No. You should still concentrate normal fire on cohozuna, just not at the exclusion of all else. Shoot cohozuna, use extra eggs on it, fire on lessers if threatened and eliminate bosses ASAP
Another factor to consider is on what tide level you fight the Cohozuna. Low to Normal tide is more managble, though a larger space tends to make people split apart instead of stick together. High tide though will make you sweat for those scales.
@@VaskoGames When I was fighting the Cohozuna, I initially thought that it only high tides because the first three times I fought it has only been on high tides :( On spawning grounds...
Though it certainly can be harder during high tide, it's worth noting that it is much easier to hit the cohozuna with the golden eggs since he cant travel as far away (just my experience). High tide really starts to be a problem when one or more flyfish(es?) spawn in to remind you of how limited your space is. Remember to use your specials especially if its on the flyfish lol.
My biggest problem is that teammates ignore other teammates that have a ton of eggs and often lead the giant coho salmon into difficult to reach areas. It’s best to keep it near the mountain of eggs instead of panicking and running away.
If you go to the Splatoon wiki, it shows you the probability of scales. Higher hazard equals higher chance for silver and gold. The total amount of scales is determined by the amount of damage the team does, and how quickly you do it. You get additional scales for every 12.5% dmg done, and bonus scales depending on how much time is left. The % chance of silver and gold are per scale. Each scale earned has the same % chance of being gold and such
I've defeated Coho twice (once after time ran out so I got cheated out of a scale but got a gold still) I have gotten I think 3 golds and 9 total silver (almost enough for yellow suit :( )
One thing probebly worth mentioning is weapons that are "chonozuna killers" basically main weapons that pump out a ton of DPS and should focus on luring chonozuna into good positions and dealing consistent DPS over boss killing and egg firing. Big examples including: Splating class in general (hydra and ballpoint espcially) Both Splatana's (melee charge slashes) Dapples (dodge rolls hurt) Sploosh Some grizzoco weapons (G-splatana, G-stringer, G-charger) Usually a rotation has at least one of these weapons or something slightly weaker like e-liter, glooga, 96, blob etc. There are DPS chart's if you want specifics. Also don't wait on using crab do it at the very start of a wave less hectic then.
E-liter is one of, if not the best weapon for Cohozuna damage, one charged shot doesn't fall too short of Golden Egg damage And for the crab tank, as long as you use it, the time you do doesn't matter too much, but it should be used when there are too many bosses
Im no professional when it comes to splatoon dps but i learned from a random coho encounter that dynamo and flingza (andnmore recently big swig if youre lucky) are good rollers for shavin off hp if you just so happen to get stuck against cohozuna for a bit
@@ienjoyapple I mean, I can see tje vision with that weapon and it's certainly has it's uses, but it doesn't appear versatile enough for the mode in my opinion.
@@nick3805 true I don't think it's the absolute best and it definitely needs someone to paint for it but under the right situations I think it's a really great weapon for most situations
One situational thing that i saw a while ago on Twitter was that if you can find a way to roll into the Cohozuna many times in a row with a strong roller (like the dynamo) you can deal a decent amount of damage (Similar to those crazy overfishing waves during goldie seeking with a dynamo roller, look it up if you haven't heard of it). It's very tough to pull off though, since you need to position yourself between a wall so that you don't get pushed away and the Cohozuna as it targets you. But if you happen to have a roller during an xtrawave, keep it in mind.
Exactly! I found a clip of someone elses where they just got stuck against cohozuna with a dynamo it just kept bumping into it so. Its hp was draining like crazy and all bc of they couldnt move
I didn’t know about the auto targeting Lillie tip: Don’t be like me and just fight at the entire round at the Cohozuna with your main, you might do damage but it little and the other boss will surround you. Fire but don’t focus unless you’re close by. Also make sure you have a good crew. My role is a mix of medic to help other to recover from splatted and have known for my dodging skills. Also use your special, it the one thing I see repeatedly not be used. *Lillie cries* I want to get the Pink or white suit but I can’t even get a yellow suit because I have 7 shiver shells…
Er... Your role depends on the weapon you get, and really you should strive to be an adaptable jack of all trades at all times. Dodging is good, though- I think the skill that will make anyone instantly better at freelancing is learning how to stay alive no matter what
This heavily depends on your weapon. If you have any high dps weapons: hydra, heavy, dapples, reeflux (half charged shots surprisingly have very high dps) sploosh. Any weapon that can lay down high consistent damage should focus on absolutely nothing but firing at cohozuna unless another boss is in the way. The rest of the team should clear bosses and throw eggs. All those weapons do far more damage with the main weapon than you can get by egg hunting. Obviously if your team needs help, help them but you should spend every available moment firing at him. A hydra alone can more or less solo him. If you have any decent shooter, like splattershot or zap, you should also put a good bit of focus on him too
Salmon run is a game of priorities and managing the salmon AI, and pretty much everything in this guide further proves that. The fact there's exact times the boss super jumps and that luring is still a required strategy means everything in this mode can be optimized and perfected with enough planning.
Yeah, but 90% of the Salmon run players only focus on delivering eggs and when a really big horde in high tide arrives they keep delivering eggs while only one member fight against all the horde alone. But yeah Prioritizing should be what players need to play, if the situation demands to fight you fight and if the situation is favorable for gathering eggs, then gather the eggs.
It’s funny how Cohozuna is the king fish when Flyfish are arguably far more powerful and more terrifying than the behemoth salmonid. Also good luck fighting Cohozuna on high tide! Want a cherry on top? Max flyfish and a dash of small fries.
After months playing Salmon Run, I put Fly Fish lower on the tier list, they are annoying but blow off one launcher and they become a minor announce and no more spawn in. Stingers and Big Shots are FAR more dangerous and annoying. I even have noticed that Fish Sticks are actually the nost dangerous support, alongside Slamming Lids. They are weak but their support abilities make them extremely foolish to ignore. They are one of the immediate bosses one should kill or they give Flyfish an extremely higher chance of killing you. Less room to move, you die
This is the most frustrating part of Salmon Run. I absolutely love this part of the game, but the scale rewards are way off. If they just increased the scale output and made more prizes to choose from, it would solve a lot of the frustration. I rotate between ranked and salmon run and still struggle with saving up enough to get the top prizes/rewards.
That's why I'll be only happy with my green outfit, not only my favorite color, but the farm to at least get another one is unnecessary tedious and don't seems worth it besides flex
Not getting splatted is also definitely important in order to successfully finish waves as well as for the extra wave, more important for sure on higher difficulties. It is equally as valuable as getting kills/splats. This is something that I think a lot of players still struggle with, same in ranked. How much will kills actually matter if the player in question also dies a lot? Finding the right balance between splatting and surviving is certainly the key here.
Thank You for all these great tips Mr Games, I will use these tips for the future. Hopefully in your next Cohozuna Guide there will be less footage of me dead.
The best way to deal with cohozuna is to manage the amount of backup he has. The problem is, it's hard to do that on high tide spawning grounds with an angry Godzilla fish man
one thing i struggle with is timing and aiming specials and golden eggs at bosses, i wish there was a video out there showing exactly how to use each special for each boss the best
golden eggs should pierce on overkill (like, if I shot a chum, the egg should continue through and deal 700 to the next thing it hits) gold scales need to be more common, especially since they’re needed to upgrade the shop
As somone whos gotten 216+ Coho Wins, I do have some valuable tips!!! Crab is the MOST VALUABLE DPS special against Coho. I practically shoot 100% of my shots at it. It shredss and takes a pretty big chunk out of Coho. All the other specials are pretty bad at attacking it directly, so you would rather prioritize taking out bosses with them. ALWAYS have a Golden Egg on you when you can. Bosses do tend to come to you eventually if you give it time and you want a Golden Egg at the ready to throw when they come near you to take them out faster. (So basically I throw 2 eggs, then hold onto 1 for the next boss) ALWAYS have at least ONE person (preferably the worker who has the highest DPS weapon) constantly shooting Coho at alll times to capitalize every valuable second you have. While the other 3 kill bosses for eggs. Learn to Dodge Roll for invulnerability frames to avoid taking damage from Coho Belly slams. :)
I would want cohozuna to be a bit more common. 2 great ways without changing how many matches you need for the meter could be: Meter not resetting after each shift. The resetting feels like a middle finger for not beating wave 3 and playing cohozuna as your last match of a session. Please Nintendo. Guaranteed cohozuna when anybody's meter is full. Currently each full meter in a team increases cohozuna chance and 4 guarantees it. If this makes them too common then make the chances bigger and guarantee lower than currently
I ended up cutting this from the video, but I did have a segment about how frequently it appears and yep, in general you run into him once every 30-60 minutes, which is not very often at all... I feel like they did this so that even the hardcore salmon run players can have something to play for years later
8:09 - I feel like its more similar to Genshin's artifact RNG than the probability of you getting a 5-Star character, because there you actually have a pity guarantee system (Every 90 wishes you're garenteed to get a 5-Star character, if the character you get is a standard character then you'll be garenteed to get the limited 5-Star character) Its kinda like how most of the time when you farm for artifacts in Genshin, you get stats that you don't want or have no use for, like how in Salmon Run Cohozuna fights you'll get scales you don't want or have no use for and have a small chance to get what you actually want
HLM warrior here. Good video, but I would expand #3 to say that pretty much any downtime by anyone should be used to get a few hits in on the guy, especially on weapon sets that simply lack DpS. As in, control enemies first, and once they are controlled, deal chip damage to the main target. It makes a difference. It's easiest to do with long-ranged weapons because they don't have to move up to deal damage.
When I used Killer wail 5.1 very close to cohozuna, (Right up to it) it shredded the boss's damage. I recommend that if you have Killer wail 5.1, you should go right up to the boss and then activate it.
I would recommend Hazmie for anyone looking for advice on individual rotations for salmon run- they even point out which weapons are best for focusing Cohozuna when there is a weapon that does notably high damage to it
Another thing to keep in mind is that you can use your specials right at the start to hit the cohozuna and get rid of the bosses at the same time, since they generally spawn in right next to each other. If successful, you're not only efficient but it gives you time to wail on him with your main weapons for a few seconds undisturbed. Whether or not to use your special right at the start is a quick call you need to make based on which bosses spawn and if your special can take them out while the chonky boy is there. This mostly works for high and low tides, since you can immediately spot where they are spawning from. On mid tide it can take too long to spot them and then they are too spread out already for this. However, using your specials early also gives you big momentum to start with, and the round ends when you drain the HP, not when the timer runs out, so it's generally a good idea.
There is little significance about winning an Xtrawave. The difference between a win by a second and a loss by a second is only one scale. The goal is not to win to the exclusion of anything else, it's to deal as much damage as possible as fast as possible.
I was stuck at 8 silver scales for at least a week's worth of rotations and only recently got the 2 i needed for my first different colored slop suit (I then proceeded to completely botch the next few jobs that I did for my 2nd super bonus and completely fail the next Cohozuna 😭) so thanks for the tips!
i think the absolute hardest part is playing freelance where you cant really communicate these tips/instructions to your teammates 😭 like even if i do all of these things, my teammates might not know what to do, and theres a high chance we’d still lose the cohozuna
I remember being swarmed by glow flies and was confused because I normally never got targeted first but as I stopped to figure it out I got rushed by salmon bois and that's when it hit me that my team was doomed. ... my team ended in less than 10 seconds after I got wrecked
This video reminds me of when I first found your channel while looking for Salmon Run tips back in Spoon 2 days (wow, now that's weird to say!) Great research as always!
I love that Cohozuna has no concrete strategy to beat it, it just enforces the idea of meeting this ultimate boss you cannot defeat. I fought him like 20 times and I have beaten him only once (it actually was yesterday)
It's interesting that the game doesn't let you demote yourself all the way down to Go-Getter, mainly because it's something my group has done as a challenge during Big Run (the challenge being: could we get ourselves back to VP before Big Run was over)
One thing I do that I find helpful is utilize the fishsticks! Getting up high helps me clear out bosses and dead teammates. I also like popping my specials from up there, specifically the crab and jetpack specials. Unless a Maws pops up, being up on the pole keeps you free from the mobs on the ground that would swarm you and waste your special. Using a jetpack from the pole gives you extra height to attack from too! One bit of advice with the jetpack is if the Zuna goes to jump while you're hitting it you can actually aim and hit him in mid air with the jetpack! No wasted shots!
You covered a lot, thx! Although, you did miss a few things, it shouldn’t be the one closest using their main more, it should the one with the highest dps weapon, every weapon rotation I check to see which has the highest dps, so if I get that weapon, I know whenever to focus on big boy or the bosses and chums. Another thing is the tide and the map, some maps are better at high tide (all are basically) but getting normal or low tide on some maps are good too.
one thing that's personally helped me with cohozunas is watching overfishers and how they deal with him. overfishers are the best of the best when it comes to salmon run, pumping out more eggs in a single wave than a lot of (lower ranked) players can in a whole shift. not only do they have a lot of good overall tips (that work much better in a group, most you shouldn't try solo) such as luring, how to deal with shore bosses + their eggs, etc. but they're especially insane with king salmonids, often times killing it way before that 30 second cut off for the most amount of scales. my personal favourite at the moment is brianthedrummer and his friends. they're insane overfishers, and hold the sockeye random rotation record at 241 eggs (and did another shift [244 eggs] during which brian had no voice and couldn't communicate past the in game options). watching their shifts and actually observing the strageties they use has made me a way better salmon runner. go watch brian and his fellow overfishers because they're insane.
Thanks for the video, the three tips are really helpful! I felt like they were something I should have known already, but didn't. Actually, I think I did know about the third one. But that's only because my first (of two) Cohozuna takedowns was helped along by my use of the mini splatling I'd been given to do some DPS on him. So I can back you up on that one.
So I've only encountered the cohozuna a mere handful of times and it's a big panic allll the time. I didn't even notice you can shoot the other boss salmonid with the eggs too. That's a tidal game changer
This is insanely helpful, I rarely win cohozuna runs and I feel like I’m not getting anywhere with gear and banners 😫 I’m excited to try out these tips and keep them in mind
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The best method I've seen and done is one player focuses on leading Cohozuna around while the other three focus on killing bosses and pilling eggs up. Now with this the team needs to be close enough to eachother to help or switch roles when needed. During that time make sure to hit Coho with those golden eggs and NOT just pile them up, the one leading him can grab eggs too. Many players NEED to remember to shoot cohozuna with their main weapon, do not be afraid too. Honestly Coho isn't that dangerous outside how his health and mass. His bellyflop will kill you but his slam isn't always an instant kill. You can even get him stuck in a loop if he is following you and you go up a Fish Stick tower, everytime he tries to attack you you can jump over it. Your weapon will do more damage than you think even if weak. Small damage is better than no damage at all. And with damage, CONSTANTLY attack and damage him. Yes dealing with other Salmonids is vital but every amount of damage done adds up, like saving coins and taking them to the bank. Besides Big Shots, Stingers, or Fly Fish, never waste your time at the shore unless you have chosen to lead Coho there to bombard him with golden eggs. Once you have lowered his health to about, maybe the 10 to 20% margin, this is the time where the team together needs to focus on attacking Coho with their main weapons especially when the time could be around 20 to 30 seconds left. At that point, focusing on golden eggs is a gamble but any left to use helps. Every time I've won the extrawave or was about too, his health was low and we began to all shoot him with our mains. Coho is easy to dodge, he doesn't hurt you unless he does an attack. Your weapons that rotation do make a difference but I've found that the methods I've used will work no matter the weapon combos. Obviously Grizzco weapons will kill him easier and will certain other weapons. Seriously, be close enough together, don't run off far away to the shore, constantly damage him, listen to teammates(use voice chat if friends or discord if real friends), kill bosses and have your coho guide lead him near them, know your surroundings so you don't get trapped, have an escape route, shoot him with main when his health is low, and you will more often than not win. And yes the scales you get are determined by Time, Damage, Level, and I've noticed how many times you got Splatted. When I was Splatted less I got more scales, I've even got where I get all three types at the end.
A really good science has been committed here. Building upon what was said here, Generally the player staying close to Cohozuna, guiding his movement while attacking him (the term for this is Kiting) should be one with a higher DPS weapon. Here are some examples: either of the Splatanas, any of the Splatlings, E-liter, .96 Gal, .52 Gal, Bloblober, Splat Brella, Dapple Dualies, Splat Dualies, Sploosh-o-matic, the Grizzco Stringer, or the Grizzco Splatana. Some of the slower weapons, like Hydra Splatling, are harder to do this with, but can have an IMMENSE payoff. (A tip for these slower weapons is to keep an egg on you, using it on lessers as needed to keep yourself alive. I did this in the recent Snipewriter rotation, and it worked quite well, as I saved myself multiple times, contributing to us winning)
My last round with Cohozuna I got landed with the paintbrush. I occasionally slapped him while trying to keep paths open for everyone, especially the target player, and controlling the lessers to the best of my ability (I’m not a paintbrush main). I died at the very end but we did it.
Hazmy, in their community posts, uploads guides for rotations, including difficulty, what weapons should focus on, and usually tips applicable to extra waves
I've played a TON on salmon run on splat3 (enough to get the yellow and pink suit) and I remember all the times my team managed to kill conozuna TWICE, JUST TWICE
I’m so close to owning one of everything in the salmon shop, all I need left are the x999 silver scale banner and the x100 gold scale Goldie decoration, it’s such a grind 😤
I wonder if the devs are taking note of the fact that flyfish are killing so many salmon runs that don’t have inkjet available. If you have inkjet do not use it except in absolute emergencies in the event of triple flyfish. Your team won’t have the ink to deal with them and you will be much better off using all 6 of the shots to take them out nice and easy. Using this thought process has already saved me so many runs where I have inkjet available. Honestly general proper special usage is what differentiates a lot of my really good runs not just from wether or not they are completed but also record egg counts.
1. there is a Fly Fish already firing at the start of the round 2. there are 2 Fly Fish 3. 2 Steel Heads that refuse to show their weak point have already blocked off the only path to stop the Fly Fish and you cant shoot through them.🤣
I was overachiever and got a golden scale. I got wiped too. Also, for some reason even when I’m at professional 3 my crew completely ignores all the bosses, and all die because they let small fries
Tbh i only beat cohozuna 50 times so far after playing a lot of salmon run. I dont really care about rewards at this point. I just want to beat him and maybe get the badges of all stages at a time. Didnt get past 200 bc the hazard lvl is too hard for me still.
i would like to add that some weapons are better for shooting the coho over others because of dps (you can check in the main lobby by how quickly the unkillable dummy gets to 999) so weapons like ballpoint (paint mode), 52, 96, splash, shot, pro, all accell at this i would also like to say that 2 people shoot it and the other 2 grab eggs (this also only applies if the weapons are mobile enough to fight other things that aren't coho)
Many weapons have increased damage in Salmon Run (E-liter hiting for 600 damage on a full charge, for example) so this isn't as sound a strategy as one might think. They should put a dummy like that in the Salmon Run lobby.
I was actually able to get 10 scales from a loss once. I think it was because we dealt the last bit of damage after the "times up" tape covered the screen. Not a super important correction, but an interesting one.
8:19 These Genshin odds are correct, unless if you put the pity system into account. It gets way more crazy and complex when you involve the pity system.
My 3 tips, don’t play with randoms. Don’t play with randoms. Don’t play with randoms. Real tip, don’t even bother, scale rates are too awful at the moment, also wait for grizzco weekends
These rates are nothing compared to the drop rates of a Rathalos plate. Monster hunter has either taught me to be patient and put in the effort or has made me numb to the idea of grinding (especially since that’s half of the fun I find. Working for the end goal).
@Hikaru Not really a fair comparison. You usually only need a few Rathalos Plates or Mantles when crafting weapons/armors (unless you're trying to make like, every Rath weapon or something). The benefit that Rath Plates/Mantles have over Koho Scales is that you can exclusively go after Rath over and over again until you have the material amount you need. Versus Koho, where you need to play around 4+ matches to get him to appear, and then the fight begins. Then you need to pray you get more than just bronze scales, rinse, and repeat. With Rathalos, you just have to single him out and constantly hunt him until he is done. That shouldn't take very long. With Koho, you have to get through multiple RNG waves, win at said waves, get him to show up, and then hope you get the scales to drop, and you need FAR more scales of each type than Rath Plates/Mantles. It also doesn't help that you could win and get no silver or gold scales, but lose and get a silver or even a gold scale. Koho is WAY more RNG dependent.
While i do agree that playing with friends has a much better chance of defeating Cohozuna, playing with random isn't that bad, im on EGVP and all my random team have managed to mostly kill the king cause they all know their roles. I say in profreshional is where the struggle with randoms is really at
I was so excited to get my first Victory after many losses to then only have brown scales as a reward. I about cried, but I know the drop rates are super weird
Another TH-camr claimed that hitting his belly does more damage than hitting his back, though I don't know if that and hitting his head has different damage as well.
A tip I heard was to sort of treat the cohozuna as a giant moving egg basket.
I mean, yeah
Yeah, a basket you should use your crab tank on.
with like the quota of 100
To a degree, I guess, but that doesn't sound as good as it might seem.
No. You should still concentrate normal fire on cohozuna, just not at the exclusion of all else. Shoot cohozuna, use extra eggs on it, fire on lessers if threatened and eliminate bosses ASAP
Another factor to consider is on what tide level you fight the Cohozuna. Low to Normal tide is more managble, though a larger space tends to make people split apart instead of stick together.
High tide though will make you sweat for those scales.
High tide is definitely hard mode
@@VaskoGames When I was fighting the Cohozuna, I initially thought that it only high tides because the first three times I fought it has only been on high tides :(
On spawning grounds...
Though it certainly can be harder during high tide, it's worth noting that it is much easier to hit the cohozuna with the golden eggs since he cant travel as far away (just my experience). High tide really starts to be a problem when one or more flyfish(es?) spawn in to remind you of how limited your space is. Remember to use your specials especially if its on the flyfish lol.
@@loganrehnquist6752 Definitely true about landing more egg hits in a smaller space.
I actually find high tide easier since you don't have to travel much to get the eggs
My biggest problem is that teammates ignore other teammates that have a ton of eggs and often lead the giant coho salmon into difficult to reach areas. It’s best to keep it near the mountain of eggs instead of panicking and running away.
What's really weird about scale rates is that you can get golden scales even after a defeat, I've gotten more golden scales in this way.
If you go to the Splatoon wiki, it shows you the probability of scales. Higher hazard equals higher chance for silver and gold. The total amount of scales is determined by the amount of damage the team does, and how quickly you do it. You get additional scales for every 12.5% dmg done, and bonus scales depending on how much time is left.
The % chance of silver and gold are per scale. Each scale earned has the same % chance of being gold and such
Same we are just good losers
I get all bronze after a victory, teach me ur ways
This whole time i had thought it was rng based 💔
I've defeated Coho twice (once after time ran out so I got cheated out of a scale but got a gold still) I have gotten I think 3 golds and 9 total silver (almost enough for yellow suit :( )
One thing probebly worth mentioning is weapons that are "chonozuna killers" basically main weapons that pump out a ton of DPS and should focus on luring chonozuna into good positions and dealing consistent DPS over boss killing and egg firing.
Big examples including:
Splating class in general (hydra and ballpoint espcially)
Both Splatana's (melee charge slashes)
Dapples (dodge rolls hurt)
Sploosh
Some grizzoco weapons (G-splatana, G-stringer, G-charger)
Usually a rotation has at least one of these weapons or something slightly weaker like e-liter, glooga, 96, blob etc. There are DPS chart's if you want specifics.
Also don't wait on using crab do it at the very start of a wave less hectic then.
A fellow Hazmy viewer, by chance?
This is why I love the hydra
E-liter is one of, if not the best weapon for Cohozuna damage, one charged shot doesn't fall too short of Golden Egg damage
And for the crab tank, as long as you use it, the time you do doesn't matter too much, but it should be used when there are too many bosses
Im no professional when it comes to splatoon dps but i learned from a random coho encounter that dynamo and flingza (andnmore recently big swig if youre lucky) are good rollers for shavin off hp if you just so happen to get stuck against cohozuna for a bit
Month one everyone went hard on "throw eggs, don't waste time shooting him" and I've had a worse time fighting him ever since.
The worst is when he shows up and the game thinks the best thing ever is to give you the Undercover Brella.
It's happened to me, it can happen to you.
Or that awful Bamboo Charger.
@@nick3805 bamboo kinda busted in salmon run but it's dps for sure sucks, focus on splatting bosses with bamboo
"Okay, I need a powerful weapon to face this Cohozuna! Game, whaddya got for me?"
The game: Want a Nozzlenose? :D
@@ienjoyapple I mean, I can see tje vision with that weapon and it's certainly has it's uses, but it doesn't appear versatile enough for the mode in my opinion.
@@nick3805 true I don't think it's the absolute best and it definitely needs someone to paint for it but under the right situations I think it's a really great weapon for most situations
One situational thing that i saw a while ago on Twitter was that if you can find a way to roll into the Cohozuna many times in a row with a strong roller (like the dynamo) you can deal a decent amount of damage (Similar to those crazy overfishing waves during goldie seeking with a dynamo roller, look it up if you haven't heard of it). It's very tough to pull off though, since you need to position yourself between a wall so that you don't get pushed away and the Cohozuna as it targets you. But if you happen to have a roller during an xtrawave, keep it in mind.
Dynamo hits for 400 damage when rolling, so as you can imagine, many of those hits in rapid succession . . . .
Exactly! I found a clip of someone elses where they just got stuck against cohozuna with a dynamo it just kept bumping into it so. Its hp was draining like crazy and all bc of they couldnt move
“You might’ve thought you won but your mistake was getting me trapped against a wall. Now we’re both going to perish!”
I didn’t know about the auto targeting
Lillie tip: Don’t be like me and just fight at the entire round at the Cohozuna with your main, you might do damage but it little and the other boss will surround you.
Fire but don’t focus unless you’re close by.
Also make sure you have a good crew. My role is a mix of medic to help other to recover from splatted and have known for my dodging skills.
Also use your special, it the one thing I see repeatedly not be used.
*Lillie cries* I want to get the Pink or white suit but I can’t even get a yellow suit because I have 7 shiver shells…
i have a pink suit and im saving up for the black one
But if you have a hydra, GO SHRED THE COHUZUNA YOU HAVE SO MUCH DAMAGE.
Lillie tip sounds so wholesome. I need more Lillie tips in my life.
Er... Your role depends on the weapon you get, and really you should strive to be an adaptable jack of all trades at all times. Dodging is good, though- I think the skill that will make anyone instantly better at freelancing is learning how to stay alive no matter what
This heavily depends on your weapon. If you have any high dps weapons: hydra, heavy, dapples, reeflux (half charged shots surprisingly have very high dps) sploosh. Any weapon that can lay down high consistent damage should focus on absolutely nothing but firing at cohozuna unless another boss is in the way. The rest of the team should clear bosses and throw eggs. All those weapons do far more damage with the main weapon than you can get by egg hunting. Obviously if your team needs help, help them but you should spend every available moment firing at him.
A hydra alone can more or less solo him.
If you have any decent shooter, like splattershot or zap, you should also put a good bit of focus on him too
Salmon run is a game of priorities and managing the salmon AI, and pretty much everything in this guide further proves that. The fact there's exact times the boss super jumps and that luring is still a required strategy means everything in this mode can be optimized and perfected with enough planning.
Yeah, but 90% of the Salmon run players only focus on delivering eggs and when a really big horde in high tide arrives they keep delivering eggs while only one member fight against all the horde alone.
But yeah Prioritizing should be what players need to play, if the situation demands to fight you fight and if the situation is favorable for gathering eggs, then gather the eggs.
It’s funny how Cohozuna is the king fish when Flyfish are arguably far more powerful and more terrifying than the behemoth salmonid.
Also good luck fighting Cohozuna on high tide! Want a cherry on top? Max flyfish and a dash of small fries.
The egg cannon gives everyone a tool to help dealing with Flyfish . . .
The only problem is not enough people actually use it that way.
i fought cohozuna on high tide once on gone fission in profreshional 2 freelance
that entire shift i revived teammates 10 times and had 2 deaths
Always remember that explosher can take out flyfish
@Mochibii ! say it louder for those freelancers that dont know how to lure in normal waves
After months playing Salmon Run, I put Fly Fish lower on the tier list, they are annoying but blow off one launcher and they become a minor announce and no more spawn in. Stingers and Big Shots are FAR more dangerous and annoying. I even have noticed that Fish Sticks are actually the nost dangerous support, alongside Slamming Lids. They are weak but their support abilities make them extremely foolish to ignore. They are one of the immediate bosses one should kill or they give Flyfish an extremely higher chance of killing you. Less room to move, you die
The rewards for defeating him are abysmal anyway
This is the most frustrating part of Salmon Run. I absolutely love this part of the game, but the scale rewards are way off. If they just increased the scale output and made more prizes to choose from, it would solve a lot of the frustration. I rotate between ranked and salmon run and still struggle with saving up enough to get the top prizes/rewards.
That's why I'll be only happy with my green outfit, not only my favorite color, but the farm to at least get another one is unnecessary tedious and don't seems worth it besides flex
@@sr.r6574 I feel pressured to get those scales, gotta flex flex flex
Not getting splatted is also definitely important in order to successfully finish waves as well as for the extra wave, more important for sure on higher difficulties. It is equally as valuable as getting kills/splats. This is something that I think a lot of players still struggle with, same in ranked. How much will kills actually matter if the player in question also dies a lot? Finding the right balance between splatting and surviving is certainly the key here.
Thank You for all these great tips Mr Games, I will use these tips for the future.
Hopefully in your next Cohozuna Guide there will be less footage of me dead.
The best way to deal with cohozuna is to manage the amount of backup he has. The problem is, it's hard to do that on high tide spawning grounds with an angry Godzilla fish man
one thing i struggle with is timing and aiming specials and golden eggs at bosses, i wish there was a video out there showing exactly how to use each special for each boss the best
Noted!
golden eggs should pierce on overkill (like, if I shot a chum, the egg should continue through and deal 700 to the next thing it hits)
gold scales need to be more common, especially since they’re needed to upgrade the shop
As somone whos gotten 216+ Coho Wins, I do have some valuable tips!!!
Crab is the MOST VALUABLE DPS special against Coho. I practically shoot 100% of my shots at it. It shredss and takes a pretty big chunk out of Coho. All the other specials are pretty bad at attacking it directly, so you would rather prioritize taking out bosses with them.
ALWAYS have a Golden Egg on you when you can. Bosses do tend to come to you eventually if you give it time and you want a Golden Egg at the ready to throw when they come near you to take them out faster. (So basically I throw 2 eggs, then hold onto 1 for the next boss)
ALWAYS have at least ONE person (preferably the worker who has the highest DPS weapon) constantly shooting Coho at alll times to capitalize every valuable second you have. While the other 3 kill bosses for eggs.
Learn to Dodge Roll for invulnerability frames to avoid taking damage from Coho Belly slams.
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Oof my bad, I wrote all that before the 11:30 mark so, a few points were already mentioned haha
for crab tank, do i use the bomb shoot attack or the main one more?
I would want cohozuna to be a bit more common. 2 great ways without changing how many matches you need for the meter could be:
Meter not resetting after each shift. The resetting feels like a middle finger for not beating wave 3 and playing cohozuna as your last match of a session. Please Nintendo.
Guaranteed cohozuna when anybody's meter is full. Currently each full meter in a team increases cohozuna chance and 4 guarantees it. If this makes them too common then make the chances bigger and guarantee lower than currently
I ended up cutting this from the video, but I did have a segment about how frequently it appears and yep, in general you run into him once every 30-60 minutes, which is not very often at all... I feel like they did this so that even the hardcore salmon run players can have something to play for years later
@@VaskoGames yeah, i get wanting to have it be a rare thing but it feels a bit _too_ rare, it should be every 15-30 minutes i feel
“Watch out gamers I’ve committed a science” is vassko’s cahchfrase at this point
8:09 - I feel like its more similar to Genshin's artifact RNG than the probability of you getting a 5-Star character, because there you actually have a pity guarantee system (Every 90 wishes you're garenteed to get a 5-Star character, if the character you get is a standard character then you'll be garenteed to get the limited 5-Star character)
Its kinda like how most of the time when you farm for artifacts in Genshin, you get stats that you don't want or have no use for, like how in Salmon Run Cohozuna fights you'll get scales you don't want or have no use for and have a small chance to get what you actually want
This is exactly why I have almost every character at level 80, but only like 6 of them have artifacts that are good
A big thing is: if you have hydra splatting focus on the cohozuna, your shots do more dps than eggs will, same for if you have crab tank
Noted
HLM warrior here. Good video, but I would expand #3 to say that pretty much any downtime by anyone should be used to get a few hits in on the guy, especially on weapon sets that simply lack DpS. As in, control enemies first, and once they are controlled, deal chip damage to the main target. It makes a difference. It's easiest to do with long-ranged weapons because they don't have to move up to deal damage.
When I used Killer wail 5.1 very close to cohozuna, (Right up to it) it shredded the boss's damage. I recommend that if you have Killer wail 5.1, you should go right up to the boss and then activate it.
I would recommend Hazmie for anyone looking for advice on individual rotations for salmon run- they even point out which weapons are best for focusing Cohozuna when there is a weapon that does notably high damage to it
Another thing to keep in mind is that you can use your specials right at the start to hit the cohozuna and get rid of the bosses at the same time, since they generally spawn in right next to each other. If successful, you're not only efficient but it gives you time to wail on him with your main weapons for a few seconds undisturbed.
Whether or not to use your special right at the start is a quick call you need to make based on which bosses spawn and if your special can take them out while the chonky boy is there.
This mostly works for high and low tides, since you can immediately spot where they are spawning from. On mid tide it can take too long to spot them and then they are too spread out already for this.
However, using your specials early also gives you big momentum to start with, and the round ends when you drain the HP, not when the timer runs out, so it's generally a good idea.
There is little significance about winning an Xtrawave. The difference between a win by a second and a loss by a second is only one scale. The goal is not to win to the exclusion of anything else, it's to deal as much damage as possible as fast as possible.
I was stuck at 8 silver scales for at least a week's worth of rotations and only recently got the 2 i needed for my first different colored slop suit (I then proceeded to completely botch the next few jobs that I did for my 2nd super bonus and completely fail the next Cohozuna 😭) so thanks for the tips!
i think the absolute hardest part is playing freelance where you cant really communicate these tips/instructions to your teammates 😭 like even if i do all of these things, my teammates might not know what to do, and theres a high chance we’d still lose the cohozuna
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I remember being swarmed by glow flies and was confused because I normally never got targeted first but as I stopped to figure it out I got rushed by salmon bois and that's when it hit me that my team was doomed. ... my team ended in less than 10 seconds after I got wrecked
This video reminds me of when I first found your channel while looking for Salmon Run tips back in Spoon 2 days (wow, now that's weird to say!)
Great research as always!
I'm really glad you went over that the eggs can take out most other bosses, giving you a net gain in eggs.
I love that Cohozuna has no concrete strategy to beat it, it just enforces the idea of meeting this ultimate boss you cannot defeat. I fought him like 20 times and I have beaten him only once (it actually was yesterday)
It's interesting that the game doesn't let you demote yourself all the way down to Go-Getter, mainly because it's something my group has done as a challenge during Big Run (the challenge being: could we get ourselves back to VP before Big Run was over)
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One thing I do that I find helpful is utilize the fishsticks! Getting up high helps me clear out bosses and dead teammates. I also like popping my specials from up there, specifically the crab and jetpack specials. Unless a Maws pops up, being up on the pole keeps you free from the mobs on the ground that would swarm you and waste your special. Using a jetpack from the pole gives you extra height to attack from too!
One bit of advice with the jetpack is if the Zuna goes to jump while you're hitting it you can actually aim and hit him in mid air with the jetpack! No wasted shots!
You covered a lot, thx! Although, you did miss a few things, it shouldn’t be the one closest using their main more, it should the one with the highest dps weapon, every weapon rotation I check to see which has the highest dps, so if I get that weapon, I know whenever to focus on big boy or the bosses and chums.
Another thing is the tide and the map, some maps are better at high tide (all are basically) but getting normal or low tide on some maps are good too.
The main problem for me with cohozuna is not enough gold eggs and the limited timer for the chunky boy
This is actually so helpful, I struggle with cohozuna so much now I know why 😭 TYSM!!
This video actually made me learn a WHOLE lot regarding salmon and of course Cohozuna so I’ll be sure to keep a lot of this in mind! Thank you!!
The “ you’ve died more to cohozuna than glow flies” realization hits HARD
Some things to note are that one, he has a secret weak point, his belly, and two, he takes more egg damage if someone is attacking him.
one thing that's personally helped me with cohozunas is watching overfishers and how they deal with him. overfishers are the best of the best when it comes to salmon run, pumping out more eggs in a single wave than a lot of (lower ranked) players can in a whole shift. not only do they have a lot of good overall tips (that work much better in a group, most you shouldn't try solo) such as luring, how to deal with shore bosses + their eggs, etc. but they're especially insane with king salmonids, often times killing it way before that 30 second cut off for the most amount of scales. my personal favourite at the moment is brianthedrummer and his friends. they're insane overfishers, and hold the sockeye random rotation record at 241 eggs (and did another shift [244 eggs] during which brian had no voice and couldn't communicate past the in game options). watching their shifts and actually observing the strageties they use has made me a way better salmon runner. go watch brian and his fellow overfishers because they're insane.
I’ve been getting considerably more Cohozuna kills since making it into EVP than as a Profresh. I remember dreading the promotion too
Thanks for the video, the three tips are really helpful! I felt like they were something I should have known already, but didn't. Actually, I think I did know about the third one. But that's only because my first (of two) Cohozuna takedowns was helped along by my use of the mini splatling I'd been given to do some DPS on him. So I can back you up on that one.
All of your works are so helpful, Tysm, Vasko!!
Thank you for spending your time making such a great guide for us!
Also please use a booyah bomb/tristrike at the start of the match, it gives you a really good start and gets you set for the entire match
I didn't know that you can't kill it with just eggs alone. That was a really good tip!
So I've only encountered the cohozuna a mere handful of times and it's a big panic allll the time. I didn't even notice you can shoot the other boss salmonid with the eggs too. That's a tidal game changer
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This is insanely helpful, I rarely win cohozuna runs and I feel like I’m not getting anywhere with gear and banners 😫 I’m excited to try out these tips and keep them in mind
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The amount of effort you have put into this video is insane!! Great job :DD
Time to never see a golden scale until they buff these odds:/
The best method I've seen and done is one player focuses on leading Cohozuna around while the other three focus on killing bosses and pilling eggs up. Now with this the team needs to be close enough to eachother to help or switch roles when needed. During that time make sure to hit Coho with those golden eggs and NOT just pile them up, the one leading him can grab eggs too. Many players NEED to remember to shoot cohozuna with their main weapon, do not be afraid too. Honestly Coho isn't that dangerous outside how his health and mass. His bellyflop will kill you but his slam isn't always an instant kill. You can even get him stuck in a loop if he is following you and you go up a Fish Stick tower, everytime he tries to attack you you can jump over it. Your weapon will do more damage than you think even if weak. Small damage is better than no damage at all. And with damage, CONSTANTLY attack and damage him. Yes dealing with other Salmonids is vital but every amount of damage done adds up, like saving coins and taking them to the bank. Besides Big Shots, Stingers, or Fly Fish, never waste your time at the shore unless you have chosen to lead Coho there to bombard him with golden eggs. Once you have lowered his health to about, maybe the 10 to 20% margin, this is the time where the team together needs to focus on attacking Coho with their main weapons especially when the time could be around 20 to 30 seconds left. At that point, focusing on golden eggs is a gamble but any left to use helps. Every time I've won the extrawave or was about too, his health was low and we began to all shoot him with our mains. Coho is easy to dodge, he doesn't hurt you unless he does an attack. Your weapons that rotation do make a difference but I've found that the methods I've used will work no matter the weapon combos. Obviously Grizzco weapons will kill him easier and will certain other weapons. Seriously, be close enough together, don't run off far away to the shore, constantly damage him, listen to teammates(use voice chat if friends or discord if real friends), kill bosses and have your coho guide lead him near them, know your surroundings so you don't get trapped, have an escape route, shoot him with main when his health is low, and you will more often than not win. And yes the scales you get are determined by Time, Damage, Level, and I've noticed how many times you got Splatted. When I was Splatted less I got more scales, I've even got where I get all three types at the end.
Awesome video, I'm going to share it when people ask for cohozuna tips. A lot of good info here!
A really good science has been committed here.
Building upon what was said here, Generally the player staying close to Cohozuna, guiding his movement while attacking him (the term for this is Kiting) should be one with a higher DPS weapon.
Here are some examples: either of the Splatanas, any of the Splatlings, E-liter, .96 Gal, .52 Gal, Bloblober, Splat Brella, Dapple Dualies, Splat Dualies, Sploosh-o-matic, the Grizzco Stringer, or the Grizzco Splatana.
Some of the slower weapons, like Hydra Splatling, are harder to do this with, but can have an IMMENSE payoff. (A tip for these slower weapons is to keep an egg on you, using it on lessers as needed to keep yourself alive. I did this in the recent Snipewriter rotation, and it worked quite well, as I saved myself multiple times, contributing to us winning)
This is good advice. I never thought of keeping an egg on me when I had a slower weapon. Will do that now!
My last round with Cohozuna I got landed with the paintbrush. I occasionally slapped him while trying to keep paths open for everyone, especially the target player, and controlling the lessers to the best of my ability (I’m not a paintbrush main). I died at the very end but we did it.
@@hikaru9624 that sounds like a good supportive strategy, actually.
I sure wish my teammates would tend to actually try to get eggs instead of just trying to get Cohozuna to get them pregnant
“Too many deaths by chum.” I felt that in my heart and soul.
I was today years old when I learned it was possible to defeat the king samonind
Hazmy, in their community posts, uploads guides for rotations, including difficulty, what weapons should focus on, and usually tips applicable to extra waves
I've played a TON on salmon run on splat3 (enough to get the yellow and pink suit) and I remember all the times my team managed to kill conozuna
TWICE, JUST TWICE
"dont die lul" like no shit?
The reason I fail at the king salmon is because I don’t have the game.
This actually made me laugh.
I’m so close to owning one of everything in the salmon shop, all I need left are the x999 silver scale banner and the x100 gold scale Goldie decoration, it’s such a grind 😤
I wonder if the devs are taking note of the fact that flyfish are killing so many salmon runs that don’t have inkjet available.
If you have inkjet do not use it except in absolute emergencies in the event of triple flyfish. Your team won’t have the ink to deal with them and you will be much better off using all 6 of the shots to take them out nice and easy. Using this thought process has already saved me so many runs where I have inkjet available.
Honestly general proper special usage is what differentiates a lot of my really good runs not just from wether or not they are completed but also record egg counts.
1. there is a Fly Fish already firing at the start of the round
2. there are 2 Fly Fish
3. 2 Steel Heads that refuse to show their weak point have already blocked off the only path to stop the Fly Fish and you cant shoot through them.🤣
I was overachiever and got a golden scale. I got wiped too. Also, for some reason even when I’m at professional 3 my crew completely ignores all the bosses, and all die because they let small fries
Me started playing solmon run: Cohozuna is just splash down whats next?
Horrorboros: WHO SUMMONED ME>:)
Is it ok if you can make a video to explain the special wave and what are the chance of them happening please?
I need a Horrorborus guide now too please this helps so much
Tbh i only beat cohozuna 50 times so far after playing a lot of salmon run. I dont really care about rewards at this point. I just want to beat him and maybe get the badges of all stages at a time. Didnt get past 200 bc the hazard lvl is too hard for me still.
i would like to add that some weapons are better for shooting the coho over others because of dps (you can check in the main lobby by how quickly the unkillable dummy gets to 999) so weapons like ballpoint (paint mode), 52, 96, splash, shot, pro, all accell at this i would also like to say that 2 people shoot it and the other 2 grab eggs (this also only applies if the weapons are mobile enough to fight other things that aren't coho)
Many weapons have increased damage in Salmon Run (E-liter hiting for 600 damage on a full charge, for example) so this isn't as sound a strategy as one might think. They should put a dummy like that in the Salmon Run lobby.
I was actually able to get 10 scales from a loss once. I think it was because we dealt the last bit of damage after the "times up" tape covered the screen. Not a super important correction, but an interesting one.
I can't wait for the sequel to this video, "The 3 Reasons You Fail At Life".
tysm for the tips vasko games
I did not know that the jumps were timed. Great info.
WAIT YOU GET A SPECIAL?! ive been saving them this whole time
“Why you suck at Salmon Run in Splatoon 3”
Personally I don't think regular salmonids should spawn during an cohozuna wave, but that's just me.
8:19 These Genshin odds are correct, unless if you put the pity system into account. It gets way more crazy and complex when you involve the pity system.
The real trick to beating cohozuna is using the skeleton guy after downloading using the link in the description for 9 morbillion diamonds
Last time I did cohozuna everyone had grizzco sloshers. Safe to sad that ended quick
My 3 tips, don’t play with randoms.
Don’t play with randoms.
Don’t play with randoms.
Real tip, don’t even bother, scale rates are too awful at the moment, also wait for grizzco weekends
These rates are nothing compared to the drop rates of a Rathalos plate. Monster hunter has either taught me to be patient and put in the effort or has made me numb to the idea of grinding (especially since that’s half of the fun I find. Working for the end goal).
@Hikaru Not really a fair comparison. You usually only need a few Rathalos Plates or Mantles when crafting weapons/armors (unless you're trying to make like, every Rath weapon or something). The benefit that Rath Plates/Mantles have over Koho Scales is that you can exclusively go after Rath over and over again until you have the material amount you need. Versus Koho, where you need to play around 4+ matches to get him to appear, and then the fight begins. Then you need to pray you get more than just bronze scales, rinse, and repeat.
With Rathalos, you just have to single him out and constantly hunt him until he is done. That shouldn't take very long. With Koho, you have to get through multiple RNG waves, win at said waves, get him to show up, and then hope you get the scales to drop, and you need FAR more scales of each type than Rath Plates/Mantles. It also doesn't help that you could win and get no silver or gold scales, but lose and get a silver or even a gold scale. Koho is WAY more RNG dependent.
While i do agree that playing with friends has a much better chance of defeating Cohozuna, playing with random isn't that bad, im on EGVP and all my random team have managed to mostly kill the king cause they all know their roles. I say in profreshional is where the struggle with randoms is really at
Got 20 gold scales currently spent like 10 all from random matches.
vasko, ready for tricolour 20 mins till its time
What’s the track playing at 4:10?
What would the chohozuna's casual nae would be?
I can only go up with a 0% win rate after battling Cohozuna at least 12 times
I'm in the same boat, but we'll beat the big boi someday! We've got to get lucky at some point, right? :D
I was so excited to get my first Victory after many losses to then only have brown scales as a reward. I about cried, but I know the drop rates are super weird
I got you guys join me! Gold scales for everyone.
Could you do a guided on how to defeat the horroroboros?
Ever fought cohozuna right when a teammate disconnected ? That’s what it feels like to drive a Buick.
Amazing video, thanks bro
THE SMALLFRYS CAME AND SPLATED WHEN I WAS 1 SHOT 1!!!!!!!!!!! SHOTTTTTTTTTTT
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Thanks for the tips :D
Another TH-camr claimed that hitting his belly does more damage than hitting his back, though I don't know if that and hitting his head has different damage as well.
Top reason you fail at cohozuna: high tide
Thanks I hope this helps me
I feel like most players don't even use the eggs on the king.