I love that you used 90% fatality rate because, regardless of if you knew it or not, its actually estimated that around 10% of people were immune to the disease. Now, almost every disease has people immune to it anyway but the 10% is because lots of small villages of germany were not warned about the disease at all and all lived in the same large building. They also didn't know how to counter it which means that they still took care of the diseased themselves and buried the bodies instead of burning them. So, everyone in those villages probably got infected but around 10% survived everytime without ever showing any symptoms. So if it infected absolutely everyone in Europe, it would indeed be around 10% that would survive.
@Titanium Mapping Yeah, the reason Poland did so well was because of hygene. For example - the Polish king and his court took regular baths, and the kings of France bathed often under 10 times in their whole lives. You can see how that would lead to resistance to plagues for Poles.
@@jek_si2251 Nope. Poland and northern Europe was more rural than than its southern counterpart so the disease wasn't transmitted easily there. This is also why Mid East was less affected by the Black Death than in the West, because many part of it were isolated by arid, unpopulated desert. But.. the Black Death did wreck more concentrated place like Nile Delta in Egypt and between Euphrates and Tigris in Iraq.
@@jek_si2251 dude, the only way to survive the plague is to be bloodtype O. It gives you a natural immunity. This is why most of Europe is bloodtype O.
Islam you mean, Islam would have dominated the world if Europeans didn't exist, I cannot see any civilization living up to the might of Islam at the time of the medieval ages. Islam was only stopped because of Europe. If not for Europeans, America would all be Islamic
their should be a video game or a tv series about this alternate universe, seeing a ruined medieval europe slowly being invaded by the other powers would be pretty interesting
Poland was affected by the black death, just not as much as the rest of Europe. This is due to Casimir the Great quarantining the borders and Poland's less dense population size.
Read "The years of rice and salt". It's a alternate history novel where 90% of europe is wiped out and it's consequences and ripple effects. Really good book.
Cody namedropped the book- the audiobook version, to be precise-in 8:57... And funnily enough, the book is the inspiration for this video lol Tbf, he namedropped it in an ad read for Audible so yeah.
It is rather interesting how Poland did not capitalize on/exploit (no significant change in borders) the weakened neighbors right after the plague ebbed out. BTW, the Polish lands where not affected because the king issued strict quarantine orders on the borders that where enforced. Sure, commerce took a plunge dive but the people at least did not die in agony.
Jaybae My love Really? They are already far behind western european societies in every regard. Conservatism, nationalism and isiolationism aren't going to help catching up.
@@jezuz6668 You do understand how ridiculous your term "regres[s]ive preogressivism" sounds to people with a brain, right? First of all you could try to explain to me what "progressivism" is supposed to mean. But I guess what you wanted to ask me is how my life in a free society without racial, religous and sexual discrimination and without the constant paranoia of minorities works out. I have to say it's working out great. It's really nice to have left the dark ages behind and to live by the ideals of the enlightment, science and logic rather than by blind, undeducated and ignorant fears.
@@trollemall7016 Ok, first of all, this isn't a dichotomy between literal feudalism and modern technocratic social liberalism. (I hope you consider this to be non-braindead) A conservative nation-state can without internal philosophical contradictions still use science, "logic" and most descriptive parts of the enlightenment, although I must say that the "enlightenment" is a hard thing to define. Conservatism, in this case, refers to modern European style conservatism Second of all, "progressivism" depending on what "type" you are talking about, isn't very "pro enlightenment" if we look at it from a value perspective. The enlightenment in many ways laid the foundation for institutions like the British and French empire and is in general pretty imperialistic. Also, the scientific enlightenment created moralistic and civilisational meta-narratives and was in general very reductionist, this being the opposite of what post-modernism proposes. (although it is in line with marxism) Lastly, I think you're making a logical mistake (if I have interpreted you correctly), as you seem to use the authority of "logic" and "science" to strengthen your value position. This is a fallacy as neither science or logic leads to anything, it is purely descriptive and therefore using it in this way doesn't really make sense. I would recommend you this video as a general explainer of the fallacy I believe you have committed th-cam.com/video/KX62hnzucDE/w-d-xo.html I hope this is useful :)
Interesting counter point: The world may very well have achieved the same technological and intellectual complexity that we have today in this timeline, but it would not have originated in Europe, but in the Americas. Few civilizations were more complex, diverse, grand in scale, and understanding of astronomy, science, and mathematics than the Mayan empire. Of which we now know, at its peak, was essentially the population center of the earth. During its classic period (A.D. 250-900) its reach covered an area about twice the size of medieval England whilst being far more densely populated. Though the Maya eventually died out, history has proven the geography and resources of the area is capable of sustaining a massive civilization, and even after the Maya empire fell, the western world was no stranger to complex societies among its territories. By the time the European colonization had started and Cortes went off on his mission, there were population centers still present in the area like Tenochtitlan, Texcoco, and Tlacopan, all three of which were complex, partnering city states with their own laws, economies, politics, soldiers, and infrastructure. This wasn't the only coalition of its kind either, there were other areas of the Americas that had equally complex people and settlements, such as the Iroquois confederacy which was comprised of five smaller nations (later six nations in 1722), that was governed by a Grand Council, an assembly of fifty chiefs, each representing one of the clans of one of the nations, all of which adhered to a constitution they called the "Great Law of Peace" of which the founding fathers of the United States took HEAVY inspiration from when drafting their own constitution. Evidence has shown the Americas were an equally diverse and complex set of societies, tribes, and nations like Europe was, just spread out over a much greater distance, despite which didn't hinder their ability to communicate, travel, and trade with each other for thousands of years. Had European intervention not occurred and had the Americas been left isolated, there's no doubt in my mind one or few dominant forces in the region would, through however many cycles of power needed, eventually stabilize and sustain a massive civilization or set of civilizations close to or as complex as the one we have today... we would all just be speaking some much, much stranger languages.
Yea it's not like native Americans were less smart, which given the right resources they could be on the same level of technology as Europe, but they lacked a lot of tameable animals like cows for milk and meat, chickens for eggs and horses for easy travel, and so on. They didnt have easily domesticateable animals. Sure a bull would have been nice to have but how could you domesticate a bull with just yourself, maybe a friend and some sharp sticks. It was to difficult and even with our technology we are just starting to domesticate the bull Had the animals like horses cows and animals like that, they very well could have been the first to cross the Atlantic and go to Europe. CPG Grey covered it well in the video Americapox:the missing plague I think
I really like this idea and I think in this timeline it would be the inhabitants of the Americas that would go exploring. I think they would be astonished at the rituals of Islam and especially Catholicism (ritual symbolic cannibalism).
I'm suprised he didn't touch heavily on that already and borrow ideas. Overall the premise and it's history (bar the butterfly effect) seems plausible.
It's myth, lack of hygine =in Europe started in 16th century when pardime in medicine changed , high nad late Middle AGes was very hygenic in whole Europe, oland simply avoided black death simply becouse king Casimir the Great done same what Venice did-quarantine, great invention of Medieval medicine, he had time to close trade routes fo a while in a north (Pomerania back then was teporaly taken by Teutonic Order) and in the south through Sudets and Carpathians, that is why semi indpendet silesian dukedoms and prinicplaities avoided the spread of plague either just like mostly Venice and Milan, lack of hygine was an effects of such pandemics in later centureis not the cause, just remeber that plague spred form central Asia and touched all that hadn't been imune to it vast of Middle East and China was also depopulated, the plague was reason why Mongol dynasty in China has been overthrown. So reason why we avoided black death were sanitary cordons on trade routes
When the world blows up, Poland is just gonna fly up in one piece and continue to exist because they survive everything .Now finally free from Russia and Germany, they become an interstellar empire, leading the universe with kielbasas in hand. We need an alternate history video on this.
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Hey AlternateHistoryHub The civilizations in Mexico-ish area were pretty interested in technology, advancement, and were overall not doing too shabby. Is it possible that with these extra centuries of time to develop, they become the technological superpowers of the world? (or at least gotten a lot farther than in our timeline)
Sadly no. While their civilizations were impressive, they were geographically kind of screwed. They didn't have proper resources for advanced weapons, and even if they did, Old World diseases still would have brought them down after contact
Sorry if my questions are annoying I'm just really curious So disease would get them eventually regardless, but they did at this point, have a history of drought wiping out populations Do you think in these centuries they would have eventually attempted to invade the amazonian area for better resources, farmland, and water?
Its unlikely that they would have ever reached the Amazon, as that would have been large distance, and they would have to cross the Darién Gap at the panama-colombia border, which is impassable even to this day. They would also had to contend against Mayan city states in the Yucatan-Guatemala region. They would have overextended themselves to much. And even if they by some miracle they did reach the Amazon region, they would be fighting the peoples that lived there, who some theorize where actually more advance than was previously believed.
Well the reason why something like Smallpox was so big. Was because of the domestication of Animals and Plants in the Old World. That spread all over, from Africa to Japan. There was very little in the way of that animal husbandry in the Pre-Columbian Americas the only animals were the Turkey (Only in a few areas in North America) And the Llama in the Incan Empire. People became immune to diseases such as small pox and many others. It would seem that no matter what if it were the Chinese or the West Africans they would have come in contact with these diseases. As for attempting to expand in the Amazonian Area. I would say it would be very unlikely that they would since how would they chop down the Amazon's very dense trees with a lack of knowledge of metallurgy. I would think that they would have expanded to the Rio de la Plata Area or Columbia in the North a bit. Since they are mostly mountains and plains. Seeing how some people like the Incans would be use to that. Or maybe new civilizations would form out of influence with these empires.
Yeah, but the later waves demonstrably pale in comparison to the wave that hit Europe in the late 1340s. Not to make light of the ones from the 1660s or 1800s, but even they were no comparison.
@@ernestov1777 difference is how structured there society is? In native american tribes you realize they did not come up with much that the Europeans did not and were still living like nomads. They had no records, did not discover metallurgy and urban areas were highly sparce.
Error3000 Poland started the raping first by attacking Muscovy in the early 17th century to convert Russians to Catholicism. I love how you always skip that part.
I would like make some requests: 1. What if Nationalists won the Chinese Civil War? 2. What if the Ottoman Empire/Turkey never existed? (Like your Russia video, but in this case, it's Anatolia this time) 3. What if Byzantium extended to up to until the 19th century? 4. What if Britain joined the Central Powers? 5. What if Yugoslavia never fell, but reformed into a democratic one that is a member of the EU as well? 6. (BONUS) What if Native Americans invaded Europe? (I hate invading at Sunset, isn't it?)
Justin Patrick for 6, not much would really change. Any natives that would come over would die from disease, and could/would bring it back to America and it would spread. And since Europeans still are more technological advanced, They would still have the urge to colonize for easy trade access (and we know how this turns out). The only way this could be different is if the natives either had equal or better technology (plausible if the natives are discovering Europe first). Also now it's possible that there are no plagues that would kill off the natives (*See CGP Grey for more on why the plagues were more effective*) assuming they tech advanced civilizations lives in big groups together. Would definitely love to see a video on this, there are lots of outcomes
Here's a comment by this guy named Genghis Khan, but he's marked spam, and I cannot remove it due to Jewgle's bullshitery. I believe he already did a video of Britain in the central powers. He did, but IDK where did it go. I think it was deleted by him or something. James Burgess It would be rather interesting if the Natives had equal technology to the Europeans, and attempted to invade them. Let's say they have better armor in compensation of them having no gunpowder and such. But there's this real problem, they cannot stand against the Europeans because they don't have horses. They can do with the spears, but with guns? I think they wouldn't survive with that.
1. If this China chose to side with the Americans, the wars in Vietnam and Korea would've likely resulted in victory for America and her puppet states. 2. The Byzantine Empire doesn't fall (at least not as fast), so the Indian spice trade is never blocked, so Spain never has to look for an alternative route to India, so the Americas survive a bit longer. 3. No idea. 4. The central powers would've won, and since Germany never loses, WWII doesn't happen, at least not in the way it did in our world. But the Soviet Union would likely still rise, so maybe they'd take the Nazi's place. 5. Couldn't happen. 6. Perhaps if the Black Death or a similar plague wiped out at least 90% of Europe, Asia and the Middle East, this could happen after a few extra centuries. But predicting what would happen next is virtually impossible.
That could still theoretically be enough for some practices to spread to non-Jews. If a lot of your neighbors are trying this new thing called "washing your hands so that you're not getting your own shit in your food," you might pick it up.
Jews came to Poland AFTER the black death period took place. Poland was saved because the king Casimir the Great was smart as fuck and completely shut down the borders
Why would they? Aside from the Incas, and the Mississippian culture (which crashed for reasons of its own), there is no sign of any advancement trends in any of the cultures existing in 1492.
The trouble is, only the Incas had bronze tools/weapons. None of the other American civilizations had yet got out of the Neolithic age, and none showed any signs of doingf so.
El Deplorable But what about us Croats? Without Croatia Vienna would've fallen way before that. They saved Europe once while we saved Europe once... for 400 years.
Because of the quarantined borders and isolation. Poland was well-prepared for incoming disease. Poland still got affected, but not much like their neighbours.
Poland successfully installed quarantine and was just more caring about taking a fucking bath. They still got affected,but in comparison to rest of Europe,they didnt have so much of a problem.
Mongols weren't islamic at that time. They followed a shamanic religion called Tengrism, and were deeply influenced by Buddhism and some variants of Christianism such as Manicheanism. They wouldn't share islam with the Arabs, but would could maybe claim to be the rightful heir to christianism. In any case, the tengrist faith would probably not fade out as it did in our timeline.
The Turks were Tengriists once as well. In the timeline of the Black Death mongolian succesor nations just as the Golden Horde adapted Islam as their religion.
I agree, no one could capture Monte Casino, then the Polish did it, with heavy losses, but still conquered and held it, after failed attempts from Italy, Germany, France, Greece, and Croatia.
History is just so fascinating.. I mean my relatives probably lived in Europe during the time of the black plaque and they survived. I would really love to know more about the history of my own family and where i really come from and what it was that my relatives did to survive some of the fiercest catastrophies
Imagine if there was an alternate timeline in which this happened, but somehow TH-cam still existed, and you were doing this exact video but on if the plague killed less people and what would have happened if only a third of the population died. That's really fucked my head up
Man, the more I look at videos like this the more I start feeling glad we live in this timeline, even if the world sucks sometimes. Imagine those alternate timeline countries and nations seeing us and how we turned out.
"a key factor was that King Casimir the Great wisely quarantined the Polish borders. By holding the plague off at the borders, the disease's impact on Poland was softened."
I imagine it going something like this: "Computers are the most important tool in human history, yada yada yada... So what if all the computers stopped working on Y2K?" *black screen* "You wouldn't be watching this video." *video ends*
Basically, Europe wasn't into cleaning themselves and thought that leaving waste of every sort in the street was fine, but Poland had a lot of Jewish immigrants, who weren't liked in most of Europe because no one in history likes the Jews apparently, and they brought the sanitary habits Poland needed to not be affected by the plague, or in the least dampen the effect severely.
>Jews bringing sanitary habits to Eastern Europe Hadn't have a laugh this good for a month. Slavs and Finns have an ancient tradition of saunas/banyas. And have you ever been around orthodox jews? They're not the sort of people you'd remember as blossoming with pleasant aroma, to say the least.
What if since the beginning of humanity, everyone worked together for one goal, to colonize the galaxy? Kind of a weird scenario, but I find it interesting. Keep up the good videos
Maybe Einstein would help forge peace between the Israelis, Palestinians and Arabs that early with perhaps a Palestinian state. Relations with the rest of the Middle East would be good and any troubling event such as the oil crisis, the Islamic Revolution and 9/11 would not have happened.
+NikolaiNochnoiTV03 Probably not quite all that but definitely some of it. Einstein was politically liberal and a pacifist. That's quite the opposite of the ultra-right wing nationalism and militarism of Israel today. I'm not saying it would solve all the problems, but when one side in a conflict is moderate it's much more likely to end peacefully than when both are right wing assholes, which is kind of the case today. Israel and Palestine kind of drive each other further down this vicious cycle of becoming more and more nationalistic and aggressive toward each other and someone like Einstein could have defused things. That being said, he would have been a HORRIBLE head of state, he was not a political man, and would have likely had no talent for running a bureaucracy. Also it wouldn't change the power dynamics of Israel having big brother USA to back it up whatever it does, which is the real problem here.
Black Death was more severe in the Middle East and North Africa (+they are in the busiest trade route of the time) so if european population was wiped out, the same would happen with the middle east and north Africa Then Probably east asians or central asians would inhabit europe and the middle east as well as north africa indians could inhabit the middle east aswell especially Iran
Are you suggesting that Brown people could not or would not have the intelligence to start an Industrial Revolution ? That only Europeans could only ever have made the Industrial Revolution happen ?!
@@nicholasbaez1568 It's probable that an Industrial Revolution would have happened regardless. However, the fact that Europeans began to colonise and create oversea empires allowed them access to the vast untapped wealth of the Americas, Africa and Oceania which allowed for them to instigate it as the amount of resources needed to create the large factory machines would have been a heavy cost that may not have appeared worthwhile in the less competitive climate. If the Moors, Arabs, Turks, Mongols, Chinese, etc. never needed to open new trade routes, the Age of Exploration would have been severely delayed by many centuries (though may have gotten started by Turkish and Moorish explorations of the African coast lines from either side, but it may take even longer to dare sailing out into the Atlantic when there would have been no necessity during this time-period). If the Ottomans hadn't blocked the spice trade to Europe, then Europeans wouldn't have set out into the oceans for alternative trade routes in the first place, and the fact that it even led to the current technological innovations we use today is a fluke in an absurdly high figure.
@@nicholasbaez1568 The feeling of integrity menaces and cultural extinctions made the Europeans have the urgency to find new philosophies to "rightly deal" with these "upcoming dangers". Savagery and old ways wasn't an option anymore because it would be extremely inviable for them. Europeans then became more strategists than before, with more liberal ideas and wide thinking, but that doesn't mean very nasty shit wouldn't happen in the future (like genocide and slavery). People blame Europeans today because those f*cked up events are pretty recent if you think about it, and happened too much at a large scale.
Roderick Van Hees facts actually. Finnish culture is one of the few cultures who regularly wash themselves and keeps themselves clean. Even in the 1300.
northern europe werent exactly clean. Do you think peasants who lived on farms knew what soap was? i am FROM northern europe, we spent literally two full years of junior university learning about the black plague. Comparing the roman empire with northern europe is idiotic. It literally killed over 70% of my countrys population because we didnt know that tossing the disease ridden bodies in our drinking water was a bad idea. And you talk about the people washing themselves lol
i am FROM scandinavia you fool. I know MY history, the history of MY PEOPLE. We literally threw dead bodies in the streets for them to rot. we threw shit and piss out the window. and we let our drinking water become contaminated with the diseaseridden bodies of the plague victims. Denying facts from someone who has literally spent two years of his life studying this shit is "ignorant beyond belief". We may have had combs, so fucking what? We knew NOTHING of bacteria and viruses.
I can imagine a planet we someday find which essentially is a parallel to our own. And may go in a route like this scenario. They'd be incredibly advanced, but in waaaaaaaay different ways. It's really fascinating to think about. This is also my first video I've seen from you. Keep up the good work.
No. The war in Europe would still be over, the nuclear bomb had nothing to do with that. The war in the east between Japan and the US would be affected. With or without the bomb, Japan was already doomed. Their allies, the Germans and Italians, are defeated. They are rapidly running out of resources. Their navy is in shambles. They can't keep up with new advancements like radar. They are being bombed day and night. The question is what would be the nature of their defeat without the fear of a weapon that could rain massive destruction on their cities on a scale never before seen. It would be the difference between "unconditional surrender", which the US demanded, and conditional surrender, in which Japan could sue for peace, thus avoiding a total occupation of their nation.
There would have been loads of wars We probably would gave Been in WW4 or 5 Simply because nukes now make countries too scared to go into war with each other.
Chris The First No that is true. Poland was one of the first countries to actually make good hygiene a social norm, and they avoided the playful doing so.
The alternate history novel 'Years of Rice and Salt' comes to mind - although I think it was much harsher than this scenario by wiping out 99% of Europeans! The Gate of Worlds by Robert Silverberg also had a worse Black Death in Europe as its premise.
The Mongols weren't Muslims tho. They were a Religion Free State that tolerated people of all backgrounds and religions, and Genghis Khan himself was a Buddhist who converted into Manichaeism which still isn't Islam.
***** The Turks are still from central Asia. I mean really this should all be comment knowledge. The Mongols invaded many areas including present day Iran and Iraq. The Mongols who stayed there converted to Islam and made there way to Anatolia (Present day Turkey). Turkey today is ethnically related to central Asians. There's a reason why there's a country called Turkmenistan in central Asia. Even the Uyghurs in north west China have Turkic origins.
What if America now 2017, the land, the people, the islands[Hawaii and Alaska], military bases, everything vanished completely and the only thing is left is the memories and the newly created void that separates Canada from Mexico. Would Panama be useless, how would countries who depend on America react without any protection would the world be thrown into chaos. Who would prosper who would be destroyed please do vid!!!
+az3x Freedom of Religion? Nice colorful misinterpretation of history. The Mongols were originally Tengri, some of them converted to Christianity or Islam, eventually the empire and all the Khanates that succeeded it became de facto Islamic. They weren't advocates of "freedom of religion", they simply choose to not crack down on other religions unless the people fought back or stopped paying tribute. Tribute could include taking women/children for you don't want to know. You could be well sure that they wouldn't demand such tribute from people who shared their religion. Also keep in mind that there was a rather large span of time between them being Tengri to them being either Christian or Islamic and to them becoming fully Islamic. By the end they (the Khanates) were much different than the supposed colorful and "tolerant" horde you described.
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I love that you used 90% fatality rate because, regardless of if you knew it or not, its actually estimated that around 10% of people were immune to the disease. Now, almost every disease has people immune to it anyway but the 10% is because lots of small villages of germany were not warned about the disease at all and all lived in the same large building. They also didn't know how to counter it which means that they still took care of the diseased themselves and buried the bodies instead of burning them. So, everyone in those villages probably got infected but around 10% survived everytime without ever showing any symptoms. So if it infected absolutely everyone in Europe, it would indeed be around 10% that would survive.
They weren’t immune well some of them where but a lot of the, got symptoms but they survived they might have been resistant.
So Poland during the Black Death was like Switzerland during the World Wars?
@Titanium Mapping
Yeah, the reason Poland did so well was because of hygene. For example - the Polish king and his court took regular baths, and the kings of France bathed often under 10 times in their whole lives. You can see how that would lead to resistance to plagues for Poles.
@@jek_si2251 Nope. Poland and northern Europe was more rural than than its southern counterpart so the disease wasn't transmitted easily there. This is also why Mid East was less affected by the Black Death than in the West, because many part of it were isolated by arid, unpopulated desert. But.. the Black Death did wreck more concentrated place like Nile Delta in Egypt and between Euphrates and Tigris in Iraq.
@@jek_si2251 dude, the only way to survive the plague is to be bloodtype O.
It gives you a natural immunity.
This is why most of Europe is bloodtype O.
Poland was also a place where many Jews lived, and they as a religion were typically more hygienic than the Christians
@@kelseyc5102 poland did became the center of european jew, but that happened AFTER black death.
"disease isnt fun"
mild joke in 2017, relatable meme today.
@@legionsoldier1342 a virus is a disease
@@legionsoldier1342 Covid’s a Disease, do you know what a disease is?
I was just thinking that
countries surrounding europe: "its free real estate"
Islam you mean, Islam would have dominated the world if Europeans didn't exist, I cannot see any civilization living up to the might of Islam at the time of the medieval ages. Islam was only stopped because of Europe. If not for Europeans, America would all be Islamic
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@@alex7715 Commie bastard
Lyn he didn’t disagree with you.
their should be a video game or a tv series about this alternate universe, seeing a ruined medieval europe slowly being invaded by the other powers would be pretty interesting
Play crusader kings and start a plague in Europe via console commands. The story writes itself from there.
Later, the Inca and the Mayan invade the islamic world with their ww1 weapons
@@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 the mongols,aztecs,abbassids and ummayads would take over europe and fight among themselves
@@alphagamer9505 That's the idea.
@@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 in my game that is happening,except is the byzantines instead of the aztecs
Poland was affected by the black death, just not as much as the rest of Europe. This is due to Casimir the Great quarantining the borders and Poland's less dense population size.
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The Black Death is like one of those people who got a god-like killstreak.
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You mean like Genghis Khan, who killed 40 million people or 10% of the world's population at the time?
Master Zyrel does he have a stat clock on his empire?
"Half of everyone died"
Me: "Perfectly balanced, as all things should be"
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Read "The years of rice and salt". It's a alternate history novel where 90% of europe is wiped out and it's consequences and ripple effects.
Really good book.
Muslims also conquer Europe. But they have competition from China and the Native Americans.
He mentioned it in a newer video. I read it.
Cody namedropped the book- the audiobook version, to be precise-in 8:57... And funnily enough, the book is the inspiration for this video lol
Tbf, he namedropped it in an ad read for Audible so yeah.
I heard about it from one of Cody’s videos. I’ve been reading it at the beach for years because it’s so dense, but it’s fun
Dang it the Black Death stole my kill again
Matt Williams It stole mine too
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Without any external threat or competition from the neighboring European states, Poland can finally achieve it's destiny and can into Space!
I imagine a soda can in space with the Polish flag on it.
Noice lol
EpicEevee Probably there's one.
Note: I know this joke is from Polandball.
It is rather interesting how Poland did not capitalize on/exploit (no significant change in borders) the weakened neighbors right after the plague ebbed out.
BTW, the Polish lands where not affected because the king issued strict quarantine orders on the borders that where enforced. Sure, commerce took a plunge dive but the people at least did not die in agony.
Probably because they were worried about getting infected by the plague.
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Jaybae My love Really? They are already far behind western european societies in every regard. Conservatism, nationalism and isiolationism aren't going to help catching up.
WW2 time
@@trollemall7016 how is your regresive "progressivism" working out so far?
@@jezuz6668 You do understand how ridiculous your term "regres[s]ive preogressivism" sounds to people with a brain, right? First of all you could try to explain to me what "progressivism" is supposed to mean.
But I guess what you wanted to ask me is how my life in a free society without racial, religous and sexual discrimination and without the constant paranoia of minorities works out. I have to say it's working out great. It's really nice to have left the dark ages behind and to live by the ideals of the enlightment, science and logic rather than by blind, undeducated and ignorant fears.
@@trollemall7016 Ok, first of all, this isn't a dichotomy between literal feudalism and modern technocratic social liberalism. (I hope you consider this to be non-braindead)
A conservative nation-state can without internal philosophical contradictions still use science, "logic" and most descriptive parts of the enlightenment, although I must say that the "enlightenment" is a hard thing to define. Conservatism, in this case, refers to modern European style conservatism
Second of all, "progressivism" depending on what "type" you are talking about, isn't very "pro enlightenment" if we look at it from a value perspective. The enlightenment in many ways laid the foundation for institutions like the British and French empire and is in general pretty imperialistic.
Also, the scientific enlightenment created moralistic and civilisational meta-narratives and was in general very reductionist, this being the opposite of what post-modernism proposes. (although it is in line with marxism)
Lastly, I think you're making a logical mistake (if I have interpreted you correctly), as you seem to use the authority of "logic" and "science" to strengthen your value position. This is a fallacy as neither science or logic leads to anything, it is purely descriptive and therefore using it in this way doesn't really make sense.
I would recommend you this video as a general explainer of the fallacy I believe you have committed th-cam.com/video/KX62hnzucDE/w-d-xo.html
I hope this is useful :)
Interesting counter point: The world may very well have achieved the same technological and intellectual complexity that we have today in this timeline, but it would not have originated in Europe, but in the Americas.
Few civilizations were more complex, diverse, grand in scale, and understanding of astronomy, science, and mathematics than the Mayan empire. Of which we now know, at its peak, was essentially the population center of the earth. During its classic period (A.D. 250-900) its reach covered an area about twice the size of medieval England whilst being far more densely populated. Though the Maya eventually died out, history has proven the geography and resources of the area is capable of sustaining a massive civilization, and even after the Maya empire fell, the western world was no stranger to complex societies among its territories.
By the time the European colonization had started and Cortes went off on his mission, there were population centers still present in the area like Tenochtitlan, Texcoco, and Tlacopan, all three of which were complex, partnering city states with their own laws, economies, politics, soldiers, and infrastructure. This wasn't the only coalition of its kind either, there were other areas of the Americas that had equally complex people and settlements, such as the Iroquois confederacy which was comprised of five smaller nations (later six nations in 1722), that was governed by a Grand Council, an assembly of fifty chiefs, each representing one of the clans of one of the nations, all of which adhered to a constitution they called the "Great Law of Peace" of which the founding fathers of the United States took HEAVY inspiration from when drafting their own constitution.
Evidence has shown the Americas were an equally diverse and complex set of societies, tribes, and nations like Europe was, just spread out over a much greater distance, despite which didn't hinder their ability to communicate, travel, and trade with each other for thousands of years.
Had European intervention not occurred and had the Americas been left isolated, there's no doubt in my mind one or few dominant forces in the region would, through however many cycles of power needed, eventually stabilize and sustain a massive civilization or set of civilizations close to or as complex as the one we have today... we would all just be speaking some much, much stranger languages.
Yea it's not like native Americans were less smart, which given the right resources they could be on the same level of technology as Europe, but they lacked a lot of tameable animals like cows for milk and meat, chickens for eggs and horses for easy travel, and so on. They didnt have easily domesticateable animals. Sure a bull would have been nice to have but how could you domesticate a bull with just yourself, maybe a friend and some sharp sticks. It was to difficult and even with our technology we are just starting to domesticate the bull
Had the animals like horses cows and animals like that, they very well could have been the first to cross the Atlantic and go to Europe. CPG Grey covered it well in the video Americapox:the missing plague I think
But none of them had a gun...
These are sum long paragraphs
@@cookiemuffin3208 Maybe the Inca empire would trade with the Mesoamerican empires. The Llama for easy travel.
I really like this idea and I think in this timeline it would be the inhabitants of the Americas that would go exploring. I think they would be astonished at the rituals of Islam and especially Catholicism (ritual symbolic cannibalism).
And those 10% are in Poland
KubA KubA literally Poland.
Ha screw you im polish
Nothing to be proud of haha!
oczywiście że nam sie nic nie stało, jesteśmy po prostu fajni :)
I wish he went into more detail about what happened to Poland in this timeline. I.e. the last bastion of Europe is *Poland* of all places.
Plague Inc. Intensifies
Me playing on brutal:
WE SHOULD HAVE ANNEXED CANADA
Europe doesn't make "The Final Countdown" in this scenario.
NOOOOOOOO!!!!
You won the comment of the year award
Damn... He's good
Milsurp Mike I don't get it..
A band called Europe made a song called The Final Countdown :P
Kim Stanley Robinson wrote a book with this as the premise: "The Years of Rice and Salt"
I'm suprised he didn't touch heavily on that already and borrow ideas. Overall the premise and it's history (bar the butterfly effect) seems plausible.
He mentions it in his iceberg video
Everyone is dying
the world is ending
Oh god
the apocalypse is nearing
Poland: Heh
poland was at war then
Peppermint Cat me:*robs stores*
Oh thank God I live in poland
It's myth, lack of hygine =in Europe started in 16th century when pardime in medicine changed , high nad late Middle AGes was very hygenic in whole Europe, oland simply avoided black death simply becouse king Casimir the Great done same what Venice did-quarantine, great invention of Medieval medicine, he had time to close trade routes fo a while in a north (Pomerania back then was teporaly taken by Teutonic Order) and in the south through Sudets and Carpathians, that is why semi indpendet silesian dukedoms and prinicplaities avoided the spread of plague either just like mostly Venice and Milan, lack of hygine was an effects of such pandemics in later centureis not the cause, just remeber that plague spred form central Asia and touched all that hadn't been imune to it vast of Middle East and China was also depopulated, the plague was reason why Mongol dynasty in China has been overthrown. So reason why we avoided black death were sanitary cordons on trade routes
Peppermint Cat HAHAHAHA I GOT IT POLAND ON SPACE HAHAHAH
"Disease isn't fun"
That's subjective Cody
Right? Who doesn't love Ebola-chan?
Dancing Plague of 1518
papa Nurgle is that you?
alaster boneman
Ha ha... references...
DESTROY US ALL
Us Poles are very good at surviving
Spacey - it's all the sour cream. P.S. SLAWA
Thank God for the Polish Race!
Spacey - Also very bad at winning wars.
Keep defending yourselves against Islam please.
When the world blows up, Poland is just gonna fly up in one piece and continue to exist because they survive everything .Now finally free from Russia and Germany, they become an interstellar empire, leading the universe with kielbasas in hand. We need an alternate history video on this.
“hey guys, you like my new tattoo? It’s pronounced ‘Stultus essem’ it mean great warrior, I am like, so in touch with my 6.25 percent european ancestery, my tribe were called the Veekoongs”
Lol
"Rest assured, tens of millions of Africans are enslaved,"
REST ASSURED
rofl!
Just in case you were worried about them not becoming enslaved.
Well i was a little concerned, but im glad there's no reason to worry.
The Americans can sigh in relief, but Africa is just perpetually fucked in all timelines.
Lol XD
Here, let me contribute to the discussion.
[LOUD WHINING]
I concur
Europe: Dies
Middle East: *It's free real estate*
Turkey: *Cries in Istanbul*
@Da Turk Mapper oh yes,I thought the video said it would happen in modern world
@@oklahoma7213 that would be dark
this is kind of like an uno reverse card
WARLORD of the desert no it wouldent!!! It would be black 🐸
The moral is:
Dont be nasty
Always live healthy
Moral: Live or else die
Your profile picture is Tintin. That makes me happy.
Hey AlternateHistoryHub
The civilizations in Mexico-ish area were pretty interested in technology, advancement, and were overall not doing too shabby. Is it possible that with these extra centuries of time to develop, they become the technological superpowers of the world? (or at least gotten a lot farther than in our timeline)
Sadly no. While their civilizations were impressive, they were geographically kind of screwed. They didn't have proper resources for advanced weapons, and even if they did, Old World diseases still would have brought them down after contact
Sorry if my questions are annoying I'm just really curious
So disease would get them eventually regardless, but they did at this point, have a history of drought wiping out populations
Do you think in these centuries they would have eventually attempted to invade the amazonian area for better resources, farmland, and water?
Its unlikely that they would have ever reached the Amazon, as that would have been large distance, and they would have to cross the Darién Gap at the panama-colombia border, which is impassable even to this day. They would also had to contend against Mayan city states in the Yucatan-Guatemala region. They would have overextended themselves to much.
And even if they by some miracle they did reach the Amazon region, they would be fighting the peoples that lived there, who some theorize where actually more advance than was previously believed.
Well the reason why something like Smallpox was so big. Was because of the domestication of Animals and Plants in the Old World. That spread all over, from Africa to Japan. There was very little in the way of that animal husbandry in the Pre-Columbian Americas the only animals were the Turkey (Only in a few areas in North America) And the Llama in the Incan Empire. People became immune to diseases such as small pox and many others. It would seem that no matter what if it were the Chinese or the West Africans they would have come in contact with these diseases.
As for attempting to expand in the Amazonian Area. I would say it would be very unlikely that they would since how would they chop down the Amazon's very dense trees with a lack of knowledge of metallurgy. I would think that they would have expanded to the Rio de la Plata Area or Columbia in the North a bit. Since they are mostly mountains and plains. Seeing how some people like the Incans would be use to that. Or maybe new civilizations would form out of influence with these empires.
Oh right I forgot that panama area is super hard to get through :/
"Disease are bad"
Well atleast you can skip school
ASMR GOD do you to school when you’re dead?
You can skip life
If you die
no he means you stay alive but since you're sick you wil not go to school.
Richardson Productions but like no school
The Black Death or the Plague didn't just occur in one 10 year span, it recurred multiple times over multiple centuries.
Yeah but this was the latest and most deadly
It happened in England in the 1600’s and on the west coast in the early 1900’s just not as bad.
The one in England was devastating
The okay recorded major outbreak of plague in Europe was, IIRC, in the early 1800s.
Yeah, but the later waves demonstrably pale in comparison to the wave that hit Europe in the late 1340s. Not to make light of the ones from the 1660s or 1800s, but even they were no comparison.
"It's estimated at least a third to even half of Europeans died over 7 years."
*THANOS HAS JOINED THE CHAT*
Imagine astronauts being the first Old World people to discover the Americas.
You mean opposite
In this scenario we don't go much of...well anywhere.
That's actually kinda amazing.
"Discover America" there were already humans in America. You are looking things from an Eurocentric point of view.
@@ernestov1777 difference is how structured there society is? In native american tribes you realize they did not come up with much that the Europeans did not and were still living like nomads. They had no records, did not discover metallurgy and urban areas were highly sparce.
who need a history teacher when you got AlternateHistoryHub
Rainbow Six Siege MUTE JAMMERS IN PLACE
Rainbow Six Siege overwatch font lol
needs*
FullMetalBlackBeard no
It will be like you're in Plague Inc
Hack Codex well first you don't know how to speak or type English and second no no it wouldn't
Oh, is that so? Can you correct my sentence? Mr. Grammar Nazi
OK, Hack. But a comma where your second question mark is. Put the question mark where your period is.
Thank you for not being rude. My first language isn't English and I'm still learning
But for some reason my classmates think I'm good and always ask me to correct their sentences, which is a little bit annoying
Ottoman Empire be like in the Balkans:
Hippity hoppity this is now my property
Nice pfp
Nice pfps
Lmao
Nice pfp
Nice PfP
What if i could get a girlfriend?
That timeline doesn't exist. It's just impossible.
You picked the wrong video fool!
Lighting in a bottle scenario
You will have less money in your wallet and higher stress.
Same for me!
Some strange fluke of nature, I am just not compatible with human women... apparently?
"half of everyone died EXCEPT FOR POLAND"
pikminexplorer Polska stronk.
lol
Its actually all because of Casimir the Great, he just started a quarantine.
We survived (Poland) but some time later we will be raped by our neighbours soooo
Error3000 Poland started the raping first by attacking Muscovy in the early 17th century to convert Russians to Catholicism. I love how you always skip that part.
1:55 Poland is illuminati confirmed! Thus, Russia and Germany want Poland!
I’m polish xddd
LightStra I'm from Poland too XD
nah thats just a crazy theory.... lets not talk about this further....... its just a crazy theory.......... BTW IM POLISH:)))
Dead meme
Joshua Brown Poland, no plagues, no terrorist attacks.
WTF is Poland doing
2020: Coronavirus Outbreak
TH-cam’s Algorithm: ...
Yeahhhh
The algorihm is a Harsh mistres
Haha you are so funny, no one else ever would've thought to make that joke right now, only you! Only you!
It can always be worse.
Yeah, its only killed about 2 million people and still going.
I would like make some requests:
1. What if Nationalists won the Chinese Civil War?
2. What if the Ottoman Empire/Turkey never existed? (Like your Russia video, but in this case, it's Anatolia this time)
3. What if Byzantium extended to up to until the 19th century?
4. What if Britain joined the Central Powers?
5. What if Yugoslavia never fell, but reformed into a democratic one that is a member of the EU as well?
6. (BONUS) What if Native Americans invaded Europe? (I hate invading at Sunset, isn't it?)
Fucking Aztecs.
The answer to #5 is no more bananas in the Balkans
Justin Patrick for 6, not much would really change. Any natives that would come over would die from disease, and could/would bring it back to America and it would spread. And since Europeans still are more technological advanced, They would still have the urge to colonize for easy trade access (and we know how this turns out).
The only way this could be different is if the natives either had equal or better technology (plausible if the natives are discovering Europe first). Also now it's possible that there are no plagues that would kill off the natives (*See CGP Grey for more on why the plagues were more effective*) assuming they tech advanced civilizations lives in big groups together.
Would definitely love to see a video on this, there are lots of outcomes
Here's a comment by this guy named Genghis Khan, but he's marked spam, and I cannot remove it due to Jewgle's bullshitery.
I believe he already did a video of Britain in the central powers.
He did, but IDK where did it go. I think it was deleted by him or something.
James Burgess
It would be rather interesting if the Natives had equal technology to the Europeans, and attempted to invade them. Let's say they have better armor in compensation of them having no gunpowder and such. But there's this real problem, they cannot stand against the Europeans because they don't have horses. They can do with the spears, but with guns? I think they wouldn't survive with that.
1. If this China chose to side with the Americans, the wars in Vietnam and Korea would've likely resulted in victory for America and her puppet states. 2. The Byzantine Empire doesn't fall (at least not as fast), so the Indian spice trade is never blocked, so Spain never has to look for an alternative route to India, so the Americas survive a bit longer. 3. No idea. 4. The central powers would've won, and since Germany never loses, WWII doesn't happen, at least not in the way it did in our world. But the Soviet Union would likely still rise, so maybe they'd take the Nazi's place. 5. Couldn't happen. 6. Perhaps if the Black Death or a similar plague wiped out at least 90% of Europe, Asia and the Middle East, this could happen after a few extra centuries. But predicting what would happen next is virtually impossible.
3:55 "Its free real estate"
Poland knew the importance of a big and beautiful wall
looking at how many terror attacks and immigrants Poland has, they still do
That could still theoretically be enough for some practices to spread to non-Jews. If a lot of your neighbors are trying this new thing called "washing your hands so that you're not getting your own shit in your food," you might pick it up.
*when everybody takes the joke seriously*
And before you went to the city, you had to take a bath.
Jews came to Poland AFTER the black death period took place. Poland was saved because the king Casimir the Great was smart as fuck and completely shut down the borders
“No more Southern Europeans”
Well now I start to care about this
No pizza
@@Historyboi-vn7gd YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
me too seen im one of them
No greek! It’s awesome
Βλέπω? Είναι! Μην αφήσετε την πανούκλα να σκοτώσει την Ελλάδα.
Lmao same😭😭 I was like woah woah this has gone too far
If the Americas were never colonized, wouldn’t the indigenous people keep advancing much farther than in our timeline?
Malika Brown but in our timeline they just died by European diseases. They would advance but not in a fast way
Why would they? Aside from the Incas, and the Mississippian culture (which crashed for reasons of its own), there is no sign of any advancement trends in any of the cultures existing in 1492.
They stopped advancing since the neolithic, i don't see them suddenly changing given a couple centuries.
I was expecting him to expand on that :( Indigenous societies in Mexico and South America were incredibly advanced before being colonized
The trouble is, only the Incas had bronze tools/weapons. None of the other American civilizations had yet got out of the Neolithic age, and none showed any signs of doingf so.
Poland, place where even plagues don't want to go :,)
lollll
szymon boniecki przez to jest zajebista
ThatOneChillMofo You do know that Poland has a large minority of Muslims right?
That's right. I even have muslim neighbour
Estonia is 98% Blue Eyed White Europeans. Hope it stays that way.
video idea: what if the winged hussars hadn't arrived?
Meme Lord then Vienna falls.
Meme Lord DUH DUH DUH DUH DUHDUHDUHDUHDUH DUH
Arrived where? I'm from Poland, but I hate history so.... XD
El Deplorable yey and you're welcome
El Deplorable But what about us Croats? Without Croatia Vienna would've fallen way before that. They saved Europe once while we saved Europe once... for 400 years.
Does anyone here know why Poland was never affected
Because of the quarantined borders and isolation. Poland was well-prepared for incoming disease.
Poland still got affected, but not much like their neighbours.
Harsh Sidhu Harsh Sidhu No, but actually yes
Poland successfully installed quarantine and was just more caring about taking a fucking bath. They still got affected,but in comparison to rest of Europe,they didnt have so much of a problem.
The Jews in Poland were far more hygienic than Christians
@@DeeRod10 Um does this have anything to do with religion?
Mongols weren't islamic at that time. They followed a shamanic religion called Tengrism, and were deeply influenced by Buddhism and some variants of Christianism such as Manicheanism. They wouldn't share islam with the Arabs, but would could maybe claim to be the rightful heir to christianism. In any case, the tengrist faith would probably not fade out as it did in our timeline.
Nope, Golden Horde became muslim during first half of XIV century, just before Black Death
The Turks were Tengriists once as well. In the timeline of the Black Death mongolian succesor nations just as the Golden Horde adapted Islam as their religion.
Poland has to save Europe again like they did in Vienna
kotzpenner more like Europe saves Poland your country is shite
Poland didn't save Europe, they just won a battle. If they lost, the ottomans would've been defeated anyway.
Adam David How exactly is Europe today going to save Poland?Refugees?
Jan III Sobieski has been my historical husband for months now lmao
I agree, no one could capture Monte Casino, then the Polish did it, with heavy losses, but still conquered and held it, after failed attempts from Italy, Germany, France, Greece, and Croatia.
The coronavirus taking notes like: *hmmmmm 👀*
Black Death
Coronavirus hold my beer
69 like
Why are people giving the gods ideas?
fuck
Six months later this hasn't aged well especially in the United States
"Disease is bad"
*goes on to explain how the Black Death helped Europe develope.*
Proud Thanos noises*
So true.
The more you know
History is just so fascinating.. I mean my relatives probably lived in Europe during the time of the black plaque and they survived. I would really love to know more about the history of my own family and where i really come from and what it was that my relatives did to survive some of the fiercest catastrophies
Makes sense. Then you could find out if you have a counterpart there.
This is probably one of your best alternate history videos. I like it when you spend more time on speculation than context.
Imagine if there was an alternate timeline in which this happened, but somehow TH-cam still existed, and you were doing this exact video but on if the plague killed less people and what would have happened if only a third of the population died.
That's really fucked my head up
Man, the more I look at videos like this the more I start feeling glad we live in this timeline, even if the world sucks sometimes. Imagine those alternate timeline countries and nations seeing us and how we turned out.
Poland cannot to plaque.
cannot into space as well :(
"a key factor was that King Casimir the Great wisely quarantined the Polish borders. By holding the plague off at the borders, the disease's impact on Poland was softened."
Slashplite can
Ah. That explains why.
you should do if all computers blew up on January 1st 2000
Sexy Lightswitch Yes please
I imagine it going something like this:
"Computers are the most important tool in human history, yada yada yada... So what if all the computers stopped working on Y2K?"
*black screen*
"You wouldn't be watching this video."
*video ends*
The computers would have been replaced.
it would have been big, but not nearly as bad as today.
Half of every one died EXCEPT POLAND me:😐
This is just fact. Check this.
Basically, Europe wasn't into cleaning themselves and thought that leaving waste of every sort in the street was fine, but Poland had a lot of Jewish immigrants, who weren't liked in most of Europe because no one in history likes the Jews apparently, and they brought the sanitary habits Poland needed to not be affected by the plague, or in the least dampen the effect severely.
>Jews bringing sanitary habits to Eastern Europe
Hadn't have a laugh this good for a month. Slavs and Finns have an ancient tradition of saunas/banyas. And have you ever been around orthodox jews? They're not the sort of people you'd remember as blossoming with pleasant aroma, to say the least.
Alexey Saranchev
Good point!
Edward Nygma That’s also why muslims had a lesser death rate than Christian Europeans, because they washed themselves 5 times a day.
Play of the game
Black Death as Reaper
Elimination:75 million
😂😂😂🤷♂️
One hell of a death blossom.
*IM TRYNA SLEEP OVA HERE*
What if since the beginning of humanity, everyone worked together for one goal, to colonize the galaxy? Kind of a weird scenario, but I find it interesting. Keep up the good videos
yea
Alternate history hub posts at midnight...savage mode
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Upcoming Playmaker midday here
There's a book about this very subject called "The Years of Rice and Salt" by Kim Stanley Robinson.
Poland is dont scared of flees
Damian Duzel But Poland is scared of your grammar.
Ken Shiro oooooooooooooh damn!
He just got roasted!
Ken Shiro it's a reference. Poland is scared of your lack of knowledge of pop culture
Ken Shiro it’s not grammar is spelling
EpiX Cookie I know this is late but it's grammar
"Disease isn't fun" really hits more in 2022 than it did in 2017
What if Einstein did become the president of Israel?
Maybe Einstein would help forge peace between the Israelis, Palestinians and Arabs that early with perhaps a Palestinian state. Relations with the rest of the Middle East would be good and any troubling event such as the oil crisis, the Islamic Revolution and 9/11 would not have happened.
+NikolaiNochnoiTV03 Probably not quite all that but definitely some of it. Einstein was politically liberal and a pacifist. That's quite the opposite of the ultra-right wing nationalism and militarism of Israel today. I'm not saying it would solve all the problems, but when one side in a conflict is moderate it's much more likely to end peacefully than when both are right wing assholes, which is kind of the case today. Israel and Palestine kind of drive each other further down this vicious cycle of becoming more and more nationalistic and aggressive toward each other and someone like Einstein could have defused things. That being said, he would have been a HORRIBLE head of state, he was not a political man, and would have likely had no talent for running a bureaucracy. Also it wouldn't change the power dynamics of Israel having big brother USA to back it up whatever it does, which is the real problem here.
He did help found the Technion institute in Haifa, but he had no desire to be a politician.
More like what if the head of the so called "Palestinian state" wasn't a terrorist enabling twat and was actually interested in peace
Maybe due to him being supportive of Palestinians, He would've done a Palestinian-Israeli State
Thanks for recommending this to me during the middle of the CoVID pandemic TH-cam!
"Disease isnt fun"
Cody -2017
What if earth was never invented
Franco Vera Earth wasn’t invented and short answer: Nobody would be here
Franco Vera we wouldn’t be here
the f u talking about earth wasnt ivented
Franco Vera Long story short - We wouldn't be here.
Different planet
Years of rice and salt ???
Ares Brandon 1997 just what I was thinking
at the end he says that reading it gave him the inspiration to make this video
I literally finished than book today
James George I think I read that one sometime last years? good book though
Everybody will be salty ;)
Black Death was more severe in the Middle East and North Africa (+they are in the busiest trade route of the time) so if european population was wiped out, the same would happen with the middle east and north Africa
Then Probably east asians or central asians would inhabit europe and the middle east as well as north africa indians could inhabit the middle east aswell especially Iran
Are you suggesting that Brown people could not or would not have the intelligence to start an Industrial Revolution ? That only Europeans could only ever have made the Industrial Revolution happen ?!
@@nicholasbaez1568 It's probable that an Industrial Revolution would have happened regardless. However, the fact that Europeans began to colonise and create oversea empires allowed them access to the vast untapped wealth of the Americas, Africa and Oceania which allowed for them to instigate it as the amount of resources needed to create the large factory machines would have been a heavy cost that may not have appeared worthwhile in the less competitive climate. If the Moors, Arabs, Turks, Mongols, Chinese, etc. never needed to open new trade routes, the Age of Exploration would have been severely delayed by many centuries (though may have gotten started by Turkish and Moorish explorations of the African coast lines from either side, but it may take even longer to dare sailing out into the Atlantic when there would have been no necessity during this time-period). If the Ottomans hadn't blocked the spice trade to Europe, then Europeans wouldn't have set out into the oceans for alternative trade routes in the first place, and the fact that it even led to the current technological innovations we use today is a fluke in an absurdly high figure.
@@nicholasbaez1568 The feeling of integrity menaces and cultural extinctions made the Europeans have the urgency to find new philosophies to "rightly deal" with these "upcoming dangers". Savagery and old ways wasn't an option anymore because it would be extremely inviable for them. Europeans then became more strategists than before, with more liberal ideas and wide thinking, but that doesn't mean very nasty shit wouldn't happen in the future (like genocide and slavery).
People blame Europeans today because those f*cked up events are pretty recent if you think about it, and happened too much at a large scale.
Or We could just all die and hand it over to Animals.
If taking a bath, the Europeans say: "Hell nawh!"
Who killed cats?
Europeans.
The source of the plague in first place.
How about if Julius Caeser hadn't been betrayed and murdered?
Poland didn’t deal with anyones bullcrap.
thanos: you should have gone for the head! *snaps*
half of europe: I don't feel so good! *dies*
Because Poland is badass
Smol Trash Cat Because Poland actually took regular baths.
Smol Trash Cat Hell yee
Get invaded by Germans and Russia
Polan can into survive
Also Lyon survived we even have a célébration about it
Finland wasn't effected by the Black death at all. That is a fact.
Akseli Halonen and what is a source?
Roderick Van Hees facts actually. Finnish culture is one of the few cultures who regularly wash themselves and keeps themselves clean. Even in the 1300.
So, you're telling us, you've got no source. Just 'facts'.
northern europe werent exactly clean. Do you think peasants who lived on farms knew what soap was? i am FROM northern europe, we spent literally two full years of junior university learning about the black plague.
Comparing the roman empire with northern europe is idiotic. It literally killed over 70% of my countrys population because we didnt know that tossing the disease ridden bodies in our drinking water was a bad idea. And you talk about the people washing themselves lol
i am FROM scandinavia you fool. I know MY history, the history of MY PEOPLE. We literally threw dead bodies in the streets for them to rot. we threw shit and piss out the window. and we let our drinking water become contaminated with the diseaseridden bodies of the plague victims. Denying facts from someone who has literally spent two years of his life studying this shit is "ignorant beyond belief". We may have had combs, so fucking what? We knew NOTHING of bacteria and viruses.
I can imagine a planet we someday find which essentially is a parallel to our own. And may go in a route like this scenario. They'd be incredibly advanced, but in waaaaaaaay different ways. It's really fascinating to think about. This is also my first video I've seen from you. Keep up the good work.
Poland: ouch!!
Rest of Europe: *ohhhhhhhhh my God please help me AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!*
Do: What if the Australians won the Great Emu War ?!?!?
Look at me Im de captain now I think their world be more than one emu war because if the first one was a victory why stop
Yes!
lmao
That reaper got such a fucking good play of the game
Hey Cody, could you do 'What if Operation Market Garden succeed?' It would have defiantly cut the war by at least a year
Movie Man Operation Market Garden took place in September 1944, the war in Europe ended in May 1945. That's way less than a year :)
What a defiant operation it was indeed
Disease isn’t fun.
Everyone in 2020: You don’t say?
this ain't on that scale
Yeah, but, Covid ain't got shit on the Black Death.
I wish
Not as bad as the black death but still not fun
what if the nuke was never invented?
polish dud solidarnosc WWII would go on much longer and the allies could potentially have lost.
No. The war in Europe would still be over, the nuclear bomb had nothing to do with that. The war in the east between Japan and the US would be affected. With or without the bomb, Japan was already doomed. Their allies, the Germans and Italians, are defeated. They are rapidly running out of resources. Their navy is in shambles. They can't keep up with new advancements like radar. They are being bombed day and night. The question is what would be the nature of their defeat without the fear of a weapon that could rain massive destruction on their cities on a scale never before seen.
It would be the difference between "unconditional surrender", which the US demanded, and conditional surrender, in which Japan could sue for peace, thus avoiding a total occupation of their nation.
And the Cold War could've been much hotter considering MAD isn't as big a threat to the world.
the us probably co u don't fuck up japan
There would have been loads of wars
We probably would gave Been in WW4 or 5
Simply because nukes now make countries too scared to go into war with each other.
The Polish Revolution begins.
Until the Mongols took over.
1:57 Why wasn't Poland affected?!
King Casimir the Great shut down the borders
Alonzo Aldaba there werent that many jews in poland
Chris The First
No that is true. Poland was one of the first countries to actually make good hygiene a social norm, and they avoided the playful doing so.
Stephen Coffey
nvm i read my comment again and deleted it, you are right
Kamarovskygames BOY, THATS FUCKED UP
The alternate history novel 'Years of Rice and Salt' comes to mind - although I think it was much harsher than this scenario by wiping out 99% of Europeans! The Gate of Worlds by Robert Silverberg also had a worse Black Death in Europe as its premise.
4:21 it could reach Vienna
10 seconds later
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
"Disease Isn't Fun"
That would explain how terrible the cancerous comments feel
Obscure History *Inserts Fnaf*
Alternatehistorymapper 420 Inserts undertale
Obscure History I C WUT U DIDERE.
;)
*Inserts fidget spinner*
Here's one you might like, what if the Sino-Soviet split went to all-out war during their border conflicts in the 60s?
Kim Stanley Robinson explored this idea in his book, "The Years of Rice and Salt."
POLAND STRONK!
I need food... And there's no other animals here soo....
They were the only hygenic people in europe
Poland Sanitary!
Xsawor except ww2
Xsawor Also Finland.
The Mongols weren't Muslims tho. They were a Religion Free State that tolerated people of all backgrounds and religions, and Genghis Khan himself was a Buddhist who converted into Manichaeism which still isn't Islam.
The Supreme Xtream Many Mongols converted to Islam. Where do you think the Turks came from? they're from central Asia.
The Turks came from the Ottoman Empire which came a century after the Mongol Empire, but they didn't interfere in Mongol Territorial Grounds.
The Mongols tended to adopt the main religion practiced by their subjects over time. In most cases, that religion was Islam.
***** The Turks are still from central Asia. I mean really this should all be comment knowledge. The Mongols invaded many areas including present day Iran and Iraq. The Mongols who stayed there converted to Islam and made there way to Anatolia (Present day Turkey). Turkey today is ethnically related to central Asians. There's a reason why there's a country called Turkmenistan in central Asia. Even the Uyghurs in north west China have Turkic origins.
turks and mongols aren't related tho
"The Years of Rice and Salt"
this would be such a great story for a video game or movie
What if America now 2017, the land, the people, the islands[Hawaii and Alaska], military bases, everything vanished completely and the only thing is left is the memories and the newly created void that separates Canada from Mexico. Would Panama be useless, how would countries who depend on America react without any protection would the world be thrown into chaos. Who would prosper who would be destroyed please do vid!!!
Matthew Pitts when you say America you say US. Pls stop confusing stuff.
Alaska isnt an island
Flydrop88 america is a nickname for the U.S
WiredNetwork Technologies as i said, it confuses stuff and it is a nickname that shouldn't be used
WiredNetwork Technologies its the other way around..
CoronaVirus: What are you?
Black death: I am you but better.
mongols werent muslim they had freedom of religion and many chose asian or no religion
Albino asian religions*
they eventually converted to islam
i have actually considered converting to Asian.
seems like a pretty cool religion
SlimeMapper96 yeah but with the conquest from east asia to west the picked up a lot of religions that's why they had freedom of religion
+az3x
Freedom of Religion? Nice colorful misinterpretation of history. The Mongols were originally Tengri, some of them converted to Christianity or Islam, eventually the empire and all the Khanates that succeeded it became de facto Islamic. They weren't advocates of "freedom of religion", they simply choose to not crack down on other religions unless the people fought back or stopped paying tribute. Tribute could include taking women/children for you don't want to know. You could be well sure that they wouldn't demand such tribute from people who shared their religion.
Also keep in mind that there was a rather large span of time between them being Tengri to them being either Christian or Islamic and to them becoming fully Islamic. By the end they (the Khanates) were much different than the supposed colorful and "tolerant" horde you described.
Lumbago, Tubeculosis and Not Having a plan is the worst disease know to man.
Europe couldn't possible bounce back...
WAKE UP EVERY MORNING BY THE NIGHT I COUNT STACKS!
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IF YOUNG METRO DON'T TRUST YA IMMA SHOOT YA
I couldn't not think about that.
when white kids try to be cool.
sumin156 when black kids comment on an educational history video