Good review. I think the mini is brilliantly designed. It does go through fuel the quickest, but for a lightweight backpacking stove with the primary use of boiling 16-24 oz of water rapidly, then moving on, it's spot on.
I can get a 3 foot flame from my Toaks Small Titanium stove very quickly...but for cooking you only need a small fire ..I primarily just boil water for freezer bag cooking.
Good review! I was thinking about the mini but seeing this I have ordered one. NOW the wait! I'm also from Michigan, nice to see we are about and about. Take care.
I use the Bush Buddy and am happy with it. There is a titanium pot that holds it so no wasted space in the pack. I put lighter and the strike stick inside along with some fire starter.
The Bushbuddy Mini has a diameter slightly smaller than some of the wider/larger cans of vegetables/beans etc, as such, you can just use the lid from those cans (the lid that requires a can opener to remove, not the peel-back kind of lid) and place it under the Bushbuddy Mini and that will prevent any scorching of the ground below... Either that or use some folded up aluminium foil underneath the stove as an ash tray...
I really like my BB mini. Works fantastic and with the less weight I can still add a toaks alcohol siphon stove and use the BB as a wind screen / pot stand and still be less weight than the others. Carry 2 oz for a day hike or a few more but still use twigs whenever to have limitless coffee. No fuel anxiety.
I have the Toaks and found that, as the wood burns down, the flame gets too far away from the bottom of the pot to effectively heat my pot. To solve that problem, simply found the top to an imported cookie tin which could function as a stove bottom, riveted it to the bottom of the top piece, cut a loading window opposite the original one, added more ventilation holes, and have a very light, functional wood burner. It doesn't gasify, but it doesn't matter that much when I just want to boil a quick pot of water. All wood burning stoves leave soot, so that's not an issue with me.
Might want to do a test - without the mini burning the board underneath it - that is added fuel... The other two will still need to have the ground cleared or allow them to burn what is below as well. While not as extensive if you have anything like pine needles they would go up quickly..
“Not a TH-cam-er...” casually has more subs than me... 😭 Great overview though! I’ve been thinking of grabbing one of these and I think you helped me narrow it down. Cheers!!
The lixada imitation of the toaks works better. It has different air holes you can also use it just using the two bottom parts and then its very close in design to the other two
I have the ordinal bushbuddy. Mine is the lighter weight version ultra at 5oz, they stopped selling that as version. You have to be careful with it but it works great. I think the original design is the best not burning the surface below. I use it at shelters on the floor all the time. Far worth it even at the original weight to carry an extra ounce for the way it works.
This wasn't a Fair demonstration of the Toaks small titanium stove ...I can get a 3 foot flame out of my Toaks...but for boiling water for freezer bag cooking...you only need a small fire...
You need to compare these two stoves with the BEST backpacking wood burning stove. The TRAIL DESIGNS TRI-TI and smaller SIDEWINDER titanium sheet stoves with their INFERNO inverted cone inserts are excellent GASSIFiER stoves. Plus these stoves san be fed larger pieces of wood while burning than the other two WITH a pot on top. You want a "collapsed view"? Look at these two stoves all rolled up in their Tyvek sleeve and stowed in their pot!
You missed one. Referring to the bush Buddy clone , the Solo Stove Lite. Watching you light them I know I would never have a Bishbuddy mini. The reason I like the Solo Stove and Bushbuddy is the included ash pan in them. It protects the ground from any hot ashes. There is another reason.....I know the manufacture does not recommend this but that ash pan is leak proof. 3/4 of a ounce or so of Alcohol in it and you have a emergency alcohol stove. I found a TH-cam video on that , Alternative fuel for a Bushbuddy. Yes , I tried that with mine and it does work. You have to be extra careful with the alcohol and don't spill any. The upside is I don't have to take a separate alcohol stove to use in it.
I think you still need to use fire safety regardless of ashpan or not. Because of that I prefer the mini due to it being smaller and lighter while nesting in a pot like the MSR titan. The burn chamber is exactly the same. Having said that, I kinda want the original too.
You should have used the Toaks Titanium small wood burning stove...you have wood above the secondary burning holes in the Toaks stove...the Toaks is a wood gasifier stove...but you have the wood in your Toaks above these holes... Great. Video ...thank for making it....please forgive me my biased was showing. I'm a Toaks kind of guy...the small works great also...it's about the size of a coffee cup.
Absolutely right about loading these stoves above the secondary holes, I have both the large and small Toaks titanium stoves and they work amazing, once you figure out their limits of wood capacity!
@@lifthearth but complaining is so much easier than simple,cost free solutions that you can experiment or play with. fun too. in fact, I'm going to bellow off my porch now
One reason is weather conditions. If you are really out and about depending on these , in many cases bottom up lighting is the way to get a fire going.
I got the cheap Chinese clone off ebay... been using it for 4 years now. No regrets and works just the same! BTW: They are designed to be lit from the top.
9:42 so now I see you should have 5 stoves, so a meaningful comparison can be made where 3 competative stoves can ALL be loaded and lit bottom to top. Rather obviously top down fires are fast starts and then slow burns. LET'S HAVE A MEANINGFUL COMPARISON!!! THANK YOU!!! (SEE IF THIS COMMENT IS ALLOWED TO SURVIVE!!!)
The missing bottom of the mini surely used the wood it was positioned upon as fuel, thereby obfuscating the results. A nice demonstrations regardless. I do not like the open bottom of the mini, possibly a manufacturing decision as opposed to it's overall functionality. Cheers!
Yes and I would say for only a few ounces difference the regular Bushbuddy removes the draw backs to the bottom opening on the mini (scorching the ground, dirt getting up inside, etc…). Thanks for your comment.
@@lifthearth take a small stepbit to the bottom of the toaks burn chamber. Makes a huge difference in performance. Stock the holes are just too small and get clogged up way too easily. I carry a small piece of aluminum about the size of the bottom of my pot to put under the stove to reflect heat away and keep any small embers from causing problems.
( A PALAVRA DE DEUS ) ( Efésios. 2:8-10 ) "Porque pela graça sois salvos, por meio da fé; e isto não vem de vós, é dom de Deus. Não vem das obras, para que ninguém se glorie; porque somos feitura sua, criados em Cristo Jesus para as boas obras, as quais Deus preparou para que andássemos nelas." Se eu perguntar a Deus se serei salvo por suas obras, Deus responderá com as palavras do versículo acima que não, "porque pela graça sois salvos". Se eu quiser acreditar que minha fidelidade tenha algo a ver com minha salvação, Deus dirá que é "por meio da fé". Então, enquanto eu estiver vasculhando em todos os bolsos de meu ser para ver se encontro algo que possa dar ou fazer para Deus a fim de garantir minha salvação, ele me diz: "Isto não vem de vós", e completa dizendo que é um "dom", ou dádiva. Então, se eu ainda insistir e perguntar: "Será que não tem alguma obra que eu possa fazer, Senhor?", sua resposta será que a salvação "não vem das obras, para que ninguém se glorie". Então pergunto em que parte do processo as obras aparecem e ele me diz que é depois de eu já ter sido salvo, já que fui novamente "criado em Cristo Jesus para as boas obras" que ele preparou para eu andar nelas. E mesmo que eu as cumpra, no final para quem irá a glória? Para Deus. ( Romanos. 10:9-10,13 ) "Porque, se com a tua boca confessares a Jesus como Senhor, e em teu coração creres que Deus o ressuscitou dentre os mortos, será salvo; pois é com o coração que se crê para a justiça, e com a boca se faz confissão para a salvação. Porque: Todo aquele que invocar o nome do Senhor será salvo." ( João. 14:6 ) "Respondeu-lhe Jesus: Eu sou o caminho, e a verdade, e a vida; ninguém vem ao Pai, senão por mim." ( Atos. 16:31 ) "Crê no Senhor Jesus e serás salvo, tu e tua casa."
@@AaronVets Really? Maybe you should read up on the actual events that lead up to Solo Stove’s founding. Bush buddy guy pulled a 5th Beatle or 3rd Apple founder move.
Good review. I think the mini is brilliantly designed. It does go through fuel the quickest, but for a lightweight backpacking stove with the primary use of boiling 16-24 oz of water rapidly, then moving on, it's spot on.
I agree. For boiling water and moving on, it's a good stove to have. With or without a bottom.
I can get a 3 foot flame from my Toaks Small Titanium stove very quickly...but for cooking you only need a small fire
..I primarily just boil water for freezer bag cooking.
Good review! I was thinking about the mini but seeing this I have ordered one. NOW the wait! I'm also from Michigan, nice to see we are about and about. Take care.
I use the Bush Buddy and am happy with it. There is a titanium pot that holds it so no wasted space in the pack. I put lighter and the strike stick inside along with some fire starter.
The Bushbuddy Mini has a diameter slightly smaller than some of the wider/larger cans of vegetables/beans etc, as such, you can just use the lid from those cans (the lid that requires a can opener to remove, not the peel-back kind of lid) and place it under the Bushbuddy Mini and that will prevent any scorching of the ground below... Either that or use some folded up aluminium foil underneath the stove as an ash tray...
I really like my BB mini. Works fantastic and with the less weight I can still add a toaks alcohol siphon stove and use the BB as a wind screen / pot stand and still be less weight than the others. Carry 2 oz for a day hike or a few more but still use twigs whenever to have limitless coffee. No fuel anxiety.
The Toaks alchy stove is my go-to right now and I am waiting on a BB mini right now. It's really good to hear they can work together when needed!
Good show! Thanks for the video; I think I will go for the Bushbuddy Mini.
Great video
I have the Toaks and found that, as the wood burns down, the flame gets too far away from the bottom of the pot to effectively heat my pot. To solve that problem, simply found the top to an imported cookie tin which could function as a stove bottom, riveted it to the bottom of the top piece, cut a loading window opposite the original one, added more ventilation holes, and have a very light, functional wood burner. It doesn't gasify, but it doesn't matter that much when I just want to boil a quick pot of water. All wood burning stoves leave soot, so that's not an issue with me.
Great Review,,,, Iam currently waiting on my Bush Buddy,,, Another Fantastic wood stove is the Firebox G2 titanium.
Thanks for the tip!
Might want to do a test - without the mini burning the board underneath it - that is added fuel... The other two will still need to have the ground cleared or allow them to burn what is below as well. While not as extensive if you have anything like pine needles they would go up quickly..
Neat stove I'd love to add one to my collection but sadly they arnt available in my country
“Not a TH-cam-er...” casually has more subs than me... 😭
Great overview though! I’ve been thinking of grabbing one of these and I think you helped me narrow it down. Cheers!!
lol, I’m pretty sure all my subscribers come from family…. Thanks for the kind comments. Let me know what you think of yours when you “fire it up”.
Bonjour so which one is the best ?
Bushbuddy by a long shot.
The lixada imitation of the toaks works better. It has different air holes
you can also use it just using the two bottom parts and then its very close in design to the other two
Looks like my solo cooker
Just bought a BB mini. Waiting 12-13 weeks for delivery!
The wait is painful… 😃
Where did you find yours. Can’t seem to find them online.
@@bigriceburner , bushbuddystove.com/
Just for curiosity how much $$$$$
$100 US for regular Bushbuddy last I purchased.
Thank you SOOOO much for showing dimensions holy shit
Hey Thanks for another great video but nevertheless Im a TOAKS man all the way
I have the ordinal bushbuddy. Mine is the lighter weight version ultra at 5oz, they stopped selling that as version. You have to be careful with it but it works great. I think the original design is the best not burning the surface below. I use it at shelters on the floor all the time. Far worth it even at the original weight to carry an extra ounce for the way it works.
I also have the original BB and agree 100% with your comments
It's my understanding that gasifier stoves are supposed to be lit from the top.
Whick one of those do you like best?
Haven’t fully field tested the Bush Buddy Mini but it may be my favorite performer for the weight so far.
The Tokes would be better for simmering and longer cook times for cooking things like beans.
This wasn't a Fair demonstration of the Toaks small titanium stove ...I can get a 3 foot flame out of my Toaks...but for boiling water for freezer bag cooking...you only need a small fire...
You need to compare these two stoves with the BEST backpacking wood burning stove. The TRAIL DESIGNS TRI-TI and smaller SIDEWINDER titanium sheet stoves with their INFERNO inverted cone inserts are excellent GASSIFiER stoves. Plus these stoves san be fed larger pieces of wood while burning than the other two WITH a pot on top.
You want a "collapsed view"? Look at these two stoves all rolled up in their Tyvek sleeve and stowed in their pot!
You missed one. Referring to the bush Buddy clone , the Solo Stove Lite. Watching you light them I know I would never have a Bishbuddy mini. The reason I like the Solo Stove and Bushbuddy is the included ash pan in them. It protects the ground from any hot ashes. There is another reason.....I know the manufacture does not recommend this but that ash pan is leak proof. 3/4 of a ounce or so of Alcohol in it and you have a emergency alcohol stove. I found a TH-cam video on that , Alternative fuel for a Bushbuddy. Yes , I tried that with mine and it does work. You have to be extra careful with the alcohol and don't spill any. The upside is I don't have to take a separate alcohol stove to use in it.
Thanks for the Alcohol tip. Also, I believe the Solo Stove is heavier than the Bushbuddy. Is that correct?
@@lifthearth ..... Yes , the Bush Buddy ( Original ) is 6.4 oz. The Solo Stove ( Lite ) is 9 oz.
The Solo is a Knockoff of the bushbuddy...
I think you still need to use fire safety regardless of ashpan or not. Because of that I prefer the mini due to it being smaller and lighter while nesting in a pot like the MSR titan. The burn chamber is exactly the same. Having said that, I kinda want the original too.
The wood underneath is on 🔥
You should have used the Toaks Titanium small wood burning stove...you have wood above the secondary burning holes in the Toaks stove...the Toaks is a wood gasifier stove...but you have the wood in your Toaks above these holes...
Great. Video
...thank for making it....please forgive me my biased was showing. I'm a Toaks kind of guy...the small works great also...it's about the size of a coffee cup.
Absolutely right about loading these stoves above the secondary holes, I have both the large and small Toaks titanium stoves and they work amazing, once you figure out their limits of wood capacity!
Unfortunately the lack of a bottom is why I won't get the mini. Why they did that is beyond me.
A cleared ground and small piece of foil works well.
@@lifthearth but complaining is so much easier than simple,cost free solutions that you can experiment or play with. fun too. in fact, I'm going to bellow off my porch now
One reason is weather conditions. If you are really out and about depending on these , in many cases bottom up lighting is the way to get a fire going.
I got the cheap Chinese clone off ebay... been using it for 4 years now. No regrets and works just the same! BTW: They are designed to be lit from the top.
Dad Burnit!
Correction: danburnit!
The mini should come with an ash pan or something.
9:42 so now I see you should have 5 stoves, so a meaningful comparison can be made where 3 competative stoves can ALL be loaded and lit bottom to top. Rather obviously top down fires are fast starts and then slow burns. LET'S HAVE A MEANINGFUL COMPARISON!!! THANK YOU!!! (SEE IF THIS COMMENT IS ALLOWED TO SURVIVE!!!)
That Bushbuddy Mini looks like a forest fire waiting to happen.
You’re not kidding. Proceed with great caution.
If you don't clear the ground and use a small foil barrier, possibly. I think this risk is easily mitigated.
The missing bottom of the mini surely used the wood it was positioned upon as fuel, thereby obfuscating the results.
A nice demonstrations regardless.
I do not like the open bottom of the mini, possibly a manufacturing decision as opposed to it's overall functionality.
Cheers!
Yes and I would say for only a few ounces difference the regular Bushbuddy removes the draw backs to the bottom opening on the mini (scorching the ground, dirt getting up inside, etc…). Thanks for your comment.
What if you just put it on a log and when ur done remove it and add more wood the the already burning log for a camp fire
I like the toaks large version.The small version like you have sucks! It doesn't have enough air flow to cook properly! The large works much better.
That would make sense. I’ve wanted to try one of those.
@@lifthearth
Well, you should try it then. You will like it much better than the small toaks.
@@lifthearth take a small stepbit to the bottom of the toaks burn chamber. Makes a huge difference in performance. Stock the holes are just too small and get clogged up way too easily. I carry a small piece of aluminum about the size of the bottom of my pot to put under the stove to reflect heat away and keep any small embers from causing problems.
The one on the left is the slowest
( A PALAVRA DE DEUS )
( Efésios. 2:8-10 )
"Porque pela graça sois salvos, por meio da fé; e isto não vem de vós, é dom de Deus. Não vem das obras, para que ninguém se glorie; porque somos feitura sua, criados em Cristo Jesus para as boas obras, as quais Deus preparou para que andássemos nelas."
Se eu perguntar a Deus se serei salvo por suas obras, Deus responderá com as palavras do versículo acima que não, "porque pela graça sois salvos". Se eu quiser acreditar que minha fidelidade tenha algo a ver com minha salvação, Deus dirá que é "por meio da fé". Então, enquanto eu estiver vasculhando em todos os bolsos de meu ser para ver se encontro algo que possa dar ou fazer para Deus a fim de garantir minha salvação, ele me diz: "Isto não vem de vós", e completa dizendo que é um "dom", ou dádiva.
Então, se eu ainda insistir e perguntar: "Será que não tem alguma obra que eu possa fazer, Senhor?", sua resposta será que a salvação "não vem das obras, para que ninguém se glorie". Então pergunto em que parte do processo as obras aparecem e ele me diz que é depois de eu já ter sido salvo, já que fui novamente "criado em Cristo Jesus para as boas obras" que ele preparou para eu andar nelas. E mesmo que eu as cumpra, no final para quem irá a glória? Para Deus.
( Romanos. 10:9-10,13 )
"Porque, se com a tua boca confessares a Jesus como Senhor, e em teu coração creres que Deus o ressuscitou dentre os mortos, será salvo;
pois é com o coração que se crê para a justiça, e com a boca se faz confissão para a salvação.
Porque: Todo aquele que invocar o nome do Senhor será salvo."
( João. 14:6 )
"Respondeu-lhe Jesus: Eu sou o caminho, e a verdade, e a vida; ninguém vem ao Pai, senão por mim."
( Atos. 16:31 )
"Crê no Senhor Jesus e serás salvo, tu e tua casa."
toaks almost works like a wood burning stove, rather than a wood gasification stove
Solo Stove
Knockoff garbage.
@@AaronVets Really? Maybe you should read up on the actual events that lead up to Solo Stove’s founding. Bush buddy guy pulled a 5th Beatle or 3rd Apple founder move.
Yeah guy don’t do these anymore
I’m planning another video today. Will place some gasoline under the Toaks. Think that will help?