I know he dubs these to expand his market and couldn't possibly record English and German videos but I want to hear his real English. I bet he could do it
Its really crazy, soon we will be transporting thousands of tons of metal across europe in form of batteries. Also production of these batteries requires insane amounts of energy. So eco friendly 😀 I am really looking forward how this will develop, and it wont be nice, green eco maniacs are going to destroy this planet, in the name of ecology
@@peepa47 So you actually think burning hundreds of liters of diesel fuel each week is better than driving a electric truck? With thinking like that, we might still have people not asking for gas cars, but the future is faster horses. It's not 1950 where steam is king of the locomotives! Someday you will change.
@@peepa47 You're right that it's not particularly efficient to haul a bunch of extra weight around in the form of batteries that don't burn away as you use them, like diesel does. And you're also right that batteries take a large amount of energy to make. But both of those things are drops in the bucket compared to the gargantuan energy wastage of combustion engines. Modern diesel trucks get about 45% efficiency of converting chemical potential energy into power at the wheels. That means 55% of the energy in the diesel is lost as heat. In contrast, electric motors get about 95% efficiency, so they're wasting less than 1/10th as much of their onboard energy as a diesel does. This means that, in terms of CO2 per mile, a natural gas power plant providing electricity for an EV truck is *significantly* better for the environment than a diesel truck. And it just gets better as the grid gets greener, without having to get a new truck. Not to mention that electricity is much cheaper per mile than diesel is, too. This also means that the higher up-front energy cost of creating batteries and motors vs creating diesel engines is made up for very early in the life of the truck, due to its far lower energy cost per mile driven. Since these trucks drive an average of more than 100,000 km per year, that up-front cost gets paid off FAST, after which the truck lives another 10+ years, being radically more efficient than a diesel the whole time.
@@otm646 There is talk about degradation becoming a thing of the past and also ways of reversing the degradation of current batteries not to mention they expect 2x - 3x the capacity in batteries in the coming years not to mention fire issues going away but we'll see how it goes :) This channel is the best thing on TH-cam for this, we finally get to see these trucks in action doing normal work, not just set routes and city driving, its going and working as I expected all along but sadly so many people are still negative and base their claims on very out dated information.
They do not really ultra fast charging...in fact it is extremly slow, but sufficient to charge in the 45min of mandatory break each 4,5h in Europe. His IVECO has cross capacity of 738kwh and charges with 350kw...means 0,47C only. Even with MW Charging it would be only 0,7C. A Taycan charges at 3.2C, which is really fast charging.
Given the cost savings of EVs, I'll be stunned if they still sell diesel trucks by 2030. People who still run the old trucks will have their margins destroyed...
Many large trucking companies will do what we call slip seating. That’s where one driver will run 9 to 11 hours then park the truck at a facility, then a different driver will run another 9 to 11 hours. Companies regularly have trucks that average 4-5k miles a week with only a few hours of down time at a facility. The higher upfront cost of BEV trucks, along with having to install charging infrastructure is a huge driving force behind the slower adoption in the United States.
Thank you for showing that Electric Heavy Duty Trucks can do useful work without limitations. It sounds like Nano Janssen is fully committed to the future of Electric Trucking. If you get a chance to thank the management for allowing you to share your experiences with the rest of the world, please do. Your videos will be a key resource for "non-belivers" to see that Electric Trucking can be done!!!
or legacy trucking channels do the odd "are e-trucks really ready??" report which is 1 year old and features some no-longer-cutting-edge Volvo and people complaining in the coments that it's just not ready yet (i.e. relax petromasculine guy, you're lifetime achievement isn't threatened).
Hi buddy 😊 thanks for a fantastic video and showing us all the different types of electric trucks that are coming 👍🏻 I drive a DAF XF 106 diesel 🙄 It’s a shame I retire in 3 months at 68 so I’ll never drive the next generation of trucks but you’ll sure show us the future 👍🏻 Happy new year and thanks again for the video Stevie 🤩🏴
We enjoy your positivity and enthusiasm. We live in Australia and are involved as much as we can be with conversion to greener energy. We commented the other day after we watched your video that we would be happy to watch you even if we had no interest in your topic because of your positivity and enthusiasm. It is great to see the steps forward that Germany is making. V2G involving large trucks could be part of the energy future; what do you think?
Volvo has electric trucks in Australia already but they don't do interstate routes - they're more for local deliveries. I saw a video on youtube last week about it. Also a lot of Coles and Woolies shopping delivery trucks, and Temple and Webster vans are now all electric too.
This is the power of the EU. We can regulate across many countries and create standards so that everything works everywhere. The free movement of money means we can easily invest in infra across boarders. It's a win win win.
@@jonhroarulstad5775 The EU has a lot to learn, and it is still doing so. We are off course slow, as we are all very different nations there is allways alot of emphasis on the process of giving every country fair participation, so there is allways this overhead, but we try to constantly move, even if it's more of a walk than a sprint. From a Germany perpektive (I'm German), avoiding setback and stagnation is way more important than doing those leaps ahead.
Regarding EON chargers - or/and chargers in general, in my opinion there is no doubt whatsoever. If I were a FLEET operator, I would definitely choose the KEMPOWER solution with the satellite stations. Firstly, Kempower is known from the welding world, where for decades they have done not just good but extremely well. Their solution has a much greater granularity, and for a fleet operator there is so much control that can be done from the "office" including deciding whether a specific or several cars should be prioritized, and a fine-grained setup of charging, charging times in relation to electricity prices and much, much more. Up to 8 satellites (stands with plugs) can be connected to one power module. Each stand can be followed on a web page (no app required) and much, much more. It is so smart.
I watch every German video already but I always make sure to click and like every English video for the algorithm so that more people are educated about electric trucks and people finally stop talking about "Technologieoffenheit"
600 KW - that is a lot of power in those batteries. They should put ports on both sides of the trucks, and then only allow one charger port to open at a time. LFP cells don't use nickel, a expensive material to put in them. So they predict the cell cost will be about 1/2 of the cells that contain nickel. Tesla is also trying to avoid cobalt too. It will be great when they start to install more and more truck charging stations that you do not need to unhitch to charge! Even cars like to tow into a charging station! I was looking at the trailer with the electric axles, and thinking "If they had a OBDII port on the truck, it can tell the trailer what the driver's throttle position is, easy!" If you are taking a trailer load of stuff to a grocery store, while they unload the truck, a 50 amp disconnect at 480 volts can provide about 35 KW of charging for the couple of hours they are unloading the truck. Thanks for making all of these very informative video's! From Portland Oregon, USA.
Have you read about the Windrose E1400 lorry/truck/semi-truck On Chinese highways, the range is 670km on a single charge while loaded at 49,000kg. They are currently testing it in New Zealand and a friend got to ride in one.
@@mcsike7264indeed. With both the Tesla Semi and the new compact car planned for production in 2025, along with the new model Y, Tesla will need all the batteries they can get their hands on. Because of this, they're also producing their own. Even in Grünheide they're planning to make 4680 cells. They've also started their own Lithium refinery in the US to support it all.
@@grazsmith5916, Ford sold it's class 8 truck assembly plant to Sterling in the 1980's. It had not been profitable in America. The Europe truck is completely different. Europe Transit different than one made in America.
In the US we have what are known as day cabs which is what the Tesla Semi is currently, they are typically used for short 10 hours shifts where they go out and then return to a central location.
great coverage of IAA Tobias, you might just gain a few new followers once i show this video next week to my skeptical associates.🤙8:08 - yes that IS a surprise and be damned if that Ford Blue doesn't look good, it makes sense i guess given the strong market share they hold with E-Transits. 😎 although that might be fitted with full size 22.5" wheels and is a throwback to the "OG" Class-8 Ford 9000's from the 80's/90's, it'll be interesting to see if it's use expands OUTSIDE of Turkey to other parts of Europe (never mind to here in 'Murica).
That drive test showing the truck sets to speed limit automatically needs to come across to cars! The Australian E-Truck conversions have swap-out batteries from the start. What would be good would be offering upgrades to existing E-trucks - batteries and engine software such as those offered on Nissan Leaf cars? If E-trailers ran their fridge systems on electric that would make sleeping so much easier! Great video and very interesting. Happy New Year
What you need is a trailer that has latest tech. solar panels on them and with a retractable solar panel layout that can triple the solar panel area. While trailers are parked you can charge them without being a burden to the grid. This way you can tune your battery size to your trailer's weight. i gurantee you can double the lifetime of entire system this way. Even without solar panels, trailers with battery integrated to them means you can naturally cool them, easy access to the packs for replacement, more even weight distrubution etc... So many benefits that i cant list. If i was designing one , i wouldnt try to complicate the truck, i would definetely invest time on trailers. Unfortunately, i am not in that industry so this idea might be premature.. Especially solar panel idea relies on trailers parked at least 15hours to be fully charged with the latest solar tech. and trailer's top surface area. Update: LOL, while typing you just started talking about CATL trailers.. there you are, invest money on that but forget about battery swapping.
The Cypertruck presented and its lack of conformity with EU requirements is a clear indicator of top management's priorities and a great opportunity for European manufacturers. I hope they learned from their past mistakes and arrogance.
You mean the Tesla Semi? They confirmed months ago they'll have an European version as well as dedicated charging stations for trucks, a pain point raised on this channel. By the way, it's not Tesla's arrogance that caused the current crisis in the European automobile sector. I really see a lot of similarities with the European trucking business. Let's hope I'm wrong.
To be fair there's not an American truckmaker civilian or commercial who's focused on the European market. Timeless the only commercial truck make sure who I know of with any real presence and they use a sub brand Freightliner. And you can get some American trucks in Europe but it's extraordinarily rare. And you can't get European trucks here at all
@iamaduckquackIn Europe we don't bother what charging port the semi for the US is equipped with. Here are other limitations that prevent the widespread use of any US-Truck in Europe like the hard 18m length limit, which makes the actual Semi useless in Europe besides the lack of a sleeper cabin, which is mandatory for every long haul truck.
Why hybrid for long haul, Tobias is showing in his videos that any ICE component is already irrelevant for fully electric long haul trucking and that should be the goal for achieving phasing out of burning stuff sooner rather than later. US audience projecting their hopes on start ups like Edison with a big presence on social which are essientially tinkering around with retrofit prototypes is similar to their seeing the solution for HSR with companies like Brightline. The US at some point will have to onboard leadin-edge tech from markets that haven't been held back technologically because of protectionism. It'll be assembled stateside but to think that legacy truck makers (or railway companies) in the US can compete with EU and Asian makers at this point is far fetched.
Why the hybrid system? Hybrids have an advantage and stop and go traffic, that's it! A plug-in hybrid might do a little bit better, but not much. The purpose of Edison Motors is for the trucks that are beyond class 8! Classic trucks are up to 82,000 lb for the electric metals. Edison Motors has talked about removing single logs that are 120,000 lb, plus the way to the truck, plus trailer... Already, we have trucks that can handle a trucker's full day of driving on a single charge. Why are you trying to go beyond that? Adding any type of engine increases the maintenance, increases the fire risk, and increases the operating costs. No business wants to do that.
Unfortunately in Australia, we need 1000 to 1100km per day. Plus the infrastructure for charging overnight. I would be more than happy to drive an interstate run with an electric truck. 🤔
well i must say having more battery packs in the trailer is absolutely genius and not something i ever thought about. Does beg the question could tandem trucks have another battery pack on the roof of the tandem? could be possible
@@PeterOgden-h1k The Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2019 amended the statute at 23 U.S.C. 127(s) to allow electric heavy duty combination weight limit of 82,000 lbs to allow for batteries. At the time there were no commercial electric trailers. It is not unimaginable that the statute is amended again to allow for the additional weight of batteries in trailers.
I don't understand why you would want to batteries? They already have one semi that can handle a driver's legal full day of driving! The charging capabilities of that truck would allow you to actually have a smaller battery, and during the mandatory rest stop, you could recharge to increase your range.
Tesla semi Sleeper trucks will be required in Australia for longer trips across the country and within each state or territory’s. Non sleepers would be fine for city and shorter trips. Hopefully we will see these here soon as they have now got the regulations changed for the minor width increase of about 4 to 8 cm I think?
Doesn't need a tesla for sleeping. On his main German channel you'll find several videos documenting his week-long journey across Europe to the strait of Gibraltar with a co-pilot and both of them sleeping in the two beds in his IVECO. Auto-subtitles in EN work great
Was the Windrose truck there? It would be nice to know how it compares. The company was showcasing the truck here in Australia and New Zealand recently. Apparently they have tested it in Europe too.
14:40 do those trailers also have solar panels? And can they charge the electric semi while driving? And can they also drive slowly with a remote control, in hard parking situations? I hope they can also charge normally, so they can charge while loading and unloading attached to the buildings. 15:00 600kWh and 600km extra range? That's really efficiënt!
I see the limiting future developments in Electric trucking in the Uk as we have in the car industry. The vehicles will be technically advanced but hindered by the Infrastructure. Until Service areas are widespread and capable of utilizing regulated break times to charge, haulage companies won't accept trucks parked in lay by's then having to take an extra time out charging when it could be on the road earning. Limited Daily short runs who charge at base will be the default for the Uk
but that's what his channel is all about though. Showing that it's already possible with todays infra (don't know about the state of HPC infra across the UK). Sure, todays infra could't cope with a sudden (and unrealistic) shift of all truck haulage being done electrically. But as the proliferation of etrucks takes off so will the build up of charging infra. Pioneers like his company Nanno Jansen will gain a key advantage in operating expertise, cost savings an dattractivness to future drivers while others wait for things to be "ready".
I believe they filed for bankruptcy in the US and not in Europe. I'm not an accountant so i could be typing rubbish, but i believe the debt was transferred or is mainly based in the US.
If I am correctly informed, it is a problem with reliable production. That in turn led to them running out of funds. Let's hope they make it. Europe needs its battery companies to do well.
Generally speaking, the issue with this kind of electrified transportation is that time is momey and a full tank (or time filling it) provides more range than these LFPs. It remains to be seen if these increases costs are beat by lower battery and charging costs. We need more charging infrastructure but it seems to me these EV trucks are only viable right now for shorter trips, Europe would be a good application, the US, not so much...
you should watch more of his what-happened-last-week videos where he has proven again and again that with his IVECO the limiting factor is legal driving hours not battery capacity. Starting the day fully charged and taking one or two charging stops during those mandatory rests takes him all across Germany and beyond. Not yet on this EN channel you'll even find a report on a weeklong journey all the way to Malaga in Southern Spain he did with a co-pilot (EN auto-subtitles work great).
I disagree on one point i believe there is still lots of innovation to come before we leave the early phase of EV transport.We will see new cab designs, driver position , drive presents and multiple new batteries technologies and chemistry's
@matt45540 both move slow but once they move there is a burst of change, it takes 5 year plus got lab to product and there are a number of 3 and 4 year olds the big battery makers are releasing stuff this year to the car makers that is very different to the iron phosphate they are shipping now the state of the art in 2030 we make these early trucks look very poor that's the issue with early life development eg pc in the 1980to 2000s or mobiles over the same time lots of big changes now it's very much all the same with very few big leaps early mid life, ev car are entering this phase but truck I believe are not
I see a lot of small volume products, special editions of motors and gearboxes, and especially a lot of really primitive software. At Tesla I see re-use of existing technology like battery packs, motors, screens, cooling systems, AI, cameras and software. Also, Tesla semi charges at over 1MW, something very few European trucks can achieve. So, in short: prototypes are easy, profitable volume production is hard, and European makers: get your software skills up to speed.
@@davidlloyd1526 people with lots of numbers in their account say things like that. In reality Tesla are selling like crazy and are at the top of their game. They're making a lot of money and have no debt with $30B in the bank. Don't take your wishes for granted. People and companies will continue to buy what's best for themselves, not because of an expressed online opinion.
Hmm i don't think so its the only electric semi with 500 real world miles of range best software can be 82k pounds over 1000+hp bc using plaid motors more efficient amd far more aro and better safty if anything i seem em dominating
@@MattCasters if the tractor itself is far from eu compliant, the software is irrelevant. Additionally truckers usually do what they do as it is their daily job at the end of the day and they are not that reliant on the software.
@@velotillI don't understand why you would want a company to use technology that is no good? Hydrogen fuel prices are going up! The maintenance on hydrogen vehicles is very high, maintenance on the hydrogen fuel pumps are very high, making the vehicles themselves expensive to operate. This is not what a business wants in a vehicle
Genial tu ejemplo , saludos desde España , En Transbernal ( te esperamos cuando pases con tu nuevo mercedes E600 para recargarlo en mis instalaciones si lo necesitas , esta primavera espero tenerlas ya finalizadas y funcionado con potencias de carga de 400KWH YO también espero probar pronto en E600 . Un saludo .
@@thankyouforyourcompliance7386 on his main channel in German you'll already see his tour from Germany to Malaga and all the charging challenges en route. Auto-subtitles switched to EN translation work great
They forked over 100mil$ to sustain NV operations in Europe, same is true for Germanys continued support promising gov grants for the planned factory in Emden which happens somewhat independent of the chapter 11 proceedings in the US
That powered trailer with standard CATL battery swap packs is very interesting. would be worried that in 10 yrs those trailers will have AI Autonomous driving. No drivers required.
I doubt that the Tesla truck will ever become a thing in Europe. It's just too different to what people are used to. It's a techno version of old American trucks, and that's still way too far from the cabovers that we use in Europe.
Truck companies have long term serivce plans with particular manufacturers. Running a non-standard truck is a pain when it comes to parts and maintenance.
China actually has a rainbow of electric trucks, The guys at Edison motors got a tour of one of their electric truck manufacturing plants when they were over there looking for parts. They had everything from hub motors to totally standard trucks that just had an e motor thrown in still with a drive shaft and everything. They're very custom built for their use case over there. And to be fair there's not a lot of Chinese vehicles anywhere with any sort
It's really funny to see how all the incumbent manufacturers are offering great vehicles, and then you have Tesla that has only one truck that isn't even road legal...
@velotill exactly! And they think that somehow tesla, a company that has no idea about trucking, will make a better vehicle than manufacturers that know the industry inside out
I would like to save our planet as much as the next tree hugger and in a perfect world I would have solar & wind @ home to recharge my EV ride but thats out of my budget. A lot of nay sayers protest that the polluting is simply transferred from my ICE car to the local power plant but actually that is a step in the right direction. Here in California CARB keeps a close eye on all our power plants having long ago forced them to install clean air equipment to clean up their emissions, banning coal & they get regular emissions testing.. The big wealthy power companies can better afford that than I. My EV has no catalytic converter to steal or fail nor annual emissions testing all of which which I would have to pay for. So long story short when it comes to emissions - Not my problem owning an EV. I am still waiting for Ford to build me a Maverick Lightning. !
The biggest advantage of electric versus individual power plants and vehicles is it is easier to control the emissions. Instead of 1 million individual power plants they have to be regulated, you have three or four power plants generating the electricity that you need. It is much easier to inspect, and maintain 10 power stations than a million. From what I understand, a car driven on electricity generated by coal is still cleaner, but not by much. Once you factor in the distribution system emissions for liquid fuels versus electric, there's a large difference beginning the form. Once you start factoring him regenerative braking, that gap grows even further. If you are lucky enough to have on site power generation (wind, solar, your kid on a stationary bike powering a generator) your fuel cost dropped dramatically, as well as the emissions. Solar panels are not the cleanest product made by mankind, but the emissions produced is far less than the emissions avoided, therefore making them greener.
Tesla are completing their Semi factory which has a planned production capacity of 50.000 trucks per year, and they already confirmed that they'll deliver trucks adapted for the EU market. When push comes to shove, the technology and software from all the vendors we can see in this video are simply many years behind. In other words, it will be hard to avoid Tesla sooner or later.
@@MattCasters Erm... they are literally running these trucks now. And you can buy them in bulk now from the manufacturer's website. Also, they integrate with fleet servicing plans and routing software companies have owned for years... Musk is a good sales guy, but ultimately, Tesla has wasted its opportunity.
@davidlloyd1526 I've heard it all before in the car market. Don't say you weren't warned. Tesla doesn't compete with the few EV truck exceptions we're seeing here. They're competing with diesel trucks. They'll make money with their trucks as well. Until Scania, Mercedes, and the rest post profits, I won't hold my breath.
@@MattCasters LOL - Tesla sales crashed 60% in Europe thanks to Elon. Teslas are a good car, but Musk is a millstone (unless you want to signal that you are a MAGA nut)
Really interesting and impressive to see how heavy haulage vehicles in Europe appear to be embracing EV tech at a far faster pace than the US. Can’t see the current Tesla semi being used outside of Nth America, Mexico and Australia. It appears that the rest of the World uses EU truck design philosophy. Will be fantastic to see diesel trucks slowly disappear, with all their noxious air pollution and noise!
Where do the batteries come from. Personally I don't care where the tech comes from, ee should all be working together so that everyone can benefit from it istead of making everything a pathetic competition of them versus us, it's childish and outdated.
When one of these huge battery packs has a thermal run-away it will a beHUGE HUGE fire. which you can't put out. We need to move away from Li-Ion ASAP. LiFePO is much much safer battery. That is the way to go.
Cost per km is all that matters in the end. I'm interested in seeing how Tesla will deploy megachargers for trucks in the same way they built their supercharger network. That'll make or break a large part of the cost calculation versus other brands.
Maybe - but these trucks are available to buy and in use now. Most companies also have existing fleet maintenance contracts with existing suppliers, so Telsa's not in a good position to compete.
@@davidlloyd1526 there's only one thing that matters in trucking: money. If you think otherwise, you're deluded. Mass production at low cost will win this game, not being first. We've seen the same in EVs.
Many thanks to the guy/team who converts the German into the English version. Einen guten Rutsch 🥂
I know he dubs these to expand his market and couldn't possibly record English and German videos but I want to hear his real English. I bet he could do it
It’s himself, who converts and translates the videos to english language :)
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@@Morgysgta I was wandering about that : ) defo uses his voice
@@velotill i use the same ai as him, it replicates his voice
I work in the automotive industry, and it's exciting to see how the haulage industry is shaping up.
Its really crazy, soon we will be transporting thousands of tons of metal across europe in form of batteries. Also production of these batteries requires insane amounts of energy. So eco friendly 😀 I am really looking forward how this will develop, and it wont be nice, green eco maniacs are going to destroy this planet, in the name of ecology
@@peepa47 So you actually think burning hundreds of liters of diesel fuel each week is better than driving a electric truck?
With thinking like that, we might still have people not asking for gas cars, but the future is faster horses. It's not 1950 where steam is king of the locomotives!
Someday you will change.
@@peepa47luddites always existed, you hated the combustion car as well in its day😂
@@peepa47 You're right that it's not particularly efficient to haul a bunch of extra weight around in the form of batteries that don't burn away as you use them, like diesel does. And you're also right that batteries take a large amount of energy to make. But both of those things are drops in the bucket compared to the gargantuan energy wastage of combustion engines.
Modern diesel trucks get about 45% efficiency of converting chemical potential energy into power at the wheels. That means 55% of the energy in the diesel is lost as heat. In contrast, electric motors get about 95% efficiency, so they're wasting less than 1/10th as much of their onboard energy as a diesel does. This means that, in terms of CO2 per mile, a natural gas power plant providing electricity for an EV truck is *significantly* better for the environment than a diesel truck. And it just gets better as the grid gets greener, without having to get a new truck. Not to mention that electricity is much cheaper per mile than diesel is, too.
This also means that the higher up-front energy cost of creating batteries and motors vs creating diesel engines is made up for very early in the life of the truck, due to its far lower energy cost per mile driven. Since these trucks drive an average of more than 100,000 km per year, that up-front cost gets paid off FAST, after which the truck lives another 10+ years, being radically more efficient than a diesel the whole time.
Happy new year from Denmark,thanks for great content
1.2Million km battery warranty sounds good, especially for a commercial vehicle using ultra fast charging.
Warranty is great but we need to know what degradation percentage they are using to trigger a warranty claim. Without that information it's useless
@@otm646 There is talk about degradation becoming a thing of the past and also ways of reversing the degradation of current batteries not to mention they expect 2x - 3x the capacity in batteries in the coming years not to mention fire issues going away but we'll see how it goes :)
This channel is the best thing on TH-cam for this, we finally get to see these trucks in action doing normal work, not just set routes and city driving, its going and working as I expected all along but sadly so many people are still negative and base their claims on very out dated information.
@@otm646for cars that's between 70 and 80%
They do not really ultra fast charging...in fact it is extremly slow, but sufficient to charge in the 45min of mandatory break each 4,5h in Europe.
His IVECO has cross capacity of 738kwh and charges with 350kw...means 0,47C only. Even with MW Charging it would be only 0,7C.
A Taycan charges at 3.2C, which is really fast charging.
So much info in 1 video. Thank you for making this! Keep em coming!
Given the cost savings of EVs, I'll be stunned if they still sell diesel trucks by 2030. People who still run the old trucks will have their margins destroyed...
Especially considering some battery prototypes nowadays that are apparently not too difficult to mass produce can do up to 7 million km
Ice trucks can run 24 7 operation which is what a lot of haulage companies require something ev trucks can't do
@@PeterOgden-h1kthere will always be edge cases, but the bulk of the market will electrify. It is/will become so much cheaper than diesel
@@PeterOgden-h1k Battery swap is available if you need that, but I think it's an edge case - drivers need to eat and sleep too...
Many large trucking companies will do what we call slip seating. That’s where one driver will run 9 to 11 hours then park the truck at a facility, then a different driver will run another 9 to 11 hours. Companies regularly have trucks that average 4-5k miles a week with only a few hours of down time at a facility. The higher upfront cost of BEV trucks, along with having to install charging infrastructure is a huge driving force behind the slower adoption in the United States.
You should really try and get in touch with Kyle at Out Of Spec reviews. I'm sure he would love to highlight the EV truck progress in Europe.
Thank you for showing that Electric Heavy Duty Trucks can do useful work without limitations. It sounds like Nano Janssen is fully committed to the future of Electric Trucking. If you get a chance to thank the management for allowing you to share your experiences with the rest of the world, please do. Your videos will be a key resource for "non-belivers" to see that Electric Trucking can be done!!!
Really glad to see this kind of content. The EV media focuses on passenger cars, largely overlooking trucks and all the advancements being made.
or legacy trucking channels do the odd "are e-trucks really ready??" report which is 1 year old and features some no-longer-cutting-edge Volvo and people complaining in the coments that it's just not ready yet (i.e. relax petromasculine guy, you're lifetime achievement isn't threatened).
Hi buddy 😊 thanks for a fantastic video and showing us all the different types of electric trucks that are coming 👍🏻 I drive a DAF XF 106 diesel 🙄 It’s a shame I retire in 3 months at 68 so I’ll never drive the next generation of trucks but you’ll sure show us the future 👍🏻 Happy new year and thanks again for the video Stevie 🤩🏴
Sounds like the channel has almost inspired to come out of retirement!
Comment for the algorythm. Cause I saw the german version already :D
Wo denn, ich kann die Deutsche version nicht finden....
www.youtube.com/@elektrotrucker
We enjoy your positivity and enthusiasm. We live in Australia and are involved as much as we can be with conversion to greener energy. We commented the other day after we watched your video that we would be happy to watch you even if we had no interest in your topic because of your positivity and enthusiasm. It is great to see the steps forward that Germany is making. V2G involving large trucks could be part of the energy future; what do you think?
Thanks for posting these videos. In Australia I’m unaware of any electric truck operating. We are behind in adopting this tech.
I've seen videos of some company in Australia that's converting trucks to electric:
th-cam.com/video/9eYLtPSf7PY/w-d-xo.html
Volvo has electric trucks in Australia already but they don't do interstate routes - they're more for local deliveries. I saw a video on youtube last week about it. Also a lot of Coles and Woolies shopping delivery trucks, and Temple and Webster vans are now all electric too.
I too am very pleased that these videos are available in Australia!
This is the power of the EU. We can regulate across many countries and create standards so that everything works everywhere. The free movement of money means we can easily invest in infra across boarders. It's a win win win.
Can we send this comment to the USA.
@@johnmcinerney7645 no one over there has anything to learn from the old world.
@@jonhroarulstad5775 The EU has a lot to learn, and it is still doing so. We are off course slow, as we are all very different nations there is allways alot of emphasis on the process of giving every country fair participation, so there is allways this overhead, but we try to constantly move, even if it's more of a walk than a sprint.
From a Germany perpektive (I'm German), avoiding setback and stagnation is way more important than doing those leaps ahead.
Regarding EON chargers - or/and chargers in general, in my opinion there is no doubt whatsoever. If I were a FLEET operator, I would definitely choose the KEMPOWER solution with the satellite stations. Firstly, Kempower is known from the welding world, where for decades they have done not just good but extremely well. Their solution has a much greater granularity, and for a fleet operator there is so much control that can be done from the "office" including deciding whether a specific or several cars should be prioritized, and a fine-grained setup of charging, charging times in relation to electricity prices and much, much more. Up to 8 satellites (stands with plugs) can be connected to one power module. Each stand can be followed on a web page (no app required) and much, much more. It is so smart.
Just to clarify: EON is a network operator, Kempower a charging equipment manufacturer.
I watch every German video already but I always make sure to click and like every English video for the algorithm so that more people are educated about electric trucks and people finally stop talking about "Technologieoffenheit"
original more up-to-date German videos work ok with auto subtitles translated to EN
I watch them in English in Australia but I am tempted to watch them again in German even though I don't know the language.
Great coverage of the trade show! Thank you!
600 KW - that is a lot of power in those batteries. They should put ports on both sides of the trucks, and then only allow one charger port to open at a time.
LFP cells don't use nickel, a expensive material to put in them. So they predict the cell cost will be about 1/2 of the cells that contain nickel.
Tesla is also trying to avoid cobalt too.
It will be great when they start to install more and more truck charging stations that you do not need to unhitch to charge! Even cars like to tow into a charging station!
I was looking at the trailer with the electric axles, and thinking "If they had a OBDII port on the truck, it can tell the trailer what the driver's throttle position is, easy!" If you are taking a trailer load of stuff to a grocery store, while they unload the truck, a 50 amp disconnect at 480 volts can provide about 35 KW of charging for the couple of hours they are unloading the truck.
Thanks for making all of these very informative video's!
From Portland Oregon, USA.
What an excellent video! Thanks.
Nice to see the future ahead!
This guy is a gift for us. Amazingly useful content.
Awesome, thanks for providing a peek into the show, it definitely looks like the industry is on the verge of a major shift.
Thank you so much - this is so informative ❤
Great info! Thanks! Best wishes from the UK for the New Year!
Like this video very much, thank you
4:57 that is the older MCS version 2, production models will use the current MCS version 3
Have you read about the Windrose E1400 lorry/truck/semi-truck
On Chinese highways, the range is 670km on a single charge while loaded at 49,000kg.
They are currently testing it in New Zealand and a friend got to ride in one.
Tesla Semi copy is out before the original 😂.
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That's why the Edison guys decided to build their own ..Topsy logging truck now moving into gen two Topsy and crowd funded.
Love to see them making fully electric trucks! LFP (Lithium Iron Phosphate, so only great metals) batteries are amazing as well :)
They're all using whatever they can buy. At this point, Tesla is the only manufacturer left that makes their own battery cells. It's quite concerning.
@@MattCasters Tesla also buys batterys from CATL also Panasonic and byd they only put 4680 in like 2 of there models
@@mcsike7264indeed. With both the Tesla Semi and the new compact car planned for production in 2025, along with the new model Y, Tesla will need all the batteries they can get their hands on.
Because of this, they're also producing their own. Even in Grünheide they're planning to make 4680 cells. They've also started their own Lithium refinery in the US to support it all.
LITHIUM FERRO PHOSPHATE.
Thanks for highlighting the value of electric trucks
Very interesting to see the FORD E-TRUCK! I like the Merc test drive toi great assist features!
@@grazsmith5916, Ford sold it's class 8 truck assembly plant to Sterling in the 1980's. It had not been profitable in America. The Europe truck is completely different.
Europe Transit different than one made in America.
In the US we have what are known as day cabs which is what the Tesla Semi is currently, they are typically used for short 10 hours shifts where they go out and then return to a central location.
Nice presentation. Thanks.
Thx for your great work
great coverage of IAA Tobias, you might just gain a few new followers once i show this video next week to my skeptical associates.🤙8:08 - yes that IS a surprise and be damned if that Ford Blue doesn't look good, it makes sense i guess given the strong market share they hold with E-Transits. 😎 although that might be fitted with full size 22.5" wheels and is a throwback to the "OG" Class-8 Ford 9000's from the 80's/90's, it'll be interesting to see if it's use expands OUTSIDE of Turkey to other parts of Europe (never mind to here in 'Murica).
That drive test showing the truck sets to speed limit automatically needs to come across to cars! The Australian E-Truck conversions have swap-out batteries from the start. What would be good would be offering upgrades to existing E-trucks - batteries and engine software such as those offered on Nissan Leaf cars? If E-trailers ran their fridge systems on electric that would make sleeping so much easier! Great video and very interesting. Happy New Year
The mirrors should be able to access a camera on the back of the trailer. Make backing up to a dock much easier.
Great video!
Excellent information.
If you look at the back of the Tesla semi truck ,its designed for sleeper cabin ,just needs outer panel,the structure is in place.
Excellent reference for the future since you as a user reviewed the new tech.
Do you know how many electric trucks are currently on European roads?
11:44 LMAO at England only getting one station
No surprise really, backwards Britain being left behind by Europe.
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What you need is a trailer that has latest tech. solar panels on them and with a retractable solar panel layout that can triple the solar panel area. While trailers are parked you can charge them without being a burden to the grid. This way you can tune your battery size to your trailer's weight. i gurantee you can double the lifetime of entire system this way. Even without solar panels, trailers with battery integrated to them means you can naturally cool them, easy access to the packs for replacement, more even weight distrubution etc... So many benefits that i cant list.
If i was designing one , i wouldnt try to complicate the truck, i would definetely invest time on trailers.
Unfortunately, i am not in that industry so this idea might be premature.. Especially solar panel idea relies on trailers parked at least 15hours to be fully charged with the latest solar tech. and trailer's top surface area.
Update: LOL, while typing you just started talking about CATL trailers.. there you are, invest money on that but forget about battery swapping.
omg this actros platform will revolutionize the RV market in europe as well 😎
I’m impressed with the KEMPOWER solution. I think it is the way to go.
I do not trust that company I trust ALPITRONIC far more.
@ genuinely interested - why do you find it untrustworthy?
KEMPOWER have the best, most reliable chargers in my experience all over Europe.
@@honesty_-no9he Kempower's parent company Kemppi has been in operation since 1949.
The Cypertruck presented and its lack of conformity with EU requirements is a clear indicator of top management's priorities and a great opportunity for European manufacturers. I hope they learned from their past mistakes and arrogance.
You mean the Tesla Semi? They confirmed months ago they'll have an European version as well as dedicated charging stations for trucks, a pain point raised on this channel.
By the way, it's not Tesla's arrogance that caused the current crisis in the European automobile sector. I really see a lot of similarities with the European trucking business. Let's hope I'm wrong.
To be fair there's not an American truckmaker civilian or commercial who's focused on the European market. Timeless the only commercial truck make sure who I know of with any real presence and they use a sub brand Freightliner. And you can get some American trucks in Europe but it's extraordinarily rare. And you can't get European trucks here at all
@@matt45540 surely that's true. But it's hard to argue that the technology is different in the case of electrical trucks.
@@MattCasterstesla shouldn't be allowed to use their own proprietary charging plugs.
@iamaduckquackIn Europe we don't bother what charging port the semi for the US is equipped with. Here are other limitations that prevent the widespread use of any US-Truck in Europe like the hard 18m length limit, which makes the actual Semi useless in Europe besides the lack of a sleeper cabin, which is mandatory for every long haul truck.
3:06 Hybrid for the long haul would be great. Like an Edison.
Why hybrid for long haul, Tobias is showing in his videos that any ICE component is already irrelevant for fully electric long haul trucking and that should be the goal for achieving phasing out of burning stuff sooner rather than later.
US audience projecting their hopes on start ups like Edison with a big presence on social which are essientially tinkering around with retrofit prototypes is similar to their seeing the solution for HSR with companies like Brightline.
The US at some point will have to onboard leadin-edge tech from markets that haven't been held back technologically because of protectionism. It'll be assembled stateside but to think that legacy truck makers (or railway companies) in the US can compete with EU and Asian makers at this point is far fetched.
The long haul in Aus is a tad different than in Europe.
Why the hybrid system? Hybrids have an advantage and stop and go traffic, that's it! A plug-in hybrid might do a little bit better, but not much.
The purpose of Edison Motors is for the trucks that are beyond class 8! Classic trucks are up to 82,000 lb for the electric metals. Edison Motors has talked about removing single logs that are 120,000 lb, plus the way to the truck, plus trailer...
Already, we have trucks that can handle a trucker's full day of driving on a single charge. Why are you trying to go beyond that? Adding any type of engine increases the maintenance, increases the fire risk, and increases the operating costs. No business wants to do that.
Yes... Long haul, not many chargers out bush.
Would the charge port be better placed at the front centre of all trucks for better access to public charging?
The ev revolution is the best revolution by far let’s make the earth green in 2025 by making ev great for the world
Herpa even have electric trucks too, I might have to buy them to enhance my collection I bought when I was a child in Germany.
A bery interesting post. Any idea if Sodium ion batteries are going to be introduced into trucks?
Unfortunately in Australia, we need 1000 to 1100km per day.
Plus the infrastructure for charging overnight.
I would be more than happy to drive an interstate run with an electric truck. 🤔
Swap the cabs/batteries. That's 10 hours of driving, though.
well i must say having more battery packs in the trailer is absolutely genius and not something i ever thought about. Does beg the question could tandem trucks have another battery pack on the roof of the tandem? could be possible
Not something for most use cases as those batteries are heavy
More baterys means less freight witch is trucking companies make money 😂
@@PeterOgden-h1k The Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2019 amended the statute at 23 U.S.C. 127(s) to allow electric heavy duty combination weight limit of 82,000 lbs to allow for batteries. At the time there were no commercial electric trailers. It is not unimaginable that the statute is amended again to allow for the additional weight of batteries in trailers.
I don't understand why you would want to batteries? They already have one semi that can handle a driver's legal full day of driving! The charging capabilities of that truck would allow you to actually have a smaller battery, and during the mandatory rest stop, you could recharge to increase your range.
Tesla semi Sleeper trucks will be required in Australia for longer trips across the country and within each state or territory’s. Non sleepers would be fine for city and shorter trips. Hopefully we will see these here soon as they have now got the regulations changed for the minor width increase of about 4 to 8 cm I think?
Doesn't need a tesla for sleeping. On his main German channel you'll find several videos documenting his week-long journey across Europe to the strait of Gibraltar with a co-pilot and both of them sleeping in the two beds in his IVECO.
Auto-subtitles in EN work great
Was the Windrose truck there? It would be nice to know how it compares. The company was showcasing the truck here in Australia and New Zealand recently. Apparently they have tested it in Europe too.
14:40 do those trailers also have solar panels? And can they charge the electric semi while driving? And can they also drive slowly with a remote control, in hard parking situations?
I hope they can also charge normally, so they can charge while loading and unloading attached to the buildings.
15:00 600kWh and 600km extra range? That's really efficiënt!
I see the limiting future developments in Electric trucking in the Uk as we have in the car industry. The vehicles will be technically advanced but hindered by the Infrastructure. Until Service areas are widespread and capable of utilizing regulated break times to charge, haulage companies won't accept trucks parked in lay by's then having to take an extra time out charging when it could be on the road earning. Limited Daily short runs who charge at base will be the default for the Uk
but that's what his channel is all about though. Showing that it's already possible with todays infra (don't know about the state of HPC infra across the UK).
Sure, todays infra could't cope with a sudden (and unrealistic) shift of all truck haulage being done electrically. But as the proliferation of etrucks takes off so will the build up of charging infra.
Pioneers like his company Nanno Jansen will gain a key advantage in operating expertise, cost savings an dattractivness to future drivers while others wait for things to be "ready".
@velotill UK a long way off. We've got 2 DAF rigid 18t at work electric and their limitations are infrastructure
I love the idea of electric trailer but after asking the representative at the stand he indicated it will cost well above €200,000
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How are LFP batteries recycled?
Not really sure if it's economically viable for Tesla to enter the European e-truck market seeing how stiff the competition already is.
Considering Northvolt bankruptcy, will Scania also start to use CATL batteries for the next models ?
I believe they filed for bankruptcy in the US and not in Europe. I'm not an accountant so i could be typing rubbish, but i believe the debt was transferred or is mainly based in the US.
If I am correctly informed, it is a problem with reliable production. That in turn led to them running out of funds. Let's hope they make it. Europe needs its battery companies to do well.
Generally speaking, the issue with this kind of electrified transportation is that time is momey and a full tank (or time filling it) provides more range than these LFPs. It remains to be seen if these increases costs are beat by lower battery and charging costs. We need more charging infrastructure but it seems to me these EV trucks are only viable right now for shorter trips, Europe would be a good application, the US, not so much...
you should watch more of his what-happened-last-week videos where he has proven again and again that with his IVECO the limiting factor is legal driving hours not battery capacity. Starting the day fully charged and taking one or two charging stops during those mandatory rests takes him all across Germany and beyond.
Not yet on this EN channel you'll even find a report on a weeklong journey all the way to Malaga in Southern Spain he did with a co-pilot (EN auto-subtitles work great).
There's so much more variety of electric utility vehicles in China for many years now
Lets gooooo! :D
I disagree on one point i believe there is still lots of innovation to come before we leave the early phase of EV transport.We will see new cab designs, driver position , drive presents and multiple new batteries technologies and chemistry's
The problem with cab changes and driver position is regulations, And while there will be new batteries, the rollout is always so slow
@matt45540 both move slow but once they move there is a burst of change, it takes 5 year plus got lab to product and there are a number of 3 and 4 year olds the big battery makers are releasing stuff this year to the car makers that is very different to the iron phosphate they are shipping now the state of the art in 2030 we make these early trucks look very poor that's the issue with early life development eg pc in the 1980to 2000s or mobiles over the same time lots of big changes now it's very much all the same with very few big leaps early mid life, ev car are entering this phase but truck I believe are not
I actually feel like the eu market offer is far ahead of the tesla semi, they don't even have a chance here.
I see a lot of small volume products, special editions of motors and gearboxes, and especially a lot of really primitive software. At Tesla I see re-use of existing technology like battery packs, motors, screens, cooling systems, AI, cameras and software. Also, Tesla semi charges at over 1MW, something very few European trucks can achieve.
So, in short: prototypes are easy, profitable volume production is hard, and European makers: get your software skills up to speed.
@@MattCasters All I see at the moment is people fleeing from associating themselves Elon Musk.
@@davidlloyd1526 people with lots of numbers in their account say things like that. In reality Tesla are selling like crazy and are at the top of their game. They're making a lot of money and have no debt with $30B in the bank. Don't take your wishes for granted. People and companies will continue to buy what's best for themselves, not because of an expressed online opinion.
Hmm i don't think so its the only electric semi with 500 real world miles of range best software can be 82k pounds over 1000+hp bc using plaid motors more efficient amd far more aro and better safty if anything i seem em dominating
@@MattCasters if the tractor itself is far from eu compliant, the software is irrelevant. Additionally truckers usually do what they do as it is their daily job at the end of the day and they are not that reliant on the software.
Nikola Motor bankrupt Q1 2025 🚩‼️
seems fine, as long as their IP is absorbed and applied within IVECO etrucks
@@velotillI don't understand why you would want a company to use technology that is no good? Hydrogen fuel prices are going up! The maintenance on hydrogen vehicles is very high, maintenance on the hydrogen fuel pumps are very high, making the vehicles themselves expensive to operate. This is not what a business wants in a vehicle
Nothing beats diesel . 15 minutes and 3000km autonomy. Goodluck beating that.
Genial tu ejemplo , saludos desde España , En Transbernal ( te esperamos cuando pases con tu nuevo mercedes E600 para recargarlo en mis instalaciones si lo necesitas , esta primavera espero tenerlas ya finalizadas y funcionado con potencias de carga de 400KWH
YO también espero probar pronto en E600 . Un saludo .
Another Spain episode would be fantastic. Something like Norway to Spain would be spectacular.
@@thankyouforyourcompliance7386 on his main channel in German you'll already see his tour from Germany to Malaga and all the charging challenges en route. Auto-subtitles switched to EN translation work great
Alpitronic every time.
What is Scania doing now, given that Northvolt is bankrupt?
They forked over 100mil$ to sustain NV operations in Europe, same is true for Germanys continued support promising gov grants for the planned factory in Emden which happens somewhat independent of the chapter 11 proceedings in the US
That powered trailer with standard CATL battery swap packs is very interesting. would be worried that in 10 yrs those trailers will have AI Autonomous driving. No drivers required.
I doubt that the Tesla truck will ever become a thing in Europe. It's just too different to what people are used to. It's a techno version of old American trucks, and that's still way too far from the cabovers that we use in Europe.
Where are the 4x4 trucks and Chinese trucks, it is weird that China seems to be behind in this area, I would expect them to be ahead.
They supply the batteries
Truck companies have long term serivce plans with particular manufacturers. Running a non-standard truck is a pain when it comes to parts and maintenance.
China actually has a rainbow of electric trucks, The guys at Edison motors got a tour of one of their electric truck manufacturing plants when they were over there looking for parts. They had everything from hub motors to totally standard trucks that just had an e motor thrown in still with a drive shaft and everything. They're very custom built for their use case over there. And to be fair there's not a lot of Chinese vehicles anywhere with any sort
They are taking photo to copy other design
Check out Windrose, a Tesla Semi copy.
It's really funny to see how all the incumbent manufacturers are offering great vehicles, and then you have Tesla that has only one truck that isn't even road legal...
and all the fanbois projecting "just wait for the tesla semi to save us all..."
@velotill exactly! And they think that somehow tesla, a company that has no idea about trucking, will make a better vehicle than manufacturers that know the industry inside out
How many kWh per kilo/
According to my Android device, a Tesla semi is 1.1 kilowatts per kilometer.
Ford was funny. Unexpected.
Yes, and you can install a charger in 2056😀
I would like to save our planet as much as the next tree hugger and in a perfect world I would have solar & wind @
home to recharge my EV ride but thats out of my budget. A lot of nay sayers protest that the polluting is simply
transferred from my ICE car to the local power plant but actually that is a step in the right direction. Here in
California CARB keeps a close eye on all our power plants having long ago forced them to install clean air
equipment to clean up their emissions, banning coal & they get regular emissions testing.. The big wealthy power
companies can better afford that than I. My EV has no catalytic converter to steal or fail nor annual emissions
testing all of which which I would have to pay for. So long story short when it comes to emissions - Not my
problem owning an EV. I am still waiting for Ford to build me a Maverick Lightning.
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The biggest advantage of electric versus individual power plants and vehicles is it is easier to control the emissions. Instead of 1 million individual power plants they have to be regulated, you have three or four power plants generating the electricity that you need. It is much easier to inspect, and maintain 10 power stations than a million.
From what I understand, a car driven on electricity generated by coal is still cleaner, but not by much. Once you factor in the distribution system emissions for liquid fuels versus electric, there's a large difference beginning the form. Once you start factoring him regenerative braking, that gap grows even further. If you are lucky enough to have on site power generation (wind, solar, your kid on a stationary bike powering a generator) your fuel cost dropped dramatically, as well as the emissions. Solar panels are not the cleanest product made by mankind, but the emissions produced is far less than the emissions avoided, therefore making them greener.
If I was someone buying trucks I would stay as far away as possible from that crazy ass Elon Musk
Tesla are completing their Semi factory which has a planned production capacity of 50.000 trucks per year, and they already confirmed that they'll deliver trucks adapted for the EU market.
When push comes to shove, the technology and software from all the vendors we can see in this video are simply many years behind.
In other words, it will be hard to avoid Tesla sooner or later.
@@MattCasters Erm... they are literally running these trucks now. And you can buy them in bulk now from the manufacturer's website. Also, they integrate with fleet servicing plans and routing software companies have owned for years...
Musk is a good sales guy, but ultimately, Tesla has wasted its opportunity.
@davidlloyd1526 I've heard it all before in the car market. Don't say you weren't warned. Tesla doesn't compete with the few EV truck exceptions we're seeing here. They're competing with diesel trucks. They'll make money with their trucks as well. Until Scania, Mercedes, and the rest post profits, I won't hold my breath.
@@MattCasters LOL - Tesla sales crashed 60% in Europe thanks to Elon. Teslas are a good car, but Musk is a millstone (unless you want to signal that you are a MAGA nut)
@@MattCasters Telsa sales are down 60% in Europe thanks to Musk. Noone wants to be driving his cars. Especially in Germany now...
Really interesting and impressive to see how heavy haulage vehicles in Europe appear to be embracing EV tech at a far faster pace than the US. Can’t see the current Tesla semi being used outside of Nth America, Mexico and Australia. It appears that the rest of the World uses EU truck design philosophy. Will be fantastic to see diesel trucks slowly disappear, with all their noxious air pollution and noise!
Going to be 5 years before Tesla Semi arrives in Europe
and yet fanbbois be projecting fully ignoring Elmo becoming a no-no in polite society
How backward is that island between Ireland and Denmark is.
So funny to see all the Chinese representatives there trying to copy the tech
Where do the batteries come from. Personally I don't care where the tech comes from, ee should all be working together so that everyone can benefit from it istead of making everything a pathetic competition of them versus us, it's childish and outdated.
@GaryV-p3h competition, and the fight for the customers money drives innovation and progress.
@@skodbolle the most successful species on on the planet are those who work collectively for the benefit of the entire colony.
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When one of these huge battery packs has a thermal run-away it will a beHUGE HUGE fire. which you can't put out. We need to move away from Li-Ion ASAP. LiFePO is much much safer battery. That is the way to go.
A veicle whit zero botton and all on screen is very dangerous
The transport company Poul Schou A/S has secretly had Europe's first Tesla truck delivered to its address in Odense SV.
that was a 1. april joke. They only got a toy truck.
🤩🤩EU truck designs are the best in the world... usa trucks trash and ugly🤮
Mercedes e-Actros looks a bit plain in the front. Probably would look better with a (futuristic looking) sticker grille.
EV hype is soon over! There is an endless supply of diesel, raw materials for EVs are limited... so the costs will rise enormously!😅
As a Tesla (car) owner I would never trust Mu$k and never buy a Tesla or anything he is involved with.
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what is your actual language
German
He also has a german channel with the same videos.
@@gerbre1 okay thank you
@@gerbre1 what the channel name?
@@Sathish_90 Elektrotrucker, link in the channel info of this channel
No, 2025 will not be amazing for E Trucks. The will plod along as a small % of annual sales. They will be a niche product.
I don't see how anyone would wanna drive the Tesla, it looks extremely boring. But I guess their main goal is removing the driver from the truck.
The merc looks good. The tesla looks absolutely awful. Not that that's important with a truck.
Cost per km is all that matters in the end. I'm interested in seeing how Tesla will deploy megachargers for trucks in the same way they built their supercharger network. That'll make or break a large part of the cost calculation versus other brands.
@@MattCasters In Europe Tesla is behind in both in producing Truck and developing truck charging network.
Tesla Semi looks awesome. Windrose E1400 too. All other trucks look ugly.
@@bhabbott Tesla looks hideous. Tesla will have to redesign it in Europe.
Everyone knows this Tesla range is 800 km or 500 miles. They’ll start to produce it in September when the Nevada factory is ready, or 50k per year.
Maybe - but these trucks are available to buy and in use now. Most companies also have existing fleet maintenance contracts with existing suppliers, so Telsa's not in a good position to compete.
@@davidlloyd1526 there's only one thing that matters in trucking: money. If you think otherwise, you're deluded. Mass production at low cost will win this game, not being first. We've seen the same in EVs.
@@davidlloyd1526they are selling some 100 to Pepsi and some to other companies for testing in there fleet
I would like to see that in real life driven by someone not on Tesla's payroll .
@@callumcurtis15 Pepsi has 100 of em also videos of em driving on the highway by ppl with the fredolay or Pepsi logo on em
1:47 You gotta stop regurgitating propaganda. The volumetric and gravimetric density of LFP is garbage compared to NMC
The cycle life is high.