Funny thing personal taste. I really like the new Ranger and I decided today that I'm getting one. In fact it is pretty much the only Tudor in the catalogue I'd be interested in. I hear the chorus of griping from so many sides. Yeah well... It feels like I've been doing this watch collecting thing for too long. Whenever I allow myself to be influenced by the crowd, or to get carried along with hype, I've _nearly always_ ended up selling the watch sooner or later. That includes Rolex this that and the other. The ones that stay with you are the ones that you just simply like - even if they are completely unloved or simply undiscussed by the trendy crowd. If you buy something for/because of others you'll end up hating it. The fact that there may not be the huge hype-driven waiting lists is also utterly beautiful. I mean, a _waiting list_ for a _damned wrist watch?_ That alone is bat-sh+t crazy, isn't it?? As for those people out there who think the Ranger is boring....uhm...it's a _field watch_ guys! It is meant to be plain, functional and utilitarian. If people think such a watch should be fancy or funky or (worse) faux-expensive...pff...well...each to his own, I guess. But for me that would be unspeakably crass and vulgar at this price point.
Nice to see a guy who knows himself. I disagree with everything the haters are saying. I like you have had rolex models come and go but the simplicity of a black dial OP and the practicality and lack of “look at me” is what has drawn me to the ranger. Tudor have nailed it at least for me with the case size and so called “boring” dial. Nothing wrong with being plain and simple
Good choice, ranger is a beauty i like it too, i don't know why everyone hates it nowadays every one can't live without comparing a watch to the rolex. Every watch has it own beauty. If they want the ranger to be like explorer then why don't they just buy a rolex? Right
Great comment. Absolutely true and I’m guilty of what you said. I bought a moser because of the huge online hype about the watches. Convinced myself it was amazing. Hardly wore it, just wasn’t me far too ostentatious. Sold it after a while and got a Glashütte seventies panorama date. No one knows it, yet the design and quality suited me perfectly. One of the best sports steel integrated bracelet watches out there and totally unknown. And I love it. I wanted an everyday tool watch and after LOTS of researching it was between this, the muhle glashutte 29er and the Sinn 556ib. The size and design for me is perfect but went for the Sinn because the finishing just not great on the Tudor and the Sinn is even more versatile.
I absolutely love it ..underwhelmed by the renders but when I put it on my wrist I loved it . The value is off the scale . I’m 6”3 so the side is perfection to . I have a collection that is Rolex and omega sports heavy and there’s quite a bit of shine .. personally love the dial no nonsense or faff , this is the watch that will just look better with scratches a bumps . Depends what you want , what your collection looks like . I wanted the no nonsense fully brushed case and simple dial so they have nailed it like the painted markers etc , looks true to the original ..
Great review…I was window shopping yesterday and had zero intention of buying a watch…I saw the store had the Ranger in stock and had wanted to see one in person…did not like it on the bracelet but loved it on the green strap…I’d been looking for a field watch to balance out my Rolex thunderbird with fluted bezel and jubilee bracelet…this was the perfect solution…boring in the steel bracelet but looks awesome on diff straps…I was window shopping with no intention to buy, but now the Ranger sits on my nightstand and must say I’m quite happy…others might not like it, so it’s a good thing I bought it for my own enjoyment and not everyone else’s…
I'm one of the fans of the 39mm sized Explorer, so I appreciate you mentioning that we exist. I am currently wearing my 39.5mm SPB089 Alpinist, and just love that size for a field watch (38-40 are all good). I find the Black Bay 36 to be too small on wrist, while the Black Bay 41 (non-diver) is a bit big for my taste. I concur with the dial criticism. While faithful to the original, I would have loved to see a bit of modernity thrown in such as the use of ceramic lume for all the markings/numerals and slightly higher end looking hands. You nailed it with the feel that any homage brand could have made it, and it brings to mind the San Martin SN020-G. While I think that's a cool watch, it similarly has lume that looks a bit off in colour (there is a white dial version available now), and at least it is a crazy amount cheaper while being a quality 39mm 1016 homage. T-fit clasp and movement aside, I can't help but think something like the Sinn 556 A has a better overall look, and at 38.5mm is a great size too. A polished bezel on the Ranger might have also spiced things up a bit while still looking like a tool watch. I definitely cannot complain about the price, as that is a solid value. I'd easily pay a little more to have some of the upgrades mentioned though. It is too bad Tudor did not release a 36mm version as well. After all, it is not like we are expected to go to a store and somehow all fit into a Medium sized t-shirt.
Well said! We seem to be on the same wavelength. The Ranger alternative that springs to my mind is the Christopher Ward Sandhurst. 38mm, chronometer movement, and 150m WR, along with a more interesting dial. Ticks virtually all the same boxes at a fraction of the price.
I really like the Ranger. Don’t mind the plain look as I have enough other watches with more going on on the dial. So for me I think Tudor nailed it. Good review though.
This was easily one of the most “balanced” reviews I’ve seen, taking into consideration all sides of the discussion. Well done!!! As someone with a generous 8” wrist I find 39mm about as small as I care to go, so I’m very much looking forward to seeing this watch in person and trying it on. Cheers!
Lol, everyone is dumping on this watch. Yeah, it's a in house movement with tudor declaring accuracy that surpasses COSC, yeah it has 70 hours power reserve, yeah it's from an established manufacturer with a proud heritage and the watch itself has a proud heritage. Yeah, it comes dirty cheap at less than 3000 bucks with a new and improved top grade bracelet. Yes, at this price point it's one of the cheapest in house movement watch on the market and still doesn't cheap on anything offering sapphire glass, antimagnetic, 100 meters resistance. etc etc. Yeah yeah, it's kinda impressive the combo top producer, lowest price, top quality. But you know, that historically accurate dial... it's boring I guess. Yeah. You, you do what you want. I ordered mine.
Some times I think the parent brand of Rolex holds back what we all know we want in a watch. That is, that Tudor puts a good foot forward, but perhaps not the best foot. After all, they need to give customers a reason to stretch a little harder for all that is offered in Rolex. I think many would agree that applied indices whether it be BB Pro or metal surrounds, a bit more dial text, and something closer to 36mm, would be a crowd pleaser. I am really getting tired of faux patina.
First off; I have a 8 1/4” wrist so sub 40mm watches have scared me away. I was surprised with how much I love this watch. My AD gave me a shout and gave me first crank at one. I picked it up and was a little underwhelmed… then I wore it, and kept wearing it, and kept wearing it. It is such a wonderful wearing tool-tastic watch. It’s everything I’ve heard about the Explorer for years; underwhelming then you wear it and it just becomes your favorite watch. I have a pretty good watch illness and this watch has become my go to daily watch. I highly recommend it
I 1000% agree. The Ranger has an in house movement and the T-Fit clasp, everything else about the BB36 is better. Finishing, size, overall look, dial, hands, etc. I’d wait for Tudor to give the in house movement and clasp to the BB36 hopefully later this year. That would make the BB36, which already is, the best Explorer alternative.
Why do people think the BB36 call it an explorer alternative? It has circle markers and doesn’t remind me of a field watch whatsoever. In fact I much prefer the BB36 over the ranger and the explorer. I see it as it’s own thing.
@@drkesrf finishing wise, dial markers being stark white applied indices and versatility of the BB36 is much closer to the Explorer than the Ranger. I agree that the dial design makes it look a bit different, but the modern Explorer is more of an everyday versatile piece than a field watch at this point. I think the BB36 has that vibe as well.
@@drkesrf I agree, it irks me that every watch seemingly has to be whittled down to which Rolex it is the best alternative to, whether it’s Tudor, Omega, Seiko or whoever.
I totally agree with you about the dial. I tried it on and felt it looked boring with the printing being so flat. It reminded me of the Q Timex printed dial. A little bit of volume in the printing or like you say solid blocks of lume would make it much more interesting.
@@12and60 tell that to IWC. They do it to the tune of substantially more money, but without an in-house movement. They may or may not execute what they do at a higher level, but relative to the money, Tudor is doing just fine here. The Rolex Explorer here is far more money and it’s been allowed to be refined over the years. This Ranger, it’s been brought back from the dead. It’s true to form ASAT, it simply is, you get what it offers or move on, it’s just that simple. If the design speaks to you- it’s a good value with respect to its specs. That’s all she wrote. This watch deserves to be in the Tudor catalogue. It’s true to the aesthetic, it’s a lot of watch in a perfect size. There’s nothing stopping Tudor from expanding on this line. They could keep this version and expand on it. The model for this in my mind would be Omega. look at their limited editions of the trilogy series alongside more modern offerings of the same watch. They pair well together. The Railmaster is a good example. Tudor checked a lot of boxes with this one.I’ve got no issue with fauxtina, the color they chose, wouldn’t have been my first choice. That said, for anyone interested in buying g and wearing this watch- it’s meant to be a daily wear and I’m guessing it’s something you’d grow more fond of over time. It would age well.
Just a little thought would have led Tudor to white and not dull yellow dial indices and hands. The dial is out of balance top to bottom, another line of text at the bottom would help. Yes, homage watches will be out soon for $100 - $500US and will come within $100US in real quality vs market quality of this simple watch design. That's the current problem in the watch world, homage and microbrands are getting very close in quality at pennies on the dollar.
Good review with plenty of unbiased valid points, I had the opposite experience as I had no interest in the ranger on first seeing all the press releases, still one day I found myself in an AD and asked to see one while I was there.......I loved it and think it looks great on the wrist ! I enjoy how subjective this hobby/disease is lol
The overly faux patina and bland printed dial are my biggest disappointments too. Applied markers would better indicate its price point and better match the Explorer's tool-like yet innate quality.
I feel very much the same way. Without applied indices or some other measure of quality craftsmanship I couldn't bring myself to lay down that much cash on a printed dial. I've been wanting a smaller Ranger for quite a while, so I'm quite surprised how underwhelmed I am by it.
having tried both the BB36 and the Ranger, in my opinion, the alternative of the current Explorer is the BB36. The Ranger reminds me more of the current Omega Railmaster
San Martin uses applied markers on their Explorer homage but Tudor couldn’t bother on this Ranger? - I find it interesting they did away with the clasp that tapered to a point . Wonder if they realized it scapes and damages the last bracelet link..?
Good review of this watch. It’s a nice watch but an underwhelming one. The size is good, at least by the specs. It seems to have some features going for it. There is little of the dial, however, that says this watch supports the retail price. It appears less inspired and quite utilitarian. That’s fine, but where is the value? Aside from the movement this seems a watch a third their asking price. Not for me.
After several months of debating I pulled the trigger on the Ranger. I was a big fan of the 39mm explorer and I wish I still had mine. The 36mm explorer is a bit to small for my wrist. The Ranger fits very nice on my 7 1/4 inch wrist and its my everyday "do anything" watch.
I love that this exists and I am one of those people who just wants a no frills Ranger/Explorer 1016 aesthetic with modern components. I think that would be perfect. If Tudor reduced the size down to 36 and maybe whitened the numerals a little bit (I’m not that bothered by the fauxtina) I would personally consider it a must buy. Thanks for the video!
Great review! I am a huge fan of this watch. I think that it is one of the best examples out there of tweaking a vintage model for modern tastes. A big improvement over the outgoing Ranger heritage model which I didn’t like at all. From the top, the new Ranger looks almost identical to the original 1960s model. Just bigger, and I think you had the best explanation for how they arrived at its 39mm size. It also is the same size as the Black Bay 58 which is very popular. I feel that it’s a great size for a useful modern tool watch and wouldn’t want to see it as small as the 36mm explorer. While that’s perhaps more historically accurate, I think practicality is more Important. However, I’m glad that as far as the styling, the new Ranger is very faithful to the old look. I think that the simplicity of the dial makes it still look fresh, and I feel that embellishing it like the modern explorer would take away its core tool watch image. The main place where they deviated is in changing the gracefully rounded and polished oyster case sides to the slab sided black bay look. At first I didn’t like this but it makes it fit well Into the current Tudor watch look. Also, the original case was shared with the dressier Prince model, so this makes it more like the sportier models like the sub. Brushing the sides further defines the tool watch image and eliminates the easy scratching reported with the black bay. The icing on the cake is the manufacturer movement with the low price as you point out. But why doesn’t it say COSC on the dial? It will be interesting to see if this model will also replace the North Flag or if we will also see a new version of that model in the future. To me, that model represented the logical evolution of the forgotten 1970s Ranger II model. The North Star’s Genta-like styling had a little Royal Oak, like the updated, angular 1970s Oyster Quartz styling, which defined the Quartz range as THE modern Rolex. At the time, it was anticipated that the traditionally styled mechanical range would eventually fade away, but this didn’t happen and the classic Oyster styling still remains. But I’ve always thought the angular Genta-look to be the more interesting, sophisticated style.
I think your spot on with what you’ve wrote. And to add to your write up, I think if the Ranger had applied indices it would start to look too dressy for a do all watch. It would probably never happen but it would twist your brain if a numeral fell off whilst using this watch. ( I know that’s probably massively over thinking) but it’s never going to happen on this dial. I use my CWC g10 as my grab and go work watch, it’s on the small size but strong and clean looking. So this as you say as a 39mm places its self correctly. It’s on my list.
The understated design of the face and brushed steel bracelet is what I find most appealing. This model delivers a solid build quality without creating attention it itself. It's these features that make it a great everyday watch that works for me.
I had the 39mm Explorer from 2019 and stupidly sold it. My biggest regret in watches thus far. I had already switched to Tudor and bought the BB58 in several colour versions before settling down with the 925 silver. I love it and feel it is so special but under appreciated. This new Ranger is ideal and very very lovely on that steel bracelet with the TFit clasp. I might be tempted... When you can get a new Rolex let me know, meantime back on planet earth you can buy any Tudor you want...
Bought one, didn't even make a cup of tea for me! So terribly disappointed, I must say... Joking to the side. You Sir have a great voice, for presentation. So calming, and mellow. And above all, perfectly clear. +1
I bought the 41mm version and sold it a while back because it was too big. Bought the new Ranger at a good deal and I might sell it away in the future if a smaller Ranger is available.
Completely agree. I got this from the company I work for after 20 years of service, but gladly shelled out an extra €1000 to trade it for the BB Pro instead. Great decision, just too bland and boring imo.
1952 - Outdoor adventurers find excitement going on arctic expeditions to places like North Greenland for scientific study. 2022 - Indoor bound "collectors" hope to find excitement from critiquing watches on social media, concluding tool watches look "boring". It's kind of sad what we've become, obsessing about meaningless tiny aesthetic variations that have no purpose other than virtue signalling your own personal opinions to strangers. Maybe get a life, and you won't depend on shopping for excitement.
This Tudor is 4 X the price of my Alpinist and my Alpinist looks 4 X better than the Ranger. But if you just need a reliable watch for going on hikes/treading to the Arctic, then a quarts Timex will do the job for a hundred bucks.
The Ranger at 39mm fills a gap, in both Tudors and Rolex's line-up. And it's specs beat the BB36 in every way, for a near identical price. But that dial . . . not even a smiling _self winding?_ It will please the Chinese _hommage brands_ I imagine. They'll throw in AR coating and where does that leave the Ranger?
I tried it on yesterday with the intention of purchasing it. But you summed it up perfectly!!!! A nice tool watch for a very good price but It doesn’t have the refinements to make it a understated classic. The watch sold to the next customer, so there’s definitely a large market for this watch.
I agree partly with you. I think the dial could be have been 2mm smaller, but in every other way I think it's just about perfect. I own a 124270 and rarely wear it. When I do it's on a strap, never on the bracelet. The bracelet tapers too much and I need every link on my slightly smaller than average 185mm wrist. The Easylink is a complete waste of time. This Ranger has a much better sized bracelet and the clasp is wonderful. The case is nice and shallow and all in it wears beautifully on the average male wrist. After 2 days, I'm very happy with mine.
I picked up the Ranger four days ago I owned the black, navy, bronze, 925, and heritage 41. Two comments 1 The loom is very disappointing 2 The metallic tip of the minute hand can disappear into the dial if it’s not catching any light Beyond that it is a wonderful watch The bracelet tapering as opposed to stepped, without rivets, and with the T-fit clasp is perfection. It would benefit from anti-reflection…
Totally get your point, for me its the color of the print and the size/use of space on the dial, that aren'ttoo my liking...still will check one out in store and still probably get one.
I totally agree. In 1982 I bought a Rolex submariner date. It was the first model waterproof to 300m and still had a matte dial. I sold the watch a couple of years later but in 1988 I bought another submariner date. Almost immediately I sensed something was very different about this 2nd watch and then I realised the glossy dial with the applied indeces lacked the charm and refined look of the older matte dial models. I assume Tudor are trying to re- create that vintage look. If the reviewer is disappointed with the dial of the Tudor is he disappointed with the vintage Rolex and Tudor dive watches from the 70s etc?
A very balanced and unbiased review of Tudor! Well done you! This is the first of your reviews I've seen and i must say that after the likes of Watchfinder, Adrian, and Teddy, you're doing, your short review was very good. Keep up the good work buddy! 👏🏻👍🏻😃
Absolutely bang on (and stellar production work by the way 👌🏻). Folk saying “it’s a field watch, it’s not meant to be blingy” are kind of missing the point of a nuanced critique here. Tudor could have made this much more appealing in a dozen or more ways whilst still retaining the “clean field watch aesthetic”. A dial texture, applied arabics, raised markers, an extra line or two of text to eliminate some of the negative space, different finishing in the handset, extra bevels on the case. But no, this is the Friday-afternoon, vanilla-ice-cream, get-the-intern-to-finish-the-CAD-drawing version of what this could have been. Pretty much like 90% of Tudors modern catalogue (Pelagos and Heritage Chrono notwithstanding) A stunning value prop with superb quality and movement etc - no question. But when it comes to design, well - lazy and unimaginative are well justified terms.
This watch did nothing for me until I saw one at my A.D. It's really nice in person. Doesn't photograph/video very well. ..Neither does the Tudor Royal. Gorgeous watch.
This is almost perfect for me. The 1016 has long been a grail alongside the original Rangers but price is prohibitive and 36mm just doesn’t work with my wrists (as much as I’ve tried to deny it) I’ve had the BB36 (too small for me) and BB41 (proportions are off) so may look at the BB39 if ever released in steel but I always felt the Explorer lost some of its tool-ish charm when it moved from printed dial to applied indices. What would I change about this one? Brighter/whiter colour for the indices/lume and that’s about it 👍🏻
Good review. I feel like Tudor have been phoning it in since the first BB58 - unsurprising perhaps when their slightly more interesting designs (P01, North Flag) weren’t very successful. I’m done with any kind of Black Bay release - they’re boring watches now, and this missed opportunity to release a very interesting version of the classic Ranger follows that same risk-averse pattern.
Tried it on this week, doesn’t feel special even in a low-key tool watch kind of way. Was wearing a £500 Serica 4512 that felt > despite its limitations. BB36 too small (even to try on), BB41 too large for my tastes. I had hoped this would be perfect. It’s an opportunity missed.
I totally agree with you. The dial is wrong proportioned, and it feels so empty and pale whenever you look at it. This design can only work on 36mm watches.
If they were going to once again dive into their archives ( I wish they wouldn't as a North Flag would have been amazing) then I believe a re-creation of the Oyster Prince would have been gorgeous. I really was disappointed by this as well. Your BB36 beats this by a mile mate, despite the new movement. But as I'm sure you know, your BB36 keeps just as good time. Born to Dare? I don't think so. Also yes, there is way too much negative space...but that faux lume is really sad. A white lume would have been snappy. There is so much to be sad about
I'm disappointed that there's no new North Flag yet. It's a very underrated model. As to the Oyster Prince, that would be incredible. But I think it's too close to Rolex for them to consider.
The oyster prince date day has been part of tudors offering up to 2021. Problem was you could only get them.in the Asian Market. I'm sure they'll do a reissue in the next few years as they're all discontinued now, but not for a while.. or they may rely on the tudor royal to fill that gap.
I agree; the Tudor just looks rather plain to me. If I were to go with this style, I'd select the Hamilton Khaki Field watch instead. It's a little smaller at 38mm, but it also has an 80-hour power reserve versus the Ranger's 70 hours. True, it doesn't have COSC certification nor a screw-down crown, but it's also 2/3 cheaper than the Tudor. The Ranger just doesn't have anything special going for it over many other watches in this style (IMHO).
I think I could love this watch. Judging remotely I don't love the color of the markers and numerals, and would likely prefer applied markers and even smaller (36-38 mm). I own a BB36 black dial, with a 7 inch or so wrist size, and it's a fantastic daily and do anything watch ... also perhaps my favorite watch (don't tell my BBBeta or Speedy Pro).
I'm totally with you regarding this watch. I interrupted your video to revisit the Black Bay 36 and Rolex Explorer. Next to those the Ranger looks dull and unfinished. Interestingly, the price is the same as for the Black Bay 36, which gives increased water resistance and a much more attractive dial. The Ranger scores with the movement and clasp, and that's about it. I feel that Tudor could have done so much better at no or minimal cost to them, and in so doing make what will undoubtedly be a popular watch a world beater. It's good to see a balanced approach to this watch: most "reviews" have been somewhat sycophantic I'm afraid.
The movement and clasp are significant. Much more than 50m more depth rating. Be realistic here. I don’t like the case on the BB36 as much. The polished slab sides are kinda ugly. Doesn’t elegance of the Explorer case.
Thanks Robert! I try and be as honest and balanced as possible. 😊 It's interesting that the price of the BB36 is now the same as the Ranger. I think you get a lot more finishing for your money with the BB36, but they need to get round to upgrading the clasp and movement.
@@EDHBlvd I take your point, but I still find the Ranger disappointing. For a relatively small premium you could buy the Pro which has much more to offer than either the Ranger or the Black Bay 36. It's great that people are talking about this watch and giving their opinions though, either for, against or just.... neutral (which is me). I could see myself buying this watch for its undoubted excellent qualities and then thinking "if only...".
@@EDHBlvd Hi again, in percentage terms yes, but personally I'd rather pay the extra 31% and get a watch I wanted. The Ranger is an excellent watch that deserves to succeed, but it just doesn't persuade me to part with the cash.
Was overwhelmed by the release of the Ranger as I had been hoping for a one day reissue in a 39mm… you are spot on with the assessment of the dial… Tudor could maintain both the heritage and tribute of the reissue and still give the dial a modern personality… the gloss of the hands don’t match the dial/indices! I however, still can’t wait to get one on the wrist!
I tried it and didn’t like it. Proportions felt off and it felt slightly cheap and with to much space on the dial. I prefer smaller cases and wear between a 33 to 36mm so not a fan of the 39mm.
Yes, it exites me and I might just get it. I specifically do NOT want a Rolex and this is just that: not a Rolex or trying to be one. Thanks for sharing. Jan.
Totally disagree . . . I love this watch . . . less is definitely more, the 39mm case is perfect and, as a graphic designer, its negative space works beautifully and is such a refreshing change to all the stuff that clutters up watch faces these days. I'm trying to get one but they're sold out everywhere.
I really like the watch. I like the satin finish, but if the bezel was polished and the lume was white it would be more versatile. You could put a leather strap on it and it would go good with a suit.
please, its an amazing watch! i dont get why people want applied indicies etc.. its a new version of the 1964 one!!!!! for the price its amazin, in house movement, best bracelet in the business in that price range. extremely classy appearance. great beater watch!
Saw it in real life… I think it’s a little too big for this design…. 36 37 would have been better, there is just too much black space. Would have loved to see it resemble more the watch it is paying homage to. For example the Black Bay Pro is a great alternative if you cannot afford a vintage Rolex 1655, but this ranger is not a great alternative to the vintage 1016 at all. Hope they bring out a smaller size, just like the explorer, you now have 2 sizes to choose from on the market, to each their own!
I'm a fan of everything but the size. The original Ranger and Explorers were always my grail watches, and I really was hoping Tudor would make a close copy. I've seen guys with thick wrists wear the originals, and they look great.
I have a silver dial BB36 and when the Ranger came out I was definitely going to get one. But, as time went on and the more I saw it, the less I liked that dial. Then yesterday I tried one on at the AD and that cemented it, the Ranger is not for me. I could forgive the crappy dial if it were 36mm, but at 39 its a large dial and it just shouts: CHEAP. This one irks me, Tudor was _this_ close to a great watch, instead they ruined it with a terrible dial and lume. I hope they fix it but I doubt it.
It feels like Tudor arrived too late at the very specific field of "luxury tool watch". Maybe time will gave it a better light. Anyway, i think that their divers are far more interesting.
Agree with you completely. I think all your observations, the positives and negatives are on point. An example of a watch similar to this one but that I find better executed and more interesting (in terms of its dial) is the Sinn 556a
Go buy the fucking explorer then,fucks sake..."36mm....36mm.....36mm" you all sound like a broken record ,for most NORMAL sized people this is perfectly sized watch
Have listened to bigger channels' reviews, I actually quite liked yours! I think everyone agrees it is a decent value for the build quality and movement. I think the bracelet is very objectively an upgrade. The dial is a bit more subjective. It's not all bad or all good . . . just give the pros and cons.
I am on the fence with this one. It's functionally perfect, but aesthetically boring. A few things that would make this perfect in both regards without increasing the BOM: rose logo on the dial (if you're going full homage, might as well go all the way); 'chronometer officially certified' under 'ranger' (why bother with cosc if you dont mention it on dial), brushed metal hands (polished hands clash horribly with brushed everything else). As an added bonus for the year 2022 production, I would love to see a display case back as a nod to the north flag and modern engineering, with perhaps some engraving on the rotor that refers to the North Greenland Expedition.
I have the previous Ranger and was interested to see this. I like it but was also underwhelmed. You keep saying 'larger size'. 39 mm is not a larger sized watch, 39/40 is widely considered the sweet spot. 43 + large, anything less than 38 is small for an average man.
.... given all the historical hype about the harsh frozen Greenland inspiration for this watch one would have thought that when it's minus 66.1 degrees celsius and your fingers are freezing drilled lugs would be a must so you can easily change the watch strap ....... I was excited by the release of this supposedly practical tool watch until I saw the ugly slab profile of the case without those useful lug holes and thought .... nope ........
I really like your balanced review. When it was first released, I liked it. Then the more I looked at the photos, the less I like it. I can’t quite put my fingers on what is missing. So I would love to see it in person and try it on my wrist to know for sure which side of the fan base I am on for this watch.
This isn’t meant to be lower cost modern Explorer. It’s what the Explorer used to be. A quality no frills watch that’s bombproof. Plenty of cheaper field watches that are just as good, so it’s not exactly a bargain watch for $3000 like the BB58, but a better alternative l then Rolex imo. This and the Hanhart 417 39mm are two excellent releases.
and herein lies the issue with a luxury tool watch, make it to "luxury" and it loses its tool DNA, make it too utilitarian and it begs the question, why am I spending so much on this. Another example would be the IWC Mark series.
Its a field watch for gdness sake. How busy do u want the dial to be? Too many lines is a problem...too little also. 36 too small for some, 39 too big for others, 41 way too big. No fake rivets... U cant please everyone. Tell me the Rolex Explorer or OP is not boring?
These comments are fine until you realise the price and that if you find it too simple..the cost is buying the Rolex Explorer..Happy with that? You can’t have it all at this price
Yep. People are comparing it to an Explorer which at retail is more than double the cost of this Tudor. Factor in the long Rolex waiting lists, possibly never getting the call. Or the grey market prices that are more than 3x the cost of this Tudor. Everyone complained that Tudor makes too many BB58 releases. Everyone complained that Tudor discontinued the Heritage Ranger. Tudor addresses both of these complaints in this releases. Response, more complaints. People will complain about anything.
I think there are plenty of cheaper alternatives that give me an interesting field watch look. At the same price there's the BB36, but I also think the Christopher Ward Sandhurst makes a very good alternative to ethe Ranger. Cheaper still is a Smith's Everest or Hamilton Khaki Pilot Pioneer Mechanical.
Much better alternatives are the omega railmaster and iwc mark 18,you could get those at a discount so approx £3k,id do that rather than buy a Tudor, a brand with very little prestige and is seen as a budget Rolex.
Great video but you're point about the new explorer is dead wrong. The 1016 shits on any explorer that came after it. Especially the modern version of the explorer.
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No hands-on review is disappointing.
@@scottrockett6382 What do you mean? This was hands-on.
Funny thing personal taste. I really like the new Ranger and I decided today that I'm getting one. In fact it is pretty much the only Tudor in the catalogue I'd be interested in. I hear the chorus of griping from so many sides. Yeah well... It feels like I've been doing this watch collecting thing for too long. Whenever I allow myself to be influenced by the crowd, or to get carried along with hype, I've _nearly always_ ended up selling the watch sooner or later. That includes Rolex this that and the other. The ones that stay with you are the ones that you just simply like - even if they are completely unloved or simply undiscussed by the trendy crowd. If you buy something for/because of others you'll end up hating it. The fact that there may not be the huge hype-driven waiting lists is also utterly beautiful. I mean, a _waiting list_ for a _damned wrist watch?_ That alone is bat-sh+t crazy, isn't it??
As for those people out there who think the Ranger is boring....uhm...it's a _field watch_ guys! It is meant to be plain, functional and utilitarian. If people think such a watch should be fancy or funky or (worse) faux-expensive...pff...well...each to his own, I guess. But for me that would be unspeakably crass and vulgar at this price point.
Most people buy watches to try and impress other people. It's a nice moment when you stop caring about others opinions and just do for yourself.
Nice to see a guy who knows himself. I disagree with everything the haters are saying. I like you have had rolex models come and go but the simplicity of a black dial OP and the practicality and lack of “look at me” is what has drawn me to the ranger. Tudor have nailed it at least for me with the case size and so called “boring” dial. Nothing wrong with being plain and simple
Good choice, ranger is a beauty i like it too, i don't know why everyone hates it nowadays every one can't live without comparing a watch to the rolex. Every watch has it own beauty. If they want the ranger to be like explorer then why don't they just buy a rolex? Right
i've had mine for a week and i absolutely love it but it fits my lifestyle and i'm not looking for bro recognition
Great comment. Absolutely true and I’m guilty of what you said.
I bought a moser because of the huge online hype about the watches. Convinced myself it was amazing. Hardly wore it, just wasn’t me far too ostentatious. Sold it after a while and got a Glashütte seventies panorama date. No one knows it, yet the design and quality suited me perfectly. One of the best sports steel integrated bracelet watches out there and totally unknown. And I love it.
I wanted an everyday tool watch and after LOTS of researching it was between this, the muhle glashutte 29er and the Sinn 556ib. The size and design for me is perfect but went for the Sinn because the finishing just not great on the Tudor and the Sinn is even more versatile.
I absolutely love it ..underwhelmed by the renders but when I put it on my wrist I loved it . The value is off the scale . I’m 6”3 so the side is perfection to . I have a collection that is Rolex and omega sports heavy and there’s quite a bit of shine .. personally love the dial no nonsense or faff , this is the watch that will just look better with scratches a bumps . Depends what you want , what your collection looks like . I wanted the no nonsense fully brushed case and simple dial so they have nailed it like the painted markers etc , looks true to the original ..
Beautiful watch! This is a sleeper hit and will be sought after. I’m getting one!
Great review…I was window shopping yesterday and had zero intention of buying a watch…I saw the store had the Ranger in stock and had wanted to see one in person…did not like it on the bracelet but loved it on the green strap…I’d been looking for a field watch to balance out my Rolex thunderbird with fluted bezel and jubilee bracelet…this was the perfect solution…boring in the steel bracelet but looks awesome on diff straps…I was window shopping with no intention to buy, but now the Ranger sits on my nightstand and must say I’m quite happy…others might not like it, so it’s a good thing I bought it for my own enjoyment and not everyone else’s…
I'm one of the fans of the 39mm sized Explorer, so I appreciate you mentioning that we exist. I am currently wearing my 39.5mm SPB089 Alpinist, and just love that size for a field watch (38-40 are all good). I find the Black Bay 36 to be too small on wrist, while the Black Bay 41 (non-diver) is a bit big for my taste. I concur with the dial criticism. While faithful to the original, I would have loved to see a bit of modernity thrown in such as the use of ceramic lume for all the markings/numerals and slightly higher end looking hands. You nailed it with the feel that any homage brand could have made it, and it brings to mind the San Martin SN020-G. While I think that's a cool watch, it similarly has lume that looks a bit off in colour (there is a white dial version available now), and at least it is a crazy amount cheaper while being a quality 39mm 1016 homage. T-fit clasp and movement aside, I can't help but think something like the Sinn 556 A has a better overall look, and at 38.5mm is a great size too. A polished bezel on the Ranger might have also spiced things up a bit while still looking like a tool watch. I definitely cannot complain about the price, as that is a solid value. I'd easily pay a little more to have some of the upgrades mentioned though. It is too bad Tudor did not release a 36mm version as well. After all, it is not like we are expected to go to a store and somehow all fit into a Medium sized t-shirt.
Well said! We seem to be on the same wavelength. The Ranger alternative that springs to my mind is the Christopher Ward Sandhurst. 38mm, chronometer movement, and 150m WR, along with a more interesting dial. Ticks virtually all the same boxes at a fraction of the price.
You're on to something regarding the Sinn...
These guys have no idea about the link between Tudor & Rolex and what this will mean for 2023 🧐Know Your complete history 😉
I really like the Ranger. Don’t mind the plain look as I have enough other watches with more going on on the dial. So for me I think Tudor nailed it. Good review though.
This was easily one of the most “balanced” reviews I’ve seen, taking into consideration all sides of the discussion.
Well done!!!
As someone with a generous 8” wrist I find 39mm about as small as I care to go, so I’m very much looking forward to seeing this watch in person and trying it on.
Cheers!
Lol, everyone is dumping on this watch. Yeah, it's a in house movement with tudor declaring accuracy that surpasses COSC, yeah it has 70 hours power reserve, yeah it's from an established manufacturer with a proud heritage and the watch itself has a proud heritage. Yeah, it comes dirty cheap at less than 3000 bucks with a new and improved top grade bracelet. Yes, at this price point it's one of the cheapest in house movement watch on the market and still doesn't cheap on anything offering sapphire glass, antimagnetic, 100 meters resistance. etc etc. Yeah yeah, it's kinda impressive the combo top producer, lowest price, top quality.
But you know, that historically accurate dial... it's boring I guess. Yeah.
You, you do what you want. I ordered mine.
Some times I think the parent brand of Rolex holds back what we all know we want in a watch. That is, that Tudor puts a good foot forward, but perhaps not the best foot. After all, they need to give customers a reason to stretch a little harder for all that is offered in Rolex.
I think many would agree that applied indices whether it be BB Pro or metal surrounds, a bit more dial text, and something closer to 36mm, would be a crowd pleaser. I am really getting tired of faux patina.
First off; I have a 8 1/4” wrist so sub 40mm watches have scared me away. I was surprised with how much I love this watch. My AD gave me a shout and gave me first crank at one. I picked it up and was a little underwhelmed… then I wore it, and kept wearing it, and kept wearing it. It is such a wonderful wearing tool-tastic watch. It’s everything I’ve heard about the Explorer for years; underwhelming then you wear it and it just becomes your favorite watch. I have a pretty good watch illness and this watch has become my go to daily watch. I highly recommend it
I 1000% agree. The Ranger has an in house movement and the T-Fit clasp, everything else about the BB36 is better. Finishing, size, overall look, dial, hands, etc. I’d wait for Tudor to give the in house movement and clasp to the BB36 hopefully later this year. That would make the BB36, which already is, the best Explorer alternative.
Why do people think the BB36 call it an explorer alternative? It has circle markers and doesn’t remind me of a field watch whatsoever. In fact I much prefer the BB36 over the ranger and the explorer. I see it as it’s own thing.
@@drkesrf finishing wise, dial markers being stark white applied indices and versatility of the BB36 is much closer to the Explorer than the Ranger. I agree that the dial design makes it look a bit different, but the modern Explorer is more of an everyday versatile piece than a field watch at this point. I think the BB36 has that vibe as well.
@@drkesrf I agree, it irks me that every watch seemingly has to be whittled down to which Rolex it is the best alternative to, whether it’s Tudor, Omega, Seiko or whoever.
I totally agree with you about the dial. I tried it on and felt it looked boring with the printing being so flat. It reminded me of the Q Timex printed dial.
A little bit of volume in the printing or like you say solid blocks of lume would make it much more interesting.
Exactly! It's Ok on a cheap watch like the Timex, but not at this price point.
@@12and60 tell that to IWC. They do it to the tune of substantially more money, but without an in-house movement. They may or may not execute what they do at a higher level, but relative to the money, Tudor is doing just fine here. The Rolex Explorer here is far more money and it’s been allowed to be refined over the years. This Ranger, it’s been brought back from the dead. It’s true to form ASAT, it simply is, you get what it offers or move on, it’s just that simple. If the design speaks to you- it’s a good value with respect to its specs. That’s all she wrote.
This watch deserves to be in the Tudor catalogue. It’s true to the aesthetic, it’s a lot of watch in a perfect size. There’s nothing stopping Tudor from expanding on this line. They could keep this version and expand on it. The model for this in my mind would be Omega. look at their limited editions of the trilogy series alongside more modern offerings of the same watch. They pair well together. The Railmaster is a good example.
Tudor checked a lot of boxes with this one.I’ve got no issue with fauxtina, the color they chose, wouldn’t have been my first choice. That said, for anyone interested in buying g and wearing this watch- it’s meant to be a daily wear and I’m guessing it’s something you’d grow more fond of over time. It would age well.
Explorer 1016
Just a little thought would have led Tudor to white and not dull yellow dial indices and hands. The dial is out of balance top to bottom, another line of text at the bottom would help. Yes, homage watches will be out soon for $100 - $500US and will come within $100US in real quality vs market quality of this simple watch design. That's the current problem in the watch world, homage and microbrands are getting very close in quality at pennies on the dollar.
Good review with plenty of unbiased valid points, I had the opposite experience as I had no interest in the ranger on first seeing all the press releases, still one day I found myself in an AD and asked to see one while I was there.......I loved it and think it looks great on the wrist ! I enjoy how subjective this hobby/disease is lol
The overly faux patina and bland printed dial are my biggest disappointments too. Applied markers would better indicate its price point and better match the Explorer's tool-like yet innate quality.
Excellent watch,I've got one
Every collection needs a watch like this. Perfect business casual to outdoor watch. Looks amazing on distressed leather or any number of natos.
I'm starting to save money for it.
I feel very much the same way. Without applied indices or some other measure of quality craftsmanship I couldn't bring myself to lay down that much cash on a printed dial. I've been wanting a smaller Ranger for quite a while, so I'm quite surprised how underwhelmed I am by it.
such watches always lose their magic by the upscaled case sizes. It should have been 36mm and nobody would have complained about the printed dial etc.
@@danielmeier8321 yep the dial looks cheap
So you know that there us quality there, but it has "to show" that it uses expensive??? Not enough for you to know it's quality???
@@vvvhhhhhbb I'm not talking diamonds, but yes, I want a level of visual craftsmanship present in a watch that is expensive.
@@Gramercy_Stiffs just buy it.. the quality is there!!! brushing is amazingly done.
having tried both the BB36 and the Ranger, in my opinion, the alternative of the current Explorer is the BB36. The Ranger reminds me more of the current Omega Railmaster
San Martin uses applied markers on their Explorer homage but Tudor couldn’t bother on this Ranger?
- I find it interesting they did away with the clasp that tapered to a point . Wonder if they realized it scapes and damages the last bracelet link..?
Good review of this watch. It’s a nice watch but an underwhelming one. The size is good, at least by the specs. It seems to have some features going for it. There is little of the dial, however, that says this watch supports the retail price. It appears less inspired and quite utilitarian. That’s fine, but where is the value? Aside from the movement this seems a watch a third their asking price. Not for me.
After several months of debating I pulled the trigger on the Ranger. I was a big fan of the 39mm explorer and I wish I still had mine. The 36mm explorer is a bit to small for my wrist. The Ranger fits very nice on my 7 1/4 inch wrist and its my everyday "do anything" watch.
I love that this exists and I am one of those people who just wants a no frills Ranger/Explorer 1016 aesthetic with modern components. I think that would be perfect. If Tudor reduced the size down to 36 and maybe whitened the numerals a little bit (I’m not that bothered by the fauxtina) I would personally consider it a must buy. Thanks for the video!
White numerals would be enough for me. Something about the discoloration just seems off-putting to me. Other than that, i like it.
Great review! I am a huge fan of this watch. I think that it is one of the best examples out there of tweaking a vintage model for modern tastes. A big improvement over the outgoing Ranger heritage model which I didn’t like at all. From the top, the new Ranger looks almost identical to the original 1960s model. Just bigger, and I think you had the best explanation for how they arrived at its 39mm size. It also is the same size as the Black Bay 58 which is very popular. I feel that it’s a great size for a useful modern tool watch and wouldn’t want to see it as small as the 36mm explorer. While that’s perhaps more historically accurate, I think practicality is more Important. However, I’m glad that as far as the styling, the new Ranger is very faithful to the old look. I think that the simplicity of the dial makes it still look fresh, and I feel that embellishing it like the modern explorer would take away its core tool watch image. The main place where they deviated is in changing the gracefully rounded and polished oyster case sides to the slab sided black bay look. At first I didn’t like this but it makes it fit well Into the current Tudor watch look. Also, the original case was shared with the dressier Prince model, so this makes it more like the sportier models like the sub. Brushing the sides further defines the tool watch image and eliminates the easy scratching reported with the black bay. The icing on the cake is the manufacturer movement with the low price as you point out. But why doesn’t it say COSC on the dial?
It will be interesting to see if this model will also replace the North Flag or if we will also see a new version of that model in the future. To me, that model represented the logical evolution of the forgotten 1970s Ranger II model. The North Star’s Genta-like styling had a little Royal Oak, like the updated, angular 1970s Oyster Quartz styling, which defined the Quartz range as THE modern Rolex. At the time, it was anticipated that the traditionally styled mechanical range would eventually fade away, but this didn’t happen and the classic Oyster styling still remains. But I’ve always thought the angular Genta-look to be the more interesting, sophisticated style.
I think your spot on with what you’ve wrote. And to add to your write up, I think if the Ranger had applied indices it would start to look too dressy for a do all watch. It would probably never happen but it would twist your brain if a numeral fell off whilst using this watch. ( I know that’s probably massively over thinking) but it’s never going to happen on this dial. I use my CWC g10 as my grab and go work watch, it’s on the small size but strong and clean looking. So this as you say as a 39mm places its self correctly. It’s on my list.
The understated design of the face and brushed steel bracelet is what I find most appealing. This model delivers a solid build quality without creating attention it itself. It's these features that make it a great everyday watch that works for me.
I had the 39mm Explorer from 2019 and stupidly sold it. My biggest regret in watches thus far. I had already switched to Tudor and bought the BB58 in several colour versions before settling down with the 925 silver. I love it and feel it is so special but under appreciated. This new Ranger is ideal and very very lovely on that steel bracelet with the TFit clasp. I might be tempted... When you can get a new Rolex let me know, meantime back on planet earth you can buy any Tudor you want...
I sold my Explorer too, for DJ41. I also regret it.
Bought one, didn't even make a cup of tea for me! So terribly disappointed, I must say... Joking to the side.
You Sir have a great voice, for presentation. So calming, and mellow.
And above all, perfectly clear. +1
I bought the 41mm version and sold it a while back because it was too big. Bought the new Ranger at a good deal and I might sell it away in the future if a smaller Ranger is available.
Completely agree. I got this from the company I work for after 20 years of service, but gladly shelled out an extra €1000 to trade it for the BB Pro instead. Great decision, just too bland and boring imo.
1952 - Outdoor adventurers find excitement going on arctic expeditions to places like North Greenland for scientific study.
2022 - Indoor bound "collectors" hope to find excitement from critiquing watches on social media, concluding tool watches look "boring".
It's kind of sad what we've become, obsessing about meaningless tiny aesthetic variations that have no purpose other than virtue signalling your own personal opinions to strangers. Maybe get a life, and you won't depend on shopping for excitement.
Wow. Perhaps you are the one in need of a life. One can collect and also enjoy the outdoors.
This Tudor is 4 X the price of my Alpinist and my Alpinist looks 4 X better than the Ranger. But if you just need a reliable watch for going on hikes/treading to the Arctic, then a quarts Timex will do the job for a hundred bucks.
The Ranger at 39mm fills a gap, in both Tudors and Rolex's line-up.
And it's specs beat the BB36 in every way, for a near identical price. But that dial . . . not even a smiling _self winding?_
It will please the Chinese _hommage brands_ I imagine. They'll throw in AR coating and where does that leave the Ranger?
I tried it on yesterday with the intention of purchasing it.
But you summed it up perfectly!!!!
A nice tool watch for a very good price but It doesn’t have the refinements to make it a understated classic.
The watch sold to the next customer, so there’s definitely a large market for this watch.
I agree partly with you. I think the dial could be have been 2mm smaller, but in every other way I think it's just about perfect. I own a 124270 and rarely wear it. When I do it's on a strap, never on the bracelet. The bracelet tapers too much and I need every link on my slightly smaller than average 185mm wrist. The Easylink is a complete waste of time. This Ranger has a much better sized bracelet and the clasp is wonderful. The case is nice and shallow and all in it wears beautifully on the average male wrist. After 2 days, I'm very happy with mine.
Why do you all think that the general public at large all want tiny watches exactly?we aren't all skinny wristed Poindexter's
I picked up the Ranger four days ago
I owned the black, navy, bronze, 925, and heritage 41.
Two comments
1 The loom is very disappointing
2 The metallic tip of the minute hand can disappear into the dial if it’s not catching any light
Beyond that it is a wonderful watch
The bracelet tapering as opposed to stepped, without rivets, and with the T-fit clasp is perfection.
It would benefit from anti-reflection…
Totally get your point, for me its the color of the print and the size/use of space on the dial, that aren'ttoo my liking...still will check one out in store and still probably get one.
Definitely try one on in person! It looks a bit different in person compared to on Tudor's site.
I'm actually really liking this dial. Gives an opportunity to get something that looks vintage yet is brand new and not from some random microbrand
I totally agree. In 1982 I bought a Rolex submariner date. It was the first model waterproof to 300m and still had a matte dial. I sold the watch a couple of years later but in 1988 I bought another submariner date. Almost immediately I sensed something was very different about this 2nd watch and then I realised the glossy dial with the applied indeces lacked the charm and refined look of the older matte dial models. I assume Tudor are trying to re- create that vintage look. If the reviewer is disappointed with the dial of the Tudor is he disappointed with the vintage Rolex and Tudor dive watches from the 70s etc?
I'll decide when I see it on MY wrist. My old Rolex 1016 was my favorite watch of all times. This one looks pretty good - albeit 39mm vs. 36mm.
Ohhh you're the guy who used to do watchgecko videos-- no wonder this looks so familiar!
Good stuff!
Yep, that's me! 😅 I left there earlier this year to start 12&60.
A very balanced and unbiased review of Tudor! Well done you! This is the first of your reviews I've seen and i must say that after the likes of Watchfinder, Adrian, and Teddy, you're doing, your short review was very good. Keep up the good work buddy! 👏🏻👍🏻😃
Absolutely bang on (and stellar production work by the way 👌🏻).
Folk saying “it’s a field watch, it’s not meant to be blingy” are kind of missing the point of a nuanced critique here.
Tudor could have made this much more appealing in a dozen or more ways whilst still retaining the “clean field watch aesthetic”. A dial texture, applied arabics, raised markers, an extra line or two of text to eliminate some of the negative space, different finishing in the handset, extra bevels on the case.
But no, this is the Friday-afternoon, vanilla-ice-cream, get-the-intern-to-finish-the-CAD-drawing version of what this could have been. Pretty much like 90% of Tudors modern catalogue (Pelagos and Heritage Chrono notwithstanding)
A stunning value prop with superb quality and movement etc - no question.
But when it comes to design, well - lazy and unimaginative are well justified terms.
The proportions are very wrong with this watch imo. The 60's model looks way better
Great review. Does anyone know the stats on the bracelet taper? The Explorer 39 seems to taper down a bit more.
This watch did nothing for me until I saw one at my A.D.
It's really nice in person. Doesn't photograph/video very well.
..Neither does the Tudor Royal. Gorgeous watch.
This is almost perfect for me. The 1016 has long been a grail alongside the original Rangers but price is prohibitive and 36mm just doesn’t work with my wrists (as much as I’ve tried to deny it)
I’ve had the BB36 (too small for me) and BB41 (proportions are off) so may look at the BB39 if ever released in steel but I always felt the Explorer lost some of its tool-ish charm when it moved from printed dial to applied indices.
What would I change about this one? Brighter/whiter colour for the indices/lume and that’s about it 👍🏻
Good review. I feel like Tudor have been phoning it in since the first BB58 - unsurprising perhaps when their slightly more interesting designs (P01, North Flag) weren’t very successful. I’m done with any kind of Black Bay release - they’re boring watches now, and this missed opportunity to release a very interesting version of the classic Ranger follows that same risk-averse pattern.
I mostly agree. The BB58 and IMO also the GMT were hits. The rest have been duds. Bb pro is awful
Tried it on this week, doesn’t feel special even in a low-key tool watch kind of way. Was wearing a £500 Serica 4512 that felt > despite its limitations.
BB36 too small (even to try on), BB41 too large for my tastes. I had hoped this would be perfect. It’s an opportunity missed.
I totally agree with you. The dial is wrong proportioned, and it feels so empty and pale whenever you look at it. This design can only work on 36mm watches.
Have you ever try to buy one in uk, told if i am lucky could get one around Christmas
Perfect understatement watch. How is the lume?
If they were going to once again dive into their archives ( I wish they wouldn't as a North Flag would have been amazing) then I believe a re-creation of the Oyster Prince would have been gorgeous. I really was disappointed by this as well. Your BB36 beats this by a mile mate, despite the new movement. But as I'm sure you know, your BB36 keeps just as good time. Born to Dare? I don't think so. Also yes, there is way too much negative space...but that faux lume is really sad. A white lume would have been snappy. There is so much to be sad about
I'm disappointed that there's no new North Flag yet. It's a very underrated model.
As to the Oyster Prince, that would be incredible. But I think it's too close to Rolex for them to consider.
@@12and60 if they got any closer to Rolex already they'd be sharing molecules 😂
The oyster prince date day has been part of tudors offering up to 2021. Problem was you could only get them.in the Asian Market.
I'm sure they'll do a reissue in the next few years as they're all discontinued now, but not for a while.. or they may rely on the tudor royal to fill that gap.
If it was 36mm I’d have gone for it. 👌
Man your channel is so underrated.
Thanks mate! 😁
I agree; the Tudor just looks rather plain to me. If I were to go with this style, I'd select the Hamilton Khaki Field watch instead. It's a little smaller at 38mm, but it also has an 80-hour power reserve versus the Ranger's 70 hours. True, it doesn't have COSC certification nor a screw-down crown, but it's also 2/3 cheaper than the Tudor. The Ranger just doesn't have anything special going for it over many other watches in this style (IMHO).
I couldn't agree more... and to point out that they can make a great looking dial on a budget, one only needs to look at the 1926 Opaline.
It is great that the bb36 can now step out of the "explorer alternative" status and stand on its own. Design wise, much better.
I’d get one, but saw an oyster perpetual in a window in Vienna. I’ll wait
My biggest gripe is that faux lume it looks horrible 😕 I rather if Tudor brought back the Tudor Prince Big block chronograph with a in house movement
I think I could love this watch. Judging remotely I don't love the color of the markers and numerals, and would likely prefer applied markers and even smaller (36-38 mm). I own a BB36 black dial, with a 7 inch or so wrist size, and it's a fantastic daily and do anything watch ... also perhaps my favorite watch (don't tell my BBBeta or Speedy Pro).
I'm totally with you regarding this watch. I interrupted your video to revisit the Black Bay 36 and Rolex Explorer. Next to those the Ranger looks dull and unfinished. Interestingly, the price is the same as for the Black Bay 36, which gives increased water resistance and a much more attractive dial. The Ranger scores with the movement and clasp, and that's about it. I feel that Tudor could have done so much better at no or minimal cost to them, and in so doing make what will undoubtedly be a popular watch a world beater. It's good to see a balanced approach to this watch: most "reviews" have been somewhat sycophantic I'm afraid.
The movement and clasp are significant. Much more than 50m more depth rating. Be realistic here. I don’t like the case on the BB36 as much. The polished slab sides are kinda ugly. Doesn’t elegance of the Explorer case.
Thanks Robert! I try and be as honest and balanced as possible. 😊 It's interesting that the price of the BB36 is now the same as the Ranger. I think you get a lot more finishing for your money with the BB36, but they need to get round to upgrading the clasp and movement.
@@EDHBlvd I take your point, but I still find the Ranger disappointing. For a relatively small premium you could buy the Pro which has much more to offer than either the Ranger or the Black Bay 36. It's great that people are talking about this watch and giving their opinions though, either for, against or just.... neutral (which is me). I could see myself buying this watch for its undoubted excellent qualities and then thinking "if only...".
@@robertlock6041 small premium? It’s 31% more. That’s significant.
@@EDHBlvd Hi again, in percentage terms yes, but personally I'd rather pay the extra 31% and get a watch I wanted. The Ranger is an excellent watch that deserves to succeed, but it just doesn't persuade me to part with the cash.
Was overwhelmed by the release of the Ranger as I had been hoping for a one day reissue in a 39mm… you are spot on with the assessment of the dial… Tudor could maintain both the heritage and tribute of the reissue and still give the dial a modern personality… the gloss of the hands don’t match the dial/indices!
I however, still can’t wait to get one on the wrist!
Good points on using the dial to make the watch look higher end. There are a lot of sub-$1000 Explorer homages out there.
Just buy a Sinn 556A for nearly half the price. I wish this was 38mm or 39mm, used snowflake hands, and didn't use faux/fake patina.
The faux patina and the contemporary size dial doesn’t blend well for me
The music is better on this one
I totally didn’t know the lumes are dual colo, good spot! You got yourself another subscriber!
I like it. For me it has a lovely rugged simplicity! I don’t own a Tudor but I am tempted. I missed the 39mm Explorer
I tried it and didn’t like it. Proportions felt off and it felt slightly cheap and with to much space on the dial. I prefer smaller cases and wear between a 33 to 36mm so not a fan of the 39mm.
Yes, it exites me and I might just get it. I specifically do NOT want a Rolex and this is just that: not a Rolex or trying to be one. Thanks for sharing. Jan.
I tried one on yesterday, I’m definitely interested in buying one it’s a field watch no frills
Exactly Robert I’m glad he didn’t design it it’s A tool Watch. If it was 36 mm I would buy one.
Think I’d take this over the bb36. I’m not crazy about snowflake hands or the smiley text on the 36 dial.
Totally disagree . . . I love this watch . . . less is definitely more, the 39mm case is perfect and, as a graphic designer, its negative space works beautifully and is such a refreshing change to all the stuff that clutters up watch faces these days. I'm trying to get one but they're sold out everywhere.
Fair enough! We all like different things! Surprised you can't get hold of one though. There seem to be plenty available where I am.
Everyone seems to have forgotten about the North Flag , especially on a bracelet. Pisses on the Ranger, lucky to gat mine, new old stock😂 love it
I really like the watch. I like the satin finish, but if the bezel was polished and the lume was white it would be more versatile. You could put a leather strap on it and it would go good with a suit.
please, its an amazing watch! i dont get why people want applied indicies etc.. its a new version of the 1964 one!!!!! for the price its amazin, in house movement, best bracelet in the business in that price range. extremely classy appearance. great beater watch!
Saw it in real life… I think it’s a little too big for this design…. 36 37 would have been better, there is just too much black space. Would have loved to see it resemble more the watch it is paying homage to. For example the Black Bay Pro is a great alternative if you cannot afford a vintage Rolex 1655, but this ranger is not a great alternative to the vintage 1016 at all. Hope they bring out a smaller size, just like the explorer, you now have 2 sizes to choose from on the market, to each their own!
Best Ranger review so far!
I'm a fan of everything but the size. The original Ranger and Explorers were always my grail watches, and I really was hoping Tudor would make a close copy. I've seen guys with thick wrists wear the originals, and they look great.
I have a silver dial BB36 and when the Ranger came out I was definitely going to get one. But, as time went on and the more I saw it, the less I liked that dial. Then yesterday I tried one on at the AD and that cemented it, the Ranger is not for me. I could forgive the crappy dial if it were 36mm, but at 39 its a large dial and it just shouts: CHEAP. This one irks me, Tudor was _this_ close to a great watch, instead they ruined it with a terrible dial and lume. I hope they fix it but I doubt it.
It feels like Tudor arrived too late at the very specific field of "luxury tool watch". Maybe time will gave it a better light. Anyway, i think that their divers are far more interesting.
I’d like just it has come out with the block numbers like my BB Pro ,the rest is perfect for my wrist
Agree with you completely. I think all your observations, the positives and negatives are on point.
An example of a watch similar to this one but that I find better executed and more interesting (in terms of its dial) is the Sinn 556a
Love your channel! I would have lined up to purchase this model at 36 mm. How does the finishing compare to the bb 36 (my current daily)?
Go buy the fucking explorer then,fucks sake..."36mm....36mm.....36mm" you all sound like a broken record ,for most NORMAL sized people this is perfectly sized watch
Have listened to bigger channels' reviews, I actually quite liked yours! I think everyone agrees it is a decent value for the build quality and movement. I think the bracelet is very objectively an upgrade. The dial is a bit more subjective. It's not all bad or all good . . . just give the pros and cons.
I am on the fence with this one. It's functionally perfect, but aesthetically boring. A few things that would make this perfect in both regards without increasing the BOM: rose logo on the dial (if you're going full homage, might as well go all the way); 'chronometer officially certified' under 'ranger' (why bother with cosc if you dont mention it on dial), brushed metal hands (polished hands clash horribly with brushed everything else). As an added bonus for the year 2022 production, I would love to see a display case back as a nod to the north flag and modern engineering, with perhaps some engraving on the rotor that refers to the North Greenland Expedition.
I have the previous Ranger and was interested to see this. I like it but was also underwhelmed. You keep saying 'larger size'. 39 mm is not a larger sized watch, 39/40 is widely considered the sweet spot. 43 + large, anything less than 38 is small for an average man.
Good honest review. I do worry that Tudor has descended into a lazy homage brand
.... given all the historical hype about the harsh frozen Greenland inspiration for this watch one would have thought that when it's minus 66.1 degrees celsius and your fingers are freezing drilled lugs would be a must so you can easily change the watch strap ....... I was excited by the release of this supposedly practical tool watch until I saw the ugly slab profile of the case without those useful lug holes and thought .... nope ........
I really like your balanced review.
When it was first released, I liked it. Then the more I looked at the photos, the less I like it. I can’t quite put my fingers on what is missing. So I would love to see it in person and try it on my wrist to know for sure which side of the fan base I am on for this watch.
It looks like a Citizen watch...
This isn’t meant to be lower cost modern Explorer. It’s what the Explorer used to be. A quality no frills watch that’s bombproof. Plenty of cheaper field watches that are just as good, so it’s not exactly a bargain watch for $3000 like the BB58, but a better alternative l then Rolex imo. This and the Hanhart 417 39mm are two excellent releases.
and herein lies the issue with a luxury tool watch, make it to "luxury" and it loses its tool DNA, make it too utilitarian and it begs the question, why am I spending so much on this. Another example would be the IWC Mark series.
Its a field watch for gdness sake. How busy do u want the dial to be? Too many lines is a problem...too little also. 36 too small for some, 39 too big for others, 41 way too big.
No fake rivets...
U cant please everyone.
Tell me the Rolex Explorer or OP is not boring?
This Tudor is more boring than the 2 Rolex models you mentioned. This Tudor looks like a Citizen watch.
Please check their ref 7995.
39mm is too small for a 7in plus wrist. You want a smaller case size? It should be a 40 since the prior was 41mm. It’s a ladies watch basically.
My biggest disappointment about the Ranger - my AD told me that there’s an 8 month wait to purchase one.
These comments are fine until you realise the price and that if you find it too simple..the cost is buying the Rolex Explorer..Happy with that?
You can’t have it all at this price
Yep. People are comparing it to an Explorer which at retail is more than double the cost of this Tudor. Factor in the long Rolex waiting lists, possibly never getting the call. Or the grey market prices that are more than 3x the cost of this Tudor.
Everyone complained that Tudor makes too many BB58 releases. Everyone complained that Tudor discontinued the Heritage Ranger. Tudor addresses both of these complaints in this releases. Response, more complaints. People will complain about anything.
I think there are plenty of cheaper alternatives that give me an interesting field watch look. At the same price there's the BB36, but I also think the Christopher Ward Sandhurst makes a very good alternative to ethe Ranger. Cheaper still is a Smith's Everest or Hamilton Khaki Pilot Pioneer Mechanical.
Much better alternatives are the omega railmaster and iwc mark 18,you could get those at a discount so approx £3k,id do that rather than buy a Tudor, a brand with very little prestige and is seen as a budget Rolex.
@@coffeeboyclips1973 YES Railmaster instead of this 100%
Love the video but I disagree with most of what you said.
i love my ranger for a number of reasons, although great review
Ok 3d lume plot like the bb pro makes sense. I agree
Great video but you're point about the new explorer is dead wrong. The 1016 shits on any explorer that came after it. Especially the modern version of the explorer.
great review. agree 💯