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That's in the movie..... in the comics Hitler dies 1945..... but the BUAP Stories are even crazier than what we learn from the movie. And the occult cold War..... boy, that is some good stuff.
For all the people reposting links to speculative fiction about how Hitler escaped, or whatever…. Please don’t - it’s scientifically established that he died in Berlin, on April 30, 1945. In 2017 an independent international team of forensic scientists led by French coroner, forensic pathologist and paleopathologist Philippe Charlier, were given unrestricted access to the jawbone in the Moscow archives. By comparing the jawbone and X-rays of the jawbone to the five X-ray plates of Hitler’s skull, they conclusively showed that they match. That’s a match that is equivalent to a fingerprint, or iris comparison. They also performed a variety of forensic chemical tests on the jawbone to confirm its authenticity. The study was presented in the European Journal of Internal Medicine for peer review. That review confirmed Charlier’s conclusion that “there is no possible doubt. Our study proves that Hitler died in 1945 [in Berlin]."
If you understand the Fuhrer’s psychology, you’d know that Gotterdammerung in Berlin was his preferred ending to running and hiding like a hunted rat!. But conspiracy nuts want to think he’s living in Antartica or on the Moon!
@@spartacus-olssonThere's more "evidence" that Osama was kllled than there is for Hitler. "There is no possible doubt" That's a lot of faith yur putting in there.
When they filmed the dark comedy, "Death of Stalin", the costume director reduced the number of medals on Zhukov's uniform because he thought the audience would never believe the number of medals he actually wore in real life
@evocorporation6537 Even when Stalin was alive, he knew he could never execute Zhukov without throwing all his power and credibility away. Zhukov fucked Germany. He can handle a fat lump in a waist coat.
I've never heard of anyone saying he's still alive these days. The conspiracy theories usually are about post war escape, no? But maybe I've never came across the weirdos who would believe something like that haha.
Soviet internal politics. Party ruled until '42 which didn't go great, then the arny was given some leg room, things like old style shoulder boards etc, then with the European war over the party needed to take control again. Time to reign in Zhukov and others a little less they get too powerful. Stalin really was a cowardly little shit.
One of the many reasons for Stalin perpetuating the myth of Hitlers escape was he knew the free press in the West would lap it up and go chasing ghosts, which they have and still do to this day.
He also wanted to give a kick to the West is Bad lie on which Soviet and now modern Russian propaganda relies. They don’t call the West Fash for funsies, the lie that the West is harboring mustache boy is necessary for claiming that any who oppose Moscow are his minions.
I am pleased to see that the thumbnail for this episode is an image created by Erwin Blumenfeld. His art has been an inspiration to me over the past couple years. He deserves to be better known.
@@gizmophoto3577 Thanks! Seeing the subject of this episodes, his collages were my immediate go-to:) Blumenfeld's work is one of my inspirations too, especially in photography.
That's incredible the x-rays were not compared with the dental remains until 2017. I'd always thought that, as of April 1945, everyone just knew or at least assumed Hitler was in fact dead. Didn't realize the uncertainty about it, especially in the years immediately afterward. Thank you for telling the story so comprehensively, Spartacus!
as Argentinian the myth is quite alive even today that Hitler escaped Berlin. Just dental remains as proof of his body is quite odd to me. The Nazis were quite aware and had experiences dealing with bodies, the remains, and especially the dental remains of Jews. So I am sorry to hesitate of the sudden "Oh yes Hitler was cremated, here is the dental proof of it"...
I am always reminded of Rod Serlings closing narration of the stellar Twilight Zone Episode "He´s Alive": "Where will he go next, this phantom from another time, this resurrected ghost of a previous nightmare - Chicago? Los Angeles? Miami, Florida? Vincennes, Indiana? Syracuse, New York? Anyplace, everyplace, where there's hate, where there's prejudice, where there's bigotry. He's alive. He's alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind, unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. He's alive because through these things we keep him alive."
@@darrylkraatz1482 I highly recommend it, it has a young Dennis Hooper playing a Neo-Nazi leader, who struggles to gain a following, until....well, you have to see it, saying more would spoil it.
I imagine Stalin was also reluctant to accept Hitler's death because he wanted to get his own personal revenge on him. He seems like the type who would hold on to that sort of grudge, after all, so if there was any hope that Hitler might still be alive somewhere that he could eventually catch him at, he'd probably give that a lot more credence than most.
@@browngreen933 Not really? Especially on the military side. I don't think Felton has given a measured coverage of tactics, logistic and combined that with graphics in the same way that these guys have, nor has he covered the politics of the China-India-Burma or the North African front to the same degree, nor any sort coverage on the East African, Borneo (1945) and Ichi Go
@@blueboats Sounds like current affairs in the US, except our political parties are doing it to us. Always a villain on the horizon from the other side.
We rarely hear about the Jews that survived in hiding throughout the war. It must have been an incredibly tense time being in the shadow death. The stress and anxiety must have been its own terror.
And he would be a political (thermonuclear) hot potato. Any nation hosting Hitler would face the possibility of having the Soviet and US navies lingering off the coast, negotiating between themselves as to how to divide the country. And the Mossad would be in there as well, since the agent that captures Hitler would be the most popular Jew since Jesus. Also Hitler would have gone mad if he was alive, knowing that there was an entire country of Jews created (indirectly) by his policies.
@@michaelfodor6280i agree with all of that except the part about Israel. Hitler discussed deporting all the Jews into a land for them outside of europe often before the war. Obviously they would have been far more mistreated in this scenario, but a country for jews outside of Europe was not outside possibility for him.
After the war, Hugo Blaschke took a job at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant as the deputy chief engineer. Some said that he was neither great nor terrible at it.
I really appreciate Spartacus I was worried some topics wouldn't be covered but Spartacus has done a great job tying up loose ends that didn't make it to the regular
Thank you Sparty and Indy. I so appreciate the final comments about how people malign the past for a variety of reasons. History is not always lost, even though events are remembered differently by people over time. Again thank you for what you all are doing! :)
This is one of the many flaws of the Soviet system: If you act as if no one is trustworthy, no evidence that anyone offers will be enough if said evidence points to a politically undesirable conclusion.
@@ilokivi His death was desired. What was not desired was lack of brutal punishment. Their system was focused on revenge (like sentencing a hygienist who treated him to eight years in prison) and anything that cheated them of their prey was not desired.
You’d think that the Russians would have enough sense to show the dentist fake dental remains to see if he would lie, or show the dentist one set and the technician a different set. I mean there had to be no shortage of dental remains in Berlin.
Are we sure that the Red Skull didn't snatch up Hitler's body for some nefarious Hydra project? I mean it's about as possible as that madman surviving imo
Don’t be stupid! Everyone knows that Hitler survived, fled to castle Wolfenstein and was robotisized with 4 chain guns. It was only thanks to American OSS agent B.J. Blazkowicz that senor hitler was finally decommissioned for good. Sad to see so many young people not know their history.
This reminds me of the Chevy Chase opening of Weekend Update on SNL. "I'm Chevy Chase, and you're not. Our top story tonight; Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead."
Excellent Sparty! I've seen a number of sensationalist you tube vids about various aspects of this controversy, but this is the first I've seen that tied it all together, in your inimitable way.
Hitler's death by his own hand in the bunker is so anticlimatic it must be true. If he had any courage he would have armed his party with weapons, sought out a battle in the Reichchancellery and gone down in a blaze of glory. If the Soviets had found him he would have had a huge public trial and probably ended his days kept in a small cage at Stalin's house. If the Allies caught him he would have had a front row seat at Nuremburg and a date with the hangman. He was likely the most identifiable person to the entire world by the end of ww2. He would not have been able to hide anywhere for long. Hitler would have killed himself because it was the option he suffered the least.
You are one of the few historians that call Ava, Ava Hitler. Other historians acknowledge the fact that they were married in the bunker but they will not call her by her married name. I don't really care either way but I just found it interesting that some do but most wont. This was a good show. Thank you.
We’re sticklers for that study of thing. She officially changed her name just after the ‘ceremony’ this she died Eva Hitler. Now, the reason this is often ignored is simple: it’s confusing in any text and cumbersome to deal with two names, and her time as Frau Hitler lasted less than 24 hours… note that we call call her Eva Braun at least once in the script for this video, which I realized while recording, but decided to not go back and re-record, because it was confusing that way anyway.
I like how Spartacus does the full German pronunciations..Imagine youre a German Panzer commander.."This is Tiger battalion 505!We need emergency fuel supply-our recon has a way to destroy Zhukovs headquarters!..whaddya mean you used it all to burn the Fuhrer?"
Another great episode I was looking forward to. The Fall of the iron curtain and opening of the sovjet archives was without any doubt a golden opportunity for historians and scholars all over the World.
Still crazy after all these years. Great video, seems like the mystery is over. Somebody will always speculate that he escaped by submarine or some other way. The simple truth is not appealing enough to the suspicious.
Yeah the idea he somehow escaped is ludacris when you take into account that during the battle of Berlin the city was completely encircled by the Red Army and the Soviets and allies had compete control over all possible routes of escape. Also at this time Hitler would 56 years old with a deteriorating mental and physical state trying to escape an active war zone.
If he didn't commit suicide in the bunker and somehow escaped, he is most certainly dead by now. If he did die in the bunker, he's still dead. Either way, justice was not served.
Even if he escaped, he lost the war. What secret plans could he run behind the scenes that he wouldn't also screw up? The myth is more powerful than the body would be, the myth leaves the door open. Closing it confidently is saying we never need to refer to it again. To never forget, is to admit the utility of observing dangers
If anyone has a few hours to spare Mark Felton did a multipart series about Hitler's and Braun's bodies. He does a deep dive on the contractions between witnesses, reports, and the bodies themselves.
@@whysoserious8666 we have not - at the moment it’s not on our schedule. If we do it, it will be part of our legacy content after the chronological coverage ends, until then we’re fully blocked out.
He's having a soft veggie, burger at Elvis's Atlantis retirement home. He dropped his dentures years ago and his dentist doesn't return calls - he's Fuhrerious.
This whole story of claims and counterclaims and lies would be laughable if I didn't also remember how terrifing it must have been, particularly in the waning days of the war and right after the surreneder, to not know the exact truth, without a doubt. I do wish they'd caught him alive though. Talk about the trial of the century...
Sorry Sparty but ‘Rare Stairs’ instead of Rear stairs had me giggling. I think they were RARE indeed to be such a historic passageway for a very brief time.
Wow! Thank you very much for detailing the identification of Hitler and Eva’s dental work; over the years I had heard considerable misinformation about his identification (or lack thereof). His death was quite certain, however: with his irrational delusions, he most certainly could not have quietly slinked away to live out his life, but instead he would have again begun spouting his inflammatory rhetoric elsewhere.
Hitler was in rather bad health at the end of the war and not really in any shape to go on the run for any extended period. It is interesting though to speculate on what he would have done had he gotten out. That and by the photo Kathe Heusermann was pretty hot.
I'm a Boomer born '55. By mid '60s I had read Shirer's two books 'Rise and Fall of the Third Reich' and 'The Rise and Fall of Adolf Hitler' as well as Chirchill and Eisenhower. Just think how grammar school kids love dinosaurs today, that's how I was about WWII until I discovered GIRLS (but that's another story) I am trying to think when I discovered the Soviet disinformation plots. That would have been in the 1970 as I was preparing for college. I remember the female corpse story and followed the post-Soviet documents releases that confirmed what was IMHO solid speculative forensics without the final "bridgework" story. It's fun to look back at how my understanding of these events differed and changed over those years.
Came here to say this if no-one else had. Fascinating. For anyone interested basically the idea is that the corpse of Hitler is a fake but he was probably buried somewhere else in the compound so that the Soviets would never find his real body
Mark Felton is also very helpful in examining all evidence and arguments objectively before giving his opinion. There was enough oddities about the claimed bodies to make someone question if they are the true bodies of the Hitlers. However, whether or not they are dead is less unclear.
@@JimbotheoneI was going to say what you two gentlemen said. Mark Felton did a great job looking at the different problems of what happened to Hitler. The question of Hitler's fate isn't as cut and dry and "don't you dare question it as this video portrays." There are a few holes in the story. (Personally I believe Hitler did die in the bunker and the dental records are the proof. But at least one body double probably made it to Argentina)
Mark Felton is a plagiarist pos who literally got hired by David Cameron once to "make Britain's history look better" he's a consumate hack and I wouldn't trust a word he says Amongst near countless examples I think my favourite was his once-implying that the only reason Vietnam 'fell' to communism is because the British Army wasn't there to stop it. It would be hilarious if he wasn't so extensively watched. Alas...
I read an article once about Joseph Mengele's fairly-boring death by drowning in 1979 in South America. The Mossad had been hunting him for decades but the trail had run cold, and they refused to accept that anyone that evil could have died so uneventfully. The article wrapped up saying it is human nature that those who would wish someone's death so passionately would refuse to believe just as passionately that it was true.
Hello TGA and company. This is a follow up to a post I submitted yesterday regarding a video I recommended from Author/Historian and TH-camr Mark Felton. After doing some research myself I can easily understand why I received the rebuke that I did from the members of this channel and Spartacus himself. Apparently, Dr. Felton really is a known plagiarist and sometimes fails miserably in one of the most critical elements of any respectable research: a bibliography. When I was working on both my BA and MA any work that I presented either for a grade or a professional paper presentation would NOT have even been accepted and graded without said bibliography. I made the rather naive assumption that because Felton has a PhD by his name that his work was credible; an assumption that after 48 years of reading, studying and most of all loving history is something I should be embarrassed by, and truthfully, I am. My apologies. As the saying goes you are certainly NEVER too old to learn. Thanks, TGA for the professional/critical feedback it was well deserved. Randy Forman, a proud, and now somewhat humbled Texan.
This is possibly the most gracious response to an exchange we’ve received on the channel. Heartfelt thanks both for the gesture itself, and the thorough reasoning. ❤
@@spartacus-olsson A thousand thank-yous Mr. Olsson, I take that as a great compliment. Some people might consider it anachronistic and archaic, but when I was reared up in Texas I was raised to live by a code. One of the things my father taught me was that it takes a real man to admit when he is wrong. I see being wrong as an opportunity for growth and learning. After some further research regarding the claims of plagiarism concerning Dr. Felton, I actually unsubscribed from his channel this morning. Besides, between your channel, Sabaton, The Chieftan and The Imperial War Museum channel I have practically a lifetime of content to study and absorb anyway. For those of y'all not familiar with Texas or Texan culture we have a well-deserved reputation for being arrogant, loud-mouth braggarts. In reference to my last posting about being a "somewhat humbled Texan", I have a question for you. What is rarer than a humble Texan? A blizzard in downtown Dallas in mid-August! Have a fabulous day sir!
Historians have always been puzzled by the note they found in der Fuhrerbunker: "I am not yet dead. I can sing and I can dance. I am not yet dead. I've been played by Bruno Ganz. I am not yet dead. No need to call the Reds. I'm going out for strudel 'Cause I'm not yet dead."
I wonder what would Hitler say on all those conspiracy theories about his death. I know that I would be in disbelief and cringe while finding out about it, haha. Btw, Hitler artwork on thumbnail reminds me of Pazuzu from The Exorcist
What an interesting case. I remember in the 1970s, there was still strong debate on what happened to Adolf Hitler. It's up there with D.B. Cooper, and other VIP disappearance cases. Always figured, this was one of those files, that would still be classified, long after the standard 25 years of the window of declassification, would pass. I would have expected Hitler to get out of Germany way before the end of the war. Time Ghost Army...you almost had me reach for my tin foil hat here. hehe.
It’s somewhat relevant… it’s a beach stone, and has pieces of shrapnel embedded in it. It witnessed the coming of a great armada, and the first men to storm the shores of occupied Europe and pass through the gates of hell, on the way to heaven, through the Nazi lines.
The best conspiracy theory I heard about Hitler surviving was that he escaped and lived as a hermit in a cave in Italy with hundreds of tinned beans to keep him fed 🤣
Well, there goes the idea put forward by Monty Python's Flying Circus that he would go on to run for parliament in the North Minehead By-Election (the voters didn't like the sound of "boncentration bamps").
My sister-in-law is convinced that mustache man survived the war and fled to the Argentina. Could someone convince her otherwise?Let's say that it's more likely that my late mother would rise up from her grave than to my sister-in-law change her mind on her beliefs,regardless how absurd they could be...
I was also very skeptical of Mark Felton’s videos about the deaths of Hitler and Martin Borman. Besides, a WAH on the death of Martin Borman could also be very interesting. So I don’t know how to position myself on Mark Felton’s videos. On the one hand, I have the impression that he does in-depth research on certain subjects and on the other, I have the impression that he seeks sensationalism more than anything else on other subjects.
@@matthisbonnet5951 Mark Felton has done so many videos on basically the same subject he is running out of content on WW2 that a major audience would watch. This is why he is using clickbait-like titels. If he would spend atleast a bit of time to edit his videos not with standard windows movie maker from 2011 his audience could easily watch other videos than the 7th "what happened to hitlers gun?" or 4th "hitlers secret vehicles".
Felton is a not a historian, he makes convincing sounding videos from fringe theories. Fine if you take it with a grain of salt just like the History Channel but look a bit further if you value proper historical consensus.
@@PiddelIMHO, there are still a lot of WWII topics Felton could cover. The activities of the US 10th Mountain Division is one, as is the Brazilian Expeditionary Force. But to do a quality feature on the latter would likely require fluency in Portuguese, & I don't know how willing Felton is to take on that challenge.
I think he went from his hidingplace in southamerica to the future.That means he will reappear in seventeen years(if he went houndred years into the future). The evidence is in the research regarding"DieGlocke"that was a timemachine developed in the southamerica before ww2.A testflight was done in the 60's,but the german in it managed to send it back before he was apprehended by the americans near Los Angeles or San Diego(where hitler lived his last years).
Did H have a double with similar dental work? If my “punishment” for telling the truth is the same for lying then why tell the truth? Only thing we know is a dental bridge was found. There is an opinion that it is a match for H due to an x-ray reviewed against a description of the dental work. How many cancers/fractures/foreign bodies are missed today with x-rays? IMHO
Well… opinions aside, that’s not possible. Dental forensics is an established science, and it’s virtually impossible to create a double that includes actual teeth, much the same way you can’t fake fingerprints, or irises. It’s too complex… sure, you can build a model in resin or something, but not the actual teeth and the jawbone, or for that matter not any biological piece of anatomy that fits the original 100%. In the case of Hitler’s jawbone, four of the teeth are his own, and the other are prosthetics on the bridge. Because the jaw and exact placement of teeth are unique to each one of us, it’s also impossible to fake the dental work, so you get a triple whammy. A. The jaw matches. B. The teeth match, and C. The bridge matches. Since we have five X-ray plates of his skull from different angles, the match is incontestable. Now, while we might be careful to say that it’s definitely impossible to fake all of this in 2024, we can say for certain that it was definitely impossible in 1945. As in absolutely impossible beyond even the slightest doubt.
Occam is your friend, please listen to him. There is no evidence that he had or used one and the notion that a microphone hogging narcissist would allow ANYONE to look like him or take his place in anything is just silly.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Nazi hunters were relentless after the war were they not? There's no chance he would've gone undetected anywhere in the world, even if him escaping was plausible in any way.
Wow Chuikov must have felt like king of the world,when a Nazi general goes to him with a white flag,like Stalingrad over 2 years ago.How far weve come he must have thought.
The fate of Hitler’s remains is a fascinating insight into the early Cold War and the manipulation of history that is still so prevalent in the 21st century. Join the Timeghost Army so we can continue fighting the battle for truth www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory
That's in the movie..... in the comics Hitler dies 1945..... but the BUAP Stories are even crazier than what we learn from the movie. And the occult cold War..... boy, that is some good stuff.
That thumbnail sent shivers down my spine the moment the notification came...
For all the people reposting links to speculative fiction about how Hitler escaped, or whatever…. Please don’t - it’s scientifically established that he died in Berlin, on April 30, 1945.
In 2017 an independent international team of forensic scientists led by French coroner, forensic pathologist and paleopathologist Philippe Charlier, were given unrestricted access to the jawbone in the Moscow archives. By comparing the jawbone and X-rays of the jawbone to the five X-ray plates of Hitler’s skull, they conclusively showed that they match. That’s a match that is equivalent to a fingerprint, or iris comparison. They also performed a variety of forensic chemical tests on the jawbone to confirm its authenticity. The study was presented in the European Journal of Internal Medicine for peer review. That review confirmed Charlier’s conclusion that “there is no possible doubt. Our study proves that Hitler died in 1945 [in Berlin]."
If you understand the Fuhrer’s psychology, you’d know that Gotterdammerung in Berlin was his preferred ending to running and hiding like a hunted rat!. But conspiracy nuts want to think he’s living in Antartica or on the Moon!
@@spartacus-olssonThere's more "evidence" that Osama was kllled than there is for Hitler.
"There is no possible doubt"
That's a lot of faith yur putting in there.
"Find Hitler's Dentist!" would be a great title for a Mel Brooks film!
I hear he's producing Space Balls 2
Its not well known Mel Brooks served in 63rd Div in Europe..
@@dudesqrthen perhaps film "Find Hitler's Balls"!
At first I thought a dark comedy would be great but the poor assistant being raped completely dashed that idea to me :(
😂🎉💯
When they filmed the dark comedy, "Death of Stalin", the costume director reduced the number of medals on Zhukov's uniform because he thought the audience would never believe the number of medals he actually wore in real life
And he was still badass in that movie. Maybe the two AK-47s hidden in his jacket helped.
A wide chest was mandatory to become soviet general.
@evocorporation6537 Even when Stalin was alive, he knew he could never execute Zhukov without throwing all his power and credibility away.
Zhukov fucked Germany. He can handle a fat lump in a waist coat.
Epic movie!!!
North Koreans wear their fathers and grandfathers medals as well as their own. Wonder they can still walk around.
Some conspiracy theorists keep insisting he's still alive, and somehow completely disregard the fact he would be almost 130 years old by now.
Nazy technology.
I've never heard of anyone saying he's still alive these days. The conspiracy theories usually are about post war escape, no? But maybe I've never came across the weirdos who would believe something like that haha.
130 is nothing when you are in a mecha body.
Hitler was born in April of 1889. If he was alive today, he would be 135 years old.
Nah he's on the moon.
Stalin accusing Zhukov of egoism is just too funny, he obviously didn't have one iota of self-reflection lol.
Soviet internal politics. Party ruled until '42 which didn't go great, then the arny was given some leg room, things like old style shoulder boards etc, then with the European war over the party needed to take control again. Time to reign in Zhukov and others a little less they get too powerful.
Stalin really was a cowardly little shit.
@@111doomer Yup, behind every oversized ego is massive insecurity
One of the many reasons for Stalin perpetuating the myth of Hitlers escape was he knew the free press in the West would lap it up and go chasing ghosts, which they have and still do to this day.
He also wanted to give a kick to the West is Bad lie on which Soviet and now modern Russian propaganda relies. They don’t call the West Fash for funsies, the lie that the West is harboring mustache boy is necessary for claiming that any who oppose Moscow are his minions.
Now it’s just called trolling 😂
Nonsense
I am pleased to see that the thumbnail for this episode is an image created by Erwin Blumenfeld. His art has been an inspiration to me over the past couple years. He deserves to be better known.
Mikolaj's idea! Thanks for the comment.
@@WorldWarTwo Cheers to Mikolaj!
@@gizmophoto3577 Thanks! Seeing the subject of this episodes, his collages were my immediate go-to:) Blumenfeld's work is one of my inspirations too, especially in photography.
That's incredible the x-rays were not compared with the dental remains until 2017. I'd always thought that, as of April 1945, everyone just knew or at least assumed Hitler was in fact dead. Didn't realize the uncertainty about it, especially in the years immediately afterward. Thank you for telling the story so comprehensively, Spartacus!
Thanks for watching!
as Argentinian the myth is quite alive even today that Hitler escaped Berlin. Just dental remains as proof of his body is quite odd to me. The Nazis were quite aware and had experiences dealing with bodies, the remains, and especially the dental remains of Jews. So I am sorry to hesitate of the sudden "Oh yes Hitler was cremated, here is the dental proof of it"...
I am always reminded of Rod Serlings closing narration of the stellar Twilight Zone Episode "He´s Alive": "Where will he go next, this phantom from another time, this resurrected ghost of a previous nightmare - Chicago? Los Angeles? Miami, Florida? Vincennes, Indiana? Syracuse, New York? Anyplace, everyplace, where there's hate, where there's prejudice, where there's bigotry. He's alive. He's alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind, unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. He's alive because through these things we keep him alive."
Very fitting, never saw the episode but profound words.
@@darrylkraatz1482 I highly recommend it, it has a young Dennis Hooper playing a Neo-Nazi leader, who struggles to gain a following, until....well, you have to see it, saying more would spoil it.
As someone with family from (near) Vincennes, Indiana, it is very funny that he names that city specifically
I imagine Stalin was also reluctant to accept Hitler's death because he wanted to get his own personal revenge on him. He seems like the type who would hold on to that sort of grudge, after all, so if there was any hope that Hitler might still be alive somewhere that he could eventually catch him at, he'd probably give that a lot more credence than most.
Hands down this is the best WWII channel on YT. I consider this to be equal to the Battlefield series from the late 90s.
Well, it helos that they have covered campaigns and battles that the Battlefield series hasn't
@@browngreen933 Not really? Especially on the military side. I don't think Felton has given a measured coverage of tactics, logistic and combined that with graphics in the same way that these guys have, nor has he covered the politics of the China-India-Burma or the North African front to the same degree, nor any sort coverage on the East African, Borneo (1945) and Ichi Go
Thank you very much for the kind words.
Pretty sure he's on the dark side of the moon
Iron Sky?
No, he's bellow the Ice of Antarctica.
Brought there by Kubrick, no doubt.
Far side
'Dark side of the moon'. He joined Pink Floyd.
The need for a persistent external enemy to keep your subjects paranoid and loyal
Exactly. They needed a new Goldstein to replace Trotsky.
@@blueboats Sounds like current affairs in the US, except our political parties are doing it to us. Always a villain on the horizon from the other side.
Best summation I have ever heard of all the twists, turns and lies that followed Hitler's death. Tough to pull al the strings together. Excellent job.
He'd be 135 years old so I'd certainly hope so.
We rarely hear about the Jews that survived in hiding throughout the war.
It must have been an incredibly tense time being in the shadow death.
The stress and anxiety must have been its own terror.
The notion that such a narcissist as Hitler could lie low for the better part of a century is one of the most absurd parts of these theories.
Yeah, definitely a good point. It's hard to think he could even get away with being hidden that long regardless.
@@brazenatheist1676 he went out of his way to be recognized. Hell, his propaganda *still* works.
And he would be a political (thermonuclear) hot potato. Any nation hosting Hitler would face the possibility of having the Soviet and US navies lingering off the coast, negotiating between themselves as to how to divide the country. And the Mossad would be in there as well, since the agent that captures Hitler would be the most popular Jew since Jesus.
Also Hitler would have gone mad if he was alive, knowing that there was an entire country of Jews created (indirectly) by his policies.
Youd get a "unafilliated" team of heavily armed and equiped soldiers dropping in and turning hitler into minced meat instantly
@@michaelfodor6280i agree with all of that except the part about Israel. Hitler discussed deporting all the Jews into a land for them outside of europe often before the war. Obviously they would have been far more mistreated in this scenario, but a country for jews outside of Europe was not outside possibility for him.
After the war, Hugo Blaschke took a job at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant as the deputy chief engineer. Some said that he was neither great nor terrible at it.
He only got up to 3.6 Röntgen before the whole thing blew up in his face
That wasn't graphite on the roof.
It's not 3.6 Röntgen....
It's 15,000
22:08 Isn’t this the third decade of the century? Fascinating episode, I never knew about any of this.
Here in my end of the world we call it the second. Others call it third.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Thank you very much for the superchat!
I really appreciate Spartacus I was worried some topics wouldn't be covered but Spartacus has done a great job tying up loose ends that didn't make it to the regular
Thank you Sparty and Indy. I so appreciate the final comments about how people malign the past for a variety of reasons. History is not always lost, even though events are remembered differently by people over time. Again thank you for what you all are doing! :)
This is one of the many flaws of the Soviet system: If you act as if no one is trustworthy, no evidence that anyone offers will be enough if said evidence points to a politically undesirable conclusion.
It's like the 'post truth' world of Putin and Trump. Reality is despised, and the opinion of powerful men is not to be questioned.
And there was I, regarding Hitler’s death as a politically desirable outcome. Silly.
Whatever the Soviet government said then just as whatever the Russian government says now, it could/can all be safely assumed to be a lie.
@@ilokivi His death was desired. What was not desired was lack of brutal punishment. Their system was focused on revenge (like sentencing a hygienist who treated him to eight years in prison) and anything that cheated them of their prey was not desired.
You’d think that the Russians would have enough sense to show the dentist fake dental remains to see if he would lie, or show the dentist one set and the technician a different set. I mean there had to be no shortage of dental remains in Berlin.
Are we sure that the Red Skull didn't snatch up Hitler's body for some nefarious Hydra project? I mean it's about as possible as that madman surviving imo
To be fair, the comic where correct in some aspects of this:
The USSR did snatch Hitlers body up for some nefarious project. That being propaganda
Google "Hate Monger" and "Marvel Comics" if are not a a comics fan.
Don’t be stupid! Everyone knows that Hitler survived, fled to castle Wolfenstein and was robotisized with 4 chain guns.
It was only thanks to American OSS agent B.J. Blazkowicz that senor hitler was finally decommissioned for good.
Sad to see so many young people not know their history.
This reminds me of the Chevy Chase opening of Weekend Update on SNL. "I'm Chevy Chase, and you're not. Our top story tonight; Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead."
"No he's not. He and his brother, (The Immortal) got away..."
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Thank you very much for the super chat!
I love the formality you treat this subject with
Dr. Mark Felton has an excellent , truthful, accurate series on this very subject.
You beat me to the comment, and I agree 100%.
Mark Felton has great content because and is always researching in government archives as they become avaliable.
Is this meant to be ironic or something
The internet needs a sarcastic font
Dr. Mark 'Wikipedia' Felton?
Excellent Sparty! I've seen a number of sensationalist you tube vids about various aspects of this controversy, but this is the first I've seen that tied it all together, in your inimitable way.
Hitler's death by his own hand in the bunker is so anticlimatic it must be true.
If he had any courage he would have armed his party with weapons, sought out a battle in the Reichchancellery and gone down in a blaze of glory.
If the Soviets had found him he would have had a huge public trial and probably ended his days kept in a small cage at Stalin's house.
If the Allies caught him he would have had a front row seat at Nuremburg and a date with the hangman.
He was likely the most identifiable person to the entire world by the end of ww2. He would not have been able to hide anywhere for long.
Hitler would have killed himself because it was the option he suffered the least.
Thanks, keep up the AWESOME work!
You are one of the few historians that call Ava, Ava Hitler. Other historians acknowledge the fact that they were married in the bunker but they will not call her by her married name. I don't really care either way but I just found it interesting that some do but most wont.
This was a good show. Thank you.
We’re sticklers for that study of thing. She officially changed her name just after the ‘ceremony’ this she died Eva Hitler. Now, the reason this is often ignored is simple: it’s confusing in any text and cumbersome to deal with two names, and her time as Frau Hitler lasted less than 24 hours… note that we call call her Eva Braun at least once in the script for this video, which I realized while recording, but decided to not go back and re-record, because it was confusing that way anyway.
Dear Spartacus, for the first time I caught you! 15:59 you forgot the Moon! Nur spass :)
It's really something that so many people don't realize how bad open air cremations are at burning human remains.
"That Hitler's dead!"
"He's not dead, he's just sleeping".
Hi Sparty.
Great explanation.
Nice to hear what is truth.
Superb, thank you Sparty & team
Thank you for the comment.
I like how Spartacus does the full German pronunciations..Imagine youre a German Panzer commander.."This is Tiger battalion 505!We need emergency fuel supply-our recon has a way to destroy Zhukovs headquarters!..whaddya mean you used it all to burn the Fuhrer?"
Lookin sharp as always Sparti❤
Another great episode I was looking forward to. The Fall of the iron curtain and opening of the sovjet archives was without any doubt a golden opportunity for historians and scholars all over the World.
Glad you enjoyed!
Your German pronunciation is extremely good.
Still crazy after all these years. Great video, seems like the mystery is over. Somebody will always speculate that he escaped by submarine or some other way. The simple truth is not appealing enough to the suspicious.
Yeah the idea he somehow escaped is ludacris when you take into account that during the battle of Berlin the city was completely encircled by the Red Army and the Soviets and allies had compete control over all possible routes of escape. Also at this time Hitler would 56 years old with a deteriorating mental and physical state trying to escape an active war zone.
Anyone else having a "dejà-vu" experience in comparing past Soviet and present Russian press release tactics?
12:00 I hear birds, anyone else?
Yep, where the studio is located in the hotter seasons they tend to get pretty loud!
If he didn't commit suicide in the bunker and somehow escaped, he is most certainly dead by now. If he did die in the bunker, he's still dead. Either way, justice was not served.
I truly believe Hitler& Ava died in that bunker❤
Even if he escaped, he lost the war. What secret plans could he run behind the scenes that he wouldn't also screw up? The myth is more powerful than the body would be, the myth leaves the door open. Closing it confidently is saying we never need to refer to it again. To never forget, is to admit the utility of observing dangers
If anyone has a few hours to spare Mark Felton did a multipart series about Hitler's and Braun's bodies. He does a deep dive on the contractions between witnesses, reports, and the bodies themselves.
I hate to tell you, but his conclusions in that series are not up to the professional historiographical standards.
@@spartacus-olssonmark does a Himmler death video. I’d like to see a time ghost episode. Have you done one already?
@@whysoserious8666 we have not - at the moment it’s not on our schedule. If we do it, it will be part of our legacy content after the chronological coverage ends, until then we’re fully blocked out.
Naw . . . he's with Elvis, man! 🤣🤣
So where are those dental fragments now?
Russia.
-TimeGhost Ambassador
they were bought by that billionaire that funds Clarence Thomas
He's having a soft veggie, burger at Elvis's Atlantis retirement home. He dropped his dentures years ago and his dentist doesn't return calls - he's Fuhrerious.
This whole story of claims and counterclaims and lies would be laughable if I didn't also remember how terrifing it must have been, particularly in the waning days of the war and right after the surreneder, to not know the exact truth, without a doubt. I do wish they'd caught him alive though. Talk about the trial of the century...
Well spoken sir!
Sorry Sparty but ‘Rare Stairs’ instead of Rear stairs had me giggling. I think they were RARE indeed to be such a historic passageway for a very brief time.
If not rare, then at least secret…
Wow! Thank you very much for detailing the identification of Hitler and Eva’s dental work; over the years I had heard considerable misinformation about his identification (or lack thereof). His death was quite certain, however: with his irrational delusions, he most certainly could not have quietly slinked away to live out his life, but instead he would have again begun spouting his inflammatory rhetoric elsewhere.
Hitler was in rather bad health at the end of the war and not really in any shape to go on the run for any extended period. It is interesting though to speculate on what he would have done had he gotten out. That and by the photo Kathe Heusermann was pretty hot.
I'm a Boomer born '55. By mid '60s I had read Shirer's two books 'Rise and Fall of the Third Reich' and 'The Rise and Fall of Adolf Hitler' as well as Chirchill and Eisenhower. Just think how grammar school kids love dinosaurs today, that's how I was about WWII until I discovered GIRLS (but that's another story) I am trying to think when I discovered the Soviet disinformation plots. That would have been in the 1970 as I was preparing for college. I remember the female corpse story and followed the post-Soviet documents releases that confirmed what was IMHO solid speculative forensics without the final "bridgework" story.
It's fun to look back at how my understanding of these events differed and changed over those years.
Dr Mark Felton did a fascinating multi video lesson on this subject.
Came here to say this if no-one else had. Fascinating.
For anyone interested basically the idea is that the corpse of Hitler is a fake but he was probably buried somewhere else in the compound so that the Soviets would never find his real body
Mark Felton is also very helpful in examining all evidence and arguments objectively before giving his opinion. There was enough oddities about the claimed bodies to make someone question if they are the true bodies of the Hitlers. However, whether or not they are dead is less unclear.
@@JimbotheoneI was going to say what you two gentlemen said. Mark Felton did a great job looking at the different problems of what happened to Hitler. The question of Hitler's fate isn't as cut and dry and "don't you dare question it as this video portrays." There are a few holes in the story. (Personally I believe Hitler did die in the bunker and the dental records are the proof. But at least one body double probably made it to Argentina)
Mark Felton is a plagiarist pos who literally got hired by David Cameron once to "make Britain's history look better" he's a consumate hack and I wouldn't trust a word he says
Amongst near countless examples I think my favourite was his once-implying that the only reason Vietnam 'fell' to communism is because the British Army wasn't there to stop it.
It would be hilarious if he wasn't so extensively watched. Alas...
I read an article once about Joseph Mengele's fairly-boring death by drowning in 1979 in South America. The Mossad had been hunting him for decades but the trail had run cold, and they refused to accept that anyone that evil could have died so uneventfully. The article wrapped up saying it is human nature that those who would wish someone's death so passionately would refuse to believe just as passionately that it was true.
These rumors also gave rise to the truly dreadful horror movie, They Saved Hitler's Brain.
Shout out to Eva... she stood by her man until... 'der ende'.
30 yrs before Tammy Wynette.
*das Ende
Minor correction for the end: We're in the third decade of this century (00s, 10s, 20s)
Hello TGA and company. This is a follow up to a post I submitted yesterday regarding a video I recommended from Author/Historian and TH-camr Mark Felton. After doing some research myself I can easily understand why I received the rebuke that I did from the members of this channel and Spartacus himself. Apparently, Dr. Felton really is a known plagiarist and sometimes fails miserably in one of the most critical elements of any respectable research: a bibliography. When I was working on both my BA and MA any work that I presented either for a grade or a professional paper presentation would NOT have even been accepted and graded without said bibliography. I made the rather naive assumption that because Felton has a PhD by his name that his work was credible; an assumption that after 48 years of reading, studying and most of all loving history is something I should be embarrassed by, and truthfully, I am. My apologies. As the saying goes you are certainly NEVER too old to learn. Thanks, TGA for the professional/critical feedback it was well deserved. Randy Forman, a proud, and now somewhat humbled Texan.
This is possibly the most gracious response to an exchange we’ve received on the channel. Heartfelt thanks both for the gesture itself, and the thorough reasoning. ❤
@@spartacus-olsson A thousand thank-yous Mr. Olsson, I take that as a great compliment. Some people might consider it anachronistic and archaic, but when I was reared up in Texas I was raised to live by a code. One of the things my father taught me was that it takes a real man to admit when he is wrong. I see being wrong as an opportunity for growth and learning. After some further research regarding the claims of plagiarism concerning Dr. Felton, I actually unsubscribed from his channel this morning. Besides, between your channel, Sabaton, The Chieftan and The Imperial War Museum channel I have practically a lifetime of content to study and absorb anyway. For those of y'all not familiar with Texas or Texan culture we have a well-deserved reputation for being arrogant, loud-mouth braggarts. In reference to my last posting about being a "somewhat humbled Texan", I have a question for you. What is rarer than a humble Texan? A blizzard in downtown Dallas in mid-August! Have a fabulous day sir!
@@RandyForman-k9r and the very same to you!
If he was still alive he would be about 135 years old and he was not looking good at 56.
Historians have always been puzzled by the note they found in der Fuhrerbunker:
"I am not yet dead.
I can sing and I can dance.
I am not yet dead.
I've been played by Bruno Ganz.
I am not yet dead.
No need to call the Reds.
I'm going out for strudel
'Cause I'm not yet dead."
and Baumgartner testifying he flew him out of Berlin.
@@freppie_ not to mention the countless eye witness reports of him in South America. Some as recent as 2 years ago......
@@hnnsy 2 years ago seems a little of a stretch, but there we're indeed a lil too many accounts of him being seen.
@@hnnsylol those arent exactly reliable considering he’d be a 133 year old meth addict
are the people in this reply section not reading this at all and thinking it's serious?
I wonder what would Hitler say on all those conspiracy theories about his death. I know that I would be in disbelief and cringe while finding out about it, haha.
Btw, Hitler artwork on thumbnail reminds me of Pazuzu from The Exorcist
Sparty pronounces The Furher's name right. Its not pronounced as "Hitler" it is "Hitla". Fyi.
Very Well Done!!!
What an interesting case. I remember in the 1970s, there was still strong debate on what happened to Adolf Hitler. It's up there with D.B. Cooper, and other VIP disappearance cases. Always figured, this was one of those files, that would still be classified, long after the standard 25 years of the window of declassification, would pass. I would have expected Hitler to get out of Germany way before the end of the war. Time Ghost Army...you almost had me reach for my tin foil hat here. hehe.
There is a little among us on the stone that weighs down the pages of the book in the lower left.
It’s somewhat relevant… it’s a beach stone, and has pieces of shrapnel embedded in it. It witnessed the coming of a great armada, and the first men to storm the shores of occupied Europe and pass through the gates of hell, on the way to heaven, through the Nazi lines.
The best conspiracy theory I heard about Hitler surviving was that he escaped and lived as a hermit in a cave in Italy with hundreds of tinned beans to keep him fed 🤣
🙏🏆🎖️🤗
Thank you for sharing this
And thanks for watching.
There's a bloke who works down my chip shop swears he's Hitler
But he's a liar, and I'm not sure about you.
@@TheUltrahypnotoad This sums up the social media landscape of 2024 quite well
Ol’ Chipler. Great bloke.
The authorities should charge him with war crimes.
Put him on trial and see how long he sticks to his story.
Is the French officer at about 13.40 Lattre de Tassigny?
This is one of those myths that definitely needs to die
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May the algorithm bless you all
Hitler would be around 130 years old, if he we're alive today.
i.e: please knock it off that he's alive somehow. Sheesh...
The fog of war was running rampant during ww2. This is one sampling of many.
We're actually into the 3rd decade of the 21st century!
The thumbnail looks like something you'd see on a poorly made creepypasta story from 2011
He said what he was going to do before hand and even blamed the Germans
But what does the Chair of Infinite Knowledge think? *watches as it creeps into the frame.*
Well, there goes the idea put forward by Monty Python's Flying Circus that he would go on to run for parliament in the North Minehead By-Election (the voters didn't like the sound of "boncentration bamps").
My sister-in-law is convinced that mustache man survived the war and fled to the Argentina. Could someone convince her otherwise?Let's say that it's more likely that my late mother would rise up from her grave than to my sister-in-law change her mind on her beliefs,regardless how absurd they could be...
Not true! I bought his skull on Ebay, complete with the little moustache and stuff!
(Thank you.)
Thanks for the comment!
If hitler died in the bunker: 99 percent
If the remains we still have from the corpse are real: id say a solid 85 percent
After watching Mark Felton on this subject, all my thinking about Hitler's corpse has changed.
I was also very skeptical of Mark Felton’s videos about the deaths of Hitler and Martin Borman.
Besides, a WAH on the death of Martin Borman could also be very interesting.
So I don’t know how to position myself on Mark Felton’s videos.
On the one hand, I have the impression that he does in-depth research on certain subjects and on the other, I have the impression that he seeks sensationalism more than anything else on other subjects.
@@matthisbonnet5951 Mark Felton has done so many videos on basically the same subject he is running out of content on WW2 that a major audience would watch. This is why he is using clickbait-like titels. If he would spend atleast a bit of time to edit his videos not with standard windows movie maker from 2011 his audience could easily watch other videos than the 7th "what happened to hitlers gun?" or 4th "hitlers secret vehicles".
Felton is a not a historian, he makes convincing sounding videos from fringe theories. Fine if you take it with a grain of salt just like the History Channel but look a bit further if you value proper historical consensus.
@@GBOAC Uh yes Dr Mark Felton is a Historian
@@PiddelIMHO, there are still a lot of WWII topics Felton could cover. The activities of the US 10th Mountain Division is one, as is the Brazilian Expeditionary Force. But to do a quality feature on the latter would likely require fluency in Portuguese, & I don't know how willing Felton is to take on that challenge.
Sparty says "Reich" properly as well.
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ew, I loathe the German language, it's so ugly
Mr Spartacus impressive pointy mustache if i may say
cultural
Quite a dapper chap he is! Thanks for the comment.
Excellent video. Good work Sparty & team.
Thanks for the comment, and thanks for watching!
A comment to show my support for the channel, and the algorithm
Thank you Salty.
I what to know about the one that can not be named art work?
I think he went from his hidingplace in southamerica to the future.That means
he will reappear in seventeen years(if he went houndred years into the future).
The evidence is in the research regarding"DieGlocke"that was a timemachine developed
in the southamerica before ww2.A testflight was done in the 60's,but the german
in it managed to send it back before he was apprehended by the americans near Los Angeles or San Diego(where hitler lived his last years).
Did H have a double with similar dental work? If my “punishment” for telling the truth is the same for lying then why tell the truth? Only thing we know is a dental bridge was found. There is an opinion that it is a match for H due to an x-ray reviewed against a description of the dental work. How many cancers/fractures/foreign bodies are missed today with x-rays? IMHO
Well… opinions aside, that’s not possible. Dental forensics is an established science, and it’s virtually impossible to create a double that includes actual teeth, much the same way you can’t fake fingerprints, or irises. It’s too complex… sure, you can build a model in resin or something, but not the actual teeth and the jawbone, or for that matter not any biological piece of anatomy that fits the original 100%.
In the case of Hitler’s jawbone, four of the teeth are his own, and the other are prosthetics on the bridge. Because the jaw and exact placement of teeth are unique to each one of us, it’s also impossible to fake the dental work, so you get a triple whammy. A. The jaw matches. B. The teeth match, and C. The bridge matches. Since we have five X-ray plates of his skull from different angles, the match is incontestable.
Now, while we might be careful to say that it’s definitely impossible to fake all of this in 2024, we can say for certain that it was definitely impossible in 1945. As in absolutely impossible beyond even the slightest doubt.
Occam is your friend, please listen to him. There is no evidence that he had or used one and the notion that a microphone hogging narcissist would allow ANYONE to look like him or take his place in anything is just silly.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Nazi hunters were relentless after the war were they not? There's no chance he would've gone undetected anywhere in the world, even if him escaping was plausible in any way.
This, but also living it out somewhere in hole after being used to that every word you utter is the word of God would be impossible for him.
But only because he was literally Hitler. Once you step down one or two tiers from that, the "Nazi hunters" were very much not _that_ relentless.
Hoi 4 players know he escaped to Argentina 😂
By now definitely I would say😄
Wow Chuikov must have felt like king of the world,when a Nazi general goes to him with a white flag,like Stalingrad over 2 years ago.How far weve come he must have thought.
Some people believe he's still alive... the man was born in 1889. I can't fathom how these people can be considered functioning adults.
Even if he survived, today he is dead anyway.