Worst thing about the meteoric ore blade is the devs couldn’t have even been bothered to put the gravity magic hit effect instead of the normal magic effect
A quick note about the Rivers of Blood: The blood extension and the weapon hit itself on Corpse Piler are mutually exclusive, meaning that if the blood extension does hit, the weapon itself cannot, and vice versa. Because the weapon itself has higher Motion Values than the Blood Extension does, you will always want to stay within melee range anyway to maximize the potential of the weapon. In any case, Naga/Uchi double slash still outperforms it.
Meteoric Ore Blade should have had a unique Waves of Darkness weapon art with a fast followup attack with meteoric effects. Serpentbone blade should have had a D scaling in arcane, and had the weapon art changed to a unique Poison Moth Flight that also buffs the weapon with a poison armament. Star-Lined Sword should have been a Light Greatsword, and had Frostbite instead of bleed, with the weapon art also dealing frostbite like Onze has on his weapon. Dragonscale Blade should have had passive bleed and the weapon art should either get range like the Leyndell Knight's get when they use Lightning Slash, or be a unique Piercing Fang. CONTROVERSIAL: Nagakiba should have slower light attacks and use more stamina. It's way too good with no drawbacks.
I'm so disappointed poison moth isn't on Serpentbone. Also, Star Lined Sword could have the frost vortex attack that Onze uses on its guard counter as well
when you rank the great katanas, maybe weave them into this list, because that comparison would be interesting too would be generally cool to see in other ranking videos similar to another type
whats sad is that the best feature of the meteoric ore blade which is the heavy ichimonji is that it has been made to a stance ash of war that can be put on way better weapons and can be buffed significantly
Heavy Barbaric Cry Uchi is one of my favourite things to run, might not be optimal but instant access to hyper armour on a weapon class this good while getting A Scaling is real nice.
There's one thing that the Star-Lined Sword does better than the Moonviel; looks, IMO it's one of the best looking weapons From has EVER made. In terms of looks its an S++-tier weapon.
A missed opportunity with the star lined sword was to give it frost instead of bleed. When you fight the guy that uses it, it gives you frost, but when you use it, it's bleed instead?
the r1 weapon art on the moonveil has this problem where hitting it at roint blank causes the projectile to go up. pretty sure it's a bug but noone talks about it
I have had that happen with the heavy too. I’ll hit with the weapon part but the projectile misses. It rarely happens but I should’ve still mentioned it
Having the Serpentbone Blade and Tree Spear not be infusible is even more inexcusable when you consider that the Venomous Fang can be, not to mention the Fire Knight/Black Steel/Clayman’s Harpoon weapons. I’d love to be able to do a poison/bleed setup as Arcane but your options are so limited.
You said strength int doesn't get anything good but that entire archetype is just a cold strength build, so it gets everything a pure strength build could get. 54 str and 20+int (for base reqs on some weapons) and you're swinging just as hard with frost buildup. The meteoric ore blade would be the only bleed option for that build without compromising damage on a katana. Not a great option (which is why it's the bottom) but an option still
Waterfowl should have infinite hyper armor once you get it going in PVE and It still wouldnt be top 10 weapon in the game let alone too OP or broken and it would be one the hardest ones to get. Give it passive rot and heal on hit with waterfowl or infinite hyperamor.
@@datboi2882We could've gotten Sun Light Blade as a katana. Zacki has no balls. We could've gotten a Magma katana, but Zacki is a coward. The rewards for slaying Bayle were boring.
Nagakiba is overrated. Everyone always mentions this distance thing, but the truth is you rarely beat a boss or really win based on a little bit of range. It's much better to have the power to the Uchi
Meteoric blade is incredible. Its r2s got sped up to make it deal very good dps Also you're actually lying about a magic uchi or naga getting more damage, they get less damage when 2h when same amount of stat investment because meteoric is a strength weapon
Star-lined sword's art should have been a stance where the first two hits of the ash are the light attack and the heavy is a jump-and-disappear thing like it does now, but with i-frames. Would have *probably* made that weapon competitive in PVP for people able to free-aim the ash.
Not really. It being uninfusable means it is locked out of some great ash of war contenders such as repeating thrust that have always (at least to my knowledge) outperformed corpse piler in terms of DPS. That, and split damage with fire.
It would've been cool if the meteoric ore blade had 2 ashes of war depending on input, like moonveil or sword of night and flame. One is a downward cut that launches enemies forward, and bosses if you breakl tand the other one is gravitas on steroids with crazy range and pull in power. Even better if it worked on bosses
Still love Rivers the most. Was never a fan of jump attack. It's very clunky to me. Moonveil was my first build. Also, another clunky move set. Rivers is just so smooth. No jerky start stop like Moonveil special move. Although your video has made me intrigued about the blood blade ash. Might give that a try.
Tbh sword of night feels like an upgrade to hand of malenia, a cool ash is worthless if you can't ever land it while sword of night is good even in pvp, with the ash giving you a true combo into heavy The range on hand on malenia is comparable to the nagakiba though
10:20 I’m pretty sure the double slash heavy true combos out of the witching hour skill. Unless they patched it out. So I’d say the heavy very much compliments the skill.
With an uchigatana you can heavy attack after a guard counter then a light attack making a true combo. You can’t true combo with the nagakiba poking attack though
Personally think Moonveil is number 1. Not sure why the fact that it scaling with Int also gives access to an entire kit of sorceries wasn't mentioned. Having weapons that scale with faith or int is always going to superior to weapons that scale with dex or str purely because it gives access to an entire suite of bonus skills. Dex scaling katanas are not remotely as versatile as Moonveil.
Infusible katanas are way more versatile than moonveil. Magic infused uchi and Nagakiba get more damage than Moonveil with the same build and you also get the option to change the skill and infusion to different elements or status effects
About strength/int builds: there actually is a staff for the build, the demi-human queen staff which gets a c in strength as well as an s in intelligence
The strength scaling doesn’t boost sorcery scaling for that staff. It’s essentially a useless C scaling as it only boosts the damage of hitting with the staff itself
@simon-peterwilliamson2412 unfortunately not, though when upgraded it is the strongest staff for int levels 1-40, anything above 40 and its just worse than most other staffs.
Meteoric ore blade is the highest damage katana. It's been a trend since DS2 to make low range katanas do the highest damage(berserker blade, black blade).
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 There's no reason to even showcase endgame boss fights for a tier list. You spoiled multiple boss fights for me when you can just show early bosses or random mobs for the purpose of the video. There's lots of new players out there interested in videos like this, just be mindful
In a keen infusion yeah but for everything else it’s almost around 20AR. Which still isn’t much but as I mentioned in the video the uchi has other things going for it too
Keen Infusion has ~18 more AR on Level 125 according to slugbot Occult infusion (most optimal) has ~33 more AR This can vary based on other equipment that can affect required endurance levels.
Miyazaki on his way to give us another int Katana instead of a faith one🗣🔥
Oh look, a lighting katana, surely it's gonna be a faith oriented one, right ?... Right 😶 ?
@@flavienmaillard3910 Of course it's quality scaling...of course...still sour about that
He even adds magic damage with dex scaling 😭
@@Lerbon_Janes he couldn't resist adding magic damage somehow😭🙏
ah you were at my side all along, my true mentor my... uh... my flame art uchigatana??
Can't get over the fact that nagakiba even outranges a great katana
How do you get the data for the range? Only through chi tenjin?
@@adamnave1078 Dsanimstudio
This doesn't seem true, the average range of Nagakiba attacks is ~4.62, whereas the average range of great katana attacks is ~6
True, but after playing with a great katana for a while it just doesn't hit like it used to.
Keen Nagi with unsheathed ash also out damages Moonveil ash on an optimized build lol.
still wild we never got a faith based katana.
faith based red lightning katana would probably be the coolest weapon in fromsoft history
I’ve been saying this
like; off the top of my head:
1. Destined Death Katana
2. Dragon Lightning Katana
3. Fire Lightning Katana
4. Holy/Darkness themed Katana
How is there not a dragon cult based katana?
@@pockystyx4087 they have a lightning/frost bite katana though right? 🤔…
Worst thing about the meteoric ore blade is the devs couldn’t have even been bothered to put the gravity magic hit effect instead of the normal magic effect
Not putting innate bleed on every katana was a huge mistake. If both the Serpentbone & Dragonscale had bleed they'd be so much more viable options.
Plus it just doesn't make sense. The blades are similar to all other katanas. In fact, serpent blade looks like it would do the most bleed out of em
@@rhettbutler5397Fr it's saw teeth is similar to scavenger blade
A quick note about the Rivers of Blood: The blood extension and the weapon hit itself on Corpse Piler are mutually exclusive, meaning that if the blood extension does hit, the weapon itself cannot, and vice versa. Because the weapon itself has higher Motion Values than the Blood Extension does, you will always want to stay within melee range anyway to maximize the potential of the weapon. In any case, Naga/Uchi double slash still outperforms it.
Meteoric Ore Blade should have had a unique Waves of Darkness weapon art with a fast followup attack with meteoric effects.
Serpentbone blade should have had a D scaling in arcane, and had the weapon art changed to a unique Poison Moth Flight that also buffs the weapon with a poison armament.
Star-Lined Sword should have been a Light Greatsword, and had Frostbite instead of bleed, with the weapon art also dealing frostbite like Onze has on his weapon.
Dragonscale Blade should have had passive bleed and the weapon art should either get range like the Leyndell Knight's get when they use Lightning Slash, or be a unique Piercing Fang.
CONTROVERSIAL:
Nagakiba should have slower light attacks and use more stamina. It's way too good with no drawbacks.
I'm so disappointed poison moth isn't on Serpentbone. Also, Star Lined Sword could have the frost vortex attack that Onze uses on its guard counter as well
Nagakiba really makes you FEEL like Sephiroth
when you rank the great katanas, maybe weave them into this list, because that comparison would be interesting too
would be generally cool to see in other ranking videos similar to another type
They are different weapon types. In fact, great katanas are more similar to greatswords.
@@BorrasitoTakaTaka
that's absolutely fair
but the reason it makes sense to me is that they are both primarily dex weapons with bleed
whats sad is that the best feature of the meteoric ore blade which is the heavy ichimonji is that it has been made to a stance ash of war that can be put on way better weapons and can be buffed significantly
Just wanted to take a moment to appreciate the absolute fashion souls he did with each weapon on this video
Heavy Barbaric Cry Uchi is one of my favourite things to run, might not be optimal but instant access to hyper armour on a weapon class this good while getting A Scaling is real nice.
Strength abuser 😡😡😡
Imagine if they turned the onze into a light greatsword rather than giving us the 17th katana. The AOW would compliment the LGS moveset rly well too
There's one thing that the Star-Lined Sword does better than the Moonviel; looks, IMO it's one of the best looking weapons From has EVER made. In terms of looks its an S++-tier weapon.
nah
Why does it look like a straight sword tho 😭 barely curved at the tip and a really wide handguard makes it look like a normal longsword
Goes to show how strong this class is if Meteoric Ore Blade is last. One of my easiest playthroughs was with that sword.
It’s amazing how good the uchigatana is for a starter weapon. It carried me well into liurnia only first play through.
A missed opportunity with the star lined sword was to give it frost instead of bleed. When you fight the guy that uses it, it gives you frost, but when you use it, it's bleed instead?
the r1 weapon art on the moonveil has this problem where hitting it at roint blank causes the projectile to go up. pretty sure it's a bug but noone talks about it
I have had that happen with the heavy too. I’ll hit with the weapon part but the projectile misses. It rarely happens but I should’ve still mentioned it
10:58 she responded to your waterfowl with a waterfowl lol
Having the Serpentbone Blade and Tree Spear not be infusible is even more inexcusable when you consider that the Venomous Fang can be, not to mention the Fire Knight/Black Steel/Clayman’s Harpoon weapons.
I’d love to be able to do a poison/bleed setup as Arcane but your options are so limited.
You said strength int doesn't get anything good but that entire archetype is just a cold strength build, so it gets everything a pure strength build could get. 54 str and 20+int (for base reqs on some weapons) and you're swinging just as hard with frost buildup. The meteoric ore blade would be the only bleed option for that build without compromising damage on a katana. Not a great option (which is why it's the bottom) but an option still
Bro badmouthed the cool r2 of the meteoric ore blade
The good thing about the meteoric ore blade is it is great for hitting headshots. This gives it bonus damage and stance without having to change stats
Waterfowl should have infinite hyper armor once you get it going in PVE and It still wouldnt be top 10 weapon in the game let alone too OP or broken and it would be one the hardest ones to get.
Give it passive rot and heal on hit with waterfowl or infinite hyperamor.
Me on my way to use the Meteoric Ore Blade for half of my first play through.
😂😂
Can we PLEASE get a faith scaling lightning or flame katana Miyazaki even holy please
Isn't that what flame art is?
Unique weapon @@gdawgs101
@@gdawgs101 I’m talking like a moonveil but for faith builds
@@datboi2882We could've gotten Sun Light Blade as a katana. Zacki has no balls. We could've gotten a Magma katana, but Zacki is a coward. The rewards for slaying Bayle were boring.
Nagakiba is overrated. Everyone always mentions this distance thing, but the truth is you rarely beat a boss or really win based on a little bit of range. It's much better to have the power to the Uchi
He mentioned about 6 reasons why it's better
@@RemingtonSteel he's wrong
@@CitizenofDystopia You can have your 4 more AR and I'll take the much better moveset
Happy Birthday Michael Zaki🎉🎉🎉
“It was too big to be called a Katana. Long, tough and infusible so we just called it Nagakiba.”
The Starlined needs to stay with Yosh. Budget Yoda rocks with it.
Barbaric Roar + Uchi + multi-hit talismans, my beloved ❤️
My first time playing Elden Ring the serpentbone katana carried me through the whole game
Been loving the Great Katanas lately . The Rakshasa is too sexy . Started a whole new build just for that weapon
Meteoric blade is incredible. Its r2s got sped up to make it deal very good dps
Also you're actually lying about a magic uchi or naga getting more damage, they get less damage when 2h when same amount of stat investment because meteoric is a strength weapon
Great Video thanks i love the Naga and Uchi my Favs
I'm an OG rivers user and it carried me through the dlc with mimic tear
Star-lined sword's art should have been a stance where the first two hits of the ash are the light attack and the heavy is a jump-and-disappear thing like it does now, but with i-frames. Would have *probably* made that weapon competitive in PVP for people able to free-aim the ash.
Never cook again (rank all bonfire names)
Ask rusty to do this, he will gladly accept💀
@@Bear10325and it'll still be dogshit
@youwy for your next souls borne elden ring run use only the worst weapon in each class to complete the games
true , that light version of transient moonlight is what made me beat leda and her squad because of how fast it is and the stagger that itt has .
Meteoric oreblade also is hell on earth to nab early unless you know how to dodge pest threads
Draconic scale is really incredible when you dual wield it 6:03
Okay but the Meteroic ore blade when dual wielded with moonveil is genuinely super fun and solid
RoB would have been the best if it didn't got nerfed
Not really. It being uninfusable means it is locked out of some great ash of war contenders such as repeating thrust that have always (at least to my knowledge) outperformed corpse piler in terms of DPS. That, and split damage with fire.
@@nosleep-d5k corpse piler is way cooler and has such a badass name tho
Honestly one of the most predictable tierlists bc the usefulness of the katanas is super straightfoward, great video tho
A faith based “Blade Of The Heavens” with lightning damage would have been so sick.
It would've been cool if the meteoric ore blade had 2 ashes of war depending on input, like moonveil or sword of night and flame. One is a downward cut that launches enemies forward, and bosses if you breakl tand the other one is gravitas on steroids with crazy range and pull in power. Even better if it worked on bosses
Also a top 10, 15, or 20 pvp weapons
Still love Rivers the most. Was never a fan of jump attack. It's very clunky to me. Moonveil was my first build. Also, another clunky move set. Rivers is just so smooth. No jerky start stop like Moonveil special move. Although your video has made me intrigued about the blood blade ash. Might give that a try.
The 2:01 zoom into the characters skull haha.
2:02 Ayo, what the what?
lol the camera clipped inside his character’s head
That jumpscared tf out of me 😂
3:37 - so did anyone ever notice how the godskin noble is moving his lips when casting that blackflame spell?
Hope off the meteoric ore blade
Tbh sword of night feels like an upgrade to hand of malenia, a cool ash is worthless if you can't ever land it while sword of night is good even in pvp, with the ash giving you a true combo into heavy
The range on hand on malenia is comparable to the nagakiba though
will you be redoing the weapon types you did before patch 1.14?
What do you know you cangaroo weilding cheese puff?!
The goat of goats is back with another list
can u rank all the reapers ^^ ur vid is just so good
Funny the best ones are at the start. Always say to new players picking samurai for the first playthrough is the easiest.
10:20 I’m pretty sure the double slash heavy true combos out of the witching hour skill. Unless they patched it out.
So I’d say the heavy very much compliments the skill.
Nagakiba + Spinning Slash = DON'T TOUCH ME
Me when Micheal Zaki won't give us a lightning or faith katana:
What armour are you wearing in the thumbnail
With an uchigatana you can heavy attack after a guard counter then a light attack making a true combo. You can’t true combo with the nagakiba poking attack though
I'll never get over the fact that straight swords were not the same length as the uchigatana. Fromsoft favouritism going crazy
It also took them over 10 years to add ACTUAL longswords into their games ... and they are still wrong because they have no crossguard.
katana users are crazy passionate!
I’m not watching those TikTok. Had to just go to his channel
Did heavy attacks get buffed for katanas?
Serpent bone blade exists only for the godskins
Personally think Moonveil is number 1. Not sure why the fact that it scaling with Int also gives access to an entire kit of sorceries wasn't mentioned. Having weapons that scale with faith or int is always going to superior to weapons that scale with dex or str purely because it gives access to an entire suite of bonus skills. Dex scaling katanas are not remotely as versatile as Moonveil.
Infusible katanas are way more versatile than moonveil. Magic infused uchi and Nagakiba get more damage than Moonveil with the same build and you also get the option to change the skill and infusion to different elements or status effects
Shout out to the wakizashi
Now do bows. But like look for secret mechanics and stuff lol
Need a fire based katana too
We need zanka no tachi in elden ring
1 view 56 seconds ago... My goat is washed 🙏🙏
Go back to twitch ghost 😂
So.....what are you ranking these on?
Flails ranking next?
Make a video for each class even if some have just 2. Get that ad revenue
We all know who is on number 1 in the twinblade tier list
Uchigatana carries my lvl1 run
Nagakiba scabbard clipping through the floor looks stupid. Rivers of blood, however, looks very much not stupid.
Flame art uchigatana is the best weapon in elden ring
About strength/int builds: there actually is a staff for the build, the demi-human queen staff which gets a c in strength as well as an s in intelligence
The strength scaling doesn’t boost sorcery scaling for that staff. It’s essentially a useless C scaling as it only boosts the damage of hitting with the staff itself
@@youwyas you should on a bonk build. Staff bonk only run when
@@youwyI thought it would be like the clawmark seal where the strength scaling helps the sorcery
@@youwy Some game of the year design right there.
@simon-peterwilliamson2412 unfortunately not, though when upgraded it is the strongest staff for int levels 1-40, anything above 40 and its just worse than most other staffs.
Faith katana believers waiting almost as long as farmwatch conspiracists to be disappointed
man, souls youtubers eat good when a patch comes out huh
How do you put blood flame blade on your nagakiba because mine doesn’t let me
Has to be base keen or heavy
TIL that double slash is the same animation as rivers of blood
They could of given eo many different types of kitantas imagine a madness one or ghost flame one or anything
What about Rakshasa’s Katana?
Meteoric ore blade is the highest damage katana. It's been a trend since DS2 to make low range katanas do the highest damage(berserker blade, black blade).
Rob will be forever the coolest.. 😅
I'm running with dual RoB.
it's so cringe putting end game boss spoilers in educational ER videos that newer players would likely watch
is a tier list mate , plus the dlc was 3 months ago
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 There's no reason to even showcase endgame boss fights for a tier list. You spoiled multiple boss fights for me when you can just show early bosses or random mobs for the purpose of the video. There's lots of new players out there interested in videos like this, just be mindful
nah rivers of blood is a really sigma weapon
New hammer tier list when??????
what is the best ash of war with the nagakiba?
Bloodblade
Spinning slash with blood flame blade
Im taking Uchi all day
why is nobody talking about the raksashas katana. Why is it not in this list?
It’s a great katana. These are normal katanas
When he says uchi does more damage he means like 3 more ar , bruh
In a keen infusion yeah but for everything else it’s almost around 20AR. Which still isn’t much but as I mentioned in the video the uchi has other things going for it too
Keen Infusion has ~18 more AR on Level 125 according to slugbot
Occult infusion (most optimal) has ~33 more AR
This can vary based on other equipment that can affect required endurance levels.
Claws next
What about the sword of night?
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There are only 10 katanas? 😂😂
Yet that's what the majority uses
yes