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Hey Knox! Love your videos, amazing reactions to some of my favourite rappers. And now ERB? So happy. You should watch Thor vs Zeus 😃 and Hannibal vs Jack the Ripper 👌 two amazing rap battles. If you want to see one where noone wins, watch the two titans Theodore Roosevelt vs Winston Churchill. Peace and love brother
Yo I love these ERB breakdowns, always excellent and I'd love to see more. Thor vs. Zeus is real good, I think Stevie Wonder vs. Wonder Woman is some of the best wordplay they got, ditto for James bond vs. Austin Powers. Also Steven Spielberg vs. Alfred Hitchcock if you're into film
It’s Aragorn 😭😭 not Eragon! Tho it’s one of the best books ever!! I would say the Darth Vader Trilogy! Also on Chaos Theory, I get lonely has been my favorite song! I’m going to buy merch from you on my pay day!!! Keep up the amazing work my guy!
Man this series is amazing! Thank you for all of your hard work put in over the years and for giving us all content like this. Much love and respect 🙏🔥
Tolkien didn't even want to be a writer. His great love was linguistics and he wanted to create living languages. But for them to truly be *living,* they needed a world in which to live. So he didn't create the languages for the world; he created the world for the languages.
I also imagine creating the world of Middle Earth was subconsciously a coping mechanism after the Great War. Back in those days, PTSD wasn’t identified and was known as Shell Shock. They simply thought it was temporary.
@@dancingcarapace They also thought that it was a physical thing, kinda like a concussion, product of being constantly exposed to the shockwaves from blasts of artillery fire. It was hard to explain at the time how it affected brave, mentally stable people if it was "just a psychological phenomenon"
@@Ragnarok2kx true, hence the name Shell Shock. They thought it was caused by the artillery shells and not watching your friends get ripped to ribbons by machine guns in the trenches
@@dancingcarapace You can see how the idea of a simple battle of simple good vs unfathomable evil could be comforting to a veteran of a war like WWI where everyone was guilty and there was no real reason for it to be necessary.
Don't forget Tolkien's first battle diss...when he appears in the "intro" he removed the One Ring and put it in his pocket, a reference to Riddles in the Dark and the fact he didn't need its power to win
CS Lewis wasn't a fantasy writer but Tolkien challenged him to write a fantasy novel and then he wrote Chronicles of Narnia. They were really good friends
Hey bro, you saw this fantasy thing I wrote? Do one too. Nah. I don't think I'm good with that, sorry Common, do it Kay. *Writes an age breaker of a book*
That's totally incorrect. Lewis was a fantasy writer, ever since he was at a train station, and picked up a copy of George MacDonald's "Phantasies." Which he then later introduced Tolkien to. You cannot understand either Lewis or Tolkien, or W.H. Auden, or Lewis Carroll, or Madeline L'Engle, or Neil Gaiman without reading George MacDonald.
Also L. Frank Baum, the writer of The Wizard of Oz was heavily inspired by MacDonald. So, yeah. It was MacDonald that made Lewis into a fantasy writer, not Tolkien.
"Got my children making million off my Silmarillions" is a much more literal reference too. The Silmarils were three flawless gems, and Tolkien has three big stories that are still hugely valuable to this day, The Hobbit, LotR and The Silmarillion itself. His kids are still making huge money off of his three legendary creations.
imagine being such a famous author that your children's children will have enough money to live in the lap of luxury and still have plenty left over for the next generations to do the same
@@gandalf_thegrey might have our point was more that they dont need to lift a finger to live comfortably because tolkien's work is so famous we werent saying they were lazy just that they could, if they wanted to, not work a day in their lives
Tolkien has been accused of being an escapist writer. And he shot back, yeah. That’s the point, we don’t need to make more sorrows and woes. Thames are supposed to inspire not bring down
My argument against this is the fact that unrealistic elements in fantasy is the world itself, not the logic of the events. It’s UNREALISTIC for those events to happen in a world like that
"All your bad guys die and good guys survive! we can tell what's gonna to happen by page and age five!" *Sad Boromir and Finrod Felagund, Turin, and general SIlmarillion noises*
It's all fun and giggles. One of the reasons George RR Martin kills off characters once in a while is because of how he loved the shock of Boromir dying. One of the most traditional "warrior" characters, setup with a perfect redemption arc trying to be better and dies so early in the trilogy.
A small one you missed with "you can't reach this fellow, shit I'm too towering" is that Tolkien was the Merton Professor of English Language at the University of Oxford and also Fellow of Pembrook College, Oxford and Fellow of Merton College, Oxford. So when he says "fellow" he doesn't just mean it like "look at that fellow over there" but it's an actual academic title.
"you want a war, George? Welcome to Shir-Iraq." This is an even better play on words than it seems initially because guess who was president of the US when they declared war on "terrorism" and sent troops into Iraq? GEORGE. W. Bush.
for joker vs pennywise he needs some serious history on that one. there is just so many little bits and everything throughout the entire song. like big brain raps.
Beauty and the Beast was a rather brilliant series from the late 80s, staring Linda Hamilton and Ron Perlman. Martin wrote some 14 episodes for the series.
Tolkien: I'm numbers One AND Two; you're under Fifty Shades of Grey!" *FLAWLESS VICTORY* *FINISH HIM* Tolkien: "You're a pirate; you even stole my R.R." *FATALITY* *RETURN OF THE KING*
what i love about this is it starts with martin saying "there a new literary lord in the ring" and ends with Tolken "every time i battle it's return of the king" it feels very well rounded.
Yeah, that's how Prime got to make that bullshit show, that ignores everything. His grandkids, didn't give a shit about protecting his father's legacy, and sold it for money so Amazon made a lotr in name only. That shitty show would have never been allowed under Christopher.
look, i don't know about some, but personally, I LOVE having the backstory of every tree branch. it adds to the fact that Tolkien wasn't writing a story, he was creating a world, and that world had lore, DEEP lore, and he was so in depth that the immersion level was insanely, high.
And so fell the tree branch of Gil Guriel, born during the chaos of the Second Age and hardened during the fires of the Angarrian Plains. From that branch sprouted but two flowers, one of pink and pale green hue which adorned the hair of a ruby haired shepherdess before she was betrothed to Eduin, Third Cousin to the King of Lebannin. The other flower grew grey and black as if corrupted by malign forces, but came into prominence early in the reigns of the High Stewards as only its sap could bring relief to the fever that ravished that land, brought there by a foul curse from a fallen Numenoran artifact, the eldritch want Syzibor forged during the First Age by...
One thing I just noticed is that with the Shire-raq = Iraq wordplay, there was another layer of wordplay there because George W. Bush was the one who pushed for war in Iraq thus leading to "You want a war George"
Maybe you did not notice, that it looks like a lecture from a professor Tolkien to Martin when Martin sits in a chair. The gestures of Tolkien are at least for me close to a teacher or professor who explains the topic. Also George is reading "The Fellowship of the King" before Tolkiens first part starts. Love your breakdowns of the ERB and I love to see more. I really like the big ones like Rasputin vs Stalin or Ivan the Terrible vs Alexander the Great
The last line is also great because it mirrors the end of Martin's first verse. In response to Martin calling himself the "literary lord in the ring," Tolkien calls himself the King.
Knox, you are about to become a legend in the ERB reaction world after seeing your first three reactions. A couple of fun facts: Tolkien did study Icelandic and used it e.g. around the Rohirrim and the Dwarves and he had an Icelandic babysitter in the 30's that did give some nice insight in their family life when she was interviewed in her old age. Greetings from Iceland.
And he learned Finnish so he could read Kalevala in the original language, Turin Turambar's story in Silmarillion is based on the story of Kullervo from Kalevala, and one of his languages, Quenya, is based on Finnish. And if you want dark, Turin's story, as well as some other stories in Silmarillion, are pretty dark even if you compare them to GOT (I'm only familiar with the series though, and haven't seen all of it, I have had enough darkness in my life to not enjoy reading "realistic" all that much). When the Finnish translation of Lord of the Rings was published I remember a magazine article claiming that he had read it, and given the ultimate compliment to the translator, claiming that he had actually found the translation better than his own original writing. Frankly, I don't know if that is true or not, I have not been able to find anything about that online and no longer even remember where that story was published, I was a young teen when I read it and that was a (mumble) of decades ago, but I do have a fairly clear seeming memory of it. And maybe if he said he said it just to be polite, but he seemed to like Finnish as a language.
One slight correction. The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and The Return of the King are in fact NOT books in and of themselves. They are volumes of ONE book, called The Lord of the Rings. The reason it was split into three volumes is because of the publisher and economic reasons. Its original intent was for it to be one of two volumes, with the Silmarillion being the second volume, but the publisher did like that because the time it would take and economic reasons. That was why he is #1 (The Hobbit) and #2 (The Lord of the Rings) in book sales, the reference in the battle, because Lord of the Rings is in fact ONE book. The Lord of the Rings is often sold as a Trilogy so it's numbers are bit more obscured, but each of them are estimated at over 150 million copies sold each. Followed third by Harry Potter and the Philosopher's stone. Martin's entire franchise has only sold 90 million copies, and Fifty Shades of Grey sold 15.2 million copies as ONE book. Older books have troubles tracking actual book sales, because tracking of book sales is a VERY modern thing, so sales of things like Don Quixote are at best wildly speculative estimations. I've never even SEEN a copy of Don Quixote, let alone read it. Whereas you cannot throw a rock without hitting The Lord of the Rings books or movies. As far as the Beauty and Beast reference, it refers to an old 1987 CBS fantasy romance series called Beauty and the Beast, he was a writer on that show for all three seasons.
@@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox That’s exactly what he’s pointing out... Older books are more of an estimate than actual sales numbers. He’s saying those older numbers can be wildly inaccurate because they’re estimations, and because of the fact that he’s never seen a copy of Don Quixote but he’s seen tons of copies of LotR it would imply that LotR has probably sold more copies. And it’s the same for me, I’ve personally never seen a copy of Don Quixote either but I’ve seen a lot of LotR, and I even own a set of the LotR books. I have no clue how they do the estimations for the amount of copies sold for older books and I never really pay attention to that stuff anyways. It just doesn’t matter to me.
The very foundation of modern fantasy was actually laid by Tolkien. Almost every standard fantasy race and mechanic can be traced back to his works. Edit: Modern Western Fantasy
Martin playing the RPG on his computer is a reference to how he writes. Martin uses an ancient text program that only runs on DOS. He does this because he claims modern word processing programs interfere too much with his writing. (Spell and grammar check, page formatting, etc.)
I was hoping for the day you start reacting to ERB. Check Oppenheimer vs Thanos and Joker vs Pennywise that ones are dope! Love from Argentina Knox, keep doing like this!
"I will fight you on the comments". I inhaled a mouth full of beer and went into a coughing fit that made my neighbor come check on me. So fucking funny, I'm loving this!
“All your bad guys die your good guys survive” cough cough silmarilion... also Turin, even then good didn’t beat evil, evil brought about its own doom (if not for the corruption of Gollum, the ring would never be destroyed) “Chance and anarchy” in Tolkien’s works there is no chance
The point for Game of Thrones being more mainstream could actually be given to Tolkien because his work and the slow but steady dissemination of the LOTR series through-out the world that finally resulted in the billion dollar successes of the movies arguably paved the way for GoT to become so widely accepted in the first place. R. R. Martin was so visible because he was standing on the shoulders of one of the biggest fantasy giants to date.
Thats the thing about "going too deep" though, Tolkien, DID create a universe. Martin just took what we know from history and mythos and built a world, Tolkien, built, a, UNIVERSE. Even the spoken languages in a Song of Ice and Fire are just rehashes of languages we have today, fucking Dothraki is predominantly Maori and Samoan FFS!, whats Elvish and the Black Speech based on? NOTHING, theyre ENTIRELY new languages! One could argue that going too deep is too far, but i have nothing but admiration for that kind of dedication to your craft, and thats why Martin will NEVER be equal to Tolkien.
Of course Tolkien created a universe - as you call it - but actually a creation myth based on the Norse sagas, because England doesn't have such a thing. He drew heavily on the Finnish creation myth Kalevala, the Ring of the Nibelungs/Siegfried, Beowulf and Icelandic saga literature. Tolkien also drew on stories from classical Greek mythology and heroic epic poetry, such as the Homeric Iliad or Plato's depiction of the sinking of Atlantis, as well as various fairy tale motifs as written down by the Brothers Grimm. The Children of Hurin (one of my favourite Tolkien books) has many parallels to Kullervo (The Story of Kullervo). Túrin kills his comrade Beleg, marries his sister Nienor and all this while fleeing from an imposed fate. When the two realise that they are siblings, Nienor throws herself into a river and Túrin into his sword. Their father Húrin has to watch everything and cannot intervene. That Elvish and the Black Language of Mordor are not based on any worldly language is also wrong. Elvish has two important dialects that have been developed in the most detail. Sindarin and Quenya. While Quenya was not the first language Tolkien invented (he had attempted a further development of Gothic, for instance, before that), it was the first of those languages he later integrated into his mythology. In 1912, Tolkien discovered the Finnish language. He was so impressed by the experience of reading the Finnish national epic Kalevala that he decided to invent his own language based on Finnish phonetics, which he found particularly beautiful. Unlike its successor Sindarin, Quenya can be described as an inflectional language inspired by Finnish. It knows ten cases and four numerals and thus has more pronounced declensions than the original Indo-European language. However, with five tenses, no distinct passive voice, and modes indicated only syntactically or by particles, the verbal morphology is very limited compared to Indo-European. Sindarin was the language of the Sindar (Grey Elves, Teleri) in the First Age and later spread among the other Elves. Tolkien left less written material on Sindarin than on Quenya, so only the basic features of Sindarin can be clarified today. J. R. R. Tolkien liked the Welsh language. Some grammatical and especially phonological features of Sindarin can be traced back to Welsh. For example, the anlaut mutations, which are an innovation of the island Celtic languages within the Indo-European language family. However, the language can certainly be described as "real", since Sindarin also has a predecessor language from which all its roots can be derived. I hope this has helped you a little! :)
I'm really glad you caught that last bar. I missed it every time until it was pointed out to me, but it's honestly one of the sneakiest, clever bars I heard in awhile.
YOU MISSED SOMETHING!!! "you're a Pirate, you even stoll my RR", when he said this, his fingers were wrapped together... thats the sign language for pirate, because it's like a hook on the hand, AND it looks like your fingers make a lower case 'r'. Edit: I beleive the beauty and the beast line is in reference to George rr Martin cutting his 'television teeth' on episodes of the beauty and the beast live action series that was done.
I'd also recommend Thanos vs Oppenheimer. Again, a very one-sided battle but one of their best produced and best performed videos/songs. So many good ERBs I've forgotten about. lol
I feel like this whole battle is unfair as hell. Like no offense to GRRM, he's one of my favorite authors, but Tolkien was quite literally the big daddy of the entire fantasy genre.
One of the reasons that game of thrones is so different from lord of the rings is because Martin knew that he couldn’t match what lord of the rings achieved in that style of fantasy
The Renegades React Channel had stated this too. They're not contemporaries at all. C.S Lewis, would have been a better match for Tolkien, but the pairing had to make sense in an easily understandable way. So it had to be Tolkien and Martin. They could tried with one of Martin's contemporaries though, since has a lot of them, but are less blockbuster Hollywood like him. You got Gaiman, Prachett, etc. Hell, they coulda even tried with Rowling. But it still wouldn't have worked as well as the matching "R.R."s on their names during the intros.
Knox This was easily the best breakdown of this battle I've ever seen man good stuff!! keep up the grind man you are gonna blow up heavy man mili coming to you
Cool dude, im personally definitely digging these breakdowns. Tolkien preferred winner for sure. Thanos vs Oppenheimer or Dr Suess vs Shakespeare. Also check out Sage Francis/NonProphets.
Loving these breakdowns mate, you've earned a new sub here. I'd like to nominate Joker vs Pennywise for you to check out, you'll be there all day breaking down those bars.
Ah, Yes, J.R.R Tolkien vs We Skeem, My favorite rap battle from ERB. Two men whom I respect and ERB doing this battle is going back to their roots of choosing battle match-ups randomly
Honestly I think Hitler won the majority in those ERB's, only losing the final one, and the only reason people say different is cause he's Hitler. Vader had next to no good diss' in the first two battles while Hitler had at least two each battle, until the third where I think they just intentionally gave him not-as-good raps so they could lay the whole thing to rest and say Vader won, plus at that point Hitler had so little to diss Vader with, while it feels like they left the best diss against Hitler for that last battle.
led zeppelin reference, here are some lyrics from Ramble on .... "How years ago in days of old When magic filled the air 'T was in the darkest depths of Mordor I met a girl so fair But Gollum, and the evil one Crept up and slipped away with her Her, her, yeah Ain't nothing I can do, no"
Not sure if someone else mentioned it yet, but when Tolkien says "you even stole my R.R." his hand is signing the letter "R" in sign language. At least American Sign Language anyway. I feel like that can easily be missed and I thought it was cool.
I can't believe it took me so long to find your channel. I've literally spent all day watching so many of your breakdowns and now I see why you get all the respect you receive and deserve.
I really doubted Martin could’ve won this. He had some great lines but Tolkien’s reputation just murders him. It’s like Oppenheimer vs Thanos, Thanos might have done far worse but Oppenheimer was a real dude, he almost got guaranteed the win.
You missed the fact that when he said "You even stole my R.R." he was using the ASL sign for the letter R. Nice subtle move for those of us who catch such things.
Love your breakdowns, I found you through your coverage of the eminem vs MGK video and I just so happen to also LOVE ERB anf you've covered most of my favorites so this playlist is a perfect combo, I cant wait to check some of your stuff out. Just one note on this video, GRRM has NOT brought Jon Snow back, DandD did for the show but the last book, that's still a cliffhanger and none of the prerelease chapters have given away Jon's fate. Most suspect he will be resurrected, but it probably won't be that simple, he might be like lady stone heart or something.
Oh, snap. I really didn't expect another ERB reaction. I was having a shitty situation at the moment but your reactions has put a smile on my face. Great breakdowns, Knox. 💪💪 Speaking of next reactions, well, a lot of people are recommending Joker Vs Pennywise but I'm gonna throw a wrench and I want to see you react to Ronald McDonald Vs The Burger King.
I love how at the very beginning G.R.R.M. says he’s the “lord of the ring”, then at the very end J.R.R.T. responds to that by saying every time he battles it’s “return of the king”. It’s a very well done one up in my opinion
DUUUDE seeing you nerding out is just so amazing cozz you need a lot of knowledge to be an amazing rapper and what can give you more ammo than fantasy lore and reference man that's just some deep knowledge that anyone who will catch it will love it 🤘🏽❤️
You missed the "you went too deep" line. It's a double, both dissing Tolkien's insane detailing and referencing the dwarves digging "too deep" and awaking the Balrog. And, yes, Martin was a screenwriter on the Beauty and the Beast TV show with Linda Hamilton Ron Perlman.
I thought I've read everything about how deep these battles are but DAAAAMN you helped me see and appreciate so much more wordplay. Also that sample at the start spoke to me man! I'm definitely checking it out. I hope you're doing awesome these days!
Amazing job with the breakdown Knox! Didn’t notice until watching the breakdown: when Tolkien does the “RR” line, he’s signing “R” in American Sign Language. Super cleaver.
in reference to the beauty and the beast line Martin wrote a fantasy, romance show called beauty and the beast before the disney film. or something like that
@@Mitwadus There was this 1980's tv shows starring Ron Perlman and Linda Hamilton. George R. R. Martin was co-written 14 episodes www.imdb.com/title/tt0092319/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm
I appreciate this breakdown Knox. I've tried reading the Lord of the Rings books, and never could before, but it's been several years and I didn't know Tolkien did that much for his world building. I'll give them another shot
I will say that they take a bit to get into, I've rest them all many times, if you can stick with it for a little bit, I promise it will change your life. Amazing books.
@@jessejackson7486 I'll keep that in mind, I'll trust you though, haven't given me a reason not to lol. Should I read from Hobbit and on since that's technically the start, or right into the main story?
@@ianorchard7178 most definitely. The hobbit makes a huge impact on the trilogy. On top of that, the extra content that the books have will stun and amaze you at times. You'll love it once you get going. The hobbit is the best place to start, it helps pull you in while also being easier to broach into. Good reading!
@@jessejackson7486 Awesome! Thanks for the advice and inspiration. I'm currently reading the Witcher books but once I finish those, I'll give it another shot and will do my best to finish them all. Take care!
The tree branch thing is a double edged sword. For me it bored me before I could even figure out the plot of the thousand page book. Which had a bunch of poems? Yeah, lets say I never fully read the books
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Hey Knox! Love your videos, amazing reactions to some of my favourite rappers. And now ERB? So happy. You should watch Thor vs Zeus 😃 and Hannibal vs Jack the Ripper 👌 two amazing rap battles. If you want to see one where noone wins, watch the two titans Theodore Roosevelt vs Winston Churchill. Peace and love brother
Adolf Hitler vs Darth Vader trilogy!.
vlad the impaler vs count dracula
Yo I love these ERB breakdowns, always excellent and I'd love to see more. Thor vs. Zeus is real good, I think Stevie Wonder vs. Wonder Woman is some of the best wordplay they got, ditto for James bond vs. Austin Powers. Also Steven Spielberg vs. Alfred Hitchcock if you're into film
It’s Aragorn 😭😭 not Eragon! Tho it’s one of the best books ever!! I would say the Darth Vader Trilogy! Also on Chaos Theory, I get lonely has been my favorite song! I’m going to buy merch from you on my pay day!!! Keep up the amazing work my guy!
Nice breakdown my man. Thanks for watching.
Man this series is amazing! Thank you for all of your hard work put in over the years and for giving us all content like this. Much love and respect 🙏🔥
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@@kingclint2382 Nothing to see here just 4 legends reading each others comment's
@@fidel_manuwa1827 us mortals shouldnt be here
Ah! Sempai noticed you. Congrats, man!
Tolkien didn't even want to be a writer. His great love was linguistics and he wanted to create living languages. But for them to truly be *living,* they needed a world in which to live. So he didn't create the languages for the world; he created the world for the languages.
he was also a professor in medieval languages.
I also imagine creating the world of Middle Earth was subconsciously a coping mechanism after the Great War. Back in those days, PTSD wasn’t identified and was known as Shell Shock. They simply thought it was temporary.
@@dancingcarapace They also thought that it was a physical thing, kinda like a concussion, product of being constantly exposed to the shockwaves from blasts of artillery fire. It was hard to explain at the time how it affected brave, mentally stable people if it was "just a psychological phenomenon"
@@Ragnarok2kx true, hence the name Shell Shock. They thought it was caused by the artillery shells and not watching your friends get ripped to ribbons by machine guns in the trenches
@@dancingcarapace You can see how the idea of a simple battle of simple good vs unfathomable evil could be comforting to a veteran of a war like WWI where everyone was guilty and there was no real reason for it to be necessary.
Don't forget Tolkien's first battle diss...when he appears in the "intro" he removed the One Ring and put it in his pocket, a reference to Riddles in the Dark and the fact he didn't need its power to win
Good observation man. Seriously, watching knox and these comments, really gives another dimension to the ERB..
not gonna lie, I thought I was the only that noticed that. Excellent eyes my friend.
Nice catch!
Also a reference to The Hobbit, when Bilbo Baggins confronted Golem: "What's in my pocket?"
I noticed him removing the ring, but I didn't know it was a diss. cool
CS Lewis wasn't a fantasy writer but Tolkien challenged him to write a fantasy novel and then he wrote Chronicles of Narnia. They were really good friends
I knew they were friends, but didn't know that story. So basically one of my favorite series as a kid was basically written on a dare? Cool.
The santa bit of the lion the witch and the wardrobe almost ruined their friendship
Hey bro, you saw this fantasy thing I wrote? Do one too.
Nah. I don't think I'm good with that, sorry
Common, do it
Kay.
*Writes an age breaker of a book*
That's totally incorrect. Lewis was a fantasy writer, ever since he was at a train station, and picked up a copy of George MacDonald's "Phantasies." Which he then later introduced Tolkien to. You cannot understand either Lewis or Tolkien, or W.H. Auden, or Lewis Carroll, or Madeline L'Engle, or Neil Gaiman without reading George MacDonald.
Also L. Frank Baum, the writer of The Wizard of Oz was heavily inspired by MacDonald. So, yeah. It was MacDonald that made Lewis into a fantasy writer, not Tolkien.
"Got my children making million off my Silmarillions" is a much more literal reference too. The Silmarils were three flawless gems, and Tolkien has three big stories that are still hugely valuable to this day, The Hobbit, LotR and The Silmarillion itself.
His kids are still making huge money off of his three legendary creations.
imagine being such a famous author that your children's children will have enough money to live in the lap of luxury and still have plenty left over for the next generations to do the same
Didn't his children finished one of his works? So they don't just make money of it, but have a part in writing too? Or do I recall wrong?
@@gandalf_thegrey might have
our point was more that they dont need to lift a finger to live comfortably because tolkien's work is so famous
we werent saying they were lazy just that they could, if they wanted to, not work a day in their lives
@@mrroboshadow Oh I didn't want to come of as if I wanted to put words in your mouths, I'm sorry.
It was just a genuine question :D
@@gandalf_thegrey oh no worries
i was just clearing up what i meant, didnt mean to come across as defensive or stand off-ish
In the "stole my R.R." section, Tolkien is flashing the American Sign Language symbol for 'R.' Just another little layer.
when the hand is a double
@Ángela Sofía Jaime Moreno I think it´s universal
It's also pointing out the fact that, in fact, G.R.M. did in fact steal the R.R. Why? He changed his name to add that second R, he doesn't deserve it.
Oh, nice! I thought he was making a hook with his fingers 😅
@@benverzijlbergen2968 That too, and “RR” sounds like a stereotypical pirate
Honestly Tolkien just won in the intro when he literally took off the One Ring to battle.
I agree. He didn't have to say a word to win.
"it's meant to be unrealistic, you myopic manatee" is my favorite line in the entirety of ERB history.
Haha I’ve only done three but I have to agree so far
Tolkien has been accused of being an escapist writer. And he shot back, yeah. That’s the point, we don’t need to make more sorrows and woes. Thames are supposed to inspire not bring down
My argument against this is the fact that unrealistic elements in fantasy is the world itself, not the logic of the events. It’s UNREALISTIC for those events to happen in a world like that
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Yeah we all know, but the line is hilarious nonetheless.
@@jacobmeisel588 Themes aren't supposed to do anything.
"All your bad guys die and good guys survive!
we can tell what's gonna to happen by page and age five!"
*Sad Boromir and Finrod Felagund, Turin, and general SIlmarillion noises*
It's all fun and giggles. One of the reasons George RR Martin kills off characters once in a while is because of how he loved the shock of Boromir dying. One of the most traditional "warrior" characters, setup with a perfect redemption arc trying to be better and dies so early in the trilogy.
A small one you missed with "you can't reach this fellow, shit I'm too towering" is that Tolkien was the Merton Professor of English Language at the University of Oxford and also Fellow of Pembrook College, Oxford and Fellow of Merton College, Oxford.
So when he says "fellow" he doesn't just mean it like "look at that fellow over there" but it's an actual academic title.
"you want a war, George? Welcome to Shir-Iraq." This is an even better play on words than it seems initially because guess who was president of the US when they declared war on "terrorism" and sent troops into Iraq? GEORGE. W. Bush.
It's also a reference to Chicago (I think that's where NicePeter and EpicLloyd met/started); it's often called Chi-raq because of the violence.
This needs more uovotes
And its probably also a refrence of the scourging of the shire, as in "war in the shire "
Tolkien actually started by inventing the languages. Then he started imagining what the races were like to witch the languages belonged.
*which
The elvish, the dwarf tounge, the black speech
Yeah, the ERB battles continue! Suggestions for next clip: Joker vs. Pennywise or Jordan vs. Ali.
I would love to see him respond and breakdown to that lol
Joker vs Pennywise fr
for joker vs pennywise he needs some serious history on that one. there is just so many little bits and everything throughout the entire song. like big brain raps.
Joker v pennywise
Joker vs Pennywise
Beauty and the Beast was a rather brilliant series from the late 80s, staring Linda Hamilton and Ron Perlman. Martin wrote some 14 episodes for the series.
Ron Perlman, the real manimal
Aww, I forgot about that show! I loved it!
I kinda remember that show. But totally forgot Ron Perlman was in it.
Martin wrote episodes for that show? Huh, neat.
@@willparry530 yeah he was in a huge financial slump before writing A Game of Thrones and started writing in Hollywood to pay the bills
Tolkien: I'm numbers One AND Two; you're under Fifty Shades of Grey!"
*FLAWLESS VICTORY*
*FINISH HIM*
Tolkien: "You're a pirate; you even stole my R.R."
*FATALITY*
*RETURN OF THE KING*
Oh man, I wanna hear the MK announcer narrate Lord of the Rings now...
what i love about this is it starts with martin saying "there a new literary lord in the ring" and ends with Tolken "every time i battle it's return of the king" it feels very well rounded.
Also, to add on, Lords bow to Kings!!! Even better
Speaking of Cristopher Tolkien, its very sad to say but he did die as of January 2020. He was a great author and did his father proud, rest in peace
Rest In Peace Sir
Rest in Peace
Rest in Peace
Yeah, that's how Prime got to make that bullshit show, that ignores everything. His grandkids, didn't give a shit about protecting his father's legacy, and sold it for money so Amazon made a lotr in name only. That shitty show would have never been allowed under Christopher.
Rest in peace
look, i don't know about some, but personally, I LOVE having the backstory of every tree branch. it adds to the fact that Tolkien wasn't writing a story, he was creating a world, and that world had lore, DEEP lore, and he was so in depth that the immersion level was insanely, high.
And so fell the tree branch of Gil Guriel, born during the chaos of the Second Age and hardened during the fires of the Angarrian Plains. From that branch sprouted but two flowers, one of pink and pale green hue which adorned the hair of a ruby haired shepherdess before she was betrothed to Eduin, Third Cousin to the King of Lebannin. The other flower grew grey and black as if corrupted by malign forces, but came into prominence early in the reigns of the High Stewards as only its sap could bring relief to the fever that ravished that land, brought there by a foul curse from a fallen Numenoran artifact, the eldritch want Syzibor forged during the First Age by...
Knox out here bodying people and then doing erb reactions. Totally dope man. Definitely keep it up
🤣🤣🙌 I do what I want
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@KnoxHill Lets go! Had me dying :D. You're the best man.
One thing I just noticed is that with the Shire-raq = Iraq wordplay, there was another layer of wordplay there because George W. Bush was the one who pushed for war in Iraq thus leading to "You want a war George"
Also, *George* W. Bush referred to Chicago as Chi-raq, because of the violence.
Tolkien killed this one 💣💥.
You must be proud being LOTR fan 😂
The best description I ever heard is that Tolkien built the sandbox that George is playing in.
i nominate their best history ones imo: Alexander the great vs. Ivan the Teribble and Stalin vs. Rasputin
Thor vs Zeus has some good disses and wordplay while also being in the lego style harry potter vs luke skywalker was in. Def worth checking that out
legoes go harder then real people :)
@@HardstyleForLife1000 Especially if you step on one.
Maybe you did not notice, that it looks like a lecture from a professor Tolkien to Martin when Martin sits in a chair. The gestures of Tolkien are at least for me close to a teacher or professor who explains the topic. Also George is reading "The Fellowship of the King" before Tolkiens first part starts. Love your breakdowns of the ERB and I love to see more. I really like the big ones like Rasputin vs Stalin or Ivan the Terrible vs Alexander the Great
Fun fact: Martin still writes in WordPerfect for DOS. That's what they referenced with the old computer during one of his shots.
I thought it was Wordstar, actually.
The last line is also great because it mirrors the end of Martin's first verse. In response to Martin calling himself the "literary lord in the ring," Tolkien calls himself the King.
Dude, you didn’t lose cred, you gained it. Real dudes recognise quality literature
Knox, you are about to become a legend in the ERB reaction world after seeing your first three reactions.
A couple of fun facts: Tolkien did study Icelandic and used it e.g. around the Rohirrim and the Dwarves and he had an Icelandic babysitter in the 30's that did give some nice insight in their family life when she was interviewed in her old age.
Greetings from Iceland.
very interesting insight
And he learned Finnish so he could read Kalevala in the original language, Turin Turambar's story in Silmarillion is based on the story of Kullervo from Kalevala, and one of his languages, Quenya, is based on Finnish. And if you want dark, Turin's story, as well as some other stories in Silmarillion, are pretty dark even if you compare them to GOT (I'm only familiar with the series though, and haven't seen all of it, I have had enough darkness in my life to not enjoy reading "realistic" all that much).
When the Finnish translation of Lord of the Rings was published I remember a magazine article claiming that he had read it, and given the ultimate compliment to the translator, claiming that he had actually found the translation better than his own original writing. Frankly, I don't know if that is true or not, I have not been able to find anything about that online and no longer even remember where that story was published, I was a young teen when I read it and that was a (mumble) of decades ago, but I do have a fairly clear seeming memory of it. And maybe if he said he said it just to be polite, but he seemed to like Finnish as a language.
One slight correction. The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and The Return of the King are in fact NOT books in and of themselves. They are volumes of ONE book, called The Lord of the Rings. The reason it was split into three volumes is because of the publisher and economic reasons. Its original intent was for it to be one of two volumes, with the Silmarillion being the second volume, but the publisher did like that because the time it would take and economic reasons. That was why he is #1 (The Hobbit) and #2 (The Lord of the Rings) in book sales, the reference in the battle, because Lord of the Rings is in fact ONE book. The Lord of the Rings is often sold as a Trilogy so it's numbers are bit more obscured, but each of them are estimated at over 150 million copies sold each. Followed third by Harry Potter and the Philosopher's stone. Martin's entire franchise has only sold 90 million copies, and Fifty Shades of Grey sold 15.2 million copies as ONE book.
Older books have troubles tracking actual book sales, because tracking of book sales is a VERY modern thing, so sales of things like Don Quixote are at best wildly speculative estimations. I've never even SEEN a copy of Don Quixote, let alone read it. Whereas you cannot throw a rock without hitting The Lord of the Rings books or movies.
As far as the Beauty and Beast reference, it refers to an old 1987 CBS fantasy romance series called Beauty and the Beast, he was a writer on that show for all three seasons.
I thought Don Quixote was the best selling novel of all time though? Didn't it sell around 500 million copies?
@@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox That’s exactly what he’s pointing out... Older books are more of an estimate than actual sales numbers. He’s saying those older numbers can be wildly inaccurate because they’re estimations, and because of the fact that he’s never seen a copy of Don Quixote but he’s seen tons of copies of LotR it would imply that LotR has probably sold more copies. And it’s the same for me, I’ve personally never seen a copy of Don Quixote either but I’ve seen a lot of LotR, and I even own a set of the LotR books.
I have no clue how they do the estimations for the amount of copies sold for older books and I never really pay attention to that stuff anyways. It just doesn’t matter to me.
The very foundation of modern fantasy was actually laid by Tolkien. Almost every standard fantasy race and mechanic can be traced back to his works.
Edit: Modern Western Fantasy
@Tusumia True, you’re right.
Martin playing the RPG on his computer is a reference to how he writes. Martin uses an ancient text program that only runs on DOS. He does this because he claims modern word processing programs interfere too much with his writing. (Spell and grammar check, page formatting, etc.)
would be tough to beat Tolkien in word play, after all he studied language for fun so much he was able to create his own
Also, I believe he quite literally wrote the dictionary.
Not for fun, it was his profession.
@@vexaris1890 but he also found it fun. Hence why it ended up becoming his profession eventually.
@@vexaris1890some people actually enjoy their jobs as hard as it may be for you to believe
The true joy in your face as some of the punches hit was priceless! Great job Knox!
If you're doing ERB's greatest hits, make sure to check out James Bond vs Austin Powers, you'll love it!
He's doing ones whose characters he's familiar with
This one is amazing
I JUST finished the trilogy again, and man... the last 30 minutes will never fail to hit you right in the feels.
I was hoping for the day you start reacting to ERB. Check Oppenheimer vs Thanos and Joker vs Pennywise that ones are dope! Love from Argentina Knox, keep doing like this!
That Skarsgard line from Joker vs Pennywise had to be smiling for a while.
@@someonebr7862 Dope lines!
"I will fight you on the comments". I inhaled a mouth full of beer and went into a coughing fit that made my neighbor come check on me.
So fucking funny, I'm loving this!
"I'll fight you on the beaches; I'll fight you on the beats, yes!"
@@MKDumas1981 "Anywhere you want to fight I'll fight ya and I'll beat ya see!"
“All your bad guys die your good guys survive” cough cough silmarilion... also Turin, even then good didn’t beat evil, evil brought about its own doom (if not for the corruption of Gollum, the ring would never be destroyed)
“Chance and anarchy” in Tolkien’s works there is no chance
Chance = Ilúvatar's invisible hand
The point for Game of Thrones being more mainstream could actually be given to Tolkien because his work and the slow but steady dissemination of the LOTR series through-out the world that finally resulted in the billion dollar successes of the movies arguably paved the way for GoT to become so widely accepted in the first place.
R. R. Martin was so visible because he was standing on the shoulders of one of the biggest fantasy giants to date.
Thats the thing about "going too deep" though, Tolkien, DID create a universe. Martin just took what we know from history and mythos and built a world, Tolkien, built, a, UNIVERSE. Even the spoken languages in a Song of Ice and Fire are just rehashes of languages we have today, fucking Dothraki is predominantly Maori and Samoan FFS!, whats Elvish and the Black Speech based on? NOTHING, theyre ENTIRELY new languages!
One could argue that going too deep is too far, but i have nothing but admiration for that kind of dedication to your craft, and thats why Martin will NEVER be equal to Tolkien.
Of course Tolkien created a universe - as you call it - but actually a creation myth based on the Norse sagas, because England doesn't have such a thing.
He drew heavily on the Finnish creation myth Kalevala, the Ring of the Nibelungs/Siegfried, Beowulf and Icelandic saga literature. Tolkien also drew on stories from classical Greek mythology and heroic epic poetry, such as the Homeric Iliad or Plato's depiction of the sinking of Atlantis, as well as various fairy tale motifs as written down by the Brothers Grimm.
The Children of Hurin (one of my favourite Tolkien books) has many parallels to Kullervo (The Story of Kullervo). Túrin kills his comrade Beleg, marries his sister Nienor and all this while fleeing from an imposed fate. When the two realise that they are siblings, Nienor throws herself into a river and Túrin into his sword. Their father Húrin has to watch everything and cannot intervene.
That Elvish and the Black Language of Mordor are not based on any worldly language is also wrong.
Elvish has two important dialects that have been developed in the most detail. Sindarin and Quenya.
While Quenya was not the first language Tolkien invented (he had attempted a further development of Gothic, for instance, before that), it was the first of those languages he later integrated into his mythology. In 1912, Tolkien discovered the Finnish language. He was so impressed by the experience of reading the Finnish national epic Kalevala that he decided to invent his own language based on Finnish phonetics, which he found particularly beautiful. Unlike its successor Sindarin, Quenya can be described as an inflectional language inspired by Finnish. It knows ten cases and four numerals and thus has more pronounced declensions than the original Indo-European language. However, with five tenses, no distinct passive voice, and modes indicated only syntactically or by particles, the verbal morphology is very limited compared to Indo-European.
Sindarin was the language of the Sindar (Grey Elves, Teleri) in the First Age and later spread among the other Elves. Tolkien left less written material on Sindarin than on Quenya, so only the basic features of Sindarin can be clarified today.
J. R. R. Tolkien liked the Welsh language. Some grammatical and especially phonological features of Sindarin can be traced back to Welsh. For example, the anlaut mutations, which are an innovation of the island Celtic languages within the Indo-European language family. However, the language can certainly be described as "real", since Sindarin also has a predecessor language from which all its roots can be derived.
I hope this has helped you a little! :)
I love that somebody knows that Quenya is a type of Finnish and Sindarin is a type of Welsh.
My ERB suggestions is for:
-Joker vs Pennywise
-Thanos vs Oppenheimer
-Alexander the Great vs Ivan the Terrible
I'm really glad you caught that last bar. I missed it every time until it was pointed out to me, but it's honestly one of the sneakiest, clever bars I heard in awhile.
I love seeing a fellow Tolkien lover loving this. You can see how happy you were the whole time. It is one of my favourite ERB's for sure.
YOU MISSED SOMETHING!!!
"you're a Pirate, you even stoll my RR", when he said this, his fingers were wrapped together... thats the sign language for pirate, because it's like a hook on the hand, AND it looks like your fingers make a lower case 'r'.
Edit: I beleive the beauty and the beast line is in reference to George rr Martin cutting his 'television teeth' on episodes of the beauty and the beast live action series that was done.
no, it's the sign language sign for the letter R but then he curved it a little to look like a pirate hook. close tho!
Definitely not the sign for "Pirate". It's the letter R like Mimsy said.
Technically Tolkien developed the languages first iirc.
He then worldbuilt around the languages and THEN wrote the stories within them.
The Beauty and the Beast line came from the fact that Martin was a writer for the 1987 TV series.
Much love Knox! I can’t get enough of your content and that diss track was something else bro, looking forward to Saturday’s stream! keep them coming!
I'd also recommend Thanos vs Oppenheimer. Again, a very one-sided battle but one of their best produced and best performed videos/songs. So many good ERBs I've forgotten about. lol
This breakdown is one big spoiler warning.
This was a fun one.
Books been out for decades.
@@thecmancan These are a coming of age for some people, people still read em
If you’re worried about spoilers, maybe don’t click on a TH-cam video that says in the title it’s about the thing you don’t want spoiled.
I'm so glad you got the fellow-shit, two towering and return of the king bars, so many miss this. One of my favorite battles ever
I feel like this whole battle is unfair as hell. Like no offense to GRRM, he's one of my favorite authors, but Tolkien was quite literally the big daddy of the entire fantasy genre.
One of the reasons that game of thrones is so different from lord of the rings is because Martin knew that he couldn’t match what lord of the rings achieved in that style of fantasy
He tried to play game of thrones with Tolkien for the fantasy genre, but there was one Mordor that he could not pass
The Renegades React Channel had stated this too. They're not contemporaries at all. C.S Lewis, would have been a better match for Tolkien, but the pairing had to make sense in an easily understandable way. So it had to be Tolkien and Martin.
They could tried with one of Martin's contemporaries though, since has a lot of them, but are less blockbuster Hollywood like him. You got Gaiman, Prachett, etc. Hell, they coulda even tried with Rowling. But it still wouldn't have worked as well as the matching "R.R."s on their names during the intros.
Yeah GRRM would probably agree it’s an unfair matchup. He loves Tolkien and credits it as his biggest influence, and rereads it every couple years
Knox This was easily the best breakdown of this battle I've ever seen man good stuff!! keep up the grind man you are gonna blow up heavy man mili coming to you
Cool dude, im personally definitely digging these breakdowns. Tolkien preferred winner for sure.
Thanos vs Oppenheimer or Dr Suess vs Shakespeare.
Also check out Sage Francis/NonProphets.
A little side-fact: the game George is playing on the computer is Zork, a classic text-based adventure game.
And another fact that people didn't pick up on is that George uses an old computer like the one featured in the video to type his books.
I remember playing the Zork series when I was young. My god that dates me badly
Nasty Knox, Nerdy Knox.
We love em all 😂
Sir Isaac Newton vs Bill Nye is great but a bit short.
I really want to see him react to who played Newton, and the equation bit, SO BAD
I highly recommend Zeus vs Thor Epic Rap Battles of History. Some of the most savage bars in ERB history
These are absolutely my favorite breakdowns. Super well done, man!
Also, awesome music in the intros! Will give a listen to the album.
Loving these breakdowns mate, you've earned a new sub here. I'd like to nominate Joker vs Pennywise for you to check out, you'll be there all day breaking down those bars.
The first counting of the trolls and elves, etc. is also reminiscent of his writing style with "and and and and"
Lol Knox getting deep with that lore knowledge!!!! Loving it man
Also, keep in mind that Tolkien was a devout Catholic and that's evident in his stories where good (God) triumphs over evil.
Congrats on you your diss track broo . Thats was some dope fucking piece 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Alexander the Great vs Ivan the Terrible please
Ah, Yes, J.R.R Tolkien vs We Skeem, My favorite rap battle from ERB. Two men whom I respect and ERB doing this battle is going back to their roots of choosing battle match-ups randomly
Knox: I'm Picking the Ones I Know the most about.
Me: It's A Simple Spell But Quite Effective.
When he realized Tolkien had a fire ending.
ERB Darth Vader vs Hitler.. 3 parts to this beef. The Force is with the bars
Honestly I think Hitler won the majority in those ERB's, only losing the final one, and the only reason people say different is cause he's Hitler. Vader had next to no good diss' in the first two battles while Hitler had at least two each battle, until the third where I think they just intentionally gave him not-as-good raps so they could lay the whole thing to rest and say Vader won, plus at that point Hitler had so little to diss Vader with, while it feels like they left the best diss against Hitler for that last battle.
What’s the very, very worst thing about prison?
led zeppelin reference, here are some lyrics from Ramble on ....
"How years ago in days of old
When magic filled the air
'T was in the darkest depths of Mordor
I met a girl so fair
But Gollum, and the evil one
Crept up and slipped away with her
Her, her, yeah
Ain't nothing I can do, no"
Not sure if someone else mentioned it yet, but when Tolkien says "you even stole my R.R." his hand is signing the letter "R" in sign language. At least American Sign Language anyway. I feel like that can easily be missed and I thought it was cool.
The main 3 I’d recommend checking out next are Thor vs Zeus, Alexander the Great vs Ivan the Terrible and Joker vs Pennywise.
I am super glad you stumbled onto these. Loved ERB a long time. Glad to see the appreciation!
Almost no one catches that he named all three books. And only you reacted to it reacted the way I did.
I can't believe it took me so long to find your channel. I've literally spent all day watching so many of your breakdowns and now I see why you get all the respect you receive and deserve.
I really doubted Martin could’ve won this. He had some great lines but Tolkien’s reputation just murders him.
It’s like Oppenheimer vs Thanos, Thanos might have done far worse but Oppenheimer was a real dude, he almost got guaranteed the win.
You missed the fact that when he said "You even stole my R.R." he was using the ASL sign for the letter R. Nice subtle move for those of us who catch such things.
Murders, flow switch ups, good punches, you'll enjoy Jack the Ripper Vs Hannibal
Another great ERB Breakdown! Love what you're doing, keep up the good work!
Next ERB suggestion: Joker vs. Pennywise or Freddy Krueger vs. Wolverine
Love your breakdowns, I found you through your coverage of the eminem vs MGK video and I just so happen to also LOVE ERB anf you've covered most of my favorites so this playlist is a perfect combo, I cant wait to check some of your stuff out. Just one note on this video, GRRM has NOT brought Jon Snow back, DandD did for the show but the last book, that's still a cliffhanger and none of the prerelease chapters have given away Jon's fate. Most suspect he will be resurrected, but it probably won't be that simple, he might be like lady stone heart or something.
Knox: There was no dwarves in GoT
*Tirion Lannister is crying*
Oh, snap. I really didn't expect another ERB reaction. I was having a shitty situation at the moment but your reactions has put a smile on my face. Great breakdowns, Knox. 💪💪
Speaking of next reactions, well, a lot of people are recommending Joker Vs Pennywise but I'm gonna throw a wrench and I want to see you react to Ronald McDonald Vs The Burger King.
"Oh, snap"?
I see what you did there.
@@MKDumas1981 Thanks for noticing, I thought nobody would notice the "Oh, snap." and the "put a smile on my face." line. 😆
I love how at the very beginning G.R.R.M. says he’s the “lord of the ring”, then at the very end J.R.R.T. responds to that by saying every time he battles it’s “return of the king”. It’s a very well done one up in my opinion
A personal favorite of mine is Thomas Jefferson vs. Fredrick Douglass
DUUUDE seeing you nerding out is just so amazing cozz you need a lot of knowledge to be an amazing rapper and what can give you more ammo than fantasy lore and reference man that's just some deep knowledge that anyone who will catch it will love it 🤘🏽❤️
you should react to Thanos Vs Oppenheimer, there's a lot of cool things going on with that one
Another amazing video Knox! These epic rap battles are fire 🔥
Yeah, Tolkien smoked Martin. Great breakdown as always.
P.s. react to Michael Jordan vs. Muhammad Ali or Teddy Roosevelt vs Winston Churchill
13:19 Also, earlier in the video, it shows Martin reading Fellowship of the Ring. Throughout the video, they show how Martin was dependent on Tolkien.
You missed the "you went too deep" line. It's a double, both dissing Tolkien's insane detailing and referencing the dwarves digging "too deep" and awaking the Balrog.
And, yes, Martin was a screenwriter on the Beauty and the Beast TV show with Linda Hamilton Ron Perlman.
I thought I've read everything about how deep these battles are but DAAAAMN you helped me see and appreciate so much more wordplay.
Also that sample at the start spoke to me man! I'm definitely checking it out. I hope you're doing awesome these days!
"Good artists borrow but great artists steal."
Amazing job with the breakdown Knox! Didn’t notice until watching the breakdown: when Tolkien does the “RR” line, he’s signing “R” in American Sign Language. Super cleaver.
Thanos vs Oppenheimer is effing insane!!! Please do that one next!!!!
About the “Beauty and the Beast”: One of Martin's first writing jobs was as a writer and producer on the 1987 television series, Beauty and the Beast.
in reference to the beauty and the beast line Martin wrote a fantasy, romance show called beauty and the beast before the disney film. or something like that
Huh. Got any links verifying that?
There you go, Mitch. Took me about 30 seconds.
@@Mitwadus There was this 1980's tv shows starring Ron Perlman and Linda Hamilton. George R. R. Martin was co-written 14 episodes
www.imdb.com/title/tt0092319/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm
Just discovered this channel thanks to the ERB reactions, keep it up
I appreciate this breakdown Knox. I've tried reading the Lord of the Rings books, and never could before, but it's been several years and I didn't know Tolkien did that much for his world building. I'll give them another shot
I will say that they take a bit to get into, I've rest them all many times, if you can stick with it for a little bit, I promise it will change your life. Amazing books.
@@jessejackson7486 I'll keep that in mind, I'll trust you though, haven't given me a reason not to lol. Should I read from Hobbit and on since that's technically the start, or right into the main story?
@@ianorchard7178 most definitely. The hobbit makes a huge impact on the trilogy. On top of that, the extra content that the books have will stun and amaze you at times. You'll love it once you get going. The hobbit is the best place to start, it helps pull you in while also being easier to broach into. Good reading!
@@jessejackson7486 Awesome! Thanks for the advice and inspiration. I'm currently reading the Witcher books but once I finish those, I'll give it another shot and will do my best to finish them all. Take care!
@@ianorchard7178 my pleasure, I haven't gotten to the witcher books yet but I do hear they are good. Happy reading, and take care as well.
The tree branch thing is a double edged sword. For me it bored me before I could even figure out the plot of the thousand page book. Which had a bunch of poems? Yeah, lets say I never fully read the books