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Very interesting, in todays France the government and the right have come up with the term "Islamo-gauchiste" islam-leftism, it's the new judeo-bolchevism, we are in dark, dark times
Late in the war when it was clear to most that Germany was not going to win & the skies above German cities had become thick with Allied bombers, this speech gave rise to a whisper joke that was often repeated in the Ruhr.. "Dear Tommy, fly further . We're all mine-workers here. Fly further to Berlin . There they've all screamed yes!"
'We must get the USAAF to wade in with greater force ... We can wreck Berlin from end to end if the USAAF will come in on it. It will cost between us 400-500 aircraft. It will cost Germany the war.' - Sir Arthur Harris, in a letter to Churchill, 3 November 1943 BBC Fact File : Big Week 20 to 25 February 1944 on line
@@nickdanger3802 It's impressive how the western Allies had already prouced a massive war effort and lethal damage to the Axis even before landing on the ground.
@@dusk6159 not really. WWII is the war that shows us the limits of strategic bombing. Its imprecise and its morale effect minimal. The resources spent on thousand bomber raids was largely worthless because it outstripped the actual infrastructural damage dealt. Had the allies focused their air force on close air support and raiding supply lines be attacking trains and supply depots, it would have been far more effective. The last war where large scale strategic bombing was attempted is Vietnam, and it failed there too. Nowadays its accepted that outside of using smart munitions to efficiently eliminate high priority targets, air forces should only provide close air support for ground forces.
@@volodymyrboitchouk There is no ground support to be doing on a non existent invading army a continent away. Strategic bombing and similar means as a whole literally crippled and immobilized Germany + took out millions of soldiers and resources from the front, usually by the mere effect of having to stand guard from the US and UK/Commonwealth operations.
@@dusk6159 the evidence is against you there, friens. Even during the war it was admitted that the strategic bombing campaign was having minimal effect on Germany. I'm prety sure it was even discussed on this channel in the past. Top airforce officials in the US admitted that, far from weakening the German resolve and.puling forces away from other fronts, air raids were stiffening German resolve or had no effects at all. Another interesting thing to note is that the USSR never engaged in serious strategic moving, even when it had the chance. If strategic bombing was so effective, then why didnt the Soviets use it? The US had vast resources to throw around and strategic bombing was implemented to give the airforce something to do.
I'm commenting in aid of the channel... but truly, despite deeply being familiar with the history, your presentation has left me struggling to find appropriate words. Well done.
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@@theblackbear211 Europe, especially its population, had It rough for two separate centuries with the birth of the concept and practice of total war by Napoleon and then, especially, later with the nazis. But just think about the lessons, evolution and peace that got put in practice after it, though simultaneously one still feels sorry for the state of the third world, for example.
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@@WorldWarTwo there should be a special where Spartacus reads wartime jokes, and he smiles and laughs... I simply can't imagine him not being a grim narrator of terrible things.
When hearing Goebbels talking about a Scottish by-election, I wonder if anyone in the audience thought, "Good God! They are still having elections over there?"
Also when he said there was a single communist in Parliament I was pretty impressed. The election system is so broken here in the UK that a communist getting elected today is inconceivable
@@Darwinek well no its clearly not whatever your political ideology is. There's certainly enough communists in the UK to deserve at least a seat in Parliament. Its next to impossible for minor parties to get representation in Parliament, it's a broken and outdated system
@@tomwh1993 After the 1945 Labour landslide, the CPGB had for a short time, three MP's, mainly in the East End of London. They didn't last for a number of reasons, the massive social reforms enacted by the Attlee government including most famously the NHS, which rather took away much of the appeal of Communists. Attlee himself had no time for Communists, as his Foreign Secretary Ernie Bevin told their conference (he was the major player in the diplomatic effort to persuade the US to do something very foreign to them going back to independence, being part of an alliance for security that was binding, which became NATO), 'there has never been a dictator who talked of peace but prepared for war, you just remember that'. In other words, Stalin is little better than the recently defeated Nazis (after all, Hitler and Stalin agreed in 1939 to both invade Poland and as time went on his mass murdering became clearer). Bevin was just reminding any fellow travellers on the left of the party that 'Uncle Joe' wasn't so cuddly, or as Stalin called those in the West who had ignored or just pretended not to see things like the deliberate famines and the gulags, 'useful idiots'. The CPGB membership in the UK peaked not long after the Nazi invasion of the USSR and the supplies the UK and later US gave Russia, previously the CPGB had opposed the fight against Hitler, calling it a 'capitalist war'. MI5 bugging of the CPGB's modest London HQ revealed post war, a declining party almost wholly reliant on small donations from the USSR, it also revealed the USSR were not getting anything much from them. The real split in the CPGB came in the 1956 brutal suppression of Hungary by the Soviets, some trying to somehow justify it, the rest just leaving the party.
Not in *that* crowd 😏 Incidentally, the Scottish idea of "The Common Weal' " far precedes Communism, and is something I am proud of. You need to look after your fellow man when the winters are harsh. 💛
I only recently saw the last part of the banner with “shorter war” Even in Berlin they needed that to get the crowd going, but it could not be seen on the radio.
Victory and War (Sieg / Krieg) sound to a point pretty similar in German language. So it always sounds a bit like "do you want total victory" when Goebbels asks to you want total war.
German joke: A child finds a picture of his grandfather standing in a crowd as a young man with his hand raised. He asks his grandfather what he was doing there. He answers: Yes, it was at a big conference, where someone asked, "Do you want total war?" So I stood up, raised my hand and said, " Stop, wait a moment!"
7:08 The real irony of the bolshevik "boogeyman" is that in WWI Germany was essential to it's creation. They originally provided Lenin with sanctuary and a soapbox - NOW they worry about Bolshevism, they didn't seem to mind it at all in 1917.
Probably would add however that this was probably not widely known at the time. Downplayed for sure by the Nazis who had been in power for about 10 years.
@@jacksonreilly3441 The German Communist Party (KPD) was the third-largest party in Germany and particularly strong in the capital Berlin. It was actually the most popular party among Germany's unemployed, with the Nazis in second place among that constituency. Hitler did not just promise to destroy "Bolshevism". He said he would sweep the "hundred parties" of German politics away. Basically a one-party state, but millions of Germans rejected parliamentary democracy. The Weimar Republic was also denounced by the Nazis as the "Judenrepublik", the "Jew Republic". And the Nazis were scarcely keener on the "Marxist" SPD, despite the latter's bitter relationship with the KPD.
Reads quite familiar when you look at the US funding and elevation of the Taliban to fight the Soviet Union only to have to be defeated themselves by said Taliban.
I also like that you are actually dissecting the content. In terms of rhetoric, particularly if you understand German, its unparalled and is widely referenced in German media (negatively of course).The content of the speech also I think makes it harder for Holocaust deniers, given the virulent anti-semitism in it and references to the "Jewish measures" "judenmassnahmen". I mean, at this most dramatic moment, everything is in danger, he chooses THIS moment, to go on a radical tirade against the Jews and defend the "Jewish measures". It is very relevant and overlooked.
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This is what I was looking for! Thank you for covering this speech Sparty! A very important speech at the time to gauge the feeling of the German people on the home front and how things were about to change.
If i remember correctly there is a moment in the speech where Goebbels almost lets the word ''extermination'' slip out of his mouth when talking about the Jews. Then he corrects himself just in time by saying something like ''relocation'' or ''deportation'' i think, all of this in german of course. It's a particularly chilling passage.
I read that, the source is an American historian who claims he got it from the recorded version. I personally have never recognized which part he was talking about. So not sure how true it is. Plenty of other content in the speech however refers to "Jewish measures" so there's that.
Goebbels' secretary claimed she knew nothing of the extermination because people were told that the Jews were simply being sent to repopulate the Sudetenland with German speakers.
This channel/site is a very good, no, great source of true information. i have read books that were of a historical nature and mostly focused on military history since I was about 9 or 10. I'm a geezer now at 66, and I have read probably a shit ton of books, the majority about WW2 and what led up to it. This site, I should say the great people who make this happen, consistantly put out the very best videos on every subject they cover. Their videos should be in the historical curriculum of every history class in schools. I remember when I was in school that when history was taught, it usually petered out about the time of the US Civil War. After I finish WW2 on this site, I'm going straight to their coverage of the Great War. Huzzah, you guys!
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I love the way you show the rhetoric trap that was laid open to the people, who fell in it without realizing that it was a self-fulfilling prophecy! It is such an accurate and at the same time terrifying description of what this whole war and nazism is generally. Thanks so much again for your hard works !
I must say, I've been watching this channel since the beginning and your speaking and overall screen presence have improved remarkably. (It was good to begin with, but it's quite excellent now.) Well done Spartacus, and thank you for doing what you do.
Dear Mr. Olsson, thank you so much for the captivating manner of giving us this detailed and enlightening account, it was a pleasure to watch and listen to.
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the amazing focus on the details what was true and what were lies makes for such a good source of information and really shoots down any argument an extremist might come with. Such an amazing channel this is thank you
Never forget. These words get me every time. If my eyes aren't full of tears already by what came before in the typical WAH or special video, they will be now.
Excellent doc, as always, but a correction: The Spanish Republic was far from be a communist regime. The communist party was very secondary. Even the Stalin's target during our civil war was just to get an alliance with France. Not a communist regime! When Stalin failed (Munich Conference)he left the Spanish Republic.
One of the more fascinating episodes. I find these terrifying glimpses into the inner workings of this insane but so very real ideology and socio-political system most interesting, much more so than strictly military history.
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I always love these videos. They are a incredible way to remember the dark past that we all struggle and want to forget - specially during these times a podcaster here said that "should be a NSDAP party legalized" because of "free speech". As a historian once said (i don't remember which one rn, but i think it was Marc Bloch) "the objective of the historian is to reminds the society what she want to forget". Continue the good work, boys.
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@@GaudiaCertaminisGaming THX, I did a little read on the subject. Sparty's delivery trigger my thought. Also the word Havoc had a more drastic and literal meaning in the time that Shakespeare wrote.
Spartacus, thank you for grinding down on this and teasing it apart. By contrast, everything else I have read on this speech has been, by comparison, an overview.
I'm always impressed with the amount of detail you guys put into your videos. I consider myself a WW2 buff, but I didn't know about this speech or what was in it. I knew that these became the Nazi party's stance in the war, didn't know when it was broadcasted to the people. Fascinating stuff. I've found it hard to find these speeches translated into English, maybe because it will inspire Neo Nazi's or something? I just want to know what they were saying exactly to get these people so fired up they thought they could control the world.
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I am positively exhilarated by the stunningly accurate pronounciation of foreign words, never mind the historical accuracy and precise, clear and charismatic narration. Fantastic job.
One of my favourite parts of watching these is when really stupid decisions are made by the axis , or when they say contradictory statements based on false information, he just sits there quietly, for 2 seconds, shuts his eyes(as if to shake off the stupidity), exhales, and says "But,"
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Goebbels was picking up on a shift to the left in British elections which would see Churchill SPOILER defeated in 1945. The by-elections tended to tell that story, with fringe candidates picking up surprisingly large votes and occasionally winning. There was a wartime truce, so by-elections were normally not contested by mainstream parties - for example, a previously Conservative-held seat would not be contested by Labour or the Liberals, in an attempt to give the new Conservative candidate a free run. But instead independents and eccentrics would throw their hat in the ring.
@@aleksazunjic9672 This is the same nonsense that this entire video is talking about. Did you learn nothing? Vague slogans about undefined, sinister enemies, "cultural marxists" being no different to "Judeo-Bolshevists" or the like. Whipping up fears of conspiracies that don't actually exist, in order to convince stupid people to be afraid of anything vaguely left or liberal in character.
@@aleksazunjic9672 The video at the top of this page literally addresses that exact claim. It's confirmation bias, nothing more. The majority of the Bolshevik party were orthodox Christians and atheists. Jews were present, e.g. Trotsky and Martov, but as a minority. You're on a video about the dangers of fascist propaganda and you're repeating fascist propaganda. Think about that.
@@Ahrlin9 I just took the effort to look into who composed the politbureau in 1917. Would you have the courtesy to define what is a majority? Just so that we are talking about the same subject.
Such a well written and rigorous video. Would love to see more analysis of speeches and public sentiment on this channel. To understand the war, you need to understand the state of mind of each government
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Want to add a small correction. During a war with Frederick the Great Peter wasn't a tzar. If I remember correctly he was a fan of Frederick and when he BECAME a tzar he immediately sued for peace and offered to become Frederick's ally. So Peter didn't fight Prussia at all.
Yes, Peter was a "germanophile" and could barely speak russian, as he was Prussian born. When Empress Elizabeth died and he became the Tzar he immediately withdrew Russia from the war.
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Along with many of your other excellent presentations, this rings of modern familiarity. 8:30 is like listening to my neighbor -- without all the cursing. Rural living, I guess...
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How about an episode about the early use of Television in WW2, the Germans were in many ways ahead of their time with outside broadcasting, lifestyle and variety programmes..
They had a lot of modernist tv shows. For instance... Heinz's Helden Gunther's Island Let's Make a Deal That You Can't Refuse My Price is Right I Love Lilly Das Bormann Bundel Wheel of Misfortune Schaden-Fruende Das ist Altvays Funniezisch im der silly Delphie
“When logs need to be added to the fire, how many people would demolish their house for fuel? That’s what it means to be trapped in total war… and stare into the darkness beyond.” -unknown
The Casablanca declaration was possibly the worst move the Allies could have made at the time. Between this and the Morgenthau plan it gave propagandists in Germany all the fuel they ever needed to drag it out to the bloody end.
"Total war means total destruction". Not only Goebbels fault. WW1 in retrospect was a failure as an armistice was signed when Germany suffered minor war damage. It allowed later Hitler to claim that the German army was stabbed in the back. So this resulted in the Casablanca conference in 1943 to decide that only unconditional surrender would stop the war. Another reason for the Germans to fight to the end: the Nazi regime was involved in so many atrocities that any negotiations were impossible.
"I ask you, do you want pancakes ? If necessary, do you want a pancake more total and radical than anything we can imagine today ?" Joseph goebbels' order at Denny's
A few errors about Fredrick the Great. It was the Death of Empress Elizabeth of Russia that saved Fredrick. Peter was an ally of Fredrick so when he took over he stopped the war. Elizabeth had captured Berlin.
@@Namooro NO! Catherine the Great was after Peter, her husband. In fact she over-though him. Empress Elizabeth who fought Fredrick was was Peter's Aunt. see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_of_Russia especially the section on the Seven Years war and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_the_House_of_Brandenburg
And Germans routinely praised Frederick For his genius but He had lost the the war until the Death of the Tsar. He won tactical victories but no change the strategic picture
I am often asking myself, how could such an hysterical form of speech be so successful? Even to this day, everytime a see a hysterical Speech full of iron and sulfur, I can only think of single Moment in the Sportpalast 1943. Proufs to me that people never learn from History!
This speech (which can be heard online) has a major slip where Goebbels starts to say the Ausrottung (eradiacation) of the Jews, and then catches himself and converts it to the softer Ausschaltung. I am not, however, sure that this slip penetrated much at the time. Victor Klemperer, for example, was aware of the Total War speech and wrote some about it, but he never mentions "eradication." By this point he was pretty aware of what was going on, and if any of his friends had noticed this, it would have circulated in the Jewish gossip network in Dresden.
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Nice episode the qaulity of your episodes is getting better every time continue so all the world should know history as it happend so we dont make the mistakes of the past and take the lessons from it to our present
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A true Master Class on fake news, spin and propaganda and I was constantly reflecting on recent political announcements from the last couple of decades to current.
If you think about it, the war on the eastern front lasted less than 4 years. Considering the mind-boggling distances involved, I'd day 4 years is not that much at all.
@@michaelkovacic2608 the casualties are even more insane. Look at stalingrad on the map. 2 million people died in an area that small? Doesn't look like it could even hold that many bodies. But it did happen, and it's insane.
I'm very happy that my great-grandfather, Karl Franz Hildebrandt, decided that after WW1, he had enough and moved to Switzerland! And funny note: Recently we did DNA tests in the family and came to the conclusion that from our german side, they were not even technically german to start with but originally from Scandinavia and Ireland/Scotland! :D
Do you guys think Erich Ludendorff's post-WWI writings, particularly "Der Totale Krieg", influenced the Hitler and Goebbels' decision in 1943 to pursue a total war instead of seeking a political solution?
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These video series is a masterclass of visual arts and storytelling. I grew up in Israel, and this is more accurate than most of our Holocaust studies during high school. Thank you Spartacus!!
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Interesting note about Horcher. It is said Goering told the owner to flee Germany somewhere before 1945. Now Madrid hosts the Horcher, which is one of the best restaurants in the city, and the only one that still requires men to wear a jacket in order to go in.
No, this whole speech - apart from the new rules about a few slackers and women - was just a mood lifter rather than actual policy shift. They didn't divert resources from the efforts against undesirables. Those resources could have gone towards fighting the Russians.
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A perfect example is the US. The truth is a lie and the lie is the truth.
Very interesting, in todays France the government and the right have come up with the term "Islamo-gauchiste" islam-leftism, it's the new judeo-bolchevism, we are in dark, dark times
@@samdumaquis2033 way to compare things that are totally different
I just went back and looked at sparty in ep 1 of wah. it's really taking a toll on sparty's beard. I hope he's alright
@@rodgerjohnson3375 And which 51% of the population has bought into this cavalcade of deception, and which 49% are clear-eyed and rational?
Late in the war when it was clear to most that Germany was not going to win & the skies above German cities had become thick with Allied bombers, this speech gave rise to a whisper joke that was often repeated in the Ruhr..
"Dear Tommy, fly further
. We're all mine-workers here.
Fly further to Berlin
. There they've all screamed yes!"
'We must get the USAAF to wade in with greater force ... We can wreck Berlin from end to end if the USAAF will come in on it. It will cost between us 400-500 aircraft. It will cost Germany the war.' - Sir Arthur Harris, in a letter to Churchill, 3 November 1943
BBC Fact File : Big Week 20 to 25 February 1944 on line
@@nickdanger3802 It's impressive how the western Allies had already prouced a massive war effort and lethal damage to the Axis even before landing on the ground.
@@dusk6159 not really. WWII is the war that shows us the limits of strategic bombing. Its imprecise and its morale effect minimal. The resources spent on thousand bomber raids was largely worthless because it outstripped the actual infrastructural damage dealt. Had the allies focused their air force on close air support and raiding supply lines be attacking trains and supply depots, it would have been far more effective. The last war where large scale strategic bombing was attempted is Vietnam, and it failed there too. Nowadays its accepted that outside of using smart munitions to efficiently eliminate high priority targets, air forces should only provide close air support for ground forces.
@@volodymyrboitchouk There is no ground support to be doing on a non existent invading army a continent away.
Strategic bombing and similar means as a whole literally crippled and immobilized Germany + took out millions of soldiers and resources from the front, usually by the mere effect of having to stand guard from the US and UK/Commonwealth operations.
@@dusk6159 the evidence is against you there, friens. Even during the war it was admitted that the strategic bombing campaign was having minimal effect on Germany. I'm prety sure it was even discussed on this channel in the past. Top airforce officials in the US admitted that, far from weakening the German resolve and.puling forces away from other fronts, air raids were stiffening German resolve or had no effects at all.
Another interesting thing to note is that the USSR never engaged in serious strategic moving, even when it had the chance. If strategic bombing was so effective, then why didnt the Soviets use it? The US had vast resources to throw around and strategic bombing was implemented to give the airforce something to do.
I'm commenting in aid of the channel... but truly, despite deeply being familiar with the history, your presentation has left me struggling to find appropriate words. Well done.
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@@WorldWarTwo thanks for your response. I believe that your work is both important and extremely well done.
@@theblackbear211 Europe, especially its population, had It rough for two separate centuries with the birth of the concept and practice of total war by Napoleon and then, especially, later with the nazis.
But just think about the lessons, evolution and peace that got put in practice after it, though simultaneously one still feels sorry for the state of the third world, for example.
Regular occurrence here.... One of the great history channels on all of TH-cam.
@@SeveredLegs Agreed.
the italian war industry will outproduce the allies easily
Messes counter attack will put things in order :p
Luxembourg will also outproduce the axis
Ahhh… The heady days of denial and eternal optimism, so sweet, so short…
Sure thing
Hope they make a video on that. We've seen German and Japanese but not them
This was an excellent special focusing on fine details I never knew. Thanx TG Team!
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One of the best Chapters of this Series in my opinion, once again thanks for all.
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@@WorldWarTwo there should be a special where Spartacus reads wartime jokes, and he smiles and laughs... I simply can't imagine him not being a grim narrator of terrible things.
When hearing Goebbels talking about a Scottish by-election, I wonder if anyone in the audience thought, "Good God! They are still having elections over there?"
Also when he said there was a single communist in Parliament I was pretty impressed. The election system is so broken here in the UK that a communist getting elected today is inconceivable
@@tomwh1993 Well, that's a good thing.
@@Darwinek well no its clearly not whatever your political ideology is. There's certainly enough communists in the UK to deserve at least a seat in Parliament. Its next to impossible for minor parties to get representation in Parliament, it's a broken and outdated system
@@tomwh1993 After the 1945 Labour landslide, the CPGB had for a short time, three MP's, mainly in the East End of London.
They didn't last for a number of reasons, the massive social reforms enacted by the Attlee government including most famously the NHS, which rather took away much of the appeal of Communists.
Attlee himself had no time for Communists, as his Foreign Secretary Ernie Bevin told their conference (he was the major player in the diplomatic effort to persuade the US to do something very foreign to them going back to independence, being part of an alliance for security that was binding, which became NATO), 'there has never been a dictator who talked of peace but prepared for war, you just remember that'. In other words, Stalin is little better than the recently defeated Nazis (after all, Hitler and Stalin agreed in 1939 to both invade Poland and as time went on his mass murdering became clearer).
Bevin was just reminding any fellow travellers on the left of the party that 'Uncle Joe' wasn't so cuddly, or as Stalin called those in the West who had ignored or just pretended not to see things like the deliberate famines and the gulags, 'useful idiots'.
The CPGB membership in the UK peaked not long after the Nazi invasion of the USSR and the supplies the UK and later US gave Russia, previously the CPGB had opposed the fight against Hitler, calling it a 'capitalist war'.
MI5 bugging of the CPGB's modest London HQ revealed post war, a declining party almost wholly reliant on small donations from the USSR, it also revealed the USSR were not getting anything much from them.
The real split in the CPGB came in the 1956 brutal suppression of Hungary by the Soviets, some trying to somehow justify it, the rest just leaving the party.
Not in *that* crowd 😏
Incidentally, the Scottish idea of "The Common Weal' " far precedes Communism, and is something I am proud of. You need to look after your fellow man when the winters are harsh. 💛
"WOLLT IHR DEN TOTALER KRIEG!?"
"DO YOU WANT TOTAL WAR!?"
Those words still give me the goosebumps and chills.
Yep. But of course not in a good way.
Be careful what you wish for.
I only recently saw the last part of the banner with “shorter war”
Even in Berlin they needed that to get the crowd going, but it could not be seen on the radio.
It's a sentence that is iconic, but particularly iconic because in no context would anyone ever ask such a thing in a public address to the nation.
“Total War”
Sherman have appear
A lot of Shermans have appear
In an alternate universe:
“Do you want a total war?!”
“No!”
“I understand, have a nice day”
Reality: Oh i can't hear you! Nevermind! Here have one Total War schnapps!
Imagine if they gave a war, and nobody came...
@@BlackFlag1719 or the politicians had to go hand to hand, live on TV.
Victory and War (Sieg / Krieg) sound to a point pretty similar in German language. So it always sounds a bit like "do you want total victory" when Goebbels asks to you want total war.
NSDAP : Emotional damage
German joke: A child finds a picture of his grandfather standing in a crowd as a young man with his hand raised. He asks his grandfather what he was doing there. He answers: Yes, it was at a big conference, where someone asked, "Do you want total war?" So I stood up, raised my hand and said, " Stop, wait a moment!"
Gotta love that sarcastic deadpan German humor. XD
7:08 The real irony of the bolshevik "boogeyman" is that in WWI Germany was essential to it's creation. They originally provided Lenin with sanctuary and a soapbox - NOW they worry about Bolshevism, they didn't seem to mind it at all in 1917.
good point.
Probably would add however that this was probably not widely known at the time. Downplayed for sure by the Nazis who had been in power for about 10 years.
@@jacksonreilly3441 The German Communist Party (KPD) was the third-largest party in Germany and particularly strong in the capital Berlin. It was actually the most popular party among Germany's unemployed, with the Nazis in second place among that constituency. Hitler did not just promise to destroy "Bolshevism". He said he would sweep the "hundred parties" of German politics away. Basically a one-party state, but millions of Germans rejected parliamentary democracy. The Weimar Republic was also denounced by the Nazis as the "Judenrepublik", the "Jew Republic". And the Nazis were scarcely keener on the "Marxist" SPD, despite the latter's bitter relationship with the KPD.
Yep. The sealed train from Switzerland.
Reads quite familiar when you look at the US funding and elevation of the Taliban to fight the Soviet Union only to have to be defeated themselves by said Taliban.
I also like that you are actually dissecting the content. In terms of rhetoric, particularly if you understand German, its unparalled and is widely referenced in German media (negatively of course).The content of the speech also I think makes it harder for Holocaust deniers, given the virulent anti-semitism in it and references to the "Jewish measures" "judenmassnahmen".
I mean, at this most dramatic moment, everything is in danger, he chooses THIS moment, to go on a radical tirade against the Jews and defend the "Jewish measures". It is very relevant and overlooked.
@gurufabbes1 Thanks for exploring the war with us. It's only through examining the past and such effective propaganda, that we can hope to avoid repeating such awful times.
An excellent episode on the German transition to Total War. Thank you TimeGhost team!
This is what I was looking for! Thank you for covering this speech Sparty! A very important speech at the time to gauge the feeling of the German people on the home front and how things were about to change.
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If i remember correctly there is a moment in the speech where Goebbels almost lets the word ''extermination'' slip out of his mouth when talking about the Jews. Then he corrects himself just in time by saying something like ''relocation'' or ''deportation'' i think, all of this in german of course. It's a particularly chilling passage.
I read that, the source is an American historian who claims he got it from the recorded version. I personally have never recognized which part he was talking about.
So not sure how true it is. Plenty of other content in the speech however refers to "Jewish measures" so there's that.
Goebbels' secretary claimed she knew nothing of the extermination because people were told that the Jews were simply being sent to repopulate the Sudetenland with German speakers.
@@gurufabbes1I am German and I have heard his exact words. It’s true.
@@vaolin1703 I speak German as well but I can't really pinpoint the moment. I've tried.
@@gurufabbes1 Okay. One video is called “Goebbels - Do you want Total War? | TOTALEN KRIEG” and the moment is at 0:30
19:02 I have never seen this photo, colorized or otherwise. It is bone-chilling and stark for the setting and subject. Wow.
This channel/site is a very good, no, great source of true information. i have read books that were of a historical nature and mostly focused on military history since I was about 9 or 10. I'm a geezer now at 66, and I have read probably a shit ton of books, the majority about WW2 and what led up to it. This site, I should say the great people who make this happen, consistantly put out the very best videos on every subject they cover. Their videos should be in the historical curriculum of every history class in schools. I remember when I was in school that when history was taught, it usually petered out about the time of the US Civil War. After I finish WW2 on this site, I'm going straight to their coverage of the Great War. Huzzah, you guys!
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The clock behind him stuck at two minutes to Midnight was a nice touch.
Iron Maiden would be proud.
@@joemiller9931 you're the only one who got it 😁
The archival video footage of Goebbels' speech really made this video. I love the narration combined with the coverage. It makes it more alive.
I love the way you show the rhetoric trap that was laid open to the people, who fell in it without realizing that it was a self-fulfilling prophecy! It is such an accurate and at the same time terrifying description of what this whole war and nazism is generally. Thanks so much again for your hard works !
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Fantastic narration as always Spartacus!
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Really digging this tie Spartacus! Nice touch with the pocket square as well. 4/5
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I must say, I've been watching this channel since the beginning and your speaking and overall screen presence have improved remarkably. (It was good to begin with, but it's quite excellent now.) Well done Spartacus, and thank you for doing what you do.
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Dear Mr. Olsson, thank you so much for the captivating manner of giving us this detailed and enlightening account, it was a pleasure to watch and listen to.
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Really good episode, Spartacus. I like how you've emphasised the ways in which politicians manufacture and propagandise perceived threats.
This, indeed was a masterclass! Thank you, Spartacus!!
Never Forget!!
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the amazing focus on the details what was true and what were lies makes for such a good source of information and really shoots down any argument an extremist might come with. Such an amazing channel this is thank you
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Great work as always Spartacus, but this time i didn't cry! Greetings from France I was happy to hear you considered yourself a french.
Never forget.
These words get me every time.
If my eyes aren't full of tears already by what came before in the typical WAH or special video, they will be now.
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Excellent doc, as always, but a correction: The Spanish Republic was far from be a communist regime. The communist party was very secondary. Even the Stalin's target during our civil war was just to get an alliance with France. Not a communist regime! When Stalin failed (Munich Conference)he left the Spanish Republic.
One of the more fascinating episodes. I find these terrifying glimpses into the inner workings of this insane but so very real ideology and socio-political system most interesting, much more so than strictly military history.
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Very sobering to see how desperate people can be led down an unspeakably dark path. Absolutely engrossing and terrifying presentation. Great work.
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I always love these videos. They are a incredible way to remember the dark past that we all struggle and want to forget - specially during these times a podcaster here said that "should be a NSDAP party legalized" because of "free speech".
As a historian once said (i don't remember which one rn, but i think it was Marc Bloch) "the objective of the historian is to reminds the society what she want to forget". Continue the good work, boys.
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Shakespeare, ‘Cry ‘Havoc!’ and let slip the dogs of war’ pops to mind. Great episode Spartacus.
@@GaudiaCertaminisGaming THX, I did a little read on the subject. Sparty's delivery trigger my thought. Also the word Havoc had a more drastic and literal meaning in the time that Shakespeare wrote.
Which play is that? Richard III?
@@DrJones20 Shakeseare’s Julius Caesar.AS I read from web.
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Spartacus, thank you for grinding down on this and teasing it apart. By contrast, everything else I have read on this speech has been, by comparison, an overview.
Thanks, glad I could be of assistance.
There is a German joke
"Do you want Total War?"
"No!"
"What do you want then?"
"Maoam!" (Maoam is a chewy sweets)
I'm always impressed with the amount of detail you guys put into your videos. I consider myself a WW2 buff, but I didn't know about this speech or what was in it. I knew that these became the Nazi party's stance in the war, didn't know when it was broadcasted to the people. Fascinating stuff. I've found it hard to find these speeches translated into English, maybe because it will inspire Neo Nazi's or something? I just want to know what they were saying exactly to get these people so fired up they thought they could control the world.
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I am positively exhilarated by the stunningly accurate pronounciation of foreign words, never mind the historical accuracy and precise, clear and charismatic narration. Fantastic job.
Timing is everything.
One of my favourite parts of watching these is when really stupid decisions are made by the axis , or when they say contradictory statements based on false information, he just sits there quietly, for 2 seconds, shuts his eyes(as if to shake off the stupidity), exhales, and says "But,"
The presentation on this channel is so excellent thank you so much for such a good public resource
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Wow!!! Such a profunde Work and Close Look into the Details, really good Job.
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The "unconditional surrender" demand was stating what had existed since 1939, that WWII was an existential struggle.
the nazi party: "We will be also closing down luxury restaurants."
Goering: "Over my dead body!!!"
Allies: We could arrange that
"Be careful what one wishes for", I guess
Goebbels was picking up on a shift to the left in British elections which would see Churchill
SPOILER
defeated in 1945. The by-elections tended to tell that story, with fringe candidates picking up surprisingly large votes and occasionally winning. There was a wartime truce, so by-elections were normally not contested by mainstream parties - for example, a previously Conservative-held seat would not be contested by Labour or the Liberals, in an attempt to give the new Conservative candidate a free run. But instead independents and eccentrics would throw their hat in the ring.
Laughed very hard at the idea of Goebbels making claims about a communist revolution in Peebles 😂
Edmund Blackadder screams.
@@aleksazunjic9672 This is the same nonsense that this entire video is talking about. Did you learn nothing?
Vague slogans about undefined, sinister enemies, "cultural marxists" being no different to "Judeo-Bolshevists" or the like. Whipping up fears of conspiracies that don't actually exist, in order to convince stupid people to be afraid of anything vaguely left or liberal in character.
@@aleksazunjic9672 The video at the top of this page literally addresses that exact claim. It's confirmation bias, nothing more. The majority of the Bolshevik party were orthodox Christians and atheists. Jews were present, e.g. Trotsky and Martov, but as a minority.
You're on a video about the dangers of fascist propaganda and you're repeating fascist propaganda. Think about that.
@@Ahrlin9
I just took the effort to look into who composed the politbureau in 1917.
Would you have the courtesy to define what is a majority? Just so that we are talking about the same subject.
@@Ahrlin9 Martov was a Menshevik who self exiled himself after the October Revolution
Such a well written and rigorous video. Would love to see more analysis of speeches and public sentiment on this channel. To understand the war, you need to understand the state of mind of each government
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Sparticus, Indy and their teams are an incredible resource. This should be required viewing in all history classes.
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Want to add a small correction. During a war with Frederick the Great Peter wasn't a tzar. If I remember correctly he was a fan of Frederick and when he BECAME a tzar he immediately sued for peace and offered to become Frederick's ally. So Peter didn't fight Prussia at all.
Yes, Peter was a "germanophile" and could barely speak russian, as he was Prussian born. When Empress Elizabeth died and he became the Tzar he immediately withdrew Russia from the war.
You are doing invaluable work here. Thanks Timeghost.
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Great speech, great man !
Nice touch with the clock. "It was two minutes before midnight."
Always so impressed with this channel and Mr. Olson himself. Very enjoyable thanks time ghost army and crew
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Enjoyed this thanks lot's
The Allies: Bruh you are abit late on the Total War thing
Thanks!
In addition to being a historical statement, this video is a great commentary on the nature of evil as well.
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Along with many of your other excellent presentations, this rings of modern familiarity. 8:30 is like listening to my neighbor -- without all the cursing. Rural living, I guess...
Is the cursing fair and balanced as well?
Another good video lads (and lasses) keep it up never forget …..
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Another great production! Thanks for all you do
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How about an episode about the early use of Television in WW2, the Germans were in many ways ahead of their time with outside broadcasting, lifestyle and variety programmes..
They had a lot of modernist tv shows. For instance...
Heinz's Helden
Gunther's Island
Let's Make a Deal That You Can't Refuse
My Price is Right
I Love Lilly
Das Bormann Bundel
Wheel of Misfortune
Schaden-Fruende
Das ist Altvays Funniezisch im der silly Delphie
Excellent video!
I've noticed that your 'doom clock' is set for 3 to 12. That's quite accurate to be honest. Well done 👏.
"Well, I for one did not ask for total war" (German civilian in 1945)
Very thoughtfully presented
“When logs need to be added to the fire, how many people would demolish their house for fuel? That’s what it means to be trapped in total war… and stare into the darkness beyond.” -unknown
Thank you! I've been waiting for this episode for some time already
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The Casablanca declaration was possibly the worst move the Allies could have made at the time. Between this and the Morgenthau plan it gave propagandists in Germany all the fuel they ever needed to drag it out to the bloody end.
"Total war means total destruction". Not only Goebbels fault. WW1 in retrospect was a failure as an armistice was signed when Germany suffered minor war damage. It allowed later Hitler to claim that the German army was stabbed in the back. So this resulted in the Casablanca conference in 1943 to decide that only unconditional surrender would stop the war. Another reason for the Germans to fight to the end: the Nazi regime was involved in so many atrocities that any negotiations were impossible.
So well filmed and narrated. Brilliant stuff on what is such a enormous and often horrific set of events.
Thank you!
"I ask you, do you want pancakes ? If necessary, do you want a pancake more total and radical than anything we can imagine today ?"
Joseph goebbels' order at Denny's
Lmao underrated
Well said Sparty as usual... never forget...
The quality reporting I expect from this channel. Great job again men and women of the Time Ghost Army.
We thank you very much!
A few errors about Fredrick the Great. It was the Death of Empress Elizabeth of Russia that saved Fredrick. Peter was an ally of Fredrick so when he took over he stopped the war. Elizabeth had captured Berlin.
A little correction, Empress name was Catherine, and one more interesting fact: she was German.
@@Namooro NO! Catherine the Great was after Peter, her husband. In fact she over-though him. Empress Elizabeth who fought Fredrick was was Peter's Aunt. see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_of_Russia especially the section on the Seven Years war and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_the_House_of_Brandenburg
And Germans routinely praised Frederick For his genius but He had lost the the war until the Death of the Tsar.
He won tactical victories but no change the strategic picture
I am often asking myself, how could such an hysterical form of speech be so successful? Even to this day, everytime a see a hysterical Speech full of iron and sulfur, I can only think of single Moment in the Sportpalast 1943. Proufs to me that people never learn from History!
This speech (which can be heard online) has a major slip where Goebbels starts to say the Ausrottung (eradiacation) of the Jews, and then catches himself and converts it to the softer Ausschaltung. I am not, however, sure that this slip penetrated much at the time. Victor Klemperer, for example, was aware of the Total War speech and wrote some about it, but he never mentions "eradication." By this point he was pretty aware of what was going on, and if any of his friends had noticed this, it would have circulated in the Jewish gossip network in Dresden.
Very well done coverage.
EXCELLENT episode, way to go!!!
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Superb as always
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Excellent per Usual Sparty❗👍🏻👍🏻🥃-Cheers
Nice episode the qaulity of your episodes is getting better every time continue so all the world should know history as it happend so we dont make the mistakes of the past and take the lessons from it to our present
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Thanks once more for your work and dedication!
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great episode!
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Hi Sparty
That awesome video.
Analyzing each of goebelles speech and dissecting it..
Which is full of deception..
Thanks team...
Never forget..
A true Master Class on fake news, spin and propaganda and I was constantly reflecting on recent political announcements from the last couple of decades to current.
4:40 ironically enough the war was indeed pretty short, but definitely not for the same reason they intended.
If you think about it, the war on the eastern front lasted less than 4 years. Considering the mind-boggling distances involved, I'd day 4 years is not that much at all.
@@michaelkovacic2608 the casualties are even more insane. Look at stalingrad on the map. 2 million people died in an area that small? Doesn't look like it could even hold that many bodies. But it did happen, and it's insane.
exactly my thoughts
I'm very happy that my great-grandfather, Karl Franz Hildebrandt, decided that after WW1, he had enough and moved to Switzerland!
And funny note: Recently we did DNA tests in the family and came to the conclusion that from our german side, they were not even technically german to start with but originally from Scandinavia and Ireland/Scotland! :D
Or we in Scandinavian origin in Germany with all the rapes from the Swedish armies of mercenaries from Germany.
Do you guys think Erich Ludendorff's post-WWI writings, particularly "Der Totale Krieg", influenced the Hitler and Goebbels' decision in 1943 to pursue a total war instead of seeking a political solution?
@Keith Lucas I implore you to ask this on the TimeGhost.tv forums because it's a great question, and I'd love to see the answer to it myself. That's the place to submit questions that Indy or Sparty can respond to in Out of the Foxholes episodes. Thanks for watching!
@@WorldWarTwo Done.
Again a great episode keep up the great work to bring history to the masses
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These video series is a masterclass of visual arts and storytelling. I grew up in Israel, and this is more accurate than most of our Holocaust studies during high school. Thank you Spartacus!!
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Interesting note about Horcher. It is said Goering told the owner to flee Germany somewhere before 1945. Now Madrid hosts the Horcher, which is one of the best restaurants in the city, and the only one that still requires men to wear a jacket in order to go in.
Now we see how apocalyptic the Reich really is.
No, this whole speech - apart from the new rules about a few slackers and women - was just a mood lifter rather than actual policy shift.
They didn't divert resources from the efforts against undesirables. Those resources could have gone towards fighting the Russians.
In a couple weeks are y’all start the WWIII live coverage?
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