Got the Pioneer Opus-Quad yesterday. It's truly an amazing piece of gear. Though the XDJ-XZ has been really good to me for the past 3.5 years it was time to move on to a newer technology. I was skeptical at first but now that I have it on my hands I'm happy I got it.
@@KaleafWinsNYC just the Opus-Quad is 13.5 kg. I had the Pioneer FLT-OPUSQUAD flightcase and sold it because it was more than 30 kg with Opus-Quad. Now I'm waiting to buy the Udg hardcase which weights 3.5 kg
Fascinating to see all the hate for the form factor and overall visual aesthetics of the unit. As a product designer, my opinion is that this is a nice balance of form and function, and is a refreshing departure from the same, boxy aesthetic that has been around for decades. As an old DJ (25 years+) I have used all the toys and witnessed the acceleration of very passionate (!!) discourse around what is “the right way to DJ” and what kinda of features are superior.. the fact is, none of this will make you a great DJ. You find the tools that put you in your flow and go with it. Don’t let anyone else dissuade you from going with the setup you love. Personally, I think this is really cool, and I would have no problems destroying a dance floor with one of these bad boys ✌🏼
They are at this point, but the really interesting thing is that Engine DJ and now the Opus Quad are software based, making improvements much easier than with previous DJ gear.
Bought a Prime 4 the other month and was worried when I saw this video, After watching I believe the Denon not only is still better than this product while being a few years older, but its almost HALF the price with more features that I would actually use. Pioneer is only alive due to tricking people into believing they're the best because of their "Club Standard" marketing they use on people.
don't think anyone is tricking anyone, and as ever, it's always good for their to be choice/competition, as the consumer then usually wins in the end...
Prime 4 looks really good, this Pioneer unit is waayy too pricey for the 'average' DJ... This doesen't change the market, I think this just widens the gap between serious enthusiast and pro DJ...
well its not half the price anymore. Denon went up on pricing a lot. its around 800 difference to the OPUS: But i agree that Pioneer Pricing has gone crazy and most Pioneer Products are overpriced since the company as been sold a few years ago. but at least its a breathe of fresh air. But i would never buy it as long as its not in sight to support Streaming officially. Design language is weird. But as they took some parts from the Native Instruments Design which is a very functional one its not all bad. Its just weird. but yes even with inflation and all that i think 2500USD would be a more fair price point.
@@jasonparker1454 At least here in the US I spent $1700 last month and I can't see the prime4 for more than $1900 currently while the Opus Quad 4 seems to be going for ~$3200 which makes what I paid 1/2 the cost, I see what you are saying with the native instruments design but it feels like a step back from even the XDJs for what you get for everything but the 4 track functionality. I believe $2500 would be much easier to understand the value of it but it still feels inadequate compared to the products they are trying to compete with directly(like the prime 4). I am probably biased as I have been using the prime 4 and am very interested in getting my hands on the Opus to see if I get proven wrong like I was when I first tried a Denon product while I was looking at the XDJs for my usecase
It looks superb. Huge improvement and now firmware can update new features what’s not to like. Ergonomics are beautiful by the looks of things. I love my XZ and not looking to change but if and when I feel the requirement to do so I would definitely upgrade to this👍
I hear that this is good for mobile DJs but I think they're going to sell a ton of these to hotels and bars, too. It's a premium all-in-one and looks fancy/cool in a way that will fit into swanky places, and it seems like every bar lounge and lobby is putting booths in these days
Gives some insight to what an XZ2 could have esp with the new mixer! Just ordered an XZ yesterday and I won’t be swapping but at least Pioneer doing something new 👏
XZ is an awesome piece of kit, you will love it! Every time i think about selling and i play a set on it, i end up thinking why would i sell such a nice piece! 😂
Judging by the bourgeois design and ability to play different tracks over different speakers, I think it would suit fancy events like those held in hotels, fashion shows, and art exhibitions. I already see many people complaining about the design but it’s certainly something people frequenting those kinds of events would like. The DJ could be mixing his main tracks with two decks in the main event hall and have separate mixes playing over the remaining decks in other rooms.
Just upgraded my xdj-rx2 to this unit and I'm most impressed. I regularly play venues with cdj 3000 and a Varity of top end mixers and to me this isn't a step down when I play a function where i just want to setup and roll, soon as we no longer require two separate library's that will be an advantage but for functionality and astatically it's perfect for the club user who works other environment's. good fun to use, very well built and BIG.
For real. Can’t even add cdj or sampler to it with pro dj link. Such a disappointment. I love been waiting a long time to see what they came up with and they totally ruined it
I remember when critics went in on the Numark NS7III because it was 4 channel and had advanced features. To see decks like the Denon and this, I am asking myself why all the hype? All I see when I look at these new decks is my NS7III…at twice the cost. And my NS7III is still banging out beats…
I could never fathom hauling this thing around to gigs, it's enormous and heavy as all get-out! We're almost to the point where these all-in-one units need to be built with wheels on.
I have one - it is bigger than my FLX 10 but well worth it. The mics are pristine no more feedback the platters are superb, overall this thing is incredible.
Good on Pioneer for finally delivering a genuine 4 channel all in one unit but I genuinely can’t see myself spending near £3k for that. I still use my DDJ400 for the majority of my wedding, corporate and plug and play bar gigs and sometimes crack out the RX3 for when I want to leave my laptop at home - have had no issues with 2 channels. Be interesting to see the long term 12months+ reviews
I have an XDJ-RX3 but looking to buy this as my permanent home set up and use the RX3 as my travel all-in-one. I like that you can add external gear like turntables for those nights you want to play from your vinyl collection.
Cue link is really great feature , really good! and i actually think the styling looks amazing... very new york loft apartment friendly rather than dedicating a large part of a room to a huge mixer, player, separates set up.
We think they names it "Smart Cue", something we didn't pick up on in the review, although I can't be 100% sure (all a bit of a blur here, it's been a nusy few days).
for that price or lower, get yourself a full loaded x1800 and 2 sc5000 cdjs from denon and be much happier. like for real what is pioneer thinking pricing this at 3k usd plus?
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - Denon is finally the leader, it's obvious because with this mixer, it's clear Pioneer like what Denon did and are now forced to follow and copy...Can only be good for all us DJ's...
I would love to see the real time stem splitting and also the gated cues instead of the regular hot cue behavior. These are the 2 features that I think are missing 🙂
@@digitaldjtips yeah but is not the same cause it’s one cue at a time (if I understood your explanation of the feature correctly). It makes it a little harder to do cue play.
This reminds me of the revamp of the Atari video game console in appearance, lol. But finally, Pioneer decided to play catch up to Denon. It's really nice, but for that price, I dont see anything that will make me stop using my Prime 4 for this.
This Pioneer vs Denon argument that dominates the comments - Pioneer is top dog when it comes to pro DJ gear in clubs, and that’s not changing anytime soon. But the DJ scene has evolved way beyond just clubs. Now, DJs are spinning in bars, cafes, rooftop parties, fitness centers and even at the beach. This shift isn’t just about culture-it’s about tech, too. You can grab a DJ controller like the DDJ-FLX4 for under $500, toss it in a backpack, and you’re ready to rock a beach party. (You’re not going to lug CDJs to the beach unless you’re Carl Cox, right)? Pioneer knows their CDJs will keep dominating the club scene. They also know the market is wider now than ever before, and the Opus Quad appeals to some of this wider reach. But they’re not sweating it when Denon drops something like the Prime 4+ with more features for less cash because they know their market. Clubs will still buy CDJs because they’re the standard. But if you’re DJing at a cafe, bar, or even from your living room, it’s great to have other options. For example, the Opus Quad is clearly designed for those beyond-the-club setups, offering a pro-level standalone unit at a lower price and complexity than CDJs. It’s not about which product is “the best.” It’s about what works for you and where you’re playing. Competition is a good thing for all of us because it pushes everyone to step up their game. So, whether you’re all about Pioneer or digging what Denon’s doing, just be glad we’ve got choices. Without competition, the scene would be a lot less exciting.
What's up with all the hate folks? As an XZ user that knows the 3000's pretty well (but don't own em), this thing is freakin sweet! It's basically a bridge to a 900/3000 setup at 1/3 the price. Everything possible on the XZ pads is possible on this device. If you're missing a feature super bad (like gate cue's), plug in your laptop and do it through there. Still don't have a feature you want and feel like complaining about price? Buy a cheap midi controller and map it to any effect you want in rekordbox. Want 2 more decks? Just buy a Xone K2 and map it. Sounds like everyone complaining either owns a Prime and doesn't know otherwise or is comparing this to the XZ instead of a full 900/3000 setup. This deck will help aspiring DJ's practice for the big show equipment at a fraction of the price. And it's not faux wood. Maybe faux copper, but it's clearly not wood. It's fluted metal casing. If you don't like it, mask and paint. Great work innovating Pioneer! XY touch effects are DOPE and ya'll just got 3 times the effects with that since most effects are split between high pass, low pass, band pass, etc. Now you get all three under each effect. Chill folks. This thing is sweet!
And if you want mobius, just plug the laptop in. map a button to it and hide the compute underneath the table. But most producers I know play with a laptop open. If you're not using the Perform mode and ableton link, maybe your passing up say... 80% of the capabilities. Just maybe.
Great features and new standards set. These new standards however will make it difficult to use as club standard. As a club DJ I would not accept huge changes in button layout. It would delay my act. I really look forward to a cheaper XDJ-XZ version standalone. Looking forward to an XY touch display for effects on a DJM 750 MkIII. Also, aesthetically, this is quite old-fashioned and kitsch (not vintage!). Reminds me of Atari 2600 gaming console from the 80s!... Maybe fit to sit on a fancy table-cloth at a wedding reception!...😆
Good to see Pioneer get this out. My opinion is, It feels like they are trying to compete with Denon but haven't quite got there. They made it look cool and have 5 screens but just fell short. I'm sure it will get better with updates but it may be a low priority compared to their other units. However I would like the 2 extra displays on my Prime 4 :)
All we wanted was an XZ2 lol with that 10.1 inch main screen lol but now we got the Espresso DJ controller (still looks cool but I am never getting rid of my prime 4 lol)
All electronics have CPUs. Certainly their previous standalone mixers. The question is precisely what kind of CPU, and how well the software is optimized for it.
@@digitaldjtips I think it’s an opportunity for you to push OEMs for more specificity in which components they’re using. There’s a big difference between ARM and Intel MacBooks, for example, and having that same information for standalone mixers is a bar we should be raising with DJ vendors imho.
All Denon has to do is do a software update to add most of the features that pioneer adds (Digital effects, algorithm, playlist,…). The price is not for mobile DJs, club DJs or anyone who’s a hobbies. I’m not sure what they were thinking pricing it at $3000+. The look of the unit is also not that appealing, at least to me. I purchased a Prime 4 several years ago, and yes I do wish the jog wheels where bigger but that’s about it. So far Denon is the winner in my view.
Great review. Looks like a fancy art-deco; very new, the curvature on the front, very uncanny presentation for Pioneer, but different. Hopefully this makes folks try to short sale their XZ so I can finally have one for myself. Lol 😂
To be honest I was expecting something like this, at the moment I don’t have any standalone controller , because I just sold my XDXZ, so I already ordered 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
@@Klootviooltje how sad you’re commenting on someones decision. You have no idea if he might find it perfect or wants to throw his money at a stripper for all he wants. I wouldnt buy it but hating like this in ytube comments is something else😂
It's exactly what I have been waiting for my only problem is the naff copper styling but I'm just being picky. Love the rest of the styling and this is def a unit that would fit in at my house. Plug my 2 turntables in and I'm in heaven. SO SIGN ME UP FOR ONE!
You can pick up a S11 x2 Rane 12's for the price of that thing, most of us already have a laptop so. If they kept the price closer to the XDJ-XZ would have been killer(apart from the Fisher Price Wood aesthetic) but Pioneer Taxxing you and extra Grand, really?
Well I just died and went to dj heaven. I've been waiting for this for years as a matter of fact I almost left pioneer for denon a couple of years ago...glad I didn't. ALL GOOD THINGS COMES TO THOSE THAT WAIT.😊
@@digitaldjtips Several things even a $1300 Live 4 can deliver (proper 4 waveform view, lighting/dmx, ableton link...), but even the basics you mentioned, like an SD slot to keep your music in a safe space, the slip mode, loop roll, proper jog displays, proper multipurpose performance pads BELOW the jogwheel, the track skip buttons are at a bad place, I miss the master EQ hardware controls, those things manly. It looks kinda sexy, but 3000+ bucks, no way... btw, thanks again Phil for your great video!
@@ImpactSpace With that big touch screen, and the usb3 and/or link on the back . I think Pioneer DJ will be able to sell you a lighting control subscription upgrade in the future if they wanted too
I absolutely love the aesthetic on this unit. It's easily the sleekest looking bit of DJ gear ever made imo. Pioneer have always won the beauty contest though. The Prime 4, while I think is still gonna be the MVP in the 4 channel standalone category, is a bit ugly in comparison. I don't really see the point of the little screens on each deck. They will be useful when mixing on all four decks, but there's enough room on that main screen to do the four wavelength columns. At that price I would expect performance pads and, like you said, Phil, some other features like SD card slots and slip mode. That X/Y effects controller is nice! Bravo Pioneer. That price is crazy though. As expected from Pioneer, but damn why did it have to look so good. It's like a retro games console. I never had an Atari 2600 (too young) but I love that aesthetic. I need this unit just decorate my room. I wonder if pioneer will sell me just the outer casing?
24:53 @digitaldjtips Auto Cue means the system will automatically detect the beginning of the track depending on dB, so Auto Cue Level is how sensitive you want it to be. If you set it louder (towards 0 dB) it will most likely set cue at the first kick of the track. Memory Cue is the cue point you set advance in Rekordbox, or while playing.
Very expensive for what it is. Honestly, are people booking a DJ with what he's playing music on. Do they take selfies and drool over the latest bit of kit?
It’s awesome and funny at the same time. I’ve been obsessed with a 4-channel xdj release for years, having owned the RX and RX2 (both of which I absolutely loved)! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Im willing to spend a big more for an at home setup with a 4 deck option. I will say that I’m disappointed that most of the effects functions are triggered I screen (as I understand it atm) and which it had more of a standard mixer performance setup. Just my OP though. Great work on Pioneers’ behalf and I hope this leads to more promising gear in the future. Great video review!
PioneerDJ is delusional if they really believe this is really aimed at mobile DJs, and missing all the things mobile DJs want and would use in a stand alone. No pad modes, no sampler, no slip mode, no video out (boasting an internal cpu but can't offer an HDMI out, many mobile DJs use & want video, yet you keep missing that point, but it's for mobile DJs. Who does your research?). But the price is through the roof as usual. look, I don't doubt DJs mind paying as long as it meets their needs, but honestly this doesn't, so mobile DJs on a whole will leave this alone, cause it's not enough to make them put down their favorite controller and laptop. Nice application of the XY effects though. As usual the 1% that can afford it will buy it, but not who you say outwardly it's for, as PioneerDJ is known for and demostrated time & again when it comes to these "high end" units. This ain't even gonna scratch farless dent the Prime 4 market. The SC Live units are more useful to mobile DJs than this, onboard speakers and all, and they are more affordable than the Prime 4, realistically speaking.
As a Prime 4 owner. I absolutely love some of the features on this Opus. The Prime would be so much better with the Bluetooth option like this and the XY touch control of effects. Having the extra utility menu tabs to control more is really great too. Obviously this is still in development and I imagine it will follow a lot of the primes upgrades (4 waveforms, sampler etc…) but its soooo ugly and I think that will put a lot of people off plus the under jog hotkeys, SD slots, internal slot and the price.
Watching this still as i comment . I totally hate the shape of this thing ! - can’t imagine taking this to a wedding . The all black and orange is hideous i think . I was sure hoping for something much different . I have Rane 4 notification by email when it’s available. I really love the smooth echo button ❤
For the 1st time Pionner have a true all-in-one with 4 channels. A serious competitor to the Denon Prime 4, lacking some capabilities that can be overcome through firmware. The new design is quite interesting, but could be an obstacle for the more conservative. Personally I like it. Expensive. True. It costs the price of a CDJ 3000. Is it worth spending so much money? I think it's actually always a personal question. It certainly won't be for all DJs, but it will conquer its place in the market.
Good day, I read a lot about the fact that Denon is a bedroom dj device and the pioneer the professional dj device is... I play about 2 weddings/parties a weekend in the Netherlands with a Denon Prime 4....it sounds good, it feels good and I work with it with more than pleasure.... when it came out, Pioneer wasn't nearly as far along... and even now the Opus is still lagging behind... no streaming services (yet), no DMX standalone etc etc..... they were able to cheat at Denon for 4 years... and then the price...... Have a nice day
Or close it definitely. The way Pioneer is working on in high level products is to remove laptops from DJ booths. You can say thanks because at least you have the sync bottom! I guess it's always on.
I think everybody is overlooking the purpose of this unit - its perfect for a bar or a small venue with multiple Djs - some on Sticks or on Laptop with RB or Serato, I would install it in my Bar for sure - the look - some like it some not - I think its nice
I think staying in the Rekordbox Ecosystem is crucial for working pros. Especially those that want a standalone that they can bring to private bookings and any time spent building libraries, analyzing files, etc. is all ready for the club/festival. The X Y effects on the mixer Pre-dates any app on the iPad. Years ago Korg had a 2 channel and a 4 channel mixer with the Korg Kaossilator built in and it is so much fun doing effects this way. But you run into the same problem as the Korg, which is you get all excited with techniques you discover but don't have it available to use at some of your best gigs. But I agree with others that the price should have been much cheaper if Denon can get their price that low.
Looks better thought out than the bitter disappointment aka prime 4. Still not sure why there’s not a standalone that runs serato. An HDMI out for external monitor is also missing WHY 😭
Well explained....I do agree it have cool features but they skimp out on features it should have like a sampler SD slot SSD slot that's interchangeable or maybe 2 SSD slots for dubbing/backup exc.....a USB rec display to let you know how much space is used and how much is left while recording for that kind of money it really should have more.....
It looks futuristic whilst looking like an antique. I'm not a fan of the design and it doesn't look suitable for mobile use. I think you were spot on when you mentioned it's like a piece of furniture, something for a DJ's front room maybe rather than a robotic CDJ set up.
It's the Pioneer Prime Four! Four years late, with less features, basically double the price tag and strange looking jogs. I also heard that Denon is releasing a Prime 4+ that will stream directly from Amazon music. The only people I could imagine this appealing to would be those that wanted a Prime Four but didn't buy it because it was not a Pioneer product. Maybe also a DJ whose wife is complaining about how the DJ gear looks in the house (Do we really need a DJ set up in the living room? Of course we do...), this looks a little, neater, I guess. Not for me (prefer the CDJs) but I am sure it will sell boatloads since it is Pioneer.
This thing is not pretty, but it's growing on me, visually. Finally a departure from standard Pioneer, I can only appreciate the boldness, the minimalistic classy retro look is awesome. Just need some black marble cover on the jogs to go the extra mile lmao. The rest of essential features like automatic track analysis will come after i'm sure, what's the point of the cpu if not.
This is a huge let down. Missing a lot of key features that aren't even mentioned. I was going to go all in on an Xdj xz 2. Now I'll wait for Demon's answer.
@@digitaldjtips the performance pads there's no serato pitch n time which is huge. The performance pads are a big one for me. Everything else seems to be on par with whatever's out there once they fix all the issues with getting all the features to work
I can’t get past the price, i don’t mind the look of it but in terms of features prime 4 wins is less expensive and has longevity due to consistent updates. The couple of features the opus has Denon could replicate. That said Pioneer stepping out and doing something different is commendable the rev 7 as another example
@@digitaldjtips in my opinion i the true stand alone battle will the updated XZ and Denons full update to the prime 4 the opus is not intended to be the flagship standalone for pioneer it is as much a software battle as it is hardware so see what happens in a few months
Can we talk about how there’s ZERO pioneer branding on this thing?? Wild choice; feels appropriate for the design but very strange marketing choice. Anyone have insight into why they might have gone this route? Note I love it - I cover all the branding on my gear - but it’s novel and very peculiar.
i like the the smooth echo and the temp cue button controlling the hot cue. i always wondered why manufacture never did this. well i am wondering no more
Still a shame that Pioneer high-end mixers still won't allow FX being assigned to multiple decks of choice. It's a nice feature in RekordBox software that I have been using for the past 2 years.
@@digitaldjtips On the older units with FX deck selector switches: I was told on the Pioneer forum that it had to do with how the FX bus routing was designed within the audio interface on the mixers and standalone-controllers. But with the new touch-screen interface for FX deck selector. I think they could add some functionality such as holding SHIFT allow you add or subtract the deck to the FX bus. This can be useful let say you got a backing track for the kicks, hats and snares on deck 1, and melody and vocal on deck 2 and 3 and you want FX (echo/reverb) only on deck 2 and 3 so the backing track on deck 1 doesn't get the FX's.
Ouch, just the price alone is eye-watering...I'mm currently using a Numark Mixtrack pro, having been dragged kicking & screaming away from vinyl..!!! I'v been DJ-ing for over 30 years and refused to go digital..till last year. I've mastered the Numark now, so looking to upgrade this year...I only reason why i'd consider Pioneer, is the 'club' aspect, I play mostly Jungle, Drum & Bass, Breakbeat & Hardcore and every club/gig I go to, they have Pioneer... I think i'll look at the Denon though just on cost and features... BTW, I've always been a rogue, an outlier etc... Remember back in the day? Intel vs AMD.... I went with AMD, stuck with them...and look at them now... Nice unit Pioneer, but that price tag?? Artist/Producer/Pro_DJ money...ouch Most DJ's arent Tiesto or Carl Cox...
I’m really on the fence about upgrading to this but why no streaming services , no sampler , no slip mode , and ….. no stems for 3500 dollars ?!? No SD CARDS ??? I’m so confused. It seems I have no choice but to wait or go with the prime 4 plus. I had the prime 4 and didn’t love it. Sold it. It’s far improved in the last couple years especially on the plus. But man what a bummer this doesn’t have all the things …. And when the hell are we getting motorized fully standalone ???? How many years are they gonna drag out these tiny incremental upgrades ?
Slip mode is a really poor omission, there's even a button that could be used. We agree with that. Sampler, streaming - many DJs would take or leave these things.
I think a lot of these are going to sell. Over the past week the amount of XDJ-XZ that went for sale multiplied! There was 2 available within 50 miles and now there’s like 12. And the prices are crashing on xz’s. I ordered one and it should be here march 24. I DJ at bars and private parties and my other platform is djm-a9 or V10 and Cdj-3000’s. Just depends on the event I’m doing. Can’t wait to try this out and report back to you.
Double the price of Prime 4 But they finally did a complete job Even the name is new and different Looks like an #RX3 & #Prime4 had an affair and this is their baby ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@@digitaldjtips suggesting they will perhaps have other devices that share this design language like opus dual, or opus one media player. I like that could replace the XDJ line!
Got the Pioneer Opus-Quad yesterday. It's truly an amazing piece of gear. Though the XDJ-XZ has been really good to me for the past 3.5 years it was time to move on to a newer technology. I was skeptical at first but now that I have it on my hands I'm happy I got it.
Can you sample with it?
How heavy is the Opus when pure traveling to gigs?
@@KaleafWinsNYC just the Opus-Quad is 13.5 kg. I had the Pioneer FLT-OPUSQUAD flightcase and sold it because it was more than 30 kg with Opus-Quad. Now I'm waiting to buy the Udg hardcase which weights 3.5 kg
@@MixMasterHak yes
Fascinating to see all the hate for the form factor and overall visual aesthetics of the unit. As a product designer, my opinion is that this is a nice balance of form and function, and is a refreshing departure from the same, boxy aesthetic that has been around for decades. As an old DJ (25 years+) I have used all the toys and witnessed the acceleration of very passionate (!!) discourse around what is “the right way to DJ” and what kinda of features are superior.. the fact is, none of this will make you a great DJ. You find the tools that put you in your flow and go with it. Don’t let anyone else dissuade you from going with the setup you love.
Personally, I think this is really cool, and I would have no problems destroying a dance floor with one of these bad boys ✌🏼
We tend to agree. It feels great to DJ with this.
loud & clear man!
Beautiful. But Denon are a LOOOONG way ahead of them for functionality.
They are at this point, but the really interesting thing is that Engine DJ and now the Opus Quad are software based, making improvements much easier than with previous DJ gear.
A year later unless I’m crazy I’ve seen almost no real evidence of stems , streaming , etc.
zero updates, just as with their other gear (cdj3000). Screw AT.
Bought a Prime 4 the other month and was worried when I saw this video, After watching I believe the Denon not only is still better than this product while being a few years older, but its almost HALF the price with more features that I would actually use. Pioneer is only alive due to tricking people into believing they're the best because of their "Club Standard" marketing they use on people.
don't think anyone is tricking anyone, and as ever, it's always good for their to be choice/competition, as the consumer then usually wins in the end...
Spoken like a genuine bedroom DJ!
Prime 4 looks really good, this Pioneer unit is waayy too pricey for the 'average' DJ...
This doesen't change the market, I think this just widens the gap between serious enthusiast and pro DJ...
well its not half the price anymore. Denon went up on pricing a lot. its around 800 difference to the OPUS: But i agree that Pioneer Pricing has gone crazy and most Pioneer Products are overpriced since the company as been sold a few years ago. but at least its a breathe of fresh air. But i would never buy it as long as its not in sight to support Streaming officially. Design language is weird. But as they took some parts from the Native Instruments Design which is a very functional one its not all bad. Its just weird. but yes even with inflation and all that i think 2500USD would be a more fair price point.
@@jasonparker1454 At least here in the US I spent $1700 last month and I can't see the prime4 for more than $1900 currently while the Opus Quad 4 seems to be going for ~$3200 which makes what I paid 1/2 the cost, I see what you are saying with the native instruments design but it feels like a step back from even the XDJs for what you get for everything but the 4 track functionality. I believe $2500 would be much easier to understand the value of it but it still feels inadequate compared to the products they are trying to compete with directly(like the prime 4). I am probably biased as I have been using the prime 4 and am very interested in getting my hands on the Opus to see if I get proven wrong like I was when I first tried a Denon product while I was looking at the XDJs for my usecase
It looks superb. Huge improvement and now firmware can update new features what’s not to like. Ergonomics are beautiful by the looks of things. I love my XZ and not looking to change but if and when I feel the requirement to do so I would definitely upgrade to this👍
Thanks Kev!
which nee features you got in the meantime? ;)
I hear that this is good for mobile DJs but I think they're going to sell a ton of these to hotels and bars, too. It's a premium all-in-one and looks fancy/cool in a way that will fit into swanky places, and it seems like every bar lounge and lobby is putting booths in these days
Yes definitely another type of customer for this
Gives some insight to what an XZ2 could have esp with the new mixer! Just ordered an XZ yesterday and I won’t be swapping but at least Pioneer doing something new 👏
Lots of people really interested in an XZ2...
you'll be pleased with your XZ, I can promise you that.
Maybe the name of the RX2 is OPUS DUO🥳
XZ is an awesome piece of kit, you will love it! Every time i think about selling and i play a set on it, i end up thinking why would i sell such a nice piece! 😂
I’ve bought one and your video has really helped me understand the screen. Thankyou
Glad it helped
DJ: "Can we get Denon Prime 4?"
Pioneer: "We've got Prime 4 at home!"
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Bought the Opus a few days ago and it is by far the best all in one dj set ever created!!🤩😍🤩 Makes the prime 4 look like a absolute joke!🤣
It's certainly excellent, but to be fair, so is the Prime 4/4+.
The jogwheels alone are incredible
It's easy to make your own sampler. Just record your 8 samples in one track, set your hot cue's to the start of them and tada...
Yup, a "sample set".
@@digitaldjtips now that you have 4 working usb standalone channels... yes.... How do you feel about the absence of SLIP function ?
@@digitaldjtips or just do it on a Prime unit as you should ....
Judging by the bourgeois design and ability to play different tracks over different speakers, I think it would suit fancy events like those held in hotels, fashion shows, and art exhibitions.
I already see many people complaining about the design but it’s certainly something people frequenting those kinds of events would like.
The DJ could be mixing his main tracks with two decks in the main event hall and have separate mixes playing over the remaining decks in other rooms.
He/she could indeed.
@@digitaldjtips His or her indeed! 🥳 Happy International Women’s Day!
Just upgraded my xdj-rx2 to this unit and I'm most impressed. I regularly play venues with cdj 3000 and a Varity of top end mixers and to me this isn't a step down when I play a function where i just want to setup and roll, soon as we no longer require two separate library's that will be an advantage but for functionality and astatically it's perfect for the club user who works other environment's. good fun to use, very well built and BIG.
Yes, agreed Katy! It's a lovely size to DJ on.
i has been so much dj unit but this Opus Quad is so amazing simple to use and perfect
For many people, yes!
They can keep this.
Totally agree
For real. Can’t even add cdj or sampler to it with pro dj link. Such a disappointment. I love been waiting a long time to see what they came up with and they totally ruined it
With 4 channels in the mix already why would you need to add more ?
@@akeam42 he must want 6 decks :)
@@williamwallace6508any reason someone would want that as a mobile dj? Genuine question
I remember when critics went in on the Numark NS7III because it was 4 channel and had advanced features. To see decks like the Denon and this, I am asking myself why all the hype? All I see when I look at these new decks is my NS7III…at twice the cost. And my NS7III is still banging out beats…
Good to hear it!
Your NS7 probably weighs as much as a Sherman tank too 🤪
This is much cooler than I expected it would be
What do you like the most about it?
I could never fathom hauling this thing around to gigs, it's enormous and heavy as all get-out! We're almost to the point where these all-in-one units need to be built with wheels on.
A trolley would definitely make sense (i know, I lumped it 500yds and that was enough for me under my arm)
They have a nice bag for it
I have one - it is bigger than my FLX 10 but well worth it. The mics are pristine no more feedback the platters are superb, overall this thing is incredible.
Good on Pioneer for finally delivering a genuine 4 channel all in one unit but I genuinely can’t see myself spending near £3k for that. I still use my DDJ400 for the majority of my wedding, corporate and plug and play bar gigs and sometimes crack out the RX3 for when I want to leave my laptop at home - have had no issues with 2 channels.
Be interesting to see the long term 12months+ reviews
Interestingly, we don't think most DJs care about extra channels, yet the DJ companies love making four channel units!
extra 2 channels may be useful for those with other formats from the past to plug in and use. For aesthetic purposes as well.
I have an XDJ-RX3 but looking to buy this as my permanent home set up and use the RX3 as my travel all-in-one. I like that you can add external gear like turntables for those nights you want to play from your vinyl collection.
It would certainly make a nice home unit
Cue link is really great feature , really good!
and i actually think the styling looks amazing... very new york loft apartment friendly rather than dedicating a large part of a room to a huge mixer, player, separates set up.
We think they names it "Smart Cue", something we didn't pick up on in the review, although I can't be 100% sure (all a bit of a blur here, it's been a nusy few days).
Great review, thanks! It's actually arriving today! They told me June/July, but it's on the truck and I'm very excited! Love the design and features.
Excellent news!
Once this is streaming compatible, I just might cop.
for that price or lower, get yourself a full loaded x1800 and 2 sc5000 cdjs from denon and be much happier. like for real what is pioneer thinking pricing this at 3k usd plus?
I guess they'll find out soon enough.
i like how piioneer are being innovative with the aesthetic that is really needed in the controller market
Yup, a breath of fresh air.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - Denon is finally the leader, it's obvious because with this mixer, it's clear Pioneer like what Denon did and are now forced to follow and copy...Can only be good for all us DJ's...
Indeed, can only be good for DJs.
I would love to see the real time stem splitting and also the gated cues instead of the regular hot cue behavior. These are the 2 features that I think are missing 🙂
You can approximate gated cues with the new Smart Cue feature. Don't think we'll see Stems any time soon.
@@digitaldjtips yeah but is not the same cause it’s one cue at a time (if I understood your explanation of the feature correctly). It makes it a little harder to do cue play.
@@digitaldjtips I saw a leak pioneer controller with stems buttons but don't know if it's fake.
@@digitaldjtips Do you mean that Recordbox won't have Stems soon or just that the hardware won't have dedicated controls?
Pioneer DJ TH-cam Channel : Here's the introduction look of our latest product !
Phil one seconds later : Here's our full review of that product !
Review embargo
We often get kit in advance, however due to a combination of circumstances, we had merely 24 hours with this before launch...
@@digitaldjtips thank you phil for reviewing every DK kit in this world. been fans of you since long time.
This reminds me of the revamp of the Atari video game console in appearance, lol. But finally, Pioneer decided to play catch up to Denon. It's really nice, but for that price, I dont see anything that will make me stop using my Prime 4 for this.
Hi Michael :)
This Pioneer vs Denon argument that dominates the comments - Pioneer is top dog when it comes to pro DJ gear in clubs, and that’s not changing anytime soon. But the DJ scene has evolved way beyond just clubs. Now, DJs are spinning in bars, cafes, rooftop parties, fitness centers and even at the beach.
This shift isn’t just about culture-it’s about tech, too. You can grab a DJ controller like the DDJ-FLX4 for under $500, toss it in a backpack, and you’re ready to rock a beach party. (You’re not going to lug CDJs to the beach unless you’re Carl Cox, right)?
Pioneer knows their CDJs will keep dominating the club scene. They also know the market is wider now than ever before, and the Opus Quad appeals to some of this wider reach. But they’re not sweating it when Denon drops something like the Prime 4+ with more features for less cash because they know their market. Clubs will still buy CDJs because they’re the standard. But if you’re DJing at a cafe, bar, or even from your living room, it’s great to have other options. For example, the Opus Quad is clearly designed for those beyond-the-club setups, offering a pro-level standalone unit at a lower price and complexity than CDJs.
It’s not about which product is “the best.” It’s about what works for you and where you’re playing. Competition is a good thing for all of us because it pushes everyone to step up their game. So, whether you’re all about Pioneer or digging what Denon’s doing, just be glad we’ve got choices. Without competition, the scene would be a lot less exciting.
Do you wanna write for us? Seriously though, thanks for the grown-up, there’s not much of that around here sometimes!
@@digitaldjtips Ha, thanks too. I appreciate what you do 🙏
What's up with all the hate folks? As an XZ user that knows the 3000's pretty well (but don't own em), this thing is freakin sweet! It's basically a bridge to a 900/3000 setup at 1/3 the price. Everything possible on the XZ pads is possible on this device. If you're missing a feature super bad (like gate cue's), plug in your laptop and do it through there. Still don't have a feature you want and feel like complaining about price? Buy a cheap midi controller and map it to any effect you want in rekordbox. Want 2 more decks? Just buy a Xone K2 and map it. Sounds like everyone complaining either owns a Prime and doesn't know otherwise or is comparing this to the XZ instead of a full 900/3000 setup. This deck will help aspiring DJ's practice for the big show equipment at a fraction of the price. And it's not faux wood. Maybe faux copper, but it's clearly not wood. It's fluted metal casing. If you don't like it, mask and paint. Great work innovating Pioneer! XY touch effects are DOPE and ya'll just got 3 times the effects with that since most effects are split between high pass, low pass, band pass, etc. Now you get all three under each effect. Chill folks. This thing is sweet!
And if you want mobius, just plug the laptop in. map a button to it and hide the compute underneath the table. But most producers I know play with a laptop open. If you're not using the Perform mode and ableton link, maybe your passing up say... 80% of the capabilities. Just maybe.
It's actually brown plastic on the sides. Looks good though, if you like that kinda thing :)
Great features and new standards set. These new standards however will make it difficult to use as club standard. As a club DJ I would not accept huge changes in button layout. It would delay my act. I really look forward to a cheaper XDJ-XZ version standalone. Looking forward to an XY touch display for effects on a DJM 750 MkIII. Also, aesthetically, this is quite old-fashioned and kitsch (not vintage!). Reminds me of Atari 2600 gaming console from the 80s!... Maybe fit to sit on a fancy table-cloth at a wedding reception!...😆
This won't be replacing club kit any time soon. Indeed, we expect an XDJ-XZ2.
great review as always! I cant wait to get my hands on one
Hope you enjoy it when you do!
Good to see Pioneer get this out. My opinion is, It feels like they are trying to compete with Denon but haven't quite got there. They made it look cool and have 5 screens but just fell short. I'm sure it will get better with updates but it may be a low priority compared to their other units. However I would like the 2 extra displays on my Prime 4 :)
We get the feeling this isn't a low priority for them...
@@digitaldjtips Ohh that's good then 😀
Fell short with what?
Only thing I saw different. Was the prime came out the box with streaming capabilities
Denon has nothing to worry about as long as Pioneer keeps doing units like this.
That cost wow. I'll wait for the Prime 4+
Great review as always👏
Thanks again!
All we wanted was an XZ2 lol with that 10.1 inch main screen lol but now we got the Espresso DJ controller (still looks cool but I am never getting rid of my prime 4 lol)
Lots of people asking for that!
All electronics have CPUs. Certainly their previous standalone mixers. The question is precisely what kind of CPU, and how well the software is optimized for it.
Made me laugh when he said it's got a CPU and is powered by a computer, like its something new lol
you know what we meant.
@@digitaldjtips My digital Casio watch from the 80's had a CPU inside 😂
@@MrLarma so have humans, most don't understand how to use it.
@@digitaldjtips I think it’s an opportunity for you to push OEMs for more specificity in which components they’re using. There’s a big difference between ARM and Intel MacBooks, for example, and having that same information for standalone mixers is a bar we should be raising with DJ vendors imho.
Cool specs on paper but they really bombed the look.
It's definitely dividing people.
I can definitely see this technology trickling down to the next XZ & RX units.
I think that's more exciting
Indeed!
All Denon has to do is do a software update to add most of the features that pioneer adds (Digital effects, algorithm, playlist,…). The price is not for mobile DJs, club DJs or anyone who’s a hobbies. I’m not sure what they were thinking pricing it at $3000+. The look of the unit is also not that appealing, at least to me.
I purchased a Prime 4 several years ago, and yes I do wish the jog wheels where bigger but that’s about it. So far Denon is the winner in my view.
Thanks for sharing Arash!
Great review. Looks like a fancy art-deco; very new, the curvature on the front, very uncanny presentation for Pioneer, but different. Hopefully this makes folks try to short sale their XZ so I can finally have one for myself. Lol 😂
Spoken like an entrepreneur, Scott!
In an up market bar in central London this would look the part👀
Indeed.
To be honest I was expecting something like this, at the moment I don’t have any standalone controller , because I just sold my XDXZ, so I already ordered 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
What a mistake that is!
@Mikey Bravo Some people forget to think i guess, but hey if he's happy its allright i guess. Pioneer is happy as well...
@@Klootviooltje maybe anyone can do what he wants... ? I also just LOVE this unit...
We think you'll enjoy it.
@@Klootviooltje how sad you’re commenting on someones decision. You have no idea if he might find it perfect or wants to throw his money at a stripper for all he wants. I wouldnt buy it but hating like this in ytube comments is something else😂
the Denon effect!!! and im sure you all will find a way to make it seem better than the Prime4 lol
It's exactly what I have been waiting for my only problem is the naff copper styling but I'm just being picky. Love the rest of the styling and this is def a unit that would fit in at my house. Plug my 2 turntables in and I'm in heaven. SO SIGN ME UP FOR ONE!
Thanks Stan!
You can pick up a S11 x2 Rane 12's for the price of that thing, most of us already have a laptop so.
If they kept the price closer to the XDJ-XZ would have been killer(apart from the Fisher Price Wood aesthetic) but Pioneer Taxxing you and extra Grand, really?
Arguably you're paying the extra grand for the computer inside.
Well I just died and went to dj heaven. I've been waiting for this for years as a matter of fact I almost left pioneer for denon a couple of years ago...glad I didn't. ALL GOOD THINGS COMES TO THOSE THAT WAIT.😊
Looks like you're happy! 🤣
Great bridge to unite CDJ and controller DJs in the same booth.
Yes indeed!
Waaay too expensive for the things it has (and hasn't). I don't want to know how much the XZ2 gonna cost.
A nice toy for Paris Hilton DJs, I guess.
What features do you think are missing, ImpactSpace?
@@digitaldjtips stems
@@digitaldjtips Several things even a $1300 Live 4 can deliver (proper 4 waveform view, lighting/dmx, ableton link...), but even the basics you mentioned, like an SD slot to keep your music in a safe space, the slip mode, loop roll, proper jog displays, proper multipurpose performance pads BELOW the jogwheel, the track skip buttons are at a bad place, I miss the master EQ hardware controls, those things manly. It looks kinda sexy, but 3000+ bucks, no way... btw, thanks again Phil for your great video!
At that price it also should have serviceable faders… I don‘t want to speak about Magvel… this is not a professional devices imho
@@ImpactSpace With that big touch screen, and the usb3 and/or link on the back . I think Pioneer DJ will be able to sell you a lighting control subscription upgrade in the future if they wanted too
I absolutely love the aesthetic on this unit. It's easily the sleekest looking bit of DJ gear ever made imo. Pioneer have always won the beauty contest though. The Prime 4, while I think is still gonna be the MVP in the 4 channel standalone category, is a bit ugly in comparison.
I don't really see the point of the little screens on each deck. They will be useful when mixing on all four decks, but there's enough room on that main screen to do the four wavelength columns. At that price I would expect performance pads and, like you said, Phil, some other features like SD card slots and slip mode.
That X/Y effects controller is nice! Bravo Pioneer.
That price is crazy though. As expected from Pioneer, but damn why did it have to look so good. It's like a retro games console. I never had an Atari 2600 (too young) but I love that aesthetic. I need this unit just decorate my room. I wonder if pioneer will sell me just the outer casing?
I think they will add Slip mode, it can be a Shift + Slip reverse function easily enough.
24:53 @digitaldjtips Auto Cue means the system will automatically detect the beginning of the track depending on dB, so Auto Cue Level is how sensitive you want it to be. If you set it louder (towards 0 dB) it will most likely set cue at the first kick of the track.
Memory Cue is the cue point you set advance in Rekordbox, or while playing.
Very expensive for what it is. Honestly, are people booking a DJ with what he's playing music on. Do they take selfies and drool over the latest bit of kit?
Why do people take photos of other peoples cars?
People do judge DJs by their kit, rightly or wrongly.
It’s awesome and funny at the same time. I’ve been obsessed with a 4-channel xdj release for years, having owned the RX and RX2 (both of which I absolutely loved)! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Im willing to spend a big more for an at home setup with a 4 deck option. I will say that I’m disappointed that most of the effects functions are triggered I screen (as I understand it atm) and which it had more of a standard mixer performance setup. Just my OP though. Great work on Pioneers’ behalf and I hope this leads to more promising gear in the future. Great video review!
Glad the video helped Brian
would of loved to see performance pads instead of the extra screens. i need that slip loop looool
Easy enough to add if they'd just add slip.
What an incredible looking piece of kit. You can’t compare the denon to this.
Some love it, some hate it!
PioneerDJ is delusional if they really believe this is really aimed at mobile DJs, and missing all the things mobile DJs want and would use in a stand alone. No pad modes, no sampler, no slip mode, no video out (boasting an internal cpu but can't offer an HDMI out, many mobile DJs use & want video, yet you keep missing that point, but it's for mobile DJs. Who does your research?). But the price is through the roof as usual. look, I don't doubt DJs mind paying as long as it meets their needs, but honestly this doesn't, so mobile DJs on a whole will leave this alone, cause it's not enough to make them put down their favorite controller and laptop. Nice application of the XY effects though. As usual the 1% that can afford it will buy it, but not who you say outwardly it's for, as PioneerDJ is known for and demostrated time & again when it comes to these "high end" units. This ain't even gonna scratch farless dent the Prime 4 market. The SC Live units are more useful to mobile DJs than this, onboard speakers and all, and they are more affordable than the Prime 4, realistically speaking.
Interesting... I guess sales will tell.
10 months after the release Opus is sold out or at least you need to be in a waiting list some weeks/months to get one.
As a Prime 4 owner. I absolutely love some of the features on this Opus. The Prime would be so much better with the Bluetooth option like this and the XY touch control of effects. Having the extra utility menu tabs to control more is really great too. Obviously this is still in development and I imagine it will follow a lot of the primes upgrades (4 waveforms, sampler etc…) but its soooo ugly and I think that will put a lot of people off plus the under jog hotkeys, SD slots, internal slot and the price.
You should check out the end of the promo video for Engine dj 3.0, looks like X/Y pad effects are coming to the prime units.
Was going to say, X/Y would be easy enough to add to Engine DJ. This is turning back into a software game...
It is pretty damm ugly wtf 🤬 were they thinking
The Prime4 does actually have Bluetooth inside it. Its just not enabled yet. Im sure they will at some point.
I love the setting for muting mic in recording, wish prime had that, at least I haven't found it if it does.
Watching this still as i comment . I totally hate the shape of this thing ! - can’t imagine taking this to a wedding . The all black and orange is hideous i think . I was sure hoping for something much different . I have Rane 4 notification by email when it’s available. I really love the smooth echo button ❤
Hopefully not too long
For the 1st time Pionner have a true all-in-one with 4 channels.
A serious competitor to the Denon Prime 4, lacking some capabilities that can be overcome through firmware.
The new design is quite interesting, but could be an obstacle for the more conservative. Personally I like it.
Expensive. True. It costs the price of a CDJ 3000.
Is it worth spending so much money? I think it's actually always a personal question.
It certainly won't be for all DJs, but it will conquer its place in the market.
Think you're right.
Just wow
Take it you're impressed?
@@digitaldjtips yesI hope odyssey makes a case for this soon
The xy beat fx is straight from the RZX 👍🏼
Nothing is new in this world... 😉
Good day, I read a lot about the fact that Denon is a bedroom dj device and the pioneer the professional dj device is... I play about 2 weddings/parties a weekend in the Netherlands with a Denon Prime 4....it sounds good, it feels good and I work with it with more than pleasure.... when it came out, Pioneer wasn't nearly as far along... and even now the Opus is still lagging behind... no streaming services (yet), no DMX standalone etc etc..... they were able to cheat at Denon for 4 years... and then the price...... Have a nice day
We have Prime 4 down squarely as a mobile DJ's dream unit. we wouldn't call that a bedroom device at all.
I would definitely like pioneer to incorporate a reverse crossfader. I use this feature when I’m scratching. It just works better for me personally.
You can achieve this with the crossfader assign buttons.
Quite great, but such a shame it won't work with Traktor, NI and Pioneer really need to open that door up already
Or close it definitely. The way Pioneer is working on in high level products is to remove laptops from DJ booths. You can say thanks because at least you have the sync bottom! I guess it's always on.
I think everybody is overlooking the purpose of this unit - its perfect for a bar or a small venue with multiple Djs - some on Sticks or on Laptop with RB or Serato, I would install it in my Bar for sure - the look - some like it some not - I think its nice
Yup, pro mobile DJs plus boutique venues - that's our thoughts too.
I think staying in the Rekordbox Ecosystem is crucial for working pros. Especially those that want a standalone that they can bring to private bookings and any time spent building libraries, analyzing files, etc. is all ready for the club/festival. The X Y effects on the mixer Pre-dates any app on the iPad. Years ago Korg had a 2 channel and a 4 channel mixer with the Korg Kaossilator built in and it is so much fun doing effects this way. But you run into the same problem as the Korg, which is you get all excited with techniques you discover but don't have it available to use at some of your best gigs. But I agree with others that the price should have been much cheaper if Denon can get their price that low.
The Rekordbox ecosystem is definitely a big plus for Pioneer DJs, as you say.
Looks better thought out than the bitter disappointment aka prime 4.
Still not sure why there’s not a standalone that runs serato. An HDMI out for external monitor is also missing WHY 😭
It's nice. Just wish it was bigger!
Are you joking? It's huge!
It’s pretty, innovative and everything I wanted 2 years ago. Then they brought out the Rev7. Lol. But seriously it’s great.
Rev7 is pretty cool too :)
Can we now say the Prime4 is the All-in-One 4Decks ClubStandard unit ? 🤷♂️
Well explained....I do agree it have cool features but they skimp out on features it should have like a sampler SD slot SSD slot that's interchangeable or maybe 2 SSD slots for dubbing/backup exc.....a USB rec display to let you know how much space is used and how much is left while recording for that kind of money it really should have more.....
thanks for sharing your thoughts, some good feature ideas there.
Nice Gemini product from Pioneer Dj 😏
This is, take it from us, nothing like a Gemini product.
@@digitaldjtipsit was sarcasm
Finally a controller for adults.
It looks futuristic whilst looking like an antique. I'm not a fan of the design and it doesn't look suitable for mobile use. I think you were spot on when you mentioned it's like a piece of furniture, something for a DJ's front room maybe rather than a robotic CDJ set up.
Will certainly suit some venues more than others.
April fools day is early this year
As a bedroom DJ I'm definitely not looking forward to a 3.3K 4 channel mixer that looks ugly and feels weird, even the RR is more appealing to me.
Thanks for the great review. I didn't hear any mention of DVS. Does this unit support DVS like the XZ?
It's the Pioneer Prime Four! Four years late, with less features, basically double the price tag and strange looking jogs. I also heard that Denon is releasing a Prime 4+ that will stream directly from Amazon music. The only people I could imagine this appealing to would be those that wanted a Prime Four but didn't buy it because it was not a Pioneer product. Maybe also a DJ whose wife is complaining about how the DJ gear looks in the house (Do we really need a DJ set up in the living room? Of course we do...), this looks a little, neater, I guess. Not for me (prefer the CDJs) but I am sure it will sell boatloads since it is Pioneer.
Agree, nothing wrong with DJ gear in the living room...
Exactly 💯
This thing is not pretty, but it's growing on me, visually. Finally a departure from standard Pioneer, I can only appreciate the boldness, the minimalistic classy retro look is awesome. Just need some black marble cover on the jogs to go the extra mile lmao. The rest of essential features like automatic track analysis will come after i'm sure, what's the point of the cpu if not.
It is 100% coming
Seems aimed at Elite clubs and the like, where the Porches and Audi's are parked by a valet.
Could be!
This is a huge let down. Missing a lot of key features that aren't even mentioned.
I was going to go all in on an Xdj xz 2.
Now I'll wait for Demon's answer.
Like what Billy?
@@digitaldjtips the performance pads there's no serato pitch n time which is huge.
The performance pads are a big one for me. Everything else seems to be on par with whatever's out there once they fix all the issues with getting all the features to work
Man loves James hype
Dig it, hard to resist buying. It's about time someone at least changed the basic box design.
Looks like you're tempted!
Still no SD card, a risk of having your flash drive or hd nicked when you go to the toilet.
We think it should have had an SD card slot too.
If I choose this pioneer I have Denon to thank for pushing the new
Engine DJ has definitely been the main innovator in this area up to now.
no performance pads....
I like Djay because it has suggested songs feature. Huuuge help when DJing on the fly
I orderd mein yesterday❤
Bet you can't wait!
Yess but on website is delivey date unknow 🙃🙃
Insane!!
I can’t get past the price, i don’t mind the look of it but in terms of features prime 4 wins is less expensive and has longevity due to consistent updates. The couple of features the opus has Denon could replicate. That said Pioneer stepping out and doing something different is commendable the rev 7 as another example
you're not alone there.
@@digitaldjtips in my opinion i the true stand alone battle will the updated XZ and Denons full update to the prime 4 the opus is not intended to be the flagship standalone for pioneer it is as much a software battle as it is hardware so see what happens in a few months
Can we talk about how there’s ZERO pioneer branding on this thing?? Wild choice; feels appropriate for the design but very strange marketing choice. Anyone have insight into why they might have gone this route?
Note I love it - I cover all the branding on my gear - but it’s novel and very peculiar.
There is, just a little logo top of main screen.
i like the the smooth echo and the temp cue button controlling the hot cue. i always wondered why manufacture never did this. well i am wondering no more
Looks like they've made your day!
About f**king time Pioneer! About f**king time! Proper standalone 4 channel. Take my money!
Still a shame that Pioneer high-end mixers still won't allow FX being assigned to multiple decks of choice. It's a nice feature in RekordBox software that I have been using for the past 2 years.
Hmmm, interesting point - guess it would make it too difficult to use?
@@digitaldjtips On the older units with FX deck selector switches: I was told on the Pioneer forum that it had to do with how the FX bus routing was designed within the audio interface on the mixers and standalone-controllers. But with the new touch-screen interface for FX deck selector. I think they could add some functionality such as holding SHIFT allow you add or subtract the deck to the FX bus.
This can be useful let say you got a backing track for the kicks, hats and snares on deck 1, and melody and vocal on deck 2 and 3 and you want FX (echo/reverb) only on deck 2 and 3 so the backing track on deck 1 doesn't get the FX's.
Ouch, just the price alone is eye-watering...I'mm currently using a Numark Mixtrack pro, having been dragged kicking & screaming away from vinyl..!!!
I'v been DJ-ing for over 30 years and refused to go digital..till last year. I've mastered the Numark now, so looking to upgrade this year...I only reason why i'd consider Pioneer, is the 'club' aspect, I play mostly Jungle, Drum & Bass, Breakbeat & Hardcore and every club/gig I go to, they have Pioneer...
I think i'll look at the Denon though just on cost and features...
BTW, I've always been a rogue, an outlier etc...
Remember back in the day? Intel vs AMD....
I went with AMD, stuck with them...and look at them now...
Nice unit Pioneer, but that price tag??
Artist/Producer/Pro_DJ money...ouch
Most DJ's arent Tiesto or Carl Cox...
However, there are an awful lot of affluent hobbyists out there. Reckon it's targeting them as much as anyone?
@@digitaldjtips Yes, there is a lot of disposable income out there, will be interesting to see where it goes.
I’m really on the fence about upgrading to this but why no streaming services , no sampler , no slip mode , and ….. no stems for 3500 dollars ?!? No SD CARDS ??? I’m so confused. It seems I have no choice but to wait or go with the prime 4 plus. I had the prime 4 and didn’t love it. Sold it. It’s far improved in the last couple years especially on the plus. But man what a bummer this doesn’t have all the things …. And when the hell are we getting motorized fully standalone ???? How many years are they gonna drag out these tiny incremental upgrades ?
Slip mode is a really poor omission, there's even a button that could be used. We agree with that. Sampler, streaming - many DJs would take or leave these things.
I think a lot of these are going to sell. Over the past week the amount of XDJ-XZ that went for sale multiplied! There was 2 available within 50 miles and now there’s like 12. And the prices are crashing on xz’s. I ordered one and it should be here march 24. I DJ at bars and private parties and my other platform is djm-a9 or V10 and Cdj-3000’s. Just depends on the event I’m doing. Can’t wait to try this out and report back to you.
I think you're right!
Double the price of Prime 4
But they finally did a complete job
Even the name is new and different
Looks like an #RX3 & #Prime4 had an affair and this is their baby
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Yes, the really interesting thing here is that it is apparently a complete new "product line".
@@digitaldjtips suggesting they will perhaps have other devices that share this design language like opus dual, or opus one media player. I like that could replace the XDJ line!