Not a bad combo to use.. i like it because it conserves ammo for special and heavy while using with super .. you will be left with a lot of special and some heavy after super is done Demolitionist doesn’t proc as fast as it should but it still isn’t that bad .. was only using one arc surge for rocket and could’ve done more damage if it was a Solar Rocket because of the Activity Surges
Mathematically, what your doing to add damage with witherhoard and hothead can be done and done better by using tractor cannon. You got 1.8m damage out of your rotation before adding in witherhoard/hothead and 2.45m after. That’s about a 26% damage increase. You already have a weaken so tractor would make up 15%. The remaining 11% could be easily made up by jolting with a lstorm grenade and kinetic tremors from supremacy. (Numbers from Carl testing) KT on supremacy procs after 2 crits giving you 3 shockwaves and a total of ~88k damage. This is already better than the ~55k damage witherhoard does in a fraction of the time with only a very small change to the time off the main damage dealer of the rotation (Song of Flame). Storm grenades do more total damage than vortex at base with jolt setting it well ahead when vortex can’t take advantage of the weaken (tractor is already overriding the weapon and applies to both) Realistically this should give you higher damage and DPS while also skyrocketing damage in a team damage setting. This level of ease to applying that number of DOT effects (poison, scorch, KT, jolt, weaken) by one player is unheard of.
All do respect you’re talking about doing damage in a different scenario with a team and stuff i could do a different strategy like what you are talking about but that’s not what i wanted to showcase here .. i really just wanted to showcase damage as a solo player an easy rotation for the average casual player.. i could’ve pumped out more damage if i wanted to but obviously i didn’t use my rotations correctly and was using a rocket that wasn’t correct with the surges not only that but i shot my witherhoard only once in my rotation .. really just wanted to show some base damage Im not saying you are wrong just wanted to do something different here instead of doing all these weapon/class swaps mid fight
@@tthieve I gotcha. What I was getting at too is tractor can be just as effective with some more benefits. Just a change of grenade and a little more skill to hit those crits
Yea i understand what you’re saying .. hitting those crits does take a bit of skill lol..also i don’t have supremacy crafted yet:/ Still appreciate the advice im always willing to try new strats👍
I guess. new rotation for the tractor guy assuming no one else is setting up ignitions or jolts cause the dmg wont overlap and its just a loss in a team setting. Other wise solo dps is still just going to be better running something other than tractor cause the ceiling for this rotation is pretty high.
this week is arc surge so Hothead might be decent but during solar surge Dragons Breath is deffo better. I really dislike the new -5/surge system tho 😐
@@elitesnake636 same way as in the video. Demolitionist, dragon breath fuel from more ignitions, reload on freeze/suppress fragment if using prismatic. Or sealed ahamkara. That would work. Don't know if apotheosis benefits persist after a swap for that last idea.
You can still weaken and unravel or sever whatever the melee is doing lol dragons breath and maybe a fusion or a sniper if the boss has a good crit or is too far once your super wears off ( given that's a pretty long damage phase) I just don't know if the dragons breath x5 spam is more DMG than the explosive light .
@@Beast_m0de1206 From what I've seen, D-Breath has comparable damage numbers when combined with a weaken nade or even jolt, and it seems a lot comfier to use than the demo rocket combo.
@@thekungachunga4578demo has a cooldown and can only proc so often so using Dragons Breath would allow you to use a demo weapon in another slot without slowing the rhythm
@@stoicreaper7150well can you put on 2 exotics at once? Are they in seperate collums for the class item? Or is dawn chorus even ON the class item at all?
@@McJizzleBerries Yeah I know. That's why i asked because I wasn't sure and haven't seen a dedicated video on the interaction. I mean... we're talking about Bungie, D2, and things interacting as they should or intended. They never line up.
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I love my weakend grenades 😊 especially on a Friday
I’m gonna now try this for my solo runs now, thank you thieve!!! :)
Not a bad combo to use.. i like it because it conserves ammo for special and heavy while using with super .. you will be left with a lot of special and some heavy after super is done
Demolitionist doesn’t proc as fast as it should but it still isn’t that bad ..
was only using one arc surge for rocket and could’ve done more damage if it was a Solar Rocket because of the Activity Surges
Have you tried a version of the rotation with Dragons Breath? If so what did u think of it?
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Mathematically, what your doing to add damage with witherhoard and hothead can be done and done better by using tractor cannon. You got 1.8m damage out of your rotation before adding in witherhoard/hothead and 2.45m after.
That’s about a 26% damage increase. You already have a weaken so tractor would make up 15%. The remaining 11% could be easily made up by jolting with a lstorm grenade and kinetic tremors from supremacy.
(Numbers from Carl testing)
KT on supremacy procs after 2 crits giving you 3 shockwaves and a total of ~88k damage. This is already better than the ~55k damage witherhoard does in a fraction of the time with only a very small change to the time off the main damage dealer of the rotation (Song of Flame). Storm grenades do more total damage than vortex at base with jolt setting it well ahead when vortex can’t take advantage of the weaken (tractor is already overriding the weapon and applies to both)
Realistically this should give you higher damage and DPS while also skyrocketing damage in a team damage setting. This level of ease to applying that number of DOT effects (poison, scorch, KT, jolt, weaken) by one player is unheard of.
All do respect you’re talking about doing damage in a different scenario with a team and stuff i could do a different strategy like what you are talking about but that’s not what i wanted to showcase here .. i really just wanted to showcase damage as a solo player an easy rotation for the average casual player..
i could’ve pumped out more damage if i wanted to but obviously i didn’t use my rotations correctly and was using a rocket that wasn’t correct with the surges not only that but i shot my witherhoard only once in my rotation .. really just wanted to show some base damage
Im not saying you are wrong just wanted to do something different here instead of doing all these weapon/class swaps mid fight
@@tthieve I gotcha. What I was getting at too is tractor can be just as effective with some more benefits. Just a change of grenade and a little more skill to hit those crits
Yea i understand what you’re saying .. hitting those crits does take a bit of skill lol..also i don’t have supremacy crafted yet:/
Still appreciate the advice im always willing to try new strats👍
I guess. new rotation for the tractor guy assuming no one else is setting up ignitions or jolts cause the dmg wont overlap and its just a loss in a team setting. Other wise solo dps is still just going to be better running something other than tractor cause the ceiling for this rotation is pretty high.
If your in a team why not have options
not the boiled one helmet 😭💀
Best new helm
I thought fallen sunstar was the boiled one helmet lol
Nice video thx 👍
throw in salvagers salvo with demo when hothead demo is on CD.
Rock>snap>nade>swap>salv>snap>nade>swap>rock repeat
Even better would be demo/expl light apex + the new wild style with graverobber + vorpal since graverobber procs on powered melee hits now
Don't think it would work out unfortunately. I'm pretty sure Demo has a cooldown that would prevent it from activating that much
@@BlazingInferno00Yeah Demo do have downtime for a few seconds
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Wow that’s pretty solid damage. So I wonder when Titans are gonna get nerfed again…
the "season 20 ahh rotation"😭
Kfc and kool aid smell around here
@@grim8706what??
@@asnd..8349 you’re young if you don’t understand that. Old ass joke.
@grim8706 he's not saying "what" because he doesn't get it, it's because being blatantly racist doesn't count as a joke
@@dysmaruuramsyd3233 racist? Maybe. truth? Almost always in every case.
this week is arc surge so Hothead might be decent but during solar surge Dragons Breath is deffo better.
I really dislike the new -5/surge system tho 😐
Yeah dragons breath is a good one too for heavy.. yea i feel you on that -5 is pretty bad i agree it’s better if they change it back to how it was
use a solar rocket, the super buff kinetic and solar weapons
Just makes them apply scorch
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Cant wait for hunters to complain that song of flame is too good and it needs nerfing
Why do none of these damage tests feature hellion? It’s literal free damage and scorch for ignition stacking. You even cast your riff so I’m confused
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why is he so ears
Or I just use my crux with envious/bipod with swap to explosive and I get 6 rockets to shoot.
1.8mil from a super alone is absolutely wild. Everyone is freaking out about still hunt celestial hunters but this is something else
That takes a second with 6 special ammo. This alone takes 25 seconds and can only be done once
There’s a difference between burst and sustained. Learn it. (Burst is better in 99% of encounters in this game)
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Star eater apotheosis, base abilities, super, refunded abilities, transcend and shoot.
Still looking for this roll😢😅
using apothesis grenades / melee after super is kind of trolling, you should be using heavy ammo
@@elitesnake636 song of flame with apotheosis deals over 1.5 mil
The abilities in this case are for reloading your heavy for more dumping
@@imkindatwisted how are you reloading your heavy by using abilities?
@@elitesnake636 same way as in the video. Demolitionist, dragon breath fuel from more ignitions, reload on freeze/suppress fragment if using prismatic.
Or sealed ahamkara. That would work. Don't know if apotheosis benefits persist after a swap for that last idea.
The amount of ignitions you're procing dragons breath might be the play and it just auto reloads itself at x5 fuel
You can still weaken and unravel or sever whatever the melee is doing lol dragons breath and maybe a fusion or a sniper if the boss has a good crit or is too far once your super wears off ( given that's a pretty long damage phase) I just don't know if the dragons breath x5 spam is more DMG than the explosive light .
@@Beast_m0de1206 From what I've seen, D-Breath has comparable damage numbers when combined with a weaken nade or even jolt, and it seems a lot comfier to use than the demo rocket combo.
@@thekungachunga4578demo has a cooldown and can only proc so often so using Dragons Breath would allow you to use a demo weapon in another slot without slowing the rhythm
Would that one hive warlock exotic help?
That’s what im using👍
My exotic class item has both
spirit of star eater and spirit of necrotic
Why does no one switch to Dawn chorus for test?
Because Star Eaters is infinitely better??
@@BennyCocoPoplmao Fr. Dawn chorus is shit for this
Dawn Chorus only adds like a extra 20k damage😂. He has on Star Eater which is just 10x better
@@chrisbarnesbarnes8332 I mean don't it stack with star eaters?
@@stoicreaper7150well can you put on 2 exotics at once? Are they in seperate collums for the class item? Or is dawn chorus even ON the class item at all?
Why am I playing titan again?
Cuz that's and skill issue, so you'll have ez pvp kills spamming that arm charge 😂
@@mauricioalpizarrodriguez9078 PvP puts me to sleep.
Star eaters buffs song of flame??
Star eaters buffs all damaging supers
@@iamhung9384 It's throwing out abilities not... Supers.
@@xRagingxDemonxIt’s still a super, it even increases the ignition damage from your abilities when you activate it. Pretty damn good
@@McJizzleBerries Yeah I know. That's why i asked because I wasn't sure and haven't seen a dedicated video on the interaction.
I mean... we're talking about Bungie, D2, and things interacting as they should or intended. They never line up.
@@xRagingxDemonx I get that, definitely worth going for, 70% more damage at 6 stacks of star eaters is just too good
Bns is just better apex also rolls demo.
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