This is quite confusing, matt affleck suggests, betting small when there is a flush draw/connected cards on flop. However Jon, you suggested to bet big (Pot size)/Overpot when there is a dynamic board. Which is right?
The part about the CO vs BTN reminded me of something I got taught once. The closer to you the other person in the hand is, the more checking we do. The further away they are, the more cbetting we do.
21:47 it's very hard to understand what hands, ranges and bet sizes you're referring to during these with all the clicking around thru screens. Can you pin the hand/table cards somehow moving forward ??
I've noticed some somewhat contradictory info here regarding bet sizing on flush draw/connected boards, on multiple occasions throughout your videos I have heard you suggest to bet big on these boards, but Matt seems to suggest the opposite here. Was hoping for a bit of an elaboration if possible. Cheers and thanks for the content!
@estranged12 Yea you're implication is just wrong. You size down on boards like that...not up. You're lighting money on fire. All you're doing when you overbet fd boards is isolating yourself against hands with great equity against you or hands that have you crushed. You open JJ - mp. Button calls. Flop Comes Th - 8h - 5c. You mindlessly overbet the pot every time in this spot. What hands are you folding and what hands are calling. Well . . . A8s, K8s, Q8s, J8s, 98s, 78s, 99, 77, 66...Fold. Congrats - You folded out hands that you had dominated where you could have made more. Best case scenario with how bad your bet sizing is... AT, KT, QT may call. But , TT, 88, 55 will call and your crushed. Good flush draws like A9h, K9h, Q9h call...all having great equity against you. What happens when you do thus with JJ, and the turn brings a heart. Now your checking because "He got there - They always get there" runs across your mind. They bet, and sometimes you grudgingly call hoping they are bluffing. On the flip side of this, in the same situation, if you would have bet smaller.... All of those big equity hands are still giving you action, however, thise hands that you DOMINATE, that just fold to your over bet scared of flush draw bet sizing now calls. Those lower pocket pairs peel. The middle pairs peel...etc. You extract way more value this way. Also, when the turn completes the flush, you're not petrified of it because :Yea:, sometimes they get there, but also, because you sized down on the flop, their range isn't overloaded with just flushes. Flush completers aren't as bad anymore because they still have pocket pairs, middle pair and etc. I'm essence - charging draws is a flawed concept in a lot of cases. They are calling anyway. You should size down in some spots to stop isolating yourself against hands that have great equity against you. Check out pokergiraffe on youtube.
This is the best breakdown for bet sizing I've come across. The small game vs. big game, and the balance between the two is a great way to think about bet sizing on all streets.
@29:30 Matt says the Cut Off wins the big game but then proceeds to demonstrate that the IP player has the strongest range in this scenario. IP player in this instance is the Button, no? Could you please clarify this for me, I believe Matt just mis-spoke but it's confusing me a little bit. Thanks.
I believe this was Matt misspeaking, but I am also still confused. He says the button’s range is tighter, but shouldn’t he have said more condensed? The cutoff surely has all TT+ and AQ+ which are most of the effective nuts here - because these hands would have been 3-bet pre by the cutoff (KQ seems to be mixing here).
@@PokerCoaching Hello! In this video Matt says that when you have strong pair, you should bet small on flop on boards with a lot of draws so you dont narrow their ranges to combo draws. However in your video "3 MISTAKES to AVOID with Ace King" you say specifically that you should bet BIG on dynamic boards with a lot of draws when you have strong pairs (like AK when flop AJ6 with two spades). Arent you contradicting eachother?
Wining the Big Game means that the top portion of your range has an equity advantage over the top portion of your opponents range. Winning the Small Game means that the bottom portion of your range has an equity advantage over the bottom portion of your opponents range. The most common cases are you have the overpairs / top pair better kickers to win the big game. And winning the small game just means you have less air (hands that have almost no equity like under cards with no draws).
This is just theory, not applicable. This is a solver, nothing to do with humans or their reasoning/ranges. You don't understand this content because it has low to zero value to a pokerplayer. "The opponent" or "villain" are not general at all. Thats why people dont understand this solvercrap. It does not take any note of player styles, leaks, tells, mood, tilt, aggression, ranges etc. I am just happy people are trying to apply this to their game. More money for me. And don't tell its about GTO and then you "exploit". Heard it everywhere but no one knows what they are saying, just rinse and repeat someone elses words.
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post flop game in 3 bet pots. Betsizing, and bet frequency.
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This is quite confusing, matt affleck suggests, betting small when there is a flush draw/connected cards on flop. However Jon, you suggested to bet big (Pot size)/Overpot when there is a dynamic board. Which is right?
@@MrRenguardthat is exactly what is confusing me as well. Very contradictory info
I would actually like to see more on this topic. Hearing the same stuff in a different way might help digesting this stuff a little better.
The part about the CO vs BTN reminded me of something I got taught once.
The closer to you the other person in the hand is, the more checking we do.
The further away they are, the more cbetting we do.
21:47 it's very hard to understand what hands, ranges and bet sizes you're referring to during these with all the clicking around thru screens. Can you pin the hand/table cards somehow moving forward ??
Great content Matt - Would love to see a part 2 especially focusing on turn and river
The amount of knowledge in this video is off the charts. Great job, Matt!
I'm a little confused at the Button vs. Big Blind Flop example. Does it say what happened preflop?
I've noticed some somewhat contradictory info here regarding bet sizing on flush draw/connected boards, on multiple occasions throughout your videos I have heard you suggest to bet big on these boards, but Matt seems to suggest the opposite here. Was hoping for a bit of an elaboration if possible. Cheers and thanks for the content!
He likes to give FD and SDs cheap looks at the turn and river for some reason.
@estranged12
Yea you're implication is just wrong. You size down on boards like that...not up. You're lighting money on fire.
All you're doing when you overbet fd boards is isolating yourself against hands with great equity against you or hands that have you crushed.
You open JJ - mp.
Button calls.
Flop Comes Th - 8h - 5c.
You mindlessly overbet the pot every time in this spot. What hands are you folding and what hands are calling.
Well . . . A8s, K8s, Q8s, J8s, 98s, 78s, 99, 77, 66...Fold.
Congrats - You folded out hands that you had dominated where you could have made more.
Best case scenario with how bad your bet sizing is... AT, KT, QT may call.
But , TT, 88, 55 will call and your crushed. Good flush draws like A9h, K9h, Q9h call...all having great equity against you.
What happens when you do thus with JJ, and the turn brings a heart. Now your checking because "He got there - They always get there" runs across your mind. They bet, and sometimes you grudgingly call hoping they are bluffing.
On the flip side of this, in the same situation, if you would have bet smaller....
All of those big equity hands are still giving you action, however, thise hands that you DOMINATE, that just fold to your over bet scared of flush draw bet sizing now calls.
Those lower pocket pairs peel.
The middle pairs peel...etc.
You extract way more value this way.
Also, when the turn completes the flush, you're not petrified of it because :Yea:, sometimes they get there, but also, because you sized down on the flop, their range isn't overloaded with just flushes. Flush completers aren't as bad anymore because they still have pocket pairs, middle pair and etc.
I'm essence - charging draws is a flawed concept in a lot of cases. They are calling anyway. You should size down in some spots to stop isolating yourself against hands that have great equity against you.
Check out pokergiraffe on youtube.
Matt always provides straightforward quality content! 🤝
Matt always gives solid poker education & I'm here to learn. Thanks again from Canberra.
This is the best breakdown for bet sizing I've come across. The small game vs. big game, and the balance between the two is a great way to think about bet sizing on all streets.
I'm so glad you think so, Jeff!
the graphics and the different effects are a nice touch. good video
24:30 He says we should bet smaller on wet/connected boards. I thought Jonathan said to bet larger on these types of boards.
Man I am definitely over cbetting OOP vs flats, those ranges are not was wide as I would have thought.
why does the bb range not contain any of the higher equity hands like aa, or kk?
This is a single raise pot and AA and KK 3bet so there is no AA KK left.
Matt Affleck is such a good poker coach
Range is reduced potentially 34:43
Holy shit this some advanced stuff right here. Matt really understands ranges well depending on bet sizes
@PokerCoaching can you send me link for downloading that software?
Amazing content. Thank you.
Much appreciated!
amazing video, not too easy to understand however once understood very interesting concept
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it
Johnathan little book says complete opposite on connected boards
Great stuff, watching this video was such a +EV decision
@29:30 Matt says the Cut Off wins the big game but then proceeds to demonstrate that the IP player has the strongest range in this scenario. IP player in this instance is the Button, no? Could you please clarify this for me, I believe Matt just mis-spoke but it's confusing me a little bit. Thanks.
I believe this was Matt misspeaking, but I am also still confused. He says the button’s range is tighter, but shouldn’t he have said more condensed? The cutoff surely has all TT+ and AQ+ which are most of the effective nuts here - because these hands would have been 3-bet pre by the cutoff (KQ seems to be mixing here).
48:05 - Bet Sizing: A Summary : video is cut short
Thanks, this was helpful and to the point!
I feel it’s a beautiful content, but still the guy didn’t explained in a clear way. How many of you didn’t completely understand?
Just you…you DONK. Get rekt
Yes same I didn't get half of it, I think it is content for upper intermediate players
I agree the content is great but he explained it poorly
Explained perfectly. What didn't you understand
Great video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@PokerCoaching Hello! In this video Matt says that when you have strong pair, you should bet small on flop on boards with a lot of draws so you dont narrow their ranges to combo draws. However in your video "3 MISTAKES to AVOID with Ace King" you say specifically that you should bet BIG on dynamic boards with a lot of draws when you have strong pairs (like AK when flop AJ6 with two spades). Arent you contradicting eachother?
Whats the name of the program he uses ?
PioSolver
I found one bonus fry in the bag while watching this. Feeling lucky already 😅
Thanks, Matt
I'm more confused now than before I started watching the video.
What's the program he's using here?
PioSolver
could someone help me understand the definition of big game and small game here?
It's his way of talking about betting large or small and what situations you use these bets
thank you @@foraminutethere23
Wining the Big Game means that the top portion of your range has an equity advantage over the top portion of your opponents range. Winning the Small Game means that the bottom portion of your range has an equity advantage over the bottom portion of your opponents range. The most common cases are you have the overpairs / top pair better kickers to win the big game. And winning the small game just means you have less air (hands that have almost no equity like under cards with no draws).
thank you so much! @@connorcrump3825
Just won a tournament using these strategies….
Wow this was too deep for me….
In his book completely opposite so confusing
This is just theory, not applicable. This is a solver, nothing to do with humans or their reasoning/ranges.
You don't understand this content because it has low to zero value to a pokerplayer. "The opponent" or "villain" are not general at all. Thats why people dont understand this solvercrap. It does not take any note of player styles, leaks, tells, mood, tilt, aggression, ranges etc. I am just happy people are trying to apply this to their game. More money for me.
And don't tell its about GTO and then you "exploit". Heard it everywhere but no one knows what they are saying, just rinse and repeat someone elses words.
He literally goes through the reasoning/ranges and provides and easy applicable way to think about the game. Not sure what you are going off about...
Bet small on dynamic boards? This is the opposite of JL says...