The Worst Rental Trades in Recent MLB History
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The Angels 2023 deadline deserves a spot here. It's like a kid procrastinating on a project to cram it all the night before its due.
None of players that the angels traded away have made the big leagues yet. So it doesn’t fit the format of this video, even though it turned out horribly for the angels.
@Belangerz fair enough. Even still, giolito, cron, and grichuk all had negative WAR with the angels sooooo... maybe closer to qualifying for this than it should be 🤣
@@Meetoon733 definitely, the players the white Sox got have been doing pretty good in AA. I’d expect they’d make the big leagues in a few years.
@Belangerz lol dammit as an angels fan I've been avoiding looking at how they're doing. Guess it's time.. 🥲
I think that one would need a video on its own with how disastrous it was
"Jean Segura. He was a brewer. Yeah. And then his kid passed away" - Jarred Kelenic
real
Can someone explain ?
@joepadovano3745 when the mariners traded for Kelenic he posted a video on his TH-cam channel of him going to Safeco field and meeting the mariners GM Jerry Dipoto. On the way there he was walking past the player banners they have on the outside of the stadium and saying the names as he went past. When he got to Segura, he said the quote above, which out of context is hilarious, but he then goes on about how it was a very hard part of his life and him overcoming it is very impressive.
Lmaooooooooooo thank you sir
Well well well
The Oakland A’s Daycare LMAO 😂
I definitely expected Jolly to say "a bunch of rookies going absolutely apeshit" but I can't complain
I'm an A's fan and that was pretty funny 😂.
Can’t wait for the inevitable Cole Ragans for Aroldis Chapman deal.
Won a WS, All worth it
@@stoyzz yeah but he wasn’t really needed for it
@@zerokozmoeven if ragans became Nolan Ryan and pitched 20 years for the royals it would not matter cause they got a World Series
That would mean the Pirates make a good trade for a starter... not happening...
If you win a World Series, it’s worth it no matter what. Though this trade will hurt in a few years, ask rangers fans and they’d choose that WS
As Jays fans we should've seen our current situation coming with Atkins and Shapiro after they didn't sell after 2017. The cardinals literally offered a package of Jack Flaherty and 3 other prospects for Donaldson and we turned it down.
The thing is that Lane Thomas was a AAAA guy for the cardinals. He never put it together in St. Louis and his development is genuinely shocking to cards fans
It's because the Cardinals just can't develop young players. It's what happens when instead of changing the toxic culture that values seniority Mike Matheny created, they keep hiring people who are exactly like Matheny as selling "The Cardinal Way" is a higher priority for the front office than building a team that's actually watchable.
Lots of wild cards on that team
Kinda your teams entire bread and butter as of late!
I imagined you were also shocked with randy and Adolis too
Same with rangers and Cole Ragans in 2023. Sometimes you can't just unlock a guy and just gotta accept you're on the losing end because no way they'd ever do that on your team
Thomas’ “development” has been minimal. One good 3 WAR year on a bad team surrounded by years of just above replacement level play.
Nelson Cruz for Joe Ryan stands out to me
as a rays fan i think abt this every other day
Now we have Aaron civale who can't make it 4 innings without giving up 4 runs
The best part about that Jon Lester trade is that with how much Nats fans hated him, he flipped off fans when he was in the parking lot going to the airport on his way to St. Louis.
We loved Jon L cards fan here
A’s fan here. Lester will forever be my least favorite player ever
9:18 2011 Rookie of The Year Jeremy Hellickson catching a stray as if Blake Beaven wasn't a more insane name to see on that list
I'm a Tigers fan and the entire time you were talking about Daniel Norris, I was thinking "who the fuck did we get" because i couldn't think of a single good trade we made over the last 8 years lol
Best trade deadline moves were probably AA remaking the Braves outfield in 2021, culminating with a World Series win, with one of those outfielders, Jorge Soler, winning WS MVP, thanks to that emphatic 3-run HR in game 6.
I’m not even a Braves fan, but that was master work.
Twins sent Spencer Steer, Christian Encarnacion-Strand, and Steve Hajjar to the Reds for nine games of Tyler Mahle.
They also traded Yennier Cano and Cade Povich for 58 innings of Jorge Lopez
The Oakland A’s daycare was a special team
John Lester was a massive part of that 17 game win streak the cardinals had to make the wild card. Lame Thomas got a ton of run with the big league club and never clicked.
As a cardinals fan I admit it was probably an overpay but nowhere near any of the haunting trades they have made over the last 5 or so years
That year was definitely fun as a cards fan. Now we are fighting to stay 500 with an average starting pitcher age above 35
@@coltonclark6373 this is also true. But, I remember distinctly that lane Thomas was our #5 outfielder and that’s being extremely generous. In 2021, Oneill, Bader, and Carlson all seemingly broke out (lol didn’t last long), Nootbaar was electric as a rookie and we kept hearing about Juan Yepez knocking at the door. It would be very revisionist to say it was an obvious lopsided deal at the time, especially with how much run Lane Thomas got at the bid league level.
Not that you made this comparison, but I have seen a lot of comps made between Thomas and Adolis Garcia and Randy Arozerena that annoy me a little bit
Thomas had 82 games with the cardinals and hit just .172 with a .625 OPS. Adolis Garcia and Randy Arozerena, for comparison, combined for just 39 games with the team
@jacknelson6163 Yeah, it's just a change of scenery and a chance to play every day. Cardinals had to choose their guys, you know what I mean. Not everyone can get playing time that needs because it's about producing.
Not even close to the worst cardinals trade. Marcell ozuna for Alcantara and Zac gallen hurts my head every time I think about it
I’m not a Cardinals fan, but the fact that they included Sandy in that deal is what really puts it over the top. With just Gallen, it looks a little more like Gallen for Chisholm (different skill sets notwithstanding). Ozuna was OK in St. Louis, but went back to producing once he went to Atlanta (of course; ugh, I hate them so much). But the Cardinals have been bad at developing pitching, and so stubborn in their approach, that I can’t help but wonder if they would have ruined Gallen, in particular. Sandy (when healthy) is already a sinker guy, albeit one who throws 98-100, but Gallen’s a four-seamer guy who gets his swing-and-miss with two breakers and a changeup. St. Louis really seems to like their pitch-to-contact sinkerballers.
2011 Giants traded Zack Wheeler to Mets for Beltran. Now even though beltran batted .323 for them, he was only a rental and was not back the following year, and the giants didnt even make the playoffs that year.
But just imagine if they had kept Wheeler. In 2016 when they were going for their 4th straight even year championship, having him in that rotation might have got them past the Cubs. It’s one of the worst trade deadline deals ever. Wheeler is still dealing while all the other Giants core staff had very short careers.
Wheeler did not pitch in 2015-16 but I get what you’re saying he would have been great to have. Miss havin him on the team he’s a horse
I know he wasn't technically a rental, but the Mark Teixeira to the Braves trade was awful. We got like 9 months of Tex and gave up an All-Star closer (Neftali Feliz), an All-Star shortstop (Elvis Andrus), and a bonafide starting catcher that knew how to call a game (Jarrod Saltalamacchia). I'm 100% convinced that trade singlehandedly sent Atlanta into it's rebuild period. Luckily we drafted Freeman and Heyward the same year.
Salty was so clutch for the Tigers, miss him
I don’t think you understand how much of a core childhood memory the MLB Power Pros background music hits
the amount of hours i spent playing power pros on the ps2 with my cousin. how i wish life could be that simple again
@@alikrrrrrs i played it on the Wii as a kid going over my grandmas house for the summers. I still remember buying it at Best Buy having no idea what it was .
@@michaeldimatteo7138 its such a fun game, i was able to jailbreak my 3ds and i downloaded power pros on it. seeing the old rosters is crazy to me because that was roughly the time i started to watch baseball
Impressed that you brought up the Reese Olson trade. Deserves to be talked about more
The 2021 trade between Minnesota and Tampa is a pretty egregious miss IMO.... TB got Nelson Cruz as a rental who netted them 0.4 WAR in exchange for Joe Ryan who was instantly plugged into the MIN rotation (after his Olympics run) and has so far been a 5.5 WAR player, and I'd argue is only getting better for the Twins
It is the cover art and main trade for my other worst rental trades video.
Mets fan here and I have two trades off the top of my head for you.
1. 2000 - Trading Melvin Mora for Mike Bordick. Trade happened cause Mora was a liability defensively at SS so he was traded for a sure handed veteran. Bordick did little to contribute for the Mets playoff run and resigned with Baltimore after the season. Meanwhile Mora turned out to be a pretty good player during his time with the Orioles and even was an allstar if my memory is correct.
2. 1999 - Mets traded Jason Isringhausen to Oakland for Billy Taylor. This was again for our playoff push. We needed bullpen help and Isringhausen's fall from grace as a hyped pitching prospect ran it's course. His contribution to the bullpen was lackluster at best so was shipped for Billy Taylor, an obvious rental to provide bullpen relief. In classic Mets fortune, he did no such thing and Isringhausen soon became one of baseball's elite closer's, though much of his success was with the Cardinals but he was still far more productive in his short stint in Oakland.
I love the looks of that prospect list for Houston vs the reality.
It's always great to see where the 'can't miss' guys end up
That Reese Olson trade is so insane
2014. the A's had a commanding lead in the AL West, but on Trade day they traded Yoenis Cespedes and other for Jon Lester. The A's barely held on to the 2nd wildcard that year and lost in KC.
The Olsen thing starting back in 2021, and him being under control until 2030 speaks volumes about the nature of Players Rights in this league.
The Twins getting Jorge Lopez from the Orioles and Tyler Mahle from the Reds are both going to look pretty horrendous when the books are closed on them.
Even as a Rays fan, I was pretty surprised not to see Nelson Cruz or Lucas Duda tbh.
3:23, Hey Francisco Liriano got a big out in Game 7 of the World Series
(I bet Jolly Olive didn’t know that) 😊
Very happy to see the Olson for Norris trade finally get some appreciation outside of Detroit!
It’s wild, how many superstars the nationals had in the later run of their franchise and still won a World Series without 90% of those guys still on the roster…
josh hader on the padres (my favs) was honestly kinda random. a good closer was helpful but we really just needed bats.
9:34 I love this!
For the record sir,
We didn’t lose out on signing Grenkie.. we decided to sign Josh Hamilton that offseason , we chose the child beater over the hall of famer. That’s the Salt in the wound
Jean Segura! What an athlete! I'll never forget when he hit his 200th double! Astounding accomplishment honestly
As a giants fan I have to say that the worst are Zach Wheeler for Carlos Beltran, Adam Duvall for Mike Leake, and Bryan Reynolds for Andrew McCutchen
Jollyyyyyy, my boy, thank you for the Reece Olson love, this tigers fan loves yah for it.
You had me wondering who the Nationals acquired in the trade for Schwarber, and it was a pitching prospect Aldo Ramirez. If that name doesn’t sound familiar, that’s because he hasn’t pitched in 3 years when he pitched 4 games for the Nationals’ Florida Complex team where he had an ERA over 8.
So even though Schwarber walked away from Boston in the offseason to go to Philly, safe to say the Red Sox won that trade.
2011 Beltran to the Giants for three months, didn't resign him, didn't make the playoffs, in exchange for Zach Wheeler to the Mets. Terrible trade
I’m loving the Jean Segura mention. I miss him playing baseball, but I’m also glad he seems to be living his best life right now.
Greinke wasn’t a deadline trade for the brewers, it was an offseason acquisition
The worst rental trade of all time was the Angels White Sox deal in 2023. Giolito and Lopez only played for like a month before being dfad. Sent prospects like Edgar Queen away for literally nothing
The Padres' end of the Juan Soto trade with the Nationals is currently leading in WAR, but Soto and Bell have left, and by the time all of the players the Nationals acquired leave Washington, it could be pretty lopsided
If we include full-season rentals, and not just trade-deadline, Clase for Kluber was terrible for Texas.
I'm shocked to not see the Javy Baez trade for PCA on here. Maybe it's too early, but I hated that trade when it happened and I'm bracing myself for the worst as a Mets fan
Crow-Amstrong is one of the worst offensive player this year. He is a career 498 OPS 🤦🏻♂️🫢🤣🤣🤣. What the hell are you talking about?
That Cardinals 2021 Trade Deadline was so absurd that right then and there I called them making the playoffs. I looked like a real dumbass all the way up through 8 September, when they had a 2.5% chance of making it per Fangraphs. As we all know, they proceeded to win 17 games in a row and clinch a wildcard spot before falling to my Dodgers. I fell in love with St. Louis that season, and were anyone but my Dodgers in the way, I would have wanted them to win it all. Of course, Atlanta decided to ruin my fun and do it themselves.
As an Astros fan, I must ask the comment section to please not call Carlos Gomez a bum; doing this is an insult to the actual bums out there.
The 2017 Astros may not have benefited much from trading for Francisco Liriano because that was overshadowed by the implementation of their trash can drum offense that year.
This video and the Immaculate Draft questions for today on the same day is so funny
As an Angels fan, we were mostly happy with the Greinke trade, especially considering Aybar/Kendrick were seen as a pretty solid duo up the middle. Not resigning him sucked (especially because he went crosstown to the Dodgers), but I wonder if it would have looked far less lopsided if he wasn't a rental (especially considering the next couple of years Greinke had).
The other funny thing about the Norris deal is that he would be back as a free agent with the Tigers less than a year later.
Jorge Lopez for Yennier Cano and Cade Povich at the 2022 trade deadline between Baltimore and Minnesota looks to be a fleece by Mike Elias. Lopez under performed during his tenure in Minnesota after making the All-Star team as an Oriole. Meanwhile Cano became an All-Star in 2023, and Povich looks pretty solid as one of the O's starting pitchers in June 2024. What's crazy is that Lopez eventually found his way back to Baltimore when he was claimed off of waivers by Miami after the Twins traded him to the Marlins at the 2023 deadline.
WHATTTTT I DONT EVEN REMEMBER LESTER BEING A CARDINAL 😭 that looked so weird seeing him in a STL jersey
I know it wasn’t a rental, but when my cubbies traded Dylan Cease AND Eloy for Quintana, I threw up.
Pirates traded Tyler Glasnow and Austin Meadows for Chris Archer, only to lose the wildcard game and for Archer to be rough. Meanwhile Glasnow is one of the most dominant pitchers in the league, and Meadows made an all star team before stepping away from baseball. That was an all time bad trade
There is a feeling these types of trades happen less often nowadays. I just remember the Heathcliff Slocumb for Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe trade.
Could really do a full video on Kimbrel slamming shut the White Sox window of contention
Was he terrible for the white sox?
@@acyrus6393 horrific. Had a 0.49 ERA before the trade & a 5.09 after - in huge leverage spots of course. It's like the Cubs threw a grenade in our clubhouse.
i was watching the other video you made on this topic as you posted this video
The Twins giving up Cano and Povich to the Orioles a couple years back was a rough one considering how far Lopez has fallen from grace since that day.
Lester was a much needed pick up for the Cardinals that year. Probably would have missed the playoffs without him.
Twins rental of Jorge Lopez could easily make this list
Is 1987 recent enough?
Sure, it worked in the short term for the Tigers, but come 1991, trading John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander turned into a nightmare as Smoltz would help the Braves win FOURTEEN CONSECUTIVE DIVISION TITLES.
Worst rental for me would be Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields in 2016. Dodgers missed big on that one.
Giants traded Zack Wheeler for half a season of Carlos Beltran. The Giants missed the playoffs and couldn’t sign Beltran during the following offseason.Wheeler is one of the best starters in MLB and Beltran is long gone.
Jean Segura has been a part of so many trades that he could practically get his own "Trade History" video.
Daniel Norris may have been a mediocre depth starter/long reliever but I’ll always remember his first game as a tigers batting at Chicago hitting a bomb to straight away center field
Did you intend to tease a segment about Darin Ruf by emphasizing “rough trades” in the ad spot? Cause I’m a Mets fan here and I was waiting for that one
First option for houston is more of a butterfly effect, would the astros have gotten or given yordan alvarez a chance if theoscar is a full time LF for them ?
can we get a best rental trades video as well?
Astros losing big to Jays is going to be there twice in couple years with Kikuchi for Loperfido, Wagner and Bloss trade.
As a cardinals fan i hated that we got half a year of lester, yes we needed pitching but for a 37 year old about to retire i was disappointed in giving up thomas
What about these 2? I know is hard to analyze Mets trades but it has to be done.
Worse for Blue Jays they get R.A. Dickey and Josh Thole. Mets get Joe Buck, Travis d’Arnaud and Noah Syndergaard.
I think this one is even because of how controversial he is. Mets get Marcus Stroman Jays get Simeon Woods Richardson and Anthony Kay
Negative trade for Mets the Mets get Javier Baez. Cubs get Pete Crow-Armstrong.
Brad Hand/Riley Adams trade between the Nats and Jays in ‘21 was pretty abysmal for the Jays
Josh Fields for Yordan Alvarez isn’t technically a rental, but it is one of the absolute worst deadline deals in MLB history. Not quite on the level of Bartolo Colon for Brandon Phillips, Grady Sizemore, and Cliff Lee, but a ho-hum middle reliever for a superstar hitter is pretty bad. 1.0 fWAR from Fields vs 20.5 fWAR from Alvarez to date. Probably even worse by bWAR.
EDIT: actually no. 2.0 to 20.9. Unexpected.
What's funny about the Greinke to MIL trade is that both Zack and Lorenzo Cain ended their careers in KC, assuming Zack doesn't return. Zack played the last two years in his return to KC and Cain signed a one day contract to retire as a Royal.
As a Cardinals fan, I can confirm, we make the dumbest trades
Brewers traded for Greinke in the off season and eased the sting of trading Reese Olson trade by shelling him this year.
The Nelson Cruz trade for Joe Ryan will end up being one of the worst ever, Joe is on his way towards being an ace.
Jose Quintana to the cubs, idc he wasn't bad, we gave up way way too much
Joey gallo for Ezekiel Durán was pretty egregious.
The mlb power pros background music is tuff
@Jolly Olive Why is Curt Schilling not in the Hall of Fame? Look at his ERA+, strikeout total, and postseason performance.
Greinke wasn’t traded at the deadline. He was traded to Milwaukee before the season.
I will forever confuse Lane Thomas with Lane Adams
Ah, the 2012 A’s. Such good times
The entire 2023 Angels deadline
The vogelbach for holderman trade was pretty elite for the pirates especially this year
Robert will end up on this list with the asking price he's getting. Dudes going to end up playing 30 games total for his new team and just being injured the rest of the time.
love the power pros music
Olson has been shelled by his offense. He has a mid-3s ERA, but I believe he has like 4-5 losses. Olson is in a deGrom-like season
Getting old dudes to pitch for the Cardinals has been a staple for the entire Mozeilak organization
hoping schoop to the brewers is in this lol
God damn you beat me to this
Ooh that's a good one. Schoop was atrocious with the Brewers. Thankfully the Brewers didn't trade away anyone of note.
@joelnelson4770 that's fair lol, the actual cost wasn't consequential but schoop was just so dreadful in milwaukee lol
2021 trade deadline. Blue jays get Brad Hand, Nats get Riley Adams. Brad Hand was so bad with the Jays, blew so many games, leading to the Jays missing the postseason by one game. Riley Adams had a good year last season.
What about Fernando Tatis Jr for James Shields? It was essentially supposed to be a salary dump but they made out like kings.
Dang i should've watched this video before doing the immaculate draft
Right hahaha
The A’s trading Jesus Luzardo for Marte was another awful one. The one time it feels like they try and make a win now move, it goes horribly wrong
Orioles get Steve Clevinger and Scott Feldman.
Cubs get Jake Arrieta and Pedro Strop.
Thank you for another banger video Happy Grape
The 2023 padres rich hill and ji-man choi rental was abysmal
2011 Giants Zack Wheeler for Mets Carlos Beltran
I would argue that rentals that end in a world series shouldn’t be on the list.