The Death of Simple Racing Games

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  • With the conversation around modern arcade racing games shifting away from their arcade roots, why not look back on some of the classic titles like Ridge Racer, Flatout and Blur to get a better idea on what those game had that could be used again today?
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    Contents:
    0:00 Intro
    4:09 Ridge Racer
    9:27 Blur
    14:49 Split Second
    18:26 Flatout 2
    25:06 Motorstorm Pacific Rift
    29:27 Where did they go?
    32:34 Optimistic Conclusion

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  • @therealmudafuka7200
    @therealmudafuka7200 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +405

    The reference with the thumbnail is SSS++ tier

    • @Fastminer07
      @Fastminer07  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +68

      It's even an Evo (although it's a 6 cause i took the pic from FH5)

    • @Angrynood
      @Angrynood 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      It took me a moment but I got it. It's a god-tier reference

    • @itsmemene2456
      @itsmemene2456 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Didn’t get it, can someone explain? (I’m new to this channel and it amusing the amount of effort each video takes)

    • @silverdashhd644
      @silverdashhd644 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      @@itsmemene2456 Seiji Iwaki Evo4

    • @itsmemene2456
      @itsmemene2456 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@silverdashhd644 thanks a lot, you’re right ‼️ Didn’t notice at first sight

  • @DominatorLegend
    @DominatorLegend 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +184

    Flatout 2 was the only game in which rubberbanding never bothered me. "Oh, Benton, you're catching up? Allow me to introduce you to THE WALL!"

    • @josephyepez877
      @josephyepez877 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Dude you don't even know how rubber banding works

    • @josephyepez877
      @josephyepez877 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Fo2 has one of the best balanced IA I've ever seen

    • @megajuanph11
      @megajuanph11 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I don't think it has rubberbanding. If you could met another racer you left behind one lap further if you had a good race, and the same case if you crashed and the team left you eating dust.

  • @Muhluri
    @Muhluri 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +126

    fun fact: The boost explosion in motorstorm propels you forwards. This means you can technically use it to push you across the finish line faster

    • @MrMantis1990
      @MrMantis1990 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Which I used so often to turn 1st in the last seconds🤣😂🤣😂🤣👍

    • @karpiq312
      @karpiq312 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      True, won several races thanks to that.

  • @NamComSNK
    @NamComSNK 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +291

    Funny thing worth mentioning: the Blur and Split/Second staff both went to Sumo Digital when their studios closed. They later ended up developing Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, which is also super underrated.

    • @goodie2shoes874
      @goodie2shoes874 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Now that u say that they feel like they’re on the same engine

    • @colinkiama
      @colinkiama 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      That explains everything! That game was incredible!

    • @James-im2ip
      @James-im2ip 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      No way! Had no idea. Never got around to trying Sonic & Allstars Racing Transformed before, now I need to get myself a copy!

    • @geoffreymillennium-maximus4140
      @geoffreymillennium-maximus4140 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      You gotta point about that. I have the Sega game, blur, and s/s on PC. I believe they are hype games

    • @sherbetjutsu3028
      @sherbetjutsu3028 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Sumo Digital also worked as a support studio for Hotshot racing
      The game even made the switch from the Unity engine to the Sumo Digital engine

  • @SrtRacerBoy
    @SrtRacerBoy 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I miss racing games like,
    RUSH
    RallySport Challenge,
    Flatout 1 & 2,
    The earlier Burnout games,
    NFS: Hot Pursuit (original), Underground 1,2, and Most Wanted.
    Dirt 1 & 2
    The Original GRID

  • @BeefjerkyMusic
    @BeefjerkyMusic 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    Fun fact, Blur is now abandonware, and can be freely downloaded and shared legally. Multiplayer still works too

    • @nostalgigamer
      @nostalgigamer 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I had to re-purchase for a more authentic shot of nostalgia 😆

    • @ABRacing_
      @ABRacing_ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Really???

    • @nostalgigamer
      @nostalgigamer 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Really???

    • @rodrigogirao8344
      @rodrigogirao8344 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      There's no such thing unless the publisher says so.

    • @Ferrari255GTO
      @Ferrari255GTO 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@rodrigogirao8344 the whole point of abandonware is that once it gets ignored by the original owner of the intellectual property users are free to do their own thing, not that it made any difference as it hasn't prevented anyone from doing it before it became such...

  • @screamsinrussian5773
    @screamsinrussian5773 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +219

    NIGHTRUNNERS MENTIONED
    WHAT THE FUCK IS ENGINE COOLING

    • @verticalflyingb737
      @verticalflyingb737 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

      WE MAKING DAISUKE BANKRUPT WITH THIS HEAT 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

    • @thatonedooofus1251
      @thatonedooofus1251 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      WERE VIBING TO EMOTION ENGINE ALONG THE WAY🔥🔥🗣️

    • @marlibeshaj1069
      @marlibeshaj1069 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      WE ARE UNLOCKING THE UNAVAILABLE CARS IN THE PROLOGUE WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

    • @Kudo716
      @Kudo716 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      not me redlining my 180sx for 3 straight minutes 💀

    • @mayteexxis
      @mayteexxis 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The descriptions on some of the used cars in that game are hilarious

  • @Mugigomi
    @Mugigomi 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +101

    The ridge racer 7 community especially in Japan is still strong even today. It makes you wonder why Namco still decided to axe the whole thing

    • @billyj.causeyvideoguy7361
      @billyj.causeyvideoguy7361 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Because it came out in an era where japan was obsessed with western sales numbers and nothing else. (Thanks Phil Fish… look it up. Its all due to his gdc talk)

    • @Mugigomi
      @Mugigomi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@billyj.causeyvideoguy7361 which ended up with Unbounded.. Yeah ig that makes sense now

    • @Andreas32300
      @Andreas32300 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      RR7 online is still active, right?

    • @kevingame3198
      @kevingame3198 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      This is not the only time Namco decided to put Ridge racer franchise on the chopping blocks project cars too meet the same fate after the middle reception of the third game as well as the disasters launch of fast and furious crossroads and Bandai namco sold slightly mad studios to codemasters in early 2021 in that that same year EA bought Codemasters which means that slightly mad Studios is fused with codemasters

    • @Dregomz02
      @Dregomz02 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Namco only cares about Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune on arcades when it comes to the racing games.

  • @fessin555
    @fessin555 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    FlatOut 2 Mentioned

  • @Lucasbortolotti-55
    @Lucasbortolotti-55 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    man, if mw 2012 had been released with another name instead of mw, it wouldnt get that much hate as it gotten

    • @regularbloke2117
      @regularbloke2117 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I personally always think of it as an open world high stakes remake, which would be quite fitting cause mw2012 also came after hot pursuit

    • @FencelineFilms
      @FencelineFilms 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      On steam MW12 is overall positive reviewed on steam

    • @Dregomz02
      @Dregomz02 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I still hate them for calling it that. And haven't bought a single nfs after that title they really alienated old fans with crappy criterion/ghost games driving style
      All of their games are not fun to drive. Blackbox was the best dev of arcade racers.

    • @Dregomz02
      @Dregomz02 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@FencelineFilms new generation replaces us old fans that's why noe they have nostalgia for a title that ruined the entire series

    • @AlexanTheMan
      @AlexanTheMan 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​​​@@FencelineFilms You'd have to have been there at the time it released and have experience with the original Most Wanted to understand what a fundamental disappointment it was given 2012 did not live up to the bar set by 2005.
      If you were also a Burnout fan you'd be doubly disappointed because the studio behind those games was made to work on a game that ALSO doesn't live up to a Burnout-like experience.
      That just set up the stage for what EA and the other major publishers would do to franchise sequels moving forward. Scaled down and mediocre for every other iteration.

  • @ileutur6863
    @ileutur6863 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +154

    I'm tired of all the seriousness and effort being put into sim racers, with the arcade genre being reduced to festival "you're the winner" racers and asphalt feeling drift fests.

    • @WSPonPlayStationandXbox
      @WSPonPlayStationandXbox 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@ileutur6863 Well at least modern NFS isn't like this, for the most part anyway. You still get Cops, an NFS Hot Pursuit inspired Cops VS Racers update for NFS Unbound is coming in just over a month from now. The current NFS Unbound update, Volume. 7, is NFS Underground inspired, with drag races, a new drift handling model. And there are even more stuff to look forward to.
      I'm also hoping they add all, or at least a lot of the new Year 2 Roadmap content to the singleplayer because NFS Unbound's singleplayer is kind of neglected in terms of content. At least for now. Because if we give Criterion Games enough polite constructive criticism and feedback, then we may see this being changed relatively soon.

    • @relax4531
      @relax4531 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      fr bruh im mad how watered down the crew and forza horizon became

    • @DominatorLegend
      @DominatorLegend 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      Modern arcade genre feeling like some hugbox shit where you're constantly being showered with supercars and validation.
      Man, screw that. Where are the snobbish opponents? Why can I no longer start with a beaten down econobox and then work my way up to the luxury stuff?
      It's all so tiresome.

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@DominatorLegendWorking your way up sounds tiresome. People's lives are too bad enough to want to have to start from the bottom in a video game, which is supposed to be an escape from their rotten lives. It's easy to blame greedy corporations, but to be honest, think about what people want to play after a hard day's bullshit. Challenge the player? Screw that. Life's challenging enough as is. We need an escape from that challenge.
      I have nothing against challenging video games, but life is already challenging enough as is.

  • @massolaracing7482
    @massolaracing7482 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    As a indie racing game developer, I really think that this kind of games will be brought by indie developers, since we dont have the resources and goal to achieve the most money making racing game, but just want to put our ideas out there, mostly inspired by 2010 games since that the time we grew up!

    • @lilwoodiewood3457
      @lilwoodiewood3457 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Indie games sucks I need longevity and lots of features and a huge online player base sorry their is no going back I can't even have fun racing ai anymore I'm to good

  • @ludicrousfool7953
    @ludicrousfool7953 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +127

    So this is where you were saving up FlatOut, Ridge Racer, etc.

    • @Fastminer07
      @Fastminer07  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      yup

    • @jasonsteelwood3121
      @jasonsteelwood3121 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Flatout kinda revived in form of Trail Out

    • @roboxt100-ys6ev
      @roboxt100-ys6ev 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Fastminer07 hey, dude. have you heard about Carx? is like a studio that made racing games for mobile, and there's one called "carx drift racing Lite". which is like the "first ever" game of this franchise :)

    • @megajuanph11
      @megajuanph11 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jasonsteelwood3121 The cinematics are absolute cringe, but the game was pure fun. I remember setting up the longest track of the game with 20 laps, and spending hours racing through it

    • @AnalogSins
      @AnalogSins 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@megajuanph11 Nah trail out did so badly what Flatout 2 did so well. Flatout 2 is a proper, almost simcade style racing game underneath. All the issues mentioned in this review are just skill ones. Trail out dumbes down the entire thing into a mindless crash-a-ton.

  • @Masterchief0181
    @Masterchief0181 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    Split Second, Blur & Ridge Racer are all game series i wish came back
    But we all know they won't
    But i had my fair share of memories with them

  • @TyCal_
    @TyCal_ 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    WOOO BLUR!! I’m so glad you mentioned that game, to this day I can’t think of another racing game that feels like just like Blur. If only we actually got Blur 2

    • @Simtatic
      @Simtatic 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I still have hope the franchise gets revived or adapted by another studio like Flatout to Wreckfest. Its so incredibly unique and fun, i am happy my dad picked it up when i was a kid. I have the CD/DVD disc in the original packaging to this day. It even ran on my first shitty PC with a Xeon dual core, 9500GT and 3gb RAM on Windows XP and it looked great while running very smoothly. The campaign was great and i remember playing that game with my friends and with my dad on on the same keyboard split screen. This and a few other games are the only reason why i still have an optical drive in my PC.

    • @CookyMonzta
      @CookyMonzta 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I thought I heard there was an attempt to make _Blur 2,_ but the developer went belly-up. ☹️

  • @R_Monteiro2003
    @R_Monteiro2003 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    There's a game series you didn't mention that could also fit very well in this category: WipEout. It was released after the original F-Zero but improved greatly on that formula imo. It's easy to learn in the slower speed classes but very challenging to master once you get to the faster ones, it feels genuinely thrilling to play.
    And what amazes me the most about those games are the physics. The ships have a realistic handling and weight without losing the "arcadey" feel of it. And i could also talk about the amazing soundtracks, the entire world building that feels like an actual attainable future at times, the backstory of the games, i could go on.
    Sadly it's not around anymore (if you exclude the Omega Collection which is a remaster for the PS4) but i think there's rumors for a new game on the PS5, hopefully that's true. Nonetheless, it also has an amazing spiritual sucessor and great tribute to the earlier games called BallisticNG, you should give it a try.

  • @positrondesign6514
    @positrondesign6514 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    On New Years Day 2020 I fulfilled my ultimate Gamer Fantasy.
    Some of the British Formula 1 TH-camrs I watch were having a live stream playing Wreckfest with 2009 F1 World Champion Jenson Button. I figured out what server they were playing on and I raced Jenson in Wreckfest!

  • @mlok4216
    @mlok4216 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I know that the video is kind of about a different style of arcade racing, but I am very grateful that we have Trackmania in this day and age. Out of all the options that are available, this is the only racing game that scratches the itch for easy to learn, hard to master, easy to hop on, hard to hop off game...

  • @tanermen-9327
    @tanermen-9327 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Well I m still playing Flatout 2 about 11 years (5-16) and still getting same enjoyment. I got this game Steam version at 2023 for respect because it was my childhood. Hey at least we got Trailout which is similar to Flatout 2

  • @krishacz
    @krishacz 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    If you loved Flatout 2, you should play Ultimate Carnage! It's basically a 7th gen port of flatout 2 with more gamemodes (but still including the original race career!) and 12 racers instead of 8. More chaos and more fun!

    • @canespastico
      @canespastico 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      played the hell out of it, it's sooooo good

    • @drsumo3113
      @drsumo3113 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      It even recently received a "Collectors Edition" update, making it fully verified on Steam Deck, removing Games for Windows LIVE DRM, adding achievements and fixing some bugs.

  • @Solid_Kris
    @Solid_Kris 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Man, that Ball_Fondler guy really came in clutch by forcing you to play the absolute GOAT of racing games

  • @stiefn3825
    @stiefn3825 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Anti-Gravity-Racer still follow your categories of simple racing games, they are easy to pick up but hard to master, ooze style and focus on racing.
    Some recommendations:
    Both Redout
    BallisticNG
    Fast RMX

    • @kyledodson2992
      @kyledodson2992 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Did they kill off WipeOut? Or do they plan to revisit the series? Think that HD collection was the last thing they did

    • @Frapskillar
      @Frapskillar 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Don't forget the upcoming Aero GPX

    • @Frapskillar
      @Frapskillar 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@kyledodson2992omega collection for the ps4 is the last thing they did. Too bad Sony killed Studio Liverpool after Wipeout 2048

    • @-Poka-
      @-Poka- 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      WipEout 🤝 Ridge Racer
      both racing games that has lots of great techno & hardcore music

    • @Seanthefox
      @Seanthefox 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@-Poka-I like to play WipEout while listening to Ridge Racer music. Somehow it fits

  • @rump438
    @rump438 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    it always warms my heart to see blur get mentioned in something. I always felt it was a massively underrated game, it was the only racing game I felt that ever captured the same kinda fun goofy magic mario kart has.

    • @AB-fr2ei
      @AB-fr2ei 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Best car game of all time

  • @RossCuth
    @RossCuth 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    I count Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit 2010 a "simple racing game", due to its lack of story and straightforward gameplay. Little customization, just pure Racers vs Cops, and it's one of the best games i've played in a long time. I've put over 2500+ hours into the Hot Pursuit Remastered, it's just simple yet soo easy to pick up and play for a few hours. And for me atleast, that's all I need.
    I know it's extremely unlikely to happen, but i'd like Criterion to give the Hot Pursuit/Rivals style of gameplay another shot, especially after the disappointment that was Unbound. Despite them continuing support on the game, I think Criterion need to take a step back on the all out tuner shit and give us something more straightforward for the next game.

    • @0047sssss
      @0047sssss 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      The Blackbox fanboys hate the Hot Pursuit games because of the lack of ugly bodykits and cheesy storylines

    • @MidnightApex-ml6jc
      @MidnightApex-ml6jc 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@0047sssssexactly

    • @mayflower4645
      @mayflower4645 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      YOU
      what are YOU doing in the comments of a video im watching a day after i encounter you in an online lobby

    • @RossCuth
      @RossCuth 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@mayflower4645 Uhh... surprise?! lol what can I say, man? I''ve been told i'm a pretty recognizable guy 😂
      I like Hot Pursuit the game and videos on it, so you might find me elsewhere lol

    • @kingtiger3390
      @kingtiger3390 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@0047sssss They probably hate it because there's barely anything to the game, and neither the driving or the map itself is interesting enough for most people to encourage just driving around.

  • @SWHSMonsters
    @SWHSMonsters 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Fun fact there is a spiritual successor to Flatout called Trail Out and its a choppy on thevedges but the same adrenaline filled fun

  • @govinlock8568
    @govinlock8568 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    Like Gaben said: "Fun is obtained not throught realism, but reinforcement."

    • @Nordlicht05
      @Nordlicht05 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Games evolve Into simulations. There was a time were people were i to this or that 😅

  • @Dawgzilla_Drift
    @Dawgzilla_Drift 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Fun arcade racers then: Ridge Racer, Motorstorm, Burnout, Flatout, PGR, Midnight Club, wipEout, TXR, too many to count.
    Fun arcade racers now: Uh... TCM, maybe some indie racers, and possibly NFS, if you're somehow still into the new NFS games.

    • @Blas4ublasphemy
      @Blas4ublasphemy 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      New Star GP
      Horizon Chase Turbo
      Mantis Burn Racing
      Hotshot Racing
      Those are all really fun IMO, I happened to think the new Crusin' game was disappointing....

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't forget RedOut!

    • @Blas4ublasphemy
      @Blas4ublasphemy 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alaeriia01 RC De Go!

  • @eurikadude
    @eurikadude 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    BLUR MENTIONED WOOOOO

  • @Ferrichrome
    @Ferrichrome 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Another one that might count would be the WipEout series. It’s an antigrav racer though, which is basically its own genre, but that aside I think it basically meets all the criteria

  • @calebwheeler5781
    @calebwheeler5781 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Another very good video man. If I’m gonna throw my two cents in here I think most popular genres have swayed away from simple games as consoles and PCs get more powerful. Many people don’t look at how fun a game is compared to how much content it has even if it’s not that fun. Looking at you Assassins Creed.

    • @Fastminer07
      @Fastminer07  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yeah that's fair, I got the idea for this video partially from Emplemon's video where he talks about the death of simple games, and even though all the examples he gave were racing games, the idea applies to almost any genre

  • @Hodyna
    @Hodyna 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I miss them really much.
    Wipeout, baby, comeback!
    ...too bad sony closed Studio Liverpool.

  • @SamTheMan666
    @SamTheMan666 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I miss blur so much, i remember playing with my friends and cousins.

  • @CptSourcebird
    @CptSourcebird 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    That reference you made with the thumbnail alone is pure cinema. I actually genuinely hope for you to keep getting further success despite not watching the video yet.

  • @croutonofdoom1
    @croutonofdoom1 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I'll never forget when split second and Blur came out. Loved them.

  • @bjaarki
    @bjaarki 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Was happy to see the Night Runners clip near the end, one I'm really excited for.

  • @NSXTypeRGTRLM
    @NSXTypeRGTRLM 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I’m sad about the changes Gran Turismo has gone through over the years. I loved GT3 through 5 but once 6 came around I really didn’t like it. I never picked up Gran Turismo Sport or GT7.

    • @kyledodson2992
      @kyledodson2992 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      GT7 is great as long as you go into it and let go of the fact that you won’t have the old school career/license grind style campaign. (I just replay GT4 when I need my fix) but gT7 in VR with a wheel is something I play at least 2-3 times a month

    • @kingtiger3390
      @kingtiger3390 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      GT went in the direction of a game all about racing itself instead of a collectathon all about cars, and it's understandable as nowadays it would be hard to pull carlists that are impressive enough compared to the competition, and the racing itself is some of the best wheel to wheel you can get outside of more serious sims out there. I'm glad they did what they did, because it let them not fade into irrelevance like Forza Motorsport.

  • @andrewkeeping5267
    @andrewkeeping5267 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Boost mechanic also was in a Wii launch title racing game called Excite Truck, which was released in 2006. It functions the exact same way with boosting too long blowing up your car and driving through water cooling it. The UI even looks similar.
    Edit: Also, FUEL Mentioned.

  • @Paulowpalace
    @Paulowpalace 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Blur can still have a sequel, just get rid of the license cars and songs, replace them with unique or replicated cars, get a banger composer for the music, tell Activision they have a Mario Kart Killer, Market and Release!

    • @Fastminer07
      @Fastminer07  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Realistically, I don't think we're gonna have a 'Mario Kart Killer" unless Nintendo literally goes under, but it would be nice to see a genuine competitor with it, I feel like we haven't had one since the 90's

    • @AB-fr2ei
      @AB-fr2ei 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hell no
      I want to have real cars

    • @nostalgigamer
      @nostalgigamer 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This!
      To get back to the Blur we love, someone else may have to buy the license and use replicas like Burnout to save money and concentrate on the gameplay. Once it's a hit, they will have the budget for licensed cars and boom, the Blur sequel we need.

    • @Paulowpalace
      @Paulowpalace 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nostalgigamer @AB-fr2ei As much as I would love license cars and songs in Blur, they are an attractive ticking time bomb. Once the licenses run out, they will be D-listed until they can renew the licenses again. Just look at every Forza, NFS, Gran Turismo game we can't buy legally anymore, GTA can't even get their songs back for a remaster. Meanwhile Split Second is still purchasable!
      Just do what CarX does, model the real life car and then debadge it and give it a different name, COD does the same thing with their guns.

  • @skyfox7969
    @skyfox7969 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Bonus points that you mentioned split/second! By far one of my favourite arcade racing games BUT I did use a trainer to always have a full power up bar lol

  • @panchri
    @panchri 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    One indie simple racer I like to give a shout out is Inertial Drift. A blend of night time street racing with Ridge racer 4 and unique twinstick control scheme for drifting.

  • @ADAM-xp2mu
    @ADAM-xp2mu 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ahh Ridge Racer PSP, my introduction to racing games as a whole, leaving me astonished with the style that it presents, then hearing the RRT4 intro, it was marvellous. I really wished Bandai Nampo would look back into redoing a ridge racer game

  • @_Matt_Matt_365_
    @_Matt_Matt_365_ 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I appreciate you mentioning the names of such memorable franchises! Thanks for introducing me to games i didn't know, and helping to preserve the name and history of these games!

  • @rlas
    @rlas 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I want a good looking game. Doesn't necessarily mean it has to look realistic. Unfortunately real life optics seem to be the ultimate goal today.

  • @charliecope1144
    @charliecope1144 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I still want the Choro Q games to make a comeback or someone to make a new version with that style. Such underrated little gems that have so much charm, Gadget Racers, Road Trip Adventure and Penny Racers are all bangers

  • @mahj
    @mahj 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The object collision in Flatout being weird can be explained: the wheels don't interact with the loose debris on the track, only the car body does. Once you figure that out, collisions get a lot more predictable.

  • @blenderpunk2077
    @blenderpunk2077 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is the exact reason why I consider both Most Wanted and Hot Pursuit (2010) to be the peak of NFS franchise. Hot Pursuit 2010 is the most simple and straightforward NFS game I have ever played, and it had the best car list I have ever seen in a racing game. Although Most Wanted had an open-world design and customization, It was still very simple. Every technique was easy to learn, the game in very straightforward, and heck even the customization system was very simple. We can put Most Wanted 2012 and NFS Rivals next in the line as second tier games in the franchise alongside with 80% of the classic era titles.

    • @Fastminer07
      @Fastminer07  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tbh, I don't think those NFSs are that much simpler than the early black box era (HP2-UG2), and the objective simplest NFSs are the classic era from the 90s. HP10 and MW12 also lack any kind of quick race, which was a staple of these simpler games.

  • @Axle0Bullitt019
    @Axle0Bullitt019 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Another excellent video. Really happy to see Motorstorm in this review as I feel it is way to frequently neglected likely due to exclusivity. One of my favorite things to do in that game is using the boost to the point of destruction of the vehicle as your wreckage would still trip the start finish and at least in the first game it usually resulted in your wreckage getting a forward boost to the line. I had actually got some use out of it in the later races of the game. Also I am not sure if you have heard of it but for a quality indy racer that came out recently that I noticed you didn't mention, Might I recommend Art of Rally. Made by the creators of Absolute Drift with a more refined physics engine, downright awesome music, and an alternate history spin on rally with group b not getting axed and group s proceeding accordingly. It was pure delight after about 10 or so minutes adjusting to the high camera perspective. I know there are PC mods for it that give it a more "Normal" 3rd person perspective as well.
    th-cam.com/video/bQjhP0uGc8I/w-d-xo.html

  • @callmejay360
    @callmejay360 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Motorstorm Apocalypse is my favorite one due to the crazy spectacle they pulled off with the PS3, but that’s also it’s downfall because once you see it a few times, it no longer feels like a spectacle.
    Still very impressive to see.

    • @kyledodson2992
      @kyledodson2992 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I love those games too, but I think Pacific rift would be my favorite. Felt like I crashed too much into stuff with all that was going on in apocalypse. Still love it tho

    • @scarvideos1833
      @scarvideos1833 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I still play Apocalypse to this day. Its a timeless racer, and somehow runs better than Pacific Rift. The main thing holding it back is the fact that they locked customizatiom behind the multiplayer, which is never a good idea tbh

  • @ReconX92
    @ReconX92 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Did not know about the Blur Hz sound issue, thanks man! Great vid as always!

  • @Roy8012_RBX
    @Roy8012_RBX 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Been finally looking forward for mentions of Ridge Racer and Blur! You did a fantastic job with the R4 music being included.
    Another bit I liked about Blur were the characters, even though there's not much to them. But it turns out it used to have an actual Story Mode with cutscenes that revolved around a group of characters traveling around the world, meeting new rivals. And it always bothered me how all of it got scrapped since it seems like it was more or less ready. It definitely would've made the career much more interesting to go through rather than the brief introductions to the events being set up by set characters. I actually played a mobile version of Blur so I even learned about characters that originally don't exist (or rather, not introduced) like Weaving, Jun, and Odalis.
    And for Ridge Racer, there's not much to say, I always love those cars and I still see them pop up every now and then in another Bandai Namco game. It's style is irreplaceable, and I still vibe to it's music whenever I get the chance to.
    Absolutely cooked, man. Can't wait for your next video.

  • @mockingjay8098
    @mockingjay8098 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    28:09 hearing you talk about this specific type of boost mechanic reminds me of another game that had it, It's called 'distance: survival racing'. It's not a racing game but I think you should definitely look into it if you have time.
    great video as always!

  • @4tspoon843
    @4tspoon843 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i feel like ambition is making us lose care and love for racing games, we really should start not searching for the full experience that doesn’t excel in anything particular in every single game but enjoying and creating fairly “limited” and very creative titles.
    Love the focus on music on this one, keep going

  • @Hords
    @Hords 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    God i wish Bugbear would make their game engine something we could buy and build games off. It's so perfect for arcade racing games.

  • @ronton9122
    @ronton9122 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I forgot how good Ridge Racer 4 is as a total package.

    • @Fastminer07
      @Fastminer07  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The campaign is a little lacking, and unlike modern racers, there's no customization or tuning, but outside of that, it's still an amazing experience

  • @motordragon1975
    @motordragon1975 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Not exactly a racing game but Onrush had this effect for me. It was simple and easy to learn, hard to master.
    With an interesting spin on rally racing. Though it would have benefitted from a lap racing mode or two.
    I loved Onrush when I played it from launch. I can also understand why it fell through.

  • @LongTimeAgoNL
    @LongTimeAgoNL 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Amazing video!
    Just a few shortcomings on Split/Second though!
    As someone who owns the game on Xbox 360 and on PC because I simply love it (and it was friggin cheap on Steam once), it is a bit deeper than you initially let on.
    But yes, the game is completely borked graphics/controls wise unless you use a 1080p screen with an Xbox 360 controller. It's like a direct 360 port.
    1. The actions/traps/shortcuts arent supposed to be a "you always wreck your opponents with it"-card. You need to select and carefully choose which ones you use throughout a race. Besides that, most tracks allow you to completely alter a course by waiting for the bar to fill up right to the end and then hitting that one. Sometimes a massive thing happens that will wreck everyone or it will 'only' change the course completely. This really changes up the strategy completely and makes the game slightly less boring because it will open up a whole new way to drive through a track.
    2. There are 3 types of cars: The grippy racers, the slidey drifters and the burly can-take-a-few-hits SUVs. The stats dont really line up with how they drive though. And fun fact: If you are good at drifting, you can drift faster than you can drive straight... Which is ridiculous, but fun in a way. Also, the drifters are just OP and they dont understeer as nearly as much as the other 2.
    The game feels like it was completely rushed out to market only to let it die slowly... Which is sad. Because there is a whole story element attached to it. A whole sort of "death race-esque" vibe where the racing crash/death spectacle became the number 1 program on TV with sponsors, bets and more. They hint towards these cut story content a lot, but you are never able to experience it fully...
    And if you want to experience Flatout (1, 2 + ultimate carnage) in all its glory: Trail Out and Wreckfest. (Altough Wreckfest is more of a "simcade" so to speak). But you covered Wreckfest. But not Trail Out ;)

  • @bluedealer
    @bluedealer 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A racing games video with Sonic music? Best. Video. Ever.

  • @ablationer
    @ablationer 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Astounded you didn't even mention Rage Racer (aka Ridge Racer 3) it has the same type of vibe, but a pseudo-Gran Turismo approach with its career mode, money, and tuning. Also the very first instance of a "decal editor" that I can remember. As always, it also has a banging soundtrack.

  • @Turbo_J_Automotive
    @Turbo_J_Automotive 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As Much as I will Geek out about how much I LOVE Split/Second, I can understand why some people don't like it. The A.I. Not being 1 shot, no Boost to aid Acceleration and the Drifting especially being wonky as hell. Personally, I find that to be part of the game's charm. Unpredictability and Strategic thinking. Hmm.. That probably explains why I love BLUR so much too.

  • @matteoziegler7632
    @matteoziegler7632 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Talking about Motorstorm. I only played Apocalypse but I love it so much. Its enviromental destruction and crazy tracks are a blast to drive through (altough they can be a bit irritating at first) and the disc version of the game has a little story which i actually kinda enjoyed

  • @foxdancemedia
    @foxdancemedia 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    as for the problems you had with flatout 2's stunt mode, it's not made very clear by the game but using the control stick to adjust your ragdoll's trajectory slows down your forwards momentum slightly, which you can sometimes use to your advantage.

  • @derpedfox
    @derpedfox 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this is why I love Dirt Rally, even though it's a sim, the process is just select an event, select a car, and then go race

  • @satnav1980
    @satnav1980 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The arcade version of Ridge Racer had a 6 speed gearbox and a clutch. It was so the coolest thing I had seen in gaming up to that point.

  • @VEC7ORlt
    @VEC7ORlt 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    That little interlude at 9:00 took me somewhere familiar, warm and fuzzy, yet I haven't played Ridge Racer.

  • @Eggyteevee
    @Eggyteevee 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Honestly I didnt gave much to Ridge Racer, but after listening to the soundtrack I felt like someone slapped me with a saxophone on the face, and I like it. I find unreal how a _racing_ game, a genre not even that large compared to other genres has that level of musical quality

  • @vvstream
    @vvstream 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ridge Racer 4 is fantastic and no stress on this because games evolve, our experience and tastes too, and you always can go retrogaming and emulation 😉

  • @feycee
    @feycee 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Holy cow, I got fullbody goosebumps at the Ridge Racer 4 intro. Brings back memories…

  • @n3er0o
    @n3er0o 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like "Excite Truck" for Wii also perfectly fits this genre. It's the definition of a pick up and play racing game that basically anyone understands immediately, but has some pretty good depth to it once you get into it. Loved that game as a kid. Remember playing it so much with my brother around the Christmas holidays that my mum got sick of hearing the engine sounds all day lmao

  • @TeamCGS2005
    @TeamCGS2005 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I remember buying Ridge Racer Type 4 together with the Jogcon. The Jogcon was in all honesty a complete gimmick and it wasn't good at controlling the vehicle. I also couldn't get into the game either but like you appreciated it for it's art style. I remember selling it at a games store for the same price I'd bought it many years earlier though it's probably worth a lot more now.

    • @dj4monie
      @dj4monie 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jogcon worked well and worked with other games. It makes drifting easier to control with Type 4, even the original game.

  • @TommyCrosby
    @TommyCrosby 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    BLUR reminds me of NASCAR Rumble for the PS1.
    It was a weird game featuring NASCAR cars but no oval racing and power ups. (ie: it is not a NASCAR game)
    I loved that game when I was young.

  • @braxaculee
    @braxaculee 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That ridgeracer song is incredible. I wish games were produced with this much soul today…

  • @knucklestheechidna5718
    @knucklestheechidna5718 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I absolutely love RR4. The music, the time it's set in, and the actual gameplay. The only drawback is how short it is

  • @DieselWeasel
    @DieselWeasel 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So glad you mentioned Hotshot Racing at the end. Not enough people know about that one.

  • @Chrisii
    @Chrisii 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love FlatOut 2 but tbh I never really played the "normal" race mode. Stunt and Derby mode were so much fun that i just stuck to them.

  • @RynerLite
    @RynerLite 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ridge Racer Type 4 for me is amazing.
    I also noticed some of your videos is using the music from this game.
    That "Move Me" music (6:45) from the game is the one I always use in the Final of Grand Prix Mode when completing all the teams. That feeling when the music plays really just hit different that I can't just explain how well it is back when I was a kid.
    Until now I play the game again as an adult, understanding the small story of this game then I've realized why this music hits me deep and it became one of my best nostalgia ever.
    In the Grand Prix mode, the Real Racing Roots '99 Grand Prix Final was set to be in the night on December 31st, 1999. Fireworks being sent off the sky in the final lap of the race to pump out the last moments of Real Racing Roots '99, together with the New Year's Eve celebration. That momentum + "Move Me" music + The win, plus the changing era to 2000. That combo is something I can't forgot for such a simple game.

  • @filmcameras4evr45
    @filmcameras4evr45 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As one of the people who mentioned Flatout before...
    Woooo, finally!
    Shame you didn't enjoy the soundtrack loads (I admit Nickleback was an unusual choice but I'll argue that Flat on the Floor is one of their best songs) but glad you enjoyed it.
    It's surprisingly how well the damage model has held up after all this time tbh.
    I played the hell out of Wreckfest too when i got that, and im very much hoping they make a sequal.. it certainly did well enough to justify one.

  • @Vermilleno
    @Vermilleno 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I know that this is a 'racing game' video, and I know that you may perhaps not be all that interested in games I'm about to talk about but... one of those genres, simulators, has two games I am especially fond of for reasons that those games are simple on the surface, but absolutely revel in their complexity.
    I wish you would at some point talk about Euro Truck Simulator 2 and American Truck Simulator. Those games are absolute epitome of quality and their chill, relaxing gameplay is simply unmatched by other very 'try hard' simulators that fail to emulate what SCS Software has done.
    I believe the history and constant support over nearly 12 years of this game on the market, how it changed and keeps changing is worth talking about, because it's fascinating.

    • @Fastminer07
      @Fastminer07  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's not really my kind of thing, but i definitely can get the appeal of it, and I might even make a dedicated video on it at some point.

  • @relax4531
    @relax4531 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    cant forget burnout too i feel like so many games wanna be simulators nowadays

  • @Shralla
    @Shralla 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    RIP Blur, absolutely one of the greatest racing games of all time. Incredibly underrated.

  • @chaospxl_
    @chaospxl_ 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    As someone who has played Flatout 2 and FlatOut UC, i can honestly say that this was, and still is, one of the best-aging racing games ive ever played. it's timeless in its own right.

    • @mr.wilder796
      @mr.wilder796 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The thing that holds flatout 1 and 2 back from being truly great is their difficulty. They are simply too difficult for the general racing fan. The frustration/fun ratio is ill-adjusted too far to the frustration side. I've found this true with most bugbear games...as great as they are.

  • @bliglum
    @bliglum 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sega Rally Championship was the best "Simple Racing Game" IMHO.
    Such great control, much better and more gradual than Ridge Racer's on-rails to on-ice feel.

    • @Fastminer07
      @Fastminer07  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wanted to cover it too, but Saturn emulation is abysmal, and I don't know almost anything about Arcade emulation

    • @bliglum
      @bliglum 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Fastminer07 Yeah. It's a shame, some of Sega's best games are being lost and forgotten.

  • @ccubsfan94
    @ccubsfan94 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Your description of Blur, and feel of this video reminds me so much of Downhill Domination. It wasn't a bike simulator, it was a game. And was fun as hell, learn a few sections or just multiscreen battle your buddies in the bowl, it was always a blast

  • @Sandstorm366
    @Sandstorm366 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The secret to FlatOut's sports events is not to hold the stick forward. The aerobatics slow you down.
    Took me way too long as a kid to figure that one out.

  • @daniel-w-hall
    @daniel-w-hall 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Funny to see this video when I just started working on a rally game that is "simple" this morning.

  • @marioshroom1
    @marioshroom1 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Split second drift physics are aggravating at best… BUT, when you run a clean lap with smooth drifts it is satisfying. I don’t know why I never had Blur in my collection. I think I might try it out. I’ve been seeing more YT content on it lately.

  • @justingriffith9256
    @justingriffith9256 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I watched this while playing Forza Motorsport 6 keep up the great work

  • @mathattaque
    @mathattaque 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really gudddd video I agree it's insane how no one knows of Ridgeracer's ost it's banger on banger.
    Also are you planning on making a Nightrunner video ?because it might be some saving grace when it releases

  • @purpledurtysprite
    @purpledurtysprite 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i literally downloaded a ps2 emulator a few years ago just to play ridge racer V and it still holds up tremendously

  • @kylecrouse4693
    @kylecrouse4693 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One series you missed on your list (that I've been coincidentally playing through in full recently) is the Rush games: San Francisco Rush, Rush 2, and Rush 2049. They focus more on searching each track to find shortcuts and secrets, and pulling off over the top stunts (which the series took advantage of after the first game by introducing a dedicated Stunt Mode.) The main gimmick of the franchise is "moon" gravity, letting you catch massive air off even the smallest jump. There are no licensed cars or anything, but it's a very fun and stylish series in the vein of the other ones you talked about in this video.

  • @gurt416
    @gurt416 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My fav youtuber fr i watched all of your videos more than 3 times by now
    And also can you do a video on driveclub?

  • @astreakaito5625
    @astreakaito5625 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I miss Ridge Racer. I miss Motorstorm. I miss Wipeout. I miss TXR.
    :(
    Also at least Motorstorm's boost mechanic came back in Redout 2 (another very underrated racing game)

  • @Cavi587
    @Cavi587 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ngl I love sims so much and don't care about simple racing games much these days. But I do have to agree that these kinds of games are my childhood and it's sad to see the current landscape. When I see that a game is always online, multiplayer focused with lootboxes and microtransactions... I die a little inside.
    I remember countless hours spent at playing FlatOut, holy hell man. Simply can't do it with any Forza or NFS now.

  • @jordanb.6822
    @jordanb.6822 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember I wanted Blur and Split Second, because of the Trailers. I never got to play them until 2024 and they became one of my favorite racing games ever. I really wish we can have that creativity to racing games

  • @RetroRangerReviews88
    @RetroRangerReviews88 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Your perspective on RR4 couldn’t be more accurate.

  • @tristantuyn8703
    @tristantuyn8703 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I loved both blur and split second. Almost all cars in blur cool cars I'd never seen before, and almost all where so unique and so different from each other.
    And split second felt so insanely fast and thrilling, I remember really enjoying the way they drive. And the big scenes you could do once you filled up all 3 bars where so insane looking and changed the entire track mid race.

  • @chrism869
    @chrism869 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Blur ,Split second and flatout 2 were my childhood racing games ,I used to play them for hours.

  • @_Matt_Matt_365_
    @_Matt_Matt_365_ 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Loved this video! I'm so happy u mentioned Blur! That game doesn't game as much recognition as it deserves! Me and my boys would go to a video game club (like an arcade but with PS3s, PS4s, Xbox 360s and Xbox Ones) to play Blur and couple other game. But Blur was the onlyracing game we played. Eventho couple of us had Xbox 360s with enough controllers to host 4 to 6 ppl, we'd still rather head to the videogame club cuz it was a whole new level of fun.

  • @FreezeMango-BlazeLychee
    @FreezeMango-BlazeLychee 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    my most favourite racer in general besides gt4 is the outrun 2 series
    the absolute charm of every version is pure awesomeness, the controls, especially in the arcade version, are like butter. And omg the style and music - the very best there is.
    Hoping for a remaster of Outrun 2 on modern platforms🙏

  • @teertaa
    @teertaa 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ridge racer influences multiple indie racing games either partially or completely.
    One of the completely influenced games is inertial drift. You start the game and immediately doing touge style time attack/racing.
    the other thing they influences underground djs and music artists like music in nightrunners prologue beta/trial. Also lowkey thinking that both grid series (especially 1 and 2) are might be influenced by ridge racers since the meta lines/cornering are drifting

  • @Splatty007
    @Splatty007 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I loved both of the juiced games they were just so simple and fun to me. Currently playing through juiced 2 now and it’s like how did move away from those types of games 😔