Jakobi Meyers is symbolic of where Bill Belichick and the Patriots have gone wrong | Patriots Talk
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- Tom Curran explains why the decision to move on from Jakobi Meyers is symbolic of where Bill Belichick and the Patriots have gone wrong over the last few seasons. Then, Curran welcomes in Phil Perry to discuss where the team stands as they look to ‘start all over’ after their shutout loss against the Saints.
1:00- The decision to move on from Jakobi Meyers is symbolic of where the Patriots have gone wrong in recent seasons
5:50- Tom and Phil break down why Belichick’s inability, or unwillingness, to be able to identify a good offensive player at this point in his career is the root cause of the team’s problems
8:30- What does it actually mean to ‘start all over’ mid-way through the season?
16:50- What changes can realistically be made to save this season?
23:35- What should Robert Kraft do? How should the team handle the rest of the season and going forward beyond that?
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It would've meant a lot to the culture of the team to retain homegrown talent like Meyers.
It's a sign that, that is the culture. Don't anyone get comfortable. I'll move on my from my Best WR just like that. Guess what I'll do to you if you don't Step it Up?
LOL, still believe in the culture BS?
a player will stay only either big money or believing the team is a serious SB contender.
@@williamli6200 Meyers wanted to remain a patriot and the patriots gave Juju nearly the same amount of money as jakobi got in Vegas.
How about the fact that you need to ADD to your 26th ranked offense. Even if Juju was playing well, it's like treading water to replace a decent receiver with a decent receiver 🤦
@@amstel5468 juju is not a decent receiver right now. And nobody said the patriots didn't need to add more bonafide talent.
Jakobi was the comfort foot for Mac, and one of the only dependable receivers. He was also a fan favorite. In my opinion, Jakobi and Bourne had playing time cut/limited or traded due them speaking out in the media, in ways that Bellichick did not like.
@jimkozubek4026 They both told it like it was. Belichick, being a stickler, has never appreciated that. After he let Bernie Kosar go in Cleveland, the Browns fan base basically ran him out of town. The pressure on Kraft to fire him will be immense, especially if the Pats go 4-13 or worse.
💯 percent agree with you.
Bill has been cutting off his nose to spite his face for years- Malcolm Butler?? He is an average coach who had the greatest football qb in the games’ history. Good defensive coach- poor GM- always has been.
@@jamesdemaio265 Thanks, man! 🏈
I will always have some respect for Belichick, considering how we played during the early part of the Dynasty. But, it's time for him to go.
Let's talk about a 2nd for Mohammed Sanu!
There was a period where Sanu looked like the NE version of Cordarrelle Patterson.
Letting Jakobi walk still breaks my heart. He was developing into a clutch, Edelman-like player for the team. I don't believe the Patriots are 1-4 if he's still with the team.
The question you have to ask is would bill fire bill? The obvious answer is yes. Bill has cut players before the they sucked. If he was going by his own ideals he'd fire himself.
I am deeply grateful to BB for his job over the last 20 plus seasons. He has been great. Problematically, he is no longer great. The season is over (because personnel cannot be fixed). The Kraft’s need to make BB’S exit as graceful as possible, erect statues, put his name on a street, in the stadium and ask him to be a consultant/advisor. But the next coach has to be an offensive mind. It’s a tragedy that the staff will be dismantled, but it has to happen. One cannot keep everyone but BB and hope that some kind of BB hive mind remains. It will not. I recall the Celtics rebuilding twice after the Bill Russel/Auerbach era (Dave Cowens and etc/Bird and etc). It’s ok. It’s sports. The good times will return the faster the Patriots move. This is one hundred percent about the ownership now. The. Krafts have to do a great job. Simple enough.
You are grateful to the wrong person.
Bill Belichick cut Jakobi Meyers to hurt Mac Jones. It was his ultimate getback at mac for "Seeking outside counsil" Bill Belichick cut Meyers because he Knew how much mac liked, relied on, and needed him.
Crazy as that sounds,I agree 100%.It also had to do with the fact that Meyers kind of questioned what was going on last year.Bill’s a petty prick and him saying “we’re going to do what’s in the best interest of the team” is B.S. and has been B.S. for years
@pedrohippocaus8488 While hunter is close to mac as well he's not as you as jakobi and isn't a homegrown talent. His voice isn't as big because of that. Cutting Jakobi truly was mac last lifeline on team outside of David Andrews. Who's less close
Yikes! That means Bill sabotaged his own team to spite his starting QB?!?! Bill would never do that, would he?
Uh . . . yes he would. He benched Malcolm Butler, his best defensive back, during the SB against the Eagles where Tom threw for a record-breaking 500+ yards on offense and the Pats STILL lost the game because the defense (minus Butler) couldn’t stop the Eagle offense led by backup, Nick Foles. Bill benched Butler for a mysterious reason that only Bill knows, because Butler was healthy. Not to mention that a year or two prior, it was Butler’s last second interception of Russ Wilson that won the SB for the Pats over the Seahawks. Bill never said why, but it was obvious that he sabotaged the SB against the Eagles because Butler did or said something prior that Bill found to be disrespectful, and it infringed on Bill’s huge ego.
So yes, I agree. Bill ousted Jacoby and replaced him with a hobbled, aging WR in order to “get back at Mac.”
Not sure why Chris Hogan is being run down. He was an effective, complementary WR3 for 2016-19. He wasn't a world-beater, but he did his job.
He certainly produced; i think its just more that he still fits the category of unspectacular skill position players
Totally agreed! Hogan was good here.
I appreciate Tom Curran's honest reporting, insights and courage to say things the way it are! Of all the pundits in the NE area, Tom is the one I really pay attention to. Thanks Tom!
This is also on the owner Bob Kraft. Kraft is paying $20-25 million a year and has turned a blind eye to the results the last Five years? Just look at the drafts from 2014. The talent evaluation has been dismal. The list is long on misses in the draft and paying Nelson Agalhor and Jonnu Smith. They need a full blown five alarm complete Reset in Foxboro.
Jonuu Smith wasn't using right thats not on him but paying Nelson 9 fucking million too drop wide open passes is crazy though
He's hit on some guys in the last few years. I bet if you look at most teams drafts, there's a good chance alot of them missed the mark on their picks. The game may have passed BB by though at this point. You need a dynamic offense to win games
Let Cunningham prove himself
Myers was the best receiver last year and younger but Belichick let him go to pay juju the same money, shows how far the NFL has passed Belichick. Myers probably has more TDS than juju has catches this year. Belichick picks the players, coaches, trainers, down to the waterboys and this team sucks everywhere so sorry but that is on Belichick not Mac Jones. I never thought Mac would be a top 10 QB but Belichick is drafting long snappers, Holders and punters when the NFL is trying to do away with special teams. Brady was the ultimate eraser, look at his first year in Tampa, AB, gronk, lenord fornette, all came to Tampa to play with Brady and have a chance to win, same as it was in NE for years but Belichick took that for granted, took Brady's leadership for granted on top of his availability and on field presence . Brady was the ultimate eraser for Belichick and that's gone and Belichick is getting exposed. Put Mahomes on this team and they might, MIGHT go 8-9, 7-10. As great as Mahomes is he can't block, throw and catch every down. Let's not forget if Belichick has his way he wanted to go with Jimmy Glass in 2016/17 and thank god Kraft stepped in or pats and Belichick would have 5 rings instead of 6. He wanted to send gronk to Matt fricken Patricias lions and gronk basically said "trade me and I'll retire " yet gronk had the biggest catch in the SB against the rams and two years later had 2 tds in the Tampa SB, but Belichick was ready to trade him 3-4 years earlier. Belichick would of traded or released Belichick 3 years ago. Belichick is a fraud and the longer he is the head coach/GM the better Brady looks. How is coaches like Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, harbough, Pete Carroll and so on can be competitive with multiple QBs? Heck Tomlin has NEVER had a .500 season with broken down former good QBs and no body rookies at QB yet "genius" Belichick can't go .500 with a 1st rnd QB or a previous MVP in cam Newton. Who's to say how many sbs would of been won if Tomlin or harbough or Reid had Brady for 20 years? Cause Belichick has been basically pathetic WITHOUT Brady. And I don't want to hear about 11-5 Matt Cassel 15 years ago, that was a 16-0 team, a one eyed QB could.of won 9 games with that team. People also bring up Brady being a "game manager" in the first few superbowls, Brady threw for over 300 yards in 2of 3 of those superbowls and had game winning drives on all 3, that's not game manager. And the teddy bruschi, Willie mcginest, ty law, lawyer Milloy, troy brown even Adam venetari were all drafted by bill PARCELS not Belichick.
Yea I knew it the second it happened that we would regret letting Meyers go... Made ZERO sense to not pay him a few bucks for what he provided Mac and this offense. A safety net that Mac trusted and had really good chemistry with, when he didn't have much with anyone else.. Bills lost it. You could not sign a guy like that and throw in whoever you wanted with Brady and still compete.. Can't do that anymore and I'm not sure he understands how to build an offense at all.. This is a complete and utter dumpster fire and it all falls on Bill for me. Way way too much blame going to Mac when yes he's been bad, but he's been ruined by Bill and I'm really not sure what qb wouldn't look bad with this offense right now
Belichick always rode on Brady's coattails...
You can't have a run game without a solid o-line. Your QB can't function behind a bad o-line. Everything on offence is dependant on how well they perform. Pats o-line is shot.
Surprised you don’t recall that Meyers voiced implied criticism of Patricia. BB shipped him out because of that in my view. What does that mean? When BB won’t hold himself accountable to the same standards he demands from players, BB’s time is done.
Mac is horrible- Calling him a decent player is absurd.
Bill's throbbing ego cost the Pats a SB against the Eagles.
bill has 8 rings, why would he care what you say.
@@JP1989-l9h lol - I don't care. The point is that he has now become an embarrassment for Robert Kraft, and you better believe he cares about what Kraft says.
Are the rumors true? The rumor mill is going crazy. Bill is having a press conference tomorrow, it is anticipated that he will announce his retirement from coaching.
Mac sucked with Myers’s
No, Mac just sucks.
Hey Bill..you paid Ju Ju 33 million to do nothing when you could have paid Meyers...but no its the offense who gives a shit about Mac Jones/offense.
meyers isnt even that good
To be fair, Chris Hogan actually made some plays here
9 receptions for 180 yards and two scores in the 2016 AFC Championship game against the Steelers.
He had brick hands tho
I dont think hes saying Hogan didnt produce, just that he still fits the mold of unspectacular skill players that have been signed year after year
Hogan was a prime example of basically fringe roster player 5th string WR that Brady had to make due with and use as a No 2 WR it was amazing what he accomplished with the bad offenses he was surrounded by most of his life career in NE
Letting JAKOBI MEYERS go was a massive blunder!
As a titans fan thanks for Nick Folk he hasnt missed yet for the titans
Another great transaction. Kicker they didnt have to use a draft pick on, replaced by a kicker at the cost of a 4th rounder while only getting a 7th in return.
Similar to trading Shaq Mason, still under contract for a couple years, for a mid round pick only to use a premium first round pick on his replacement.
Bill got rid of myers and a few others because they spoke out on the offense last year every one knows it bill needs to go
Bill is like the Vince McMahon the Patriots. Just needs to go already and stop holding on to old school mentality. Kraft should at least strip GM/Personnel duties from him or just let Bill go altogether.
Jacobi Meyers was my favorite player on the Patriots. I live in NC and he played his college football not far from where I live at N.C. State. It was awesome how he came to the Patriots and made the team as a free agent. I hope Meyers has 11 catches, 2 TDs, and 200 yards this Sunday against his old team. He wanted to stay so bad. It would be poetic justice for him to have a great game this Sunday against the Patriots.
“Bill doesn’t know what a good offensive player looks like” - Example #1: Bill barges in to the Draft Room and tells the scouts that they’re taking N’Keal Harry instead of AJ Brown. A defining moment in the downfall of this team and TB12 leaving.
curran never coached or played football in his life, who cares what that idiot says.
Bill picks receivers like how i pick stocks - wrong every time!
The last six minutes or so of musing was very good - we need to remember the human element here. But at the same time, BB was ruthless with letting people go. If I was RKK, I'm pulling the plug now and giving Bill some ceremonial position, and if he won't take it, then he's gone. Belichick has failed the team, and it's time he truly took responsibility for that.
Mac=Bust learn how to Cope TC.
You have been wrong about Mac for three seasons- just confess Admit you were Dead Wrong
One player to watch as another miss is Josh Downs who Indy drafted right after we took the 23 year from Sacramento State Mapu.
He’s already showing signs to be a really solid receiver. Another miss.
"Pride comes before the fall."
Meyers was nice and was a good wr. They should've paid him instead of getting a "name" for a few million less that's not nearly as productive. I think BB thinks offense just happens and that defense is the only thing that matters. I'm starting to think that Tom Brady could've won 15 super bowls if he was drafted to SF or Philly or wherever.
Nothing will change until Bill is gone
Ya because you know it all right, go away.
UMASS could've Givin the Saints a better game....players are quitting on Belichick cu they just don't believe in Mac.....truth
Or as Belichick is fond of saying: Foxboro High School
Thoughtful comments from Tom. But Kraft needs to fix O-line (if Bill won't) before we can even evaluate the QB's. The O-line is where it starts for an Offense.
Imagine if Bill re-signed Meyers, signed Hoptkins, and signed some O-line talent and depth? We might be 3-2 or even 4-1 right now. Bill is way past his expiration date...
Bill took N'Keal Harry over AJ Brown and Deebo Samuel. If that isn't a perfect example of how bad he is at scouting, nothing is.
The biggest drop off with the Patriots from 2018 on is the incredible amount of mistakes the team has repeatedly made. It's even directly lost them games on multiple occasions. And what that tells me is Bill has lost the room. Players are part of a brotherhood. Watch the way they smile and hug after the game. They know the power they have as the reason the fans fill the seats and they aren't giving it to any old white guy who thinks he's got a special formula for winning. Bill's mistake was trying to prove he could win without stars, that he could coach his way to victory. The NFLPA (and that extends of course, to his own players) didn't look too kindly on that philosophy. And hence why suddenly a team that was know for two decades for their discipline, can't stop taking dumb penalties, can't stop blowing assignments, and has little to no toughness. The game in Buffalo where Mac through 3 passes was the end for Bill. His players were humiliated by his old school coaching. It was technically a win but it wasn't a victory. What it said to his players and the rest of the league is Bill thinks of himself as bigger than the talent that people pay to see. Who, in the current NFL, would buy into that system? The only reason it worked with Tom is because Brady was obsessed with legacy and was willing to do anything to win. Anything. And they did win early and often but without Brady, Belichick lacks the connection to the locker room he had with Tom and now he's a man alone. But he doesn't know it yet. Or he knows it and is stubbornly thinking he can smart his way out of it. But he can't. His goose is cooked. The only way to salvage his legacy is to go to another team with a QB that is both good and obsessive about wining. And that doesn't exist in the NFL anymore. Money is far more important than SB rings to the vast majority of the currant NFL players. And how are you going to get a big contract if your coach doesn't even let you throw the ball?
To be honest I never really liked the way Bill behaved. Let’s be honest he has always been a dick. He got a hall pass because he won. The fact is without Tom in his life he is sub 500. Bill is also not very self aware. A man needs to know his limitations. Bill the GM will get Bill the coach fired. No coach could get this team to win, none. That issue is all on Bill. I never understood letting Meyers go and letting Folk go. It’s as if he could careless about the offense. It was not the defense that was making NE a garbage team, it’s the offense. It’s going to take years of drafting to fix this issue. You can’t buy an NFL lineup.
couldn't have better guys representing our new England patriots..thanks for keeping it 100 @tom n phil
Not gonna talk about Mac calling his teammates Garbage-?
I'm not sure if that's true, or its his agent, trying to blame others for his performance. Mac doesn't say this in public.
I think he`ll be happier out on his boat after he gets fired. If I were Kraft, I would fire the Hoodie after this upcoming loss to the Raiders; and also inform all of the coaches that they are done at end of season. Clean house, start fresh. -We all have enough evidence that this needs to be done...
Malik Cunningham should start. He is what the offense needs right now. He can throw and run.
I'll sat this,,,if the Saints really tried,they could have put 100 pts on the Patriots,,,,same goes for the Cowboys....
I'm confused, was Jakobi asking for a really big contract? Most fans don't know who he is, I wouldn't think his contract wouldn't even be that big.
He basically got the same contract as Ju-Ju.😂
“Bill ruined Mac!”
Finally, you’ve seen the light.
The formula for finding a franchise QB has been pretty standard for the past 15 years. Draft a QB in the 1st Round. Surround him with a solid OL, good weapons, and a stable coaching structure. Then let him start for 1-2-3 years to see whether he can be “The Guy”.
If he is, then you’ll be paying him $35-45 MM/yr. If not, you get to start the process all over again
Not only did the Pats NOT help Mac, but they’ve seem to have put obstacles in his way.
The OL has gotten worse each year, to the point where they are now the worst OL in the League. Can’t run block or pass block.
Weapons?? What weapons? They didn’t sign any viable WRs, they let Jacobi Myers walk, and they are relying on late round picks for their offense.
Don’t get started on the coaching stability. Did anyone think that the Patricia-Judge experiment was ever going to work? How did that pass the WTF test at Patriot Place?
Forget about salvaging this season. IT’S OVER!
They are 1-4. They still have to play Buffalo twice, Kansas City, and have an away game in Miami. Those are 4 losses. The best they could do would be 9-8. Does anyone seriously believe that this team can win all their remaining games? And for what? A 7th place finish and first round loss??
We’re on to 2024. Time for a new GM who knows how to build a modern roster. I can’t see how any viable GM would want to come to NE while BB is still coaching. Most GMs want to pick their coach. If Kraft wants Mayo to succeed Bill, the GM would have to agree to that.
As far as Mac goes, that’s going to be very tricky. A new GM might be inclined to trade Mac for salary cap reasons. The advantage of a rookie QB is 4-years of friendly cap hits. That would end in 2024. A new GM might want to get a few more years of a rookie salary to have sufficient cap space to sign free agents.
It’s a mess and I just don’t see any road for success this year.
The future is all-important, not just this season. Therefore: 1) Kraft must hire a new GM immediately, no matter what BB says, so the new GM will have time to prepare for next year, 2) Malik is mobile -- the only Pats' QB who can deal with a porous o-line, 3) stop chastising Boutte and give him more experience, and 4) say farewell to BB at the end of the season -- at 71 his brain cells are decreasing -- and hire a flexible, dynamic, brainy coach who understands contemporary offense, for example, McDaniels if available.
This is a quote from 52 year old game ready receivers coach Troy brown who’s getting paid $20 mill over five years when asked about Devante Parker being pffs least open guy in the league 3 years and running. “I didn’t know there was a stat in the league that kept track of separation, so I don’t really understand that part of it. When I came into the league it was two things..Get open and catch the ball. So that’s all that really matters to me. If you can do those things, I don’t really keep up with the rest of it”…. How is nobody talking about this
He blew up and screwed up the O-Line which is probably worse. He screwed up the draft by thinking he could just keep trading back and then no one wanted to take his draft slot - and he takes Cole Strange 3 rounds too early. He got too cute by half. Philly and other good teams go get their man, and Belichick just wants to go back and get a system guy. Cast-off Strategy has failed miserably.
Jacobi is NOT symbolic of what is wrong with the Patriots. He's a highly-paid average No. 3 WR, and his stats reflect that. His numbers would likely be even worse if he were on the Patriots this season.
Jacobi is way better than Juju.
It’s absolutely symbolic of what’s going on here.Jakobi was Mac’s 3rd down blanket.They had chemistry.Bill trades Meyers and brings in JuJu with a bum knee for about the same price.
@@pedrohippocaus8488 If we had Jakobi at that price, we would be overpaying for an average 3rd WR. He's not winning games for us. The Raiders are stuck with that price for three years. It's NOT symbolic. We're just a bad team.
@@TheEliteFox So far, this year. Also, we should see what JuJu brings before we jump to conclusions about the great Jakpbi Myers and the 700 yards and 3 TDs that he could have brought to NE this year turning us into a playoff team. Honestly, they would have been better off applying that Jakobi Myers money toward a competent OT
@@storytellerbookseller5448
Not implying that Meyers would've been an All Pro. He wanted to be there, had the respect of the locker room, and wanted the same amount of $ that went to Juju.
He wouldn't have lit the world on fire, but it would've been a good step towards an offensive rebuild.
Why would pick a QB. Get the best offensive lineman in the draft.
Bill could have wrapped up a contract with Jacoby Meyers the year before his free agency. The biggest mystery to me, is Macolm Butler, he never took care of him and let him go. Even before benching him at the Philly Super Bowl and probably costing him a ring, he was antagonistic toward Butler for a long time,
Interesting that Bill was willing to lose a Super Bowl by benching Malcolm Butler. I don't know what he was trying to do. Punish Butler?
we still lying about a super bowl where only one eagles receiver scored a TD😂 i guess Butler was going to stop Blount from scoring, woild have stopped the Philly special, would have stopped clement on the wheel route, Ertz too😂
Butler was washed and has never looked competent even after that game
@@antcantcook960373 passing yards. Inability to get off the field on 3rd down.
@@antcantcook960butler was the best corner back they had. He would've most likely stopped some of the long completions.
@alberttibbets6567 yeah supposedly Butler had said something to Belichick's son like "the only reason you're a coach is because your dad put you there."
Yes. I'm tired of this guy. too many bad decisions.
Bill never got over that bonehead throwback vs the raiders to lose the game. Because in the dumb scale it might be #1 all time
Bill is a very average head coach and terrible general manager . Brady left and bill fails.
BB is petty af if letting Jakobi Meyer go is because of Mac Jones
Bill is the master of being cheap and getting the best value for his buck, and that is his job, and not to pay high valued players has to do with Kraft not bill. Why would Bill care about spending money that’s not his even though he has a budget?
He is not a master, it was Brady who turned those cheap receivers into top play makers.
its like bill destroyed the team on purpose
The fact that a qb like Mac needs so much “help” everywhere, in his 3rd year, when he’s the one that should be making others better, says a lot - he’s just not it.
He's a fine backup QB. He is not a starting QB in this league.
@@draftmagicagain1000 big facts
Tom Landry was fired by the Cowboys. Nothing is impossible.
They should play Malik and any other talented rookie they'd rather keep hidden Why not try that wr reagor. At this point they have nothing to lose. We've seen enough turn overs, dropped balls, fumbles. Bench everyone and put all new players in. I don't care how much money they make. Money doesn't seem to make a difference when it comes to results surprisingly. The more aggressive play your heart out players tend
to be the least payed or the who's that guy of the group playing. They probably have undiscovered talent just wasting away on the practise squad or wherever. That's what I would do if I were the head coach. Clearly the chemistry between all players on offense is not working.
Players must be sick of Mac giving the other team points.
It will be ok when josh comes back next year
Best podcast for Patriots news. Great points by Tom in regards to the offense
I'm not even joking when I say that I'd like to see either Grier or Cunningham play. At this point, we know Mac isn't the guy. Not for this team. He's good when he has all-world talent around him. His rookie year was an aberration due to a weak schedule.. The Patriots need a playmaker at QB; someone who is mobile because the OLine will not allow the QB to stay in the pocket. LONG season still to go. Might as well see what you have in the backups.
Tom you just nail everything that is wrong with Belichick!!
He definitely has let a few skilled players go and a few of them have gone on and helped teams get better and go deep into the playoffs over the years.
ya not really.
Belichick was on the Mcaffee show this weekend.... he was bragging about discovering Jakobi Meyers to the guys...... i was dying laughing. Good enough to brag about on the Mcaffee show a year later, but not good enough to keep for pretty much the same price as that bum Juju.
Phil and Tom = dynamic duo
Listen. Great coach probably the best of all time...Great on defense......Great at in season trades......Great at game specific and halftime adjustments......Great at not ratting on his players. ....Great at ruining young QBs. That all said......everything comes to and end. ROME. 49ERS 80S. COWBOYS 90S. And so does the 20 year run with the Patriots......his arrogance has caught up to his age....Great take on what he's bad at....offense. ........and has lucked into coaching 2.of the greatest players of all time....LT & Brady...and they made him look like.a.genius as did a.lot of Great players.for.coaches...Great run time.for.him to go
ignoring the QB problems just because you were Dead Wrong about this QB.
I feel,,being a Patriots fan since 1993,,,we in New England love Belichick but it seems that we aren't even competitive anymore and I feel that is what Patriots fans feel,,,its different if we are a competitive team,,,but we have seen enough of Mac it's time for a change
Please continue loving him and keeping him, a trash on offense.
the longer he stays, the more he will be exposed.
Thing is Mac isn't even the biggest problem..the entire team lacks playmakers on both sides of the ball..the practice of not paying players who perform well worked when Brady was there because he's so good he can make okay players look good..now it's the opposite...they need playmakers..and to get playmakers the front office and coach need to be willing to open their wallets and pay them
Should have paid that man
BB's arrogance is only eclipsed by his pretentiousness. When Patriots are dominating the NFL; it flies. Now that they're one of the worst 5 teams in the league, it's shitcanning time for RK & JK. Take back the team and start over 100%, all the fans know that the Kraft's care about their team. Imho BB should've been dropped after the Malcolm Butler benching that cost the team the Super Bowl. His same old ACT is tired. Thanks for the memories but it's over.
This offense blows because the Qb blows.
A QB is supposed to blow with that line and squad.
@@williamli6200 Excuse are reasons for Losers
@@coreydias9635 go watch the games in which Peyton, Rodgers and Mahomes struggled in. In all of them, they couldn't throw deep.
Belichick interviewed Debo Samuels and would not draft him. Regret? 4:00 4:00
He drafted Nkeal Harry 100% for his blocking. No one else saw what Bill saw in Jonnu Smith. The 3 subpar Interior OL was crazy. Mafi and Sidy Sow will be cut in two years. Jake Andrews is a backup.
They need to dump salaries and look for trades. They’ve got assets coming off the books next year in TE and WR that could draw interest from contenders (a Hockenson-lite deal for Henry for example, or a sixth for Bourne). Go all in on picks and get a new HC with some collegiate coaching experience who can help you win the draft (Harbaugh is a nut, but he wins and he may be a package deal with McCarthy that’s worth pursuing).
3:33 hey man Chris hogan did great for the pats and certainly was NOT a big money guy. Who did you want him to keep, Dorsett, Dobson, kenbrell Thompkins???
idc just just bench mac and go from there 👍⚡️⚡️😴zappetime...
You're working backwards. It's not about what you GOT it's about what you think you can GET. Juju was a stud at one point and as much as I loved Meyers, I think it was a fair bet for the same price. I was surprised they paid Juju what Meyers wanted and I was a sore about it at first but it really was a fair bet to make. This is one of the very, very few bets that Bill has made that didn't work out. 90% of the players that the media says "Bill has to pay this guy, he's the best!" end up going to another team and become a bust or retire after a couple years, just do the research on that. Even in this case it's totally unproven. Meyers played a single game, did well then got hurt and has had 3 games on and 2 games off in total. Juju has looked like crap in a crap offense with a crap o line and a crap QB.
JuJu has done nothing but regress in his career, while Jakobi has gotten better EVERY YEAR! Another catastrophe failure of player evaluation by the guy who’s made it clear to blame him!
If you say the QB stinks, then you have to say Rhamodre Stevenson stinks. You can’t pick and choose, if you absolve the O-Line.
Ju Ju Smith Shuster for Jakobi Meyers ? Key part of this mistake was, Mac Jones loved Meyers. How many high draft picks were used to help Mac and the offense. Bill has a bug up his ass for Mac.
Really, no clue why Bill would do this? Look at the quarterback draft class coming up. But Bill has also picked up some pretty good assets in free agency. Moss, Welker etc. He built some pretty good teams finding value where others didn’t see it. That is a must in a salary cap league
Forget Zappe at this point, how is Grier or Malik not in contention to earn the back up/spot starter role? About done of waffling between 2 QBs who clearly aren’t it. Swallow your pride and do something… embracing the tank is doing something in my book. Clean house… choose a path and ride it
If Kraft trusts Belifraud with the amount of cap space they have this coming off season and a draft that's QB and WR deep.....the its time to talk about Kraft stepping down because all BB will do is over pay schmucks and draft busts
3 starting guards let go in 2 years. And this is where we are. Then BB uses a first rounder to draft a guard? Then in 2023 more draft capital to acquire guards.
Meanwhile Mac’s protection sucks in his third year. Not a Mac fan, but this situation stunts his growth & evaluation.
BB got away with that when he had Dante. Now he doesn’t and he needed to adjust to a new plan. He put the team in a bad place with horrible depth on the OL. Starters that are always hurt and backups as starters who are unproven.
BB analogy.. He is a master of the slide rule who became a master wizard of the Calculator › but cannot comprehend the computer. So, the students are leaving the professor behind. But, he’s hanging around due to tenure.
Where are all the Mac stans from the summer? Crying and punching their Mac10 teddy bears 🤣🤣🤣
I agree and disagree. He is a great example of a hard working player with a great work ethic. He was useful here and was on an upward trajectory. He had good connection with Mac.
Now, he is having the production he is having with the Raiders because of their other weapons. Would he have the same production here ? Doubt it ….
The most important sign you want to see from the players is weekly improvement, growth, better stats week to week. Each player on the team should want that desire to prove star power but I don't see it. Ive seen it fro Gonzalez. Your an N FL player for God sake.
The psychological motive from Bill to continuously do this is that he thinks you(players on the team) are nothing without me, I'm the king here, and look at that guy, he will be elevated by me once he is on my team. Yeah, arrogance, the answer that everyone knows already digs the grave for patriots now. I don't know why players on patriots would play for a guy like this, who does not reward hard work, good production, takes all the credit in his own mind, and discard you like a piece of garbage once he thinks you show weakness, or in his mind "not worth the money".
Get Malik Cunningham involved.
The Fans are hiding now. To many coming at us with our misery.
Eight times in Belichick's life he got to enjoy the glory of winning the Superbowl. Nobody needs to shed any tears if he doesn't have the storybook ending to his coaching career. It's time to retire..
This season is more depressing than Schindler's List
Damn bruh it ain't that depressing out all movies you comparing our season too a movie based off Jews getting slaughtered and work like slaves?? Let relax man
Do we want the pats to try and turn things around or do we want the top 1-5 pick of the draft? I’m more on going for the draft and finding a way to get rid of the Schuster contract.
The point is if Bill is there next year the draft won't really matter cause he can't draft a offensive player to save his life
To borrow from Seinfeld, adjacent to refuse is refuse. Mac is right there next to everyone in that dumpster.
Patriots at their best, their ceiling is what they were against Eagles And Dolphins, That was their ceiling..They will be stuck as a tough mediocre team next 3 years
When are the press going to give it to Bill straight? “There was still plenty of time left in the game” “Do you think your fans, who pay a lot of money to watch your product, felt that way?”