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- Chris Bangle is one of the most important figures in BMW's history. After Claus Luthe's departure in 1990, the BMW styling department found itself in a difficult spot. Design was at the very bottom of the totem pole, with engineering and finance controlling the bulk of vehicle development. BMW hired Chris Bangle in 1992 and his impact was felt pretty much immediately. He presided over the E65 7-Series, E85 Z4, and E90 3-Series. For better or for worse, Chris Bangle gave BMW styling a much-needed shot in the arm.
0:00 INTRODUCTION
4:26 STASIS
16:31 THE INVISIBLE MAN
26:49 DISRUPTION
38:20 EQUILIBRIUM
47:21 EVOLUTION
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The E85 z4 was peak Bangle era BMW IMO. Such an instant classic.
Little me loved that car! Still looks lovely…
that along with the E46 and the E60! Such iconic cars.
@@cloed0llAbsolutely! The E60 M5 is my 2nd favorite BMW of all time, after the Z8.
In my opinion the design language worked the best on sporty cars
The E60 was probably the first really nice Bangle inspired car. Especially the M5- it’s has aged well.
I watched this a year ago. Just came back to watch it, again. Desperately want a part 2. Bring us part 2
As a car designer and E92 owner, I am really appreciate your passion to made this vedio happend. This is also a relatively complete background story about Bangle BMW design. I learned a lot and shared it with many of my friends. I am really looking forward to your second episode, Huge thanks, it is a great job!
Thanks for your kind words. I really appreciate it.
I had e92 in 2012, among many others BMW I had I loved that one the most :) for its aggressive, timeless design both of front and rear. beautiful car, I envy you can have it ;)
The Peugeot coupe that is shown in this video is a 406, not a 407.
curious to see z9's transformation into the 6/8. cant wait for the next episode myself!
I've always loved Bangle's designs for the most part. He brought BMW out of the box-age.
Right! 1-Series M and the Z4 was probably peak Bangle.
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@@AapVanDieKaap Thx for expressing all our thoughts.
Hell no. His design is the worst.
the E60 is one of my favourite 5 series designs
thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I was needed a videos like this for a long time! Can't get my eyes from this!
thank you! just the video I was looking for 👍
Oh my god thank you! After judt watching and finishing your first video about bmw and struggling to understand, this is a gift 🎁
Thank you again 💓
I’m glad you enjoyed it. I’ve struggled with my audio for a while but I may have finally found a process that works. Thanks for your kind words. They keep me going!
Great review! Thanks - cheers from brisbane
Greetings from the USA! Thanks for watching. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Finally another design oriented car channel!
Thank you so much, great documentary
And thank you for watching. I really appreciate it!
Wooow great video..I'm looking forward to more
Thanks for watching. There will be much more in the future. Stay tuned!
Brilliant channel!!!!
Correction! Claus Luthe had nothing to do with the establishment of BMW Technik nor the design of the Z1 roadster. This unit operated independently from the main development offices of BMW AG.
Surprisingly insightful video. I'm surprised it has so few views.
Thanks for watching!
E39 is/was peak of BMW. Last of the analogue cars.
I've never been a fan of the "Bangle angles" however, I forgive him after seeing the latest crop of random angles thrown at sheet metal and plastic.
The Chinese influence inflicted on us today has lifted Mr Bangle to God like status.
My son convinced me not to sell my F11 Alpina D5 because "The only BMW worth buying these days is an E28 like your old one" this speaks volumes as he's only eighteen which highlights the sober design language old men like me enjoyed is still recognised as crisp, fresh and aged well, unlike myself!
A great documentary which I only found after typing in Barchetta as I have fond the memories of hurtling around Oxfordshire in my Fiat Barchetta! So it was good to learn Mr B was at Fiat at the time.
I believe, it is always matter of personal taste if we like car or not. Back last year, when I looked for a "new" car and first time cast an eye at E92, I knew immediately. This is the car! and I have it, enjoying driving it and the way it looks. I have never was a fan of the BMW brand, or any brand before. So I can't be accused of blind love of the badge, but I always know what I like with full conviction. We also can't be zealots who always follow one/old way. We need changes and creative ferment or we would never left caves. Ps. Episodes about designers are really cool, and I appreciate the insight into their work. Muy bien! Ps2. I like the content but presenting it perhaps could be improved. In my opinion stock unrelated repeating pics/videos don't contribute well to the quality of your fantastic work.
My 2000 E38 740 and my 2006 E85...both classics. I wish I could keep them forever ❤
It’s pronounced myoo-nik, not myoo-nich. Loved the documentary!!
E46 LCI it is a timeless design.
Incredibly interesting material. Thank you so much! Where did you find all this detailed information? I'm impressed.
Besides that, barchetta is spelled with a hard "K": /barketta/ and the name is the dimuntive of the italian word "barca" - a boat. :)
Thanks for watching. I primarily relied on three sources to create this video. The first was “Chris Bangle, BMW Global Design (Car Men, Vol. 8).” By Robert Cumberford. This was written mere months before the controversial E65 debuted in Frankfurt, so it was interesting to see how Bangle was perceived before it was shown to the public. I also referenced select chapters from “Driven: Inside BMW, The Most Admired Car Company in the World” by David Kiley and “BMW Z4: Design, Development and Production” by David Lightfoot.
As for the name of the channel, I was unaware of its true meaning. I saw it attached to a few cars (as well as a Rush song) and thought it was fair game. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
@@Barchetta You’re doing an astonishing job! I will have a look at your sources, thank you.
Convicted of manslaughter and still kept his old job now that’s talent
28:51 G05 X5
Can you imagine having to stab your own son? Geez…
Chris Bangle was a true design star and in fact he actually had a banner in his office that listed his accomplishments!
It was the star Bangle's banner!
🎶José can you see🎶
"Hey it's about a Spanish guy!"
Its only me, who's hearing "he" constantly? I love your videos man! They have a lot of educational values, but you must "spice up" your language. Cheer's!
Great video. I think your timing may be off on Flame Surfacing. I had read that Anders Warming invented Flame Surfacing while working on the Z4 project in the late 90's. The X-coupe I believe happened after... Here you state the X-coupe is where flame surfacing was invented. Not sure thats correct.
Chris Bangle's new direction in BMW styling ruined the brand for me forever. I hated it when they first appeared and I still hate it. For me it borders on cultural marxism. Well, at least there are still a few classic models around.
Funny, how the Bangle BMW's seem timeless now. The 7 series, when in good condition, looks really good today.
I have the updated E66, but the face lifted version I believe 'fixed' some of the ugly features.
I have the prefacelift, ugly or not i love it
The e46 was the last beautiful BMW design. All downhill from there.
Thank you, great documentary. Looking forward to the part two
IMO the e38 (or even e36) was peak BMW. The front end on that thing is just unrivalled, rear can be called a meh. But overall proportions and clean styling, just commands respect. G30 is also good, well balanced between the front and rear in terms of attractiveness. Z series is underwhelming, can't look beyond it's ridiculous proportions
Perhaps I will be a minority, but Mr. Bangle's ideology does not speak to me at all. Lacks the aggression and authority that one expects out of a BMW
The E38 is joji nagashima
The E65 from the front evokes sadness, even pitifulness somehow, as if someone who worked and worked for a promotion and had a proven track record to support their promotion, but at the end of the ride, they get canned due to company going under. Looking at the car in both real life and in the picture as shown in 54:17, it is a pig in a wig. I still remain firm in my position that the facelifted version should have been the launch version.
At least for that person, the silver lining is that they now work at Mercedes.
But then again, I'm being paid to engineer and solve electrical engineering issues, not design cars.
The facelifted E38 is one of the best looking cars ever made
E38 and E36 are so sleek and flowing, yet with beautiful details and proportions.
Maybe because it's the BMW's I was exposed to as a childhood car enthusiast, but the Bangle era of BMW was peak BMW on my opinion. The Z8 (shout-out to Henrik Fisker), E65, E60/E61, E63/E64, E90/91/92/93, E83, E85/E86 all pushed the limits of automotive artistic expression.
Bangle was/is a massive mistake, flame surfacing destroyed BMW design.
BMW needs to fire everyone under 40 in the design department and bring back people who know what a BMW should look like. Enough of the Eskimo snowshoe grills, weird side sculpture lines to nowhere and bedazzled whorehouse interiors.
Bangle Era BMWs has aged astonishingly well, to think people hated his designs in the beginning
Well, I still hate them today, even his non BMW ones.
@@MattBlue okay well that's you and we don't care
Yeah, we don't give AF, lol
Out of all designs of the Chris Bangle era the E60 aged beautifully
Ooooooof. Idk man. There are some clean E60s in my area and they just don't do anything for me. They look like a giant mass of melted butter
I'd take a wild guess and say that the "Malibu exile" involved coke... Loads of it 😆.
X-concept was a mess. I was at a loss for words when I first saw it and not in a good way. Even its sober reincarnation as Z4 remained weird until Adrian van Hooydonk fixed it.
Overall, you can talk as long as you want about design language and engineering limitatios, it doesn't make Bangle's cars look less awkward and sad. Out of all his "experiments", I can only name one exception: 3 Series E46. Yea, I'm just a guy from comment section, but, in my opinion, that car was the highpoint of BMW design.
You could say that these bad experiments were necessary to loosen up the uptight German management, that was stifling creativity, if it wasn't for the brand taking a nose-dive into dementia and eventually losing their whole identity chasing after most tacky and tasteless Chinese customers
No!
I just realised that I've never watched the E65's so long before taking my eyes away for desperation. That really was atrocious. At least the Lci saved it, made it acceptable and in some ways very attractive. Still I don't disrespect Bangle's work. Sure he stepped onto some shits sometimes but it would be weird to imagine BMW without his passage. Certainly deserves more respect than today's BMW designers. Plus, I grew up in the early 00s watching 2005 and 2006 BMW showroom videos everyday after coming back from kindergarten, probably that helped a lot.
Claus Luthe is genius!! Bangle ruined the results!
its not munitch, its munich like munik! very controversial designs by bangle but wasnt successful. designs ended up to be very amercian by spirit and american designs at that moment were a total failure
Eh he got off to a rough start. Goddamn the mid 2000 BMWs were disgusting
He was to cars as octopus to sharks..
Only good looking Bangle cars are the Z3,Z8 and the E46
X3 pre-facelift is very nice, most traditional but still Bangle-designed
Chris Bangle HAS BEEN A RUIN FOR BMW DESIGN
His designs were ghastly, he ruined bmw aesthetics. Pre bangle cars were way better looking
Yeah , he was a genius .
A lot of people don't like BMWs anymore because they look so terrible. It's not even a matter of opinion. The lines clash and don't make sense making them naturally unpleasant to look at. Bangle basically ruined the brand forever.
He left in 2011 and until then the bmw was ahead of every other German brand
The question is, did it NEED to be revolutionised? When you look at the overall direction BMW design has gone in, and some of the aesthetic abortions BMW has produced since Bangle's tenure, you have to wonder. Everyone refers to the beautiful BMW's of the preceding decades as the "Golden Age" of BMW design for a reason, and their design philosophy back then was evolutionary, not revolutionary. Some of Bangle's designs were acceptable, but his successor Hooydonk appears to be designing cars for nothing but shock value. He should be imprisoned for the gargantuan gaping-mouth grilles on the latest generations of BMW's. Truly awful design.
Bangle ruined BMW
One of the worst designer of BMW history!
The worst ever designer in the history of the world maybe in the same class as the NSX designer. I have yet to see any designer come in and mess up a perfect design for not 1 but all three BMW lineups.
I hope you mean the current NSX. The original NSX was a thing of great delicacy and beauty.
@@kirkericson2722 of course! I wonder how she got the offer to design the NSX after her designs failed in normal cars.
Chris Bangle is to BMW what Jonny Ive is to Apple