Peugeot 307 ABS light on. Error C1381. Fault finding and repair.
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This car came to me with a problem on the ABS system.
My fault... at the start I could not communicate correctly with the car... later on the video I will show you why... however, that mistake cost me some time...
But I got there in the end, follow me on this video to find out what was the problem and how I have resolved it in this case.
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Tricky one but Fantastic work bud, it's amazing how you are able to trace the issue down to the electronic component, testament of your diligent and never given up effort... cheers 👍
Thanks Igor...
Really appreciated your comment!
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Man, you are the first repair tech that I have seen on youtube that is diagnosing and trying to do board level repairs in order to fix the cars. A tech of my taste, your customers should be very happy. I subscribed to your channel. lots of usefull Info here (i just bought a Peugeot... ).
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I do my best!
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Greetings from Portugal. Big thank you to this video. It helped me to sort out an error from a Partner B9. Changed the relay, deleted the error and no more ABS light on. Keep on the excellent work.
That's great!
Obrigado pelo comentário!
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No one is bother repairing that doble relay on these especially as it's relativelly cheap, and by watching you repairing it and by watching your other videos I must think you're truly passionate about this job...
Why replace at a high cost, when you can repair it for close to nothing?
But I know what you mean... is the "part changing" era...
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Great stuff as usual Louis, all these details can drive me mad with not just Pugs but every make, as we say, "the devil is in the detail".
Thanks Keith!
Yes... the attention to detail can make all the difference!
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A new ABS relay is about $15! Good work. The exact same relay is also found in older cars as the fuel pump relay.
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Hi. Last Sunday, my peugeot 307 has have a similar flaw with some other problems. The same alarms lights but ... sometimes the rpm meter stops working. I was one step away from blameing the ABS unit. Watching carfully your video (and others) could notice always RPM meter was working. Problem was electrical and easy. Voltage regulator on the alternator was the problem. Too high voltage (sometimes about 17 V) on the car electrical network. I learnt is important take fast electrical measures, for extence voltage on battery, before start to dissasemble the car. I hope some one with a similar issue do not blame ABS unit before check out the voltage on the car.
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Good advice...
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I like the way you trace the problem. Fantasy work again. I have a 307cc 2008 model which I brought with a broken timing belt and bent valves which is proving to be a problem, somebody already had a go at fixing it so it’s missing several parts which I can’t seem to figure out what they are. They bolt to the cylinder head above the thermostat housing and I think are sometimes to do with the emission control system. Anyway awesome stuff thanks.
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Hope you manage to get it fixed!
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Hi had the same problem on a 207 1.6 hdi 2009 6 weeks ago and eventually trace to relay like you have , very informative videos
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Nice you got yours sorted!
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Esta bien lo que hiciste, un rele corresponde a la alimentacion del ABS y el otro rele a la Bomba combustible, Saludos desde Uruguay
salut a toi, un grand merci pour tous tes vidéos. tu est vraiment une belle personne et compétant. Bravo
Excellent work, my 2005 307 just experienced the same fault code, I found the relay module fixed to the front of the electrical box, easy to get to and remove, not hard to fix, what I didn't realise though is that if you don't have a diag tool that can clear the fault, you need to drive the car up to speed before it learns that ABS is working again and clears the fault - for 3 days now I thought the repair hadn't worked.
P.S. phoned a Peugeot parts department and they said this part is "discontinued" with no replacement.
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Great video as usually. The oil in bsm is from steering pump . (Capilar)
Possibly....
But around here I have seen loads of connectors etc... sprayed with WD40 in an attempt to fix problems... lol
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I don't want to sound smug, but usually with 307s is - original VAN, restyle CAN. With a small exception for the original (old style) from 2005 which received "restyled" "internals"...
Obviously you shoudn't care about such details (not sarcasm, it just doesn't matter judging by the number of different makes of vehicles you work on).
I really enjoy all your videos, you have a way to explain and make the repair pretty simple. Thank you and good luck
It is difficult to remember all the details about all cars... lol
Just as you said...
I appreciate your explanation... help me, and can help others....
Thank you for watching!
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How do you access wiring diagrams? - What web link or software is required - Peugeot 206
hi. where is installed the airbag module ? i need to change it for a new one
thank you So much teacher , cuz you always give us a gold information
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No worries...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Good job and lessons learned, thanks
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nice job man. I'm speechless.
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Well done .Fantastic work
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does abs fault make the automatic gear fault too
Hey mate did you ever work out what the name of the relay module is or where it is located in diagrams? I have a similar ABS fault but diagnosis displays an abs communication fault so gonna go check the same relays just in case - thanks!
I have seen them located in two different places... depending on the engine, year etc...
One is in front of the battery... the other one is behind...
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hello from macedonia i just want to mention that those grease is factory put on that stearing pump plug same thing is on the citroen c4 btw great job u do there
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Great video as usually.
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Fantastic...👏
I think this is it at 19:40 , when you should ve read BF02 instead of BF03 red wire came true then.
Possibly...
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i have same problem in 307 SW 2005, i dont see this relays , where can I find this rele box ???
As usual your job is great 👍
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It is very important to enter the RIGHT DAM code... Sometimes diagrams looks way different. But - GOOD JOB!
Indeed... sometimes I am just a bit lazy... lol
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Great video as usual Do you get alot of Japanese vehicles pass thought your shop . If you do where do you get service info on them . I am in the Bahamas and we have quite a bit .Problem is My Autel nor Launch can auto Indentify Vin so you have to manually identify car. We have models like Nissan Serena Fiat Punto Pinto , Cube and Honda Stream etc all right hand drive. Any info welcomed
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I do a few... but not that many...
There is a few places where you can get some info...
Google will help you quit easily...
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I have same abs stop fault and my servo doesn't work,PLEASE HELP.It's 2.0 16v 2001-100kw, it have oil in servo pump just right but my wheel doesnt work.
Thank you so much have a great day 🌺
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Thank you for another great video!!!
Thanks!
hi This fix module in diods is module fuel pump ?? what heping?
No is not...
If you used Google to try to debunk my video, learn how to use Google...
And you will find that this double relay module feeds the ABS module...
Actually, there is other videos on TH-cam showing this issue...
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Ithink you forgot to add the link you mention on the video . About connecting pp2000 . thank you ....
Thank you very much for the information
No worries...
Thank you for watching!
What is the software that you are using on the laptop? & can the DIY machanic purchase this?
Diagbox... just google it!
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where do you get the diaodes from and the gun for unpicking the solder on the board
The diodes I usually get them from old boards etc... in this case I think I had new ones around...
The gun, is a desoldering vacuum gun...
Just google it or look on ebay...
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Excellent video. Thank you
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Hy, I have peugeot 307 2005 2000 benzin and I have a Christmas 🎄 how it's call theat relee?I have abs esp and airbag.
Hi, wanna ask is that relay thing an omron 240107
Yes... is a double relay...
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I have the same problem with my citroen dispatch van, I'm gonna hunt for this relay box in the morning thanks!
Hope you find the issue...
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I cant find that relay box on ebay or anything? Do you have any idea what it's called? Is it part of the glow plug relay? Just cant find one online anywhere?
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You have definitely not looked hard enough...
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But make sure that is actually your problem... before start to spend money...
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Yes had seen those, but apparently, that is a double relay, one relay is for the reserculation pump on the abs and the other is for the fuel pump ( dual purpose relay box)
Thanks for your time mate, il change that over on my van and let you know if it is fixed because If it is fixed, it is down to your video my friend, as my van has exactly the same code and issue as the one in your video, so I'm going to use my intuition and order the duel relay box, thankyou and merry Christmas, please spend time with your wife and kid and leave the cars alone for Christmas, you deserve a break
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Thanks!
Merry Christmas to you as well!
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Another ace video, thanks
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hi, maybe you could answer a question for me re Peugeot 206 hdi, abs problem loss of power inside abs ecu, but why can't I fit another abs from the same model which has a different number, both ATE MK70, ? I'm sure you will know.
Most likely you can, but I would check compatibility first...
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Poor from the Maxisys , taking you down the wrong path!,Good video full of helpful information well done.
Yes... it did...
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pls write mee mark diods this EN 4007 OR IN4007 ???
It's possible to retrofit ESP on a vehicle that's only equipped with ABS?
I'm talking about for Peugeot 207 1.6 HDI.
I would say yes... but you would have to install all the sensors etc...
Thank you for watching!
Any retrofit is subject to vin and equipment...
wow.good finding thank you. top man
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again great & useful video.
but please when you have abbreviations try in your next videos to say them completely if you don't mind?
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I have a code c1335 starting safety function, electrical fault on my year 2008 308 1.6 hdi 120hp and it has me puzzled any ideas?
Check live data...
Your answer will most likely be there...
What tool are you using to read the codes?
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wonderful video, I still want help from you, I have a Peugeot 307 from 2003 hdi, a problem appeared after a diagnosis on the left rear wheel, a faulty sensor, I made a complete change of the sensor and the reader on the bearing and the abs sensor and esp again light up, which could be the problem?
Did the light ever went off after those parts replaced?
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Awesome fault finding 👌
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Looks like fuel pump relay Omron 240107? I picked out that relay from socket for checking, no fault in my case. BTW, no need to open the case of that relay for checking unless it's actually faulty. It can be measured from pins. The internal schematic diagram of that double relay is printed on the top of the case. I have a photo but looks like there is no way to attach it here. Locking of that relay to socket is a kind of overkill: There is a red plastic bracket you need to slide out to release the relay but that bracket is locked with a metal spring you have to pick off first... Inserting that relay back to socket is again a project: I was not able to press it into socket even by force of my two hands. Helping carefully with plumber wrench finally did the job! I have never seen that tight relay socket.
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What about battery indicator light on this 2007 307 model, pls enlighten me
Alternator?
Wiring?
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Hey I have the same car. Sinking brake pedal. I have a new master cylinder fitted, but the problem still there. All brakes have been checked and bled by the garage. Pedal goes hard when engine not running which I understand means servo is good.. So do you think this is faulty abs block? Could you please share your abs block code with me so I can source one?
This was not my car... I don't have how to check that now...
where do you get the diodes from can you get them on line
Yes... ebay is a good place... but there is other online shops that sell them... Like RS...
Thank you for watching!
Good lesson
Thanks!
I'm planning to buy a used 7 seat car and I'm thinking of 2007 pegeut 307sw 1.6 with manual transmission ,, and I heard that it has many problems ,, especially automatic transmission worn every time to time and power steering pump, engine, AC compressor and unit control, etc
My question is, is it reliable car with manual transmission ?? Or should I go away and search about more reliable car
Useful video 👍
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Salut j'ai une voiture 307/2004 J'ai le même problème mais bsm est différent intégral Note Le climatiseur de voiture ne fonctionne pas pendant des années Si vous remplacez le système ABS de bsm fonctionnera avec de la climatisation Merci avec respect et appréciation
Hello, How to access this fuse (the one you just fixed in video) in Peugeot 308 sw 2009 1.6 HDI Diesel,
i mean where it is place ?
Khaled Mohamed Younes where it is place???
I know this is an old video, but I have the same fault code, but on my car, 2.0 HDi rcz, it doesn't have the double relay where it is on this car, would you know where it is located on my car ?
No... I don't know where it lives on the RCZ... also, not all models have this relay...
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Good job man
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Hi do you know what this mean on a Peugeot expert 2011. U0122 lost communication with vehicle dynamics control module. Thanks
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Quite self explanatory... looks like the ECU that is reporting that fault, is not communicating with the dynamics control module... which I assume it might be the ABS/ESP...
Hope that helps...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thank you for replying I changed the abs pump by a garage with a matching number part just comes up engine fault on display some said maybe its something to do with mine doesn't have esp button
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Check coding/programming and change it accordingly...👍
Great video
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I am watching a ton of videos to understand what is happening with my 1.6 HDi 307. I have intermittent power steering failure, the steering wheel turns rock solid, and it gets back after turning the car off and on again. Sometimes that is not working either. It stop randomly, after 20-25 minutes of driving, never at a fresh engine start. Sometimes it stops and revives itself out of the blue. I have two codes, that are most likely connected somehow to the ABS module that sends speed info to the electronic power steering pump. C1200 and C1280. The service told me to change the whole pump, but I'm not really into spending 700 euros and the problem keep persisting because it was a damn wire or smth. Any ideas? Amazing work, btw!
Check power and grounds... specially grounds... for corrosion etc...
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Still, you can have a failing pump...
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you are a great troubleshooter
what is that program that you used here for electric diagram ?? is it specific to peugeot
Yes... called Sedre
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thanks a lot
do you know an other service or program data for peugeot .
excuse me for asking but I work a lot on french's cars especially peugeot .
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Sedre is the original peugeot diagrams...
Other that that, you have the generic ones... like Autodata, HGS, etc...
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thanks man you are very kind
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great video thank you
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Great work
Can you tell us the name of wiring diagram ?
In this video was using Sedre...
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Hello there nice to meet you again
It's a good video
But i like to know about something
What app you use to know the diagram and what is the name for this application you use in the video
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Sedre....
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Iet me tell you something
My name is Ahmed and i am from iraq
We don't have any Anyone with experience in Peugeot but we like the car and love it i hope you can helping me with something it's about my car key and l need to ask you about the fun in my car it's fan not kicking when the temperature is 90
I hope you can helping me
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Start if you haven't already, by checking that the fan is good, relays and fuses...
If you have a bidirectional scanner, actuate the fan and see if works.... check codes and live data...
Hope that helps...
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@@LMAutoRepairs and what about the car key remote control is there any way please
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What do you mean?
If the remote is not working, have you checked the battery?
There is a tester used to see if the remote is transmitting...
Just out of curiosity ,how much do you charge for such this jobs ?
I can't remember now...
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I have those symptoms:
-abs light warning
-S light, if batterry disconnected, the abs warning light will disappear and not appear back on, immediately.
It will turn on after 40 50 min or if driven really fast.
Sensors test ok for resistance, magnetic rings look like new.
Abs kicks in normal when fault is not on, but after warning light on , just breaks normal .
What can it be? Break light switch? Abs main unit? Problem fixed but not coded ?
Have you scanned the car?
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Hello!
My 2005 1.6 hdi 307 also has this error also. BUT i cannot find the little 2 relay box... I have voltage on the 2 big wires and also on a little one after ignition. But the dash still lights up ABS and STOP!
Another thing to mention is that the recirculating pump can be activated from autocom diag.
What the devil should be done now? I`m dazzled.
Keep up the good work and sharing it with us!
Victor.
Have you checked all the voltages, grounds, etc?
That's strange indeed...
It is your erros on the ABS the same as on the video?
@@LMAutoRepairs Yes the 2 big grounds are there, the 2 big pozitives also there, one of these was broken (the red) and now is fixed.
Same C1381 recirculating pump / electrical fault / permanent.
How long does it take for the abs ecu to realise the pump is working? I said before that i can activate it from diagnosis, it's really working.
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Should straight away, after codes cleared and ignition cycled...
great job. thank you
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Where is installed the srs ECU Peugeot 307 HDI 2004? Thanks
Centre console... near the handbrake...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Thanks. I find it🥳🥳🥳
Poor reused diode... It deserved some retirement... :)
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How do i get on premium member how to pay and so?
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You mean on TH-cam premium?
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Is there a chart on Google ? Is it possible to take the link from you
What you mean with a chart?
@@LMAutoRepairs Yes Datasheet
Hi,
I just watched this video and would truly congratulate you for your bright mind.
If you can trace a fault this way and find out what is going wrong, I recall the issue of the BPGA (Battery Management Unit) on PSA vehicles (mine is C4 II B7 120 VTi).
When I asked you if the unit can be repaired you said it's tricky and better replaced.
Now I have the Citroën diagnosis of the issue and it says the the ss relay inside the unit is faulty.
Now I have the wiring official diagram. Is it possible to open the unit like you did here and just replace the faulty relay like you did with the diods.
Possibly... if you are sure that the relay is the issue, might worth a try...
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What are you talking about?
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this duble module fuel pump and abs , what is mark diods ?? in4007 or en 4007 ?? pls correct mark thx
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Nothing to correct...
Got the problem fixed as you might have seen on the video...
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im watch you video god job men , my engish is bad you speek in you movie , mark daiods diods , en 4007 or in 4007 im dont understad in or en ,you help mee ??
another great video diagram let you down
It did a bit...
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I got same fault code c1381 but had broken wire from abs relay.
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I had the same problem with ABS but i found bud connection in the brake switch
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hi guys i would like to know what is your numebr phone and where are you located in uk?
Hi Guys... Does anyone deal with P1527 error code in Peugeot 307 (2006)? From 2 weeks now, I have ABS warning light (ABS faulty) follow with Automatic Gearbox Faulty. After that car switch like to safety mode?? Any suggestions?
Thank You for this channel. A great knowledge about the things :)
I am Brazil, meu carro está aparecendo as mesmas luz stop ABS and break
Test lights were always a thing that confused me. The way I think of them now is that it just lights up to confirm the opposite of what you're connected to
Connected to ground --lights up for power
Connected to power -- lights up for ground
At least I think still confusing
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You are king
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I need solution for c1310
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I believe that is something to do with the ESP sensors... or yaw sensors...
Check wiring etc... otherwise it can be a simple bad sensor...
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Why is the clock flashing on top of the dash
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@@LMAutoRepairs thank you for replying you make great video's
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VAN and CAN are confusing with Diagbox
Yes... I get confused sometimes as well...
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Mine has esp and steering angle fault after removing the subframe and steering rack
Have relearned the steering angle sensor?
Have you scanned the car to see what he is complaining about?
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When the steering rack dropped down it pulled the steering shaft apart at the spline. I already calibrated it. 👍 No drama. Just need a wheel alignment. Ask steering and suspension parts are new 😛.
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Great video keep it up 😉👍
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ZDRAVO KOD MENE GODI LAMPICA OD ABS PEUGEOT 307 HDI 2003 PROVJERIJO SAM NA ZADNJEM OBADVA SENZORA POKAZUJE 640 DA LI JE TO U REDU MOLIM ZA POMOC HVALA
English would be great!
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@@LMAutoRepairs Hello my ABS light is on on my Peugeot 307 hdi 2003 2.0 66 i checked both rear sensors via a multimeter shwing 640 on both if this is ok and which could be a problem please help thank you
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Scan the car... and see live data... your answer will be there...
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@@LMAutoRepairs i don t hava a channer
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Tricky then...
You can be spending a lot of time... is like shooting in the dark...
See if you can get someone to give it a scan for you...
My 2012 Peugeot 308 diesel only 29000 miles warning lights came on including the power steering and the power steering failed while i was driving ... the fault was the alternator apparently if your battery drops below about 11 volts all hell breaks out the car will try to kill you and your passengers ... new alternator £500 fitter ... sound expensive but the alternator was about £400..
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EXISTS 307 VAN AND CAN
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Problem with the car: it's French
One of the problems...lol
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so,i gather english is your secomd language then??
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French cars are such pitas....
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They can be indeed...
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