In case anyone's curious, the youtuber Aegis did some damage testing and found that an Ergo Sum with The Perfect Fifth (polaris lance) and Caster Frame, plus the transcendence buff, has greater DPS than any HEAVY sword in the game currently. The only caveat is that it might not be possible to proc the ignitions as a team at a scaling rate, so multiple people using it might decrease overall DPS, but still worth checking out Aegis' video for a deep dive.
@11:14 enemies that get killed by the arc chain lightning also triggers the artifact mod giving you back ammo without having to spend anymore ammo. So with my waveframe version I use a heavy attack, then the free light attack to close the gap and the arc conductor cleans up any remaining adds around, (amplified running around will quickly clean up the whole room) and get back a ton of ammo.
I am not gonna use the artifact mod because I want the sword to feel and be used like how it’s supposed to be, I wanna have stuff that is possible to do without artifact mods, so I ain’t using it
For those not in the know, Ergo sum with caster frame and perfect 5th is as of right now the highest dps sword in the game, jumping past falling and bequest by a sizeable margin.
Surrounded rolls on falling and bequest are able to just barely eek out slightly higher dps… but surrounded is unreliable in boss dps scenarios, making Caster Polaris Ergo Sun better overall.
I love Ergo so much. After about 30 farmed up my favorite rolls are: Ticcu's - Wave Frame: All aerial sword attacks are qualified as light attacks so the enemy is both Primed and Detonated as part of the same heavy attack chain. Riskrunner - Wave Frame: If the group of adds doesnt die to the wave of Arc Light falling into the center of them doing your best Tesla Coil impression will probably do the trick. Telesto - Caster Frame: All telesto bolts spawn once the disc hits a target letting you spawn them on melee targets or that thing over there that you want dead. Polaris - Vortex: Build up those hits nice and quick to reach that ignition faster.
Telesto bolts number is dependent on the frame, vortex 10, aggressive/wavesword 8, caster 6, and so on. Vortex spread everywhere unless you use it on up close to something beefy, then all 10 will hit the boss. Wave sword frame also does damage on the uppercut, so the damage with that added gets up closer to vortex/caster heavy damage. Good rolls to try: Arc conductor/wavesword/caster - add clear Unplanned rep/vortex/wavesword/aggressive - damage Wolfpack/lightweight/aggressive - shortest animation - damage/add clear Perfect fifth/caster/vortex - damage, does slightly more damage on solar subclass with ignition fragment Sacred flame/wavesword - add clear
Don't forget, with hunter when using Ergo Sum, Ascension uses the exotic ability of the sword. So if you ascend, you can cast Stormbreaker/Wolfpack/Insectoid etc., your Ascension takes on the surge/siphon of the sword damage type, and each kill in ascension counts as a sword/weapon kill. Pretty neat synergy.
Ascension is good even without that, been playing hunter lately with ascension, winter's shroud and combination blow, I'm like a monk I stg @@MaybeABear
Casters don’t even have to hit a target?! I have a heavy frame so I’ve been dive bombing into crowds and the lightning finishes off whoever is still alive.
Perfect Fifth is incredibly powerful when used on a Solar subclass with a Caster Frame. One use of the projectile will proc the explosive twice, and with the fragment that increases Scorch stacks, it also causes an ignition. Though you won’t be on a Prismatic class, if you’re looking for the best possible damage, go with Perfect Fifth/Caster Frame/Solar subclass with fragment.
Of note for Unplanned Reprieve, the bolts are emitted based on the direction the heavy attack is swung. Cross had an aggressive frame, so it spawned them in a cluster, a vortex frame spawns them in a ring around you, etc.
Wave frame is wacky to watch because the bolts spawn out the tip of the wave when it reaches it's limit or hits a ground texture/ object it can't cross
Nobody mentioning that running double swords and the artifact mod is basically unlimited ammo since the heavy sword will give ergo ammo and visa versa.
Something of note with the perfect fifth perk on a caster frame, if you are on a solar subclass with the fragment that increases applied scorch stacks, one heavy attack is enough to proc an ignition. Might be niche since the sword seems made for transcendence.
My favorite form of this so far has been an Aggressive Frame with Stormbringer. Pairing it with Precious Scars allows you to have the greatest power trip of all time (slamming your sword down and spawning a thunderstorm is so much fun).
I can CONFIRM! 10 telesto orbs drop with caster frame, but from my testing (granted wasn't a lot), the orbs of Telesto spawn away from the target, but the damage still hits which throws me off because seeing the orbs spawn away from the target but yet still connect but overall... it's amazing
I was hoping for aggressive frames dealing the most damage but they are beaten by caster and vortex frames Ascension helicopter combo into a aggressive frame sword slam feels dope af
My strongholds titan build has been going crazy with wolfpack rounds ergo sum. One ergo heavy and you can go crazy with light attacks with a sword with relentless strikes. You can easily get around 200 heavy ammo back
Btw Cross can confirm that Vortex Telesto gives you 10, just tested it. Issue is that it goes in a circle around you, not concentrated, so the odds of hitting all 10 on a boss are slim to none.
@@tidussquaal just from the demonstration i think the telesto perk on a heavy frame will be good for upping the damage numbers to bring it in line with lightweight and caster frames
Certain exotic perks pair better with certain frames. I think the best combos are Wolfpack Lightweight, Sacred Flame Lightweight/Wave frame, Perfect Fifth Caster, Arc Conductor Wave frame, Unplanned Reprieve Aggressive/Caster.
The ticuu divination perk feels really good on the new wave frame, and the telescope bolts on the aggressive frame sword was the first ergo sum I actually got and I love the thing
I love the idea of this weapon, but the energy slot has gotta be one of the most in-demand weapon slots we have right now. Exotic energy primaries like Sunshot, incredible specials like Forbearance and Indebted Kindness, exotic weapons ranging from Still Hunt to Divinity, and even more. I just don't see myself ever running Ergo Sum. But I love that Bungie is experimenting with crazy exotics.
For me it never comes off. I kinda hate the swords are in the heavy slot but only a fraction gets any real use. If your name isn't falling guillotine, or bequest, you are basically useless. My ergo is a wave friend ticcuu and with virtually unlimited ammo its a ad clear powerhouse
I am hoping swords get a rework in terms of separating heavy swords and utility swords. Like casters should be in the special slot. Lightweights too. But heavy swords and stuff like falling guillotine should stay in the heavy.
@@ryosuketatagane6747 The issue is that using a special weapon for addclear usually had very competitive options already with legendaries like waveframes and rocket sidearms. Using your exotic slot just for an addclear special is a bit wasteful, especially since you could have options like an addclear exotic primary(generates more ammo), or an exotic DPS/major killing option(gjallarhorn, tractor cannon, cloudstrike, izanagis, etc.)
I think of this sword as a "Bleach" weapon. You use it in base, once you pop trancendence or "bankai" its gives you an alternate way to use trancendence than to spam melee then throw a grenade
Telesto sword with all the sword + void love the artifact gives this season + Fallen guillotine = Glory. I have been to the promised land, stood atop the mountain, and breathed the fresh air while clutching the besto to my chesto because it's clearly better than the resto. Let's gooooooo
Dude... 12 man Excision is pure CHAOS!! I did that yesterday with latam guardians and it was pure hell.... the good side we survived with 12 lives remaining in the 2nd attempt... CRAZY SHIT.
For anybody reading - Caster Frame The Perfect Fifth Ergo Sum with Transcendence active is currently the highest DPS sword in the game. Go for that one. GOD ROLL: Jagged Edge, Swordmaster's Guard, Caster Frame, The Perfect Fifth. 1H2L combo with Lucent Blades x3 After that either Wave or Light Frame with Wolfpack rounds. The other options are not really worth attention.
Got one too. One small thing that wasn't mentioned is that perfect fifth seems to be the only perk that applies an actual subclass verb (scorch and ignition). So it can be used to interact with subclass aspects and fragments.
@@kottonmouthhero8153caster uses less ammo as both frames will require 2 heavy swings to cause an ignition unless on a solar subclass using ashes, then it’s just one heavy swing but losing out on dmg with not being transcendent
I found an odd interaction with this sword and hunters ascension aspect, with the new chest piece equipped, when I was farming whisper mission shadow thralls for the catalyst. I haven't seen if it happens without the chest piece or not but here it is. If you have the sword out and pop ascension, any kills that ascension gets will trigger whatever exotic perk you have on the weapon. Colony one was spawning robots and the cloudstrike one was summoning the lightning. I have videos I recorded of this happening too. If you pair it with the one prismatic aspect that spawns elemental pickups based on light or dark damage multi kills it also was spawning those. It was generating void breaches and ionic traces from the different kills. I'm betting it's not intentional but it is still really fun.
it's not that it's bad, it's just disappointing, I think I and a lotta other people wanted it to have a power up mode like ergo sum you use in the story, instead we have a catalyst that fixes a problem bungie gave the sword on purpose. personally I prefer interesting catalysts and exotics that change the way a weapon can work instead of catalysts that are just good but really simple and boring.
Now i found the ones i want: -Arc conductor on caster frame. I actually have this one -perfect fifth on a caster or vortex. Literally have never got this exotic trait. - unplanned reprieve on a vortex. Haven't got this exotic trait either. And thats it. I dont care for wolve pack. I have it on a vortex. That is good enough.
Caster Riskrunner is my favorite. Carried me through Dual Destiny. Heavy attack a major and the rest fall around me. Just wish the effect stayed after I stowed.
9:47 I have that sword. It is wonderful for crowd control, boss damage , and best of all ammo efficient. I even use it over the Gjally sword I got. 12:14 I also have Telesto bolts on a Aggressive sword. My GODS the purple wave of death is satisfying. Especially in PvP, watching anyone who survives just walk right onto the minefield you left behind.
I'm gonna be real, I did not realize until this video that Ergo Sum could roll different frames. As a Hunter, I've been crushing on Still Hunt, so while I've collected quite a few copies of the sword, I hadn't looked closely at them yet.
So, worth noting, I haven't counted them yet, but the vortex frame with Telesto does shoot out a lot of bolts, but its spread out in a circle. It makes great ad clear, but does not do well unless you are soloing that group by yourself.
Telesto perk on a caster is so much fun and the damage is ridiculous. I did oryx with it and my damage was the highest by like a million or something it was wild
"This weapon receives less ammo" and the catalyst gives a means of getting more ammo. It screams "We made a problem just to sell you a solution" and I'm not a fan of that at all.
I use an aggressive with telesto bolts for what seems like max damage in one hit. When I heavy slam on a boss, all the bolts pretty much immediately blow up on said boss. Works great in my banner of war build.
philosophy nerd here. ergo sum is referencing Rene Decartes's first principle "cogito ergo sum" in latin, in english is "i think, therefore i am." ergo sum pronounced AIR-GO-SOOM. 🍻
I have a Void Ergo with Telesto perk and I added the blessing in Pale Heart that reads "void final blows spawn void seekers". Try that with this Ergo if you have the same perk.
To add to the Telesto bolts, the formation seems to be different across all of the frames. I have Telesto on a lightweight frame, and the bolts are sent out in a horizontal line, following the arc of the swing!
Perfect fifth on the vortex is great works on unstoppable with ignitions and decent for add clear but vortex frames are my favorite gives you the option to use a sword from a safe space
I have a wave frame with sacred flame and it’s pretty great, but after using a wave frame with arc conductor, IMO, it’s way better at ad clear than the other one
Wave Frame Arc Conductor on Bakris is goated, easily my favorite build if im just farming overthrows for class items. Combine artifact mods and the catalyst i never run out of ammo. It is very very strong!
I think the catalyst is a great thing for the sword. I used the titan prismatic grenade on a group of seven ads where 5 got suspended and both the suspend detonation got me ammo then the arc jolt got me more ammo even on the ones not suspended. Got about 23 or 26. I think the invisible CD that is mentioned here might be enough time between the two detonations.
I tried GM Excision twice and it was bugged. Once we couldn't interact to commune with darkness and another time the statue room was bugged. I guess I can't get the catalyst
heres something i wonder which exotic that doesnt have a catalyst which would u like to get one for me salvations grip i just love freezing a group then blowing them up
I have a void, jagged, sword-master, caster, with wolfpack. I think I am good. I also have a vortex with jagged, sword-master, & unplanned. Kind of want more arc conductor rolls because of that nice passive damage
I think it's safe to say that everyone should have at least one solid roll of Wolfpack, much like how everyone should have a GHorn. Just in case it's needed. Otherwise the Perfect Fifth on a build that already deals with Ignitions (and likely Facet of Ruin) would be pretty strong, alongside the good old bomb slam from the Telesto perk just on its own.
Will be a while before I get that damn catalyst. Every minute you are in Excision GM you are playing Error Code Russian Roulette and there's no join in progress enabled, so you just have to get lucky that you are one of the few that make it to the end without getting error coded.
I have the gjallersword lightweight frame which is awesome and a tikus wave frame grab the middle flag, head left use two invisible hunters to capture plates, before heading up top farm subjugators until you have twenty lives, clear focus one side tormentor then have a group of four hold down champions on that side keeping your lives up while team deals with left side tormentor. Doesn’t matter if your damage isn’t S tier if you keep the four people on right side farming champions on your third plate that’s endless time you just win, maybe keep a person on the jumping stone Resurrecting called DPS players.
So basically wolfpack rounds for the few sword bosses and solar best is polaris, arc varients for add clear, the winner is void unplanned reprieve for single target probably with vortex, caster or wave frame?
💯 that's what I did with banner shield ursa titan and supress grenade just spraying everything with all the debuffs and basically saying 'no' to most of the enemies. I laughed when I saw subjugators with thier arms over thier face from the suppression 😂😂
Fun Fact: Perfect Fifth + Caster Frame + Ember of Ashes allows Ergo Sum to ignite targets with 1 heavy attack. To be specific, it creates 2 Perfect Fifth explosions and 1 Ignition.
I think this is a cool exotic but I really haven't found a single use case yet. the transcendence related perks are kind of useless, it's so easy to build up without ergo sum that I have it ready for every single damage phase. I guess the only two rolls worth having are one wolfpack and one arc conductor for very niche scenarios
Perfect 5th on a caster frame makes this the highest dps sword in the game. Better than bequest. Better than guillotine. Even though it’s a SPECIAL sword.
Nothing to do with this video but I keep thinking how hunter and warlock have blink and titan doesn’t. Why has bungie never thought to give titans a burrow ability with arc? Fist to the ground and go under or slide and go under? I continue to see what the favorite classes are
I didn't know that if you're not on prismatic (ie me on void hunter with omni to make team invis with resist x4) can go prismatic by standing in well but will just have regular abilities with increased recharge
I will say I'm glad I'm done with it, but I think it's unfair to anyone wanting the catalyst. A raid is one thing, 11 other people... not a good idea. You can rng it, how I got through. There are lots of unprepared people though, all getting in line.
Cross, pointing at 8 telesto orbs: "As you can see, there are 7 orbs here"
lmao
But vortex frmaes may spawn 10 12:17
@@thelemonman2173 They do. The problem is that it’s all in a circle around you, so it’s good for ad clear but probably worse for boss damage.
@@aksis2133 if you're attacking a boss they should just detonate immediately so it shouldn't even matter
@@xincnos9657key word delayed
In case anyone's curious, the youtuber Aegis did some damage testing and found that an Ergo Sum with The Perfect Fifth (polaris lance) and Caster Frame, plus the transcendence buff, has greater DPS than any HEAVY sword in the game currently. The only caveat is that it might not be possible to proc the ignitions as a team at a scaling rate, so multiple people using it might decrease overall DPS, but still worth checking out Aegis' video for a deep dive.
In other words;
Unplanned reprieve is an okay alternative if someone is already on perfect fifth w/caster, but at that point just use your heavy.
I literally JUST got this roll, Caster Frame with The Perfect Fifth, im happy
Aegis is racist.....
@@Just_be_yourself109 what?
@11:14 enemies that get killed by the arc chain lightning also triggers the artifact mod giving you back ammo without having to spend anymore ammo. So with my waveframe version I use a heavy attack, then the free light attack to close the gap and the arc conductor cleans up any remaining adds around, (amplified running around will quickly clean up the whole room) and get back a ton of ammo.
Go transcendance and get buffed damage. It's so sweet. I have the Vortext Arc Conductor and it's by far my favorite weapon of the season.
It might be my fav
@@jhsrt985 Same here, rarely runs out of ammo and I rarely use my primary slot weapon.
@@SoulG03 Exactly, just started playing with vortex frames, loving them too. Need the catalyst now though.
I am not gonna use the artifact mod because I want the sword to feel and be used like how it’s supposed to be, I wanna have stuff that is possible to do without artifact mods, so I ain’t using it
For those not in the know, Ergo sum with caster frame and perfect 5th is as of right now the highest dps sword in the game, jumping past falling and bequest by a sizeable margin.
Surrounded rolls on falling and bequest are able to just barely eek out slightly higher dps… but surrounded is unreliable in boss dps scenarios, making Caster Polaris Ergo Sun better overall.
I got one with lightweight frame, close yet so far. My wolf pack rounds I didn't care I was so excited lol
Dang, I have a solar aggressive frame with gathering light
I love Ergo so much. After about 30 farmed up my favorite rolls are:
Ticcu's - Wave Frame: All aerial sword attacks are qualified as light attacks so the enemy is both Primed and Detonated as part of the same heavy attack chain.
Riskrunner - Wave Frame: If the group of adds doesnt die to the wave of Arc Light falling into the center of them doing your best Tesla Coil impression will probably do the trick.
Telesto - Caster Frame: All telesto bolts spawn once the disc hits a target letting you spawn them on melee targets or that thing over there that you want dead.
Polaris - Vortex: Build up those hits nice and quick to reach that ignition faster.
Try Polaris with Caster, it goes hard lol
I love agressive risk runner so much
@@PunknPixels I will keep an eye out for that roll!
“That thing over there that you want dead” is hilarious for Telelsto
Caster riskrunner is my baby. Heavy attack to wipe a yellow bar and let the chain clean up adds
Telesto bolts number is dependent on the frame, vortex 10, aggressive/wavesword 8, caster 6, and so on. Vortex spread everywhere unless you use it on up close to something beefy, then all 10 will hit the boss. Wave sword frame also does damage on the uppercut, so the damage with that added gets up closer to vortex/caster heavy damage.
Good rolls to try:
Arc conductor/wavesword/caster - add clear
Unplanned rep/vortex/wavesword/aggressive - damage
Wolfpack/lightweight/aggressive - shortest animation - damage/add clear
Perfect fifth/caster/vortex - damage, does slightly more damage on solar subclass with ignition fragment
Sacred flame/wavesword - add clear
Don't forget, with hunter when using Ergo Sum, Ascension uses the exotic ability of the sword. So if you ascend, you can cast Stormbreaker/Wolfpack/Insectoid etc., your Ascension takes on the surge/siphon of the sword damage type, and each kill in ascension counts as a sword/weapon kill. Pretty neat synergy.
I hope they don't fix this bug because it makes Ascension worth using
Okay that's kinda insane tho
Pair this with Radiant Dance Machines for unlimited ascension and it’s insane
Ascension is good even without that, been playing hunter lately with ascension, winter's shroud and combination blow, I'm like a monk I stg @@MaybeABear
Glad to hear someone giving unplanned reprieve some love. Been using it in the second encounter of the raid, and that thing slaps lol
Been swapping between caster and vortex for unplanned, so far my favorite perk!
Riskrunner's perk is my favorite for Ergo Sum. One Caster shot and you have arc chain damage and shield. It doesn't even have to hit a target.
Casters don’t even have to hit a target?! I have a heavy frame so I’ve been dive bombing into crowds and the lightning finishes off whoever is still alive.
@@PastorJummpI love that roll so much.
Wave is great for this
Yeah, and the chain lighting triggers precious scars’ healing effect too
Perfect…
Chain lightning Caster was my first good roll and I don't think I will ever take it off
Perfect Fifth is incredibly powerful when used on a Solar subclass with a Caster Frame. One use of the projectile will proc the explosive twice, and with the fragment that increases Scorch stacks, it also causes an ignition.
Though you won’t be on a Prismatic class, if you’re looking for the best possible damage, go with Perfect Fifth/Caster Frame/Solar subclass with fragment.
Of note for Unplanned Reprieve, the bolts are emitted based on the direction the heavy attack is swung. Cross had an aggressive frame, so it spawned them in a cluster, a vortex frame spawns them in a ring around you, etc.
Wave frame is wacky to watch because the bolts spawn out the tip of the wave when it reaches it's limit or hits a ground texture/ object it can't cross
Nobody mentioning that running double swords and the artifact mod is basically unlimited ammo since the heavy sword will give ergo ammo and visa versa.
This is what I am using right now
Ergo sum+ summum bonum
Something of note with the perfect fifth perk on a caster frame, if you are on a solar subclass with the fragment that increases applied scorch stacks, one heavy attack is enough to proc an ignition. Might be niche since the sword seems made for transcendence.
Good to know thanks
I can confirm that the Colony roll does chain robots, but not consistently.
Wave Frame is delightfully powerful with that perk, btw :)
My favorite form of this so far has been an Aggressive Frame with Stormbringer. Pairing it with Precious Scars allows you to have the greatest power trip of all time (slamming your sword down and spawning a thunderstorm is so much fun).
I can CONFIRM! 10 telesto orbs drop with caster frame, but from my testing (granted wasn't a lot), the orbs of Telesto spawn away from the target, but the damage still hits which throws me off because seeing the orbs spawn away from the target but yet still connect but overall... it's amazing
I was hoping for aggressive frames dealing the most damage but they are beaten by caster and vortex frames
Ascension helicopter combo into a aggressive frame sword slam feels dope af
My strongholds titan build has been going crazy with wolfpack rounds ergo sum. One ergo heavy and you can go crazy with light attacks with a sword with relentless strikes. You can easily get around 200 heavy ammo back
Thanks for the tip. Gonna try this.
Does it do anything if you’re solo hitting with it?
@@alaskayoung3413 yes, Wolfpack ergo works on itself and also works if you proc the buff then switch to a legendary sword
@@BrunisPistol sweet. Got the roll today but hadn’t tried it
add the exotic chest piece hazardous propulsion
Btw Cross can confirm that Vortex Telesto gives you 10, just tested it. Issue is that it goes in a circle around you, not concentrated, so the odds of hitting all 10 on a boss are slim to none.
yeah so i'd imagine it's stronger on the heavy frame, since it comes out in front of you like a shotgun
also have one rolled, does infact give 10.
@@fallenangeldraco3778I can confirm shotgun sword Is a thing
@@fallenangeldraco3778Probably best on caster
@@tidussquaal just from the demonstration i think the telesto perk on a heavy frame will be good for upping the damage numbers to bring it in line with lightweight and caster frames
Wave with Ticus works, very fun
Certain exotic perks pair better with certain frames. I think the best combos are Wolfpack Lightweight, Sacred Flame Lightweight/Wave frame, Perfect Fifth Caster, Arc Conductor Wave frame, Unplanned Reprieve Aggressive/Caster.
The ticuu divination perk feels really good on the new wave frame, and the telescope bolts on the aggressive frame sword was the first ergo sum I actually got and I love the thing
I love the idea of this weapon, but the energy slot has gotta be one of the most in-demand weapon slots we have right now.
Exotic energy primaries like Sunshot, incredible specials like Forbearance and Indebted Kindness, exotic weapons ranging from Still Hunt to Divinity, and even more.
I just don't see myself ever running Ergo Sum. But I love that Bungie is experimenting with crazy exotics.
I will agree for general use, but on sword bosses, wolfpack rounds is so powerful that it's worth running at least one. Absolutely nutty.
For me it never comes off. I kinda hate the swords are in the heavy slot but only a fraction gets any real use. If your name isn't falling guillotine, or bequest, you are basically useless. My ergo is a wave friend ticcuu and with virtually unlimited ammo its a ad clear powerhouse
I am hoping swords get a rework in terms of separating heavy swords and utility swords. Like casters should be in the special slot. Lightweights too. But heavy swords and stuff like falling guillotine should stay in the heavy.
@@ryosuketatagane6747 The issue is that using a special weapon for addclear usually had very competitive options already with legendaries like waveframes and rocket sidearms. Using your exotic slot just for an addclear special is a bit wasteful, especially since you could have options like an addclear exotic primary(generates more ammo), or an exotic DPS/major killing option(gjallarhorn, tractor cannon, cloudstrike, izanagis, etc.)
@@ryosuketatagane6747but wat if my gold tusk manages to out dmg majority of them there bequest users during the crota times :(
I think of this sword as a "Bleach" weapon. You use it in base, once you pop trancendence or "bankai" its gives you an alternate way to use trancendence than to spam melee then throw a grenade
"Scatter, senbone zakura kageyoshi"
Telesto sword with all the sword + void love the artifact gives this season + Fallen guillotine = Glory. I have been to the promised land, stood atop the mountain, and breathed the fresh air while clutching the besto to my chesto because it's clearly better than the resto. Let's gooooooo
Dude... 12 man Excision is pure CHAOS!! I did that yesterday with latam guardians and it was pure hell.... the good side we survived with 12 lives remaining in the 2nd attempt... CRAZY SHIT.
Best 4 hours ever played on this game
For anybody reading - Caster Frame The Perfect Fifth Ergo Sum with Transcendence active is currently the highest DPS sword in the game. Go for that one.
GOD ROLL: Jagged Edge, Swordmaster's Guard, Caster Frame, The Perfect Fifth. 1H2L combo with Lucent Blades x3
After that either Wave or Light Frame with Wolfpack rounds. The other options are not really worth attention.
i swear if awkwrdpanduh8329 comments “weeeee” i’m gonna lose it
2 minutes before you said that 😂
Too late 🤣
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I've been running a wave frame with arc conductor, it is incredible.
I'm basically playing a hack n slash.
The ad clear is crazy!
I've got a perfect fifth caster. It goes boom nicely
Dam I gotta try that
Got one too. One small thing that wasn't mentioned is that perfect fifth seems to be the only perk that applies an actual subclass verb (scorch and ignition). So it can be used to interact with subclass aspects and fragments.
I got the perfect fifth vortex, curious which one is better 🤔
@@kottonmouthhero8153caster uses less ammo as both frames will require 2 heavy swings to cause an ignition unless on a solar subclass using ashes, then it’s just one heavy swing but losing out on dmg with not being transcendent
I found an odd interaction with this sword and hunters ascension aspect, with the new chest piece equipped, when I was farming whisper mission shadow thralls for the catalyst. I haven't seen if it happens without the chest piece or not but here it is.
If you have the sword out and pop ascension, any kills that ascension gets will trigger whatever exotic perk you have on the weapon. Colony one was spawning robots and the cloudstrike one was summoning the lightning. I have videos I recorded of this happening too. If you pair it with the one prismatic aspect that spawns elemental pickups based on light or dark damage multi kills it also was spawning those. It was generating void breaches and ionic traces from the different kills. I'm betting it's not intentional but it is still really fun.
People are upset with a catalyst that with a little bit of forethought gives you maximum Transcendence time AND infinite ammo?
it's not that it's bad, it's just disappointing, I think I and a lotta other people wanted it to have a power up mode like ergo sum you use in the story, instead we have a catalyst that fixes a problem bungie gave the sword on purpose.
personally I prefer interesting catalysts and exotics that change the way a weapon can work instead of catalysts that are just good but really simple and boring.
Now i found the ones i want:
-Arc conductor on caster frame. I actually have this one
-perfect fifth on a caster or vortex. Literally have never got this exotic trait.
- unplanned reprieve on a vortex. Haven't got this exotic trait either.
And thats it. I dont care for wolve pack. I have it on a vortex. That is good enough.
Caster Riskrunner is my favorite. Carried me through Dual Destiny. Heavy attack a major and the rest fall around me. Just wish the effect stayed after I stowed.
The Colony bots can transform to use volatile explosions if you throw a grenade with the right fragment.
9:47 I have that sword. It is wonderful for crowd control, boss damage , and best of all ammo efficient. I even use it over the Gjally sword I got.
12:14 I also have Telesto bolts on a Aggressive sword. My GODS the purple wave of death is satisfying. Especially in PvP, watching anyone who survives just walk right onto the minefield you left behind.
I'm gonna be real, I did not realize until this video that Ergo Sum could roll different frames. As a Hunter, I've been crushing on Still Hunt, so while I've collected quite a few copies of the sword, I hadn't looked closely at them yet.
So, worth noting, I haven't counted them yet, but the vortex frame with Telesto does shoot out a lot of bolts, but its spread out in a circle. It makes great ad clear, but does not do well unless you are soloing that group by yourself.
Telesto perk on a caster is so much fun and the damage is ridiculous. I did oryx with it and my damage was the highest by like a million or something it was wild
"This weapon receives less ammo" and the catalyst gives a means of getting more ammo. It screams "We made a problem just to sell you a solution" and I'm not a fan of that at all.
I use an aggressive with telesto bolts for what seems like max damage in one hit. When I heavy slam on a boss, all the bolts pretty much immediately blow up on said boss. Works great in my banner of war build.
apparently Caster Polaris is the way to go, even beating frenzy surrounded guillotine in dps
philosophy nerd here. ergo sum is referencing Rene Decartes's first principle "cogito ergo sum" in latin, in english is "i think, therefore i am." ergo sum pronounced AIR-GO-SOOM. 🍻
I have a Void Ergo with Telesto perk and I added the blessing in Pale Heart that reads "void final blows spawn void seekers". Try that with this Ergo if you have the same perk.
To add to the Telesto bolts, the formation seems to be different across all of the frames. I have Telesto on a lightweight frame, and the bolts are sent out in a horizontal line, following the arc of the swing!
Perfect fifth on the vortex is great works on unstoppable with ignitions and decent for add clear but vortex frames are my favorite gives you the option to use a sword from a safe space
My first one was a vortex frame with perfect fifth. Haven't used it much tbh but im still trying to get through quests and stuff.
The Telesto perk on vortex spreads 10 bolts all around you so it’s significantly weaker for boss dmg than aggressive frame
I have a wave frame with sacred flame and it’s pretty great, but after using a wave frame with arc conductor, IMO, it’s way better at ad clear than the other one
The Strombringer perk should proc on hit, man. It would be so cool if it did.
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Wave Frame Arc Conductor on Bakris is goated, easily my favorite build if im just farming overthrows for class items. Combine artifact mods and the catalyst i never run out of ammo. It is very very strong!
The ticus sword with aggressive frame is amazing for add clear, the heavy marks a large area
personally I've been loving telesto perk + lightweight frame
Aggressive frame with Ticus has been brilliant for me. AoE setup with the slam and wide cleaving strikes set off multiple explosions at once.
Lightweight for sacred flame does an aoe around you and procs it on everything within it, that’s my favorite combo so far
Sacred flame with wave frame works great with glacier grenade shatter and solar ignition
the caster + telesto does sound fun.
but im still gunna go wave frame wolfpack rounds though.
the 2 im gunna chase after
I think the catalyst is a great thing for the sword. I used the titan prismatic grenade on a group of seven ads where 5 got suspended and both the suspend detonation got me ammo then the arc jolt got me more ammo even on the ones not suspended. Got about 23 or 26. I think the invisible CD that is mentioned here might be enough time between the two detonations.
Perfect fifth and vortex frame sword is op af!!(yes it works with the heavy attack!!
perfect fifth together with caster frame and the ember of char fragment gives ignition in 1 heavy attack
I picked up a caster frame ergo sum with unplanned reprieve on it. Solid sword
I tried GM Excision twice and it was bugged. Once we couldn't interact to commune with darkness and another time the statue room was bugged. I guess I can't get the catalyst
heres something i wonder
which exotic that doesnt have a catalyst
which would u like to get one
for me
salvations grip i just love freezing a group then blowing them up
The stormbringer perk also procs on ascension kills if you have the ergo sum equipped
I have the wave frame with the detonation perk. I haven't tried it yet though, I tend to lean towards the gally
Arc ergo sum with Wolfpack and the catalyst SHREDDED herald this week.
I have a void, jagged, sword-master, caster, with wolfpack. I think I am good.
I also have a vortex with jagged, sword-master, & unplanned.
Kind of want more arc conductor rolls because of that nice passive damage
I think it's safe to say that everyone should have at least one solid roll of Wolfpack, much like how everyone should have a GHorn. Just in case it's needed. Otherwise the Perfect Fifth on a build that already deals with Ignitions (and likely Facet of Ruin) would be pretty strong, alongside the good old bomb slam from the Telesto perk just on its own.
Facet of sacrifice helps with the darkness regen, a few combo blow melees and back to slaying with ergo sum
Relentless + Wolfpack gives you even more ammo btw. Basically rewind rounds sword edition
Will be a while before I get that damn catalyst. Every minute you are in Excision GM you are playing Error Code Russian Roulette and there's no join in progress enabled, so you just have to get lucky that you are one of the few that make it to the end without getting error coded.
I have the gjallersword lightweight frame which is awesome and a tikus wave frame
grab the middle flag, head left use two invisible hunters to capture plates, before heading up top farm subjugators until you have twenty lives, clear focus one side tormentor then have a group of four hold down champions on that side keeping your lives up while team deals with left side tormentor. Doesn’t matter if your damage isn’t S tier if you keep the four people on right side farming champions on your third plate that’s endless time you just win, maybe keep a person on the jumping stone Resurrecting called DPS players.
It do come with the update. I've seen mine spawn seekers from kills by seekers. It's not super common but it do happen.
So basically wolfpack rounds for the few sword bosses and solar best is polaris, arc varients for add clear, the winner is void unplanned reprieve for single target probably with vortex, caster or wave frame?
1st one I got was a light frame telesto and it slaps.
Quick tip for GM mission, collective obligation crowd controls like its nobody's business
💯 that's what I did with banner shield ursa titan and supress grenade just spraying everything with all the debuffs and basically saying 'no' to most of the enemies. I laughed when I saw subjugators with thier arms over thier face from the suppression 😂😂
I have an Arc wolfpack round ergo sum with the sword frame
So what I'm hearing is you get a WolfPack Sword with a team of all telestos. It could (if I'm right) melt errything.
Can confirm unplanned reprieve on a wave frame is good. 👍 it's a little inconsistent with the telesto bolts hitting the target tho.
Fun Fact: Perfect Fifth + Caster Frame + Ember of Ashes allows Ergo Sum to ignite targets with 1 heavy attack. To be specific, it creates 2 Perfect Fifth explosions and 1 Ignition.
At the cost of transcendence :(
I think this is a cool exotic but I really haven't found a single use case yet. the transcendence related perks are kind of useless, it's so easy to build up without ergo sum that I have it ready for every single damage phase. I guess the only two rolls worth having are one wolfpack and one arc conductor for very niche scenarios
Is it cool sure,is it worth your exotic slot no
Great video, but I'm not using anything other than khvostov🤷🏾♂️
I would like to see more testing and what perk is best with what frame
Caster and Perfect 5th
Caster frame, swordmaster guard and Perfect Fifth is the best roll for DPS
@@Sero4 lmao I also just watched Aegis' video 🤣
Perfect 5th on a caster frame makes this the highest dps sword in the game. Better than bequest. Better than guillotine. Even though it’s a SPECIAL sword.
it's really tragic the exotic chainsaw sword isn't even in the conversation and was nerfed for some reason
Votex void with colony spawner was my first role
Tbh the only thing which I wished the catalyst did was also give ammo regen while transcendant
If you use abilities that scorch it will cause an ignition per heavy attack with caster frame
the telesto perk is very goof on casters frame to. the bolts only spawn when the prejectile hit a target
Nothing to do with this video but I keep thinking how hunter and warlock have blink and titan doesn’t. Why has bungie never thought to give titans a burrow ability with arc? Fist to the ground and go under or slide and go under? I continue to see what the favorite classes are
I have been loving arc conductor Ergo with the Call sidearm
Haven't tried it out yet, but I have a Wave Frame/Sacred Flame roll, and I'm eager to take it for a spin
12:17 "vortex frmaes may spawn 10" 😆
I have the Wolfpack Rounds and Arc Conductor versions. I think I like Arc Conductor more.
I didn't know that if you're not on prismatic (ie me on void hunter with omni to make team invis with resist x4) can go prismatic by standing in well but will just have regular abilities with increased recharge
I landed a Void Caster frame, Jagged, Balanced guard, and insectoid robots, really fun to use especially with doom fang pauldrons
So what about telesto on your sword, but someone else has the wolf pack rounds?
The catalyst alone makes it meta for transcendence focused builds.
I will say I'm glad I'm done with it, but I think it's unfair to anyone wanting the catalyst. A raid is one thing, 11 other people... not a good idea. You can rng it, how I got through. There are lots of unprepared people though, all getting in line.