A brief HISTORY OF THE RECORDER! | Team Recorder
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- Welcome to my brief history of the recorder - 40,000 years (yep, you read that right) condensed into some minutes!
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I quickly mention SO MUCH STUFF in this video - if you want to know more about any of it, just ask your favourite search engine! Here are the topics/names I touch upon:
MEDIEVAL AND BEFORE
Dordrecht recorder
Gottinger recorder
Painting 'The Mocking of Jesus' (after 1315)
RENAISSANCE
Sebastian Virdung
Martin Argricola
'La Fontegara' by Sylvestro Ganassi
BAROQUE
Handel
Monteverdi
Purcell
Bach
Lully
Telemann
Vivaldi
Hotteterre
CLASSICAL-ROMANTIC
Flageolet
Czakan
CPE Bach
Schultz
Weber
Mendelsohn
Herbele/Krahmer/Bousquet
Mendelsohn
Berlioz
EARLY MUSIC REVIVAL
Dolmetsch family
Hindemith / Ligeti / Britten / Berstein
Frans Bruggen
MODERN
Sweet by Andriessen
Gets by Berio
Walter van haul
Kees Boeke
Antonio Politano
INSTRUMENTS
Helder
Paetzold/Kunath
Eagle
Phillipe Boulton
Elody
Adriana Breukink + subcontrabass recorder in Bb
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I am a professional pianist, and I haven't played the recorder since I was a kid. It was my first instrument; I started playing it in a 'music kindergarten' I was in. After stumbling upon your videos a couple of years ago, I have dug my old recorders out of the closet and started playing them again. I'm no good, but I love the instrument, and I'm slowly getting a little better, playing folk songs and improvisation. Thank you so much for your irrepressible enthusiasm and treasure trove of knowledge. Your videos always inspire.
Thanks for your nice message, and I’m so happy my videos inspired you to take up recorder again! 😄💪🏼💪🏼
Sarah!! Your channel is amazing! I have been playing the recorder for several years and homeschooled my children and taught them the soprano recorder..until they went on to other instruments piano and violin. I live in North Carolina where we have a great musical community. For the past several years I have been a member of the Recorder ensemble. I now play the alto. Still learning so much, but you are helping me so much!! thank you, and oh, CONGRATULATIONS on becoming a momma!! blessings to you and your wonderful family! Elizabeth
9:58 I remember when my school forced us, to learn recorder in 4th grade and I stopped playing after 5th grade, because I used to hate it so much and lost interest in it. (But then again, I was terrible at back then.) But now, I play guitar, piano, ukulele, and ocarina, and I'm considering starting to play recorder again 👍 thank you for inspiring me to do it ❤ Absolutely love your channel by the way.
That's awesome! And you play so many instruments, great :D Nice to have recorder back in the mix too!
Goth, I totally understand. I taught a family of four. The oldest three (Quinton, Rachel, and Sierra) were all good musicians but didn't like the recorder. They all became great musicians in high school and one of them is majoring in music in college. However, the youngest, (Natalie) was in my Recorder Club ensemble and went pretty in recorder belts and repertoire. During on of our classes (for beginners) she told me why her older siblings never really tried to be in our performing ensemble or pursue it. She said they couldn't stand the sound of it when they were learning it. Natalie kept perfecting her technique until she could play at a level where she felt comfortable playing in front of others. So, i completely understand your comment!
Your enthusiasm is refreshing. I don't even play the recorder and I still enjoy learning from your videos.
Absolutely fascinating. I love learning about the history of the recorder. Thanks Sarah, you are so knowledgable. Suggestion for future video: Mendelssohn's compositions featuring recorder.
Nice! I'd actually love to see a video about how the shape of recorders was developing through the history.
I absolutely love how you start your videos : " Hello everybody ! I'm Sarah and I'm recorder playa !" ( I know it's "player"... it sounds that way to me ) Almost like you're in a hurry and can't wait to start the video. Don't ever stop saying that ! ( I don't know why... ) Great videos !
I've payed alto saxophone for a year and a half. Always wanted to play the flute ( one day...) Trying the recorder now because it's lighter and I don't have much time at hand. ( I know... It sucks ! )
Thank you! I was desperately awaiting one of your videos. I had such a shitty day, so this is really perfect timing!
Yes, yes, yes!!! Been eagerly awaiting this segment. Thank you!!
Bravo! Never knew some of these!
What about a Recorder playing reveal at 150k subs? ;)
I have loved the recorder for decades. I am a fumbling player but love the music and have many instruments from the Sopranino to the Basset. I just can’t get my fingers going fast enough! LOL. I have books on the history and loved reading them. I taught my children and my wife. All love music. But the recorder is the baseline. My biggest bug bear was teachers at school teaching incorrect methods because the weren’t interested in the instrument. And you know the results of that sort of instruction. Thank you for your posts, God Bless you!
For a year I've been attempting to track down just why we stopped producing keyed recorders and why there are no replicas of romantic era recorders today. I'd love to get my hands on a replica of a keyed, 1800s replica recorder to see what sort of range, dynamic, and timbral things have changed (just think of the difference between a baroque and modern oboe!). Any insights on these would be GREATLY appreciated! And as always, you're the best!
Always so generous, Sarah! Thank you very much!!
Very cool video! Music history is fascinating!
Fascinating. A suggestion for another video: famous recorder makers from the past.
I do think that the environment the recorder is played in makes a huge difference, historically it would have been played in spaces with very little in the way of soft furnishings and this makes it sound wonderful, and also quite loud. In modern houses, full of cushions, carpets, curtains and lounge suites the recorder sounds so different, the soft furnishings muffle the sound and it has less depth as a result. If you practice, for example, in a bathroom, you get a better idea of how beautiful an instrument it is.
It’s true that the acoustics make a huge difference! Performing in a small chirch for example, is beautiful. But we don’t know for sure about the division of soft/hard furnishing historically- there were tapestries and cushions galore in rich houses of old, and many minimalist bare floored houses today!
Stairwells can also have great acoustics for playing recorders. And other instruments. I once bought a ukulele I shouldn’t have because the dealer at a conference told me to go try it in the nearby stairwell of the hotel. It sounded amazing there-and never sounded as good again.
I'm hardcore electro-industrial musician, but have recently picked up the Tenor Recorder >D
Love your videos Sarah! They are so helpful and interesting, so much so you've inspired me to start getting lessons! THANK YOU and keep up the good work! :)
L II because of it's shape I crocheted a cover for one. Oh my!
Fascinating! I had no idea the oldest known instruments were SO old! :-o
I love this brief of recorder history!!
Sarah and friends, I can't wait till we get to the "scary" 2nd octave which recently I have had "some, but not a lot" success. (smile)
Lots of interesting stuff! Thanks for another video!
Dodrecht recorder is my favourite . Have a bit faded sound 😊😊
Thank you! Very interesting and much appreciated.
Wow thanks! Your videos are such fun and I’m learning tons of interesting new things 😊
Very well done. Thank You
Merci beaucoup Sarah thanks Sarah good documentary 😀
Many thanks for all that you do. Your love for music and this particular team of instruments comes through loud and clear and helps us all enjoy the "lessons". But you don't need our accolades because the reward comes in the activity itself, as you know. How sweet it is to make music!!
A couple of random comments, not directly related to this video.
With regard to learning my heart, the first thing for me is to absolutely love the piece (and I don't know that many songs, so I speak from novice-land). I'm fond of American songbook, Cole Porter, Richard Rogers, etc., so that's where I've started to "learn by heart." The heart actually precedes the learning. Someday I'll attempt the Handel A minor sonata.
I don't want to wash my Yamaha soprano because it has beach sand and sea water residue that give the sound texture, like a wood grain. That could be just in my imagination but I'm stubborn.
Best, Andrew
New Mexico, USA
This video helped me a lot when I had to research about the recorder. Thanks 😊
thank you for posting such fascinating and helpful content! I'm on my seventh grade of recorder now and these videos help with the stress sometimes (phew! it's hard work, but it's fun). :) team recorder!
I'm a bit late to the party, but your mention of Dolmetsch reminded me that he's referred to in Joyce's "Ulysses" along with the rather hair raising price for those times.
"Stephen, in reply to a politely put query, said he didn’t sing it but launched out into praises of Shakespeare’s songs, at least of in or about that period, the lutenist Dowland who lived in Fetter lane near Gerard the herbalist, who anno ludendo hausi, Doulandus, an instrument he was contemplating purchasing from Mr Arnold Dolmetsch, whom B. did not quite recall though the name certainly sounded familiar, for sixtyfive guineas..."
Hello Sarah, I can only imagine how long it took you to prepare this video and decide what to say and what to leave out. Well, the result is very informative and interesting. Well done, as usual!
Personally I am not that overwhelmed by contemporary recorder "vague" (or "vogue"). I mean, the recorder has now established itself and a lot of material is being published but I don't see it acquiring further importance and it cannot compete with the typical XIX century instruments (strings, piano, woods, brass, etc.).
It's probably due to the fact that the current core of the repertoire is still that composed between the late XVIII and the early XX centuries, when the recorder was "out of fashion".
Second, I've watched some videos about new recorders with electronics and / or keys and I can't say to be impressed by them. In the best case, they sound like a transverse flute but that already exists.
Here is an idea for a new video, perhaps? A review of the major recorder "developments"? With your opinion on them? Pretty please?
Fantastic video. 👍🏻
Greetings from Brazil!
I have actually handled the Dordrecht Recorder and went to Holland to look at it for my employer "Atelier for Historic Wind Instruments" I doubt whether anyone would be allowed to handle it today. In the early 1980s (working on my own account) I made a few reconstructions of it.
Amazing!!
Thanks Sarah for reading of my experience looking at the Dordrecht Recorder. I am digging out some of my own samples of reconstructions of it - Inspired by you I am getting back to playing the recorder mainly on my own and bought the Zen-on A415 Bressan plastic copy you reviewed. I was surprised finding some references to myself on this webpage www.recorderhomepage.net/instruments/a-memento-the-medieval-recorder/modern-reconstructions/
6:46 I always thought Tafelmusik was music for feasts or at least for eating (tafeln - fancy word for eating). When you play music at home that would be Hausmusik.
Lovely!
Thanks Sarah! - Sarah, would you or someone from team recorder comment why humans seem to like the diatonic scale so much? The 6 hole diatonic flute, fipple, transverse, or ocarina/xun have been around "forever." One of the earliest possibly being the Divje Babe Flute at 45,000 years ago. Using modern terms Tone, Semitone .. T - T - S - T - T - T - S seems just nice to the modern human ear. And perhaps the ancient one. For many of us to wander through all the half steps of a 12 tone equal temperament system seems just to sound a bit odd. Yet I found the mathematics a little tough to follow why. the 1:2 and the 2:3 ration. "Diatonic" came from the Greeks. The Indian bansuri (transverse and fipple) at 200 BCE as a 6 hole flute (also 8 hole) has been around for a long time too. In a way the 12 tone system makes more mathematical sense.
We don't quite know if Neanderthals had flutes. Early modern man had flutes. s: 38,000 to about 40,000 years ago - modern humans making music together. he mentions that two sites in the south of Germany flutes (mammoth ivory) ....(also griffin vulture bones) and this flute (reconstructed by Horner in Germany (edit) ) makes the same range of sounds that a modern recorder would make [sw:actually I think others argued it were a 6 hole whistle] and example sound of a reconstructed ancient flute starts here: th-cam.com/video/W8ZTp-gs-Ok/w-d-xo.html&t=1345
Err... It's cultural, as far as I know. Diatonic scales dominate in Europe, but pentatonic scales are also common. The chromatic scale may be logical on the surface, but humans are rarely logical.
If we're defining the recorder as a whistle with a thumb-hole at the back (which is a pretty broad definition anyway) I don't know if any of the medieval images conclusively show the thumb-hole. They may show that the thumb supports the whistle/recorder, but that's about all.
I'm not an expert on the Tudors, but I understand that Henry Viii did not actually write any tunes - he simply took over well-known tunes such as Greensleeeves, informed the world that he had written them, and no-one with any sense of self-preservation was going to argue.
JULIAN SANDERS Dictators. They're so dangerously annoying.
Early Music Consort of London Director David Munrow. Important Early Music Revivalist! & recorder player, multi-instrumentalist! Harry
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It's very important to not only teach the playing of the instrument but also its history. I know a professional musician who once had two hours lessons at her teacher's house. The first was on general culture of the arts... without playing a single note... looking at books from famous painters etc... And in the second hour the actual lesson would take place... Isn't that a nice way to teach young musicians ?
This is kind of funny but also pretty informational.
Thanks a lot...
Hey, very interesting!!
Sarah, do you know why it is called a “recorder”? The name is curious to me, as I think of a recorder as something that records. Thank you for the videos.
From what read, the recorder is called by it's name because students said it was easy ti record music with them
Recorder It's a word from 1200, meaning "mimic the birds sound". Greetings from Brasil.
@@lorenzomarchini2073 this is wrong. Please read my answer above.
@@MoiraLAbbate it depends of course in what language the instrument is described. In the Netherlands, we call it the "block flute" which refers more directly to the part in the instrument defining the sound.
@@arno-luyendijk4798 Yes, I know. In German is the same. In French is called "flute à bec" (beak flute), in Portuguese, Spanish and Italian is "flauta doce" (sweet flute). But I was answering to the question about the name in English.
Thank you for that, so interesting. Where did the name recorder came from..why is it called - recorder?
Hi Sarah! Greetings from Florida. 2 quick questions:
1) Why don't we see Recorders in most Symphony Orchestras? But we always see the metal wind instruments.
2) Why are Recorders not made of metal? Why only wood and plastic?
Thanks for the info. Many people don't know that. What about the dream recorder? It sounds different Ja? Where does it fit in?
Hi teacher Sarah Jeffery !! I am starting the soprano recorder and I am really excited to become the best I can on it ! I do identify myself with wind instruments and I`m having a hard time trying to find recorder pieces so, if you or anyone else could tell me some I would appreciate it. I already know about Telemann fantasias thanks to you...
Nice video!
About the name "Recorder"
A Middle English Vocabulary By .
J.R.R. Tolkien The word Recorder may have had a French origin
Memory lessons for kids included music
He did not mention our recorder tho
Make a video on the elody flute
Play “The Lonely Shepherd” PLEASE!!!!
Great history of the recorder. Looking for vulture bones. Gotta be historically correct. :-)
You can look for cave bear bones :D
(it might be interesting to you): www.nms.si/en/collections/highlights/343-Neanderthal-flute
Oh Sarah, your almost as significant as the Buddha 🎅🏻✌️✌🏼✌🏾✌🏻
They found 76 recorders in the King's effects when Henry VIII died.
Hi) I couldn`t find how I can contact you, so I will leave my quastion here, hoping you will answer)
(sorry for my English)
Here you said that recorder has 8 holes for fingers and that is different from what I have. Mine has 10 holes for fingers and it`s actually is a kind of recorder that is studied and used in concerts in our country (Ukraine is a country where I’m from by the way). I tried to find answer myself, but failed. Is it a type of recorder or different instrument than? Here it’s called sopilka (pronunsiation can be checked in Wikipedia). I will be glad to hear your opinion on this.
And thank you for popularization of recorder) I`m glad that I found your channel, otherwise I don`t know if I would`ve find motivation to get back to it)
I remember being given one in primary school. I found it really hard to get a decent tone.
king henry the eight i am by hermans hermits should have used a recorder riff.
How can we have a discussion on the history of the making and playing of the recorder and recorder consorts, and have no mention of the Bassano family? Lol
Music und instruments experience a development boost due to the high status of music in the Bible. There Jubal is mentioned as the father of all who grasp a Khinor ‘lyre / violin / viola / string·instrument’ and an עוּגָֽב ['ugav] ‘flute / pipe / organ’, cf. Genesis 4:21. Jubal is antediluvian. His organ was a flute and his violin a simple harp, I assume. These are the two major families of music instruments. Jubal means creek, which is a Bach, and the musician named Bach certainly became a father to all who play string instruments (up to the harpischord and the piano) and to all wind players (up to the organ). The word ‘Ugav is moreover related to עָגַב ['agav] ‘to court’. Jubal was the brother of Jabal, who liked to stay at home-or as we say nowadays: in quarantine-and raise cattle. The flute is related to the shepherd, namely the (Greek) pan flute. Greece in Hebrew is written like a pan flute: יוון. That applies also to the יון ‘male dove’-in order that the circle to cooing and courting closes. Also I think that the ratio between the simplicity (transportability) of a music instrument and the possible complexity of its sound is best with the flute. Fun fact: As an acronym (of any order) the letters of עוגב ‘flute’ appear first in Genesis 12:17, where the name Sarai (who later became Sarah) is also mentioned.
"It was found in an old latrine."
Someone close to the musician clearly did not like the sound of that one.
Is there anime music for the recorder
Hi lol
Hi Sarah can you please play video of scooby dooby music piece of recorder ensemble
Be glad you didn't have to summarize Proust..........
Do you do Skype lessons for Recorder?
No! But I do do online courses- check my website sarahjeffery.com :)
How about steins gate. hacking to the gate, made in abyss,,,,Koi no uso.
40,000 years ago? Among the early extant duct flutes, from which the recorder is said to have its evolutionary roots, date back to only the Neolithic period, beginning about 10,200 B.C. This is according to some historians on the subject (of which admittedly I am not one).
Nonetheless, as you said (13:49) concerning the venerable recorder: “In my opinion it’s just going to keep going up and up and up. And something really important for that is you guys who are enthusiastic about the instrument who are learning it; and enjoying it; and that is what is important in the end.”
And with that we can all say amen! 😉 ♫
Wikipedia shows pictures of flutes found with Paleolithic artifacts. That's why the flute must be older than was thought.
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Why ae you always so morose?