Where are we getting our Sikhi from?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- Jagraj Singh discusses the truth about interfaith-marriages and people that think they know Sikhi, based on what? Internet Sikhi? Find out more in this #RealkTalk video!
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That was hard hitting as hell. But all respect to Bhai Saab for standing up. We need more people like him. He has the guts to speak the truth. Vaheguru
Sandeep Singh stand up ,,? ??Do you have guts ,hat r u waiting for ,,,,,only comments ,, realise yourself ,, you can do it ,,, every Sikh in comments can do the good prachar ,, but they don't want to take responsibility ,,,
"...including my own brother..." That bit was perhaps the harshest, but righteous. nonetheless. I never heard Bhai Jagraj ji address his brother
i have guts to speak truth around women then falsely be able to practice it myself in practicing my deeds in what Sikh asks for us and studying lifestyle i need to stand on becoming a man
This is a great video. This distinguishes the difference between Sikhs and Punjabis. Some people are born into a Sikh family and don't practise Sikhi, but think their Sikh when infact their Punjabi. So they follow cultural norms (in Punjabi culture) and feel they need to get married in a gurdwara and then cut their hair and beard and then have a party with meat and alcohol.
***** Hi, yes I do agree with it. I feel alot of people are making up their own religion and are it studying the real Sikhi from the Guru Granth Ji Sahib. What is your view?
Another truly stunning video. Should really chime with a lot people born into Sikh families who practise a liberal form.
Please share as much as possible.
Respect to Basics Of Sikhi. Sometimes it has to be told like this. The Anand Karaj - Blissful Union Of The Soul is The Gurus ceremony, written by The Gurus. The Sikh - Khalsa bride / groom have the honour to participate in this ceremony of The Gurus, giving their 'head' to The Gurus and accepting the Hukam - Command of The Gurus.
Thank you for being the one to talk not only truthfully but also nicely. people like myself sometimes don't know how uninformed we have been until we see videos like this. wjkk wjkf
Another quality video highlights today's problems.
bang on point well done
I have watched many of your various videos, Basic of Sikhi is doing a excellent job. Thanks mainly to dear Jagmeet Singh, Baljit Singh & Partap Dev Kaur. U all r doing excellent job. Wahe Guru ji chardi kala rahkan. Wahe Guru ji the Khalsa Wahe Guru ji fateh.
This video does cover recent Interfaith-marriage issue but it is lot more than that. It is extremely useful for all Sikhs to watch. I recommend to post this video link on your fb page and tag all Sikhs in your friend list.
This was very insightful and raised a lot of understanding for me. I am married to my wife who is punjabi, and is sikh. She gives me clothes, food, and has me do ceremonies to take pictures like you said, but whenever I asked what these things are or what it's for she says she doesn't really know. She wants me to come to temple with her dressed in the pyjama, and cover my head and I bow in front after donating. then i sit and listen to the shabad and all that but really don't understand. She tells me she never forces me for anything, but I also feel that if I don't participate it is tooken a bit personally by her. And personally I have felt a bit of shame because, I do respect what I know of gurbani. I suppose what I'm asking is, I am interested and have often felt very humbled at what i have uncovered myself in learning about sikhil. but i don't know if I am being offensive if that makes sense.
Hi Sebastien, thanks for your comment. It doesn't sound at all offensive what you're doing. By watching the videos and learning about Gurbani, you'll enjoy that Gurdwara experience more every time and whether or not you become a Sikh, at least that time in the Gurdwara and all the rituals will make sense. Just keep learning and Guruji will support you with what to learn.
Sunny hundal needs to watch this video then debate Jagraj Singh
siblings already in two seperate camps one atheist the other Gursikh...Sunny openly admits he is not a believer of God so what gets me is how he is so determined to tell Sikhs how to do Sikhi... it must be hard for Jagraj veer ji
robin chetan why don't you waste breath elsewhere . My husband is sikh
Jasbir Kaur Villaschi I actually don't get atheists....like fine u don't believe in God....that's fine but you don't have to go on a mission to hate on people who do believe in God . some atheists literally have a personal grudge against God
Did sunny marry out of sikhi?
@@kurransingh7436 yes he is no longer a sikh
Fantastic !!! Pure Truth .....Bless You..
100% real talk..... people who chat shit they better understand at 1st place what chaar laavan meaning...
yeah and you better wash your mouth when speaking on such sacred things, respect the Guru
This was real talk. I feel a few points need to be addressed though. I hope these get covered.
1. Why has interfaith marriages been allowed to go on for so long? Is this change to back to the purist form going to be more detrimental to the Sikh sangat (I.e drop in visitors)
2. If the media reporting is true, and the protests have been blocked with intimidating practices (covering faces) how does this make us look? You cannot blame people for saying this is extremist behaviour. The counter argument cannot be that the media has misreported. There has to be an element of truth to this. How do you protest properly with decorum and allow innocent worshippers into house of God.
3. The point made is about a white person marrying in. Based on the 4 things you mentioned every Sikh should do to me says that even if your born a Sikh you shouldn't be allowed to do the Anand Karaj unless your Amrit shak. On that basis all weddings should be protested. It feels like double standards here and also feels like you get a free pass if your born Sikh.
your points are 100% true. all of them. The information in this video is one step in the right direction.
Sandeep
1. People were not aware of Sikh faith teachings pre-Internet era as they are now. Knowledge is multiplied now. Also outer-faith marriage and the insulting of the Anand karrage has had history of people protesting against it, cases from early as 1970s in Canada and USA. Even in 80s and 90s especially. Not new. Only it seems to be new because of more media highlights.
2. Whats so intimidating about covering your face? ALL types of peps who protest cover their face nowdays. Its the norm. If someone is scared of A Sikh chanting vaheguru with his/her face covered then its their own problem.
3. Most if not all Sikhs agree that non-baptized Sikhs have the same right as a baptized Sikh to have AK ceremony - plus some of the greatest Sikh historical figures were not baptized during their marriage (and even after)
Thank you jagraj for this message. Teaches me i got alot more to learn
Well said. I think that part of the trouble these days is that with everyone having access to an "instant audience" with various forms of social media, they are free to express their opinions & sometimes promote themselves as knowledgeable on various topics, when in reality they are far from knowledgeable or even qualified in the areas where they are making comments. And others reading those comments are often foolish enough to take those unknowledgeable comments to heart, as though they are true - instead of doing what they should really do, & go to someone who is properly qualified on the topic to seek their educated & qualified opinion. It just goes to show that one should never believe what one hears on social media, unless you know that it comes from a truly reliable, knowledgeable, & qualified source.
Bhenji I would go one step further and say that ideally, we should go to the source itself because even someone properly qualified can be biased or flat out wrong.
Bhai Jagrag Singh ji thanks for sharing truth . ❤
Just a question. What if someone wants to truly convert to Sikhi??? Is it okay then to be married in this way? Would this person be accepted into a Sikh family, even if they are not Indian??
yup may be .love matters
Thanks for your answers.
Anyone who is a Sikh (by choice) can get married as per Anand Kaaraj, regardless of their ethnicity
Khalsa Jagraj Singh ji, it seems you overcame all the 17 well known fallacies very quickly. Your intellect is absolutely pure. Pure like 24 karat gold. How long have you been reading Gurbani?
ur wrong ji, daas is full of gandh
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ! ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹਿ !! Thank you for confirming what I said is true.
ਆਪਸ ਕਉ ਜੋ ਜਾਣੈ ਨੀਚਾ ॥ ਸੋਊ ਗਨੀਐ ਸਭ ਤੇ ਊਚਾ ॥
There are hundreds of people who read Gurbani daily and still do not progress (or their progress is so slow that it is not noticeable). Please tell me how you progressed so quickly? What did you do differently? Khalsa ji please provide me a link if this has already been discussed in one of your videos. If no, then please answer.
Many thanks in advance
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ! ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹਿ !!
Mahavir Singh
Yes Bhaji! Right on point 🙏
on point!!!!
I read somewhere that the Guru Jis did not want their pictures to be hung on the walls and did not want heir biographies to be published or their pictures to be drawn as they did not want Sikhs to pray to pictures of them and further, they wanted us to follow SGGS Ji and not them specifically. So that the Shabad Guru (SGGS Ji) is above all. *This is not criticism; want to learn more about my faith.
No, we have to learn the stories of the Gurus and worship the Gurus, but through the shabad. We do follow the Gurus.
Good explanation God bless you and thanks
one of the best speeches from jagraj against fake modern sikhs trying to change sikhi according to their view not the guru and mahapurakhs more respect for those who accept they cant follow the guru and leave then those who stay but try to distort sikhi
Lofty words,, sweet taunts by Bhai sAhib
Hi Jagraj, can you please answer yet another question for me? As you know, I really want to take Amrit Sanchar one day soon, hopefully in 2017 , once I have completed your courses. I have come across some discussions on Sikhi websites that state that some Gurdwara leaders can deny you Amrit if your spouse will not take it as well. My spouse is Agnostic and will likely never convert to Sikhi, which makes me sad, but I am also a firm believer of Religion being a free choice. So is it true, that I may never be able to become an initiated Sikh due to this? I am feeling sad right now and hope someone can enlighten me as to this process, whether it is Gurbani based or just the choice of certain Elders. Thank you.
Bhenji, I wouldn't worry too much about that. That was a view adopted in the 18th Century which worked then as the whole family would take amrit. In todays world where people are so individualistic and Sikhi grows to new cultures, we have to go back to the original 1699 Amrit Sanchar where the Punj Piare were not asked to bring their wives on the stage as well
Thank you for this comment. I don't know why I never considered the original Panj Piare when they received the blessing of Amrit. It has cleared a massive misconception.
you donot worry about that, my brother is clean shaved but my sister in law is amrit thari. In the life after death you will be judged by only your good deeds. It will not be shared with other family members.
Hard hitting truth
really hit me with a curve ball with the story of guru ji burning them alive...
bhai ji what does gurbani say about revenge or punishment for example are the killings of criminal politicians by sikhs in the 70s 80s justified or any acts of revenge by the khalsa. is it right to end a life if you know if not stopped they will hurt or kill others in the future in case if police and the justice system have failed or turned the other cheek
karanveer brar It confused me. Maharaj said when all means fail it is righteous to draw the sword, thus I don't understand the use of capital punishment. Also when guru Amar Daas Ji was kicked by Dattu did they not say:" are you okay? I hope my old bones did not hurt your foot". Both of these examples, in my opinion contrast with the story Bhaj Jagraj Singh said. Definitely feel as tho I need more clarity on this to understand what maharaj meant.
YOU CANT understand sikhi with a few videos. You must put your questions on the back burner and read gurbani, study gurbani, and the fog will start to clear up. And by read gurbani I dont mean reading nitnem once and saying 'O i've read the nitnem gurbani' I mean dedicatingly every single day like a Sikh of the Guru.
This isn't an issue here in the USA yet but I generally agree that Anand Karaj should be for Sikhs only. What concerns me is that as Interfaith marriages continue to grow and since Sikhs are not inclined to ask someone to convert, those Sikhs who do marry outside the Panth will end up taking part in the marriage ceremony of another religion. This in turn could lead many of these Sikhs to have the mistaken perception that the Sikh faith does not welcome their partner which could shift their own religious identity to the faith ceremony in which they were wed.
I dont know any religion that allows ppl of other faiths to have a wedding. To have a nikkah, both parties must be Muslim, to marry in a Catholic church, both parties must be catholic. Maybe hindu mandirs and synagogues do allow interfaith marriage, im not sure.
H K Not true. A Catholic can marry a Protestant Christian (Baptist, Methodist, etc) without issue. A Catholic can also marry a non-Christian (Muslim, Sikh, etc) with a dispensation by their bishop. A Muslim man can have a Nikkah with a Christian or Jewish woman.
Unfortunately, we Sikhs don't have thousands of years of laws surrounding this issue. Its our generation that needs to solve it. I think in addition to stopping these marriage ceremonies we need to give non-Sikhs a "path to citizenship". If a Sehajdhari is entitled to Anand Karaj, how does a non-Sikh become a Sehajdhari? That could be the solution. Right now, we're putting up roadblocks without giving these couples another path.
Ah..thanks for clarifying it
veer ji Catholics can marry other faiths ONLY IF they get special dispensation , plus revow their loyalty to the catholic faith and vow to bring any kids up as Catholics
superbly said!
It would have been very nice to have met Jagraj Ji in person.
Waheguru ji
that's a problem if some followers of a tradition are just part because of family tradition and not because he for himself selected that path for him and than some so called Muslims Hindus Sikh Christians etc. comment others and don't now even there one tradition.
people are happy to get married in the Sikh tradition even if they don't believe in it.. They are moved by the spirit of the marriage and happy to love it .. This is what you have missed.
many Hindus and Muslim covered to Sikhism but even they were not given a test.. e.g Banda Singh bhadhur.
No
the reheat marada says a Sikh can only marry a Sikh. . But being a Sikh does not mean converting.. Sikhism is in the heart.
Sikh gurus told the Sikh nation that we must put spirituality first.. hence the harm and harmandir sahib is built taller than the akal takth.
Only if the non Sikh can show they accept Sikh values in their heart and possibly do a test there is no issue.
But a Sikh marrying a non Sikh willy nilly with no understanding should not be allowed.
The test it self should be a personal matter and the congregation should not test them..
Who will create and write the test.. ? And yes it should be conducted in the true spirit of the khalsa.. With optimism love and compassion and should include reference to all jathi bandhis that are ordained.
The test is taking amrit and starting by reading nitnem gurbani daily, that is the test.
You need to do a lot more if you take amrit my son.
The test should be simple like the Jewish test.. But more friendly
ਜੱਗ ਮਹਿ ੳਤੱਮ ਕਾਢੀਅਹਿ ਵਿਰਲੇ ਕੇੲੀ ਕੇ 🙏
Veer ji , the masands that were killed weren't they punished also for murdering Baba Ram Rai ? (suraj prakash) His Bhabi ji Mata Punjab Kaur ji came and asked Guru Pita ji for justice as they had burnt Baba ji's deh whilst he had left his body during meditation.
The followers of Ram Rai who burnt his body were not Masands, they were tankhayi for following Ram Rai.
all Ram Raiya and Dhir Malia are tankiyah , but I was wondering if this was the same incident because in suraj parkash the punishment was similar .
paji ik wari poora parchar punjabi ch karna you are good
veerji one of my friend gave me LSD I'm a Sikh my life has taken a u turn I see ppl spiting next to me there are making weird faces my all friends they left me I have lost my Sikh identity my brothers showed me khalistan videos on top of that m getting suicidal thoughts
plz help me to come out of this it's a very shameful thing m getting spirituality thoughts no1 is liking me plz help me I don't wantu become baba
just go to local gurudwara and do seva daily there of any form daily and try to read as many explnations of guru granth sahib words
there r videos on utube for that even english translations.
and remember some people have more worse lives than u and they still live and follow spirituality
remember if there is a bad phase in life so will be a good one strive for it
Do you know about Rababi Kirtanis? They are muslims they don't change their faith to Sikhi yet they sing Kirtan in Guru's darbar. If that is not against Sikhi then tell me how can a non sikh having lavaan fere be against Sikh Dharam. What I can make out from your analogy is for anyone to come under the umbrella of Guru Granth Sahibji Maharaj (our present living Guru) he will have to change his existing faith. And then you cry for being targeted for being a fanatic, let me ask why not? When Kashmiri pundits came to Guru Teg bahadur did he asked them to change their faith into Sikhi, they literally came begging for their lives.. and look how our great guru reciprocated without imposing any condition. Stop preaching such views. Such ideas like your will just limit Sikhi in it's scope.
***** You proved my point only, research and see that rababis are doing kirtans since the time of Guru Nanak and they don't change their faith, they remain Muslims and Sikhs have supported them throughout. So by your logic we were doing a sin till date by ignoring them for so long, isn't it?
Gurdit Singh Sir, what I wanted to say was coming in Guruji's sharan and not going empty handed and on one side you have people like Jagraj Singh saying, we must stop them.. Yes of course the basic difference remain between the two things (Kirtan and Lava Fere) but I was talking about the Spirit behind it that is to not refuse anyone.
***** kop Singhji, Sat Sri akal.. Stop assuming first of all who I am? Come to the point, I request you to not be harsh towards me personally but keep your criticism upto the discussion. Tell me a simple thing, If kirtan can be performed by other faith's people, what is the harm in allowing such marriages, we can allow in exceptional cases.. As I replied to Gudit Singhji the spirit behind the Sikh panth is not to say no who comes under Guruji's sharan, So if a couple wants to tie their knot in Gurudwara why to refuse them.. If Kirtan can be done by non Sikh.. this is hypocrisy then
***** Tell me veerji, who is a Sikh? I guess then someone who gets officially baptised and becomes Amrtidhari. You are making everyone a Sikh who is born in a Sikh family then, they might be over powered by Panj Vikaar and lot of Hankaar, yet we consider them as Sikh because just they are born in Sikh families? Is this the right parameter to judge? If those Sikhs are really Sikhs (just externally) and on the top we have trends like Hindus and Muslims doing Kirtans why such a fuss over marriages in Gurdwaras of people of other faiths?
Gurdit Singh Tell me sir do those Sikhs who are just by birth Sikhs on paper, really stick to the vow made in front of Guruji at the time of Anand karaj? As I asked above, how will you judge a person is actually a Sikh or not? Just by Birth Certificate or by deeds? Saying that only Sikhs are allowed, we are just sticking to external symbolism going against the basic precept "Manas ki Jaat sabhie ek pehchaanbo".. When Guruji doesn't make a difference how can we make it with our limited intellect as compared to our great guru
I'm not very intelligent or knowledgeable but from my whole experience and understanding of our Gurus, it is hard for me to believe the sakhi about Guru Gobind Singh Ji and capital punishment! It doesn't make sense! Could you further elaborate because in my opinion from what guru ji has said and done, capital punishment is against SIKHI!!
This isn't a sakhi that Jagraj Singh made up. You don't need to believe it to be true. If you care enough to learn more, the means for you to do so are AVAILABLE. But let me ask you, why are you even fighting with your mind? If you after studying history, you realize you can now believe this sakhi, ask yourself, what will it change for you, about you?
1jz r154 I'm not looking for an argument and that is why I tried to kindly get a reply instead of just writing something like, hey you're wrong because the story is not right!' What you are saying is either you want me to assume everything paji says is true or just call him a liar because either that or I am lying. The truth is everyone is taught differently from different paths. If you believe something which is not the truth, it doesn't make you a liar, it just means you are mislead. I am just posting an opinion/question about what paji said because I disagree.
1jz r154 and by the way, I'm not arguing with my own mind but in my opinion, what guru ji teaches as a whole is against capital punishment.
i think this sakhi illustrates that capital punishment can only be used on ppl who systematically oppress the weak and/or those that used the gurus name to loot, rob and oppress ppl.and despite warnings these ppl did not desist and continued it for years. also this decision can only be taken by the guru/guru khalsa.
H K Of course if the problem is continuous and after trying all other means to stop the issue, then it is ok... Sound like anything to you? "When all other means fail, then it is righteous to hold the sword in the hand" I agree Guru ji says when you have tried everything to stop criminals but they still don't listen, then you can use force. That is why pita ji had to fight in many wars! However, committing one crime I don't think deserves death. Just a long jail sentence. And torture is out of the question.
appalled at the negativity in this lecture
donot be surprise by that because, thats what the job of billions of muslim out there, talk negative about all the religion
You go on for roughly 10 minutes about how people on the internet haven't read the relevant texts regarding Sikhism and yet you have not really given a clear list of what should be read. Please can you do that. Also you are very dismissive about the intellectual understanding you can gain from the internet and yet you are using it as a platform to preach what you understand as Sikhism. This sort of hypocrisy made this video almost unwatchable for me which I have found very sad. As someone who has been raised as a Sikh I feel more and more removed from Sikhism because of the way it has started to be preached in Britain.
Bhenji, if you watch the video again, you will see that the focus is on Guru Granth Sahib ji and the various explanations of Gurbani in either textual or audio format (katha). Most of the people commenting on Sikhi nowadays have neither understood Gurbani or listened to explanations of it. We do use the internet but we spend a lot of time putting the Gurbani into the videos so that they people watching know that we are not giving just our views but the views of Gurbani.
Sikhism is so simple , I don't understand how you are confused. Pick any guthka and read all the banis and understand it, so simple. The translation is available on internet. You should definitely read about the life of baba nanak dev ji and the miracles he performed.
do u even believe in guru gobind singh ji ????
on point!!!!
on point!!!!