anything that is wet and needs to be lubricated: WD-40 followed by a proper lubricant. It makes so many things work, it is amazing stuff when used correctly.
I have been checking out your models on the repos, thank you so much for posting them! These videos are getting more frequent and they're really solid. Keep up the good work and you definitely earned that Subscribe I just hit! :) oh...and the like button also. Algos!
That concrete poured into the metal parts, I'm guessing will rust away in 1 to 5 years at most. I'd like to hear from someone that has tried this. My idea, fill with dry sand for stability. Maybe sand mixed with baking soda and superglue where you need plenty of strength. Use around plenty of ventilation.
The reason the 0.30 mm drill is breaking could be because of run-out in the bearings themselves or the collet not centering that precisely. Remember it doesn't take much to run-out the entire diameter of the drill with these very thin drills. There's an episode on This Old Tony where he breaks end mill after end mil in his "chinesium" collets until he realizes the problem 😅 Edit: -> th-cam.com/video/ncbJkz1zHOI/w-d-xo.html
You've done an awesome job on that drill press . Great design and work . Can't wait to see what you do next . Have a great day young man Warmest Regards Terry Lembke
Once the concrete is fully dry(weeks to months) it might have shrunk to the point of no longer really being connected to the print, pouring in diluted garage-floor epoxy would be a way to fix that and likely make the press(and lathe..) better than it was before the concrete shrank... also: Clea-rcoat is generally a better way to restore luster to prints and have the added bonus of sealing the print from moisture absorbtion(many are also UV protective, such as many/most oil-based polyurethanes)
instead the lever, you should try to modify it with a big handwheel ( lets say about 3,5" Diameter ) and couple it to the springloaded mechanism of the lever. that way your Push motion becomes way more controlable i believe ( this is just a assumption ! )
Try with epoxy granite next time. I use a high strength high flow epoxy mixed with Garnet sandblasting grit. It is very strong, very rigid, pours much easier than concrete and is quite a bit heavier.
I am repairing harps and this is exactly what I need. I need approx 0.01mm drill press precision. (I need to make holes from 1.4 to 1.9 in increments of 0.5mm)
Cool! I wouldn't expect Vaseline to have a major effect in the way you're applying it. I think that if you leave it on long term it might act as a plasticizer, leaving the surface softer. Also, applying it and raising the temperature above Vaseline's melting point of 37C might cause it to more rapidly diffuse into the PLA, again acting as a softener. This owes to Vaseline effectively being composed of about 1/4 mineral oil, which is lightweight hydrocarbons which can diffuse through the PLA matrix and reduce intermolecular forces, producing a more pliable material. Definitely won't destroy it! The biggest problems would be from directly applying mineral oil to PLA and then using the part for a sustained load, as the plasticizing effect would reduce toughness for that application.
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An entire concrete and 3d printed machine shop. This guy is David Gingery for the digital age, I swear.
Now THAT is a compliment :)
When working with a drill that small, I wouldn't be surprised if the slightest movement of the drill subject is enough to snap it, so your first project for it should probably be some clamps for the drill table.
Basically what I was about to comment, I use drills this tiny to "clean" (or adjust) propane burner nozzles, and you have to clamp the part in a nice heavy vice (or you could attach the vice to the table I guess but that would be a nuisance to move around to adjust hole location, unless you got an XY table, but then the tiniest play in the table would allow movement snapping your drill bit), but table clamps could do the same job too, though probably slower.
Yep, I've learned this using hand drills that tiny. If you put any side force on it at all, it's going to snap.
If you use carbide drill bit but watchmakers have use steel wire spade bits for hundreds of years
@@babbagebrassworks4278 Tungsten carbide was invented in 1920. It's not exactly surprising that watchmakers used something different before its invention.
@@Studio23Media My small drill bits have hexagon end so I can use my screwdriver as a hand drill.
Every time I heard him say "concrete", I thought it was some engineering term I didn't undertand. Then he poured concrete.
Great work mate. I subscribed when the subscribe note popped up 😄
Довольно частый и дешевый способ сделать раму станка жесткой. Работает прекрасно, особенно с маленькими токарными станками с алиэкспресс. Разве что понадобится безусадочный цемент вместо обычного если объём заливки значительный. Впрочем, мелкая гранитная крошка с эпоксидной смолой - вариант для больших мальчиков, она годится даже для создания станин серьёзных станков, таких как ЧПУ для высокоскоростной обработки алюминия..
That looks like something old Tony would like to watch
He said a couple of minutes. Before tony posts a video
when using a mold like this use a plasticizer concrete additive, it will make your mix turn to an almost water like consistency, you can find it at most hardware stores and its dirt cheep!
ill give that a try, im working on a video testing all sorts of variables for using concrete in prints.
@@Borgedesigns sounds interesting the other advantage is that it reduces water needed by about 40%. another thing to check out is useing gypsum as a additive to make the working time longer. If your working with small areas in molds it may help to use a mortar repar mix as it tends to have smaller aggregate.
That would be new and valuable. Subb'ed for it! Great work, man.@@Borgedesigns
can i just say how much i appreciate the Minecraft soundtrack. the perfect background to your content
Love it !
gluing 4 linear bearings without any alignment jigs to keep them parallel worked surprisingly well
Been excited about this one for a while, unfortunately I am leaving for a camping trip and will back back monday, so no files until then.
A couple of FAQs I see coming,
-Why so big? Well it doesnt cost much more than the smallest I can see it being, and the larger size allows for more complex workholding solutions in the future. The weight contributes to vibration dampening and makes for an overall more pleasant experience.
-What is a "sensitive" drill press? Technically all the presses I showed in this are sensitive drill presses, any press that isnt, for example, drive by a screw is a sensitive drill press, where you can feel the feedback of the drill bit. However the term is most commonly used for presses like this.
-Parts list? When im back.
Looks exciting - Have a great camping trip and an excellent weekend!
Super build and video. Have a great trip!
Give us a holler when you’ve put the parts list on please..
I wish I had the shop and tools needed to build this! I could have a whole shop if awesome handmade tools designed by you! If only I had the space.
Maybe someday
Any files yet?
Regarding some things you noted not knowing for sure (and more!):
- Finishing PLA plastic favours scrapers over sanders. Scrapers can, at their simplest, be the edge of a razor blade. More suitable scrapers are either single-side bevels (like chisels) or a flat end without any bur.
- Vaseline can damage plastics, but it depends on what type of plastic. Destroy is perhaps a stretch.
- Joining parts together with a strong bond can be done by using a polymer like ABS or ASA, which can be solvent-welded.
- Alternatively to the above, you can print parts with flanges that serve purely just an alignment purpose, perhaps with holes in the flange and pins/nibs in the base. That way, clamping them down is also much easier.
- Even better yet, additionally to the flange, you can extend the barrel of the tube that holds the bearing by the thickness of the bottom, and cut/design a hole the bottom the same size in the right place. This causes printed parts to interlock more securely, doing away with a lot of clamping/holding.
Very nice idea with the concrete filled 3D print.
If you are sanding ABS you can use a heatgun to restore the color back hope that helps
I sometimes use a lighter or low-intensity butane torch to do the same with PLA for this purpose, carefully of course.
@@TheLex1972 dichloroethane for pla
Yet again another great use of 3D printing. We shared this video on our homemade tool forum last week 😎
instead of sanding, I recently learned about using a card scraper (from woodworking). I tried it and it`s FANTASTIC. and fast. not perfect for every application, but it`s worth trying. even leaves the colour , for the most part. you should look into it. it`s great to make certian that joined parts match well (no lips or overhangs)
very cool. heres an idea for an addon: a foot pedal that operates the table through a cable (think bike cable brake lever) to give you 2 hands for controlling the piece
Also gives you a hole through your hand. Bad idea and dangerous
@@noahprussia7622huh, you already have one hand to control it
Let's not tell people to do things that are safety violations
The point of a sensitive drill press is the fact you feed it using one hand- that's how you can 'sense' the cut, and perform such a precise operation. Foot pedals are sometimes used to control drill on/off or speed, but not the table.
@@noahprussia7622 it’s not though lol
Clear coating a sanded part also brings back color
Next time you could put concrete into piping bag (the one used in icing cakes) to pour it bit more cleanly :P. Just make the hole much bigger for the flow and grit.
I absolutely love the use of different materials for infill. I'm surprised this isn't done more often. For example, PU foam (25lb) can be ultra-rigid, exceptionally strong, etc, but cost a pittance compared to a pure print. It also imbues the object with different mechanical properties (eg. buoyancy, water resistance), which is cool..
You may be interested in considering TPU for gears or other mechanical components. It has exceptional wear characteristics, and is reportedly very quiet in operation. And when printed as a solid part, is quite rigid. It's a hidden-gem of a material.
Such a good idea i hadn't thought of before even though its so obvious and can be easily adapted from the design stage when 3dprinting.
@@MatchaMakesThings There are so many of these interesting ideas out there. It's such a wonderful community to be a part of!
People think of tpu as the squishy filament but you can’t print it pretty rigid and it’s tough
Its cheaper and stronger, im shocked ive never seen it used in printed CNC machines or similar uses.
@@Borgedesigns Thanks you your video, there's a chance it will be used more often!
i`d say that the reason why the drill broke is your handholding of the part, rather than the speed... i use carbide micro drills in my baby emco fb2 mill and she goes up to 2k rpm... drilling through bearing balls and bearing races at that... `s all about proper clamping, spindle runout and rigidity of the system... the speed only affects how much material you are moving and how fast you can do so...
Otherwise, a nice project for sure! I would have made a faux quill for the bearings, or a spindle housing of sorts, to put it thus... Just bore out a pipe and fit the bearings in that, add some outside geometry for interlocking with concrete and voila, a more secure means of bearing retention and also has the added benefit of insulating the bearings from moisture in the concrete, the seals and gaskets you used notwithstanding...
Best regards!
Steuss
Funny how 3D Printing brings back the good old concret tools like after WW2 in Germany. xD
This is amazing.. instant subscribe! I can’t help but feel a longer lever for raising the work might give slightly finer control - allowing you to translate a larger movement of the lever to a smaller movement of the work towards the drill bit. This should allow for smoother motion and for multiple smaller pushes of the material against the bit, which, together with tighter clamping closer to the hole, might help mitigate against bit breakage.
Overall though amazing work. Creating amazing tools at unheard of costs, opening up work that just wouldn’t be achievable otherwise is exactly the kind of thing many dreamed 3d printing would make possible.
1:15 I wasn't focusing on what you were saying because of the nostalgic music playing in the background. 😂
Fun thing to do with really tiny (0.3mm or smaller) drill bits: front panels for devices. Drill arrays of tiny holes in aluminum sheet for LEDs instead of of poking through the LED itself. The light will shine through the holes, but the holes themselves are comparatively invisible!
Super cool build! I'd love to see more of your design process
A few people have asked so ill probably do an overview video at some point
You could use a zip lock bag and cut away one of the corner to make a pipette. That would make pouring your concrete a lot easier!
instead of vaseline you can use heat to return the color. in this case i would use the heat after filling with concrete. also scraping instead of sanding leaves a finer surface
Very well done. Those types of presses are pretty cool, interesting concept. That is a nice looking machine you made and functions well it seems. Cheers!
Printing up an Open-Ball right as he drops another 3Dprinted tool episode. Dang, you're the KING! Keep up the great work!
As others have said, I think the bit snapped from the work piece moving. You could clamp it in place, but for what this seems like it's meant to solve, I would say maybe make the table top have a textured surface instead. Something like a sheet of rubber would probably give enough traction without having to spend the time clamping and still hold up over time.
That is a very nice design Chris, and well thought out, and the modularity of the design is a nice touch.
I came here by accident, yet I stayed on purpose. Very cool build, the drill press looks happy to be at your workshop.
I made my own for watch making kind of stuff. Frame is 80/20, slides are higher end macro photography sides. Motor is brushless DC high speed spindle with an R8 collet system. X-Y table is made from an X-Y stage. If I need to rotate stuff to be machined, I use a rotation stage. I 3D (resin) printed adapters, etc. as necessary. Too bad you can't post images in these comments or else I'd show a picture.
If you could put up a shortened link url or something that would be awesome. I’m sure a lot of people would love to see it.
@@antonc81 I'll see what I can do
would be interesting to see for sure
Geez, now that I've seen that "This Old Tony" video about Over Center I'm just seeing them everywhere. Love all your designs Chris, I have my print of your Ball Vise sitting in my project room. I'm also building my own small drill press, but it's not nearly lovely as yours, and uses linear rails for transporting the business end up and down.
If you paint the 3d printed parts with resin you return the colour + add a hard outer coating that adds strength, uv resistance and scratch resistance.
I shocked at how well that spindle appears to work. Fantastic project. Super practical construction method!
I know Concrete is cheap and works, but epoxy granite is a much better solution for weighting and stabilizing machine tools.
Basically mix sand and epoxy resin into a paste, and fill your parts.
What makes it better?
@@RomainQ to my limited knowledge concrete will turn porous after setting hence less dense then epoxy sand.
@@ipodtouchiscoollol Well made epoxy granite is also superior in vibration damping, at least based on what I've read.
@@Thorhianit’s slightly softer so can absorb high frequency vibrations, but concrete has a higher density which helps with the lower end and on something like this it doesn’t matter much anyways
@@Volt64bolt Makes sense, and yeah, concrete/mortar is cheap and easy in this case. Creating a good blend and getting decent epoxy is complicated and more expensive.
Nice build, but I can't help but wondered why you never print some kind of "funnel adapter" for your concert filled prints, would make filling them much easier and less messy.
This is actually a really good idea, might even be able to print it in vase mode(but with no bottom layer) and having a small lip in the main part it just seats down into! Uses very little plastic but buffers all the concrete into a larger aperture area that's much easier to fill up without spillage.
because you could just y'know, wipe them off when you are done pouring, No reason to waste plastic just to make a custom funnel. And even if you still prefer a funnel just using some cheap wood planks could do the job too
ive tried funnels, I just find them to slow. But im working on a video testing concrete mixes so ill experiment more in that.
Great idea borrowing the old DIY lathe concrete trick, it's all about mass and rigidity. Black oxide the steel/stainless parts if shiny isn't your thing. By the way...this would absolutely be worth the time and effort in making pattern boards and sand casting the base, column, and housing parts in aluminum!
this video is literal art. from the minecraft music to the quality of the drill press. this video should be praised for. how much time did it take you to come up with this design for the drill press? is it your first prototype? your work is exquisite.
I spent about a week on the CAD and printing, but that being said id been thinking about the idea and its mechanisms for far longer.
Spray paint is great for when you can't fine the hardware you need in the right color
I find not caring works best for me.
I have a need for micro sized drill bits a lot actually, so this is like PERFECT. Good job man, love the lever raise system.
2:50 smiley face. 3:05 smiley face with nose! Other than that profound observation, nice job!
Vaseline is petrol based so it will dissolve the softeners in abs and vinyl based plastics making them very brittle, not sure about pla though.
Very nice of you to share the files of your hard work. Kudos
Such a useful piece of equipment. Weather drilling pcbs or doing precision metal work / tool making. This really opens up a lot of options for people without tons of cash to throw around. And gives you a lot of experience on top of it!
You'd be amazed what metal can be drilled on a regular drill press with cheap tools. The key is... Some type of submerged coolant bath or lubricant.
Sounds complex but super easy..... Put a big Tupperware container on the drill press table, fill it with water based coolant, submerge your part, and drill away with the cheapest bits you can find.
As long as your speeds and feeds are right... You can accomplish almost anything
Out of curiosity how do you hold down the piece while its in there?
Though the design is useful for larger drill sizes, does not have rigidity needed for smaller drills.
A loadcell(located in 3 corners) with filtering on base should be able to provide a real time feedback, while retaining the needed rigidity for smaller drills.
It will be limited by the runout of the spindle shaft, collet, apart from the squareness of the spindle mount wrt base. Just some 💭❤️👍
That's really cool.
Nice work!
Love the lifting table.
Love your stuff, using concrete to make stuff like this is crazy cool, keep doing what you're doing!
this is one of the best video's I've seen in a while. Instant sub
Nice small drill press, I really like the idea of using concrete in 3D prints to make them more sturdy. Keep it up!!
Pretty cool. It looks like a finished product with the smooth lines on the outside. Definitely not a boxy prototype. Nice work. I bet it would sell.
This channel has inspired me to actually start working on the tools and accessories for my dream workshop!
Aww it looks so cute :)
I would add counterweight for the table to make the operation more gentle. Other than that nice job for the cost
The table needs to raise very slowly and smoothly to prevent breaking tiny drills, so a very low ratio is needed such as a screw or worm gear.
This is giving me ideas to make my own, been wondering how to make it rigid, concrete seems simple enough.
One of my favourite Channels at the moment, thanks for inspiring me
That “subscribe” label sneaked in so well 😂
It cracked me up for some mysterious reason 🤣🤣
Great Idea I have never thought to fill the inside of some parts with concrete. Awesome. As @DSlyde said "This guy is David Gingery for the digital age" Couldnt agree more...
That looks fancy! The end result is impressive. 👍I use an old cheap drill press with a 40-year-old hand drill that has no speed adjustment to drill PCB holes with 0.4-1.0mm bits. 😅
I love the drill press. Wonderful music choice as well.
Really cool project!
Maybe some clamping mechanism would help for the really small bits. I think small hand movements would be enough to break the bit, so fixing it in place might be a good option.
Im working on some better workholding options :)
Ffs bamboo Labs send this man some printers! He is Doing some really revolutionary stuff here.
As someone whos owned and used precision tooling since I was a watchmakers apprentice in high school..... Its Really cool to see you push your capabilities to the limit. And test what can be done with a 3D printer in the home shop.
They already have aha, I should show them on camera a bit more aye
Nice work... filling with concrete was amazing!
First time on your channel, and it is a pleasure. Calm, relaxing, very comprehensive. Thanks for the journey :)
Super cool, keep up the amazing projects ❤
Very cool! And love the music. Brings back a lot of memories 😂
While watching your issues with the concrete being vibrated and flowing up through the top of the base, I was thinking that the riser ()drawing a blank on the name of this part that you filled with concrete after attaching to the base) should have been poured separately, with a piece of seran wrap or something to allow you to break down the mill for storage or transport. More importantly if you had done this, you could have set upa mating surface that you could do indexing with, rather than relying on the bolts being the only element that forces alignment.
Again, this was mostly in the line of how to prevent the concrete in the base from being vibrated up through the top holes of the base. Another option might have been to set up channels to a separate riser path in the riser, and that 'filled' from the front or toe of the base, and you would then (hopefully) have a reasonable assurance that you had gotten most of the air out of the casting.
Any way, nice job, and I wouldn't be surprised if you made an x/y slide circuit board holding attachment that you could use to repeat a series of holes for DIP packages on a circuit board, etc. Nice job.
Ure nuts!! Nice job!
Try wrapping your prints in a layer of fiber glass and epoxy if you can't fill them with concrete. It makes them super rigid. You have to rough up the surface of the print really good though if you want it to stick.
This sounds like a fun build.
Did you stomach sink when you first tried to put the table on and it was to tall? Lol i hate scares like that in my projects
A little yeah ahah, the original table was designed to fit but I didnt consider that when I made it taller 3 times...
I really like the moving table -I've never seen that design used in a drill press before.
(I still really like the aesthetics of the old drill press...It's shiny!)
the biggest issue your going to face here with your drill bits is that table, you need a way to massively reduce the force the table can exert, and the speed it is able to move at
I would recommend putting a longer lever on the lifting mechanism to increase the lifting accuracy. Otherwise, great project.
when you don;t need to drill super deep holes,. look at center drills for thin diameter holes... the are cut on a super thick shaft, so they don;t flex.
Nicely done but what a pain! Some good ideas there and I think I'll use some in my next design.. Thanks! 🙂
would love to see that project list of yours, great video, inspiration hit hard
Couple of things: threaded inserts are not stronger than tapped threads. They just make things look neat, and in case of having to constantly screw things open, they give very good longevity. But, if we are only talking about forces.. tap the threads straight to plastic. You get equal or better compared to threaded inserts. The best thing about tapped threads is that it is the same everytime, whereas the process of melting plastic to insert the insert.. is variable unless you have a dedicated machine for it. Threaded inserts should be avoided unless you need it to look good, or that you need to take it apart often. And this comes from someone who loves threaded inserts but i don't give a fuck about my feelings when it comes to design. What works the best, works the best and tapping thread to plastic is just the best way to do it. Do NOT use self tapping screws, or try to use the screw itself to tap itself. Those will push the hole wider and starts destroying layer adhesion around the hole. TAP IT! Not an option, it is mandatory to cut the threads.
Then superglue: it has abysmal parameters on shear forces. It should NEVER be used to fill gaps if looking for strength. It also has almost no elasticity so it will crack. The thinner the layer of superglue is, the stronger it is. Epoxy is good glue to use when you need strength in all direction and rotations and you need it to fill space.
WD-40 is not a lubricant. It is water replacement fluid. If you want a good generic oil that works nicely on a lot of things, including low RPM cutting: sewing machine oil.. Beautifully simple stuff, it is just basic petroleum based lubricant with nice viscosity made for parts that spin relatively fast. 500-5000RPM. It is also not a cutting fluid but it'll do for.. thousands of applications. Now, WD-40 is definitely better than nothing but.. get yourself sewing machine oil, one of those squeeze bottles will last years as a generic lubrication. Get real fluids and oils if possible but if you want just something that works on most things.. it is bloody brilliant stuff. I fought against it since it was my grandpas favorite oil (he was sewing machine repairer...) but.. after about 35 years of fighting against the idea.. i had to just give in. I have all the lithium, PTFE etc oils but.. i still grab the damn "old school stuff" all the time. Another old school stuff is basic vaseline, not for cutting but it is also one of those things that should be in your "essentials" toolbox along with your WD-40.... WD-40 is for water replacement, you use it to replace water... anything that is wet and needs to be lubricated: WD-40 followed by a proper lubricant. It makes so many things work, it is amazing stuff when used correctly.
I have been checking out your models on the repos, thank you so much for posting them! These videos are getting more frequent and they're really solid. Keep up the good work and you definitely earned that Subscribe I just hit! :) oh...and the like button also. Algos!
That concrete poured into the metal parts, I'm guessing will rust away in 1 to 5 years at most. I'd like to hear from someone that has tried this. My idea, fill with dry sand for stability. Maybe sand mixed with baking soda and superglue where you need plenty of strength. Use around plenty of ventilation.
I need friends who build random fascinating projects
The reason the 0.30 mm drill is breaking could be because of run-out in the bearings themselves or the collet not centering that precisely.
Remember it doesn't take much to run-out the entire diameter of the drill with these very thin drills. There's an episode on This Old Tony where he breaks end mill after end mil in his "chinesium" collets until he realizes the problem 😅
Edit: -> th-cam.com/video/ncbJkz1zHOI/w-d-xo.html
If you add a little bit of dish soap to the mix it makes it easier to pour.
You've done an awesome job on that drill press . Great design and work . Can't wait to see what you do next . Have a great day young man
Warmest Regards
Terry Lembke
Very clever and well executed…Nice Job.
Once the concrete is fully dry(weeks to months) it might have shrunk to the point of no longer really being connected to the print, pouring in diluted garage-floor epoxy would be a way to fix that and likely make the press(and lathe..) better than it was before the concrete shrank...
also: Clea-rcoat is generally a better way to restore luster to prints and have the added bonus of sealing the print from moisture absorbtion(many are also UV protective, such as many/most oil-based polyurethanes)
Wow, you really have my respect. It's an awesome build❗️
I like it, and wonder if with a few modifications to the design maybe a mini milling machine could be made based on this design!
instead the lever, you should try to modify it with a big handwheel ( lets say about 3,5" Diameter ) and couple it to the springloaded mechanism of the lever. that way your Push motion becomes way more controlable i believe ( this is just a assumption ! )
Well done!
And… now make a mill!!
Nice job mate.
Great job dude. That sliding lever is pretty cool too. Keep up the great work!
Could you please post a link for the spindle you used?
Try with epoxy granite next time.
I use a high strength high flow epoxy mixed with Garnet sandblasting grit. It is very strong, very rigid, pours much easier than concrete and is quite a bit heavier.
Okay, this is beautiful.
I am repairing harps and this is exactly what I need. I need approx 0.01mm drill press precision. (I need to make holes from 1.4 to 1.9 in increments of 0.5mm)
looks like a coffee maschine
Cool! I wouldn't expect Vaseline to have a major effect in the way you're applying it. I think that if you leave it on long term it might act as a plasticizer, leaving the surface softer. Also, applying it and raising the temperature above Vaseline's melting point of 37C might cause it to more rapidly diffuse into the PLA, again acting as a softener. This owes to Vaseline effectively being composed of about 1/4 mineral oil, which is lightweight hydrocarbons which can diffuse through the PLA matrix and reduce intermolecular forces, producing a more pliable material. Definitely won't destroy it!
The biggest problems would be from directly applying mineral oil to PLA and then using the part for a sustained load, as the plasticizing effect would reduce toughness for that application.
You didn't break the bit because of the rpms, you broke the bit because you were holding the material of your hands
this is slick