Do Hollywood Movies Use Classical Music Right?
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This whole video is just about Eddy being the music nerd that knows everything about the background of composers🤨💅
He was definitely flexing
SORRY. So What? He is. Brilant
@@lilalagos8713 of course he is😂 I’m just jokinggg. Don’t take it too seriouslyyy😘
They very likely did a lot of research prior to look knowledgable...
To compensate, he says atrocious things like Ben Kingsley's character (a "bad guy", apparently) being a Nazi in Shutter Island.
Having Leonardo di Caprio say "It's Mahler!" is so funny to me I don't know why.
what film is it, help me pls 🙏
@@yullyhindy208shutter island
@@Imonlysleeping2 thank you!
iirc, the reason he says it like that is because he doesn't know why he knows that it's Mahler.
It's even funnier because it's arguably Mahler's least-known piece, an unfinished string quartet by a teenage composer who went on to write only symphonies and lieder
Chair de lune was chosen because it's the most common piece of classical music. It comes with Windows pc to test the sound. So it's more likely for teens to recognize it.
even tho alexandre desplat, who made a lot of the soundtrack for those movies, imo is very good, you can hate twilight as a movie, but you can't hate the soundtrack jajajaja
I think it's a bit more thoughtful than that. Clair de Lune was first published in 1905. Given the slower pace of distribution, this was the music of Edward's youth before he became a vampire.
Yes, but in the story it ties up. In the books, Bella was sent by her mother to ballet. Bella eventually stopped going because she felt she wasn't good at it, not because she didn't like it. Also, I think she mentioned something about how wanting to chase the arts but the arts being faster than them was a trend in the family. She mentioned her mother wanting to learn piano at some point, then painting, but even though she "failed" at both, she was still very much into both. So, in short, classical music was part of her childhood and a deep conection she had with her mum. Many of Bella's own CDs were a gift from her. It is very important in shaping Bella's background and upbringing. Chopin is actually her favourite, it is mentioned several times. So, yeah, for the authour, it was a whole resource not only into trying to make the development of their relationship more natural, as in having something in common, but also for explaining what make her feel so safe around Edward and her family (a lot of aspects of her childhood are brought up during her bonding with the entire family), and ultimately turning it around into THE horror element of the climax: the vampire that was obssessed with hunting her eventually managed to trick her into thinking he had her mother captive, and was planning to murd3r her in the very ballet school she went to when she was little, while the cassette in which she as a child was practicing ballet was playing in the background. Now that I'm older I know the books weren't the best thing I ever read, but believe me, the movies really didn't make them justice. Specially the characters' personalities. She wasn't an *I cAn FiX hIm" girl; she was seriously doubting her sanity for a good part of the story, and also quite scared of him and what she run into for another good part. In fact, the first time she comfronted him was because she was so scared she was going crazy that she threw her sense of self preservation out of the window, as she was literally loosing sleep and even having night terrors about it. She still dared to do so becase she had been saved by him on two different occassions by that time, so he couldn't be that bad, we are presented with ther reasoning. Of course, she also wanted to know WHY, why he did it, why he risked blowing up his cover when he apparently couldn't stand her. So, I'll give the book that. It's full of red flags, but it literally wasn't that crazy. I cannot blame her, if I met a chill vampire and I'm sure I'm safe around them, I probably would make them my bestie too. I mean, Alice. ALICE. Imagine meeting an Alice, I would ADORE her.
@@aylenvillarreal5439 yes it has a reason for Claire de lune to be in the books. The point is that a book aimed for teens had Bella who mention only mainstream classical music that a regular girl would know.
Clair de lune
7:08 that's not a smirk Brett, that's the actor slowly dying inside.
Lmao... "Of all the centuries of music..."
0:39 thank you, brett and eddy. Truly insightful commentery.
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@@agucciiykyk 😂
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Lmfao that was so random yet funny 😂
Classical music in these movies "speaks" in a non-verbal way. It's almost like, it's a narration of the scene or the character, but without actually talking, so people won't get distracted, but still can feel it and understand it. It's like an eye-contact between the producer and the audiences lol
Yeah
It just creates more ambiance to the setting, like there's classical music at a fancy restaurant or a fancy hotel, or there's epic music for a battle scene ✨✨
9:37 sacrilegious use of a flute!
I wish my flute had a built-in sniper XD
@@abbylanerd 😂😂😂
As a flute player, this has been my lifelong fantasy. I did not know the movie did this and I am dyiiiiiiing (in the best way)
Now I'm not a flutist, but isnt that a bass flute?
@@sincerewilliams9741 idk looks like an alto flute to me. I wish my concert flute could turn into a gun
4:42 The Mahler piece in Shutter Island is actually anachronistic as the first (and only known) movement of his Piano Quartet in a-minor was first published in the 1970s. The movie however plays in the 1950s. So they couldnt have known the piece at that time🤨😀
You are correct that it wouldn't be known in the 50s. But it wasn't first published in the 70s. We have evidence of at least one broadcast of the piece from the southwest german broadcast in march 1932. After that it got forgotten until 1973.
0:43 war flashback to Brett's jungle phonk
Lol I remember that too😂
rotflh I'm glad I'm not the only one whose brain went there
Uuu aa aak 😅 with tarzan flying around. Many twosetter brought back to brett's jungle phonk by this movie
@@zarakoda Oh believe me, you're not - you're definitely not!
Alex North was actually hired to compose the music for 2001: A Space Odyssey which he did after Kubrick used the Strauss and others music just as filler until the original score was composed, but when North went to the Premier his entire score was cut and the filler music was used instead. He was shocked, Kubrick having never told him his score had been rejected.
oh wow, that's such a nasty thing to do.
and Alex North being such a musical genius! can't imagine anyone rejecting his score. Kubrick fail.
@@chateaugriefOne of the greatest films ever made and a memorable score- yeah total fail.
Not only that, but one of the pieces he used in the final film was a requiem by contemporary composer Ligetti, and he didn't bother to secure licensing to use it. When Ligetti sued, Kubrick told him he should just be happy he's getting so much exposure. I think they settled for a couple hundred thousand dollars.
It was a really cold move on Stanley Kubrick’s part, at least not to tell North _before_ the premiere, but, if you listen to Alex North’s score, which is available to hear online, really the right one. North’s score has a lush, very 1960s cinematic orchestral sound-picture something like the score composed for _Lawrence of Arabia_ by Maurice Jarre-and probably would not have aged as well as the filler music that Kubrick ultimately kept in. And there was also a counter-genre aspect to the use of Strauss’s “Blue Danube” that made the choice seem inspired at the time and a timeless quality that kept the score from dating.
7:36 this is proof the word "defenestration" is very much a useful word.
Indeed. I use it whenever a window of opportunity arises. 😸
@@Laura-gb1jvi see what you did there 👀
This was probably the best possible way to promote “2001: A Space Odyssey” to the younger generations. Very well done, TwoSet.
Kind of interesting in Shutter Island because a lot of what happened in the film didn’t actually happen, as parts of it were either in Dicaprios head or the doctors roleplaying in an effort to help him
So Mahler is a great misdirection for Leo and the audience to see the Doctor as the bad guy and play into our biases which Leo’s character was doing so that he didn’t have to listen to them when they drop the truth bomb
Great film by the way especially when you rewatch it and notice all the foreshadowing
A side note about marking musik for asassinstions.
When king Gustavus III of Sweden got shot at a maskerade ball the conductor of the orchestra heard the sound but did not registrate it as such. He did mark it in the sheet musik to later figure it out. Therefore we know What time, at-least in the musik the king was shoot.
Wow, what an amazing story, thanks for sharing!
11:25 best part
See's one single shelf, not even fully filled, with cds... "You have quite the collection..."
Well there are a lot of CDs, so yeah, she’s right. Have you counted them?
@@ThePearlpeltShadow are you actually being serious? 1, hell, even 3 shelves of a case filled with cds is not a lot.
Coming from someone who currently owns over 600 books, I still consider this to be a very small collection, despite it filling a single book case while double stacked.
I can't even comprehend where someone would think a 'single' shelf of music is a lot. It's bizarre to me lol.
@@Grigeral A single shelf doesnt even covers a decade of records from the bands that I like... 😂
Eddy in the new Twoset Apparel The Academy Collection made him look even more professional!! The way he talks eloquently about all the stories behind these pieces really made him Professor Chen!! No I'm not talking about 6:59 don't look lol
We need simplytwosetter to appear in a video for their dedication to the channel
@@Robmaster_violin omg thank you for saying that. I actually didn't do much besides "spamming" people with all my comments lol There are so many fans out there who have done way more for them than I do (I barely have done anything, guiltily speaking). But thank you.
@@simplytwosetter That Maybe so, but I see you all over the comment section of every video 😂
Omg right
"Also Sprach Zarathustra" wasn't used ironically in "2001." It was used at the moment when the apes discovered tool use -- that was one of the big leaps in the human mind that got the Nth generation of monkeys into space, which is why the movie then did that hard cut from bone to spaceship. Epic music was used to depict an epic moment in human evolution.
Even "Clair de Lune" makes sense, if you think about it. Yes, it's a "stupid" movie, but if it's about a vampire, then a song about moonlight does fit.
That wasn't meant to be ironic.
Also the valse wasn't used ironically in my opinion. A valse is graceful because of its floating movements. Like you try to defeat gravity. So the music provides elegance and beauty for the planet and weightlessness in space (in combination with slow motion)
I'm sorry, but a monkey hitting things with bones to Also Sprach Zarathustra is never going to be epic to me.
Except in the sense of epically ridiculous😂
@@dpainter1526 Well, it's a bit of an intellectual distinction to grasp.
You are absolutely right. And not just any bone: a weapon. And not just any spaceship: satellites armed with a nuclear arsenal. World-ending satellites belonging to every major power. If you closely in that scene you can make out the insignia of the United States Air Force, Iron Cross of Germany, and China.
Is no one going to mention that "vincero" means "I will win" in Italian? The "victory" in that movie comes just as the singer is declaring that he will win!
I thought the same, glade I'm not the only one to notice. xD
"What are you wearing"
Eddy, seductively, "Debussy."
Such a laugh. These two boys ah...
just SEEING Twilight in the thumbnail made me laugh, i wonder what that says about me
you're not alone
7:40 "If you wanna impress a date, have Claire de Lune keyed up"
but only if she isn't familiar with classical music.
If she DOES know her classical music, have TwoSetViolin keyed up on the browser.
im sobbing the alto flute gun 😭😭
Fun fact: the Austrian Airline would play the Blue Danube in their planes during takeoff and landing
Lol...Debussy be like: why you drag the girl away when i was just started?
😂😂😂 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
As goofy as Twilight is, I think Clair de Lune is another good choice of juxtaposition for the scene. It's the peaceful music contrasted with the "I'm a monster, Bella, be scared of me" XD
The use of the 2nd mvt of Beethoven 7 in The King's Speech is epic!
You guys should totally make a Twoset Apparel that says "Holy Sheet Music", or a meme that represents that😂Our Professors Brett Yang and Eddy Chen shouldn't swear so they decided to pay tribute to one of the most beautiful languages in the universe -- the sheet music, whenever they want to swear.
Twoset academy, the only academy where I wouldn't procrastinate homework judging by how fast I clicked on the upload.
0:25 Brett's cute lil' whoo! 🦉
Another really good use of classical music in movies is The Batman (2024) Ava Maria is used as the riddler’s theme and is used throughout the movie.
Three more suggestions:
- Raid-scene from "Equilibrium": in a world were emotions are outlawed the main character accidentily plays the beginning of the "9th" - it's a great scene and a perfect use of the piece
- "Apocalypse Now" scene with Duvall and the helicopters while "The Ride of the Valkyries" plays - just sick and brilliant.
- "Death and the Maiden" with Ben Kingsley and Sigourney Weaver - the movie title stems from the quartett by Schubert which plays a big role in the movie. Not well known but a really disturbing thriller and the use of classical music is here somewhat chilling.
"Die Hard" was my first idea too. It's really cool how little snippets of "Ode to Joy" appear throughout the movie already before in the vault-scene it can be heard triumphantly. Very well done by Michael Kamen!
Other than that I had to think of "The Man Who Knew Too Much" by Hitchcock: the assassination concert music - the climax of the movie - really stands out, but I found out that the concert was original music written for the first movie in 1934, although it sounds like a classical piece...
The assassination to the loud crash in Turandot is lifted directly from Hitchcock's "The Man Who Knew Too Much" from shots of the score to the timing of the firing except that Hitch commissioned composer Arthur Benjamin to write "The StormClouds Contata" for the film. Check it out.
I'm pretty sure I've seen the canon fire in the 1812 being used in movies to mask gun fire too.
I thought of The Man Who knew too Much as well! One of the most tense build-ups in movie history--and the original score is at once so beautiful and subtly threatening.
Call me by your name was a huge missed opportunity... Great vid anyways, hope you do a part 2!!!
Omg yes!!!
To the next one:
Godfather III and Cavalleria Rusticana (another assassination scene)
Life Is Beautiful and Offenbach's Barcarole (two times in one film)
The Big Lebowski and Mozart's Requiem (Lacrimosa)
Also Schubert Rosamunde Quartet in the Avengers
Clair de Lune, Everything Everywhere All at Once 😁
Orpheus in the Underworld from Stardust!
Beethoven Symphony 7 II on X men Apocalypse
Nessun Dorma in Bend it like Beckham
Actually, the piece that comes to my mind when thinking 2001 - A Space Odyssey is Khachaturian, the Adagio from Gayaneh, used for the scenes with the Discovery. Unlike the Strausses it wasn't well known to the public at the time, and it has since become associated with space, James Horner quoted it for his soundtrack for Aliens. It's also a great piece to 'smuggle' into mixed mix-tapes. When people first hear it and ask, and you tell them it's the same composer, who composed the Sabre Dance, it can be a first opening to composers being a little more diverse than their most famous pieces. And it's just immensely beautiful.
When Rogue Nation was first screened, it was well received by theatregoers and opera fans, for one of the main characters Benji is portrayed as an opera fan in a positive way. The opera house is also nicely shot.
11:34 Really !🤣
If you can use classical music in film slowly, you can use classical music in film quickly.
We need eddy to give an hour of lecture on different classical pieaces and its story after this video!!!
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3:05 those strauss arent related !! they only have the same name but arent part of the same family
Brett just can't help himself being cute at :27 sec with his "woo!" & his hands in the air! Thank you editor-san for leaving that in! Excellent presentation overall, and love the new apparel...so stylish!
Eddy's got that musical knowledge
I guess you couldn't show the clip of Ode to Joy in A Clockwork Orange, They have a great deconstructed version as well in that movie. All Kubrick's movies have classical scores.
GUUUYYYS congrats for your new collection! Bravo! So fière of you!
actually Elgar Pomp and Circumstance marches are based on Shakespeare Othello quote and Lord de Tabley's poem "The March of Glory" . The 1st was re-used in Land of Hope and Glory in the Coronation Ode for Edward VII. The 4th served as recessional music in wedding of Prince Charles and Diana and also recessional for King Charles Coronation.
twoset should react to laufey!! shes quite popular as a pop artist now but has classical roots and integrates classical music into her songs
Not expecting the last bit, almost choking on my water
Same 😂
Hope this one doesn't get copystriked 🙈 but since it's classical music in films, it shouldn't be.
It was 😢
@@Imonlysleeping2 🥲🥲🥲
I actually missed them reviewing movie scenes
Like, it's been a long time
Have you seen their Tar, Mozart, Maestro reviews? (4-6 months ago?)
guys wake up, 2set new vid just dropped
Missed you, guys!
3:07 Note that Richard Strauss and Johann Strauss II are not related, it's a coincidence that they have the same family name.
I hope this helps people understand that their favorite films and works are all from classical, and the "most boring" genre of music keeps their sanity when watching anything.
you guys brought me happiness today, thank you
y'all should react to that one scene in the shawshank redemption where the classical music is playing over the speakers!
I like how the captions show "Clair de Lune" as "Clared alone" XD
Love videos from twosetviolin cos they are interesting, educational and funny. The chemistry between brett and eddy is incredible. Their dialogue is such a joy to listen and watch. Extra treat in this video- nerdy eddy is back, hurray❤
This made me want to watch/re-watch some of the films, except for the, you-know-what lol.
For someone who doesn’t know a thing about classical music, it was very interesting to hear how deeply intentional it can be for filmmakers to pick music for certain scenes.
Thanks for your work, guys. I appreciate you.
What is interesting about 2001 Space Oddity, which I learned from my Music in the Movies class in University, is that Standley Kubrick actually hired a composer to compose the underscore for this film. Alex North was the original composer and actually composed for the entire film. Kubrick decided not to use any of it and just use already composed classic works and he never told North. North didn't even find out until he went to the premiere and realized none of his compositions/underscore was used in the film. 😮
My favourite use of classical music is in Everything Everywhere All At Once when Clair de Lune is played in the sausage-finger reality. It's so absolutely absurd but it genuinely brought me to tears with how beautiful it was!
2001: a space odyssey is the movie my director grandfather did his PhD on ❤
5:04 Oh, how true that is... the best example I can think of is to compare any of the main characters' themes of FF 7 to Sphiroth's, aka, the final boss' theme.
The segment you reviewed of 2001 A Space Odyssey is literally called “The Dawn of Man”. You missed the epic cut where all of human technological advances between a club and a space ship were encompassed. The use of Richard Strauss was absolutely intentional & appropriate. It’s a superbly scored movie with amazing use of sound and absence of sound.
I forgot what piece it was, but in Shawshank Redemption when Andy took a beating just to make the whole jail listen to a opera duet I started sobbing. That is a evergreen scene.
You also have to check out the use of the third movement of Vivaldis Concerto for 2 Violins in A-Minor op. 3 no. 8 by Ludovico Einaudi in the film: The Untouchables. I just love the vibe that he‘s creating there. 🤩😌
I love your takes! Do more of those, please. :D
A good non-ironic use if classical music in a film is Beetheoven's 9th in "Equilibrium." It's such a powerful and beautiful moment in the film.
I'd love to see your thoughts of the inclusion of the “Don Giovanni” opera and Schubert's “Die Forelle” in “Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows”!
They can't react to an entire movie, but the one "classical music in film" movie that they should watch is 1948's "Unfaithfully Yours," directed by Preston Sturges. (It's available in its entirety on TH-cam.)
Rex Harrison plays an orchestra conductor who believes his wife has been unfaithful to him. During a concert, he fantasizes 3 different ways of dealing with the situation -- murder, renunciation, suicide -- with each fantasy taking its cue from the music he is at the moment conducting.
I loved the editing on the Elgar one
Loved this! More, please!
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The end of The King's Speech would also be great for a video like this.
The "Mission Impossible" one is amazing. Also, you could have extended the docking scene in "2001: A Space Odyssey". Next do "V for Vendetta" and the 1812 Overture.😁👍
I absolutely loved the Rogue Nation opera scene when I first watched it!
HOW could you forget?!!! Hannibal Lector in sublime enjoyment of the 1955 Glenn Gould recording of Goldberg Variations "Aria" as he prepared to do unspeakable things. Talk about juxtaposition! I still don't know if I like it or not...30 years later.
Probably some of the best usages of classical music (IMO) in cinema are equilibrium, where the protagonist begins to feel human emotions after being exposed to Beethoven 9, 1 mvmt and V for Vendetta, albeit the original 1812 overture features the lyrics of God save the tsar which can viewed as either undermining its purpose in the movie since russian absolute monarchy was authoritarian by definition, but it also could viewed as a subtle nod to the pre fascist Britain under the constitutional moarchy, since it’s not just close to the god save the queen/king lyrically, but also shares the motif. Another thing that makes it work great is that the entire climax is battle between la Marseillaise and god save the tsar which in modern context could also be viewed as the battle of freedom vs autocracy, but then again Tchaikovsky’s music ends with the russian anthem taking over. I could probably add a bunch more takes here, but it’s 5am and I’m not quite there yet on my 40 hours quota
Feels like Twoset is slowly getting back on track in putting out quality content.
"Imagine, like, being in space now. Whoooaaa". Profound 🙄
One of the best space sims, Elite Dangerous, plays Blue Danube when using auto-docking and it fits so well
Terminator Zero used Clair de Lune really well.
Love this concept:)
2001 was my introduction to classical music those many decades ago c/o our class music teacher. And I, A 12 yr old kid, even bought the soundtrack LP.
Recently I've seen Nocturn in E minor being used in kdramas when the actors go to upscale restaurants. Ive seen it atleast 10-15 times now.
The way i said "Hi CeDrIc" the moment i saw the thumbnail😂😂😂
Love you guys! 😂😂❤❤
Gayane's Adagio in 2001 is so perfect as well
Eddy just knows what kind of music should work ;-)
Interestingly, there was some debate about the music of which composer should be used for the villains in Die Hard: Wagner or Beethoven. The director, McTiernan, preferred Beethoven because it was more ironic.
Episode 2!
My favorite anime: Legend of the galactic heroes is almost entirely scored with classical pieces!
I love how the opening music in Trading Places really sets the tone of Dan Ackroyd's character's world view
7:48 "So basically I wanted to listen to Bach, but I then remembered I have to listen to Debussy first. I always finish on the Bach, never on Debussy." - Peter Griffin
That's the first and last time you will hear Eddie say ooga booga on two set 1:09😂
Nah, they had a period when they both (especially Eddy) said it in every video.
I don't really remember the context of the Mission Impossible clip, but I really like how the assassination was done at the word 'Vincero', which means "I will win". That makes the scene ironic for the bad guy as the assassination was prevented lol
My favorite use of classical music in film is Wagner's Siegfried Funeral March in Excalibur. It turns a slightly cringe movie into a chivalric romance. It is especially fitting in Arthur's death scene.
Oh my gosh, yes! Forgot that one! The use of Wagner really added atmosphere and depth to what would otherwise have been a so-so film.
Love it seeing you making more videos again
Vaguely remember Alan Rickman playing a cellist... or a lover to a female cellist.. in a romantic movie, which was, as I vaguely remember, pas mal.
"Die Hard" haha Nice "5th Element" is terrific! Mila Yovovich was reportedly almost not cast, as was wearing too much make-up on the call, then when the director saw her sans she got the role!
Only seen the first "Mission Impossible", maybe should watch the others.
What a treasure, reading this comment section!