Ngl it's kinda ok in the current metagame. Certainly S-Tier but not downright oppressive on teambuilding like prime Gambit or Dengo. It's a good mon that I think shouldn't be banned but wouldn't be surprised if it was. It shouldn't be the first thing to get banned though, that honor goes to Roaring Moon which is stupid busted.
Of course it was going to be insane when it came back. Dexoys was going to fall off in Ubers due to power creep which happened in gen 7. I honestly don't know how it would have done in gen 8. Let's see how it goes if it's get banned.
If you are going with a offensive set but you don't like life orbs' recoil you can also run expert belt to be able to hit everything for super effective even more
Not really sure what's even the logic for bringing it back tbh. Deo-S is one of those Pokémon that is kinda beyond power-creep, he'll do what he does regardless of how much broken shit there's in OU.
Its in the fact that its offenses are much worse compared to what they would be before. Theres more things that can outclass it offensively and more things that can take its hits.
Yea, it'll always be good at what it does. But that doesn't mean it's the best thing you can use for every situation, and the situations you will use it in still has alternatives that are viable by virtue of other utility moves or a better ability. It's really solid and great, but the tier has other mons like that
No way, a screens + hazards setter that outspeeds the entire metagame is a problem in a meta where a lot of the best Pokemon love screens support and there's a Pokemon that can deny almost all hazard removal. Who could have seen this coming? Seriously dropping Deoxys Speed into OU was an insane decision and I can't figure out how anyone thought it would be okay. It would be a crazy move at the best of times and is even more absurd in the gen 9 meta.
@@YunaLuni I mean it's basically *the* hazard setter and *the* screen setter and the only reason to use other rocks/spikes/screens setters are so Deoxys doesn't have to do all of it at once. It's over-centralising, is basically the perfect lead, and stifles variety, it has no place in OU.
Its honestly too predictable and fragile to really be reliable. It comes in first and what, dies instantly to U-Turn or Knock off? It doesn't hang around long enough to do more than like, 2 clicks. While it can sash to get around it, you then have no clay for screens, and it makes it even more predictable since it basically has to come in first or lose sash to hazards. It's honestly kinda overrated, its not like it demands very specific checks like Regieleki did, it just does things other mons in the tier do, but faster and weaker. Is it more annoying than like, clay Ninetails? No.
You kinda just argued the opposite of what you're trying to say, that's probably why he's fit in perfectly. Its predictable because that's what it does best, but you give up good abilities for other lead mons. Fast as fuck boi(tm), but it serves to push utility advantage as opposed to punching elephant round holes into teams like Gambit would
It outclasses the plethora of options with more defined weaknesses that were in the meta before. IMO this mon is super charging HO teams past the point of what’s okay.
my thoughts are i love it but I know in my heart the OU council will ban it but I think we should leave it in the meta and ban something else first ( gold or King) but the thing that will make it go is the same thing you where talking about to many sets. I remember mega-Lucario getting banned for something similar too many good sets so you don't know how to check it also my boy sect also got banned for this back in the day so if Deo-S goes it's because it was too flexible.
I love the fact that focus blast is so bad that it uses a mixed set just to avoid using it
well focus blast is 70% accurate 30% of the time
Ngl it's kinda ok in the current metagame. Certainly S-Tier but not downright oppressive on teambuilding like prime Gambit or Dengo. It's a good mon that I think shouldn't be banned but wouldn't be surprised if it was. It shouldn't be the first thing to get banned though, that honor goes to Roaring Moon which is stupid busted.
Of course it was going to be insane when it came back.
Dexoys was going to fall off in Ubers due to power creep which happened in gen 7. I honestly don't know how it would have done in gen 8.
Let's see how it goes if it's get banned.
Of Course the Deoxys Theorem is kicking it on Overdrive
I think its fine and I like it
It is fine, I think it’s overrated tbh
Deo Speed finally evolved from "generic lead that dies in 2/3 turns" tier
Someone else said this before but the OU council is run basically run by Gholdengos since we got another 2 hazard stacking mon dropping
If you are going with a offensive set but you don't like life orbs' recoil you can also run expert belt to be able to hit everything for super effective even more
Regileki but with an actual moveset might be problematic - OU council (probably)
Can’t teach it spikes though, what’s another good move replacement?
I like it. The ones who complain use to use Kingambit, Tusk, Gholdengo and Zapdos in the same team lol
Not really sure what's even the logic for bringing it back tbh. Deo-S is one of those Pokémon that is kinda beyond power-creep, he'll do what he does regardless of how much broken shit there's in OU.
Its in the fact that its offenses are much worse compared to what they would be before. Theres more things that can outclass it offensively and more things that can take its hits.
Yea, it'll always be good at what it does. But that doesn't mean it's the best thing you can use for every situation, and the situations you will use it in still has alternatives that are viable by virtue of other utility moves or a better ability. It's really solid and great, but the tier has other mons like that
Who could ever have have guessed that Deoxys would be a problem in OU?
Tbf this OU is basically ubers
I swear there’s a new PrObLeMaTiC Pokémon in gen 9 every few weeks
My guy do you even play the game, the dlc came out bringing loads of new pokemon in, it's to be expected
@@i_like_chomp6382 I’m just saying there’s been a few new bans like every month or so
New toy syndrome been the theme song this gen
The meta game has a whole lot of new toys. Shiny, new, high-tech, toys
Gholdengo still deserves ban
No way, a screens + hazards setter that outspeeds the entire metagame is a problem in a meta where a lot of the best Pokemon love screens support and there's a Pokemon that can deny almost all hazard removal. Who could have seen this coming?
Seriously dropping Deoxys Speed into OU was an insane decision and I can't figure out how anyone thought it would be okay. It would be a crazy move at the best of times and is even more absurd in the gen 9 meta.
Not broken
@@YunaLuni I mean it's basically *the* hazard setter and *the* screen setter and the only reason to use other rocks/spikes/screens setters are so Deoxys doesn't have to do all of it at once. It's over-centralising, is basically the perfect lead, and stifles variety, it has no place in OU.
Its honestly too predictable and fragile to really be reliable. It comes in first and what, dies instantly to U-Turn or Knock off? It doesn't hang around long enough to do more than like, 2 clicks. While it can sash to get around it, you then have no clay for screens, and it makes it even more predictable since it basically has to come in first or lose sash to hazards.
It's honestly kinda overrated, its not like it demands very specific checks like Regieleki did, it just does things other mons in the tier do, but faster and weaker. Is it more annoying than like, clay Ninetails? No.
You kinda just argued the opposite of what you're trying to say, that's probably why he's fit in perfectly. Its predictable because that's what it does best, but you give up good abilities for other lead mons. Fast as fuck boi(tm), but it serves to push utility advantage as opposed to punching elephant round holes into teams like Gambit would
haha deo-s go zoom
This pokemon got speed but no bulk i think its fine maybe belongs in uu or ou
Saying it'd be fine in UU is crazy 💀
bro wants UU to burn
No bulk?!
I said uu or ou bruh and yeah it's got no bulk alot of moves will 1hitko it
Mon is fine so far. Hazards and screens sets aren't more OP than what we had before and I have not seen offensive sets enough to comment on those.
It outclasses the plethora of options with more defined weaknesses that were in the meta before. IMO this mon is super charging HO teams past the point of what’s okay.
my thoughts are i love it but I know in my heart the OU council will ban it but I think we should leave it in the meta and ban something else first ( gold or King) but the thing that will make it go is the same thing you where talking about to many sets.
I remember mega-Lucario getting banned for something similar too many good sets so you don't know how to check it also my boy sect also got banned for this back in the day so if Deo-S goes it's because it was too flexible.
I think Roaring Moon is the only really problematic mon here in OU at the moment
Instead of banning regileki they just unbanned the second most Annoying Pokemon
BTW deoxys speed doesn’t get spikes in the actual game
This is insane
Is not that bad, jesus
I'm surprised that this thing even got out of the Ubers tier
This thing is mid ash lmao swampert better
Truly the take of all time