Really true! "Inflation" that keeps diablo 3/4 running is called dps. You cannot just log out and play again after 2-3 sessions as your top tier build is medicare...
@@wavelength369the bigger numbers are, the less meaning they have. Smaller numbers are better for clarity and readability. We don’t need every game to have 16 digit damage numbers for the Timmy’s that can’t even say that number
Razz one thing you forgot to take into account regarding the blood surge Necro is the fact that those training dummies are missing, massive amounts of corpses on the ground, like the infernal hordes would have. All the power of this build comes from corpses and the interaction between our Uniques. I’d say the blood surge Necro is right number two for inferno hordes and 4 overall. It also kills every Uber boss, and it can carry every Uber boss
Blood Surge is great for AOE but it struggles against bosses, especially in T8. Andy Rogue, Lightning Spear Sorc, and Stormslide Druid all destroy the bosses with similar gear, for that reason I would rank Blood Surge 4th in the Hordes.
I think that as long as they continue to open up multiple viable builds per class the game is in a good state. Obviously some work still remains and hopefully more underperforming build routes can rise up without having to nerf others. It’s also nice to have options in the endgame so you aren’t feeling the pressure to play something that doesn’t click with you. I think it’s also easy to fall into the trap of comparing how different builds scale up with each other instead of measuring them up against how they performs in the endgame content. If a build struggles against tormented variants or in T7 or 101 pits, then it needs work.
Thanks Raxx for revisiting the list. I would like to see the new guides for Druid and Necro. Looking at making secondary builds. I appreciate the Sorcerer news that the patch did not do much to game play as I was just getting ready to switch over.
I went Barb this season because I loved HOTA a couple season back, and I am having absolutely 0 fun. I figured once I got to endgame it would come together and after trying multiple builds, it just sucks.
Really liked this type of retrospective video, going back to previous statements and tiers forecasting and rethinking about them after some time into the season
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This is a phenomenal idea. Great way to get people excited to try out new builds. Definitely about to make that Landslide Druid after seeing it in action
Started playing Diablo 4 for the first time 5-6 days ago. Halfway to be fully geared for chain lightning sorcerrer. Grinding my way to lightning spear. Saw your other video talking about sorcerrer and started to build it. Very nice and clean videos, well structured and maaan thank you! So much fun to play the game, and with your help it's perfect! 👋😄🍻
Guides are always welcomed! You know one I would love to see? A salvage guide. I have my inventory full and don't know which ones to burn, it would be super welcomed. In maxroll for d3 it had the salvage list but I know it might not work for D4 but it helped a lot
got a shako and a tyrael’s might last night for my lightning spear sorc and i feel invincible. I can one hit all tormented bosses and cut through T8 Hordes like butter. It’s insane.
One hit or kill in one second? Cuz I see a ton of people claim they can one shot, but even though it’s in the phrase “ONE shot” they can’t seem to comprehend the two words 😂
Great content. I actively follow streams so I've kept up with the meta changes, but videos like this is a godsend for many people. Raxx you're the best.
Barbarian definitely needed the nerf, but the sad part about them now is that their core skills deal no damage. All of them. Double swing and whirlwind are just to proc dust devils. Hammer of the ancient and upheaval do no damage. Rend is so bad that a basic skill flay is better. I think Necromancer could use a buff and a better minion AI. They can clear stuff, but it's just slow to me. Maybe you need godly gear to make them work, but I never managed to do so. The class in general feels a bit more boring to play compared to other classes, even the weaker barbarian this season.
You can make Necros strong just fine but until they give them mobility they will never be anything but "slow." They have the damage, but not any sort of speed. Even their damage is lower than most classes that *also* have way more speed than them. The devs have dropped the ball with Necro since release.
The answer is yes to all the questions at the end, big fan of the looking at the rankings again after things have a chance to settle. Also inngeneral a fan of the build videos and personally i like to play all classes per season normally so in general my response would always be yes to build videos. 10/10 content lately.
dang it Raxxx.. i started with barb HC now at 92 played helltide and saw a sorc just 1 shot maiden over n over n over so i stack my cage to 3 and reap the exp..
I've been having a silly amount of fun with the Fireball build. The Staff of Endless Rage and the Gloves of the Illuminator make for a really good time.
Had a random playing helltide with and we summoned the helltide boss and he was wrecking the waves before I could do anything lol. Was sick...I just stood there like mkkkkkk
@@kingcodeman1992 I just picked up a Starless Skies, it goes so much harder now, really digging how many builds are viable now with the updated uniques
Really appreciate you revisiting the tier list. I've been running WW Twister Barb and it's been...okay, but I don't dispute your re-ranking here at all. In particular, it's still great for speedrunning something like Nightmare Dungeons, but I feel like the format of Infernal Hordes really shakes things up in terms of balance (which is good). Gonna give landslide Druid a shot after seeing your re-rankings here.
Sorcerer survivability probably up at least a few from 4th also. I know you were focused on endgame for this video but thought I'd mention. Love the content and tier list revisit!
WW Dust devils is a lot of fun and with Arreat's legs and i'm doing fine in Infernal Horde T7 and T8. It isn't the best, but it works and i'm really tanky at least. Kinda need a bit of a buff. I have all the needed Mythic Uniques and good gear (not perfect).
Same haha. It was the last class I had yet to make a toon for. I got lucky and dropped 3 Ubers so I’m doing ok. But I’m bummed that I could be absolutely annihilating with literally any other class
I never play barb and always go rouge or sorc in any of these games so I finally try a barb and 😢idk I played to about 70 and just couldn’t keep going I like the rouge Play style to much so I just couldn’t keep going on with the barb it felt meh imho I’ve never been a fan of barb or necro respectfully 😂 I have like 4 rouges now 😂 they’re to fun and have so much diversity
I just turn it off completely. Once you get an idea of what your character can output I don’t feel the need to see numbers all over the place. Just watch the hp bars disappear
Damage numbers are a completely pointless "feature" that crept its way into these games from MMORPGs. I mean, there are SO MANY numbers floating around that you can't read any of them anyways. The very first thing I do in every ARPG I play is to go to the UI settings to check what I can and cannot turn off. Damage numbers are the very first thing to go, if at all possible.
@@zero932905 agree in game it’s cleaner to have off. Mine defaulted to that this season and I didn’t miss it until I was trying to get the billion dmg procs. but for training dummy it is just so much easier to see the damage I might be playing around with.
Awesome video. i love this kind of stuff. i feel its nice for the people that dont have a ton of time to play andmay feel a little stuck with what they are playing. ty raxx keep rocking!
Hey Raxx, I'm in love with the blood surge necro, but you should note there is actually a variant of the bone spirit that emerged that is better than the "plain" spirit one. It's a bone splinters build, using the bone spirit to generate splinters, just like the druid landslide generating lightening storms.
Awesome video, I’m grinding a mageblood in poe, but when the Lilith exp buff comes I’ll start the Diablo 4 season, thanks for the video for sure rolling a sorc.
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As a barbarian player i can say barb is weak this season, everything else is better i couldn't decide what to play on barb it all feels bad, made a sorc and started tearing everything up
Oh please. WW dust devils is still really powerful and really fun. It doesn't "feel bad." Barbs just aren't god tier number 1 anymore and that is just fine. Barb players really are something else...
@@blaynegreiner9365 No, it's not fine to nerf classes down only to replace them by buffing others up to god-tier. It's horrible balancing from the devs. This whole flip-flopping of class balance and the fact they can't seem to actually balance classes out properly is lame. Also, plenty of druid and sorc players cried all season when their classes were a bit weaker but still perfectly viable for 90% of the game's content. It has nothing to do with "barb players really are something else." Trying to do tier 7 Infernal Hordes as a WW barb, with all BIS gear, nearly perfectly masterworked does feel significantly weaker than sorc. Sorcs are at least 3x as efficient/powerful. Inb4 you say "found the barb player."
Druid Number 1 Sorc 2 IMHO the nerf did hurt it I am high caps and tons of greater Affixes the Conjurgation mastery is not getting near the 50 I use to get I now get to about 26-30 so my speeds in T8 is now a tiny bit slower then my doomstorm druid
Sadly no credits to Mekuna = Sorc Lightning spear build AceOfSpades = Druid Landslide T8 destroyer build For creating theese build before no one knows about Them In my opinion this is so sad to see some Content creators dont give credit where credit should be giving No Hate towards you Rax good video and a tier list there is spot on
Yeah this is cool. I saw the Druid Landslide build on Maxroll and thought "You know, that actually looks fun to play. And not like clunky to be able to use." Not to mention you get the Uniques to be able to make it work even while levelling through the season caches. And I kind of appreciate when you can use a build to level and then take it into endgame, instead of having to learn a completely new playstyle to make use of a specific "Endgame" build.
decided to go barb this season and finally got fully geared and yeah, it feels terrible. rogues and sorcs just running everything 10x faster than anyone else. feels bad
I always play the Wizard/Sorcerers, glad to see they get their time to shine. I'd love to see a build guide for it. Btw, there is a stash in the training room. lol
Yeah, i agree with all the positions, and just to say, i've made a Blood Surge Necro and a Dust Devil WW Barb, both with super endgame gear with all the ubers and the masterwork and GR in the right place, i really have super gear, my blood surge with all the multiple drains and the nova deal over 300/400 million per overpower cast to any enemies in the screen, way more compared to the Raxx video, and also the WW dust devil, over 15 million damage for single devil, almost the max duable, and it's incredible to say, but simply the blood surge have more damage, in the aoe, and in the boss damage and single target, unbelivable until last season edit. and so finally, it's time also for the barb to get some buff in the upcoming patch and not only nerf
Would love to see the Druid landslide build guide. That’s what I am playing now and would love to compare to see where how close my build would is compared to yours.
That’s a first. A honest “we were wrong” about the list. Respect. As for barbs getting the nerf bat inserted sideways, I agree that’s the case on the top end. I do feel we need a different type of tier lists. I agree these builds are the best. But a lot of them require monk like dedication to farming to get going. I mean if I wanna make most of these s-tier builds work, I need to kick out my significant other and hire a maid to cook and clean. I create my own builds because of time constraints: - I need builds that work with easy to farm gear (boosted by main stat, working without needing GA resouce/cdr wise,…) - Ubers need to be an upgrade not a necessity - there needs to be a path to upgrade from working to best in slot And Barb still has a build like that: brawl/rupture spam. Enhanced rupture explosion is the last uncapped boost barbs has, boosted by main stat. The basic rupture uniques actually have a strength roll on them. I even went as far as to move cdr from gear affixes to aspects to be less gear dependent. I want my best in slot items to have affixes like strength and life, not something like “you need +ranks to whatever with a greater affix and Tripple crit masterwork or it won’t work”. You know, builds that benefit from stuff you actually have a chance of finding in game. I’d love to see a tier list actually considering the time invested in farming for the build. Until that time tier lists are theoretical things for me. They might give build ideas, in the “maybe I can make it work with less” kind of way. But I’ve spent too much time of my life “chasing” builds that take more time to farm than I have in a season. Not to be negative, if you have the time go for it. But there’s no where to go for no nonsense decent builds that work without devoting all your free time to a build guide you can only realistically half complete.
@Raxxanterax you should do a guide video showing how one could possibly find a secret god tier build. I.e. what effects/skills to stack together, how to focus on min/maxing while you level up etc. maybe even go through an established endgame build and show how you would "stumble" into it level by level. Could be fun.
Raxx GREAT VIDEO!!!! keep them coming, great idea to come back to the topic mid season!!! LETS be real you put a must try video we ALL trying it!!!! Keep the Videos coming on ALL content Brother!
I tried making Nature's Fury Landslide/Lightning Storm work so bad season 1-2. It was fun. Glad to see it's viable now I'll probably end up playing this season afterall.
Barb main here. being last is fine, but being this far behind in last place is not fine. T7 and T8 are painful to play as barb and that's the only place to get decent neathiron
playing druid this season for the first time. while I am still farming gear for T4+ hordes/endgame content, its really fun and just feels good to play.
Well, thanks a lot Raxx! I chose barb because you said it would be best endgame. I guess going forward, people should do the exact opposite of what you say.
"A lot of the barbs, honestly have already rerolled to something else (TS - 9:15)" true statement btw, as a barb main i'm in complete agreement barbs needed to be brought down, adjusted, nerfed whatever adjective you'd like but when I have to reroll classes because barb cant even come close to competing and blizzard didn't change barb builds at all, it is the same meta as last season, WW, bash and flay, but just about 85% weaker, we just have the same issue but in the other direction which isn't "Probably good for the balance of things (TS - 9:07)" its horrible game balancing and coming from you a barb main is insane and disappointing to hear, they've put an entire class straight to last and its not even close to 4th, i want all classes to get love and have multiple strong builds for good diversity in game play otherwise its boring and barb, druid and necro need some of that for sure since druid and necro have 1 super build and barb now has nothing, hoping they give them something for mid season or its Sayonara to the barb o7
I knew my boy Druid was gonna shine with some of the changes. I love my landslide build and am currently working on a basic skill build in the same vein, using Stormclaw but may do a shard of varathiel to make earthspike / wind shear nature fury hybrid
would love to see a guide for that druid build. I assume it's the Landslide build on Maxroll? I started a Barb this season since I have never leveled one yet, guess I should have gone druid instead which was my launch class before S1 and I haven't tried since. I know Sorc is an obvious choice for reroll but I played one in a recent season
You could make speedy boy teleporter, but you’d lose a lot of damage. Probably wouldn’t work in the high internal hordes, but it would vaporize helltide
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You’ve become my favorite Diablo guy. The way you don’t rush through your videos and don’t talk to fast makes it so much easier to comprehend.
hint hint wudi lol
He's my only Diablo guy ;)
Most others are either clickbate or cringy or both 😂😂 very few are really thoughtful.
Agreed 🤝
Rax is awesome because he can explain things in a way that's easy to understand. His voice is also really clear.
We've come a long way since "17 damage"
Lel, imagine playing a game where 5 digit is Endgame dps.
@@wavelength369 very specific nitpick since damage is scalable, but okay
Really true! "Inflation" that keeps diablo 3/4 running is called dps. You cannot just log out and play again after 2-3 sessions as your top tier build is medicare...
@anpe008 Is the Medicare build at least free, or do you have to pay for it like in the US?
@@wavelength369the bigger numbers are, the less meaning they have. Smaller numbers are better for clarity and readability. We don’t need every game to have 16 digit damage numbers for the Timmy’s that can’t even say that number
Razz one thing you forgot to take into account regarding the blood surge Necro is the fact that those training dummies are missing, massive amounts of corpses on the ground, like the infernal hordes would have. All the power of this build comes from corpses and the interaction between our Uniques. I’d say the blood surge Necro is right number two for inferno hordes and 4 overall. It also kills every Uber boss, and it can carry every Uber boss
I think its only stronger then Andariel rogue if u have Bis gear
@lorzkotzros he never said anything about that
Having every class at 100 in pretty good gear, I would say necro is still at 4th, for hordes as well. The others are just faster at everything.
Blood Surge is great for AOE but it struggles against bosses, especially in T8. Andy Rogue, Lightning Spear Sorc, and Stormslide Druid all destroy the bosses with similar gear, for that reason I would rank Blood Surge 4th in the Hordes.
Razz 💀
Idk how anyone can say HugeJackedMan with a straight face, except raxx 😂
I mean, his Rogue is called 'Bow Job' 🤣Keeping it classy.
Dude, this is great. Please keep doing these tier updates as seasons progress.
Make the Druid build guide so we can try it. Is the only class I haven’t leveled to 100 since release.
There's good guides for landslide druid up on yt from other people rn
Goblin incs build (with some tweaks cuz my gear was ass) had me doin t5 hordes at 85
use maxroll dude
Maxroll has a great guide by Boiler. He's been maining druids since before Christ was around. Highly recommend.
The build is Ace of Spades’. I think goblin is where you can find the video and mobalytics (for sure) is where you can find the build.
Great stuff Raxx, so happy to see someone dropping a mid season list, keep it up!!👍
mid season? it's barely started lol
its been a week my guy lmao
@sheng21 after 2 weeks its dead so its midseason now 😂
Just started the season late and picked druid! I would love a guide! Great videos as always.
Deasom got boring in 6 hours nit missing much .
Didn't regret rolling a druid this season and having a blast with the landslide build so far.
really apprecaite you going back through this with actual data once the season is under way! Thanks Raxx!
I think that as long as they continue to open up multiple viable builds per class the game is in a good state. Obviously some work still remains and hopefully more underperforming build routes can rise up without having to nerf others. It’s also nice to have options in the endgame so you aren’t feeling the pressure to play something that doesn’t click with you. I think it’s also easy to fall into the trap of comparing how different builds scale up with each other instead of measuring them up against how they performs in the endgame content. If a build struggles against tormented variants or in T7 or 101 pits, then it needs work.
Thanks Raxx for revisiting the list. I would like to see the new guides for Druid and Necro. Looking at making secondary builds. I appreciate the Sorcerer news that the patch did not do much to game play as I was just getting ready to switch over.
Going back mid season to reevaluate the Classes is a cool idea
The seasons been out for 2 entire weeks wdym mid season wtf
@@MrFloat777 the season is gonna end in 2 weeks so of course it's a mid season build review
@@unusualdungeon It doesn't end until Oct 6th..
@@Deedee48-jg9om My bad. Misread the in game pop up as season ending on 8th September
I went Barb this season because I loved HOTA a couple season back, and I am having absolutely 0 fun. I figured once I got to endgame it would come together and after trying multiple builds, it just sucks.
Really liked this type of retrospective video, going back to previous statements and tiers forecasting and rethinking about them after some time into the season
I like this content, especially when new synergies and potential patch notes come through during the season
I still can't stop laughing about rax calling exquisite blood "excusie" blood
Underrated comment 🤣
Sh*t is very funny. I forgot what movie that word came from too😂😂
@@Fuego720Euro Trip? “Scusi, scusi”
@@Fuego720 Inglorious Basterds probably
There's a Godfather spoof movie called Mafia! Where Lloyd Bridges is trying to get a ring off his mom's finger and she keeps farting every time he pulls on it.
"Scusi Mama. Scusi Mama."
This is a phenomenal idea. Great way to get people excited to try out new builds. Definitely about to make that Landslide Druid after seeing it in action
I wish there was Sever Necromancer build that's good. I'd love the idea of melee necro, grim reaping everything around you.
Love this type of vid. exactly what I want to see after getting my hands on all Uber unique and deciding which char to play next
Started playing Diablo 4 for the first time 5-6 days ago. Halfway to be fully geared for chain lightning sorcerrer. Grinding my way to lightning spear. Saw your other video talking about sorcerrer and started to build it. Very nice and clean videos, well structured and maaan thank you! So much fun to play the game, and with your help it's perfect! 👋😄🍻
Guides are always welcomed! You know one I would love to see? A salvage guide. I have my inventory full and don't know which ones to burn, it would be super welcomed. In maxroll for d3 it had the salvage list but I know it might not work for D4 but it helped a lot
got a shako and a tyrael’s might last night for my lightning spear sorc and i feel invincible. I can one hit all tormented bosses and cut through T8 Hordes like butter. It’s insane.
One hit or kill in one second? Cuz I see a ton of people claim they can one shot, but even though it’s in the phrase “ONE shot” they can’t seem to comprehend the two words 😂
One hit? Skeptical
@@MrFloat777 one hit, one second, one minute, in only one death, its all the same^^ who cares ;) overything is technically a "one hit/shot" these days
Great video Raxx, good to get the check-in! Just got my rogue up into the 90s and looking forward to blasting the endgame. Fun season!
Love this! Fun to see how things shake out and seeing examples for each class.
Great content. I actively follow streams so I've kept up with the meta changes, but videos like this is a godsend for many people. Raxx you're the best.
Barbarian definitely needed the nerf, but the sad part about them now is that their core skills deal no damage. All of them.
Double swing and whirlwind are just to proc dust devils. Hammer of the ancient and upheaval do no damage. Rend is so bad that a basic skill flay is better.
I think Necromancer could use a buff and a better minion AI. They can clear stuff, but it's just slow to me. Maybe you need godly gear to make them work, but I never managed to do so.
The class in general feels a bit more boring to play compared to other classes, even the weaker barbarian this season.
You can make Necros strong just fine but until they give them mobility they will never be anything but "slow." They have the damage, but not any sort of speed. Even their damage is lower than most classes that *also* have way more speed than them. The devs have dropped the ball with Necro since release.
Great video. I'd love to see a guide on the Druid landslide build as I am ready to transition into endgame. It looks like fun!
The answer is yes to all the questions at the end, big fan of the looking at the rankings again after things have a chance to settle.
Also inngeneral a fan of the build videos and personally i like to play all classes per season normally so in general my response would always be yes to build videos. 10/10 content lately.
dang it Raxxx.. i started with barb HC now at 92 played helltide and saw a sorc just 1 shot maiden over n over n over so i stack my cage to 3 and reap the exp..
Love this video! I usually do not start the season immediately. This is very timely and useful for me.
Thank you Raxx for your awesomeness!
I've been having a silly amount of fun with the Fireball build. The Staff of Endless Rage and the Gloves of the Illuminator make for a really good time.
Had a random playing helltide with and we summoned the helltide boss and he was wrecking the waves before I could do anything lol. Was sick...I just stood there like mkkkkkk
@@kingcodeman1992 i was doing that about an hour ago
@@kingcodeman1992 I just picked up a Starless Skies, it goes so much harder now, really digging how many builds are viable now with the updated uniques
Me too it's crazy fun and I can put up some good numbers I got my fireball up to rank 17
Really appreciate you revisiting the tier list. I've been running WW Twister Barb and it's been...okay, but I don't dispute your re-ranking here at all. In particular, it's still great for speedrunning something like Nightmare Dungeons, but I feel like the format of Infernal Hordes really shakes things up in terms of balance (which is good). Gonna give landslide Druid a shot after seeing your re-rankings here.
Sorcerer survivability probably up at least a few from 4th also. I know you were focused on endgame for this video but thought I'd mention. Love the content and tier list revisit!
WW Dust devils is a lot of fun and with Arreat's legs and i'm doing fine in Infernal Horde T7 and T8. It isn't the best, but it works and i'm really tanky at least. Kinda need a bit of a buff. I have all the needed Mythic Uniques and good gear (not perfect).
I'm here for the Druid guide, please, and thank you 😊
Typical that this is the season I try Barb. Actually had loads of fun but some bad luck with ubers so far
Don't feel bad, I've made 2 barb's this season! 😂❤
I've done 10 for spark my barb can clear 8's np I can speed 7's got my 4 ubers and I feel like it's pretty even with the other builds
@lancechartier8983 having 4 ubers tends to do that to any build lol.
Same haha. It was the last class I had yet to make a toon for. I got lucky and dropped 3 Ubers so I’m doing ok. But I’m bummed that I could be absolutely annihilating with literally any other class
I never play barb and always go rouge or sorc in any of these games so I finally try a barb and 😢idk I played to about 70 and just couldn’t keep going I like the rouge Play style to much so I just couldn’t keep going on with the barb it felt meh imho
I’ve never been a fan of barb or necro respectfully 😂
I have like 4 rouges now 😂 they’re to fun and have so much diversity
Blood surge is amazing! I’m so happy that you talk about it
Best part of this video was realizing I can turn off some damage to see the damage I want to see. I’ve just noobed it with all dmg on.
I just turn it off completely. Once you get an idea of what your character can output I don’t feel the need to see numbers all over the place. Just watch the hp bars disappear
Damage numbers are a completely pointless "feature" that crept its way into these games from MMORPGs. I mean, there are SO MANY numbers floating around that you can't read any of them anyways. The very first thing I do in every ARPG I play is to go to the UI settings to check what I can and cannot turn off. Damage numbers are the very first thing to go, if at all possible.
@@FzNd you must love poe then
@@zero932905 agree in game it’s cleaner to have off. Mine defaulted to that this season and I didn’t miss it until I was trying to get the billion dmg procs. but for training dummy it is just so much easier to see the damage I might be playing around with.
Massive thumbs up for reviewing the tier list.
Loving the Sorc this season... Working towards Lightning spear, but still have a ways to go... Thanks Raxx for the awesome vids this season!
Awesome video. i love this kind of stuff. i feel its nice for the people that dont have a ton of time to play andmay feel a little stuck with what they are playing. ty raxx keep rocking!
Love your content... please post your Druid Landslide build ASAP!!!
Great retrospective video. Love to see these more with the rankings.
Hey Raxx, I'm in love with the blood surge necro, but you should note there is actually a variant of the bone spirit that emerged that is better than the "plain" spirit one.
It's a bone splinters build, using the bone spirit to generate splinters, just like the druid landslide generating lightening storms.
Thanks!! Definitely going to need the sorcerer and druid build!!!
I agree about Barb, single target is ok but without the pants that buff CoTA I can't do much in the hoards as a bash barb.
Awesome video, I’m grinding a mageblood in poe, but when the Lilith exp buff comes I’ll start the Diablo 4 season, thanks for the video for sure rolling a sorc.
I’m starting S5 with Mother’s Blessing next week after grinding TFD. thx Raxx!
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@@MattyGamer9513 imagine being this happy on a Friday. 😈💥💯🔥 matty mids - do u need a hug this weekend?? are you a widdle cwanky?? u gonna be ok big guy?? it’s ok - you don’t have to justify yourself. We understand. ✅
@partyrd487 just start now you lazy ****
that's great, i hope you will do that each eason. Actually I might wait for your revisited tier list to start the season next time
Druid build is a MUST. 🔥 great vid!
Yeeeess please make the Druid build!!! Am starting one now and it will help a lot.
As a barbarian player i can say barb is weak this season, everything else is better i couldn't decide what to play on barb it all feels bad, made a sorc and started tearing everything up
Oh please. WW dust devils is still really powerful and really fun. It doesn't "feel bad." Barbs just aren't god tier number 1 anymore and that is just fine. Barb players really are something else...
So you're not a barb player. You're a flavor of the month player. Gratz. 😴
@@blaynegreiner9365 No, it's not fine to nerf classes down only to replace them by buffing others up to god-tier. It's horrible balancing from the devs. This whole flip-flopping of class balance and the fact they can't seem to actually balance classes out properly is lame. Also, plenty of druid and sorc players cried all season when their classes were a bit weaker but still perfectly viable for 90% of the game's content. It has nothing to do with "barb players really are something else." Trying to do tier 7 Infernal Hordes as a WW barb, with all BIS gear, nearly perfectly masterworked does feel significantly weaker than sorc. Sorcs are at least 3x as efficient/powerful. Inb4 you say "found the barb player."
Play Druid! It's like a DD Barb but better, and way more satisfying to do!
@@krismate2895 found the barb player
Yeah i like an updated tier list from you cause you do play everybuild so i know you know what your giving us
Druid Number 1 Sorc 2 IMHO the nerf did hurt it I am high caps and tons of greater Affixes the Conjurgation mastery is not getting near the 50 I use to get I now get to about 26-30 so my speeds in T8 is now a tiny bit slower then my doomstorm druid
I agree with your list but idk what your talking about the patch hasn't even been released yet
i don’t even play d4 but i am still listening because i like the way tax explain things
Sadly no credits to
Mekuna = Sorc Lightning spear build
AceOfSpades = Druid Landslide T8 destroyer build
For creating theese build before no one knows about Them
In my opinion this is so sad to see some Content creators dont give credit where credit should be giving
No Hate towards you Rax good video and a tier list there is spot on
Mekuna is godly. But to be fair everyone was thinking about the same winterglass build since it was announced.
The diablo 4 devs made these builds on purpose you act like it's an accident and someone just so happened to figure it out lol
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Yeah I'm playing lightning spear it's insane I love it
Yeah this is cool. I saw the Druid Landslide build on Maxroll and thought "You know, that actually looks fun to play. And not like clunky to be able to use." Not to mention you get the Uniques to be able to make it work even while levelling through the season caches. And I kind of appreciate when you can use a build to level and then take it into endgame, instead of having to learn a completely new playstyle to make use of a specific "Endgame" build.
decided to go barb this season and finally got fully geared and yeah, it feels terrible. rogues and sorcs just running everything 10x faster than anyone else. feels bad
I always play the Wizard/Sorcerers, glad to see they get their time to shine. I'd love to see a build guide for it. Btw, there is a stash in the training room. lol
playing SC with the community is so awesome. season 5 has been so much fun.
Would love to see the Landslide Druid guide!
Well it seems you have internet so.........
AceOfSpades from GoblinInc has the most optimized variant of this build and has several videos covering it.
Hey Raxx thanks for the vid, would love to see that Druid guide please!
Yeah, i agree with all the positions, and just to say, i've made a Blood Surge Necro and a Dust Devil WW Barb, both with super endgame gear with all the ubers and the masterwork and GR in the right place, i really have super gear, my blood surge with all the multiple drains and the nova deal over 300/400 million per overpower cast to any enemies in the screen, way more compared to the Raxx video, and also the WW dust devil, over 15 million damage for single devil, almost the max duable, and it's incredible to say, but simply the blood surge have more damage, in the aoe, and in the boss damage and single target, unbelivable until last season
edit. and so finally, it's time also for the barb to get some buff in the upcoming patch and not only nerf
yeah thats a fair assesment. thanks once more for all the work you put into ARPGs
Nice vid. How about bone Splinter necro? Is it a viable build for end game?
Appreciate the updated list.
@raxxanterax
Thank you for pushing chain lightening as a build. As a casual player it’s been a blast!
This revisit was definitely needed after not having a good PTR
Glad the landslide/storm druid has finally gotten love. Moment I started the season, rolled druid, and did the build, knew it was gonna get love :)
Mid season, and showing each best build? Goated video man
I dunno, doomstorm is pretty OP. Been following ace of spades guide.
Would love to see the Druid landslide build guide. That’s what I am playing now and would love to compare to see where how close my build would is compared to yours.
Would absolutely love a video for the landstorm druid
That’s a first. A honest “we were wrong” about the list. Respect. As for barbs getting the nerf bat inserted sideways, I agree that’s the case on the top end.
I do feel we need a different type of tier lists. I agree these builds are the best. But a lot of them require monk like dedication to farming to get going. I mean if I wanna make most of these s-tier builds work, I need to kick out my significant other and hire a maid to cook and clean.
I create my own builds because of time constraints:
- I need builds that work with easy to farm gear (boosted by main stat, working without needing GA resouce/cdr wise,…)
- Ubers need to be an upgrade not a necessity
- there needs to be a path to upgrade from working to best in slot
And Barb still has a build like that: brawl/rupture spam. Enhanced rupture explosion is the last uncapped boost barbs has, boosted by main stat. The basic rupture uniques actually have a strength roll on them. I even went as far as to move cdr from gear affixes to aspects to be less gear dependent. I want my best in slot items to have affixes like strength and life, not something like “you need +ranks to whatever with a greater affix and Tripple crit masterwork or it won’t work”. You know, builds that benefit from stuff you actually have a chance of finding in game. I’d love to see a tier list actually considering the time invested in farming for the build.
Until that time tier lists are theoretical things for me. They might give build ideas, in the “maybe I can make it work with less” kind of way. But I’ve spent too much time of my life “chasing” builds that take more time to farm than I have in a season. Not to be negative, if you have the time go for it. But there’s no where to go for no nonsense decent builds that work without devoting all your free time to a build guide you can only realistically half complete.
@Raxxanterax you should do a guide video showing how one could possibly find a secret god tier build. I.e. what effects/skills to stack together, how to focus on min/maxing while you level up etc. maybe even go through an established endgame build and show how you would "stumble" into it level by level. Could be fun.
Raxx GREAT VIDEO!!!! keep them coming, great idea to come back to the topic mid season!!! LETS be real you put a must try video we ALL trying it!!!! Keep the Videos coming on ALL content Brother!
Hi rax great video once again. I'd loveee for a andariels Rogue guide to come from you :)
100%agree with you. I play with a mate on my barb for farm, but solo it sucks. Been leveling a rogue
I tried making Nature's Fury Landslide/Lightning Storm work so bad season 1-2. It was fun. Glad to see it's viable now I'll probably end up playing this season afterall.
Not even playing this season, but i still enjoy your content.
Barb main here. being last is fine, but being this far behind in last place is not fine. T7 and T8 are painful to play as barb and that's the only place to get decent neathiron
I'd like a decent shred druid build using rabies. Also, incinerate build is my fav
Started watching Rax because of Frosty lol. I subscribed because I like his contents.
Having an absolute blast with barrage, can get a build set up extremely early and just demolishes all the way
playing druid this season for the first time. while I am still farming gear for T4+ hordes/endgame content, its really fun and just feels good to play.
Definitely wouldn’t mind an andareal rogue guide, finally picked up a Visage, haven’t touched my rogue since running on my lightning spear sorc
Blood Surge necro is godly, never before have I felt invincible on Necromancer
Landslide guide would be nice sir. ❤
What kind of passives do You use , and what do we want from the Paragonboard to max out our characters , for example in the Sorc build ?
Very pleased with Blood Surge Necro this season. My record so far is 793 burning aether in IH.
Well, thanks a lot Raxx! I chose barb because you said it would be best endgame. I guess going forward, people should do the exact opposite of what you say.
Instant Thumbs up, just seeing the subject, was waiting for this!!
"A lot of the barbs, honestly have already rerolled to something else (TS - 9:15)" true statement btw, as a barb main i'm in complete agreement barbs needed to be brought down, adjusted, nerfed whatever adjective you'd like but when I have to reroll classes because barb cant even come close to competing and blizzard didn't change barb builds at all, it is the same meta as last season, WW, bash and flay, but just about 85% weaker, we just have the same issue but in the other direction which isn't "Probably good for the balance of things (TS - 9:07)" its horrible game balancing and coming from you a barb main is insane and disappointing to hear, they've put an entire class straight to last and its not even close to 4th, i want all classes to get love and have multiple strong builds for good diversity in game play otherwise its boring and barb, druid and necro need some of that for sure since druid and necro have 1 super build and barb now has nothing, hoping they give them something for mid season or its Sayonara to the barb o7
I knew my boy Druid was gonna shine with some of the changes. I love my landslide build and am currently working on a basic skill build in the same vein, using Stormclaw but may do a shard of varathiel to make earthspike / wind shear nature fury hybrid
yes we need build guides for Necro, Druid and Rogue
Google is free😂
Maxroll has every build he mentioned in this video with every bit of info you need including progressing as you find gear upgrades
would love to see a guide for that druid build. I assume it's the Landslide build on Maxroll? I started a Barb this season since I have never leveled one yet, guess I should have gone druid instead which was my launch class before S1 and I haven't tried since. I know Sorc is an obvious choice for reroll but I played one in a recent season
So, out of curiosity. Is teleporter sorceress a thing? With the new reworked oculus etc? Or is it just absolute no-no...
You could make speedy boy teleporter, but you’d lose a lot of damage. Probably wouldn’t work in the high internal hordes, but it would vaporize helltide
Andariel Rogue Build video and Druid build video would be amazing ❤