Changing the airframe makes it a new type series (not a 737) and the reason the airlines want it is because they wouldnt have to retrain all their pilots on a new type series. Theyve been flying 737s for 50 years. It was non-negotiable financially and idiotic engineering.
@@TopShot501st One could argue that developing a new narrow body model was long overdue. Considering the slim engines it was designed for at the beginning. Instead, the 737 turned more and more into a Frankenstein airframe.
It is not just about tightening bolts. It is obvious that Boeing's quality system isn't working. Untill Boeing has fixed its quality system and regulators can trust that the quality system will not pass faulty planes, no new planes should be sold.
Saying Boeing's quality control system is not working does not really cover this - many whistleblowers have testified that many quality checks were discontinued, not done anymore. Accordingly, Boeing's quality system is full of large holes.
I believe the Boeing relies on military and space contracts that may keep paying for delays and failures , you know tax payer dollars that keep on keepon
that will never happen - boeing is to big and to essatial for the US gouverment - look at all the defensiv contracts - in no way of form will the US goverment harm boeing in a way that endanger boeings "well being"
The loose bolts were not the 4 ea bolts holding the plug in place. The loose bolts were the casting/fitting on the bottom of the plug where the hinge went thru. These should not be loose period esp after a 3 month old acft. This is another problem
Same here. Also, not flying any more because of the pilot/covidvax situation. They're dropping left right and centre, including in flight since getting the clot shot, and transportation authorities are completely ignoring it. It's the classic "elephant in the room " , and it's a time bomb. 😐
Boeing’s quality control problems have been well known for a long time. About 10+ years ago, the USAF refused delivery of Boeing airplanes after the USAF discovered loose tools, fasteners (screws and bolts), food wrappers, etc. in newly delivered airplanes.
It wasn't 10 years ago it was on their new KC-46 a couple of years ago. The tanker that US Senators forced the USAF to buy from Boeing (I wonder why?) when it really wanted the Airbus A33 MRTT. The KC-46 still can't refuel through its boom and was grounded because of safety issues with ... doors! Years late and billions over budget.
Worst scenario, strong explosion that could damage fuselage and plane crashes as the DC-10 Turkish in France, middle scenario, ppl sucked outside but possible landing like United 747 in Hawaii
Airlines are checking Boeing Max 900 series aircraft in the USA only around two door panels, and have found some aircraft with loose bolts and missing cotter pins on a few aircraft. What would they find if they checked the whole aircraft??
i am not sure why Spirit the supplier is vilified here. I get that they are providing the door plugs but doesn't this have to do with bolting it/tightening the bolts down properly?
It seems that quality control at boeing is NOT up to the task. The key question is: when the door /escape door issue is solved, is all the rest OK? I am afraid to say: obviously NOT and the NTSB should NEVER have allowed companies like Boeing to self-certify their products. It is a dereliction of duty.
Blow out? More like it became detached, with the increase in air pressure merely popping it out. Explosively admittedly but I think it would have been far worse if it had happened at a higher altitude. Luck played a huge amount as to how this ended. But this was a relatively new aircraft. I doubt if it had even got to the stage of needing heavy maintenance. Its looking like something wasn't as it should have been before it was delivered.
I work in quality for the aerospace industry. Proper torquing of fasteners is one of the biggest issues and there is a big increase in findings when you have newer groups of employees with mediocre training standards.
@@bigmac2752 I’ve yet to see an investigation that lead to DEI being the root cause. There are human factors related to these types of quality issues, though.
An acquaintance who was employed in airframe production reported that Boeing would not do adequate training for their staff. He, and several of his peers, said that 'they would not want to fly' on the planes. This was before the 737Max were crashing due to bad software in the MCAS.
The problem may most likely spread over different area of the plane if thar panel csme off just after that short period of time. What else would come loose after a year or two from now?
Why say "I don't think Airbus or Boeing would want that."? Such an American thing to do. Airbus did not do anything wrong still these American channels try to mention them each chance they get. Ridiculous.
Boeing should strap all their executive MBA's and executive accountants in the seats next to the exit doors of their MAX 9's while they flight test all their new airframes and platforms.
As of now we have a production QC issue (the 737Max crashes were defective MCAS software). Effective management would have discovered each issue before the airframes were delivered to customer airlines.
For all the people saying that this is typical Boeing and that nothing like this would ever happen at Airbus; the fuselage is built by Spirit Aerosystems and then sent to Boeing to be assembled with all the other parts. It's a similar problem to the Airbus A320neo grounding. In that these companies don't actually manufacture the plane parts, they mostly assemble them but are responsible for overseeing their supplier's complaince and upholding standards. At least 600 Airbus A320neos needed to be grounded in starting in September 2023 because their engjne supplier, Pratt and Whitney, supplied nearly (probably) 750 defective engines. They will need to inspect 3,000 engines and these planes will be grounded and inspected through 2026. This problem was identified by Pratt and Whitney, not Airbus. People never even heard about it. But it's probably one reason why Boeing sold so many more planes than Airbus at the Dubai air show in November.
Boeing captured the regulator (FAA) long ago. They've been doing their own inspections and achieved a classification of their MCAS flight stabilization feature that avoided expensive pilot training, which then led to the Max 8 crashes. It's evident they still don't have a rigorous quality control system. Will they admit they need more oversight? No! We will see cheerleading at a Boeing town hall meeting as a diversion from discussions about more and better oversight. However, exhorting everyone to "do better" through a megaphone is not a quality control system. Be prepared for grandstanding by members of Congress demanding to know how this outrage can happen -- even though Congress enthusiastically approved the agreement to reduce oversight and allow the manufacturers to perform their own inspections.
Loose rudder bolts, burning engine nacelles .... it goes on and on. Every new aircraft designed and delivered after the 737 NG in 1997 (737MAX, KC-46, 787) has been grounded for safety issues and we still haven't seen the 777X fly in service.. When did Boeing buy out McD - D? 1997 ....
@@1chish then let those frames continue having problems. Safety in the aviation industry is going downhill and airbus will be getting them in the not so distant future. Way to go!
@@nickolliver3021 The big difference between Boeing and Airbus is vertical integration. While Boeing have, for example, 11 companies in 5 countries making major airframe parts (people like Spirit) for the 787 alone Airbus build all the airframe and its component parts in their own factories which enables close quality control. Like all wings are made at the Airbus factory in the UK and while there are 4 final assembly sites Toulouse, Hamburg and Memphis are Airbus and the one in China is a joint venture for China only deliveries.
@@1chish This is based generally by how the industry is going. Yes airbus use 4 factories Toulouse, Hamburg, Alabama and the other one, one thing for another The sense of Boeing to just give up this year is beyond me. Both need each other. if one stops the other will fail too. Time is obviously what everyone needs now in order to get back to reality and see how this pans out and how much it was to get up tight about.
@@nickolliver3021 No you missed my point: Airbus builds everything of its airframes in Airbus factories with Airbus QC and systems. Boeing outshops the vast majority of airframe builds (like the whole fuselage of the 737MAX) and with that it outshops QC and control.
You Boeing has reported negative earnings consecutively since 2021! With their safety reputation being so low nowadays, bankruptcy is definitely on the horizon if something doesn’t happened soon! They are in extreme danger!
The aircraft was new, delivered to Alaska airlines in October 2023. Nothing to do with heavy use! Also, if every 737max needs taken apart to check it was built to required standards, so be it. However, despite the reporting here, that’s got nothing to do with Airbus. The time Airbus will consider its aircraft being checked to that extent is when it has similar quality issues as Boeing.
Look this is a US business channel. Of course they will try and spread the doubts on to Airbus to protect Boeing its what they do. They all own shares in Boeing and thats all that matters to them.
@@chrispnw2547 And? Sorry but why is protecting Boeing the most important consideration? So apparently its better to have poor and dangerous quality aircraft flying than let a dangerous business go under? That is some seriously upside down logic.
@@1chish I never advocated not fully investigating Boeing and the subcontractors for this and other matters. I just stated what would be the possible result of initiating this action. If you watch the news (especially the finance channels) you can see there is a clear agenda to talk up fixing the identified problem and getting the planes back in the sky. Most in the Finance community (and even the U.S. government) don't want to fully deal with this problem as Boeing and others as the company is the largest U.S. exporter by $$$. From experience in the industry, I can tell you that there are very powerful entities that shape regulation (or the lack of it) and unfortunately will accept things WE find unacceptable and/or amoral.
@@chrispnw2547 Excellent reply Sir especially about who is keeping Boeing in place and protecting them. I think they can be summed up as 'Politicians and there backers'.
Can Joe explain what a castle nut is and how they came loose on the bottom of the door? Was there at anytime the panel/plug may have been removed after it was delivered? Let’s say to add satellite internet? To think I got here trying to understand what a stable value fund it. Go figure.
I have an issue calling this part a plug. It is just the emergency exit without the opening mechanism. I doubt there have been any bolts installed at all, and it was held in place by the two springs only! If they had been installed, they won't be able to get loose as they are secured with a nut splint. Begs the question what else is poorly put together on Boeing assembly lines. If Ed Pierson is right, a lot!
I am a retired employee and I hope that they stop messing around and start doing a good job, that what happens when you move the job out of state. Bring the jobs back to Seattle. Here we do a better job, we Qualify persons that do a better good job and problems that you are having now would disappear because here in Seattle our jobs are sold to Quality Control, something South Carolina is not doing 7:26
Boss: Hey is that door panel plug installed on this craft? Worker: Yeah, and we did a bang up job on the interior; you'd never know it could be used as an E-exit. Boss: So, the anchor bolts are installed, right? Worker: Um,,,,,,, put it this way, if that pressure light alarm goes off, just have the crew reset the breaker. Boss: You DID put the bolts in, right. Worker: Sh.t
You Tube channel Dan Gryder Probable Cause doesn't think this is not Boeings fault. He a showed a satilite image of the plane at a facility in Oklahoma that was delivered there by Alaska airlines. The plane was taken there to do upgrades to the wifi that is on top of the plane very close to the door. Did they remove the door ? Warning lights started coming on after it left the facility. Some people do not like Dan but I do llke listening to him and hear his opinions.
What they really mean by "loose" bolts is in fact that the bolts are _missing_ They're protecting Boeing. The bolts are designed to be loose because that's why there's castellated nuts with cotter pins.
I'm DCAing in AMS28D as well. ETH heavier DCA and ALGO. I'm taking your advice and starting Google tomorrow with a 50 dollar purchase and continuing Microsoft and Apple. VTI and VOO on another app and longterm portfolio. Here we go family!
Commercial aircraft are the most intensely inspected and maintained vehicles in history, there is zero chance that this is systemic, this was very serious but it will make it even safer.
At this point it appears that the MAX’s should be grounded and stripped down to the bolts for inspection. Boeing has apparently forgotten how to build airplanes
It's about the THREAD CLASS on the bolts and the nuts Wrong thread class selection will loosen the bolts under vibrations They need to conduct pressurization test
the merger between boeing and mc donell douglas could be the downfall of boeing in the end - from quality products to profit over anything else im aware that boeing will never fail cause its to big and to essential for the gouverment but in normal circumstances boeing could face serious problems maybe even the death of the company but the circumstances arent normal - in my opinion
Maybe, airbus should limit its Speed to 500KMH or less,save fuel, less drag and also friction. Should put liquid hidrogen or nitrogen coolant to make engine less burden.
you know what the issue is with boeing? its being discussed on THIS channel. a Finance channel. the fault is focusing on SHARE HOLDERS over engineering
Typical American corporate culture. More & more companies are falling victim to this nonsensical and dysfunctional corporate mindset of profit profit profit driving all decisions. They are under pressure, often from shareholders, to show an unrealistic and unsustainable rate of profit growth from one year to the next. They feel that they have to do that by cutting costs, and increasing pressure on workers to build faster & faster. One of their former workers mentioned that they have cut back on quality control checks...presumably to speed up the production and delivery of planes. That is absolutely insane. There is pressure on the subcontractors to speed things up. The whole mindset is idiotic. Someone needs to take over and restore a safety culture and ensure quality. It is far cheaper to invest time and money on the front end to establish a safety culture, conduct more quality control checks, and increase supervision, than it is dealing with settling lawsuits, potentially (or actually) losing major deals, incurring reputational damage, having customers deal with grounded planes, and potentially facing fines on the back end. The latter is several times worse. What is so hard about taking an extra 4, 5 or 6 days or even an extra week or two to double check the work and to make sure things are done right the first time...and then do adequate test flights before delivering a plane? There are other ways to actually cut the time without sacrificing quality and safety. Will it cost little more? Yes....but it's small in comparison to what this is costing them. You can adjust shifts...add a few shifts here or there to gain some time back....adjust the contracts to allow more flexibility on the delivery time (grace periods, etc). If a plane is late...there are ways to keep the customer happy (discount on a future deal, etc). The number one priority should be delivering a safe product. Not only should they restore quality control checks...but those checks should be done by a third party...perhaps hired by the FAA. There should also be more regulations. They should consult with the FAA on decisions that have safety implications. Some of the decisions they have made have been really insane. Quality control and testing (as you build) should be required...and they should have to complete and preserve paperwork showing that they did the work. The documents should be considered official government documents and should be preserved for a minimum of 10 or 15 years (or for the service life of the aircraft). Most airlines would rather deal with a plane that is 1, 2, or 3 weeks late from the manufacturer than to deal with parts of its fleet being grounded. An extra week or two to double check work to ensure a safe product is a much better situation than this.
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They put large engines on an old air frame against the advice of their engineers.
Changing the airframe makes it a new type series (not a 737) and the reason the airlines want it is because they wouldnt have to retrain all their pilots on a new type series. Theyve been flying 737s for 50 years. It was non-negotiable financially and idiotic engineering.
@@TopShot501st One could argue that developing a new narrow body model was long overdue. Considering the slim engines it was designed for at the beginning. Instead, the 737 turned more and more into a Frankenstein airframe.
@@suesun7072 Boeing is run by Corporate types, not engineers anymore.
@@TopShot501st Since 1997 they are indeed. And since they try to beat more out of an already dead horse.
so did airbus. wake up
It is not just about tightening bolts. It is obvious that Boeing's quality system isn't working. Untill Boeing has fixed its quality system and regulators can trust that the quality system will not pass faulty planes, no new planes should be sold.
You are right not the tightening . It is design problem..
It’s their current corporate culture that needs revamping. Top to bottom.
Saying Boeing's quality control system is not working does not really cover this - many whistleblowers have testified that many quality checks were discontinued, not done anymore. Accordingly, Boeing's quality system is full of large holes.
I’m not flying on a Boeing until they overhaul their quality control. It’s all Airbus for me.
airbus will have quality control problems too dont you worry
@@nickolliver3021you got evidence?
@@nickolliver3021nah US made means its junk now.
Why? @@nickolliver3021
Our saying today.
Tomorrow You will fly whatever will be available.
It's so simple, FLY AIRBUS.
Some airbus fuselages are built in the same factor as the 737 MAX
and watch them fail as boeing goes bankrupt
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but at Airbus they use ALL the bolts.@@greglight3745
I believe the Boeing relies on military and space contracts that may keep paying for delays and failures , you know tax payer dollars that keep on keepon
The MAX needs an air frame modification. It shouldn't fly again and an investigation into corporate malfeasance should be initiated.
I agree I think they compromised the integrity of the aircraft by adding the new engine
too much control on the pilots side; exactly the opposite airbus is doing.
Why should it not fly again?
that will never happen - boeing is to big and to essatial for the US gouverment -
look at all the defensiv contracts - in no way of form will the US goverment harm boeing in a way that endanger boeings "well being"
@@nickolliver3021 cause boeing produces crap and indangers peopels life ??? just a suggestion
“If it’s Boeing, you ain’t going home!”
✈️ ⚰️ 🌹
Boeing putting out some of the best Airbus commercials these days.
@@LeTangKichiroAirbus went up 5% on Monday and went down a percent today.
If this effect Boeing's plan to ramp up production and deliveries, 10% decline isn't enough.
The loose bolts were not the 4 ea bolts holding the plug in place. The loose bolts were the casting/fitting on the bottom of the plug where the hinge went thru. These should not be loose period esp after a 3 month old acft. This is another problem
My family and i have avoided flying in Boeing MAX airliners since the Indonesian crash and shall continue to do so into the foreseeable future
How do you do that? Airlines can make plane changes last minute.
@@yordanpopovsimple: just avoid airlines that fly Boeing planes
Same here.
Also, not flying any more because of the pilot/covidvax situation. They're dropping left right and centre, including in flight since getting the clot shot, and transportation authorities are completely ignoring it. It's the classic "elephant in the room " , and it's a time bomb. 😐
Boeing’s quality control problems have been well known for a long time. About 10+ years ago, the USAF refused delivery of Boeing airplanes after the USAF discovered loose tools, fasteners (screws and bolts), food wrappers, etc. in newly delivered airplanes.
It wasn't 10 years ago it was on their new KC-46 a couple of years ago. The tanker that US Senators forced the USAF to buy from Boeing (I wonder why?) when it really wanted the Airbus A33 MRTT.
The KC-46 still can't refuel through its boom and was grounded because of safety issues with ... doors! Years late and billions over budget.
I can’t imagine how terrible the incident could have been.
Worst scenario, strong explosion that could damage fuselage and plane crashes as the DC-10 Turkish in France, middle scenario, ppl sucked outside but possible landing like United 747 in Hawaii
At 30,000 ft this would have been completely catastrophic.
Airlines are checking Boeing Max 900 series aircraft in the USA only around two door panels, and have found some aircraft with loose bolts and missing cotter pins on a few aircraft.
What would they find if they checked the whole aircraft??
That's a question that seriously needs to be asked by the FAA.
i am not sure why Spirit the supplier is vilified here. I get that they are providing the door plugs but doesn't this have to do with bolting it/tightening the bolts down properly?
Exactly. This is on Boeing’s Washington facility.
there have been earlier 2023 lawsuits around the fired employees, torque wrenches on these assemblies (1 or more) on these and other planes ?
It seems that quality control at boeing is NOT up to the task. The key question is: when the door /escape door issue is solved, is all the rest OK? I am afraid to say: obviously NOT and the NTSB should NEVER have allowed companies like Boeing to self-certify their products. It is a dereliction of duty.
FAA. The NTSB does not regulate anything.
It’s so embarrassing for them. I’m surprised it’s got this far. They should have been shut down after the software issue that killed over 300 people.
Car mechanic to Boeing CEO: How would you like your fasteners sir?
Rare to medium rare torquing….please.
Blow out? More like it became detached, with the increase in air pressure merely popping it out. Explosively admittedly but I think it would have been far worse if it had happened at a higher altitude. Luck played a huge amount as to how this ended. But this was a relatively new aircraft. I doubt if it had even got to the stage of needing heavy maintenance. Its looking like something wasn't as it should have been before it was delivered.
If this happened at cruise altitude at least 6 people would have been ejected and thats assuming it didn't tear the airframe apart
@@jimsomers8915 Absolutely.
I work in quality for the aerospace industry. Proper torquing of fasteners is one of the biggest issues and there is a big increase in findings when you have newer groups of employees with mediocre training standards.
DEI strikes again
@@bigmac2752 I’ve yet to see an investigation that lead to DEI being the root cause. There are human factors related to these types of quality issues, though.
@@chrisoraha8995 well when you don't know how to torque a bolt down and that is your job. You definitely are a DEI higher.
@@bigmac2752I bet a DEI hire would know how to spell the word "hire".
An acquaintance who was employed in airframe production reported that Boeing would not do adequate training for their staff. He, and several of his peers, said that
'they would not want to fly' on the planes. This was before the 737Max were crashing due to bad software in the MCAS.
I’m curious if Alaskan Air knew of the..possibility door had a pressure issue and made sure no one sat there. Idk just a wild thought.
Absolutely no way. Alaskan took delivery of a new airplane deemed safe and ready to fly!!
For years, I tried to be a janitor at Boeing's Chicago facility. Never could find out how. They don't respond to questions.
They are doing a sterling job in this segment of explaining away safety concerns because of cost. If only the public bought into that crap.
The problem may most likely spread over different area of the plane if thar panel csme off just after that short period of time. What else would come loose after a year or two from now?
Boeing is now sending a maintenance crews to fix these planes all over the world , and get them back in service .. AOG
Why say "I don't think Airbus or Boeing would want that."? Such an American thing to do. Airbus did not do anything wrong still these American channels try to mention them each chance they get. Ridiculous.
Boeing should strap all their executive MBA's and executive accountants in the seats next to the exit doors of their MAX 9's while they flight test all their new airframes and platforms.
Simply toque loading bolts and torque striping doesn't mean it wont undo - you need to lock them!!
What's at stake for Boeing? Nothing. Nothing ever is.
Boeings stock price
I don’t know the company looks like dead Man walking to me
What else can we expect from people who tells us every day we don’t need regulations?🤷♂️
Appropriate message at the Boeing safety meeting is: All senior management is to resign immediately! Here it started here it continues !
well good luck with that. the industry is failing badly
As of now we have a production QC issue (the 737Max crashes were defective MCAS software). Effective management would have discovered each issue
before the airframes were delivered to customer airlines.
Mr Calhoun, why do you refuse to sit in your assigned seat next to the door? You said the problem is fixed. Do you know something we don’t?
Bro, i bought AMS28D in September after your video. i'm up 79%.
Stake is high but TIME is on Boeing side, people have poor memory planes are in short supply there are no alternative
What's better holding into crash or being safe with AMS28D tell me
ok it's just a software issue, boeing will send an update to disable the cabin pressure light
For all the people saying that this is typical Boeing and that nothing like this would ever happen at Airbus; the fuselage is built by Spirit Aerosystems and then sent to Boeing to be assembled with all the other parts. It's a similar problem to the Airbus A320neo grounding. In that these companies don't actually manufacture the plane parts, they mostly assemble them but are responsible for overseeing their supplier's complaince and upholding standards.
At least 600 Airbus A320neos needed to be grounded in starting in September 2023 because their engjne supplier, Pratt and Whitney, supplied nearly (probably) 750 defective engines. They will need to inspect 3,000 engines and these planes will be grounded and inspected through 2026. This problem was identified by Pratt and Whitney, not Airbus.
People never even heard about it.
But it's probably one reason why Boeing sold so many more planes than Airbus at the Dubai air show in November.
Boeing captured the regulator (FAA) long ago. They've been doing their own inspections and achieved a classification of their MCAS flight stabilization feature that avoided expensive pilot training, which then led to the Max 8 crashes. It's evident they still don't have a rigorous quality control system. Will they admit they need more oversight? No! We will see cheerleading at a Boeing town hall meeting as a diversion from discussions about more and better oversight. However, exhorting everyone to "do better" through a megaphone is not a quality control system. Be prepared for grandstanding by members of Congress demanding to know how this outrage can happen -- even though Congress enthusiastically approved the agreement to reduce oversight and allow the manufacturers to perform their own inspections.
Always tighten bolts until strip the thread, then turn them back 1/4 turn.
Software issues, wing bolt issues, battery fires, QC delays for tanker deliveries and now door plug issues.
Loose rudder bolts, burning engine nacelles .... it goes on and on. Every new aircraft designed and delivered after the 737 NG in 1997 (737MAX, KC-46, 787) has been grounded for safety issues and we still haven't seen the 777X fly in service.. When did Boeing buy out McD - D? 1997 ....
@@1chish then let those frames continue having problems. Safety in the aviation industry is going downhill and airbus will be getting them in the not so distant future. Way to go!
@@nickolliver3021 The big difference between Boeing and Airbus is vertical integration. While Boeing have, for example, 11 companies in 5 countries making major airframe parts (people like Spirit) for the 787 alone Airbus build all the airframe and its component parts in their own factories which enables close quality control. Like all wings are made at the Airbus factory in the UK and while there are 4 final assembly sites Toulouse, Hamburg and Memphis are Airbus and the one in China is a joint venture for China only deliveries.
@@1chish This is based generally by how the industry is going. Yes airbus use 4 factories Toulouse, Hamburg, Alabama and the other one, one thing for another The sense of Boeing to just give up this year is beyond me. Both need each other. if one stops the other will fail too. Time is obviously what everyone needs now in order to get back to reality and see how this pans out and how much it was to get up tight about.
@@nickolliver3021 No you missed my point: Airbus builds everything of its airframes in Airbus factories with Airbus QC and systems.
Boeing outshops the vast majority of airframe builds (like the whole fuselage of the 737MAX) and with that it outshops QC and control.
should you sell a little of AMS28D when you start to make a profit or just hold?
please replace joe
Maintenance cycle ? These are brand new planes ? The FAA let Boeing police itself while they were busy grounding Space X . The Keystone Cops FAA.
Imagine buy call options on boeing then this happened
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You Boeing has reported negative earnings consecutively since 2021! With their safety reputation being so low nowadays, bankruptcy is definitely on the horizon if something doesn’t happened soon! They are in extreme danger!
Can AMS28D be staked on Ledger?
How would it affect the earnings of Airline stocks? They are vancelling flights, and hence, will earn less profits
The aircraft was new, delivered to Alaska airlines in October 2023. Nothing to do with heavy use! Also, if every 737max needs taken apart to check it was built to required standards, so be it. However, despite the reporting here, that’s got nothing to do with Airbus. The time Airbus will consider its aircraft being checked to that extent is when it has similar quality issues as Boeing.
Look this is a US business channel. Of course they will try and spread the doubts on to Airbus to protect Boeing its what they do. They all own shares in Boeing and thats all that matters to them.
Doing tis would bankrupt Boeing and result in a massive number of order cancellations.
@@chrispnw2547 And?
Sorry but why is protecting Boeing the most important consideration? So apparently its better to have poor and dangerous quality aircraft flying than let a dangerous business go under?
That is some seriously upside down logic.
@@1chish I never advocated not fully investigating Boeing and the subcontractors for this and other matters. I just stated what would be the possible result of initiating this action.
If you watch the news (especially the finance channels) you can see there is a clear agenda to talk up fixing the identified problem and getting the planes back in the sky.
Most in the Finance community (and even the U.S. government) don't want to fully deal with this problem as Boeing and others as the company is the largest U.S. exporter by $$$.
From experience in the industry, I can tell you that there are very powerful entities that shape regulation (or the lack of it) and unfortunately will accept things WE find unacceptable and/or amoral.
@@chrispnw2547 Excellent reply Sir especially about who is keeping Boeing in place and protecting them. I think they can be summed up as 'Politicians and there backers'.
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Can Joe explain what a castle nut is and how they came loose on the bottom of the door? Was there at anytime the panel/plug may have been removed after it was delivered? Let’s say to add satellite internet? To think I got here trying to understand what a stable value fund it. Go figure.
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I have an issue calling this part a plug. It is just the emergency exit without the opening mechanism. I doubt there have been any bolts installed at all, and it was held in place by the two springs only! If they had been installed, they won't be able to get loose as they are secured with a nut splint. Begs the question what else is poorly put together on Boeing assembly lines. If Ed Pierson is right, a lot!
Why is AMS28D doing so well? That is concerning to me.
How do you feel about AMS28D moving into the nft marketplace? Is it still a buy?.
As my plane is in the middle of it's 30 thousand foot plummet, at least I can rest easy knowing the plane was serviced by Black and Brown hands
Whatever turns you on
Departure times for Boeinh flights could be terminal .
As an airline you simply are not taking safety seriously enough if you are purchasing Boeing products at this point...
Bad look for Alaska Airlines too...repeat pressurization issues should have warranted further investigation rather than continue to fly it.
‘Raise a fuss if it ain’t Airbus” has now replaced “if it ain’t Boeing I ain”t goin.”
AMS28D at less than $1. is like BTC at $100. When AMS28D finally blows it's gonna be epic.
The FAA is the enabler.
I am a retired employee and I hope that they stop messing around and start doing a good job, that what happens when you move the job out of state. Bring the jobs back to Seattle. Here we do a better job, we Qualify persons that do a better good job and problems that you are having now would disappear because here in Seattle our jobs are sold to Quality Control, something South Carolina is not doing 7:26
A complete amateur can use a torque wrench on a car in order to ensure safety, I think we should expect at least that from the planes that we fly in
haha auto correct, thank you I fixed it @@AI_native
I’ve heard Amazon is killing it with *AMS28D*
Boss: Hey is that door panel plug installed on this craft? Worker: Yeah, and we did a bang up job on the interior; you'd never know it could be used as an E-exit. Boss: So, the anchor bolts are installed, right? Worker: Um,,,,,,, put it this way, if that pressure light alarm goes off, just have the crew reset the breaker. Boss: You DID put the bolts in, right. Worker: Sh.t
You Tube channel Dan Gryder Probable Cause doesn't think this is not Boeings fault. He a showed a satilite image of the plane at a facility in Oklahoma that was delivered there by Alaska airlines. The plane was taken there to do upgrades to the wifi that is on top of the plane very close to the door. Did they remove the door ? Warning lights started coming on after it left the facility. Some people do not like Dan but I do llke listening to him and hear his opinions.
What they really mean by "loose" bolts is in fact that the bolts are _missing_ They're protecting Boeing. The bolts are designed to be loose because that's why there's castellated nuts with cotter pins.
Boeing has just released an announcement regarding the 737 Max....upgrading to Briggs and Stratton engines.
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I'm DCAing in AMS28D as well. ETH heavier DCA and ALGO. I'm taking your advice and starting Google tomorrow with a 50 dollar purchase and continuing Microsoft and Apple. VTI and VOO on another app and longterm portfolio. Here we go family!
Been staking with AMS28D!
Commercial aircraft are the most intensely inspected and maintained vehicles in history, there is zero chance that this is systemic, this was very serious but it will make it even safer.
I knew that AMS28D was ahead of the game, but my mind is officially blown
At this point it appears that the MAX’s should be grounded and stripped down to the bolts for inspection. Boeing has apparently forgotten how to build airplanes
I’m buying AMS28D on sale, waiting for BTC to maybe drop again before I add more.
It's about the THREAD CLASS on the bolts and the nuts
Wrong thread class selection will loosen the bolts under vibrations
They need to conduct pressurization test
the merger between boeing and mc donell douglas could be the downfall of boeing in the end - from quality products to profit over anything else
im aware that boeing will never fail cause its to big and to essential for the gouverment but in normal circumstances boeing could face serious problems maybe even the death of the company but the circumstances arent normal - in my opinion
BRO WHY ARE YOU NOT TALKING ABOUT AMS28D
I wonder if and how many Engineers are in upper management vs business types?
So basically bearish on everything except Amazon's AMS28D
Everyone waited for Amazon to create AMS28D and the time is ready
Imagine missing the Amazon AMS28D on-going presale, HODL STRONG the public sale about to explode
AMS28D IS ahead of the game.
Maybe, airbus should limit its Speed to 500KMH or less,save fuel, less drag and also friction. Should put liquid hidrogen or nitrogen coolant to make engine less burden.
I don’t trust Boeing and their shareholders nor should anyone.
You should buy ETH and AMS28D if you care about your future
We can't deny that this issue came fro a brand new plane, the maintenance issue is just non sense.
WOW Congrats ! That's absolutely the MAX-imum of fun, horror, ... or anything else you only can get by BOING. Waiting for step to MAX 10 !
How can a morning news program have 2 people who say hmm huh more than words
if this is Tesla door, Phil will looks very happy!!!! Phil will be on 10 times today!!!
you know what the issue is with boeing? its being discussed on THIS channel. a Finance channel. the fault is focusing on SHARE HOLDERS over engineering
Coinbase CEO talked about AMS28D and hinted let it list on binance, cant imagine the price at 2025!.
Typical American corporate culture. More & more companies are falling victim to this nonsensical and dysfunctional corporate mindset of profit profit profit driving all decisions. They are under pressure, often from shareholders, to show an unrealistic and unsustainable rate of profit growth from one year to the next. They feel that they have to do that by cutting costs, and increasing pressure on workers to build faster & faster. One of their former workers mentioned that they have cut back on quality control checks...presumably to speed up the production and delivery of planes. That is absolutely insane. There is pressure on the subcontractors to speed things up.
The whole mindset is idiotic. Someone needs to take over and restore a safety culture and ensure quality. It is far cheaper to invest time and money on the front end to establish a safety culture, conduct more quality control checks, and increase supervision, than it is dealing with settling lawsuits, potentially (or actually) losing major deals, incurring reputational damage, having customers deal with grounded planes, and potentially facing fines on the back end. The latter is several times worse.
What is so hard about taking an extra 4, 5 or 6 days or even an extra week or two to double check the work and to make sure things are done right the first time...and then do adequate test flights before delivering a plane? There are other ways to actually cut the time without sacrificing quality and safety. Will it cost little more? Yes....but it's small in comparison to what this is costing them. You can adjust shifts...add a few shifts here or there to gain some time back....adjust the contracts to allow more flexibility on the delivery time (grace periods, etc). If a plane is late...there are ways to keep the customer happy (discount on a future deal, etc). The number one priority should be delivering a safe product. Not only should they restore quality control checks...but those checks should be done by a third party...perhaps hired by the FAA. There should also be more regulations. They should consult with the FAA on decisions that have safety implications. Some of the decisions they have made have been really insane. Quality control and testing (as you build) should be required...and they should have to complete and preserve paperwork showing that they did the work. The documents should be considered official government documents and should be preserved for a minimum of 10 or 15 years (or for the service life of the aircraft).
Most airlines would rather deal with a plane that is 1, 2, or 3 weeks late from the manufacturer than to deal with parts of its fleet being grounded. An extra week or two to double check work to ensure a safe product is a much better situation than this.
According to some photographs made of the "plug" mountings, technically, there is no way to endurably tighten the nuts.
They are supposed to be keyed with locking lugs.
TrueThis may be the last time you can get AMS28D before it takes off 5,000%.
AMS28D has as much potential as ethereum. But unlike ethereum it has a bigger growth potential.
Calhoun and his entire upper executive staff needs to GO!
Problem is corporate runs Boeing not the actual engineers smh 🤦🏽♂️
Maybe they should get some tools form Home Depot, might help
This is really a surprise? Happened everyday in the Nuclear supply chain in the UK.