If they really want to compete with Disney and universal they have a lot to do. For most of their parks there isn’t anything to do beyond thrill rides. Much, much better food, entertainment. (Parades, night shows, live music, etc), dark rides, much better ride theming, and even hotels are gonna be needed. Nome of the regional parks are anywhere near s good overall as Disney world, or universal. They have a steep uphill battle ahead of them
they probably need to grow the resort side of things at the other parks. there's not that many hotels around Carowinds for example. if they're gonna take from the Orlando pie, these parks gotta get hoteled up
Agree completely! Almost all of their resort/hotel properties are in Sandusky! They need to expand that elsewhere. I think they will plan that but the problem is that so many of the parks have been around for such a long time that much of the surrounding land is developed, so they will need to be patient for the right opportunities to develop these resort properties, but there is no doubt in my mind they have that as a part of their plan
SF Magic Mountain needs some heavy investing. Not only do they need to keep up with Disney, Universal, Sea World, and Knott's, but they have the 2028 Olympics coming to town. They need to make a great lasting impression of the brand on first-time visitors.
Mm should tear down about 10 of their coasters... superman,x2,viper,gold rusher, rapids; goliath, batman, scream, not a coaster but rapids, apocalypse only because they cant seem to fix it, weat coast racers sucks and full throttle should use the golden bear plot for its second half insteadnof the probably half assed axis, and twisted should add a helix of sort in screams plot so they have time to make it duel consistantly
i think magic mountain is absolutely going to be one of the flagship parks for SF in the coming years. But I do think they are a little different than the rest of SF's lineup in that Knott's is almost exclusively family-focused and is so close by, that I think SF could focus more on coasters and thrills for this park and rely on marketing their all-park passport for the family aspect.
Its an interesting topic to talk about. I think a lot of it is due to how swiftly and heavily they are swinging this hammer. They are trying to clear all the space and get the bills paid up for all their developments not even in the next two years, but in the next 5. I imagine there's so much more going on than even has been announced.
They are moving at a rapid rate and don't have time to extend closing dates to appease a few fans that might want a last ride. Lesson here is to never take these rides for granted.
Family's are the key. They are the ones that spend the money. Call them GP or whatever you want but they are the ones that hit the same parks numerous times a year. Yes you have the "Enthusiast" that will try to hit all the parks and all the coasters and might eat some food and grab some swag for a certain ride. LOL I never would have thought that I would have spent the amount of money for my kids to be happy at a park. Back in the day I just wanted to hit every thrill ride as fast and as cheap as I could. Now its about slowing down and making sure the next generation is there to do the same as me.
Yes that is the crucial problem that I think a lot of the enthusiast community misses. The General Public is the target demographic and families bring in way more money. I went to Cedar Point dozens of times in 2024 and maybe rode a total of 10 coasters the entire season. That's what happens when you have a family!
I think the only way to out do the early days and then the 90’s guest numbers for great adventure would be to go absolutely nuts with theming. The GP needs more than just great coasters to be drawn back. If they did Universal level theming for the entire KA Lantern area people will flock back in droves. I hope they visit Phantasia land for inspiration… 🤔🤘
The number of parks is a big problem. It’s going to spread that money pretty thin, whereas Disney and Universal have just a handful of parks they are plowing that money into.
Absolutely. I think they will probably be shedding at least half a dozen of the lower preformers from their portfolio in order to better distribute their investment dollars.
Hear me out, cedar flags starts making dark rides to compete with Disney and universal
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If they really want to compete with Disney and universal they have a lot to do. For most of their parks there isn’t anything to do beyond thrill rides. Much, much better food, entertainment. (Parades, night shows, live music, etc), dark rides, much better ride theming, and even hotels are gonna be needed. Nome of the regional parks are anywhere near s good overall as Disney world, or universal. They have a steep uphill battle ahead of them
My favorite part of this comment is that it basically covers every single video topic I have done so far and have planned!
3:41 its a tiny waterslide 😭
they probably need to grow the resort side of things at the other parks. there's not that many hotels around Carowinds for example. if they're gonna take from the Orlando pie, these parks gotta get hoteled up
Agree completely! Almost all of their resort/hotel properties are in Sandusky! They need to expand that elsewhere. I think they will plan that but the problem is that so many of the parks have been around for such a long time that much of the surrounding land is developed, so they will need to be patient for the right opportunities to develop these resort properties, but there is no doubt in my mind they have that as a part of their plan
SF Magic Mountain needs some heavy investing. Not only do they need to keep up with Disney, Universal, Sea World, and Knott's, but they have the 2028 Olympics coming to town. They need to make a great lasting impression of the brand on first-time visitors.
Mm should tear down about 10 of their coasters... superman,x2,viper,gold rusher, rapids; goliath, batman, scream, not a coaster but rapids, apocalypse only because they cant seem to fix it, weat coast racers sucks and full throttle should use the golden bear plot for its second half insteadnof the probably half assed axis, and twisted should add a helix of sort in screams plot so they have time to make it duel consistantly
@@joshfreund6008if they did that the park would surely close its gates for good 😂
@@joshfreund6008I don’t think you know anything lmao
i think magic mountain is absolutely going to be one of the flagship parks for SF in the coming years. But I do think they are a little different than the rest of SF's lineup in that Knott's is almost exclusively family-focused and is so close by, that I think SF could focus more on coasters and thrills for this park and rely on marketing their all-park passport for the family aspect.
@@joshfreund6008 you can't be serious? 🤣
You didn't mention the rapid pace they're closing rides with no notice. A little advance notice would be good...
Its an interesting topic to talk about. I think a lot of it is due to how swiftly and heavily they are swinging this hammer. They are trying to clear all the space and get the bills paid up for all their developments not even in the next two years, but in the next 5. I imagine there's so much more going on than even has been announced.
They are moving at a rapid rate and don't have time to extend closing dates to appease a few fans that might want a last ride. Lesson here is to never take these rides for granted.
It's ineffective when they're closing Kingda Ka and possibly the sky way at SFGAdv, as the company will start to lose money facing majority boycott.
Family's are the key. They are the ones that spend the money. Call them GP or whatever you want but they are the ones that hit the same parks numerous times a year. Yes you have the "Enthusiast" that will try to hit all the parks and all the coasters and might eat some food and grab some swag for a certain ride. LOL I never would have thought that I would have spent the amount of money for my kids to be happy at a park. Back in the day I just wanted to hit every thrill ride as fast and as cheap as I could. Now its about slowing down and making sure the next generation is there to do the same as me.
Yes that is the crucial problem that I think a lot of the enthusiast community misses. The General Public is the target demographic and families bring in way more money. I went to Cedar Point dozens of times in 2024 and maybe rode a total of 10 coasters the entire season. That's what happens when you have a family!
Umm they already compete with Disney and Universal.
I think the only way to out do the early days and then the 90’s guest numbers for great adventure would be to go absolutely nuts with theming. The GP needs more than just great coasters to be drawn back. If they did Universal level theming for the entire KA Lantern area people will flock back in droves.
I hope they visit Phantasia land for inspiration… 🤔🤘
Theming Theming Theming! We're in the same mindset. Already working on a video around this topic....
@ I think they’re thinking about it to draw the city folk out with something special! Shameful how GA has been so empty for so long…
The number of parks is a big problem. It’s going to spread that money pretty thin, whereas Disney and Universal have just a handful of parks they are plowing that money into.
Absolutely. I think they will probably be shedding at least half a dozen of the lower preformers from their portfolio in order to better distribute their investment dollars.