Timpani Fundamentals: Perfecting Your Timpani Rolls
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มิ.ย. 2024
- Timpani clinic from PASIC 2020
Dr. Bill Shaltis, University of Memphis
wmshltis@memphis.edu
Time Codes:
:21 - What is a timpani roll?
1:49 - Basic sound production
5:26 - The 5 things that will affect your sound
10:49 - Roll Exercises
18:26 - Fp, rolling drum to drum, metered rolls
23:54 - Friese/Lepak etudes
32:27 - Orchestral excerpts - เพลง
an episode of Bonanza brought me here...during a dramatic scene there were two timpani notes played...it made me want to hear more timpani...easily the most dramatic drum made
I’m playing a piece called Bonanza on timpani what a coincidence
Thank you! Very interesting, well done! Regards, Piero Ponzo
Thanks Bill.. :)
Great video! very very useful. Thanks a lot!!
Thank you for your clear explanation. How would you approach the roll in the opening choir of Bach's Weihnachtsoratorium, Jauchzet, Frohlocket? I play with wood barock mallets. Would you recommend doing a buzz roll? If I do single stroke, should I try doing it rithmically, how many notes to the beat? I find it very difficult just to roll without some kind of rhythm in the roll. A final challenge I find is the crescendo at the end of the roll and getting the first beat of the jauchzet theme in time without a gap after the roll.
Hello Renske! Thank you watching. With regards, to your question, current scholarship is pretty vague on how to execute rolls. I'd try something like a triple bounce roll -- something maybe not as tight as a snare drum buzz roll but something that gives the illusion of a sustained sound. Obviously if the conductor wants you to play a single stroke roll, do what the maestro asks!
@@goodbeatspercussion Thank you for the advice. I will try the triple bounce rolls. Actually the conductor wants to hear my Christmass roll next week.
It looks like he uses the French grip on his timpani mallets?
Why a guy who can not play roll at all, talk about roll? It's realy strange that we never heard even one time real roll. You present roll? Right? Then at least one time have to show how sound that. All we hear was sixteenth notes and useless drumline rudiments. The timpani are concert instruments ,not rudimental drumming crap!
Hi Mladen! Thank you for your thoughtful comments. In answer to your questions…timpani rolls are generally achieved by means of a single stroke roll, rather than a buzz roll like you find with snare drum performance. They key to developing even single strokes hand-to-hand begins with exercises that address this fundamental concept. The exercise you’re referring to as “useless drumline rudiments” is actually a very good tool and is used by both rudimental and concert percussionists to develop their hands on timpani, snare drum, marimba, etc. I would recommend incorporating an 8-on-a-hand exercise into your regimen, regardless of percussion instrument! This was a clinic that I presented at the Percussive Arts Society International Convention in 2020 targeted towards beginning percussionists, so I apologize if the concepts and the pacing were not to your liking!
Binladen Vass, dude thanks so much for demanding more from these youtubers who are providing free educational content to beginning percussionists. We need to hold assholes like Bill accountable for not explaining things the way you would. If he's going to donate hours of his time making free content and get $0.00 in return, he should at least do it perfectly the way you would. He's only performed with around 20 or so professional ensembles/symphonies/operas etc..., so you certainly know better. Way to go!!
@@CaseyCangelosi What you talking about? This person is not unemployed, he has both performance and education job, where he is paid well, this video ( and probably many more) is a great advertising that will bring him more students and performance opportunities which mean more and more money for him ( the same like many other guys did in TH-cam).
If you never notice TH-cam is ultra well paid platform and this person make money from his TH-cam monetary account, not to mention that when you click on the video 1st run commercials (adds) and after that the content! The way he explain the roll can confuse even professional timpanists who all ready know it and don't need any explanations, imagine what will be for a students who have no idea what is roll and never seen that before, you talking about beginners, right?
What I can say that I will avoid my students to see that kind of content drum line/marching approach to the concert classical instruments, because that will be very destructive influence. I'm not talking just about my way, but the way everybody do it, it called concert way! Your age, experience and education are not the only verification of your proficiency there are many examples of young virtuosos 7-8 years old (basically on any instrument) who know and play mach better than some 50 old full time professors!
The great deal is if you are appointed on good job at 18 and retired at 65/70 on the same job.If somebody is so worse musician that have been kick out from more than 20 jobs is not something that have to be proud or give like a good example !!!!!
@@MladenVassman thanks for the laughs. The internet makes me laugh all day, but your comment was the funniest thing I've seen in a long long time.
@@goodbeatspercussion The only thing I am saying is that you should not mix drum line approach with concert one.The marching style have countless misconceptions, but nobody destroy that (or criticized) and let it to be a live to the present day, on the base that one thing is marching/rudimental drumming and something very different is the concert (classical music ) style.But when you try to spoil /break the classical music, just because for you is more comfortable to explain everything trough the rudiments that is too mach.
Any rudimental stuff should stay only at the marching snare drum(not the concert one) and not to be applied to any other percussion instruments.I really don't know why something made in Basel and shipped to USA have to be so mach worshiped and put in manic obsession and with that to be explained the all world.
The 2nd was that after all explanations, you never show what have to be the "final product" of all practice and preparations, the roll you do, when you play in the symphony (or the opera theater). The roll is not just mechanics, physical movements, bodybuilding (the way you show it), but music and art, so if there is no play a long recording you need at least to have some kind of piano accompaniment in order to show how look and sound the roll in the real music.
Its crazy that the people in united state even when show orchestral experts, they show them like solo timpani, but usually the timpani sound together with the orchestra in the context of accompaniment of the melody! If there is no melody to what and who they did the accompaniment. I hope did my point more clear!