hey it may help to reachout to the comunity for how to stream, or maybe other yotubers man, i suck with tech, so i ask around on places like reddit... sometimes it helps ^^;
Hey, you forgot about one of thw most funny BS mechanics in helldivers: there is armour, that has 50/50 chance of preventing ANY and EVERY lethal demage, just blanking that. There is no limit for stacking that, and that makes Mimics even more Fd up, because with every time backup there is a new roll made, and that chandes who's gonna be alive
The acting strange only works if you're known someone more than 5 minutes. I knew this isn't in the original movie, which I think is what you're basing all its abilities off of but I would still like to add that every time in the remake of the first movie It actually gets better at mimicking humans. The only reason that it got caught in the end of the movie. Is because it couldn't mimic non organic material, which made it lose the earrings that the guy had. As for the Terminids getting immunity, unlikely, unless they become Supercelled organisms themselves. If they can put some type of inorganics, shield around each individual cell that would work. So maybe biological metal?
The fact helldivers seem to know how to perfectly or at the very least almost perfectly know how to not only use any weapons but can Also drive that mech thing. Heavily implies helldivers has lots of training
Maybe they get some simulated training during cryosleep on the super destroyer. Or it could just be that Super Earth society is just militarized enough for them to understand it. Or just gameplay dev magic.
Many people have no idea how physically fit these damn Helldivers are. Like damn, they can sprint and jog long distances within 30 minutes and still able to shoot straight. Like that's insane! They'll have to be physically fit at the young age of 7 to be able to maintain such elite physical prowess.
It probably has a lot to do with how they seem to be drugged out of their mind. The stims are just a painkiller from what I gather, they don’t heal the broken leg, they just make it so you don’t feel the bones grinding against each other and tearing up the muscles when you sprint
@@handleonafridge6828 no, they do heal and regen organic tissue... If not your helldivers would bleed out in a matter of seconds after having a chest open wound from a 19mm cannon, no matter if it doesn't hurt, blood still spilling. And in the case of bones well, you need bones and nerves to be able to move your body, having a severed bone will make it impossible to move your body properly as muscles would squeeze the severed bone and make improper moves that might lead to broken nerves and no matter how painful or not painful it is, it won't move. It still has some "weird" effects as they can cause nausea, hypertension and other symptoms buuut the diver should survive those. It also can't heal severed limbs bc it spread through blood vessels and if there isn't any way to get to the wounded limb then the stim won't have any real effect
@@handleonafridge6828there’s a video in the game showing how the stims quite literally make the body put itself back together fully healed, your arm hanging off your shoulder by a thread? Pop a stim and shove that arm back where it belongs and watch it reattach and heal near instantly
People are also forgetting the almost impossible levels of endurance and strength these helldivers have. A recoilless rifle, or an Auto Cannon by themselves unloaded weigh no less than 35-40 pounds, maybe even more, plus the backpacks of ammunition they have easily making some of their support loadouts easily 80+ pounds of weight, WITH their guns, extra mags, grenades, AND ARMOR! Like holy shit. These mfs are sometimes easily carrying over 100 pounds of equipment on them... WHILE BEING ABLE TO RUN FOR 40+ MINUTES STRAIGHT. No regular human with the best military training ever can do that. These guys are not untrained chumps.
I don't know the lore, but the helldivers might have some sort of assistance from their suit, as the combat technicians suit description says itself that "Due to the enhanced strength caused by this armor, caution is advised when using door handles or embracing colleagues."
People out here REALLY claiming the Xenomorph is some kinda bullet proof juggernaut? Because we totally didn't see Xenomorphs turned into goop with a Hick's shotgun which was an Ithaca Model 37...Current day weaponry? So...Idk where the smooth brains over dosing on cope fumes are pulling that argument from.
I can't exactly remember lore. I think It was in the comics, but I remember hearing that the Colonial Marines use explosive rounds with most of their guns. I am just saying that what I remember hearing, not try Cause a argument with you. (I am rather tone deaf with texts so i sorry if this came off rude)
I remember my brother convinced me xenomorphs were near invincible to conventional means because my first exposure to them was Alien Isolation where you of course can’t hurt them with bullets. You can only imagine how much Aliens mind fucked me
I don’t know where they get this bulletproof shit from lol but he is completely wrong about the acid blood. In my opinion if bug blood was as bad as Xeno blood, we would see bugs melting into and away the environment when they are killed.
To further prove the stupidity of The Thing, in The Thing(2011) it has the chance to escape on the helicopter but decided to attack the other guy. Could’ve escaped.
Also, pretty sure the creator said that the thing needs a large part of itself to touch the person to assimilate. Small amounts of cels would be fought off by the person’s immune system.
@@tchoythao1730 the Thing is relatively inconsistent, but yeah it needs a certain mass (not that much but still a decent portion) to get into/on someone. But the intelligence is also weird since certain aspects of it seem very intelligent but then it acts stupid at other times. But best way is to put as it has low self preservation instincts, and low social skill, but information it's pretty smart.
The lore states that you have to be a member of the SEAF for a certain length of time before you're allowed to go to Helldiver school. Helldivers are much like Army Rangers, where you have to serve for at least 6 months before you can volunteer, then you have to go through Ranger school. The tutorial that you play through is essentially your Helldiver graduation and final weeding out process, including live-fire training, pulling the trigger on live enemies, orbital strike acclimation, etc Not to mention your Helldiver can reload every sidearm with 1 hand while carrying a ballistic shield/objective item
Some people fail to realise how built different these helldivers are. In heavy armor they can Run continuously while having A BALLASTIC SHIELD and a 4 BAREELED BAZOOKA. Not to mention their primary, secondary, and grenades
One of the most impressive feats of Helldivers, that really shows their gun culture, is their ability to reload while sprinting, or even prone and moving. imagine crawling on your belly, using just your legs while using your hands to reload. They do this flawless and with great speed.
the reason helldivers have such a low life span is because they are essentially getting air dropped deep into enemy territory to mess up their stuff. Their missions start and end with them being surrounded on all sides by hostile forces but more often than not they still manage to complete all their objectives, all their secondary objectives and destroy all enemy production facilities before getting extracted within 40 minutes.
All the while killing potentially thousands of enemies within that span of time, with less than 20 reinforcements. This is your reminder, we took 7 weeks to take the Creek, and it the number was for every Helldiver killed, it was 14 Bots eating shit.
The seven foot tall argument probably comes from the tutorial, where the voice recording of Brasch tells you "Look at you. You remind me pf me when i completed training- 8 foot tall and immortal."
Yup, and this has been a point of contention when some salty Halo fans tried to pretend a single ODST could do the job of a full Super Destroyer by himself. But from evidence in game your average Super Earth citizen has basic proficiency with most your standard Helldiver rifles and they of course start building that proficiency from 7 onwards. And there definitely is evidence of wide variation in this if you talk to the chief engineer vs other members of the crew and the lore blurbs on the planet. But best guess is that those of a more upper strata, aka the citizens of actual Super Earth and those of a Higher Citizenship class on other worlds, are able to buy and train with better weaponry, and since Super Earth has a HEAVY emphasis on their citizens donating particularly to their enlisted Helldiver family members, it can be somewhat inferred that most military gear can be privately purchased and owned (a libertarians wet dream) of course on the grounds that the individual is blindly loyal to the state before their family or even their own self preservation instinct (an authoritarian Marxists wet dream). And becoming a Helldiver is open to all strata of society, for example (if I remember correctly it's been a month and a half since I last played since the game was actually eating away at my health I was playing so much) the Chief Engineer had considered signing up but she didn't qualify and her tone made it seem like it might have been either physical aptitude or proficiency. So basically the Helldivers are the best from a militarized civilian population which considering the requirements for joining in the first game, and the vaguely loosened standard in the second game we're looking at highly capable soldiers who have been self taught, from a young age ala spartan style, and whose screening process demands individuals able to meet a standard set by elite officers who were all effectively special forces or better 100 years ago.
@@MarkDXironwill ok not sure what you mean there maybe I'm misreading. But all this shows is that the Super Earth Citizen raises the minimum bar over the vast majority of civilians populations in both IRL and most other military fiction. But that's still just raising the minimum bar, but if you have been through the multiple stages of military training if you can cut out that initial training or even a part of it, that drastically cuts down on the amount of training needed. Most of your Super Earth citizens are Militia/Conscription/National Guard ready right out the door no training needed, where to reference IRL militaries Russia gives their conscripts about one to two months of training with their more intensive training for advanced tasks going up to six months, Super Earth by putting the expectation on their citizens and operating on a weird sense of coerced volunteerism are probably able to effectively cut that down to near nothing. Most military fiction games either avoid the topic of training civilians into soldiers or insist on an absurd "best of the best" ... Or both
I don't think super earth has actually fallen. Original Helldivers had two endings. One where all hostile factions are eliminated and one where super earth falls, and it just repeats the cycle every few months. But its pretty clear to me that the events of the game only happened once and super earth won
Next invaders to try The Challenge could be: Skynet ( Terminator) The Marsians ( Mars attacks) The Marsians (DC) Thanos army (MCU) The Empire (Star Wars)
Gotta add The Covenant from Halo. Seeing as how Super Earth has seemingly similar tech to the post-war UNSC but with way more numbers, I wonder how they’d stack up to a covenant of aliens with tech seemingly a bit worse that Illuminate tech.
@@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger don't forget to those machines, the tall walking one and the guardian sphere helmets that somehow can just dodge incoming bullets in sphere mod, or the brute aliens specifically the berserkers, the chosen, and lastly fuck those nano machines ass
video idea: "would these armies beat helldivers?" basically: super-earth military vs other militaries or "would these planets get liberated by super-earth?" i just want anything helldivers related also you sounds like a stereotypical cowboy
Something else you missed about the Kaiju, the Kaiju themselves don’t need the pollution, the precursors, the beings making the Kaiju want it because that allows them to terriform the world easier. They don’t need it, they just want it to be able to use the resources of earth. The Kaiju are perfectly capable of lasting in their own without it
25:57 appreciate you covering the slip up, but am also excited to see reign of fire discussed in the future! Very overlooked movie and dragons are just generally cool to see! 29:10 i've heard so the Nukes in Pacific Rim are stronger than IRL nukes. Or at least the one that Striker Eureka was strapped with how it was able to function that deep underwater and cover as much ground as it did. Still probably not enough to matter with what those helldiver vessels are capable of in the grand scheme of things perhaps, super earth still may need to ruin a number of worlds befoee things are over though
Another thing for the Helldivers and their survivability. 2 minutes is the AVERAGE. You could have some divers that die before they even come out of their pods. You could have some divers surviving an op and extracting with multiple hundred kills under their belt. And for each Helldiver that died, they had a cushion made from the corpses of 200 enemies for EACH diver to catch them in hell. "Helldivers, this is command. One of your own has been infected-" Divers: "Say less."
the arguement that super earth has been lost before because of HD1 shouldn't be used becuase when the galatic war ends in either super earth victory or super earth being lost the entire war is reset to the begining, so its more of a branching end to a story and we can't tell which one we got for the HD2 canon
id like to see an untrained person do a hundred meter sprint wearing full body armor, carrying at least 100+ pounds of weapons and ammo, breathing through an enclosed respirator, over uneven ground, while reloading, and being shot at. And then do that again and again and again for 45 straight minutes. Nearly superhuman this is well beyond current olympic athleticism aka a lifetime of training. Thats not to mention what youve already said about hacking and weapon knowledge. Such an asinine argument, thanks reddit!
@@Monkeylighthouse at least theres some insubstantial evidence with the chain of stasis helldiver pods on the ship or the rocket-ship of stasis helldivers you extract on defense missions. But youre totally right the war would look very different if it were the truth
@@bigdawg2246 The planet defense missions we learned were Helldivers from the First Galactic War, so these are actual honest to god elite soldiers who survived the war.
I could be wrong but isn't the 7ft thing just a meme? The community made up a bunch of stuff about Brash for meme purposes, and I think one of those was him being 7ft tall. I don't think we actually have any official information about Brash.
I think the same thing would happen... unless it appeared directly on Super Earth (except in the case of ghidorah) it would be enough destroy the planet it is on, that is, if Super Earth did not build some kind of super weapon
Super earth still has the dark fluid. They have entire facilities for it's creation. When we take out meridia they state that it will take some time to replenish and this new strategy should be a last shot thing. But they can replenish it.
Bruv the HD weapons are absolutely SHREDDING the Xenos! I just watched Alien Romulus last week and shortie had a regular pulse rifle that just had auto aim and light armor piercing rounds and it shredded thru a small group of Xenos no problem at all.. the scorcher, judicator, sickle, auto cannon, arc thrower, quasar, flame thrower, grenade launcher, anti tank, commando, and spear are going to absolutely COOK the Xenos!😂
interesting fact, in the first game if any faction takes over super earth, it does show a cut scene of super earth getting completely destroyed and given this happens when even the bugs take over, and they clearly don't know how to do that, does imply some how some way super earth can completely destroy a planet and they're willing to destroy super earth itself if it's lost cuz they're that petty, it could have been every super destroyer blowing it up, or a preplanned set up but no matter how they do it they know how to do it if they need to do it without dark fluid, and this is complete destruction of the planet, like one big boom and then there's no more planet, one issue is that they are very hesitant to do that for some reason, that they only do that upon losing super earth which makes me think they already set up super earth to explode as for fighting cyborgs and the bots within the "100 years of peace" (all we know is that its been 100 years between the 2 wars and leading up to the 2nd war there was an era of peace), the timeline for the bots is that before the cyborgs lost the first war, they made the bots and then threw them out the galaxy as cyberstan was at the edge of the galactic map, they were given the purpose of living peacefully, and within those 100 years the bots built themselves up outside of the reach of super earth and they either heard the bugs broke out or just happen stance they came back at the same time as the bugs broke out, but either way they sent a vanguard to poke at super earth to see how strong their forces are, and that was the start of the 2nd galactic war, the start of the 2nd galactic war was the first encounter with the bots for super earth, and the cyborgs were completely subjected at the end of the 1st war, so there's been no major conflicts within the 100 years so much so that the helldivers were disbanded which wouldnt make sense if they were still needed for any type of fighting, there was an era of peace between the 100 years separating the 1st and 2nd war, there is no debate on if that happened, it has been said there was this era of peace for super earth within those 100 years, they just kept having that type of culture within that era of peace that's just the setting
i think the Helldivers would've been shooting at dissidents inbetween the 1st and 2nd galactic wars. Kind of like how the first hellpod drops destroyed the parliament of the cyborgs first attempt to secede which made the cyborgs even more militant in turn.
18:25 to be fair in the game all the planets have corpses of colonists with their faces exposed and in the evac missions theyre also not wearing any sort of space or sealed suits so helldivers 2 armor may or may not be vacuum sealed
Those are just the basic SEAF infantry totally different from the Helldivers abd from that we can assume most of the planets have some form if atmosphere
The 7ft tall one i think is just a throwaway line in the training. General brasch say you remind him of a younger version of himself and the last thing he says is 7ft tall
If humans got the time loop, they wouldn't even kill the omega. They'd close off the planet it's on and abuse the fuck out of the time loop ability, find a way to capture an alpha to give it to a scientist to SKYROCKET the speed at which research can be done Plus advanced training in a fraction of the time, and guaranteed victory in battle against other factions.
Also an additional point about conventional weapons not working against Xenomorphs, Isolation seems to contradict whats already been shown on screen. In Romulus a xenomorph is essentially damaged/scared by a cattle prod, in Alien one Ripley shoots thru the OG xeno with a grappling hook/harpoon gun, said grappling hook/harpoon gun didnt seem to have any special properties. Lastly in alien, hicks kills a xeno morph with a 20th century shotgun, amittedly he stuck it in its mouth but later in the movie vasquez is shown dispatching a xeno with a contemporary 9mm pistol. The decision to make the xeno impervious to conventional fire arms was done solely for gameplay and plot reasons
I mean, to be fair with the xenomorph comments, not their contents and what they're complaining about, but you're limiting the xenomorphs to just what's in the movies, and not the stuff that's shown up in the Alien games, where different, more specialized types of Xenomorphs show up in ways they can't in movies that have had fairly lackluster budgets. Like, xenomorphs have their own tank and ranged units, as well as being able to survive in the vacuum of space. As for the 'Helldiver guns can't hurt xenomorphs' thing, that leans more towards stuff on sidearm to light arms level. Regular ballistic pistols and SMGs won't do a thing to a xenomorph, but the stronger rifles and more high-tech guns will put holes in them just as easily as a Pulse Rifle would. Essentially, lower-end weapons won't do much, mid-to-high-tier weapons will kill a xenomorph just as good as anything that can kill them in the Aliens franchise. It all comes down to how big the figurative bullet you're hitting a xenomorph with is. As for the air-tight armor, I do have to point out that the Viper Commando armor is just, flat-out, immersion breaking in any of the extremely hostile environments. In a vacuum, like space or the surface of the Moon, having your arms exposed will just kill you from depressurization. As for The Thing not being able to get through the armor, that's just a not true. There are gaps between the armor plates where The Thing will be able to get through the under armor by stabbing or biting or clawing the shit out of the Helldiver. If the Terminids can get through the gaps in the armor plates, The Thing can, too, by just, attacking the Helldiver with all manner of body-horror bullshit. Also, the fact that the Helldivers win against the Mimics simply from having more bodies to throw at them than they can possibly actually deal with is hilarious.
Pulse rifle caliber isn’t even that big based on what the gun actually does in the media. It still fires relatively normal sized bullets. Even if ALL of the standard caliber based guns don’t do anything to them, we still have all the support guns, the erupter, exploding crossbow, plasma punisher, scorcher, purifier, and arc blitzer that all fire ridiculously powerful projectiles. Arguably the helldivers weapons outscale the entire arsenal of space marines in the alien universe,
@@RiceCubeTech It took five seconds to google what they fire. The regular, standard-issue Pulse Rifles fire a 10x24mm, explosive, caseless, light-armor-piercing round in a 99-round magazine. The standard-issue gun in Aliens fires a bigger bullet that does more shit than the standard-issue assault rifle in Helldivers 2, and it still takes shooting a xenomorph a lot with a Pulse Rifle just to kill one. If you bothered to actually read what I said, I said the bigger and more high-tech guns in a Helldiver's arsenal wouldn't have an issue getting through a xenomorph's armor. The entire arsenal outscales the one in the Aliens universe, sure, but normal xenomorph drones and warriors are already on the more durable side of the Terminids' and Automatons' units. That's not getting into the more specialized units like Praetorians or Crushers, which are even more heavily armored than a standard xenomorph. Or the fact that that's just talking about a xenomorph made from a human, not, say, a Terminid. Xenomorphs are immune to acid, and are faster, smarter, and just as durable as Terminids. Sure, xenomorphs can't really move from planet to planet on their own, but if they take a planet, the only faction in Helldivers 2 right now that could conceivably take it back are the Helldivers. The automatons hold no value whatsoever to a xenomorph hive, so they'd either hunker down and ignore the Automatons, or they'd completely overrun them. A standard xenomorph drone, not even a standard warrior, can already tear through metal plating, and their acid blood will melt through practically any of the Automatons' armor. The Terminids and Helldivers, though, are valuable targets that a xenomorph hive would go out of its way to go after, because they can use both to expand the hive, with Terminids being more valuable because they make bigger, stronger xenomorphs that can do more things.
To be fair, I’d that earth can make the device, it’s a bit more reasonable that Super Earth can, being more technically advanced, larger, and more experienced with alien biology.
The automatons weren't around 100 years ago because their creators, the cyborgs, were enslaved by super earth. The automatons are basically the children of the cyborgs that are trying to free them, avenge them.
@@marcos9396 According to my limited Halo lore knowledge the humans would rule in ground combat against the covvies but since the covenant's space ships are much superior to the UNSC ones they would just shoot them down and then glass the planet the humans were fighting on, so the helldivers will be fine until their super destroyers get destroyed (lol)
The thing’s actors were actually not told who was the thing to drive up the suspicion and paranoia, besides scenes where the thing reveals itself. Idk where you got your info from
For the mimics, doesn't the Omega know when someone else gets the time powers? I think it was a plot point that when the guy gets the time powers, after a couple resets the mimics realize and try to lure him into a trap with fake visions of the Omega's location then didnt kill him immediately because they knew he had the time powers too, the only way he got out of that was that he had plot armour and managed to find a tiny hole filled with water so he could off himself and restart before the mimics could stop him. Admittedly i dont think it would do much considering the helldiver who gets the time powers first would probably tell someone (most likely) and if they belive him (less likely) then more people would start hunting down Alpha's and then lots of helldivers with time powers but i think its still worth talking about.
I think people were referring to gaps in armor as in armor plates gaps where it's just fitted suit. Such as Spartans from Halo the solid plates has body glove under.
Here is a fact all gas weaponry in the hell divers Arsenal is stated to have the power to atomize opponents and they can just casually ignore the gas from the sterilizer, which again is the same acid that can atomize people as long as they’re wearing any armor that is equal to heavy armor, they can just ignore the sterilizer which is really crazy when you think about it I don’t know if the aliens have acid comparable, but yeah
@@LipeSun honestly, I will check the description later but I am pretty sure it says it atomizes which is really crazy when you think about it like what is the thing gonna do when every single one of the hell divers brings a gas guard dog
@@LipeSun yeah it does. I just checked still being able to atomize caustic materials still means it’s really strong and even then it’s still basically completely hard counters the thing
I would have to conjecture that the peacetime super Earth Army probably looks very similar to Modern China's Army where the Army is more a tool of the regime to maintain political support and continue indoctrination into their ideology. that is not to say that they are untrained But that is not really the focus of their training. But I would say that in the last hundred years there hasn't been anything bigger than a police action for the seaf military. The helldivers were disbanded after the end of the first war because there wasn't anyone for them to fight. Everything that has to do with the sudden outbreak of fighting is still largely fan conspiracy theory. That ranging from Super Earth let the bugs run wild because they needed something to fight or the illuminate did it as Revenge but both are still just conspiracy theories so far. But otherwise I think you're making very good points and I am learning things here
We know it was because of rampant breeding, like they bred them specifically to get E-710, which meant the aggressive traits were focused more by accident, and then they broke free of containment.
two things #1 the viper commando armour is not helldiver armour. helldivers can wear it, buts it's based off of the uniform of a seaf trooper, which is significantly weaker than helldiver armour. #2 people seem to think that just because the helldivers are expendable necessarily means that they are cheap and untrained. the helldiver core is expensive, with the cost of a single hellpod being more than the average citizens yearly salary. they wouldnt spend that kind of money on sending some random guy down to a planet.
If the earth in pacific rim can create their "mechs" , I don't see the reason why super earth won't be able to create their own version if the situation demands it, even if they don't, the later kaijus are shown to be still somewhat vulnerable to barrages of "big" missiles as shown in their presentation of the "new and shiny" mech star, heck a stable portal may be even worse for them because it means super earth will be able to infiltrate as they are enormous, sure, worst case they are underwater but again, if pacific rim earth can make deep sea resistant boms and mechs, I don't see why super earth won't be at least be able to make one submarine that can go super deep and capable to shoot nukes. Also, I don't see the reason why super earth will not be able to figure out the special properties of the mimics when scientists study and experiment on the corpses of regular killed mimics, also their time loop is somewhat limited so, the longer the fight lasts the more likely super earth will catch on there's something going on
@@dc7981 most low to mid level hunts he'd smash, yeah he might have trouble with elder dragons and whatnot... Given time and training/farming materials to make better equipment like in the actual game, he'd do great if not flawlessly. I'm not saying take them as they are and only are in his own series, he'd be plugged into the story at the beginning just like every other hunter. If that's the case his potential would destroy the meta in game.
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22:20 I... wouldn't agree with *that* specifically. Helldivers do have problems with killing their comrades and innocent people. I know they will follow the orders to do so, but you're saying that as if they're indifferent to the life of others. Protecting innocents is their duty. Many enlisted to defend their loved ones from danger.
Ive seen so many divers kill innocents just because they met quota of evacuation. this is technically lore accurate because everything you do in a mission is in the lore
I may be wrong but I’m pretty sure it’s mentioned a lot of the time that the termanid blood is not only easy to obtain for a fuel but it is also very very clean to use/burn
Okay, I might sound dumb, but there's a question I do have on the armor; I mean, it doesn't cover the whole body? There's whole system, light, medium, and heavy based on the protectiveness. While I have no doubt the plating of armor is just that tough to protect from acids and such, a lot of the body is covered by what seems to be just cloth - sure, it's still vacuum sealed and regulates a lot for the body, but so do our current day space suits, and those aren't quite acid proof me think. I just doubt every part not covered in plating is quite as tough as the space ship hulls the plating is equivelevant to. Of course this makes really no difference in gameplay since the localized damage can't really count for every inch, more armor just means more durability even if you're hit in "unarmored" part.
These parts could also be made of some material with high acid resistance, and even if not, if the soldier survived and depending on how bad the wound is, he could just use a stim or get a prosthetic limb later
Nah, saying "the Kaiju are the same as the Illuminate and therefore the Kaiju would be exterminated easily" is apples and oranges. The Illuminate were roughly man-sized and therefore vulnerable to bullets, while the Kaiju are much bigger than Bile Titans. The very first Kaiju in Pacific Rim is 302 ft tall, while Bile Titans are somewhere around 30 ft. If the Precursors bide their time, prepare, and send Kaiju in a surprise attack to Super Earth, I doubt Super Earth High Command would bombard the planet before giving themselves the opportunity to escape, considering their own corruption. While Super Earth definitely has the firepower to destroy Kaiju within days if not hours, along with bombarding planets, the Kaiju could win if they launched a surprise attack on multiple planets at once, especially if a surprise attack on Super Earth manages to cripple High Command by killing enough "elected" officials. Though, if they attack in 1 or 2 at a time, or if they can't have multiple portals at once, like in the movies, they will definitely lose- but I think an intelligent alien species would be able to recognize when to use a different tactic.
@@rougarabid Out of context? I'm demonstrating the differences in capabilities between the Illuminate and kaiju- and directly giving an example of a scenario where bombardment from space, your first solution, isn't feasible. And individual Helldivers themselves will be less effective. Portals completely change everything for kaiju. You say that portals won't make much of a difference, but that's a massive change in capabilities. If Kaiju were just on, say Navi VII, then easy, no problem at all, bombard them away. But portals, and the command of an intelligent species, completely changes everything. They can strategize and appear on any planet they want. Just because Super Earth has dealt with a species with portals before, does not mean every alien race with portals is going to fight the same. Which... was your point in Kaiju Argument #1. Comparing to the Illuminate. I don't think what I said was a strawman at all.
@@sammace7169 Illuminate can mind control that's a very, very, very big difference. You definitely did strawman his argument because you attempted to refute his argument with something completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Super Earth can turn a planet into a black hole now by sending in munitions into it, oops, guess we'll just send these munitions through the portal where the Kaiju are coming from, and create a blackhole on the other side, tee hee!
Super Earth destroys Super Earth if they lose the first galactic war in helldivers (1) Yes, this doesnt happen in lore, but if they wanted to they would blow up Super Earth and go find a new one
Incorrect on The Thing not being able to adapt. The Thing basically plays legos with genetics. Every new being it assimilates becomes another blueprint it can use. And it can utilize that ability any way it sees fit. Such as the "flower" in the kennel scene being made out of dog tongues and teeth. All it would have to do to take over the Terminids is assimilate one of them and then it gains their level of advanced adaptability. As for the Helldivers, they've gotta take off the armor at some point. They have to eat/drink something. At some point, they likely need a shower. All the Things would have to do is infiltrate a food source or water storage.
I just have a few questions for the Pacific Rim part. 1) does super earth have the ability to travel across universes? 2) how fast do super earth update their tech and weaponry? 3) would they risk nuking super earth itself if any kaiju just pops up there to say hi? I mean if the interdimentional aliens from pacific rim can just open a rift anywhere then whats stopping them from pulling a doom scenario on the main planet itself? There's also the fact that the aliens seem to subscribe to the school of send out the dogs first and if they kill it send a bigger one next and if they kill that send a bigger one in armor and strap it with acid guns...oh whats that they don't have enough pollution? Make one that can survive without duh or just make one with the sole purpose of kamikaze attacks and have em blow up the moment they exit the portal..........and if that one dies i guess their R&D department is working over time today lol, even in the movie it shows they're just poking the Earth's defences because they always sent better,stronger,faster kaiju and with different abilities each time never sending the same one twice even if it was sucsessful.Also i don't consider beating just the kaiju a victory considering they're less like the whole army and instead the equivalent to our scout fighter jets.......so yeah someone's gonna have to risk going through the portal and nuking it from the other side like in the movie and even then it would just give them more time before they can rebuild and open a new portal, keeping it open isn't a hell of an option lol.
In the first galatic war Super Earth has been under attack several times so it might be a challenge but nothing they haven't face in the past, they also wouldn't have to nuke the kaijus the space destroyers have big ass orbital lasers capable of obliterating bule titans in seconds, a dozen destroyers around the kaijus position could take it down in minutes and it could happen the dame way in the movies just send a nuke through the portal, the pollution it would be a huge factor but the biggest strength of the Helldivers universe is that all human kind is united to fight for Super Earth, there would most likely be people in charge of cleaning up the kaiju blood and no poachers trying to sell it to the black market, the government is already in charge of that trying to study and weaponize the kaijus
@@robertgl9079 thanks you've answered some of my questions but if super earth tried to study and eventually engineer their own Kaiju all that would do is create a literal arms race against their original creators lol, and nothing would get done. The aliens send their latest one so super earth use their own and beats it, causing the aliens to start making one that can beat super earths version only to then become an endless loop untill a breaking point is reached and all hell breaks loose. Also I did say that just defeating kaijus is not really a win con imo but just a my weapons beat your weapons situation and we don't really know how big of a scale the aliens are operating at in their own universe....could be just one planet at best or galaxies at worse so maybe blowing up a single entryway isn't gonna take em out for good just like how even though in the first movie they did exactly that, the second movie still exist so the threat isn't over just from that........that combiner Kaiju was awesome tho ngl. So the win con for Helldivers universe is just to keep screwing with the aliens plans until they either go all out or give up and that's it?
I don't think Super Earth might build their own kaijus, perhaps just build larger and stronger artillery, I am also not aware of all the pafici rim lore but from what I understand from the first movie is that Earth wasnt hospitable for the kaijus creators so they waited until the co2 levels increase and with the blue blood it kinda terraform the planet to send more and bigger kaijus, the kaijus might be able to resist the lasers but in the game every Helldiver has its own super destroyer, there are thousands or even hundreds of thousands destroyers capable of firing a death laser for several seconds, it has a cooldown but having a dozen of those destroyers concentrate the fire on one kaiju shouldn't be a problem, and from the movie at the beginning it was months between kaiju attacks, more than enough time for super Earth to produce stronger artillery And space destroyers and travel faster tha light in seconds you can go to one corner from the Galaxy to the other end, so calling reinforcements is something Helldivers are used to do against entire fleets invading several planets, once they detect a kaiju appearing in the ocean the response time from Helldivers would be quick, its not a matter of strength but of numbers and an attack from the kaijus as shown in the movie might not be enough to win Again I have only seen the first movie, and even if the kaijus try to invade other planets every planet in control of Super Earth has thousands of intercontinental ballistic missiles and stronger artillery and might eventually try to cross the portals themselves
What I like to add about the thing about its Stealth capabilities is based on the instinct of its species. Dog Thing got aggressive and probably felt cornered so it attacked the dogs the way it knew how. In the comics one of the things turned into a fish and its first instinct is to eat because it’s intellect is limited to a fish.
"Edge of Tomorrow" is still just such a weak name. I get that the director thought that "All you need is kill" (The name of the book) didn't fit his adaptation, but I personally think that just means the adaptation should have been different.
The 7 feet tall thing comes from the beginning totourial where before you get your cape, the guy on the speaker says that you are litterally unkillable and, most importantly, 7 feet tall.
For the points on pacific rim I feel like you generalized a lot of things. If the alien race that made the kaiju’s could design a EMP for leather back and give wings for Otachi, which allowed her to carry gipsy into the stratosphere. Then they could definitely design kaijus that could probably attack destroyers in orbit around planets. Not to mention that the alien race where able to design kaijus that could adapt to there enemies tactics, with slattern being able to survive a tactical nuke. Also the at the end when gipsy goes through the breach we see potentially hundreds of knife heads setting on a conveyer belt. In the end the aliens in pacific rim where clearly slowly releasing the kaiju because they wanted to leave the planet relatively intact so if they went full force against super earth I think they would have a solid chance
I honestly thought for a second I was going insane until I looked at the comments during the Pacific Rim part. My entire understanding of that movies plot was being upturned and my ass was dumbfounded lmfao
I assume the reason behind making a kaiju pregnant even if there is cloning, is likely to be able to send, in essence, a 2-in-1. And considering the situation, it might have even been an attempt at taking ground; leather-back’s city-spanning emp was incredibly effective at disabling the yeagers (with the sole exception of gypsy), and considering orochi (the one that can fly) is the pregnant one, it would establish 2 kaiju that would be able to more efficiently cover ground (no swimming needed to go to different land-masses either). That’s how I see it anyways.
Held divers are one of the few people/animal things to completely make it through a challenge and through a response video. And after the mortal kombat episode I was thinking either murder drones or SMG four for the next survival challenge.
I just comment right now to just increase your Workload. seriously. I really feel how hard it must be for you to suffer from success, how terrible it must be to have an active and engaged community. the incredible Workload cutting into your precious sleep.
Spartans certainly can, but ODSTs are nowhere near equipped for the kind of missions Helldivers face; their ammo would run out before the enemy's would.
Spartans: no shit. Your point? ODSTs: No. These fellas (like the other commenter said) would run out of ammo and die when the helldiver could call in as many resupplies as their budget allows.
Well depending on what version of Kaiju you are talking you would've been correct if you refer to hollow earth kaiju (godzilla) it would've been more correct. If you refer to Pacific Rim yes your origins were incorrect which they come from a rift underwater.
You know now that I think about it once Super Earth learns the time loop stuff is from blood transfer I can see them sending universal donors to gain the link to it and then giving it to their helldivers through blood transfusion.
The point of making a cloning system for something that can breed is becuase why would I wait for 1 kaiju to make 1 baby when I have a row of tubes that can make 10 of them at once. After they've gone through the portal they can naturally produce more creating more problems for the people you are invading.
Honestly I'd like to see you cover some of the more heavy hitters like the Flood, Tyrannids, and the Necromorphs (Markers) considering all of these are proper galaxy/universe ending threats. I think I remember the automatons use human brains as a neurological computer in each of the bots, but I could be wrong, so IF that is true then the automatons would also be subject to the Marker's mental effects, the flood hijacking beings' nervous systems, and... I don't know too much about the tyrannids but they're scary though.
Now we need some things that destroy the helldivers to balance this out: 1. Star Wars Galactic Empire, might actually be closer than I think but I believe the space superiority of star destroyers would end up annihilating super earth 2. 40k imperium 3. Halo Forerunners (the flood could probably do it too) 4. The Xeelee I went from least to most likely to win, the only real conversation here is the galactic empire and even then I think they got that in the bag.
On the thing: points about how it could take over the world extremely quickly, or are extremely proficient at hiding, or are airborne, all come from the original book. In the book it’d take a few days before things are beyond control, that the thing could assimilate the literal first bird or fish it sees to travel across water, and that it’s proficient at mimicking people. The movie removes some of this for realism/drama.
There's a thing comic where 1 of the thing is a sheep/goat and gets discovered by the survivor of the movie and gets recked, in a heavy brainwashed society of helldivers they will be discovered pretty easily
Might he wrong, but I thought that SE retired the Helldivers after the end of the 1st War as they weren't needed anymore. Then, unretired the branch once there was a need for them again. Meaning SE maintained the Federation with basic troops for a century. Which further solidifies the point of how good the military is that they didn't need their Special Forces Branch for a century lol.
...I can imagine it, Helldivers all dressing in Viper Commando armor to go fight Mimic Alphas as a 'proof of metal' to become SUPER HELLDIVERS who can't lose. You send them down to a planet, they die? They know how and where they died, go back, This applies across the board. I have a different theory Rouga; They'd WANT the Omega to survive, they'd see the Omega as a strategic asset. They'd wage war after war against the Mimic specifically to harvest their time cheat. Eventually, the mimic might evolve to better fight in said war, to better engage and preserve itself in this strange dystopian nightmare of being too useful to kill, but too useful to leave alone. Is it weird I can imagine Super Earth actually using this? And the Omega actually embracing it as the Helldivers are giving it a sort of permanence in exchange for what amounts to a galactic scale arm wrestling?
18:38 wrong. You can get shot and still be able to breath. The shots clearly penetrate the armour as blood is visible. Furthermore, firebased weapons still work on any planet in helldivers ergo all planets must have an atmosphere. Also the thing clearly cant just assimilate someone with just one cell becouse if it could, the whole movie wouldn't have occurd. I mean most of the dust in a room is comprised of dead skin cells (the things skin cells wouldn't be dead. I can explain if you want). So just being in the same room as the thing would assimilate you
I dont really care for live service games. Heres hoping that maybe they would make a story based game in this universe. My question is what kind would you like to see if they did? Like a mass effect? Or like rts? Or something like the warhammer games(which i haven't played yet but plan to)? Would the lore support a single-player focused games?
it would kinda go against the identity of the game. The whole point is that you're expendable and no single person matters, whenever your die and respawn you're canonically a different person, so it would be a bit weird to have a focused story that develops specific people. Even if it was more like a war campaign that you progress through rather than a story based game, it would be a bit boring since all you'd be able to do is win the war, then that's it. At that point why even have it set in the helldivers universe? Also there's not much lore to go on, no lore about specific characters, and barely any lore about specific events.
@Monkeylighthouse but at the same time fortnite took a live service game and invented lore stories inside of basically nothing...... so maybe it's possible.
Maybe because they are thinking from the comics with the thing like how they start to assimilate and at the end the last one of them got into the water and turned into a fish. I think it's been years since I read the comics but they are continuations from the movie if I remember correctly maybe that's where they are getting all that from idk it's been years for me. Also wait reign of fire as in the dragon heart series I grew up watching those movies that's what's up 👍🏽 I didn't think most people knew about those movies
In the first movie the thing is stated on multiple occasions to be a perfect copy, excluding metal implants. I havent seen the prequel in years so maybe it contricts this. But john himself told the acters go be normal, while he was reviewing the movie with kurt russel he states this. He didnt even want the acters to be sure.
Doesn't matter if it's a perfect copy, if a person suspects they're infected, they will blow their own brains out, that's how hard they've indoctrinated the people of Super Earth.
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Wait what did the comments say? I thought it was accurate
Hey, you forgot about one of thw most funny BS mechanics in helldivers: there is armour, that has 50/50 chance of preventing ANY and EVERY lethal demage, just blanking that. There is no limit for stacking that, and that makes Mimics even more Fd up, because with every time backup there is a new roll made, and that chandes who's gonna be alive
The acting strange only works if you're known someone more than 5 minutes.
I knew this isn't in the original movie, which I think is what you're basing all its abilities off of but I would still like to add that every time in the remake of the first movie It actually gets better at mimicking humans. The only reason that it got caught in the end of the movie. Is because it couldn't mimic non organic material, which made it lose the earrings that the guy had.
As for the Terminids getting immunity, unlikely, unless they become Supercelled organisms themselves.
If they can put some type of inorganics, shield around each individual cell that would work.
So maybe biological metal?
The fact helldivers seem to know how to perfectly or at the very least almost perfectly know how to not only use any weapons but can Also drive that mech thing. Heavily implies helldivers has lots of training
Nvm what I said 👽
@@TinToastCan okay boomer
@@TinToastCan bro never played Helldivers 1
People responding to this comment without even watching the video.
Maybe they get some simulated training during cryosleep on the super destroyer.
Or it could just be that Super Earth society is just militarized enough for them to understand it.
Or just gameplay dev magic.
Many people have no idea how physically fit these damn Helldivers are. Like damn, they can sprint and jog long distances within 30 minutes and still able to shoot straight. Like that's insane!
They'll have to be physically fit at the young age of 7 to be able to maintain such elite physical prowess.
It probably has a lot to do with how they seem to be drugged out of their mind.
The stims are just a painkiller from what I gather, they don’t heal the broken leg, they just make it so you don’t feel the bones grinding against each other and tearing up the muscles when you sprint
@@handleonafridge6828 no, they do heal and regen organic tissue... If not your helldivers would bleed out in a matter of seconds after having a chest open wound from a 19mm cannon, no matter if it doesn't hurt, blood still spilling. And in the case of bones well, you need bones and nerves to be able to move your body, having a severed bone will make it impossible to move your body properly as muscles would squeeze the severed bone and make improper moves that might lead to broken nerves and no matter how painful or not painful it is, it won't move.
It still has some "weird" effects as they can cause nausea, hypertension and other symptoms buuut the diver should survive those. It also can't heal severed limbs bc it spread through blood vessels and if there isn't any way to get to the wounded limb then the stim won't have any real effect
@@catur_a.C exactly. the stims are vital to helldiver support.
@@handleonafridge6828there’s a video in the game showing how the stims quite literally make the body put itself back together fully healed, your arm hanging off your shoulder by a thread? Pop a stim and shove that arm back where it belongs and watch it reattach and heal near instantly
People are also forgetting the almost impossible levels of endurance and strength these helldivers have. A recoilless rifle, or an Auto Cannon by themselves unloaded weigh no less than 35-40 pounds, maybe even more, plus the backpacks of ammunition they have easily making some of their support loadouts easily 80+ pounds of weight, WITH their guns, extra mags, grenades, AND ARMOR! Like holy shit. These mfs are sometimes easily carrying over 100 pounds of equipment on them... WHILE BEING ABLE TO RUN FOR 40+ MINUTES STRAIGHT. No regular human with the best military training ever can do that. These guys are not untrained chumps.
Agreed! These guys & gals are absolute units!
For Super Earth!
Adrenaline and were made for running to
I don't know the lore, but the helldivers might have some sort of assistance from their suit,
as the combat technicians suit description says itself that "Due to the enhanced strength caused by this armor,
caution is advised when using door handles or embracing colleagues."
@@minnesota15 Not every armour set is like that, can't explain the Viper Commandos armour giving that sort of bonus.
@@Ashen_Night116 pure will
"The thing could totally beat helldivers!"
The orbital napalm barrage in question:
People out here REALLY claiming the Xenomorph is some kinda bullet proof juggernaut? Because we totally didn't see Xenomorphs turned into goop with a Hick's shotgun which was an Ithaca Model 37...Current day weaponry?
So...Idk where the smooth brains over dosing on cope fumes are pulling that argument from.
I can't exactly remember lore. I think It was in the comics, but I remember hearing that the Colonial Marines use explosive rounds with most of their guns. I am just saying that what I remember hearing, not try Cause a argument with you. (I am rather tone deaf with texts so i sorry if this came off rude)
I remember my brother convinced me xenomorphs were near invincible to conventional means because my first exposure to them was Alien Isolation where you of course can’t hurt them with bullets. You can only imagine how much Aliens mind fucked me
I don’t know where they get this bulletproof shit from lol but he is completely wrong about the acid blood. In my opinion if bug blood was as bad as Xeno blood, we would see bugs melting into and away the environment when they are killed.
probs refering to some comics bs from a cross-over or soemthin.
which I'd say is cheating cause comics scaling.
To further prove the stupidity of The Thing, in The Thing(2011) it has the chance to escape on the helicopter but decided to attack the other guy. Could’ve escaped.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Your comment's grammar and wording just gave me a stroke.
@@keithlukens4400 sorry!
Also, pretty sure the creator said that the thing needs a large part of itself to touch the person to assimilate. Small amounts of cels would be fought off by the person’s immune system.
@@tchoythao1730 the Thing is relatively inconsistent, but yeah it needs a certain mass (not that much but still a decent portion) to get into/on someone.
But the intelligence is also weird since certain aspects of it seem very intelligent but then it acts stupid at other times. But best way is to put as it has low self preservation instincts, and low social skill, but information it's pretty smart.
The lore states that you have to be a member of the SEAF for a certain length of time before you're allowed to go to Helldiver school. Helldivers are much like Army Rangers, where you have to serve for at least 6 months before you can volunteer, then you have to go through Ranger school. The tutorial that you play through is essentially your Helldiver graduation and final weeding out process, including live-fire training, pulling the trigger on live enemies, orbital strike acclimation, etc
Not to mention your Helldiver can reload every sidearm with 1 hand while carrying a ballistic shield/objective item
Thank you for denouncing the lies against super earth. I'll inform my local democracy officer of your good service
And I will report those people who spread lies to my local democracy officer, so they get send to the re-education camp.
Lol
I felt a disturbance in the democratic force
True patriot I’ll personally insure your citizenship level is increased congratulations your kids may soon be able to have a small pet
Some people fail to realise how built different these helldivers are. In heavy armor they can Run continuously while having A BALLASTIC SHIELD and a 4 BAREELED BAZOOKA. Not to mention their primary, secondary, and grenades
If you steel-man the xenomorph argument; Helldivers can still use flamethrowers, lasers, grenades, and railguns instead of basic weapons.
One of the most impressive feats of Helldivers, that really shows their gun culture, is their ability to reload while sprinting, or even prone and moving.
imagine crawling on your belly, using just your legs while using your hands to reload. They do this flawless and with great speed.
Everybody: Well what if....
Helldivers: Nah, we'd dive.
the reason helldivers have such a low life span is because they are essentially getting air dropped deep into enemy territory to mess up their stuff. Their missions start and end with them being surrounded on all sides by hostile forces but more often than not they still manage to complete all their objectives, all their secondary objectives and destroy all enemy production facilities before getting extracted within 40 minutes.
All the while killing potentially thousands of enemies within that span of time, with less than 20 reinforcements. This is your reminder, we took 7 weeks to take the Creek, and it the number was for every Helldiver killed, it was 14 Bots eating shit.
And they still claim they are not elite soldiers note that only 4 Helldiver can be present in a mission against the thousands of enemies
The seven foot tall argument probably comes from the tutorial, where the voice recording of Brasch tells you "Look at you. You remind me pf me when i completed training- 8 foot tall and immortal."
And Brasch is NEVER wrong, you are literally 8 feet tall and immortal and logic be damned!
@@codyraugh6599 lol.
Would These Medieval/Fantasy Characters Survive Game of Thrones?
Harry Potter,Peter Pan,Massimo Decimo Meridi, Finn the human and Hiccup son of Stoick the vast(Httyd)
Please add boromir, just as a joke. 🤣
The Dragonborn from Skyrim
So basically Helldivers are like Spartans. They get trained at a young age.
Yup, and this has been a point of contention when some salty Halo fans tried to pretend a single ODST could do the job of a full Super Destroyer by himself.
But from evidence in game your average Super Earth citizen has basic proficiency with most your standard Helldiver rifles and they of course start building that proficiency from 7 onwards. And there definitely is evidence of wide variation in this if you talk to the chief engineer vs other members of the crew and the lore blurbs on the planet. But best guess is that those of a more upper strata, aka the citizens of actual Super Earth and those of a Higher Citizenship class on other worlds, are able to buy and train with better weaponry, and since Super Earth has a HEAVY emphasis on their citizens donating particularly to their enlisted Helldiver family members, it can be somewhat inferred that most military gear can be privately purchased and owned (a libertarians wet dream) of course on the grounds that the individual is blindly loyal to the state before their family or even their own self preservation instinct (an authoritarian Marxists wet dream).
And becoming a Helldiver is open to all strata of society, for example (if I remember correctly it's been a month and a half since I last played since the game was actually eating away at my health I was playing so much) the Chief Engineer had considered signing up but she didn't qualify and her tone made it seem like it might have been either physical aptitude or proficiency.
So basically the Helldivers are the best from a militarized civilian population which considering the requirements for joining in the first game, and the vaguely loosened standard in the second game we're looking at highly capable soldiers who have been self taught, from a young age ala spartan style, and whose screening process demands individuals able to meet a standard set by elite officers who were all effectively special forces or better 100 years ago.
@@codyraugh6599okay now I smell some pride and bad ones to a certain extent to helldivers
@@MarkDXironwill ok not sure what you mean there maybe I'm misreading. But all this shows is that the Super Earth Citizen raises the minimum bar over the vast majority of civilians populations in both IRL and most other military fiction. But that's still just raising the minimum bar, but if you have been through the multiple stages of military training if you can cut out that initial training or even a part of it, that drastically cuts down on the amount of training needed. Most of your Super Earth citizens are Militia/Conscription/National Guard ready right out the door no training needed, where to reference IRL militaries Russia gives their conscripts about one to two months of training with their more intensive training for advanced tasks going up to six months, Super Earth by putting the expectation on their citizens and operating on a weird sense of coerced volunteerism are probably able to effectively cut that down to near nothing.
Most military fiction games either avoid the topic of training civilians into soldiers or insist on an absurd "best of the best" ... Or both
@@codyraugh6599 oh I think I see what you mean,
I don't think super earth has actually fallen. Original Helldivers had two endings. One where all hostile factions are eliminated and one where super earth falls, and it just repeats the cycle every few months. But its pretty clear to me that the events of the game only happened once and super earth won
Next invaders to try The Challenge could be:
Skynet ( Terminator)
The Marsians ( Mars attacks)
The Marsians (DC)
Thanos army (MCU)
The Empire (Star Wars)
Gotta add The Covenant from Halo. Seeing as how Super Earth has seemingly similar tech to the post-war UNSC but with way more numbers, I wonder how they’d stack up to a covenant of aliens with tech seemingly a bit worse that Illuminate tech.
What about the Aliens from XCOM? The only trump card they got are the psionic stuff
Don’t forget about The Combine!
@@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger don't forget to those machines, the tall walking one and the guardian sphere helmets that somehow can just dodge incoming bullets in sphere mod, or the brute aliens specifically the berserkers, the chosen, and lastly fuck those nano machines ass
Guys, what about the Yaujta(?) from Predator?!
I do enjoy these sir indeed. Thank you.
video idea: "would these armies beat helldivers?"
basically: super-earth military vs other militaries
or "would these planets get liberated by super-earth?"
i just want anything helldivers related
also you sounds like a stereotypical cowboy
EDF VS Helldivers.
Bruh that's what I was about to say 🤣🤣🤣@@adamblakeslee5301
@adamblakeslee5301 how do you even quantify that???
@@Rebel3000 they are both ridiculous and it would be glorious even if it's a landslide. Lol.
Relying to boost your comment.
Something else you missed about the Kaiju, the Kaiju themselves don’t need the pollution, the precursors, the beings making the Kaiju want it because that allows them to terriform the world easier. They don’t need it, they just want it to be able to use the resources of earth. The Kaiju are perfectly capable of lasting in their own without it
I just forgot the Netflix series but I thought they did need it for long term survival.
@@codyraugh6599same
25:57 appreciate you covering the slip up, but am also excited to see reign of fire discussed in the future! Very overlooked movie and dragons are just generally cool to see!
29:10 i've heard so the Nukes in Pacific Rim are stronger than IRL nukes. Or at least the one that Striker Eureka was strapped with how it was able to function that deep underwater and cover as much ground as it did. Still probably not enough to matter with what those helldiver vessels are capable of in the grand scheme of things perhaps, super earth still may need to ruin a number of worlds befoee things are over though
Another thing for the Helldivers and their survivability. 2 minutes is the AVERAGE. You could have some divers that die before they even come out of their pods. You could have some divers surviving an op and extracting with multiple hundred kills under their belt.
And for each Helldiver that died, they had a cushion made from the corpses of 200 enemies for EACH diver to catch them in hell.
"Helldivers, this is command. One of your own has been infected-"
Divers: "Say less."
the arguement that super earth has been lost before because of HD1 shouldn't be used becuase when the galatic war ends in either super earth victory or super earth being lost the entire war is reset to the begining, so its more of a branching end to a story and we can't tell which one we got for the HD2 canon
id like to see an untrained person do a hundred meter sprint wearing full body armor, carrying at least 100+ pounds of weapons and ammo, breathing through an enclosed respirator, over uneven ground, while reloading, and being shot at. And then do that again and again and again for 45 straight minutes. Nearly superhuman this is well beyond current olympic athleticism aka a lifetime of training. Thats not to mention what youve already said about hacking and weapon knowledge. Such an asinine argument, thanks reddit!
The clone argument is even worse, why would they send groups of 4 when they have an infinite army of elite soldiers 😭
@@Monkeylighthouse at least theres some insubstantial evidence with the chain of stasis helldiver pods on the ship or the rocket-ship of stasis helldivers you extract on defense missions. But youre totally right the war would look very different if it were the truth
@@bigdawg2246 The planet defense missions we learned were Helldivers from the First Galactic War, so these are actual honest to god elite soldiers who survived the war.
8:40 people are saying that they are 7ft cuz general brash says that they reminded him of his younger self (one of the points was being 7ft
I could be wrong but isn't the 7ft thing just a meme? The community made up a bunch of stuff about Brash for meme purposes, and I think one of those was him being 7ft tall. I don't think we actually have any official information about Brash.
I remember it being one of the perks being a helldiver in one of their ads so it isn’t just heresay.
Yeah, your explanation of Pacific Rim's Kaiju was so off that I thought you were talking about the Godzilla monsterverse.
I think the same thing would happen... unless it appeared directly on Super Earth (except in the case of ghidorah) it would be enough destroy the planet it is on, that is, if Super Earth did not build some kind of super weapon
Super earth still has the dark fluid. They have entire facilities for it's creation. When we take out meridia they state that it will take some time to replenish and this new strategy should be a last shot thing. But they can replenish it.
Bruv the HD weapons are absolutely SHREDDING the Xenos! I just watched Alien Romulus last week and shortie had a regular pulse rifle that just had auto aim and light armor piercing rounds and it shredded thru a small group of Xenos no problem at all.. the scorcher, judicator, sickle, auto cannon, arc thrower, quasar, flame thrower, grenade launcher, anti tank, commando, and spear are going to absolutely COOK the Xenos!😂
interesting fact, in the first game if any faction takes over super earth, it does show a cut scene of super earth getting completely destroyed and given this happens when even the bugs take over, and they clearly don't know how to do that, does imply some how some way super earth can completely destroy a planet and they're willing to destroy super earth itself if it's lost cuz they're that petty, it could have been every super destroyer blowing it up, or a preplanned set up but no matter how they do it they know how to do it if they need to do it without dark fluid, and this is complete destruction of the planet, like one big boom and then there's no more planet, one issue is that they are very hesitant to do that for some reason, that they only do that upon losing super earth which makes me think they already set up super earth to explode
as for fighting cyborgs and the bots within the "100 years of peace" (all we know is that its been 100 years between the 2 wars and leading up to the 2nd war there was an era of peace), the timeline for the bots is that before the cyborgs lost the first war, they made the bots and then threw them out the galaxy as cyberstan was at the edge of the galactic map, they were given the purpose of living peacefully, and within those 100 years the bots built themselves up outside of the reach of super earth and they either heard the bugs broke out or just happen stance they came back at the same time as the bugs broke out, but either way they sent a vanguard to poke at super earth to see how strong their forces are, and that was the start of the 2nd galactic war, the start of the 2nd galactic war was the first encounter with the bots for super earth, and the cyborgs were completely subjected at the end of the 1st war, so there's been no major conflicts within the 100 years so much so that the helldivers were disbanded which wouldnt make sense if they were still needed for any type of fighting, there was an era of peace between the 100 years separating the 1st and 2nd war, there is no debate on if that happened, it has been said there was this era of peace for super earth within those 100 years, they just kept having that type of culture within that era of peace that's just the setting
i think the Helldivers would've been shooting at dissidents inbetween the 1st and 2nd galactic wars.
Kind of like how the first hellpod drops destroyed the parliament of the cyborgs first attempt to secede which made the cyborgs even more militant in turn.
18:25 to be fair in the game all the planets have corpses of colonists with their faces exposed and in the evac missions theyre also not wearing any sort of space or sealed suits so helldivers 2 armor may or may not be vacuum sealed
Those are just the basic SEAF infantry totally different from the Helldivers abd from that we can assume most of the planets have some form if atmosphere
The 7ft tall one i think is just a throwaway line in the training.
General brasch say you remind him of a younger version of himself and the last thing he says is 7ft tall
If humans got the time loop, they wouldn't even kill the omega. They'd close off the planet it's on and abuse the fuck out of the time loop ability, find a way to capture an alpha to give it to a scientist to SKYROCKET the speed at which research can be done
Plus advanced training in a fraction of the time, and guaranteed victory in battle against other factions.
No ones gonna watch a respwans video if they haven't seen the original"
Me going in watching this first
given that larger animals reproduce slower, cloning would've been faster since the kaiju are gigantic animals
Also an additional point about conventional weapons not working against Xenomorphs, Isolation seems to contradict whats already been shown on screen. In Romulus a xenomorph is essentially damaged/scared by a cattle prod, in Alien one Ripley shoots thru the OG xeno with a grappling hook/harpoon gun, said grappling hook/harpoon gun didnt seem to have any special properties. Lastly in alien, hicks kills a xeno morph with a 20th century shotgun, amittedly he stuck it in its mouth but later in the movie vasquez is shown dispatching a xeno with a contemporary 9mm pistol. The decision to make the xeno impervious to conventional fire arms was done solely for gameplay and plot reasons
7:41 actually he probably wouldn’t die instantly. The marine might just underestimate a mere mortal and take a bullet to the visor.
I mean, to be fair with the xenomorph comments, not their contents and what they're complaining about, but you're limiting the xenomorphs to just what's in the movies, and not the stuff that's shown up in the Alien games, where different, more specialized types of Xenomorphs show up in ways they can't in movies that have had fairly lackluster budgets. Like, xenomorphs have their own tank and ranged units, as well as being able to survive in the vacuum of space. As for the 'Helldiver guns can't hurt xenomorphs' thing, that leans more towards stuff on sidearm to light arms level. Regular ballistic pistols and SMGs won't do a thing to a xenomorph, but the stronger rifles and more high-tech guns will put holes in them just as easily as a Pulse Rifle would. Essentially, lower-end weapons won't do much, mid-to-high-tier weapons will kill a xenomorph just as good as anything that can kill them in the Aliens franchise. It all comes down to how big the figurative bullet you're hitting a xenomorph with is. As for the air-tight armor, I do have to point out that the Viper Commando armor is just, flat-out, immersion breaking in any of the extremely hostile environments. In a vacuum, like space or the surface of the Moon, having your arms exposed will just kill you from depressurization. As for The Thing not being able to get through the armor, that's just a not true. There are gaps between the armor plates where The Thing will be able to get through the under armor by stabbing or biting or clawing the shit out of the Helldiver. If the Terminids can get through the gaps in the armor plates, The Thing can, too, by just, attacking the Helldiver with all manner of body-horror bullshit. Also, the fact that the Helldivers win against the Mimics simply from having more bodies to throw at them than they can possibly actually deal with is hilarious.
Pulse rifle caliber isn’t even that big based on what the gun actually does in the media. It still fires relatively normal sized bullets. Even if ALL of the standard caliber based guns don’t do anything to them, we still have all the support guns, the erupter, exploding crossbow, plasma punisher, scorcher, purifier, and arc blitzer that all fire ridiculously powerful projectiles.
Arguably the helldivers weapons outscale the entire arsenal of space marines in the alien universe,
@@RiceCubeTech It took five seconds to google what they fire. The regular, standard-issue Pulse Rifles fire a 10x24mm, explosive, caseless, light-armor-piercing round in a 99-round magazine. The standard-issue gun in Aliens fires a bigger bullet that does more shit than the standard-issue assault rifle in Helldivers 2, and it still takes shooting a xenomorph a lot with a Pulse Rifle just to kill one. If you bothered to actually read what I said, I said the bigger and more high-tech guns in a Helldiver's arsenal wouldn't have an issue getting through a xenomorph's armor. The entire arsenal outscales the one in the Aliens universe, sure, but normal xenomorph drones and warriors are already on the more durable side of the Terminids' and Automatons' units. That's not getting into the more specialized units like Praetorians or Crushers, which are even more heavily armored than a standard xenomorph. Or the fact that that's just talking about a xenomorph made from a human, not, say, a Terminid. Xenomorphs are immune to acid, and are faster, smarter, and just as durable as Terminids. Sure, xenomorphs can't really move from planet to planet on their own, but if they take a planet, the only faction in Helldivers 2 right now that could conceivably take it back are the Helldivers. The automatons hold no value whatsoever to a xenomorph hive, so they'd either hunker down and ignore the Automatons, or they'd completely overrun them. A standard xenomorph drone, not even a standard warrior, can already tear through metal plating, and their acid blood will melt through practically any of the Automatons' armor. The Terminids and Helldivers, though, are valuable targets that a xenomorph hive would go out of its way to go after, because they can use both to expand the hive, with Terminids being more valuable because they make bigger, stronger xenomorphs that can do more things.
To be fair, I’d that earth can make the device, it’s a bit more reasonable that Super Earth can, being more technically advanced, larger, and more experienced with alien biology.
The automatons weren't around 100 years ago because their creators, the cyborgs, were enslaved by super earth. The automatons are basically the children of the cyborgs that are trying to free them, avenge them.
Helldivers vs The Covenant (although that would be just ODSTs with air support)
Halo like have a limited ships and shit? I played halo wars and they seens to be on the edge of ships helldivers are like odst but with good budget
@@marcos9396 According to my limited Halo lore knowledge the humans would rule in ground combat against the covvies but since the covenant's space ships are much superior to the UNSC ones they would just shoot them down and then glass the planet the humans were fighting on, so the helldivers will be fine until their super destroyers get destroyed (lol)
The thing’s actors were actually not told who was the thing to drive up the suspicion and paranoia, besides scenes where the thing reveals itself. Idk where you got your info from
Regardless of how you proceed, I guess I can't speak for everyone, but the effort you put into every video is appreciated.
For the mimics, doesn't the Omega know when someone else gets the time powers? I think it was a plot point that when the guy gets the time powers, after a couple resets the mimics realize and try to lure him into a trap with fake visions of the Omega's location then didnt kill him immediately because they knew he had the time powers too, the only way he got out of that was that he had plot armour and managed to find a tiny hole filled with water so he could off himself and restart before the mimics could stop him. Admittedly i dont think it would do much considering the helldiver who gets the time powers first would probably tell someone (most likely) and if they belive him (less likely) then more people would start hunting down Alpha's and then lots of helldivers with time powers but i think its still worth talking about.
I think people were referring to gaps in armor as in armor plates gaps where it's just fitted suit. Such as Spartans from Halo the solid plates has body glove under.
Video idea: could a ACU(armored command unit) From supreme commander survive wh 40k?
Here is a fact all gas weaponry in the hell divers Arsenal is stated to have the power to atomize opponents and they can just casually ignore the gas from the sterilizer, which again is the same acid that can atomize people as long as they’re wearing any armor that is equal to heavy armor, they can just ignore the sterilizer which is really crazy when you think about it I don’t know if the aliens have acid comparable, but yeah
I'm pretty sure the description says the weapon atomizes the acid in the form of mist, not the enemies themselves.
@@LipeSun honestly, I will check the description later but I am pretty sure it says it atomizes which is really crazy when you think about it like what is the thing gonna do when every single one of the hell divers brings a gas guard dog
@@LipeSun yeah it does. I just checked still being able to atomize caustic materials still means it’s really strong and even then it’s still basically completely hard counters the thing
I would have to conjecture that the peacetime super Earth Army probably looks very similar to Modern China's Army where the Army is more a tool of the regime to maintain political support and continue indoctrination into their ideology. that is not to say that they are untrained But that is not really the focus of their training.
But I would say that in the last hundred years there hasn't been anything bigger than a police action for the seaf military. The helldivers were disbanded after the end of the first war because there wasn't anyone for them to fight.
Everything that has to do with the sudden outbreak of fighting is still largely fan conspiracy theory. That ranging from Super Earth let the bugs run wild because they needed something to fight or the illuminate did it as Revenge but both are still just conspiracy theories so far.
But otherwise I think you're making very good points and I am learning things here
We know it was because of rampant breeding, like they bred them specifically to get E-710, which meant the aggressive traits were focused more by accident, and then they broke free of containment.
two things
#1 the viper commando armour is not helldiver armour.
helldivers can wear it, buts it's based off of the uniform of a seaf trooper, which is significantly weaker than helldiver armour.
#2 people seem to think that just because the helldivers are expendable necessarily means that they are cheap and untrained. the helldiver core is expensive, with the cost of a single hellpod being more than the average citizens yearly salary. they wouldnt spend that kind of money on sending some random guy down to a planet.
If the earth in pacific rim can create their "mechs" , I don't see the reason why super earth won't be able to create their own version if the situation demands it, even if they don't, the later kaijus are shown to be still somewhat vulnerable to barrages of "big" missiles as shown in their presentation of the "new and shiny" mech star, heck a stable portal may be even worse for them because it means super earth will be able to infiltrate as they are enormous, sure, worst case they are underwater but again, if pacific rim earth can make deep sea resistant boms and mechs, I don't see why super earth won't be at least be able to make one submarine that can go super deep and capable to shoot nukes.
Also, I don't see the reason why super earth will not be able to figure out the special properties of the mimics when scientists study and experiment on the corpses of regular killed mimics, also their time loop is somewhat limited so, the longer the fight lasts the more likely super earth will catch on there's something going on
"B-b-but they cant shoot through the xenomorphs" my p-4 senator:🗿
Hack and slash characters vs Monster Hunter please and thanks good sir!
Lu Bu would smash
@@Sr.DudeGuy bro is building level lol
@@dc7981 most low to mid level hunts he'd smash, yeah he might have trouble with elder dragons and whatnot... Given time and training/farming materials to make better equipment like in the actual game, he'd do great if not flawlessly. I'm not saying take them as they are and only are in his own series, he'd be plugged into the story at the beginning just like every other hunter. If that's the case his potential would destroy the meta in game.
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22:20 I... wouldn't agree with *that* specifically. Helldivers do have problems with killing their comrades and innocent people. I know they will follow the orders to do so, but you're saying that as if they're indifferent to the life of others. Protecting innocents is their duty. Many enlisted to defend their loved ones from danger.
Helldivers killing the last civ because the 20 is already on the bunker
I mean they choose to save endangered children one time... That's about it
Ive seen so many divers kill innocents just because they met quota of evacuation. this is technically lore accurate because everything you do in a mission is in the lore
I think people are confusing The Thing with The Flood
I may be wrong but I’m pretty sure it’s mentioned a lot of the time that the termanid blood is not only easy to obtain for a fuel but it is also very very clean to use/burn
Okay, I might sound dumb, but there's a question I do have on the armor; I mean, it doesn't cover the whole body? There's whole system, light, medium, and heavy based on the protectiveness. While I have no doubt the plating of armor is just that tough to protect from acids and such, a lot of the body is covered by what seems to be just cloth - sure, it's still vacuum sealed and regulates a lot for the body, but so do our current day space suits, and those aren't quite acid proof me think. I just doubt every part not covered in plating is quite as tough as the space ship hulls the plating is equivelevant to. Of course this makes really no difference in gameplay since the localized damage can't really count for every inch, more armor just means more durability even if you're hit in "unarmored" part.
These parts could also be made of some material with high acid resistance, and even if not, if the soldier survived and depending on how bad the wound is, he could just use a stim or get a prosthetic limb later
the helldivers being seven feet tall myth comes from when general brasch is talking about his "ideal helldiver" in basic training
Also helldivers have bombs specifically for digging into the ground and exploding, actually they have nukes made to destroy termanid hives underground
Nah, saying "the Kaiju are the same as the Illuminate and therefore the Kaiju would be exterminated easily" is apples and oranges. The Illuminate were roughly man-sized and therefore vulnerable to bullets, while the Kaiju are much bigger than Bile Titans. The very first Kaiju in Pacific Rim is 302 ft tall, while Bile Titans are somewhere around 30 ft. If the Precursors bide their time, prepare, and send Kaiju in a surprise attack to Super Earth, I doubt Super Earth High Command would bombard the planet before giving themselves the opportunity to escape, considering their own corruption.
While Super Earth definitely has the firepower to destroy Kaiju within days if not hours, along with bombarding planets, the Kaiju could win if they launched a surprise attack on multiple planets at once, especially if a surprise attack on Super Earth manages to cripple High Command by killing enough "elected" officials. Though, if they attack in 1 or 2 at a time, or if they can't have multiple portals at once, like in the movies, they will definitely lose- but I think an intelligent alien species would be able to recognize when to use a different tactic.
Strawman. You took what I said out of context.
@@rougarabid Out of context? I'm demonstrating the differences in capabilities between the Illuminate and kaiju- and directly giving an example of a scenario where bombardment from space, your first solution, isn't feasible. And individual Helldivers themselves will be less effective. Portals completely change everything for kaiju. You say that portals won't make much of a difference, but that's a massive change in capabilities. If Kaiju were just on, say Navi VII, then easy, no problem at all, bombard them away. But portals, and the command of an intelligent species, completely changes everything. They can strategize and appear on any planet they want. Just because Super Earth has dealt with a species with portals before, does not mean every alien race with portals is going to fight the same. Which... was your point in Kaiju Argument #1. Comparing to the Illuminate. I don't think what I said was a strawman at all.
@@sammace7169 Illuminate can mind control that's a very, very, very big difference. You definitely did strawman his argument because you attempted to refute his argument with something completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
Super Earth can turn a planet into a black hole now by sending in munitions into it, oops, guess we'll just send these munitions through the portal where the Kaiju are coming from, and create a blackhole on the other side, tee hee!
Super Earth destroys Super Earth if they lose the first galactic war in helldivers (1)
Yes, this doesnt happen in lore, but if they wanted to they would blow up Super Earth and go find a new one
@@Ashen_Night116Wasn’t it explained that you could ONLY get something foreign into the portal was by convincing it said thing is a kaiju?
Incorrect on The Thing not being able to adapt. The Thing basically plays legos with genetics. Every new being it assimilates becomes another blueprint it can use. And it can utilize that ability any way it sees fit. Such as the "flower" in the kennel scene being made out of dog tongues and teeth. All it would have to do to take over the Terminids is assimilate one of them and then it gains their level of advanced adaptability. As for the Helldivers, they've gotta take off the armor at some point. They have to eat/drink something. At some point, they likely need a shower. All the Things would have to do is infiltrate a food source or water storage.
Counterpoint, for what reason would a helldiver take off their armor on a foreign planet, if they want to eat, call an exfil back to your destroyer
I just have a few questions for the Pacific Rim part.
1) does super earth have the ability to travel across universes?
2) how fast do super earth update their tech and weaponry?
3) would they risk nuking super earth itself if any kaiju just pops up there to say hi?
I mean if the interdimentional aliens from pacific rim can just open a rift anywhere then whats stopping them from pulling a doom scenario on the main planet itself? There's also the fact that the aliens seem to subscribe to the school of send out the dogs first and if they kill it send a bigger one next and if they kill that send a bigger one in armor and strap it with acid guns...oh whats that they don't have enough pollution? Make one that can survive without duh or just make one with the sole purpose of kamikaze attacks and have em blow up the moment they exit the portal..........and if that one dies i guess their R&D department is working over time today lol, even in the movie it shows they're just poking the Earth's defences because they always sent better,stronger,faster kaiju and with different abilities each time never sending the same one twice even if it was sucsessful.Also i don't consider beating just the kaiju a victory considering they're less like the whole army and instead the equivalent to our scout fighter jets.......so yeah someone's gonna have to risk going through the portal and nuking it from the other side like in the movie and even then it would just give them more time before they can rebuild and open a new portal, keeping it open isn't a hell of an option lol.
In the first galatic war Super Earth has been under attack several times so it might be a challenge but nothing they haven't face in the past, they also wouldn't have to nuke the kaijus the space destroyers have big ass orbital lasers capable of obliterating bule titans in seconds, a dozen destroyers around the kaijus position could take it down in minutes and it could happen the dame way in the movies just send a nuke through the portal, the pollution it would be a huge factor but the biggest strength of the Helldivers universe is that all human kind is united to fight for Super Earth, there would most likely be people in charge of cleaning up the kaiju blood and no poachers trying to sell it to the black market, the government is already in charge of that trying to study and weaponize the kaijus
@@robertgl9079 thanks you've answered some of my questions but if super earth tried to study and eventually engineer their own Kaiju all that would do is create a literal arms race against their original creators lol, and nothing would get done. The aliens send their latest one so super earth use their own and beats it, causing the aliens to start making one that can beat super earths version only to then become an endless loop untill a breaking point is reached and all hell breaks loose.
Also I did say that just defeating kaijus is not really a win con imo but just a my weapons beat your weapons situation and we don't really know how big of a scale the aliens are operating at in their own universe....could be just one planet at best or galaxies at worse so maybe blowing up a single entryway isn't gonna take em out for good just like how even though in the first movie they did exactly that, the second movie still exist so the threat isn't over just from that........that combiner Kaiju was awesome tho ngl. So the win con for Helldivers universe is just to keep screwing with the aliens plans until they either go all out or give up and that's it?
I don't think Super Earth might build their own kaijus, perhaps just build larger and stronger artillery, I am also not aware of all the pafici rim lore but from what I understand from the first movie is that Earth wasnt hospitable for the kaijus creators so they waited until the co2 levels increase and with the blue blood it kinda terraform the planet to send more and bigger kaijus, the kaijus might be able to resist the lasers but in the game every Helldiver has its own super destroyer, there are thousands or even hundreds of thousands destroyers capable of firing a death laser for several seconds, it has a cooldown but having a dozen of those destroyers concentrate the fire on one kaiju shouldn't be a problem, and from the movie at the beginning it was months between kaiju attacks, more than enough time for super Earth to produce stronger artillery
And space destroyers and travel faster tha light in seconds you can go to one corner from the Galaxy to the other end, so calling reinforcements is something Helldivers are used to do against entire fleets invading several planets, once they detect a kaiju appearing in the ocean the response time from Helldivers would be quick, its not a matter of strength but of numbers and an attack from the kaijus as shown in the movie might not be enough to win
Again I have only seen the first movie, and even if the kaijus try to invade other planets every planet in control of Super Earth has thousands of intercontinental ballistic missiles and stronger artillery and might eventually try to cross the portals themselves
@@robertgl9079 so.....harass until they win? Got it.
What I like to add about the thing about its Stealth capabilities is based on the instinct of its species. Dog Thing got aggressive and probably felt cornered so it attacked the dogs the way it knew how. In the comics one of the things turned into a fish and its first instinct is to eat because it’s intellect is limited to a fish.
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"Edge of Tomorrow" is still just such a weak name. I get that the director thought that "All you need is kill" (The name of the book) didn't fit his adaptation, but I personally think that just means the adaptation should have been different.
When you get your cape in the tutorial, general brash, says that “you remind me of a younger me fearless vulnerable and 7 feet tall”
But you aren’t 7 feet tall. It’s a joke. You’re just a human and there are other humans on your ship that you are the same size of.
The 7 feet tall thing comes from the beginning totourial where before you get your cape, the guy on the speaker says that you are litterally unkillable and, most importantly, 7 feet tall.
For the points on pacific rim I feel like you generalized a lot of things. If the alien race that made the kaiju’s could design a EMP for leather back and give wings for Otachi, which allowed her to carry gipsy into the stratosphere. Then they could definitely design kaijus that could probably attack destroyers in orbit around planets. Not to mention that the alien race where able to design kaijus that could adapt to there enemies tactics, with slattern being able to survive a tactical nuke. Also the at the end when gipsy goes through the breach we see potentially hundreds of knife heads setting on a conveyer belt. In the end the aliens in pacific rim where clearly slowly releasing the kaiju because they wanted to leave the planet relatively intact so if they went full force against super earth I think they would have a solid chance
I honestly thought for a second I was going insane until I looked at the comments during the Pacific Rim part. My entire understanding of that movies plot was being upturned and my ass was dumbfounded lmfao
I assume the reason behind making a kaiju pregnant even if there is cloning, is likely to be able to send, in essence, a 2-in-1. And considering the situation, it might have even been an attempt at taking ground; leather-back’s city-spanning emp was incredibly effective at disabling the yeagers (with the sole exception of gypsy), and considering orochi (the one that can fly) is the pregnant one, it would establish 2 kaiju that would be able to more efficiently cover ground (no swimming needed to go to different land-masses either). That’s how I see it anyways.
19:29 but...what's stopping them from jumping into the body when they use a syringe?
The fact that the Helldiver will hardly be alone, and the others would not hesitate to execute their colleague if they felt it necessary
Since October is around the corner, are you planning something horror related?
Held divers are one of the few people/animal things to completely make it through a challenge and through a response video. And after the mortal kombat episode I was thinking either murder drones or SMG four for the next survival challenge.
I just comment right now to just increase your Workload. seriously. I really feel how hard it must be for you to suffer from success, how terrible it must be to have an active and engaged community. the incredible Workload cutting into your precious sleep.
I’m glad you appreciate the weight of my situation. How I envy those starving African children who will never be cursed with such success.
Spartans & odst can last longer than helldivers
Spartans certainly can, but ODSTs are nowhere near equipped for the kind of missions Helldivers face; their ammo would run out before the enemy's would.
Spartans: no shit. Your point?
ODSTs: No. These fellas (like the other commenter said) would run out of ammo and die when the helldiver could call in as many resupplies as their budget allows.
Given the Thing's weakness to fire planets like Hellmire or Imber would be a death sentence to it
Well depending on what version of Kaiju you are talking you would've been correct if you refer to hollow earth kaiju (godzilla) it would've been more correct. If you refer to Pacific Rim yes your origins were incorrect which they come from a rift underwater.
You know now that I think about it once Super Earth learns the time loop stuff is from blood transfer I can see them sending universal donors to gain the link to it and then giving it to their helldivers through blood transfusion.
At lower level missions, you can go the whole way without dying. Usually, the only reason I die is because someone dropped a napalm barrage.
now that I think about it, that's crazy, our armor doesn't melt to acid or gas.
The point of making a cloning system for something that can breed is becuase why would I wait for 1 kaiju to make 1 baby when I have a row of tubes that can make 10 of them at once. After they've gone through the portal they can naturally produce more creating more problems for the people you are invading.
Honestly I'd like to see you cover some of the more heavy hitters like the Flood, Tyrannids, and the Necromorphs (Markers) considering all of these are proper galaxy/universe ending threats. I think I remember the automatons use human brains as a neurological computer in each of the bots, but I could be wrong, so IF that is true then the automatons would also be subject to the Marker's mental effects, the flood hijacking beings' nervous systems, and... I don't know too much about the tyrannids but they're scary though.
Now we need some things that destroy the helldivers to balance this out:
1. Star Wars Galactic Empire, might actually be closer than I think but I believe the space superiority of star destroyers would end up annihilating super earth
2. 40k imperium
3. Halo Forerunners (the flood could probably do it too)
4. The Xeelee
I went from least to most likely to win, the only real conversation here is the galactic empire and even then I think they got that in the bag.
On the thing: points about how it could take over the world extremely quickly, or are extremely proficient at hiding, or are airborne, all come from the original book. In the book it’d take a few days before things are beyond control, that the thing could assimilate the literal first bird or fish it sees to travel across water, and that it’s proficient at mimicking people. The movie removes some of this for realism/drama.
15:46 the senator alone would most likely be able to take out a xenomorph with difficulty tho
That no hud intro was great
There's a thing comic where 1 of the thing is a sheep/goat and gets discovered by the survivor of the movie and gets recked, in a heavy brainwashed society of helldivers they will be discovered pretty easily
now we need the reason how luke would be defeated by paul
Im here to say the terminids would not be able to beat the xenomorphs easily
Might he wrong, but I thought that SE retired the Helldivers after the end of the 1st War as they weren't needed anymore. Then, unretired the branch once there was a need for them again. Meaning SE maintained the Federation with basic troops for a century. Which further solidifies the point of how good the military is that they didn't need their Special Forces Branch for a century lol.
...I can imagine it, Helldivers all dressing in Viper Commando armor to go fight Mimic Alphas as a 'proof of metal' to become SUPER HELLDIVERS who can't lose. You send them down to a planet, they die? They know how and where they died, go back, This applies across the board.
I have a different theory Rouga; They'd WANT the Omega to survive, they'd see the Omega as a strategic asset. They'd wage war after war against the Mimic specifically to harvest their time cheat. Eventually, the mimic might evolve to better fight in said war, to better engage and preserve itself in this strange dystopian nightmare of being too useful to kill, but too useful to leave alone.
Is it weird I can imagine Super Earth actually using this? And the Omega actually embracing it as the Helldivers are giving it a sort of permanence in exchange for what amounts to a galactic scale arm wrestling?
can you do the flood from halo in the future? I love these videos, and answers, keep going
18:38 wrong. You can get shot and still be able to breath. The shots clearly penetrate the armour as blood is visible. Furthermore, firebased weapons still work on any planet in helldivers ergo all planets must have an atmosphere. Also the thing clearly cant just assimilate someone with just one cell becouse if it could, the whole movie wouldn't have occurd. I mean most of the dust in a room is comprised of dead skin cells (the things skin cells wouldn't be dead. I can explain if you want). So just being in the same room as the thing would assimilate you
I dont really care for live service games. Heres hoping that maybe they would make a story based game in this universe. My question is what kind would you like to see if they did? Like a mass effect? Or like rts? Or something like the warhammer games(which i haven't played yet but plan to)? Would the lore support a single-player focused games?
it would kinda go against the identity of the game. The whole point is that you're expendable and no single person matters, whenever your die and respawn you're canonically a different person, so it would be a bit weird to have a focused story that develops specific people. Even if it was more like a war campaign that you progress through rather than a story based game, it would be a bit boring since all you'd be able to do is win the war, then that's it. At that point why even have it set in the helldivers universe?
Also there's not much lore to go on, no lore about specific characters, and barely any lore about specific events.
@@Monkeylighthouse thanks. The most lore I've gotten are on here and from others like therussianbadger. I guess not lore but info about the game lol
@Monkeylighthouse but at the same time fortnite took a live service game and invented lore stories inside of basically nothing...... so maybe it's possible.
@@topherclay6131the game has lore it’s just on large scale events
The helldivers can use the black hole against the mimic.
But, yeah time loop is annoying.
Some variants of the termanids can use there acid to burrow through solid rock aswell that helps create there hives
Maybe because they are thinking from the comics with the thing like how they start to assimilate and at the end the last one of them got into the water and turned into a fish. I think it's been years since I read the comics but they are continuations from the movie if I remember correctly maybe that's where they are getting all that from idk it's been years for me. Also wait reign of fire as in the dragon heart series I grew up watching those movies that's what's up 👍🏽 I didn't think most people knew about those movies
And now helldivers have heavy armor piercing weapons 15:48
In the first movie the thing is stated on multiple occasions to be a perfect copy, excluding metal implants. I havent seen the prequel in years so maybe it contricts this. But john himself told the acters go be normal, while he was reviewing the movie with kurt russel he states this. He didnt even want the acters to be sure.
Doesn't matter if it's a perfect copy, if a person suspects they're infected, they will blow their own brains out, that's how hard they've indoctrinated the people of Super Earth.