Timestamps: yas 109 vs tv speakers 1:19 standard surround vs virtual x 14:44 bass test: subwoofer and bass extension 19:50 bass test 2: 22:34 clear voice test 26:00 on axis vs off axis: 28:52
Hi Alan, Just wanted to let you know you are a great reviewer and I do hope more and more people find your channel and tune into your reviews. Great job- Cheers!
I own the yas 108 and it’s amazing for what it delivers , rain and overhead flyby scenes are rendered reasonably well for height effects the sound is clear sharp the app is poor but the the sound bar doesn’t have to many functions, a subwoofer will enrich the experience and the Bluetooth pairing with a phone is easy and the music playback is good . For the price fantastic
I Agree with past comments the Alan Ross has the best review on the Yamaha sound bar, YAS 109. Alan’s review is fair and the specs an test results sets this video apart from all the others. I appreciate the detail
@@endzik how are you connected to the soundbar? earc would mean you want output as bitstream but i need to know your chain. are you using a bluray player or other external device for video or just streaming via tv?
This is the type of detailed review along with multiple audio samples that any reviewer should make. Really good work sir and hope you continue doing this. I bought the YAS 109 after going through your detailed review. Would probably buy an external sub as well later. Any recommendations? Also, did you try using the YAS 109 with an external sub?
not yet, tried the 107. careful matchign is required since the yas does not cut its own base with sub plugged in. 8/10 inch is best match. make sure you get auto shut off, gain and crossover control on sub.
I am between this and the 209. Is the bass sufficient on the 109? The only reason I am considering and all-in-one is because I’ve had connectivity issues with the subwoofer cutting in and out (probably due to wifi interference)
Nice review. I have this sound bar for a few months and I like it. The bass does suck however when paired with a good sub, the sound can be as immersing as a 2 channel system can be. I use a definitive technology super cube 2000 with this bar. Kudos to Yamaha for the good sub Preout . No output strength is listed in the manual but the preout is strong enough to make the subwoofer bass nice and full. I am able to set the output relatively low on my sub and still get great bass. For those who buy this soundbar, get a small “real” sub with it and you will be happy
Yes!! finally someone that has done what I am curious about. I am thinking of getting the YAS 109 and connect my subwoofer to the soundbar, funny enough I also have a Definitive Tech sub. My question for you is, does the soundbar sound good with the voice and midrage when connected to a sub? or do the voices sound muddy or too deep due to the soundbar already having woofers set as "subwoofers". In other words, the 3" subwoofer speakers on the YAS 109 will produce sounds in the midrange area when connected
Gabriel Rodriguez I was worried at first on how the voices would sound. The voices are not too deep as long as you do not engage the bass boost function in the Yamaha,. My super cube does NOT have an external crossover and that is what worried me initially. But my fears were unfounded. A major benefit of the strong preout is the I can set the subwoofer gain high enough to totally block out the Yamaha bass(and distortion) while at the same time the gain is low enough to not over emphasize the lower octaves of voices...
Ok after this review I am not understanding much regarding what should I have on or off. Please give some direction in what should we use with what. Like for example For movies - Bass on 4 , surround on, bass ext on...
Hi Alan, excellent review, love it. I am considering between the YAS109 and the Anker Soundcore Infini Pro, my TV has Dolby Atmos support and the two of them are in a similar price range. Which one would you recommend?
Hello you 😄 long time no see. Hope you're well during this time. I've been on the hunt for my first soundbar for about a month now. My budget is in or around £300. I've considered the Yas 107, Yas 109 and the Samsung MS650. I have no room in my lounge for a subwoofer so an all in one is a must. If I opted for one of the Yas models, which would be best when it's placed flat on the TV stand? Cheers.
ha! you been sleeping? on? i would get the ms650 over the yas models if you do not intend adding a subwoofer. i see it on sale for the same price as the yas but the ms750 is another step up again.
@@alanrossreviews been Google searching all day. can only see the Samsung ms650 for sale via Very but only in the grey colour. The ms750 I can't see anywhere except used eBay. I can however see both Yas models for sale new.
@@alanrossreviewsthanks for that. the ms750 is out of my price range but the ms650 is £269.99 on Amazon which is a huge bargain considering its original retail price of £550. No brainer. Have you listened to or reviewed the ms650?
Very clever bloke the most in depth review I’ve probably ever seen. I can’t connect with Bluetooth on mine I wonder if it’s not supported anymore which would be a surprise any ideas?
great video, I have a question. I was planning on getting the yas 209 but I see that the Yas 109 has bigger speakers plus 2 extra 3" woofers for the bass. do you know if I connect a subwoofer I already own with the yas 109, if the 3" speaker on the 109 will automatically be redirected to play the midrange frequencies, or will the soundbar still play the low frequencies through the 3" speakers? if so, would that affect the sound quality for dialogue in movies and shows?
on the 107 it worked that way, the subwoofers stayed the same output so you had to use the low pass filter on the subwoofer to keep them balanced. not sure if its the same on the 109 but i would imagine so. haven't tried with a sub yet.
Hey man I really like your reviews. I am only really interested in clear and loud dialogue so that music and other sound doesn't make it hard to hear what they're saying. Clear voice seemed pretty good on these yas budget models, but what do you think about Sonos beam?
Hello Alan, i found the Yas-109 at € 169, instead the Yas-107 at € 159, which one do I buy? I'm interested in the prefect audio of film dialogues. Thank you
@@gravin1979 The YAS-109 has an audio option called "clear voice", it isolates and heightens the character's voices in films, and sports commentators' voices. It's a very effective and crisp feature.
Does wifi router cause subwoofer bluetooth interference? My LG is unusable due to sub cutting in and out. Might opt for this instead of the 209 due to fears of the same happening
This is why I got the SR-B20A, was worried the 24/7 wifi pull will mess with my wifi television/console for streaming. I could care less about Alexa, I just want better sound.
Hey Alan, great review and test! So i was wondering you mentioned about subwoofer mismatch . But I could not understood how to secure a good installation. Do you know which option is better comparing yas 109 + subwoofer tss800 infinity or if it’s better to go Yas 209? Thank you, regards!
after market sub is always best as long as you make sure it has adjustable volume.gain and crossover. 209 would be an easier package as its already is matched.
What yamaha subwoofer works best with the 109. I've got a YSP-2700 with a faulty subwoofer so I'm looking for a quick replacement. Downgrade but affordable with additional sub.
Forgive me for being picky, Alan, but in your audio comparison between the TV sound and the sound emanating from the soundbar, yes, the presence and bass from the soundbar was excellent but I couldn't hear the dialogue. Since that is what I would buy a sounbar for, can I ask is it really that bad?🐨
Good review bought the yas107 after seeing your other review and havent got it yet but from that review im super excited as ive only ever really experienced tv speakers
i prefer the 107 over the 109. the 107 has slightly better bass while the 109 has a more shrill sound which some may say is clearer, to me its harsh. also 107 is more user friendly, im looking to get rid of the 109 for another 107 😋
Hey There. can u confirm if the Yamaha YAS 209 supports Multi room music set up with other Alexa devices like the Echo Dot? i cant seem to be able to do that with mine. Thanks
I brought the samsung hwms650. Excellent sound bar but I feel surround sound mode removes the sound of the speech. Put it into smart mode and the speech is a lot more louder
hum, i like the solo 5 but yas 109 has a bit more going for it but i actually prefer the 107 if you dont need alexa or bluetooth 5. both do a good job at a tv upgrade but they are still low end soundbars. adding a sub to the 109 though means you have a clear upgrade path.
Awesome detailed review thanks. But i researched around a bit and it seems that there is more difference than just tr subwoofer between the 109 and 209. The 109 has 60W power output excluding the inbuilt subs(60W). The 209 has 100W output on the bar excluding the sub(100W). Also arrangement of the drivers seems different. Would be awesome if you could test the difference between these two!?
@@alanrossreviews Just saying that it seems that way....or one gets that impression when comparing 109 and 209 online. There are plenty of reviews everywhere on the net, TH-cam, but no reviews i found have touched on this point.
When you refer to virtual x vs standard surround (is standard surround the 3D surround button), virtual x is on the fly no options/buttons pressed? Also is wall/vertical or horizontal (on cabinet) a better sound?
Dolby and DTS have 5.1 signals but this sound bat is 2.1 channel, how come it can play 5.1 content without compromising quality ? Playing 5.1 content on 2.1 channel causes blast at some times and sometimes very quite. Does this sound bar also has that issue ?
Hi Alan, I am really confused to buy a soundbar. After I saw your review about YAS - 109, I decided to buy the YAS - 109 soundbar and a Yamaha Subwoofer (SW-NS050).
@@alanrossreviews Thank you very much for your quick reply, I am from Kerala India, This is my first Soundbar and Sub woofer. I am not an expert to review the audio devices. I think it's suitable for my small room.
yes my only concern is you may have too much bass double up as the soundbar does not cut its own bass when you add the subwoofer. thus the need for the sub to have its own crossover controls as well as the volume/gain control.
Hey, I am planning to buy soundbar for my PC which has 4K monitor (BenQ EW3270U) as well. My motherboard has 5+ Optical S/PDIF port for audio (Realtek ALC1200 Codec). This soundbar will be in my bedroom and I don't want 5.1 speaker setup. So I have rounded off few soundbars in a price range I can invest, can you suggest which one should I pick or if you have any other in this range that I should consider, that would be really helpful. P.S. I am not keen on thumping bass from woofer, just looking for crystal clear audio, channel separation, awesome clarity and good mix of high, mid and lows. Anything else apart from this will be added bonus. Sony HT-X8500 2.1 - Dolby Atmos YAMAHA YAS-109 2.1 - Dobly Digital/ DTS Virtual X Polk Audio Signa S2 2.1 - Dolby Digital (with wireless Subwoofer) Denon DHT-S316 2.1 - Think this is expensive than others Thanks
I've ben looking for a soundbar with subwoofer out but they are a rare breed. I came across the YAS 109 , 108 and 107. I already own a good surround sound system with a YAMAHA NS SW300 but my SONY STR DN-1020 burns 400 watts electricity. Even when its not turned up loud. Its great to have for watching one or two movies on a saturday night. But I noticed my current electric bill €45 higher over the last two months because I have been using the amp most days. So to try to save electricity I'm looking at the YAMAHA Soundbar while watching TV and use the amp for movies. Connect the SUB to the soundbar.
Thank you very nice video I would like to have your opinion, I would like to buy a sound bar and I hesitate between: Yamaha yas 207 Sonos beam Sony HT-X8500 Thank you for your help
1600 have an immersive sound .would like to upgrade it ...so if yas 209 less immersive and sound just ok ....i will try to find another soundbar ....ht-rt3 maybe ?
Why do these companies keep saying their sound ball will play dolby and dts and give all sorts of expensive effects when in fact its not even the real thing.. its ridiculous..
Nice review. I have this sound bar for a few months and I like it. The bass does suck however when paired with a good sub, the sound can be as immersing as a 2 channel system can be. I use a definitive technology super cube 2000 with this bar. Kudos to Yamaha for the good sub Preout . No output strength is listed in the manual but the preout is strong enough to make the subwoofer bass nice and full. I am able to set the output relatively low on my sub and still get great bass. For those who buy this soundbar, get a small “real” sub with it and you will be happy
@@hugobas9694 you would need a conve tuonal wired sub. I'd recommend my supercube 2000. It's super super small but has strong Amp and great output. Retail is around $600 and the sub can be found on sale for $300-400
Nice review. I have this sound bar for a few months and I like it. The bass does suck however when paired with a good sub, the sound can be as immersing as a 2 channel system can be. I use a definitive technology super cube 2000 with this bar. Kudos to Yamaha for the good sub Preout . No output strength is listed in the manual but the preout is strong enough to make the subwoofer bass nice and full. I am able to set the output relatively low on my sub and still get great bass. For those who buy this soundbar, get a small “real” sub with it and you will be happy
Yes!! finally someone that has done what I am curious about. I am thinking of getting the YAS 109 and connect my subwoofer to the soundbar, funny enough I also have a Definitive Tech sub. My question for you is, does the soundbar sound good with the voice and midrage when connected to a sub? or do the voices sound muddy or too deep due to the soundbar already having woofers set as "subwoofers". In other words, the 3" subwoofer speakers on the YAS 109 will produce sounds in the midrange area when connected to a sub, or will it still produce the deep bass frequency?
Alan Ross Reviews that was the scariest bit for me. The super cube 2000 is the bottom of the model line and consequently it has no external crossover! It depends on the av receiver that it is intended to be paired with. Thankfully whatever Yamaha has done has allowed very little upper bass to distort voices. I got lucky with this setup lol
@@gavilan355 I have an update. I still have the Yamaha bar, and I’ve found a easy way to further improve the bass response. I always remained irritated wit the lack of crossover control and just recently I found a solution. I found an in line crossover called the “FMOD ACTIVE CROSSOVER” part #900061. It is a simple low pass crossover that filters out frequencies above 70 db. Slope is 12 db per octave. This under $30 mod really allowed my super cube to focus only on low bass and it really came alive after I plugged it in.... Also I am waiting on the delivery of a pair of Klipsch powered monitors. I’m dumping the Yamaha sound bar. The klipsch speakers have optical, rca, Bluetooth, and phono inputs. I think I’ll miss hdmi arc but it’s no deal breaker
Timestamps:
yas 109 vs tv speakers 1:19
standard surround vs virtual x 14:44
bass test: subwoofer and bass extension 19:50
bass test 2: 22:34
clear voice test 26:00
on axis vs off axis: 28:52
Wanted a UK reviewer like you for the longest while, thumbs up subbed.
The wait is over 😝
This is without a shadow of a doubt the the most detailed review I have ever seen
😜😜👍
You are working very hard.really a very good review.You deserve millions of subscribers.
Thanks a ton
One of Best reviews I have seen on this item.....thank you so much!!
You're welcome 😊
Hi Alan,
Just wanted to let you know you are a great reviewer and I do hope more and more people find your channel and tune into your reviews. Great job- Cheers!
Thank you 😛 i also hope the channel can grow so i can fund more gear 😍👍
This review deserves an award
you are correct 😝
I own the yas 108 and it’s amazing for what it delivers , rain and overhead flyby scenes are rendered reasonably well for height effects the sound is clear sharp the app is poor but the the sound bar doesn’t have to many functions, a subwoofer will enrich the experience and the Bluetooth pairing with a phone is easy and the music playback is good . For the price fantastic
como se compara con vitual x de vizio sb3621 h8?
Better soundbar than all those Bose... Real quality
I Agree with past comments the Alan Ross has the best review on the Yamaha sound bar, YAS 109. Alan’s review is fair and the specs an test results sets this video apart from all the others. I appreciate the detail
thank you for that 👍😛
Best review the most detail I have seen . did you review the Yamaha SR C20A ?
No im not really a soundbar guy
In tv settings did you recommend leave just Pcm or Dts 2:5? Thank you 👍
do you have the option to bitstream?
@@alanrossreviews yes, I set hdmi audio INPUT to Bitstream (default is PCM) and digital audio Output format to Dts neo (default is PCM). It's okay?
I have the same question 🤔
@@alanrossreviewsI have the same question 😕
@@endzik how are you connected to the soundbar? earc would mean you want output as bitstream but i need to know your chain. are you using a bluray player or other external device for video or just streaming via tv?
This is the type of detailed review along with multiple audio samples that any reviewer should make. Really good work sir and hope you continue doing this. I bought the YAS 109 after going through your detailed review.
Would probably buy an external sub as well later. Any recommendations? Also, did you try using the YAS 109 with an external sub?
not yet, tried the 107. careful matchign is required since the yas does not cut its own base with sub plugged in. 8/10 inch is best match. make sure you get auto shut off, gain and crossover control on sub.
@@alanrossreviews Thank you for the detailed advice Alan :)
I am between this and the 209. Is the bass sufficient on the 109? The only reason I am considering and all-in-one is because I’ve had connectivity issues with the subwoofer cutting in and out (probably due to wifi interference)
@@Jiggy609 bass is ok. But if you are a bass lover then go for 209. Overall 109 is a great product.
Could you please review yamaha 209. please!
And what now the best settings for the best sound ?, thanks for the Video 👍
Nice review. I have this sound bar for a few months and I like it. The bass does suck however when paired with a good sub, the sound can be as immersing as a 2 channel system can be. I use a definitive technology super cube 2000 with this bar. Kudos to Yamaha for the good sub Preout . No output strength is listed in the manual but the preout is strong enough to make the subwoofer bass nice and full. I am able to set the output relatively low on my sub and still get great bass. For those who buy this soundbar, get a small “real” sub with it and you will be happy
Yes!! finally someone that has done what I am curious about. I am thinking of getting the YAS 109 and connect my subwoofer to the soundbar, funny enough I also have a Definitive Tech sub. My question for you is, does the soundbar sound good with the voice and midrage when connected to a sub? or do the voices sound muddy or too deep due to the soundbar already having woofers set as "subwoofers". In other words, the 3" subwoofer speakers on the YAS 109 will produce sounds in the midrange area when connected
Gabriel Rodriguez I was worried at first on how the voices would sound. The voices are not too deep as long as you do not engage the bass boost function in the Yamaha,. My super cube does NOT have an external crossover and that is what worried me initially. But my fears were unfounded. A major benefit of the strong preout is the I can set the subwoofer gain high enough to totally block out the Yamaha bass(and distortion) while at the same time the gain is low enough to not over emphasize the lower octaves of voices...
Amazing review this man is a gem. Sidenote love the hair 80s rock band vibe. Alan were you a singer or musician by any chance haha
just a wannabe 😊
Ok after this review I am not understanding much regarding what should I have on or off. Please give some direction in what should we use with what. Like for example For movies - Bass on 4 , surround on, bass ext on...
Superb review 👏👏👏Allen Rose
Thanking you, 😝
It's very helpful and your analysis to this soundbar is great.👍👍😊
😊 thanks!
excelent review!! 1 question, works with DTS-HD MASTER AUDIO sound?? thanks!!
nope! 🤒
Hi Alan, excellent review, love it. I am considering between the YAS109 and the Anker Soundcore Infini Pro, my TV has Dolby Atmos support and the two of them are in a similar price range. Which one would you recommend?
hola , cual compraste y como te resulto? estoy como tu y la vizio m21 h8,thanks
Does this soundbar sound better than Echo Studio?
Hi Alan, great review, is there a soundbar up to the price of the Yas 109 that you prefer and would rather use yourself?
im out of touch with current soundbars, when the ms650 got a price cut i went with that, it kills the yas 109 if you dont add a subwoofer to the yas.
Hello you 😄 long time no see. Hope you're well during this time.
I've been on the hunt for my first soundbar for about a month now. My budget is in or around £300. I've considered the Yas 107, Yas 109 and the Samsung MS650. I have no room in my lounge for a subwoofer so an all in one is a must.
If I opted for one of the Yas models, which would be best when it's placed flat on the TV stand? Cheers.
ha! you been sleeping? on? i would get the ms650 over the yas models if you do not intend adding a subwoofer. i see it on sale for the same price as the yas but the ms750 is another step up again.
@@alanrossreviews been Google searching all day. can only see the Samsung ms650 for sale via Very but only in the grey colour. The ms750 I can't see anywhere except used eBay. I can however see both Yas models for sale new.
@@grahamjackmacpherson6501 i can see both on amazon. well the ms650 listed as ms651.
@@alanrossreviewsthanks for that. the ms750 is out of my price range but the ms650 is £269.99 on Amazon which is a huge bargain considering its original retail price of £550. No brainer. Have you listened to or reviewed the ms650?
@@alanrossreviews silentnight Hatfield miracoil mattress with memory foam from argos. That's what I'm sleeping on. I went back to basics 😄
Magnat SBW 280 vs Yamaha YAS- 209
Please suggest .. which one good in audio quality
Very clever bloke the most in depth review I’ve probably ever seen. I can’t connect with Bluetooth on mine I wonder if it’s not supported anymore which would be a surprise any ideas?
no longer have mine sorry but they cant withdraw Bluetooth support, its pretty fundamental to the speaker
great video, I have a question. I was planning on getting the yas 209 but I see that the Yas 109 has bigger speakers plus 2 extra 3" woofers for the bass. do you know if I connect a subwoofer I already own with the yas 109, if the 3" speaker on the 109 will automatically be redirected to play the midrange frequencies, or will the soundbar still play the low frequencies through the 3" speakers? if so, would that affect the sound quality for dialogue in movies and shows?
on the 107 it worked that way, the subwoofers stayed the same output so you had to use the low pass filter on the subwoofer to keep them balanced. not sure if its the same on the 109 but i would imagine so. haven't tried with a sub yet.
@@alanrossreviews thank you for your response.
Hey man I really like your reviews. I am only really interested in clear and loud dialogue so that music and other sound doesn't make it hard to hear what they're saying. Clear voice seemed pretty good on these yas budget models, but what do you think about Sonos beam?
not tried the sonos, sorry.
Hello Alan, i found the Yas-109 at € 169, instead the Yas-107 at € 159, which one do I buy? I'm interested in the prefect audio of film dialogues. Thank you
i would say 107 if you will have drivers facing towards you and the 109 if you will have them firing up.
@@alanrossreviews why do you like yas 107 more ??? If you tell me 107 is better, I'll buy it
@@gravin1979 The YAS-109 has an audio option called "clear voice", it isolates and heightens the character's voices in films, and sports commentators' voices. It's a very effective and crisp feature.
Thanks for this great review. I am deciding between this one and the Sony HTX 8500. Which one do you recommend?
im a bit out of touch with sondbars
Question! Yas-107, Yas-109 or the newer YAMAHA SR-B20A? An Svs sub will be doin the heavy lifting! What would be your choice?
Does wifi router cause subwoofer bluetooth interference? My LG is unusable due to sub cutting in and out. Might opt for this instead of the 209 due to fears of the same happening
yes it can do.
This is why I got the SR-B20A, was worried the 24/7 wifi pull will mess with my wifi television/console for streaming. I could care less about Alexa, I just want better sound.
Hey Alan, great review and test! So i was wondering you mentioned about subwoofer mismatch . But I could not understood how to secure a good installation. Do you know which option is better comparing yas 109 + subwoofer tss800 infinity or if it’s better to go Yas 209? Thank you, regards!
after market sub is always best as long as you make sure it has adjustable volume.gain and crossover. 209 would be an easier package as its already is matched.
Sir how is YAS 209 compared with JBL 2.1 DB?
What yamaha subwoofer works best with the 109. I've got a YSP-2700 with a faulty subwoofer so I'm looking for a quick replacement. Downgrade but affordable with additional sub.
Forgive me for being picky, Alan, but in your audio comparison between the TV sound and the sound emanating from the soundbar, yes, the presence and bass from the soundbar was excellent but I couldn't hear the dialogue. Since that is what I would buy a sounbar for, can I ask is it really that bad?🐨
you need to go to clear audio mode for that
Great review, I'm so tempted to buy this. Can you please tell me if all settings are remembered after power off, volume, Base volume etc?
Excellent review
Thank you 😛
Good review bought the yas107 after seeing your other review and havent got it yet but from that review im super excited as ive only ever really experienced tv speakers
i prefer the 107 over the 109. the 107 has slightly better bass while the 109 has a more shrill sound which some may say is clearer, to me its harsh. also 107 is more user friendly, im looking to get rid of the 109 for another 107 😋
@@alanrossreviews I'll buy it from you? Are you selling?
Hey There. can u confirm if the Yamaha YAS 209 supports Multi room music set up with other Alexa devices like the Echo Dot? i cant seem to be able to do that with mine. Thanks
I have a Bose 500 Bass module speaker. Can I connect my Bose Bass speaker to the Yamaha Yas109? Will it work together and enhance the sound quality
Is direct plug in via hdmi
Can we pair the sound bar with Alexa device and play them simultaneously?
I brought the samsung hwms650. Excellent sound bar but I feel surround sound mode removes the sound of the speech. Put it into smart mode and the speech is a lot more louder
it sure makes more sense at the current price than this yas. i heard though the ms750 though which is a whole nother level step up, it might tempt me.
Hey Alan, is it worth it to pay extra on the Yas 209 for the sub-woofer? or the 109 will do the job
109 is probably a better option IFFFF you add a third party subwoofer.
@@alanrossreviews which subwoofer would you recommend?
Hey Alan, superb job. But am bit confused with bose solo 5 and 109. Which one you prefer??
hum, i like the solo 5 but yas 109 has a bit more going for it but i actually prefer the 107 if you dont need alexa or bluetooth 5. both do a good job at a tv upgrade but they are still low end soundbars. adding a sub to the 109 though means you have a clear upgrade path.
@@alanrossreviews thank you 😊
Amazing clarification... Keep it up bro....
Thank you, I will 😊
Awesome detailed review thanks. But i researched around a bit and it seems that there is more difference than just tr subwoofer between the 109 and 209. The 109 has 60W power output excluding the inbuilt subs(60W). The 209 has 100W output on the bar excluding the sub(100W). Also arrangement of the drivers seems different.
Would be awesome if you could test the difference between these two!?
And forgot to mention that 207,209 dont have bass reflex ports so those look sleeker according to me.
did i say that was the only difference or the main difference? im concentrating on bluetooth speakers for now :(
@@alanrossreviews
Just saying that it seems that way....or one gets that impression when comparing 109 and 209 online. There are plenty of reviews everywhere on the net, TH-cam, but no reviews i found have touched on this point.
Cheers great thorough review 👍
thank you 👍
When you refer to virtual x vs standard surround (is standard surround the 3D surround button), virtual x is on the fly no options/buttons pressed? Also is wall/vertical or horizontal (on cabinet) a better sound?
Ignore last partof question
virtual x is real time processing yes.
Could you suggest a suitable woofer compatible with the YAS 109 soundbar? Thank you.
8-12 inch, with auto power off, adjustable low pass filter and gain control.
Can be plugged to 220v outlet? Ty
Hi alan, you can see some surround effect with netflix?
Yep, netflix has 5.1 option
@@alanrossreviews hi alan,compared to infini pro anker or vizio m21 h8 which will be better in surround effects? thanks
Yas-306 review ??
Finally. review with actual audio. Thank god
i hear yer 👍😀
Dolby and DTS have 5.1 signals but this sound bat is 2.1 channel, how come it can play 5.1 content without compromising quality ? Playing 5.1 content on 2.1 channel causes blast at some times and sometimes very quite. Does this sound bar also has that issue ?
It down samples the 5.1 and plays it over 2.1. Sounds like you want a 3.1 minimum soundbar so you get dedicated centre channel.
Hi Alan, I am really confused to buy a soundbar. After I saw your review about YAS - 109, I decided to buy the YAS - 109 soundbar and a Yamaha Subwoofer (SW-NS050).
i dont think that sub has a low pass filter? you need something with crossover or low pass filter to fine tune the bass.
@@alanrossreviews Thank you very much for your quick reply, I am from Kerala India, This is my first Soundbar and Sub woofer. I am not an expert to review the audio devices. I think it's suitable for my small room.
yes my only concern is you may have too much bass double up as the soundbar does not cut its own bass when you add the subwoofer. thus the need for the sub to have its own crossover controls as well as the volume/gain control.
@@alanrossreviews Oh I got the point. Could you please mention a Subwoofer model with its own crossover controls and volume/gain control ?
@@alanrossreviews Could you please advice ?
I ❤️ Yamaha Saundbar
Hi , I like to have parties in My living room , does this bar work for that ? To use it in My parties? Or what bar do You recommend me with good bass?
I recommend a speaker rather than soundbar.
@@alanrossreviews what speaker do You recommend me ? Thanks for tour advice
a pair of soundcore booms will surprise you! or maybe look at the jbl partybox lineup! the 110 being good value
Hi master, in your opinion the Yas 109 is better, or the Denon DHT-S216. Thanks, you are my myth
not heard the denon, sorry.
The Denon DHT-S216 is better than yas-109 per tested report in Hong Kong
@@smtam6911 Is there any source for that review? Thanks in advance! I'm hesitating between YAS-107 and DHT-S216 :)
(forgot to mention: currently using my beloved YAS-103)
Hey, I am planning to buy soundbar for my PC which has 4K monitor (BenQ EW3270U) as well. My motherboard has 5+ Optical S/PDIF port for audio (Realtek ALC1200 Codec). This soundbar will be in my bedroom and I don't want 5.1 speaker setup. So I have rounded off few soundbars in a price range I can invest, can you suggest which one should I pick or if you have any other in this range that I should consider, that would be really helpful.
P.S. I am not keen on thumping bass from woofer, just looking for crystal clear audio, channel separation, awesome clarity and good mix of high, mid and lows. Anything else apart from this will be added bonus.
Sony HT-X8500 2.1 - Dolby Atmos
YAMAHA YAS-109 2.1 - Dobly Digital/ DTS Virtual X
Polk Audio Signa S2 2.1 - Dolby Digital (with wireless Subwoofer)
Denon DHT-S316 2.1 - Think this is expensive than others
Thanks
if you can do without atmos the samsung ms650 can be had for little money , less than the yas 109 and is far better.
@@alanrossreviews Awesome, thanks for the suggestion :-)
I've ben looking for a soundbar with subwoofer out but they are a rare breed. I came across the YAS 109 , 108 and 107. I already own a good surround sound system with a YAMAHA NS SW300 but my SONY STR DN-1020 burns 400 watts electricity. Even when its not turned up loud. Its great to have for watching one or two movies on a saturday night. But I noticed my current electric bill €45 higher over the last two months because I have been using the amp most days. So to try to save electricity I'm looking at the YAMAHA Soundbar while watching TV and use the amp for movies. Connect the SUB to the soundbar.
sounds like a plan... 😋😜
Thank you very nice video I would like to have your opinion, I would like to buy a sound bar and I hesitate between:
Yamaha yas 207
Sonos beam
Sony HT-X8500
Thank you for your help
im outta the loop since i got the yas so would not like to comment, sorry.
@@alanrossreviews sorry
yas-109, you say to connect it Pcm or Bitstream??
they are two different things. pcm requires no decoding on the recieving device, bitstreaming means the end device does the decoding.
two sondcore motion + is better than one jbl xtreme?
for the most part, bit the motion plus will never get as deep in the bass as the extreme.
@@alanrossreviews so it's not worth just exchanging my jbl Xtreme for 2 soundcore +?
@@ofazendeiro8231 sure if you value detail and clarity over deep bass
This is REALLY helpful.. thank you
Glad it was helpful!
if i play a atmos movie file from a usb, will any sound came out of it?
nope!
@@alanrossreviews not even a stereo sound?
Good review, then waiting for something better from yamaha in 2022 !
Fingers crossed!
Is it have nicest sound other the ysp 1600 ?
no its not ground breaking, its just ok.
@@alanrossreviews ok so ysp 1600 better for movie
1600 have an immersive sound .would like to upgrade it ...so if yas 209 less immersive and sound just ok ....i will try to find another soundbar ....ht-rt3 maybe ?
That redddd
pull out my eyes, goddamn
happily 😜😜
Is it good for ps4 gaming
no idea, sorry.
Why do these companies keep saying their sound ball will play dolby and dts and give all sorts of expensive effects when in fact its not even the real thing.. its ridiculous..
They mean it will decode those tracks
@@alanrossreviews sure ...but thats not gonna give you the same effect as a 5.1 physical speakers set in the right configuration. Will it now?
It is the real thing but its a different variant for soundbars vs a full receiver setup
Thats why they add “virtual”
Can the sound bar connect through Bluetooth to my wireless headphones
er that makes no sense, the soundbar is not the source, you need to connect the source, what are you playing via?
*Buy Online:
Yas 109 soundbar : geni.us/yas109
R u an audiophile??😊😊
no. 😁
Hi
Yo! 👌
Y nt hit straight to the point ..u talk too much
bit like your pointless comment 👍😍
Nice review. I have this sound bar for a few months and I like it. The bass does suck however when paired with a good sub, the sound can be as immersing as a 2 channel system can be. I use a definitive technology super cube 2000 with this bar. Kudos to Yamaha for the good sub Preout . No output strength is listed in the manual but the preout is strong enough to make the subwoofer bass nice and full. I am able to set the output relatively low on my sub and still get great bass. For those who buy this soundbar, get a small “real” sub with it and you will be happy
what kind of sub do you have paired with this soundbar?
What subwoofer would you recommend? Can it be a wireless one? Or it has to be connected ? Thanks
@@hugobas9694 you would need a conve tuonal wired sub. I'd recommend my supercube 2000. It's super super small but has strong Amp and great output. Retail is around $600 and the sub can be found on sale for $300-400
Nice review. I have this sound bar for a few months and I like it. The bass does suck however when paired with a good sub, the sound can be as immersing as a 2 channel system can be. I use a definitive technology super cube 2000 with this bar. Kudos to Yamaha for the good sub Preout . No output strength is listed in the manual but the preout is strong enough to make the subwoofer bass nice and full. I am able to set the output relatively low on my sub and still get great bass. For those who buy this soundbar, get a small “real” sub with it and you will be happy
what have you set the crossover at?
Yes!! finally someone that has done what I am curious about. I am thinking of getting the YAS 109 and connect my subwoofer to the soundbar, funny enough I also have a Definitive Tech sub. My question for you is, does the soundbar sound good with the voice and midrage when connected to a sub? or do the voices sound muddy or too deep due to the soundbar already having woofers set as "subwoofers". In other words, the 3" subwoofer speakers on the YAS 109 will produce sounds in the midrange area when connected to a sub, or will it still produce the deep bass frequency?
Alan Ross Reviews that was the scariest bit for me. The super cube 2000 is the bottom of the model line and consequently it has no external crossover! It depends on the av receiver that it is intended to be paired with. Thankfully whatever Yamaha has done has allowed very little upper bass to distort voices. I got lucky with this setup lol
@@gavilan355 I have an update. I still have the Yamaha bar, and I’ve found a easy way to further improve the bass response. I always remained irritated wit the lack of crossover control and just recently I found a solution. I found an in line crossover called the “FMOD ACTIVE CROSSOVER” part #900061. It is a simple low pass crossover that filters out frequencies above 70 db. Slope is 12 db per octave. This under $30 mod really allowed my super cube to focus only on low bass and it really came alive after I plugged it in....
Also I am waiting on the delivery of a pair of Klipsch powered monitors. I’m dumping the Yamaha sound bar. The klipsch speakers have optical, rca, Bluetooth, and phono inputs. I think I’ll miss hdmi arc but it’s no deal breaker