LOL! Exactly. It's so hypocritical how may seem to overlook the bitchy behavior of Katharine and Bette Davis, but then they marvel and chastise Joan Crawford (child abuse "claims" put to the side) for her bitchy ways.
@@ADawg3 In reference to Katherine, Just because you are stand offish does not make you bitchy.....theres a difference. Alot of people said she was a nice person she just wasnt immediately friendly or talkative to people. She had to feel you out first. This tells me she was probably shy or an introvert.
@@TheBraveIntrovert I don't know a lot about Katherine as I am only a minor fan. But this account by Lucy, an interview by Jane Fonda with Marlo Thomas who mention that they didn't think Katherine liked many people (including Jane) and comments by Bette Davis (not the greatest source) is where I get this opinion. Maybe difficult is a better word. However this can come across as bitchy to others. It's not uncommon for people that reach that level of success to be full of themselves at times. It's not a knock to her or her talent.
Many people don't know that Ms. Ball was a quiet powerhouse herself. She ran her own Studio, Desilu. And Desilu gave us shows like Star Trek. A Fantastic Woman.
Those Paramount $🐮s wouldn't exist without Lucy signing off on them, they were the 2 most expensive pilots @ the time & Trek had to be shot twice, NBC refused original (how we ended up with full Shat Capt. Kirk, Hunter refused to return & was killed a few years later, possibly from on-set accident). ST producer tells story of being distracted en route to wrap party, Lucy was sweeping, saying, "Oh, I hate for anyone to miss the wrap party!" MTM talks about working on DVD Show @ Desilu & hearing her boss laughing from the rafters, both were unknowns who would own their own studios.
Lucy’s impression of Hepburn is hysterical and spot on but no one does Katharine better than Katharine. I imagine Hepburn was dismissive towards a lot of women in Hollywood. She was just in a category all her own.
I remember a Bette Davis impersonator, Barbara Heller, was on a talk show and the host asked her if she saw a recent interview Bette Davis did, and Heller replied: "Yes I did. And I thought she did a BAD Bette!"
But a great star hasn’t to be a superior diva. She was a great actress, but I don’t think that Katherine Hepburn was nice to work with. Especially not for other women. I haven’t heard anyone say that they liked to work with Katherine Hepburn.
@@craigjb8740Stage Door, they started work together @ RKO, Hepburn would tank her career & have to return to the stage to recover, after getting admirer Howard Hughes to buy The Philadelphia Story for her & her MGM comeback.
Without Love is a great movie and Lucy and Katherine did a great job. I still remember a scene where someone asks Lucy "Dinner tonight?" Her answer was "I wouldn't wonder". I still love the first scene where a drunk guy says to Spencer Tracy "Let's not be stupid, shall we."
From what I've read Katharine Hepburn was essentially a shy person around groups of people. Even in live performances. She was a shy person that way her whole life. She was not a snob. It was her way of protecting herself. As late as when Dick Cavett interviewed her for one of his shows her stipulation was that there would be no audience. I think her standoffishness on set was also part of this. I love Lucille Ball but I think straight out she didnt understand Katharine Hepburn but then many people didn't and still don't. She had bravado but she was intensely shy. It was the way she handled things to put up a brusque exterior. This is my own opinion but I think there is some reference to this in her autobiography. She loved the camera and acted to the camera. I think she might have also been trying on set to keep the atmosphere of her role around her, not to lose that. There are many notable actors who have done that.
Yes. It's called being a professional. Ms. Hepburn was there to work, and work she did. She realized that the success of her films hinged on her work and she was loath to put her name to anything shoddy or second-rate. Work was the course of an ordinary day for Ms. Hepburn. She didn't waste a minute and she didn't suffer fools.
I think you have the basic introvert vs extrovert thing happening. I think Katherine Hepburn was basically an introvert and not a people person. Lucille Ball was an extrovert who loved being around people (and making them laugh)
@@megc1981 I think you're on the right track but, introverts are people persons, just in a different way. This is a good overview: th-cam.com/video/acg6HivAu5E/w-d-xo.html
Miss Lucille Ball was a GREAT, GREAT ACTRESS!... And the way she speak about Miss Hepburn HAVE LOTS OF FUN!...I read that they are thinking (the familly) on doing a BIOPIC...With Miss Cate Blanchett as "LUCILLE BALL" ... I wait to see if it is true!...
First of all, let me just say, I've seen the movie many times, and I must say I have never seen so Reading in all my life. But I will say this Katherine Hepburn was a very, very good actress one of best, she was also very confused, arrogant, and had know use for anyone who she saw as threat. Ginger Rodgers was her fear. If know one agrees just take a look at a rare interview with her on the Dick Cavette Show.
You're absolutely correct. I've studied this woman for many years and admire her in many respects. However, The Cavett interview was very disappointing and off-putting (RE: specifically her archaic and frankly off the wall views on gay people and society) She really was the walking personification of EGO. Another lady I studied for years was Bette Davis (absolute delight)... Bette was a huge Kate fan and she said that for years she searched for just the right script for a film that she and Kate could do together..but whenever she sent things to Hepburn, they were simply ignored. So yes, you're right... Kate avoided those that she saw as a threat like the plague. Katharine was a fascinating but flawed individual (...but then, most of us are)
@@professornuke7562Bacall's voice had to be trained when she arrived as teenager in Hollywood, to be "sultry", decades later she would win 2 Tonys for musicals, decade apart, not bad for someone who started as theatre usher.
Lucy may have had a few movies under her belt but she was a TV star whereas Katharine was a movie star who still has the record of winning the most Academy Awards for Best Actress.
That may be true, but only because of the enduring popularity of I Love Lucy. Katharine pretty much started at the top whereas Lucille scratched her way up. She made more pictures before I❤L than Hepburn did in total..
@@trudygreer2491Hepburn might have gotten the Oscars but Lucy was way more popular, more famous, way wealthier and ultimately a much more important name in show business for being the first woman to head a studio and for producing Star Trek, The Untouchables and her own television series.
@@jennyzarate7086 wrong again. I Love Lucy is *still* being rerun in several countries. I Love Lucy has been dubbed into twenty-two languages and seen in eighty countries.
Acting is a job and like any other job, some people who do it are nice and some are not. I used to be a camera assistant in Hollywood. All that really matters for actors is what winds up captured on film. From the old days, Barbara Stanwyck was supposed to be very popular with cast and crew - real down to earth. A good friend of mine worked on Murder, She Wrote for a couple of seasons and said Angela Lansbury was adored by everyone. But having a warm, open personality is not really in the job description.
William Powell talked about the response Myrna Loy got from crew upon returning to do another Thin Man, she worked @ MGM for a decade & was beloved, how many people were friends with Davis AND Crawford? Decades later she would work in television again with former co-stars Douglas & Wright.
I used to like Katharine Hepburn until I heard her instructions to Anthony Hopkins, on how to act in a movie they were both in. Catherine was the veteran in the movie, and Anthony Hopkins was the newbie. supposedly it went like this she told Hopkins who was obviously nervous to stop trying to act, and just say the lines.. sounds simple enough. but when I watch a Katharine Hepburn movie, it doesn’t matter if it’s one of the old ones, or one of newer ones, I can hear that that is all she is doing is “just saying the lines” as a result, it doesn’t matter which of her movies, I am watching, her character never changes. It’s always the same person, saying lines, and that’s all. her method certainly is not like Brando or Lon Chaney, or Johnny Depp, or even Olivier. so hearing her acting advice that she gave to Anthony Hopkins, his forever ruined all of Katherine Hepburn‘s movies for me. Because I can see and hear all she is doing is saying the lines. Only the costumes change.
The movie is The Lion In Winter. If you haven't seen it, you really should, even if you have an aversion to Hepburn's acting. It also features Peter O'Toole and a very young Timothy Dalton
I always have cold and a bit depressive feeling when I watch Katherine Hapburn, I hate that kind of people,they are seemingly superior and perfect but actually sterile and rigid,I like tough people but not people with superiority complex,they are pathetic.
@R.J Anthony If don't think she was beyond anything,just a cold person,that's it, usually people who feel ashamed of something act like that,plus there are terrible behind the scene stories about her,being insufferable.Not talking about her acting abilities.
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I believe the rumor. I read her autobiography “Love, Lucy”, and I can understand why she was cheap. When she was younger, there was a little boy that had an accident on her family’s property, and the little boy’s family sued them. Her family lost nearly everything in the lawsuit.
She wasn't stand off-ish. She was gay. She was very aware that some people could be a threat because of her sexuality. Same with her close friend Spencer Tracy.
In addition to everything pointed out already, her very deep voice is also the result of projecting improperly to a studio audience at a higher pitch than she was comfortable with. For Lucy Ricardo, Lucy chose to speak in a higher, more childlike voice than her own but, due to her lack of formal stage training, did not do so in a healthy or sustainable way. Note how often she is noticeably losing her voice in the later seasons of The Lucy Show.
Mike, Hi Mike, I knew Kate certainly had no warmth, but Lucy too. Had I met both in the street at different times and I asked Kate for an autograph I would be willing to bet she would tell me to go to hell. I have more important things to do with my time. But would Lucy do the same?
Sure I get all that ...the " man is commanding - a woman is demanding. a man is forceful - a woman is pushy" thing .... but where is it written that being a trailblazer and successful is synonymous with being a bitch?
Hey Robert ... that's an interesting question. I remember working for American Airlines and legend had it that Lucy was so rude and out of control (on TWA before AA bought them) that she was banned. I always wondered if it was true. I don't want to think so.
Mike, Hi Mike, I did not know Lucy or Kate and honestly I never read to much about Lucy being nasty probably because I was never a big Lucy fan. Kate I had read some things that she was very outspoken and rude. Barbara Walters interviewed Kate and Barbara said some time after the interview Kate said to Barbara, okay you have to leave now. You worked for American Airlines and you heard Lucy was so rude and out of control that she was banned, I believe you. Similar to Zsa Zsa Gabor on Delta. Thanks for the info Mike. Have a good night. I happened to be on you-tube the other night and I clicked on the video of Lucy mocking Kate with the mouth and the eyes and I was killing myself laughing. Then I scrolled down and read the comments. I have watched the Lucy video several times and still laugh at her. To be honest with you, Ethel (Vivian Vance) was my favorite on I Love Lucy.
I agree with everything you said, and please don't misunderstand ... I adored KH and loved Lucy ... I've just always found it interesting that in real life, they were very different than what characters were famous for portraying,
Frankly, I think Katherine Hepburn was overrated. The only film I really liked her in was the African Queen. In most other films, she basically played the same character, and without much emotion. Lucy, on the other hand, was very talented, very funny, and VERY smart. Desi Arnaz was very smart as well. They broke a lot of new ground in television.
You need to watch Suddenly Last Summer and Long Day's Journey Into Night. Kate plays a woman losing her mind in the first and a morphine addict in the second. Absolutely brilliant in both.
I think Lucy was tough more than she was not nice. She was way ahead of her time as a studio executive, and as a woman back then, she had to be tough to be taken seriously. She also got frustrated with her son Desi Jr with some of the poor choices that he made in partners and some aspects of his life, and of course, Desi was cheating on her constantly.
You have a whole different set of priorities when you grow up in wealth and comforts excellence is expected and even cherished.Good for her guess she was to dumm to do anything else acting is hard work.....
Kathleen Carter Steeves I just read a biography about Hepburn that I got from one of those little free libraries around town ( title: Katherine Hepburn/author ? Year pub. 2005?) She wasn't my favorite actress from the past (athough The African Queen is one of greatest films ever, imo, her & Bogey's performances, Husten's direction and the story itself, are magnificent & unforgettable!) but, I knew it would be really interesting, after all, she is an acting icon. Well, after learning that at the tender age of 13 or 14 (?) she discovered her beloved 16/17 year old brother hanging in an attic, dead from suicide, and about her extremely unconventional, especially for those times, accomplished parents, in particularly her Mother's traumatic childhood & amazing strength and resolve, I have a much deeper respect for her as a person who did things on her own terms and was very successful doing it (except, perhaps, in her love life, although her past undoubtedly affected her impossible choices). There was a tragic history of multiple suicides on both sides of her recent family tree, a hidden, unspoken secret shame to be hidden at all costs, especially back then. This was the first K.H. biography that researched extensively voluminous documents from her family's history, with Hepburn's approval & permission. The author worked closely with Kate herself, & interviewed surviving family members and close friends of the actress. Being born into wealth was not the reason she was successful. She just wouldn't give up, no matter how disparaging the critics were, and they were often VERY harsh, regarding more than a few of her many acting roles on the Broadway stage & on film. Her surgeon father & mother WORKED their way into the upper middle class during K.H.'s youth. Her life story illustrates how obtaining higher education & financial security, career success, and fame, of course, is no guarantee of having a pain-free life. That certainly wasn't the case for Katherine Hepburn & her family. I highly recommend that biography, whether one is a K.H. fan or not, it was fascinating & engrossing...
Katharine Hepburn first wanted to be a surgeon like her father. She certainly wasn't too dumb to do anything else, she thought acting was a good choice after being in plays while she was in college. She joked about acting being an easy profession saying Shirley Temple had been doing it since she was four years old.
@@d.dedrick7991 Tom Hepburn was 15 when he died and Katharine was 13. Her family thought his death was probably caused by him imitating an actor he saw on stage pretending to be hung. The press's story of it being a suicide is thought to be a main reason Hepburn didn't want anything to do with them after that.
Katherine Hepburn had a face that would stop a clock. And she couldn't act. She was BORING! As Dorothy Parker said, “Miss Hepburn ran the whole gamut of emotions-from A to B.” She is to acting what "Citizen Kane" is to directing. People are SUPPOSED to love Citizen Kane because it shows how high-toned they are. But it is a terrible, boring movie that audiences hated (and still hate). Hepburn was the same. People are supposed to love her acting because that shows how high-toned they are. But she couldn't act, and audiences HATED her. She was box-office poison -- for good reason.
@@nealsims8372 I happen to agree with the PEOPLE who watched her movies when they were released -- not the critics. You may have noticed that often an actor or a movie gets high acclaim from the critics when the people say they stink. This is because if critics like things that are objectively good, they are no longer "special." So they show how highbrow they are by claiming to like things that are absolute rubbish. The critics have ALWAYS liked Hepburn. But the people knew her real worth, and the ONLY way they would watch one of her movies was when it had real stars (like Cary Grant or Spencer Tracy) that would make the movie enjoyable. Furthermore, Hepburn KNEW that.
@@gracianomaso3333 She was box office poison. Critics loved to show how sophisticated they were by praising her ability. But people stayed away from her pictures in droves because she stank as an actress. Her hits were films she did with people like Cary Grant - great actors who people wanted to see enough that they would tolerate her.
@@CanadianMonarchistNOT Lucy! Apparently Hepburn ran in a panic away from John Barrymore on her 1st film, declaring, "My father (a doctor) doesn't want me to have babies!"
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"Not at all stand-offish with us. She just ignored the whole set." Lol.
LOL! Exactly. It's so hypocritical how may seem to overlook the bitchy behavior of Katharine and Bette Davis, but then they marvel and chastise Joan Crawford (child abuse "claims" put to the side) for her bitchy ways.
Great imitation Lucy. Mouth and all.
@@ADawg3 In reference to Katherine, Just because you are stand offish does not make you bitchy.....theres a difference. Alot of people said she was a nice person she just wasnt immediately friendly or talkative to people. She had to feel you out first. This tells me she was probably shy or an introvert.
@@TheBraveIntrovert I don't know a lot about Katherine as I am only a minor fan. But this account by Lucy, an interview by Jane Fonda with Marlo Thomas who mention that they didn't think Katherine liked many people (including Jane) and comments by Bette Davis (not the greatest source) is where I get this opinion. Maybe difficult is a better word. However this can come across as bitchy to others. It's not uncommon for people that reach that level of success to be full of themselves at times. It's not a knock to her or her talent.
She was a narcissist.
Many people don't know that Ms. Ball was a quiet powerhouse herself. She ran her own Studio, Desilu. And Desilu gave us shows like Star Trek. A Fantastic Woman.
Those Paramount $🐮s wouldn't exist without Lucy signing off on them, they were the 2 most expensive pilots @ the time & Trek had to be shot twice, NBC refused original (how we ended up with full Shat Capt. Kirk, Hunter refused to return & was killed a few years later, possibly from on-set accident). ST producer tells story of being distracted en route to wrap party, Lucy was sweeping, saying, "Oh, I hate for anyone to miss the wrap party!" MTM talks about working on DVD Show @ Desilu & hearing her boss laughing from the rafters, both were unknowns who would own their own studios.
and katharine's brownie recipe is still the best in the world. she was rightfully very proud of her brownies.
She was a woman of class. A no-nonsense person.
I will always admire her!
I love Lucy. I can't stop laughing.
Lucy does a great Katharine Hepburn impression ! 😂😂😂
I laughed loud when she did it!!!
Love Lucy's candor!
Brent Edwards, I agree. I keep watching it and crack up laughing. When Lucy starts with the imitation, she carries it on for awhile. To funny.
Yes, too funny!
Lucy’s impression of Hepburn is hysterical and spot on but no one does Katharine better than Katharine. I imagine Hepburn was dismissive towards a lot of women in Hollywood. She was just in a category all her own.
Martin Short does a perfect Katharine Hepburn.
@@markherring3513 there’s an SNL clip of Martin spoofing Hepburn right down to the hair and the mannerisms!
I remember a Bette Davis impersonator, Barbara Heller, was on a talk show and
the host asked her if she saw a recent interview Bette Davis did, and Heller replied:
"Yes I did. And I thought she did a BAD Bette!"
Isn't Lucy just lovely.
My Mom looked so much like Katharine Hepburn that people would ask her for her autograph.
Picture?????????
I love this story. It gives a glimpse of how Kate was with on the set. Kate really was a star at higher level even to other stars.
ocwaveoc69 sounds like she aced that way toward others...superior...
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But a great star hasn’t to be a superior diva. She was a great actress, but I don’t think that Katherine Hepburn was nice to work with. Especially not for other women. I haven’t heard anyone say that they liked to work with Katherine Hepburn.
So Kate was on Lucy?
@@craigjb8740Stage Door, they started work together @ RKO, Hepburn would tank her career & have to return to the stage to recover, after getting admirer Howard Hughes to buy The Philadelphia Story for her & her MGM comeback.
Without Love is a great movie and Lucy and Katherine did a great job. I still remember a scene where someone asks Lucy "Dinner tonight?" Her answer was "I wouldn't wonder". I still love the first scene where a drunk guy says to Spencer Tracy "Let's not be stupid, shall we."
I just rewatched "Without Love." Lucy looked lovely and was a great character in it. Lucy and Katharine together = amazing!
Thank you for posting!
her imitation is hilarious, i wish the entire interview was available! if it is will someone please tell me
The Leo shaaaade of it all-LMAO!!!
You were a knockout, too, Lucille Ball!
“She ignored the whole set” tells us all about Hepburn
Hepburn was likely the smartest & best of Hollywood so yes it tells a lot. Hepburn didn't take crap or put on fake BS.
@@myles8366 I’d say Bette Davis.
@@myles8366 That doesn't give you reason to ignore others. She wasn't the only professional in the room.
Certainly not in the cast of Stage Door.
Lucille Ball often gave great interviews. She had interesting stories to tell.
I loved Lucy!!!❤❤❤❤❤
I love Lucy! 😂💖
From what I've read Katharine Hepburn was essentially a shy person around groups of people. Even in live performances. She was a shy person that way her whole life. She was not a snob. It was her way of protecting herself. As late as when Dick Cavett interviewed her for one of his shows her stipulation was that there would be no audience. I think her standoffishness on set was also part of this. I love Lucille Ball but I think straight out she didnt understand Katharine Hepburn but then many people didn't and still don't. She had bravado but she was intensely shy. It was the way she handled things to put up a brusque exterior. This is my own opinion but I think there is some reference to this in her autobiography. She loved the camera and acted to the camera. I think she might have also been trying on set to keep the atmosphere of her role around her, not to lose that. There are many notable actors who have done that.
Yes. It's called being a professional. Ms. Hepburn was there to work, and work she did. She realized that the success of her films hinged on her work and she was loath to put her name to anything shoddy or second-rate. Work was the course of an ordinary day for Ms. Hepburn. She didn't waste a minute and she didn't suffer fools.
Shyness most likely had to do with concealing her sexuality.
I think you have the basic introvert vs extrovert thing happening.
I think Katherine Hepburn was basically an introvert and not a people person.
Lucille Ball was an extrovert who loved being around people (and making them laugh)
@@megc1981
I think you're on the right track but, introverts are people persons, just in a different way. This is a good overview:
th-cam.com/video/acg6HivAu5E/w-d-xo.html
@@megc1981Lucy began as model & showgirl, she had to WORK @ being funny & learned from masters after 2 decades in movies.
That is just hilarious
Miss Lucille Ball was a GREAT, GREAT ACTRESS!... And the way she speak about Miss Hepburn HAVE LOTS OF FUN!...I read that they are thinking (the familly) on doing a BIOPIC...With Miss Cate Blanchett as "LUCILLE BALL" ... I wait to see if it is true!...
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First of all, let me just say, I've seen the movie many times, and I must say I have never seen so Reading in all my life. But I will say this Katherine Hepburn was a very, very good actress one of best, she was also very confused, arrogant, and had know use for anyone who she saw as threat. Ginger Rodgers was her fear. If know one agrees just take a look at a rare interview with her on the Dick Cavette Show.
You're absolutely correct. I've studied this woman for many years and admire her in many respects. However, The Cavett interview was very disappointing and off-putting (RE: specifically her archaic and frankly off the wall views on gay people and society) She really was the walking personification of EGO. Another lady I studied for years was Bette Davis (absolute delight)... Bette was a huge Kate fan and she said that for years she searched for just the right script for a film that she and Kate could do together..but whenever she sent things to Hepburn, they were simply ignored. So yes, you're right... Kate avoided those that she saw as a threat like the plague. Katharine was a fascinating but flawed individual (...but then, most of us are)
50 years of smoking. Listen to Lucy's voice.
Same with Katherine, and Bacall.
@@professornuke7562Bacall's voice had to be trained when she arrived as teenager in Hollywood, to be "sultry", decades later she would win 2 Tonys for musicals, decade apart, not bad for someone who started as theatre usher.
@@unowen-nh9ov I had the good fortune to see her in Tennessee Williams Sweet Bird of Youth here in Melbourne Australia in 1981.
that was great, i 've never seen that before
I think Lucille ended up being more famous than Hepburn.
Lucy may have had a few movies under her belt but she was a TV star whereas Katharine was a movie star who still has the record of winning the most Academy Awards for Best Actress.
That may be true, but only because of the enduring popularity of I Love Lucy. Katharine pretty much started at the top whereas Lucille scratched her way up. She made more pictures before I❤L than Hepburn did in total..
@@trudygreer2491Hepburn might have gotten the Oscars but Lucy was way more popular, more famous, way wealthier and ultimately a much more important name in show business for being the first woman to head a studio and for producing Star Trek, The Untouchables and her own television series.
Not worldwide, at least in south America people are more familiar with hepburn's movies.
@@jennyzarate7086 wrong again. I Love Lucy is *still* being rerun in several countries. I Love Lucy has been dubbed into twenty-two languages and seen in eighty countries.
I LOVE LUCY
Audrey Hepburn won 4 Oscar s!so she was a great actress!
I love Lucy 🥰 but I adore Katharine Hepburn she was the epitome of a mega film, a complete queen and 💯 the crème de la crème
Her Hepburn voice and impression were dead-on! A bit strange actually, to hear Hepburn's voice coming out of Lucy's mouth.
The way Lucy did her mouth while doing it was hilarious.
KATHARINE PLAYED EVERY CHARACTER THE SAME WAY... JUST BEING HERSELF. SMUG AND ENTITLED.
Her imitation sounds more like Talullah than Katherine.
People are fascinating.
Acting is a job and like any other job, some people who do it are nice and some are not. I used to be a camera assistant in Hollywood. All that really matters for actors is what winds up captured on film.
From the old days, Barbara Stanwyck was supposed to be very popular with cast and crew - real down to earth. A good friend of mine worked on Murder, She Wrote for a couple of seasons and said Angela Lansbury was adored by everyone. But having a warm, open personality is not really in the job description.
William Powell talked about the response Myrna Loy got from crew upon returning to do another Thin Man, she worked @ MGM for a decade & was beloved, how many people were friends with Davis AND Crawford? Decades later she would work in television again with former co-stars Douglas & Wright.
Hilarious!
I used to like Katharine Hepburn until I heard her instructions to Anthony Hopkins, on how to act in a movie they were both in. Catherine was the veteran in the movie, and Anthony Hopkins was the newbie.
supposedly it went like this
she told Hopkins who was obviously nervous to stop trying to act, and just say the lines..
sounds simple enough.
but when I watch a Katharine Hepburn movie, it doesn’t matter if it’s one of the old ones, or one of newer ones, I can hear that that is all she is doing is “just saying the lines”
as a result, it doesn’t matter which of her movies, I am watching, her character never changes. It’s always the same person, saying lines, and that’s all.
her method certainly is not like Brando or Lon Chaney, or Johnny Depp, or even Olivier.
so hearing her acting advice that she gave to Anthony Hopkins, his forever ruined all of Katherine Hepburn‘s movies for me. Because I can see and hear all she is doing is saying the lines. Only the costumes change.
The movie is The Lion In Winter. If you haven't seen it, you really should, even if you have an aversion to Hepburn's acting. It also features Peter O'Toole and a very young Timothy Dalton
I would be terrified of Katharine Hepburn as well. She was an amazing actress.
Not standoffish .... she ignored the whole set !
KATHARINE WAS A S N O B.
Well, real or not, they had great chemistry and I could see it in their movies. I've never seen anything like it in real life.
How many scenes did they ever play together?
I always have cold and a bit depressive feeling when I watch Katherine Hapburn, I hate that kind of people,they are seemingly superior and perfect but actually sterile and rigid,I like tough people but not people with superiority complex,they are pathetic.
@R.J Anthony If don't think she was beyond anything,just a cold person,that's it, usually people who feel ashamed of something act like that,plus there are terrible behind the scene stories about her,being insufferable.Not talking about her acting abilities.
"...not at all standoffuish, she just ignored the whole set..." seems like a rather contradictory statement...
I always thought that Hepburn overacted. To me she was more suited to do Shakespeare. I liked her in Desk Set but I cant watch her in Little Women
It was rumored that Ms Ball was very cheap back when she had money! 😱😱
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I believe the rumor. I read her autobiography “Love, Lucy”, and I can understand why she was cheap. When she was younger, there was a little boy that had an accident on her family’s property, and the little boy’s family sued them. Her family lost nearly everything in the lawsuit.
I never liked Katherine Hepburn, although I must say Lucy's imitation was impressive.
Me niether. I found her irritating to watch.
Joshua Taylor, I agree with you and Shay Duncan. I never liked Katherine Hepburn either.
neither did i after seeing her in person with that god-awful hair
She was a genius. Watch Long Days Journey Into Night, her greatest performance, or The Lion In Winter, one of the best scripts ever written.
She wasn't stand off-ish. She was gay. She was very aware that some people could be a threat because of her sexuality. Same with her close friend Spencer Tracy.
How do you know that? Were you friends with her?
LoL
Wow Lucy's real voice is much deeper than I was expecting, unless it's just a result of age.
Smokes
@@num1Jaysta Chesterfields to be exact.
@@MrStinker4 Don't forget the diet of vodka tonics.
In addition to everything pointed out already, her very deep voice is also the result of projecting improperly to a studio audience at a higher pitch than she was comfortable with. For Lucy Ricardo, Lucy chose to speak in a higher, more childlike voice than her own but, due to her lack of formal stage training, did not do so in a healthy or sustainable way. Note how often she is noticeably losing her voice in the later seasons of The Lucy Show.
Ciggies and booze.
I think that movie stars were a bit too full of themselves from the 1940s and 1950s.
I think movie stars from every era are a bit too full of themselves.
I always wanted to be Katherine Hepburn but from what I have read about yer, not a popular personl
Both great talents, but neither the Great Kate or Lucille Ball were exactly known for their warmth.
Mike, Hi Mike, I knew Kate certainly had no warmth, but Lucy too. Had I met both in the street at different times and I asked Kate for an autograph I would be willing to bet she would tell me to go to hell. I have more important things to do with my time. But would Lucy do the same?
Sure I get all that ...the " man is commanding - a woman is demanding.
a man is forceful - a woman is pushy" thing .... but where is it written that being a trailblazer and successful is synonymous with being a bitch?
Hey Robert ... that's an interesting question. I remember working for American Airlines and legend had it that Lucy was so rude and out of control (on TWA before AA bought them) that she was banned. I always wondered if it was true. I don't want to think so.
Mike, Hi Mike, I did not know Lucy or Kate and honestly I never read to much about Lucy being nasty probably because I was never a big Lucy fan. Kate I had read some things that she was very outspoken and rude. Barbara Walters interviewed Kate and Barbara said some time after the interview Kate said to Barbara, okay you have to leave now. You worked for American Airlines and you heard Lucy was so rude and out of control that she was banned, I believe you. Similar to Zsa Zsa Gabor on Delta. Thanks for the info Mike. Have a good night. I happened to be on you-tube the other night and I clicked on the video of Lucy mocking Kate with the mouth and the eyes and I was killing myself laughing. Then I scrolled down and read the comments. I have watched the Lucy video several times and still laugh at her. To be honest with you, Ethel (Vivian Vance) was my favorite on I Love Lucy.
I agree with everything you said, and please don't misunderstand ... I adored KH and loved Lucy ... I've just always found it interesting that in real life, they were very different than what characters were famous for portraying,
i heard she was a lesbian....or at least bi 🤨
Katharine was rumoured to be bisexual. I don’t think there is any definitive evidence.
And?….what’s your point?
Frankly, I think Katherine Hepburn was overrated. The only film I really liked her in was the African Queen. In most other films, she basically played the same character, and without much emotion.
Lucy, on the other hand, was very talented, very funny, and VERY smart. Desi Arnaz was very smart as well. They broke a lot of new ground in television.
What have you been watching? KATE HEPBURN'S closest competitor was BETTE DAVIS. And, KATE played MANY roles BRILLIANTLY!
Hepburn a legend… yes… overated… also a yes
@@meboneme1 Sorry, but she was overrated. That's my opinion.
You need to watch Suddenly Last Summer and Long Day's Journey Into Night. Kate plays a woman losing her mind in the first and a morphine addict in the second. Absolutely brilliant in both.
Hepburn always annoyed me.
Well, she was a lesbian you know?
Lucy was often not a nice person.
Nor are most of us.
I think Lucy was tough more than she was not nice. She was way ahead of her time as a studio executive, and as a woman back then, she had to be tough to be taken seriously. She also got frustrated with her son Desi Jr with some of the poor choices that he made in partners and some aspects of his life, and of course, Desi was cheating on her constantly.
You have a whole different set of priorities when you grow up in wealth and comforts excellence is expected and even cherished.Good for her guess she was to dumm to do anything else acting is hard work.....
Kathleen Carter Steeves I just read a biography about Hepburn that I got from one of those little free libraries around town ( title: Katherine Hepburn/author ? Year pub. 2005?) She wasn't my favorite actress from the past (athough The African Queen is one of greatest films ever, imo, her & Bogey's performances, Husten's direction and the story itself, are magnificent & unforgettable!) but, I knew it would be really interesting, after all, she is an acting icon. Well, after learning that at the tender age of 13 or 14 (?) she discovered her beloved 16/17 year old brother hanging in an attic, dead from suicide, and about her extremely unconventional, especially for those times, accomplished parents, in particularly her Mother's traumatic childhood & amazing strength and resolve, I have a much deeper respect for her as a person who did things on her own terms and was very successful doing it (except, perhaps, in her love life, although her past undoubtedly affected her impossible choices). There was a tragic history of multiple suicides on both sides of her recent family tree, a hidden, unspoken secret shame to be hidden at all costs, especially back then. This was the first K.H. biography that researched extensively voluminous documents from her family's history, with Hepburn's approval & permission. The author worked closely with Kate herself, & interviewed surviving family members and close friends of the actress. Being born into wealth was not the reason she was successful. She just wouldn't give up, no matter how disparaging the critics were, and they were often VERY harsh, regarding more than a few of her many acting roles on the Broadway stage & on film. Her surgeon father & mother WORKED their way into the upper middle class during K.H.'s youth. Her life story illustrates how obtaining higher education & financial security, career success, and fame, of course, is no guarantee of having a pain-free life. That certainly wasn't the case for Katherine Hepburn & her family. I highly recommend that biography, whether one is a K.H. fan or not, it was fascinating & engrossing...
Kathleen do you spend your life making unfounded assumptions?
Katharine Hepburn first wanted to be a surgeon like her father. She certainly wasn't too dumb to do anything else, she thought acting was a good choice after being in plays while she was in college. She joked about acting being an easy profession saying Shirley Temple had been doing it since she was four years old.
@@d.dedrick7991 Tom Hepburn was 15 when he died and Katharine was 13. Her family thought his death was probably caused by him imitating an actor he saw on stage pretending to be hung. The press's story of it being a suicide is thought to be a main reason Hepburn didn't want anything to do with them after that.
Katherine Hepburn had a face that would stop a clock. And she couldn't act. She was BORING! As Dorothy Parker said, “Miss Hepburn ran the whole gamut of emotions-from A to B.” She is to acting what "Citizen Kane" is to directing.
People are SUPPOSED to love Citizen Kane because it shows how high-toned they are. But it is a terrible, boring movie that audiences hated (and still hate). Hepburn was the same. People are supposed to love her acting because that shows how high-toned they are. But she couldn't act, and audiences HATED her. She was box-office poison -- for good reason.
She could act for sure. And had hits abd flops at the box office, loke pretty much all actors.
No taste
@@nealsims8372 I happen to agree with the PEOPLE who watched her movies when they were released -- not the critics. You may have noticed that often an actor or a movie gets high acclaim from the critics when the people say they stink. This is because if critics like things that are objectively good, they are no longer "special." So they show how highbrow they are by claiming to like things that are absolute rubbish. The critics have ALWAYS liked Hepburn. But the people knew her real worth, and the ONLY way they would watch one of her movies was when it had real stars (like Cary Grant or Spencer Tracy) that would make the movie enjoyable. Furthermore, Hepburn KNEW that.
@@gracianomaso3333 She was box office poison. Critics loved to show how sophisticated they were by praising her ability. But people stayed away from her pictures in droves because she stank as an actress. Her hits were films she did with people like Cary Grant - great actors who people wanted to see enough that they would tolerate her.
@@CCoburn3 She had hits. And was able to recover from flops. And the actors you mentioned had flops too.
One of the biggest lesbians in Hollywood.
Katharine or Lucille?
@@CanadianMonarchist YES 😉
@@CanadianMonarchistNOT Lucy! Apparently Hepburn ran in a panic away from John Barrymore on her 1st film, declaring, "My father (a doctor) doesn't want me to have babies!"