Funnelling - A Simple Roulette System
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- Welcome to our in-depth exploration of the "Funnelling Method," a system designed for both low and high-budget Roulette players aiming for long-term success.
In this video, we dive deep into how to effectively use and adjust the funnelling method to fit your budget, risk tolerance, and gameplay objectives.
Through live demonstrations on a dealer wheel, we showcase the method's versatility with different settings, illustrating how it can be a powerful tool within a broader strategic approach to Roulette.
Our mission is to arm you with the knowledge and tools necessary to remain profitable over the long haul, debunking common gambling myths along the way and highlighting the importance of data analysis in predicting outcomes.
We'll revisit key concepts previously covered on our channel, emphasizing how funnelling integrates into our overall strategy and offering refreshers for seasoned viewers while guiding newcomers.
Discover the significance of Total Loss Value (TLV) data, geometric data, expected value, and how these elements influence the design and effectiveness of the funnelling method.
Whether you're starting with a minimal stake or looking to optimize your returns with riskier settings, this video provides a step-by-step guide, from selecting your target bets based on TLV data to adjusting your approach based on session outcomes.
Join us as we dissect the mechanics of funnelling, revealing how understanding loss levels and geometric data can dramatically impact your results.
If you're committed to mastering Roulette, this video is an essential resource, blending theoretical insights with practical advice to help you design a winning strategy that reflects your personal playing style.
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Happy funnelling!
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Wow, thank you! and feel free to skip the ads 😂
The strategy is simple, but the strategy's construction and thinking is very smart. Is a combination of bankroll, risk, and expected profit percentage. Thank you for your video. Keep it up.
Thank you for your comment - much appreciated 👍
Your analysis and clear explanation is fantastic! Advice for starting out and building up with small initial bet sizes is invaluable. Well done! You got a new subscriber here.
Glad it was helpful! - Thank you for your comments.
Hello. your videos are full of truths. the problem with many is the emotions, when you reach higher stakes you lose concentration and courage. as a rule, when he wins, he wins little and hard and loses quickly and large amounts. We lack discipline.
We agree people playing with emotions are simply gambling, having a strict session plan and a good understanding what systems to use and when to use them means you are taking calculated risks, in the same way as any other profession like traders, insurers and even the bookies and casinos themselves.
Learning your trade, becoming an expert and of course as you mentioned having discipline are all key factors to success in any endeavour.
Thank you for your comment . . .
Very nice system
Thank you - enjoy . . .
I have a question... the progression of bets is different between both methods. How should it be calculated?
Great video again, the funnel system is very interesting, having multiple triggers for the same bet. Helps to maintain a bankroll. How would you go about generating a progression calculator? I know the fibinacci for thirds and martingale(+1) for outside bets.
The loss levels is very interesting too, been burned a few times on chasing dozens even when I start the fibinacci on the 11th none hit and lost a bankroll. I thought this was a low risk strategy! Obviously not. Eagerly awaiting the next instalment 👍
Thanks Terry,
We might do a video on how to build a progression calculator in excel - I think people would like that - the one we built just makes sure each level makes a profit by increasing 1 on more chips when it needs to - there are a few settings you can change to get a very accurate progression to meet you needs. The progression calculator we developed has just been re-written for our website which like everything has taken longer than we thought so we are going to put a smaller version of the site live very soon and that will be on there in the free members area.
Just tried this on Betfair roulette. £50 bank, 20p stake. Won £5. Biggest drawdown was £6.20. I reset all dozen levels when at a new high.
Excellent - Top of the class! 10/10 - Thanks for watching and sharing - how many spins did you do it in?
@@roulette-professionalthat was done in 50 spins. Tried again, and won £5 after 35 spins. Was using 1st dozen. Could have used 2nd dozen based on stats. At one point, the 2nd dozen won, with the trigger on 1st dozen. The 1st dozen would have been on its 8th level. The total drawdown would still only have been £10
Well done. I am a rabbit player :) this means my entry point is higher always :) anyway! How big was your loss-stop. 8 levels or the £50? If the £50 then the win-stop was 10% what means you have to do minimum 10 successful session before lose 1 session (or £50). So please be careful when you set your stop-loss and win-stop.
Do you mind me asking how's it going still strong
Nice system 👌
Thanks - Glad you like it!
Roulette is simple. To win big bet small surface. To win small bet big surface. Reduce bets after wins. To reduce loss. Bet small on high risk. Bet big on small risk.
We agree with you, small bets (small surface) will give you higher returns for less risk.
To use this funnel system , is it best to be used on a dozen like uve chosen here that has the lowest tlv or rather follow the winning dozen like uve shown in ur other video ? Thanks in advance to opening my eyes to “ data is important “ in roulette playing
I would say following the winner during short sessions will usually come out ahead, but there are other factors to consider and we will be looking at those in our testing roulette systems series that has just started.
Hi I edited this comment to make my question more obvious, here it is: How many funnels - sets should you have to apply this strategy successfully? I understand about the two 18ers, and the three 12s, but I wonder how it can be applied in groups of 9s, groups of 6s and groups of 4s. Do they all successfully integrate in this method and, if so, what would be the method's settings with these different groups of interest when possibilities of repetition are getting low?
Funnelling can be applied in so many ways, a lot of it boils down to the size of your stake and how long you are prepared to play for, your patience level, i.e. are you prepared to play 20 rounds with no win to make a decent percentage. Many people need to make regular wins, we tend to see bets as investments and are prepared to wait a bit (we usually play multiple small bets at the same time so you win regularly but still get the high returns per bet/investment)
In the video we stick with a single dozen but you can also use funnelling to "follow the winner" which is also effective and we are planning a follow up video with more funnelling examples.
To try and answer your question:- The more funnels you use the safer your bets are but the longer it will take to reach your profit target as a number of then will need to win in quick succession. The smaller your bet size the more profit you will make but this can also take longer.
A simple rule might be the more funnels you use the more pockets you need to cover, the less funnels you use the less pockets you need to bet on.
So lets look at that - 6 Funnels/Triggers - say (1-6)(7-12)(13-18)(19-24)(25-30)(31-36) to play the even money bets - although playing even money bets is pointless as you only ever get back your original stake so use the 6 funnels to play dozens or columns, that should be safe enough.
This is hard to explain in writing:-
You could use Red and Black as funnels for a 6 pocket bet but have multiple bets. Lets say you target (7-12) and (25-30) so you will need 4 funnels running a 6 pocket progression. Red and Black funnels for (7-12) and a Red and Black funnels for (25-30)
I hope that helps
RP
@@roulette-professional You're putting out great content and I really do enjoy it keep at it. And I agree that multiple bets with multiple funnels feeding them have great potential. On a side note and off-topic, one thing I noticed with the Probability tracker when playing doz or columns (online). Is Certain Dealers have certain patterns. Some tend to hit 1 or 2 sections more often, whereas other dealers seem to hit all 3 evenly. I know that should not be the case but it seems to be. I funnel doz/columns on the dealers that lean towards 2 sections. And funnel grouping of 6 numbers on the dealers that seem even over the doz/columns. Just something I thought I would point out.
Could the dozens funnel also be used for the 9 pocket bets? If so how would the increments change if you were aiming for ten percent? Also correct me if I'm wrong - the amount wagered is based on the counter of the funnel that won last?
Yes you can use various combinations of funnels and bets assuming you have done some rough calculations (our video out soon called why clockwork roulette systems fail will help massively with this).
But to answer your question, Yes you can use the Dozens as funnels for a 9 pocket bets, you can use the same progression templates as we used in the second demo (or you can create a better progression with the progression calculator th-cam.com/video/oayB1DzntVU/w-d-xo.html) the examples in the second demo labelled red & black were based on a 9 pocket | 0.20 Chip | 3 Subset | 10% minimum progression. If you are following the nines I think our near disaster demo probably showed you should increase the progression levels you allow as well as the funnels as you are suggesting.
Hope that helps.
It does help a lot, thank you. The only thing I am unclear on is what exactly determines/triggers which wager is placed.
@@roulette-professional Okay, tested it with one dollar units following your progression calculator. I took 170 to 187, so ten percent. The only scary thing is watching the counters on the third dozen build up and hoping for two third dozens to land in a row to get that win.
I wonder if it would make a difference in general if played with Instant Roulette, since that would save you a lot of time. Will the nature of Instant Roulette has an impact on the overall statistics being found on a one weel roulette table?
That an interesting thought, we have just posted a video ( th-cam.com/video/aivh_GaKYp0/w-d-xo.html) using the 12 wheel version of roulette. We haven't done much testing on that particular system, with the minimal testing we have done on that system over the last few years we noticed you don't seem to get such large runs of losses although we cannot confidently confirm that. We have decided that we are going to use the 12 wheel version for the second series of Do Casinos Cheat so that may provide some answers.
The funnel table amounts do not add up the two amounts at .0.60 1.00 1.40 it should read 0.60 1.00 1.60 so the rest of the amounts are wrong . Very good video thoe i am learning thank you
Thank you for your comment Andrew and pointing out a potential mistake. Unfortunately I don't understand what you mean at the moment. - please can you tell me at what point in the video you are referring to please by putting how many minutes into the video you are talking about - Many Thanks RP
UPDATE:- Don't worry I think I understand what you mean now - the values on our funnelling template are not "fibonacci" style numbers (you do not add the last two numbers together to get the next number in the sequence - even though it might look like it to start with) all of our progressions are generated by a bespoke progression calculator if you look back in the video at 03:44 you will see at the bottom of the session plan the actual progression table used (Its set to 10% Minimum Profit - so the profit/ROI fluctuates a bit but it keeps the bet size as small as possible for as long as possible)
Blew it twice with the first strategy and wiped out profits and bankrolls. It's not better or worse than the rest.
Sorry to hear that - Its difficult to comment with knowing the exact method/settings you were applying and what tables, stake and range you gave yourself, we will be producing more videos and developing more online tools that give you more insight about what, where and when to bet based on the previous spin data in your current session but its a way off yet.
@@roulette-professional Thanks for your fast reply. It's not so much about the money, rather than the disappointment seing the strategy fail. I used everything like you explained in the videos thirst method. Nothing has been changed, or tweaked.
This system is very interesting. How do you determine a proper progression to use? Thank you.
Good question. you need to start off with what your own goals are, the next video we mentioned will clear up a few points even though its called why bets fail, when we understand the geometric nature of data from all bet sizes it will help you understand the kind of progressions you should be looking at for whatever you want to achieve.
So depending on your goal, how long you want to play for, how much stake you are willing to risk etc all that kind of stuff will make more sense. Then at some point we will apply to many systems at the same time in one big strategy where all the systems complement each other and support each other and we will know what system to use and when to use it to meet the goals of the strategy.
Don't forget every player is different, some want to place small bets on every spin, some want to wait and just place a few larger bets when the time is right and everything in-between. Which is why we are presenting our knowledge in a step by step in a way so when we get to designing a strategy then you will be able to design it to suit yourself.
Thank you for your reply.
@@roulette-professional 👀👍
Man! The amount of research went into this insane! Appreciate it, I wish to ask, If i could make a full time living Playing roulette, as i am fine with big bankroll and really small profit, I live in a third world country, I just need to make $30/ Day, Is it really possible to make that kind of living? I only trust you on the internet when it comes to roulette. Please provide your insight on if it is possible and what kind of Bankroll would i need
Yes you can make a living from Roulette if you are disciplined enough. A $30/day target should be easy to achieve.
There is no simple answer though to your question, it will depend on the type of bets you are placing, and the type of betting style you adopt.
Some players want to play every spin and only play for 15 minutes a day and are happy winning small regular amounts, needing many wins to hit their target, others are prepared to observe many spins before placing bets and are happy to "Work/Play" for a few hours per day, others are happy use a low geared progression losing for many spins until that hit a significant return needing only a few wins to hit their session target.
It all about having realistic expectations, for example making 10% per day should be easy, so a $300 bank roll would be required. Trying to make 50% per day should also be possible meaning you only need a $60 bank roll.
However, your bank roll will also be dictated by the table you are playing. If your table has a minimum chip value of $1 then you will probably need a bigger bank roll to accommodate various progression levels which will also depend on how many pockets you are covering.
If your table has a lower minimum chip value say $0.20 or even $0.10 then a $60 stake will allow more progression levels although smaller bets means less profit per win and you will have to play for longer to reach your target.
Its impossible for us to give anyone a definitive answer to that question as there are so many variables to consider.
There will be a video on effective strategies at some point although we need to demonstrate a few more dynamic systems first.
When you have access to a number of dynamic systems, you can design a number of session plans which add up to a realistic strategy to achieve a specific goal that suits you, your capital, your targets and your playing style.
I hope that helps for now.
@@roulette-professional Thanks for the reply! I am planning to follow your first 3 funnel strategy, however there were instances where I hit 11 in a row in practice sessions, And even you say clockwise progression system doesn't work, could you suggest any tweak in this funnel or could you launch geometric strategy to make a consistent living through roulette, I am very okay with work/play and a very realistic return of as low as 5% a day, as where I live despite being a seasoned accountant I make as little as 1.8 USD/Hour, anything even like 5 USD an hour as really amazing for me, as you quoted Nietzsche, I am happy with small wins and grateful about those, However I need things which work and are safe, hence i eventually build on my capital, Being a trader i understand the nuances of risk management, uncertainty and winning small and losing smaller. With this funneling strategy i have seen small consistent wins, however I lose bigger than wins as you only said that Clockwise progression doesn't work. Hence please suggest to me any tweaks in the funnel system suggested by you and or if any other strategy which is personally used by you for regular profits. Hence My Goal is 5% a day, good risk to reward ratio, ready to even work 8 Hours a day and profitable at the end of the month. Kindly suggest if required any tweaks in the dozen funneling system or any other strategy. I would be grateful, Thanks!
@@roulette-professional @roulette-professional Thanks for the reply! I am planning to follow your first 3 funnel strategy, however there were instances where I hit 11 in a row in practice sessions, And even you say clockwise progression system doesn't work, could you suggest any tweak in this funnel or could you launch geometric strategy to make a consistent living through roulette, I am very okay with work/play and a very realistic return of as low as 5% a day, as where I live despite being a seasoned accountant I make as little as 1.8 USD/Hour, anything even like 5 USD an hour as really amazing for me, as you quoted Nietzsche, I am happy with small wins and grateful about those, However I need things which work and are safe, hence i eventually build on my capital, Being a trader i understand the nuances of risk management, uncertainty and winning small and losing smaller. With this funneling strategy i have seen small consistent wins, however I lose bigger than wins as you only said that Clockwise progression doesn't work. Hence please suggest to me any tweaks in the funnel system suggested by you and or if any other strategy which is personally used by you for regular profits. Hence My Goal is 5% a day, good risk to reward ratio, ready to even work 8 Hours a day and profitable at the end of the month. Kindly suggest if required any tweaks in the dozen funneling system or any other strategy. I would be grateful, Thanks!
Am I right that the issue here is that to end a session with a profit either the selected dozen has to hit more often than the other two dozens, or your winnings are greater than your investment left on the table? In your first example play you need the third dozen to hit consecutive spins to reset the bets .
Its not a case of the selected dozen has to hit more often as such, but as you pointed out the only way for its own funnel to clear is through a repeat win (assuming you are using dozens to funnel dozens), that is a slight downfall in the system as that specific element of the system is effectively a clockwork bet although it is spaced apart in the sense other funnels may win in the meantime potentially taking you to your target and the session ends before the "clockwork" part of the bet becomes a problem.
@@roulette-professionalthanks for the reply. I had some success with funnelling dozens, but the wheel eventually caught up with me whilst I was on the third dozen and the first dozen hit time after time ☹️
Can you explain why you chose the dozen with the lowest TLV? (4:23) and not the highest TLV? It seems counter-intuitive to me? I would assume the higher TLV means they are soon to get more hits, and the lower TLV would start to cool off. Do I have those mixed up?
To a point there was a whole lot of information we didnt want to have to explain in that specific video as we knew it was going to be a fairly long video already.
There is a saying "The trend is your friend", to a certain extent you are more likely to see a set of pockets that are doing well continue to do well for a shrt period of time, so we cut to the chase and chose the "warmest" pockets for that demo.
To have done it properly we should of looked at say the last 50 spins, considered the TLV for all pockets, the considered the TLV for the target set (3rd dozen in this case), then compared the TLV for the other sets in the group (Doz 1 & 2) depending on what the TLV for all pockets was i.e. high 1450-2200 the we should of betted on the set with the highest TLV or if the TLV for all pockest was lower i.e. 800-1250 the we should be chosing the set with the Lowest TLV. We felt it would be too much to put in the same video so we took a bit of risk/short cut.
I hope that helps . . .
@roulette-professional what would you do if the tlv were at the average? Or in-between 1250 and 1450? Find a different table?
Just tested this again. Disaster. Did it with Columns, and it hit £5 in 30 spins playing Column 3. Also playing Dozen 2, fortunately not with real money. It never got in profit, and was on a drawdown of -£118 when I stopped. Not sure how it would work with a follow the leader style.
That's not good, although as I explained to someone else all this system really does at the moment if you are using 3 funnels is reduce the chance of you losing by 3 compared to playing a single progression. If you remember in the video we say all systems win and all systems fail. This will always be the case, what we have to achieve is a strategy that wins more than it loses i.e. if you can make say 30% per day and win 5 out of 6 days consistently you are making money.
There will always be a losing session we still have them ourselves, think of the stock market traders they don't win every day sometimes they fall behind for weeks or more and there is some comparison to what we do.
Its system like the martingale where when you lose, you lose more than you have won which are the problem.
So don't be too disheartened - keep playing without using money and record your findings change the settings here and there, then when the next video comes out see if the knowledge you gain from that video changes they way you tweak the settings and carry on testing.
Thank you for letting us know.
I agree with RP. Not enough to sit down and looking for a dozen or a column what was has less %. The RP said that they was not enough clever when they did it in this test session because they did not check enough previous numbers. I personally compare my pervious sessions to the currently session because I think not enough to check the previous 100-500 numbers at the currently session. RP also know it. They also said that the more info can help to create a more safety setting. I did not try the strategy what was the first test in this video, and I also did not try the 2nd test session with 3 streets (or 9 numbers) strategy. Because I did not think these strategies enough safety. I mixed these strategies basically. You can see this mixed strategy if you see the comments below this video.
This looks like a modified fibonacci where you increase the bet size in smaller proportions and chase 1/4 of the board. Unsure how it's anything revolutionary
I don't think we claimed it was revolutionary, evolutionary perhaps?
I did not find my comment where I have upgraded your 3 streets strategy to 2 lines strategy. Maybe you can find it still. Maybe the youtube did something I will check it later again.
We noticed some comments disappear depending on your comments settings, make sure you sort the comments on a video page by "Newest" then all comments appear in order, if your comments are sorted by "Top" then TH-cam just shows a seemingly random sample of comments for a particular video.
Also we only get to see comments in our control panel at the video level, we do not get to see the replies made to existing comments so its getting harder to find things we should probably reply unless we traverse through all comments on all videos. I try and look once a week but it not always possible so sorry to anyone who's comments we miss.
ok. Then my comment was cancel because of me maybe. Because I know where was it. Anyway! I made an excel calculator (now) what shows me the right bet size if we want get back minimum 10% ROI but we want cover more like 9 numbers (or 3 streets) then we can use the funnel strategy to two lines.
Two lines bet progression with funnel strategy:
Your minimum unit size was: £0.20
Level Bet / Line Level cost Total cost Return Profit ROI
1 0.2 0.4 0.4 1.2 0.8 200.00%
2 0.2 0.4 0.8 1.2 0.4 50.00%
3 0.4 0.8 1.6 2.4 0.8 50.00%
4 0.6 1.2 2.8 3.6 0.8 28.57%
5 1 2 4.8 6 1.2 25.00%
6 1.4 2.8 7.6 8.4 0.8 10.53%
7 2.2 4.4 12 13.2 1.2 10.00%
8 3.6 7.2 19.2 21.6 2.4 12.50%
9 5.6 11.2 30.4 33.6 3.2 10.53%
10 8.8 17.6 48 52.8 4.8 10.00%
11 14.0 28 76 84 8.0 10.53%
12 22.0 44 120 132 12.0 10.00%
13 35.0 70 190 210 20.0 10.53%
If I write a different value to here "Your minimum unit size was:" then the excel also change the numbers below.
Use the funnel strategy is good. Now we use two funnels only but we cover extra 3 numbers. 9+3= 12 numbers (win chance: 32.43% = every 3 or 4 spins will hit LONG period only!)
If someone try to use the funnel strategy on two lines (or other name is two double streets) then please use the cold double lines what are at least 30 missing. So looking for two double streets what was not hit at least 30-30 times in a row. If your betting progression cover 13 levels then you need £190 * 2 (total cost after 13 levels) because here you use 2 funnels. Use more strategy when you play roulette because these strategies will not let you to take bet often. Please do short session only. No longer than 30 mins. Play for fun, not for money please. It is not a work place. Win-stop is no more than the (stop-loss/5). = if you cover 13 levels = (£190*2) £380/5= £76.
Win-stop=£76 (20% of stop-loss, or "win-loss rate is 5:1)
Stop-loss=£380
Like I said already, use more similar safety setting (entry point) at other betting strategies at same session because these events will not happen enough often.
I don't play with very low unit. Better me if I use minimum 50p to the unit value and cover 9 levels only (total cost is also £76*2 funnel = £152 if the unit value is 50p) and my win-stop is (£152/5) £30. One safety strategy is not enough if we try to do short sessions.
How to play with this? Go to 16:55 at this video. But ignore the bet amounts and also ignore the 3 streets bets if you would like to cover at least 12 numbers per spin. Use the two lines (or two double streets) strategy after a better entry point (at least 30 missing / double street).
Better if you set higher the entry point from 30 to 35 or 40 because 12 numbers can miss long too. Look this at this video here. Very important to keep in your mind this know loss levels with 12 covered numbers strategy: 28:08
Broh you know nothing about online roulette, cool system but only for real cassinos, online roulette has algorythim, just study the numbers
Interesting comment. We are still waiting to see somebody to produce some evidence of these algorithms, either in test results or filmed / documented industry insider type information.
What evidence do you have to support anything you just said?
We are currently producing a series th-cam.com/video/GhJ1itTnVvc/w-d-xo.html and doubt it will offer any results to support your stance. (We have been running far more comprehensive tests for many years)
@roulette-professional Well said ! I would think that the only difference between the two, is that a physical wheel is based on physics, and an ETG wheel is based on an RNG. An 'algorithm ' would certainly be cheating, and end that game for any casino using it in the U.S. Please follow up on this assertion. It's right up there with the ' magnetic ball' theory, in my opinion.
@@chris.eskimo 🤣🤣🤣 is so funny How you guys can confirm things without really knowing about It
@@Revesbet Both of your comments so far would suggest you know a lot more about roulette than the rest of us. We gladly welcome and appreciate input from anyone with some authority on the subject. Roulette of course is a huge, never ending topic for experimentation and learning and many people have a lot to contribute, so please feel free to share your knowledge not just your hot air.
@@roulette-professional i already told you, is a algorythim, Just study the numbers and you'll see hellla of patterns, But i wont teach you anything for free, because this knowledge changed my life.
Not sure what in the hell this funneling is all about. Doesn't help listening to the ridiculous background music that sounds like a broken record. The lower the numbers covered the more certain you are to hit a long losing streak.
Hi Robert. Sorry to hear its confusing, lets see if I can clarify it a bit more.
We call it funnelling because in the case of the first demo you have 3 separate bets or progressions that all place a bet on the same set of pockets. Multiple bets all funnelled to the same place on every spin.
If each of the the 3 funnels loses say 5 times each that's a total loss of 15 spins and if you was playing a single progression its likely at that point you would bust or be close to it and there is a high risk of that happening.
By using the three funnels or 3 separate bets they are still at a manageable level, and we are using the randomness of the previous result to pick the funnel/progression to move forward on.
A normal clockwork system just keeps playing a single progression, by using the previous result to choose which funnel/progression pot to move forward on you have a simple dynamic system, in the case of the first demo you are approximately 3 times less likely to fail than using a single clockwork progression, using the funnels acts as a kind of gearing.
I hope that helps a bit.
Best Regards RP
Best way is red double double double double double double if you have hundreds
I've seen black 20 in a row
Thank you for your comment, however what you have described is the martingale system - probably the worst clockwork system possible - other than the Mitchellgale of course (what happened to The GOAT?). . . There is a bit about the martingale system end of this video th-cam.com/video/5Sm-8mgcQZc/w-d-xo.html at about 34mins 30secs in highlighting why its so bad, and in the next video that we mentioned "Why Clockwork Roulette Systems Fail" its going to feature the Martingale as a system to avoid and you will see why when we use geometric data to mathematically prove why you will always lose more than you win.
@roulette-professional that's the one. Me Dad got thrown out a casino in 90s for using it.
Best straight bet is number combo. Bet on all numbers with 1,2,6 and if number has two in one straight put double on. The probability of winning increases by over 80 percent.
Total numbers selected 26 Total bet =31
Min return 0 x9 numbers zero bets
Mid return net 5
Max return net 41
You could start with £31 and bet 20p
You would need a good run of 2s, 1s, 6s and doubling up on on the straights that hold two of same would make up for losses when they land.
Example
22 would be 40p because it has two of the 2s as for 26, 11, 16 etc
The rest of the numbers 2, 21, 28, 29, 36 etc etc 20p bet
The probability of a 2,1,or6 dropping in any digit is 25/9 which gives the player the edge.
I named it the 126.
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@@jfkj1695 Interesting concept - I have made a note of it - at the end of the Do casinos cheat series we will code up a number of users suggestions and play them through the 1000 spins we collect in the series, we will extrapolate the results from all systems to give an hourly equivalent and see which systems come out on top . . .
This is my friend strategy.......
He just bet 2dozens in 12 spins if the ball land on third dozen 12 in a row he lost......he needs only 1 win then log out.......back to play after an hour if he wants......i never see him lost 12 in a row.......
You will see a specific dozen win 12 times in a row at some point (13/37)^12 although it is rare. The test of his system would be if he loses more on one single lose event than he has made from all his winning sessions combined which is usually the problem of any system.
If we play with 2 dozens and we want win only 1 time then how we can make enough profit to cover the losing session what was not arrive yet but always coming? Any business has good and bad period. The roulette is no exception about this. Every contact or the life also is no exception about this. Yes, the two dozen strategy also works well until we start betting good time. But no one can be successful always. Have to survive the bad days. Two dozen strategy rule (to me): if you take bet at every spin after your start this progression and you lose the first level with 1-1 unit (to 2 dozens) then the minimum betting amount of the next level is the last level * 3. If the ball hits one of your numbers then you earn the half amount of the first level. And this is why not a good idea to take bet at every spin to same place (stick the same numbers covering)... I think your friend does not take bet at every spin after he started a progression. Or he does not bet same dozens at his progression. I don't play this strategy but I have a picture on my phone where I see these:
spins: 67
1st dozen missing: 10
2nd dozen missing: 15
Low numbers missing: 10
Last 11 numbers: (older is the number 4):
31, 27, 33, 34, 32, 36, 28, 35, 29, 26, 4
Yes, I know that your friend can take bet 12 times. I wanted to show you that not difficult to see a longer period winning at any 12 numbers. I think your friend has a safety entry point. But if he wins only a small amount (half value of his first level value) then I think better if he rethink this. I hope he does it well!
how is this even a thing?
it just looks like you're betting on the third dozen. you wipe the info collected on the other funnels when you win and therefore you don't even gain anything from keeping track of them.
maybe you missed something while explaining the funnel method but I just don't get it
If you play a dozen with just 1 progression and lose say 12+ spins in a row you will probably go beyond the scope of your progression. Using three separate funnels or progressions means you now have 3 times the resilience or leverage over the game allowing the randomness of the session to choose which Funnel (progression pot) gets used.
The system without additional statistical monitoring will still fail eventually when you play it for long enough, in the case of using dozens as funnels you have about 3 times more opportunity to play before you go bust than using a single progression.
Yeah, makes no sense to me.
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Left side. If the stake is 50 then the 10% is 5 units. You wrote: stake is 50 and 10% (25 units).... ah ok, I see here: 27:12 that you add the right side profit units to the left side profit 10% (5 units) and you got 25 units.
The 9 pocket bet is not bad. But yes, if you have not talked about the entry point (at the end of video) then yes, I would have written about this in a comment. :) Thank you for this info. I think better if we use this 9 pocket betting strategy at two double streets. Ok, then we can win less when the ball hits one of our pocket but we got back out 12 pockets for this less win values. The progression values goes up faster I know.... If we try to use this 9 pockets strategy on medium risk then we have to meet this a nice 47 missing what is so high and we will not take nothing bet during many sessions. Because we not see this 47 missing at these sessions. If we modified the 9 pockets strategy to 12 pockets (two double streets) and take bet to two places (against the original 3 streets strategy where we always take bet to 3 places) then the entry point is 35 only. Meet with the 35 missing at two lines (or two double streets) same time. We all have seen that the double streets also can miss 25-30 times very easy. The 1/3 covering or the 1/4 covering is enough big difference to think about this modify. The "price" of this modify is the change of level costs. These going up significantly. But we can see 35 missing more often against the 9 pocket's medium risk 47 missing.
Thank you for this video! 🙂
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Fist look I liked this 3 funnel strategy. This important thing was to me during I have seen your test: the profit after 30-50 spins....hm. it is not enough good sentence. So I don't want take bets many times during a session to arrive my win-stop. I would like to do 15-30 mins long sessions only. But yes, if my goal is the short sessions, if I looking for the more safety entry points then I will run from one roulette table to the another if I don't want to wait 10-20 mins until a can do my first bet. My win-stop is 25-30 units per session what is no longer like 15-30 mins. To have a great strategy what works long term is my plan basically. Your first strategy here... 10% profit is enough high but yes, this means that we have to have 10 successful sessions one after another if we want not waste our time and energy (and our money of course) with this strategy and betting plan. If we make 10% profit always then I know that you know mr. RP that 9 win is 90% of our investment. If we lose 1 session what is our basic investment (100%) then this means we did bad work. This is the cause why have to take a LOT OF attention to the right entry point. This is the key to any strategy basically. This is the answer to that question that why we check the session time or why we count the spins. Because better if we to don't go until the point of our win-stop or stop-loss than do a long session and force to get enough profit.
Your first test is not really ok to me I think...
1) Need 350 units (50 starting unit is 9 average unit profit. *7 = 350 starting units and 63 average unit profit / 1 hour. What is 31.5 units / 30 mins.) to start this session if I what make 25-30 units per session what is no longer like 15-30 mins. It is not bad. But have to see: 10 successful session is 250-300 unit profit average what is less like our investment amount. This is not so good but yes, only 10% profit at every session means you have to make so much successful win every roulette month. Maximum 2-3 losing session monthly (if you play average 30 sessions monthly) what is absolute not easy. The sessions where run out the session time or session spins can help us to be more successful.
2) I have to take bet at every spin. What is against to my think: take a couple of bet during the session.
Speak later.
I think we confused that bit on the left side. We meant the units value was 20p as we were playing with what we class as a fifth of a chip - Its the first time we've done a video where the minimum chip value was less than a Pound.
I apologies for any confusion. It was meant as :-
£50 x 10% = £5 profit or
£50 / 20p = 250 units x 10% = 25 units profit
I know people usually call 1 chip 1 unit - however we tend to describe 1 Chip as £1, if its the smallest bet then it is also the unit, but if we use smaller chips which we see as fractional chips then the fractional value becomes the unit.
To answer one of your points below we wouldn't usually aim for a 10% return it is too low, like you say you need to win a minimum of 10 sessions. 25-50% is a reasonable target for most sessions so we would design a strategy towards that kind of goal .
The point of this video and all of our videos is to give people a starting point of how a system could work and we usually use an example that is easy to explain, not necessarily what we are recommending or would do normally ourselves.
Only the individual player can decide what is best for them based on stake/time/bet size or complexity etc.
In the next video even though its called Why Bets fail - the point of the video is when you understand why they fail geometrically, you will understand how to set systems to reduce the chance of failure. Then you should be able to make 25-50% 90% of the time which will work.
Thank you for fast answer :)
Don't forget to check that a dozen, column or any 12 numbers how many times missed in the past. The RP (Roulette-Professional) shared their experience about this already.
Yeah, I am a player who doesn't want do longer sessions like 15-30 mins and who rarely wants take bet and still want to earn £25-£30 on average at his sessions. Not easy to have this control long term. Not all sessions are successful and this needs to be compensated for. The loss-stop can not be higher like 4-5 win-stop limit. If you can not be successful with a strategy 8-10 times before you lose one time then you are a good customer for the casino. The mistake is not in the strategy. The entry point is always the our decide and this is the most important. Every attention and energy goal to find the best entry point. So please use this with your responsibility.
When using funnelling strategies, you could have say 6 funnels (6 streets), you just need to practice managing it right and work out the required bamkroll. Lets get on Roulette Royale testing this out. Great content
Good idea Terry there are many settings you can try, if we get time we might do a bigger bankroll version using the Nines to create 4 Funnels to play the Dozens and Columns at the same time.
Yes, please make it like that, I'm thinking what if I play with dozens and columns, what will the funnel look like, and use a bet tracker + strategy at the start@@roulette-professional
One tome play real live roulette table and see how ro work tour strategy sir pls one time try ❤
I am sorry I don't understand your request - there are two live play examples in the video.
Please stop with the annoying music...thanks
Yes we did get a bit carried away with the music in the first few videos, it was a bit experimental being new to video creation - its worse if you have a decent sound-bar attached to the playback device - if you can watch the vid's without amplification - we have toned down the music in later videos and a lot of videos now have no music at all.
What are the odds of getting over lost level 11 on a funnel? And can you mitagate the risk even more by using more funnels?
I think I already know the answer to my last question just need some confirmation.
It depends on what size bet your funnel is covering, in the video we reached loss level 11 on a set of nines.
there is a lot more information on calculating loss levels in our latest video "Why Clockwork Roulette Systems Fail"
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Technically if you think about it lets say you are using red and black to funnel the dozens. You can expect a dozen to reach loss level 21 as shown in the table at the end of the video as high risk If you have two funnels then you can effectively halve the expected loss level although as the table suggests that's still high risk.
If you are using dozens to funnel dozens then you can divide by 3, however any of the funnels can easily go beyond that it just happens less often so you have more chance to get-in get-out with a profitable session.
Another way of doing this is to draw some blank boxes at the top of each funnel progression, that way you do not start betting until a few levels have passed, like a trigger bet.
So using 6, 6 street funnels to cover dozens will take way longer but is much safer?
@@daveyvandevelde9339 Yes that's right - its not actually any safer in mathematical terms as such, its just that it should take longer before you experience an extreme result.
using all 6 lines will take a lot longer, i suggest you try using 3 or 4 of the lines as as funnels, so you wont be placing bets on every round.
i.e. if you use 1-6 / 13-18 / 19-24 / 31-36 as funnels then if 10 lands you miss a spin, you get a bit of the "safety" without the longevity of obtaining profit by running too many funnels.
Mix it up as well, use different funnels on different sessions as that will provide additional "randomness" to your bets making them less clockwork.
I will just keep learning more about this as the mathematics behind it are so intriguing. Thank you for all the the time and effort you are putting into this.
Olá boa noite eu testei e consegui ganhar 20 fichas
Uma sugestão é começar pela dúzia média , pois a dúzia com mais porcentagem tem hora que ela fica muitas rodas ausente.
GOOGLE TRANSLATE: Hello good evening, I tested it and managed to win 20 chips
RP: That's good news well done . . .
GOOGLE TRANSLATE: One suggestion is to start with the average dozen, as the dozen with the highest percentage have times when they are missing a lot of wheels.
RP: That's actually a really good suggestion, if we choose the "Hottest" dozen like we suggested then we could end up choosing it as its about to go hard the other way, So a middle of the road approach should also work well. Ultimately The system without additional statistical monitoring will still fail eventually when you play it for long enough, in the case of using dozens as funnels you have about 3 times more opportunity to play before you go bust than using a single progression on a dozen.
with small bankroll and this sytem you can easy burn money to 0.
That's true of any system if you do not understand the math behind the game.
Rather just day trade stocks ...
I wish I knew how. Let us know if you can get around 10% per hour or even 10% per day would be good - please post a video if you can.
@@roulette-professional give me my win-stop goal daily because the running helps me to have profit always 🤣 I'm sorry! It was not funny 😐
this is garbage roulette online or live will always lose over time. there is no wining strategy
We agree to a certain extent. There is no single clockwork winning system. This system without additional statistical monitoring will still fail eventually when you play it for long enough, in the case of using dozens as funnels you have about 3 times more opportunity to play before you go bust than using a single progression.
You can can only beat roulette with a carefully designed strategy utilising multiple dynamic systems at the same time, switching them on and off at different times depending on the session data.
@@roulette-professional nice answer
TY.
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Your welcome . . .