@@johnmarston421 No why should he lol. As long as it makes money and people love it he will keep it going, that's why elseworlds exist. He din't have to greenlight the second movie, but he did. He's a filmmaker and respects Matt Reeves vision
@@johnmarston421 Gunn didn't do anything with Joker 2. That movie was completely in the control of Todd Phillips. The whole point of Elseworlds was that directors could create movies based on DC characters without any interference.
"I must choose my targets carefully. It's a big city. I can't be everywhere. But they don't know where I am." I try using this as the reason for him not showing up, but you'd think with that many murders, he would. On the other hand, perhaps he views it as the various gangs doing his work for him As well, correct me if I'm wrong, Crown Point is part of The Eastside, which is across the river from Gotham. That would make it the equivalent of New Jersey being across the Hudson from New York. Maybe Batman just doesn't have the capabilities, currently, to keep tabs of goings on outside of Gotham. Or if currently he has more important targets than The Penguin Hopefully it's addressed by the finale, before The Batman II, or at the beginning of The Batman II
@@gohabs8918i definitely agree with everything, i believe myself too that batman does know about this whole penguin and sofia situation thats going on but is watching behind the scenes but in batman 2 im hoping he definitely mentions and addresses it all
@@whitemamba061after this recent episode with the tunnel collapsing, people needing help and his bat cave being somewhat connected, it’s pretty much impossible to believe he wouldn’t show up
Yeah… I kinda wished they would’ve mentioned him in passing or something because they mentioned the riddler on multiple occasions, especially since he was a big part of falcones death and penguin had that run in with him
Didnt ask for much. Just a cameo of the batmobile, a batarang, a message, someone just fricking mention him by name and not actively avoiding him like it was on purpose.
@@david9243 Maybe he’s recovering from his injuries from the events of the first film? However, I think there’s no mention of him at all. It’s so strange.
It wouldnt be bad if he didnt hype himself up so much in that opening monologue😅. Now it seems like the only people who fear him are petty thieves,and kids being rambunctious lol. Even the low level street guys didnt seem concerned about being outside selling Penguins product. Which begs the question,why did Gordon build that bat signal for a low level vigilante. Those guys wearing hockey pads in the Nolan films couldve made this kindve impact. Batman is basically as feared as any other regular cop😅.
Just like in the Joker comic, batman is a looming presence in the background during the entire story. Joker knows he's there and watches him, but he knows its something he cant intervene with.
So Batman just casually watched Joker molest a woman!!! Damn... I recall that comic being pretty edgy overall, unless I'm thinking of a differant comic.
I would be very hppy if just ONE scene, if you look in the background at the right moment, you could see Batman perched up high and just watching from the darkness.
Yeah exactly I really don’t need to see him. In fact I prefer we don’t see him because I feel like it would just feel like a cameo for the sake of a cameo. BUT I do want to be reminded that this is the same universe constantly. I want it to feel like the movie and not just the sopranos with the penguin in it.
thats right i agree. Same as ppl who asks Darth Vader tv show that they need to see and not realising that they have 6 part movie star wars thats all about him.
@@nuttproductions461 Sofia just started a new family recently and penguin barely established a base. I think it's too soon for Batman yet. Once the series ends and one of them gets control of drugs, i can picture a nod in the Batman 2. That's at least my opinion anyway.
@@supernerd8527 for people reading this, if you are not a lifeless nerd and just wanna watch a movie, i recommend the Batman, pretty good, you'll get a good time😉
I watched The Batman (2022) 6 times in cinemas, couldn't get enough of it... Can't wait for The Penguin of course but especially can't wait for The Batman 2 in hopefully less than two years... MATT REEVES is such a cool wholehearted guy, can't wait for that man to hone in on that one next project
@@jackbauer5455 Haha, I know it sounds ridiculous but I couldn't get enough of it.... I don't know if it was the black/orange sundowns I kept wanting to come back to in IMAX or if it was the score (The Batman increasingly chasing down Penguin in that car scene to that music triples my pulse even just thinking about it) or if it was the murder mystery of it all, it was just so immersive and something about the tone that enthralled the deepest part of me like few movies before it or since have
Batman 2 is going to be compared to The Dark Knight soo reeves has to hit this outta the park …it has to be freeze or maybe calendar man or one of my favorite the ventriloquist.
"I can't be everywhere, it's a big city." - Batman 2022. I'm pretty sure Penguin is slippery enough to evade Batman, and to avoid past mistakes like he did in the movie.
Do you know anything about Batman, penguin is not slipping through that man’s fingers. He literally had seven interactions with him in the movie and was able to find him extremely easily whenever he wanted. I honestly am scared this is just bad writing and Matt reeves being delusional
@@willlamark8694As he said, he can’t be everywhere at once and that he said “I need to choose my targets carefully.” Meaning he can only focus on one thing at a time as anyone really can. Yes in the comics or animated series he keeps tabs on EVERYONE but live action that’s impossible
Batman himself in the movie said that he can't be everywhere at once and that is why he uses his Bat Signal as a symbol of fear. You don't know if you'll be the unlucky one that he comes for. I always think of Batman as someone who is monitoring who he perceives as the greater threat at that moment. If The Joker were knocking off jewelry stores but nobody dies, then he focuses his attention on someone else like The Riddler, who is harassing some political figures and IS out there killing people. Batman will give him precedence over all the others. Batman is not Spider Man. He's not going to run around dealing with two-bit thugs committing lowly criminal acts. That is for the job for the GCPD to control.
I mean I LOVED the show and I'm not the guy to say Batman MUST have showed up or something like that, but I think it's a little strange not even one reference to his figure. The guy entered the Iceberg Club, scaried Oz and was seen with Falcone when he was shot. I think its fair to say "how the hell he wasnt even referenced, even on the news or type shit". Anyway, love Matt and the universe but theres no wrong in being critical.
Matt Reeves gets it! Period! Was so skeptical at first because of the Nolan trilogy but I AM A FAN of his vision of The Batman! Thank you Matt Reeves! Thank you!
Soo good to have Matt reeves and the cast ect back to talk about this ‘Bat-Verse’ they’ve created … could listen to reeves talk about it all and his way of approaching this all day 😂
I understand him not physically being in the show, but there should be some mentions about the vigilante or the bat by citizens or the news just to bring more life to the show.
The show didn't need Batman. Penguin had his run in with Bats in the first film and he'll butt heads with him in the second film too. Or maybe a second series. Or both. You might as well ask why we didn't see Robin, Nightwing, Superman, Wonder Woman or Flash. This isn't that story. This is a recipe for making Oswald Cobb. The oven just went PING!]
@@trevorberridge6079 imagine if they did have scenes of oz being scared of the bat through out. like hes going to his car but looking around and telling vic "always watch for the shadows kid!" i think that is really cheesy and im glad they didnt sprinkle little scenes like that in like some video game where it affects the immersion differently.
What would be better is if he speaks out to the batman in a dark alleyway or something, saying like “i know ur there, batman” but no response back and you see a slight hint of fear on Oz’s face
Bro I wish he would briefly show up, maybe in a slightly upgraded armor/padding to tease his suit evolution in the next movie, and further drive home his growth from the events of The Batman… It’s always a pleasure to see Rob as Batman, it sucks we won’t be seeing him until The Batman Part II in late 2026…… god forbid 2027, if it’s further pushed back for whatever reason. That would be 4-5 years without seeing him return as Batman… almost HALF (if not half) a DECADE… we could really use some in between appetizers to tide us over until then… if only.
I love that they want to keep Batman mysterious and mythical. If he were present regularly it'd just feel like "Well why didn't they do Batman tv show instead?" But it's so fitting and accurate to the comics for Batman to be out there but no one knows where. He could be monitoring all of Penguin's movements, plots, schemes, etc. But we'll never know until he strikes and that's why Reeves nails the movie and the tv show. He understands the source material and understands that fans will pick up on things that don't fit.
He sustained a lot of injuries at the end of the movie so it makes sense if he needs a rest. But also he had some realizations at the end psychologically. I'm confused as to why they don't at least talk about him. It seems like he kind of came out of the shadows in the movie and you think more people would be talking about a man dressed up like a bat🤷🏻♂️
I get where you're coming from but I feel like in that situation people will talk about the disaster more than someone dressed up as a bat at the disaster. Like 9/11 there are so many heros but when people who experienced 9/11 when it happened they would say similar stuff to what they're saying in the show most the time about how its tragic and how many people have been lost to it. I think we will get a brief mention of him eventually or atleast a little tease of him it just won't be Robert Pattinson it'll be a shot of his boots or cape or a shot of the bat signal to show that the batman is back now
Maybe Vic: "Oz do you think we'll be okay doing all these business out in the open with the batman lurking"? Criminals: "boss how about that crazy guy in the suit beating criminals, ive heard you met him once, do you think it will be a problem for this operation?" i dont know, they could have added something like that, but nothing at all
@@jerogomezrobledobruh… What the hell does the snyderverse have to do with it??? If he doesnt like it fine…. Btw he never said the snyderverse was any good 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️( and i love both snyderverse and reevesverse and im hyped for the new DCU)
Honestly, it’s weird that in this Batman crime saga universe, the Penguin will end up having more total screen time by the end of this series. The next two films would probably fix that by giving Batman more and Penguin less again total but that’ll be a while and that’s assuming he Mr. Reeves commits to trilogy.
That's a true director. He here's a building he wants to use is getting torn down and instead of worrying about wanting to use a new location, bro's first instinct is practical explosion
i don’t really need to SEE him, i just feel like it makes sense to have the criminals at least mention his existence, considering that the first 8 minutes of the batman established him as a force to be reckoned with
I wish they did show him, it would be very cool if we saw him from Penguin's perspective, this dark shadow just taking your guys one by one, they didn't even need to show his face or suit, i'd honestly just be happy with his presence in a scene alone.
I'm glad they didn't, it allowed me to even forget this is a spinoff of Batman and see the world of crime in Gotham and somewhat sympathize with people trying to survive but being the worst humans meanwhiel
What I wpuld love is for the final episode to be the culmination of the Penguin's plan. But it all goes Breaking Bad at the last second because Batman shows up and completely fucks up everything. You dont really see him but you hear him, Oz's goons go missing and his masterplan gets fucked up right at the end. The only time we see Batman is like some terrifying Exorcist 3 style jump scare following the characters around, just flashes here and there, Batman setting off traps and creating distractions. It goes south and its like Oz is being haunted by a ghost.
@@MaintenexLLC I think people are looking way deeper into what he said than what was intended... but I don't blame people, I want the court of owls too. I just don't think it's going to happen, sadly
@@MaintenexLLC I just think it was too vague what colson said to mean anything more than just what it turned out to be. I'll hold my hands up if they properly tease the court of owls in The Penguin show but if they don't do it in the show we definitely wont get them in the sequel film
It’s much better that they’re not making it about Batman. I like the idea of being in the street level with Penguin. I feel whenever the season finale is Oz will be be so powerful in the streets that Batman will have to intervene. At that point seeing him will make sense when it gets built up to that
I love that response, it was perfect. The idea of Batman should remain loke the boogieman since we are seeing from the point of view of street thugs. We dont need to see him but know he's there. I absolutely love what they have been doing with the show. This feels like Gotham.
It's so weird not having batman in the show considering the show takes place right after the movie. They don't even bother mentioning him. There's nothing heard about batman or Bruce Wayne. Where he is or what he's doing right now?
I mean I LOVED the show and I'm not the guy to say Batman MUST have showed up or something like that, but I think it's a little strange not even one reference to his figure. The guy entered the Iceberg Club, scaried Oz and was seen with Falcone when he was shot. I think its fair to say "how the hell he wasnt even referenced, even on the news or type shit". Anyway, love Matt and the universe but theres no wrong in being critical.
Honestly what I felt should have happened is that with these spin off shows between each season there should be appearances of Batman but as a looming background threat. When they did the chase scene in episode 1 it would have been cool to have the Batmobile crash into the people that were chasing Oz and he gets away. Little things like that will go a long way with fans I know it.
I think he is healing,he took a lot of damage especially towards the end so yeah,he may want to do something but his body may be in such a weak state so its better to stay put and recover.
Tbh I've always preferred it this way, when it feels more like a mob/crime/thriller than a superhero show. When Batman shows up in S2, I hope it's like The Nolan Dark Knight trilogy where he is portrayed more as a vigilante who fights terrorism than a "superhero"
I live to think he’s reanimating some of his methods and is building new and better tech to help in his crusade. Likewise, he could be getting more involved in Wayne Ent. because while the city does need a crime fighter, it also needs disaster relief and aid. Who better to find that than Gotham’s bet on Billionaire, Bruce Wayne?
That time in Gotham was all about the war between Falcone/Maroni. The time of The Long Halloween. Batman would be heavily involved, and Catwoman is Falcone's illegitimate daughter, so she would be there as well.
It would be cool if Batman actually does make an appearance....but we don't know it's him. With Matt Reeves finally letting us see the detective side of Batman on the big screen, this would be a great opportunity to see Batman's "Matches Malone" persona. Batman going undercover wearing disguises was some of the most compelling moments of Batman TAS. Imagine Oz's crew bring in a guy they think works for(or has information on) Sophia. They beat him up and interrogate him, then Oz has them take the guy's wallet and we see "Matches Malone" on his ID, to which Oz jokes "hey hey, fellas! Take it easy...leave em alone(Malone) huh hahahaha", "hey Matches....got a light 😂". Then after Oz reveals some info in passing during a conversation, the lights cut out, they scramble to get them back on and see all of Oz's guys are knocked out and Matches is gone.
I love this show because I ain't even thinking of Batman. I forget he exists and that how it would be everyday in Gotham. All they know is stories of a crazy vigilante from the news but everyone is just trying to survive so the bat guy isn't what people think about. It's will I be a statistic in this world run by druglords and corrupt politicians. There's no "superman" in the sky to protect me when I find myself in a dark alley. Just myself watching over my shoulder trying to get home at night.
I’m ok with the idea of him not showing up but at least light that symbol in the sky show us how feared Batman is for the underground of Gothman through the villains perspectives it would make us understand better the villains and build them further for Part 2
They should have atleast had him hidden/doing surveillance on rooftops a couple of times throughout the show, just to show us that he’s still out there watching
This is another interesting dynamic, I guarantee for a fact that maybe that tv series of the penguin without the Batman it’s gonna last 1 one season. Same as the Joker 2 movie but less stringent as basically the Joker 🃏 its legacy it’s cemented with Batman there like Yin and yang ☯️ BUT in the penguin topic maybe they can get away with taking out the element of the Batman on one season or 2 but that’s not gonna last.
Batman chased the fuck out of penguin and penguin doesn't even mention him once like seriously not even a single criminal think twice before commiting any crime about baman. Its such a lazy writing batman should be a dark force in the background
Matt Reeves´s version of Gotham is absolutely perfect, even i really still think that the best version of Gotham is Tim Burton´s. Can´t wait to see this tv show and the sequel to The Batman !
Do you know the comics have actually done this before there was a story called Gotham Central and it was a Batman story from commissioner Gordon and the GCPD point of view for Batman was like in the shadows hardly ever seen he was still taking down the bad guys but he was hardly seen in that story arc and it was just from the opinions and the perspective of the GCPD really good book really good storyline
My question is is they are allowed yo use batman if they really wanted to. The show Gotham literally how to fight for Batman to have a bat logo on his chest for the final, Arrow was planed to be a Batman show but they weren't allowed to use Batman, so I'm just curious if they're allowed to use Batman
I understand the lack of Batman in the show, ofc he can't be everywhere and it's better that way imo. But, I really hoped that the characters in the show would acknowledge his existence one or the other way. afraid, thinking he might be out there. even if for a small moment. would've been so effin good!
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Matt Reeves seems like such a chill guy, but at the same time talks so passionately about The Batman and this world. Glad it's in his hands right now
Sadly James gunn will take it away anytime. Let's enjoy it for now.
@@johnmarston421 No why should he lol. As long as it makes money and people love it he will keep it going, that's why elseworlds exist. He din't have to greenlight the second movie, but he did. He's a filmmaker and respects Matt Reeves vision
@@adi_movic hate to say it but gunn already put his hands on Joker 2, i asure you it's not good news.
@@johnmarston421 Gunn didn't do anything with Joker 2. That movie was completely in the control of Todd Phillips. The whole point of Elseworlds was that directors could create movies based on DC characters without any interference.
@@riakriak7270 sure keep telling yourself that
"They don't know where I am. They think I'm hiding in the shadows...
But I am the shadows"
"I must choose my targets carefully. It's a big city. I can't be everywhere. But they don't know where I am."
I try using this as the reason for him not showing up, but you'd think with that many murders, he would. On the other hand, perhaps he views it as the various gangs doing his work for him
As well, correct me if I'm wrong, Crown Point is part of The Eastside, which is across the river from Gotham. That would make it the equivalent of New Jersey being across the Hudson from New York. Maybe Batman just doesn't have the capabilities, currently, to keep tabs of goings on outside of Gotham. Or if currently he has more important targets than The Penguin
Hopefully it's addressed by the finale, before The Batman II, or at the beginning of The Batman II
@@gohabs8918i definitely agree with everything, i believe myself too that batman does know about this whole penguin and sofia situation thats going on but is watching behind the scenes but in batman 2 im hoping he definitely mentions and addresses it all
@@whitemamba061after this recent episode with the tunnel collapsing, people needing help and his bat cave being somewhat connected, it’s pretty much impossible to believe he wouldn’t show up
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Matt Reeves looks like commissioner Gordon
He does! 😂
@Robin-q1c you are literally watching a Batman video you can't call someone a nerd if you are using it as a insult
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Emaciated Gordon 😢
@Robin-q1c That's why we're all watching this show..
I wish he had at least one scene just so you could see what he looks like from the Mobster's POV.
Just a black demon coming at you.
Yeaaahh! Like Daredevil in Echo ( which had perfect execution ) Big opportunity missed with this 🙂↔️,😔.
Watch the first 10 minutes of the batman
@Speednut5016 Nah, I think it's better not to see him. Otherwise, it would just feel like a cameo.
What a missed opportunity
they could also just be lying, and he is in there but they dont want to spoil it lol
It's not that he is not showing up in the series, it's that no one even acknowledges his presence in the city. Having said that, the show is amazing!
Yeah… I kinda wished they would’ve mentioned him in passing or something because they mentioned the riddler on multiple occasions, especially since he was a big part of falcones death and penguin had that run in with him
@@rebelfriend8817 Exactly my thoughts
Didnt ask for much. Just a cameo of the batmobile, a batarang, a message, someone just fricking mention him by name and not actively avoiding him like it was on purpose.
@@david9243 Maybe he’s recovering from his injuries from the events of the first film?
However, I think there’s no mention of him at all. It’s so strange.
It wouldnt be bad if he didnt hype himself up so much in that opening monologue😅. Now it seems like the only people who fear him are petty thieves,and kids being rambunctious lol. Even the low level street guys didnt seem concerned about being outside selling Penguins product. Which begs the question,why did Gordon build that bat signal for a low level vigilante. Those guys wearing hockey pads in the Nolan films couldve made this kindve impact. Batman is basically as feared as any other regular cop😅.
Just like in the Joker comic, batman is a looming presence in the background during the entire story. Joker knows he's there and watches him, but he knows its something he cant intervene with.
Yeah it's just like that joker comic
Which comic is that
@@thoththeatlantean1226 joker 2008 great story and art
@thoththeatlantean1226 Actually, there is a motion comic here on youtube. Just look up "joker motion comic" and it'll pop up
So Batman just casually watched Joker molest a woman!!! Damn... I recall that comic being pretty edgy overall, unless I'm thinking of a differant comic.
I would be very hppy if just ONE scene, if you look in the background at the right moment, you could see Batman perched up high and just watching from the darkness.
Mann that would be cool af
They would need Fiege permission
@@CSM.HBJ-Doggwhy the hell would they need Feige's permission lol
@@Joviaero Disney owns Batman TV rights
@@CSM.HBJ-Dogg that's not even true, it was a false rumor. Look it up.
Maybe there's no Batman. But they have to light up the sky with the signal now and then at least.
Yeah exactly I really don’t need to see him. In fact I prefer we don’t see him because I feel like it would just feel like a cameo for the sake of a cameo. BUT I do want to be reminded that this is the same universe constantly. I want it to feel like the movie and not just the sopranos with the penguin in it.
@dawsonbeck8763 They should also react to it. Would be cool to see the criminals start to freak out and make mistakes when the light hits the sky.
He’s probably training locked up in the league of shadows
It won’t happen….
@@dawsonbeck8763 I REALLY feel this comment. You've got a great point.
For people not getting it, there's a movie called "The Batman". Batman makes a 3 hour long cameo, i'll recomend go and watch it.
Exactly
This is the Penguin
Wrong animal how are ppl not getting it
Bats don't swim
thats right i agree. Same as ppl who asks Darth Vader tv show that they need to see and not realising that they have 6 part movie star wars thats all about him.
I recommend to pass it off. Not worth 3 hours of precious time! 😂
@@nuttproductions461 Sofia just started a new family recently and penguin barely established a base. I think it's too soon for Batman yet. Once the series ends and one of them gets control of drugs, i can picture a nod in the Batman 2. That's at least my opinion anyway.
@@supernerd8527 for people reading this, if you are not a lifeless nerd and just wanna watch a movie, i recommend the Batman, pretty good, you'll get a good time😉
I watched The Batman (2022) 6 times in cinemas, couldn't get enough of it... Can't wait for The Penguin of course but especially can't wait for The Batman 2 in hopefully less than two years... MATT REEVES is such a cool wholehearted guy, can't wait for that man to hone in on that one next project
I’m just as excited as you are.
6 times in cinema? That's a bit excessive in my opinion I almost feel asleep in the first movie but to each their own I guess.
@@jackbauer5455 Haha, I know it sounds ridiculous but I couldn't get enough of it.... I don't know if it was the black/orange sundowns I kept wanting to come back to in IMAX or if it was the score (The Batman increasingly chasing down Penguin in that car scene to that music triples my pulse even just thinking about it) or if it was the murder mystery of it all, it was just so immersive and something about the tone that enthralled the deepest part of me like few movies before it or since have
Batman 2 is going to be compared to The Dark Knight soo reeves has to hit this outta the park …it has to be freeze or maybe calendar man or one of my favorite the ventriloquist.
I hope its like 4 hours
"I can't be everywhere, it's a big city." - Batman 2022. I'm pretty sure Penguin is slippery enough to evade Batman, and to avoid past mistakes like he did in the movie.
Do you know anything about Batman, penguin is not slipping through that man’s fingers. He literally had seven interactions with him in the movie and was able to find him extremely easily whenever he wanted. I honestly am scared this is just bad writing and Matt reeves being delusional
@@willlamark8694 Ummm... You were saying?
@@willlamark8694 they could cover it up by saying that batman was busier frying bigger fish, like the joker blowing up a city or something.
@@willlamark8694As he said, he can’t be everywhere at once and that he said “I need to choose my targets carefully.” Meaning he can only focus on one thing at a time as anyone really can. Yes in the comics or animated series he keeps tabs on EVERYONE but live action that’s impossible
the city is flooded and crime is at an all time high. i don’t think batman has time to deal with head crime families infighting.
Fans should stop insisting on the hero always showing up in every spinoff. If he did, we’d get burned out on Batman by the time his next movie came.
It’s one spinoff in the universe
I just wanted him to get even mentioned
Yeah i dont want him in there. Just to be reminded he exists and they are aware.
Batman himself in the movie said that he can't be everywhere at once and that is why he uses his Bat Signal as a symbol of fear. You don't know if you'll be the unlucky one that he comes for. I always think of Batman as someone who is monitoring who he perceives as the greater threat at that moment. If The Joker were knocking off jewelry stores but nobody dies, then he focuses his attention on someone else like The Riddler, who is harassing some political figures and IS out there killing people. Batman will give him precedence over all the others.
Batman is not Spider Man. He's not going to run around dealing with two-bit thugs committing lowly criminal acts. That is for the job for the GCPD to control.
I mean I LOVED the show and I'm not the guy to say Batman MUST have showed up or something like that, but I think it's a little strange not even one reference to his figure. The guy entered the Iceberg Club, scaried Oz and was seen with Falcone when he was shot. I think its fair to say "how the hell he wasnt even referenced, even on the news or type shit". Anyway, love Matt and the universe but theres no wrong in being critical.
Matt Reeves gets it! Period! Was so skeptical at first because of the Nolan trilogy but I AM A FAN of his vision of The Batman! Thank you Matt Reeves! Thank you!
Even if he was in the show they wouldn’t ruin the surprise.
I feel that is the case. By the final episode everything will fall and Batman may appear to put things in order.
Or maybe not, we will see.
I feel this is the thing. It's like Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield being kept under wraps for Spidey No Way Home.
A shame that he doesn’t at least make an appearance in the finale or something.
will make the anticipation of finally seeing him again in the next movie even better
I'm expecting at least one bat signal.
I kind of like it.
If he was going to appear,you think Reeves would confirm it in this interview?
I mean this in the least disrespectful manner.
This is a cape shit response.
3:01 "hey! Don't do that! The man was speaking let him finish..."
Lmao
Soo good to have Matt reeves and the cast ect back to talk about this ‘Bat-Verse’ they’ve created … could listen to reeves talk about it all and his way of approaching this all day 😂
I understand him not physically being in the show, but there should be some mentions about the vigilante or the bat by citizens or the news just to bring more life to the show.
The show didn't need Batman. Penguin had his run in with Bats in the first film and he'll butt heads with him in the second film too. Or maybe a second series. Or both. You might as well ask why we didn't see Robin, Nightwing, Superman, Wonder Woman or Flash. This isn't that story. This is a recipe for making Oswald Cobb. The oven just went PING!]
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@@trevorberridge6079 imagine if they did have scenes of oz being scared of the bat through out. like hes going to his car but looking around and telling vic
"always watch for the shadows kid!"
i think that is really cheesy and im glad they didnt sprinkle little scenes like that in like some video game where it affects the immersion differently.
At least a voice cameo. Like OZ knows hes there and he calls out into the shadows. And they speak back.
That would be great!
What would be better is if he speaks out to the batman in a dark alleyway or something, saying like “i know ur there, batman” but no response back and you see a slight hint of fear on Oz’s face
Matt Reeves made the best Batman movie.
bold and valid take
He made the best newer version of Batman but you can’t deny Christopher Nolan is the best director for Batman
I can’t wait to watch the penguin 🐧
Sameee
It's brilliant, solid 10/10.
@@PeterOToole-fx2hy exactly. 8/10 MINIMUM
@@PeterOToole-fx2hy Episode 4 was really really special, it was amazing
@@DutchPlanDerLindeFromTahiti this next episode is gonna be the best.
Bro I wish he would briefly show up, maybe in a slightly upgraded armor/padding to tease his suit evolution in the next movie, and further drive home his growth from the events of The Batman…
It’s always a pleasure to see Rob as Batman, it sucks we won’t be seeing him until The Batman Part II in late 2026…… god forbid 2027, if it’s further pushed back for whatever reason. That would be 4-5 years without seeing him return as Batman… almost HALF (if not half) a DECADE… we could really use some in between appetizers to tide us over until then… if only.
I love that they want to keep Batman mysterious and mythical. If he were present regularly it'd just feel like "Well why didn't they do Batman tv show instead?" But it's so fitting and accurate to the comics for Batman to be out there but no one knows where. He could be monitoring all of Penguin's movements, plots, schemes, etc. But we'll never know until he strikes and that's why Reeves nails the movie and the tv show. He understands the source material and understands that fans will pick up on things that don't fit.
He sustained a lot of injuries at the end of the movie so it makes sense if he needs a rest. But also he had some realizations at the end psychologically. I'm confused as to why they don't at least talk about him. It seems like he kind of came out of the shadows in the movie and you think more people would be talking about a man dressed up like a bat🤷🏻♂️
I get where you're coming from but I feel like in that situation people will talk about the disaster more than someone dressed up as a bat at the disaster. Like 9/11 there are so many heros but when people who experienced 9/11 when it happened they would say similar stuff to what they're saying in the show most the time about how its tragic and how many people have been lost to it. I think we will get a brief mention of him eventually or atleast a little tease of him it just won't be Robert Pattinson it'll be a shot of his boots or cape or a shot of the bat signal to show that the batman is back now
@@alexholt6810everyone is just trying to survive
Do what ever you want just keep bringing good stuff
It’s called the penguin. Not the batman. Im so glad they didn’t go down the easy route and put a bunch of fan service
Maybe
Vic: "Oz do you think we'll be okay doing all these business out in the open with the batman lurking"?
Criminals: "boss how about that crazy guy in the suit beating criminals, ive heard you met him once, do you think it will be a problem for this operation?"
i dont know, they could have added something like that, but nothing at all
The penguin show is straight Fire authentic and gritty I'm locked in Matt Reeves and his team are hitting
The Reevesverse rules!!!!!!!!
Agreed 😎
Boring as hell
@@ParaplegicKeanuReeves If it’s boring, tell me how’s the state of the DCEU or the Snyderverse compared to the Reevesverse?
For sure. Love the noir detective crime feel. I don’t get how people could say it’s boring
@@jerogomezrobledobruh… What the hell does the snyderverse have to do with it??? If he doesnt like it fine…. Btw he never said the snyderverse was any good 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️( and i love both snyderverse and reevesverse and im hyped for the new DCU)
I wish we got a cameo or something. EVEN JUST like 2 people looking up and see batman up on a roof and run . You could just show the cape or something
Honestly, it’s weird that in this Batman crime saga universe, the Penguin will end up having more total screen time by the end of this series. The next two films would probably fix that by giving Batman more and Penguin less again total but that’ll be a while and that’s assuming he Mr. Reeves commits to trilogy.
He wants to do a 3rd one but some studio heads don't
Atleast its not like the spiderman Sony cinematic universe where spiderman has 0 minutes of screen time while his villains have the rest
@@milboxr9772what are you on about
@@mr.nuggies3087 venom kraven morbius madam webb all movues made by Sony for their spiderman universe which never shows spiderman?
@@milboxr9772 oh MB I thought u meant the raimi movies and amazing spiderman
We know where he is- "They think I'm hiding in the shadows but I am the shadows" 😂
He doesn’t need to be which is why these characters are incredible for standing on their own.🎉
That's a true director. He here's a building he wants to use is getting torn down and instead of worrying about wanting to use a new location, bro's first instinct is practical explosion
He's in metropolis.
i don’t really need to SEE him, i just feel like it makes sense to have the criminals at least mention his existence, considering that the first 8 minutes of the batman established him as a force to be reckoned with
Yes, after encounters with the bat in the movie, should have read at heart I've discussion how they're staying out of his radar but nothing
You guys are asking the wrong questions I wanna know about the flying Graysons
That's for the DCU
Me too
Thank you! I thought I was the only person who thought that
I wish they did show him, it would be very cool if we saw him from Penguin's perspective, this dark shadow just taking your guys one by one, they didn't even need to show his face or suit, i'd honestly just be happy with his presence in a scene alone.
Batman is helping clean up the city and he’s most likely is aware of the penguin but he’s gathering information before he makes his move.
Everybody asks where is Batman, nobody asks how is Batman
I'm glad they didn't, it allowed me to even forget this is a spinoff of Batman and see the world of crime in Gotham and somewhat sympathize with people trying to survive but being the worst humans meanwhiel
Very good episode can’t wait to see more
Batman isn't in The Penguin because he's at home! WASHING HIS TIGHTS!
Don't be silly. Batman doesn't wash his tights. He has a manservant for that.
I understood that reference.
What I wpuld love is for the final episode to be the culmination of the Penguin's plan. But it all goes Breaking Bad at the last second because Batman shows up and completely fucks up everything. You dont really see him but you hear him, Oz's goons go missing and his masterplan gets fucked up right at the end. The only time we see Batman is like some terrifying Exorcist 3 style jump scare following the characters around, just flashes here and there, Batman setting off traps and creating distractions. It goes south and its like Oz is being haunted by a ghost.
i think batmans disapperance can be explained by him getting kidnapped by either hush or court of owls as both were teased in batman 1
I dont get how people dont talk about what colson said before he died…he definitely planted the seeds for the court of owls
@@MaintenexLLC I think people are looking way deeper into what he said than what was intended... but I don't blame people, I want the court of owls too. I just don't think it's going to happen, sadly
@@Dexeduswhy not
@@MaintenexLLC I just think it was too vague what colson said to mean anything more than just what it turned out to be. I'll hold my hands up if they properly tease the court of owls in The Penguin show but if they don't do it in the show we definitely wont get them in the sequel film
@@Dexedus agree
It would be awesome if there is one episode where Batman is used not shown but used in some way.
It’s much better that they’re not making it about Batman. I like the idea of being in the street level with Penguin. I feel whenever the season finale is Oz will be be so powerful in the streets that Batman will have to intervene. At that point seeing him will make sense when it gets built up to that
I love that response, it was perfect. The idea of Batman should remain loke the boogieman since we are seeing from the point of view of street thugs. We dont need to see him but know he's there. I absolutely love what they have been doing with the show. This feels like Gotham.
It's so weird not having batman in the show considering the show takes place right after the movie. They don't even bother mentioning him. There's nothing heard about batman or Bruce Wayne. Where he is or what he's doing right now?
He says in the movie he can't be everywhere at once, but there's so much violence in the show I'm wondering wth he's doing, lol
@mentvltrillness Same I also wonder why we don't hear anything about him or Bruce Wayne.
I think
He must've suffered major injuries after the Riddler incident and is now in recovering state
I hope they come up with better explanation
I mean I LOVED the show and I'm not the guy to say Batman MUST have showed up or something like that, but I think it's a little strange not even one reference to his figure. The guy entered the Iceberg Club, scaried Oz and was seen with Falcone when he was shot. I think its fair to say "how the hell he wasnt even referenced, even on the news or type shit". Anyway, love Matt and the universe but theres no wrong in being critical.
Getting to experience Batman from the villains POV would be game changing
Love the show! I like that it is dark and it is not raining in every scene like in the Batman.
I loved the Chicago/NY fuse for Gotham may in itself describe how I've seen it all these years personally
Matt Reeves is a genius
Honestly what I felt should have happened is that with these spin off shows between each season there should be appearances of Batman but as a looming background threat. When they did the chase scene in episode 1 it would have been cool to have the Batmobile crash into the people that were chasing Oz and he gets away. Little things like that will go a long way with fans I know it.
This is such a cool concept.
Matt Point of View Reeves
FR 😂
First time I hear Matt Reeves talking, I was not expecting such a high pitch voice, lol
I think he is healing,he took a lot of damage especially towards the end so yeah,he may want to do something but his body may be in such a weak state so its better to stay put and recover.
I've watched all episode's and I was blown away Collin Farrell wants an oscar for his role.
This is the best show of 2024 imo.
great job
I hope they work Joker in at the end of the series some how so we can see Colin and Barry in a scene together!
I dont mind Batman NOT bring in the show, but for the shows universe to act like he just doesn't exist is so weird for me.
THATS EXACTLY WHAT IM SAYING
Can't wait for this
The best way I can describe it as like the joker book from 2008 where Batman is in there but he’s like almost never mentioned in the book
After all the fire movies, Matt Reeves has made I expected him to have a deep voice, not a soft, whispering voice
Thompson center is not getting torn down. It is getting renovated
Yes, feature the ruins of google without showing the brand; that way the show will remain timeless.
Of course, Matt isn't gonna reveal batman's gonna show up, but we know he's gonna appear at some point in that series. Maybe the finale.
One cameo scene. Just one ☝️
Tbh I've always preferred it this way, when it feels more like a mob/crime/thriller than a superhero show. When Batman shows up in S2, I hope it's like The Nolan Dark Knight trilogy where he is portrayed more as a vigilante who fights terrorism than a "superhero"
The bat signal at the end was enough
Matt Reeves saving DC cinematographic/series universe
I live to think he’s reanimating some of his methods and is building new and better tech to help in his crusade. Likewise, he could be getting more involved in Wayne Ent. because while the city does need a crime fighter, it also needs disaster relief and aid. Who better to find that than Gotham’s bet on Billionaire, Bruce Wayne?
I was watching The Batman last night then found out the series is out
Glad I did that
1st episode was very good and can’t wait to see the rest of them.
That time in Gotham was all about the war between Falcone/Maroni. The time of The Long Halloween. Batman would be heavily involved, and Catwoman is Falcone's illegitimate daughter, so she would be there as well.
Also, where's Gordon at?
It would be cool if Batman actually does make an appearance....but we don't know it's him. With Matt Reeves finally letting us see the detective side of Batman on the big screen, this would be a great opportunity to see Batman's "Matches Malone" persona. Batman going undercover wearing disguises was some of the most compelling moments of Batman TAS. Imagine Oz's crew bring in a guy they think works for(or has information on) Sophia. They beat him up and interrogate him, then Oz has them take the guy's wallet and we see "Matches Malone" on his ID, to which Oz jokes "hey hey, fellas! Take it easy...leave em alone(Malone) huh hahahaha", "hey Matches....got a light 😂". Then after Oz reveals some info in passing during a conversation, the lights cut out, they scramble to get them back on and see all of Oz's guys are knocked out and Matches is gone.
All this just makes the fact that the Batman 2 isn’t coming out for another 2 years hurt even more
Oz had multiple interactions with him and he doesn't even get a mention as the freak in the suit etc.
I love this show because I ain't even thinking of Batman. I forget he exists and that how it would be everyday in Gotham. All they know is stories of a crazy vigilante from the news but everyone is just trying to survive so the bat guy isn't what people think about. It's will I be a statistic in this world run by druglords and corrupt politicians. There's no "superman" in the sky to protect me when I find myself in a dark alley. Just myself watching over my shoulder trying to get home at night.
Not seeing Batman ONCE in the midst of an all out gang war would just go to show he’s a terrible Batman lmao
I’m ok with the idea of him not showing up but at least light that symbol in the sky show us how feared Batman is for the underground of Gothman through the villains perspectives it would make us understand better the villains and build them further for Part 2
Havent watched the show, but i at least hope you feel his presence even if he doesnt show up, which is what they seem to be going for
At least he should be mentioned
They should have atleast had him hidden/doing surveillance on rooftops a couple of times throughout the show, just to show us that he’s still out there watching
This is another interesting dynamic, I guarantee for a fact that maybe that tv series of the penguin without the Batman it’s gonna last 1 one season. Same as the Joker 2 movie but less stringent as basically the Joker 🃏 its legacy it’s cemented with Batman there like Yin and yang ☯️ BUT in the penguin topic maybe they can get away with taking out the element of the Batman on one season or 2 but that’s not gonna last.
Guys maybe Batman does do an appearance but he wants us to experience it ourselves
They aren't tearing the Thompson Center down. It's an extreme remodel
I hope Mr.Reeves do a serie about Selina in Blüdhaven (with Zoë Kravitz) next!
Batman chased the fuck out of penguin and penguin doesn't even mention him once like seriously not even a single criminal think twice before commiting any crime about baman. Its such a lazy writing batman should be a dark force in the background
Penguin has a limp from that incident and he is obviously repressing the memory of it. Typical tough guy response.
It would be cool if you were to just see him stood on a rooftop in the background
Matt Reeves´s version of Gotham is absolutely perfect, even i really still think that the best version of Gotham is Tim Burton´s. Can´t wait to see this tv show and the sequel to The Batman !
Do you know the comics have actually done this before there was a story called Gotham Central and it was a Batman story from commissioner Gordon and the GCPD point of view for Batman was like in the shadows hardly ever seen he was still taking down the bad guys but he was hardly seen in that story arc and it was just from the opinions and the perspective of the GCPD really good book really good storyline
Given how much they're bringing it up. He's definitely making an appearance 😂
My question is is they are allowed yo use batman if they really wanted to. The show Gotham literally how to fight for Batman to have a bat logo on his chest for the final, Arrow was planed to be a Batman show but they weren't allowed to use Batman, so I'm just curious if they're allowed to use Batman
I understand the lack of Batman in the show, ofc he can't be everywhere and it's better that way imo. But, I really hoped that the characters in the show would acknowledge his existence one or the other way. afraid, thinking he might be out there. even if for a small moment. would've been so effin good!
Could at least be in a news broadcast in the background or something