Loretta lynns champ rips a 1983 maico spider 490.
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- Finally riding my vintage 1983 maico 490 sand spider after 5 years of being in my possession. Riding this big bore motocross bike out at airway mx park. Loretta lynn champ rips vintage bike
Absolutely respect to anyone who can start one of these things with their left leg!
Best to stand on the left side and use your booted right leg 👍
Those bikes were so very far ahead of their time and the rest of the bikes of that time period it was crazy.
I was an apprentice at Maico and the owner of an MC 440. Due to the expected Kickstarter setback, we had a different starting procedure. Tilt the motorcycle slightly on its side, step on the kick starter with your right foot and then, hopefully in time, let your foot slide backwards off the kick starter immediately after the step. We were always warned that some US boys broke their foot while kicking a Maico 😉
I strongly recommend you fit and use a decompressor valve ,two reasons are it makes it easier to start and takes away some of the strain from kickstart pedal and mechanism . This tip is relevant for all Maico open class engines .
I had a 490 Alpha 1 for eight years and never had any problems kick starting it if temperature was above freezing.
You have to use tickler until fuel comes out overflow pipes (rotate them on spigots so they are pointing up)
It was incredibly stable at speed but pretty useless on a 'super-cross' type track with a lot of tight turns
@@1crazypj Yep , ALPHA one totally different engine but same applies , you must have and use a decomp valve for starting.
@@davew9360 Only real difference was reed valves on the later Maico motor.
Nope, I never used decompressor after first few days. The main problem I've found is people try and start four-stroke and open class MX bikes like they were worn out 125cc two stokes and 'slap kick' instead of kick-starting properly.
I remember doing an MOT (British vehicle safety inspection) on a Vincent Rapide 1000cc V-twin back in the 80's.
Owner said I could ride it if I could start it. He didn't know I had learned to kick-start my fathers Panther 120 (650 single with 'half compression' cam plus a de-compressor for starting. My father always removed de-compressor as a 'security measure'. I first tried when I was 14, at that time it launched me over the bars but I was probably only 85 lbs at the time.
If you know what your doing, you won't have problems, even the notorious Yamaha DT175 kickstarts lasted fi9ne (it was pretty weak being designed for a 100cc motor originally)
@@1crazypj Reed valve was a factory option on 1981 open class motors and standard on 1983 on all MAICO engines . Upto 1982 and 1983 motors are totaly different ,earlier are primary chain drive and later are gear drive with totaly different gears ,clutch and casings etc. As I say it is essential to have and to use a decomp valve on an open class MAICO. Decomp valve on a four stroke is a totaly different thing and is not used in the same way.
@@davew9360 I had it 8 years, never had kickstart problems.
know the difference between four stroke and two stroke decompressor use (after all, I've been working on bikes since 1968 including at Honda, Suzuki, BMW, Vespa, MZ and Yamaha multi line dealers where I eneded up running workshops) I also worked on majority of European dirt bikes (OSSA, Montessa, Various small manufacturers I can't even remeber the names) as I was in Britain.
I did not specialise however and though it was only the factory bikes available with reed valve in 1981/82? I do have a set of factory front forks, about an extra 30mm travel compared to the production bikes
You have to "tickle" the bing carb! My Dad owned 11 Maico's. Use your two fingers to block each of the overflow hoses on the carb. Then depress the black drain / tickle button to flow fuel into the carb. Should then only take 3 kicks at max to start.
You have to flood big two stokes by laying them over.
You can see why many ankles and kick start get broke.
Motomadandy 62 old school mx😂
The chain is too tight, it gets tighter at mid stroke of travel, I pull the shock and run it thru the range of travel to find where adjustment needs to be set. I do that on any of the Maico's I work on, single or twin shock, takes the stress off of the counter shaft overting engine damage. Have fun on the 490, FYI 82-83 had a very heavy swingarm, there was an aftermarket aluminum swingarm available back in the day if you can find one to shave some weight.
Yeah it is a bit tight but beautiful bike looks good
Put a ratchet strap over frame with the seat off (so you don't destroy cover, foam or base) and line up the sprocket center, swing arm pivot bolt and axle bolt, When they are in line it's the tightest position. It's something good to know if you work on bikes, particularly Busa's, Kawasaki etc with a 8"--12" extension bolted on swing arm to play drag racer
I'm going to the kitchen for a sandwich..........Let me know when he gets it fired!!
Yeah in florida in 81 i got one from nick pelham after i dropped my team green uni swaps..never lost on that bike...took some 15 year old kid with me to a race named james stewart...i guess his kid was fast they say
I had a 1980 model , you had to lay it over till gas ran out of the carb overflow tube then kick
Dude you gotta lay it on its side for about 5 sec first then they'll fire.
The rear suspension stinks on that year. Twin shock set up much better . You ride it so good
Four strokes sound crap 😂
You had to be a MAN to ride ( or even start these bikes ) bikes back in the day for sure.
Your chain is way too tight
Magoo rode one beast of a bike
The piston ported motor had a surprising amount of torque considering it made quite a lot of power
Magoo was the GOAT!!! I HAVE had MAICOS MY whole LIFE!! KAPLAN AINT THAT. SMART!!!
40 years ago I stood on the left side and kicked with the right leg. Looks good.
That’s exactly how I started my cr480 Honda…lol..
I just sat on it and kicked left footed after a few months 'practicing'
@@rustymullins6623I’d looked to find an 83’ CR480 the last of the Elsinore’s that 5 spd really made a difference 🐾✌️🇺🇸
@@deborahchesser7375 now that I remember….mine was a 4 speed…82 model…you could still pull 3rd gear starts and dig a ditch in the process! Haha
@@rustymullins6623 I’d like to keep an old open class two stroke around for the BS’rs lol, you know, the guys that used to be great but you’ve never seen them on a bike 😆
Une moto d'homme il faut avoir des gros mollets pour la démarrer 🦵💪❗😂
Fast forward to 4:00 you’re welcome
Your good on a bike good luck love and respect from England 🏴
That's my stomping grounds
It was so cool to see you out there riding that thing!
👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰😘😘😍😍
Nice bike, it's nice to see people rebuilding old bikes like these, very cool 👍
Great bike enjoy!
Sick bike man & cool that you're ripping it.
That's one mean mochine
The years when motocross smelt good
from the great days before most of a lap was in the air...
Raced a 83CR480 which was a left side kick as well ,alot easier to stand off of it and kick it over using your right leg instead of left 💪👍
I owned 2 of these exact year bikes & had a ball with them. One of the best bikes I've ever owned & I had a bunch of different makes & models. The sand spider lives on !
Wicked bike had in 1990 was awsome bought an 87 rm 250 after it much better brakes but no same power
👍👍👍😜🏴🦕🦄😁✌️🤞
Ps thanks for sharing video
Bass ackwards
You looked good imagine the bikes you raced against were kx420s and yz 465s that wouldnt turn...freakin top shelf works bike in 81
Watched one of your motos on the live stream, freaking awesome dude! That was truly impressive
Beautiful
Sweet
Had to start that for your uncle all the time. Needs the right touch. Did it like you did, on bike left foot. Don’t think that dike has ever been ridden that fast. Had a 250 same year, wish I still had it. Like another poster said ,chain adjustment very important on that bike. Not to tight ,will damage output bearing or rear hub, but not to loose because those stock swing arms flexed a lot. I put a Wheelsmith aluminum on my 250. Helped a lot. My chain used to come off all the time.
Yeah bike was super fun. Thing rips and has tons of power. Good gearing too being a 4 speed. And yeah i need to adjust the chain for sure!
Thought Dan made a chain tensioner for that. Maybe put that on
Man when I was a kid growing up and that bike first came out I always wanted it now I'm jealous somebody else has it😮👍👍👍😁
Before u try and start it....lean it over until the gas flows out the over flow on the carburetor. Beautiful machine. Thanks for the video.
Was thinking the same thing when he was trying to start it. I've got two bultacos won't go unless you lay them over and let some fuel run out.
Lean to left-side to help start?
How tall are you to make a 490 look like a 125?
I'm 5' 11".
Bike had had a few modifications and made 63bhp so significantly more power than modern open class four strokes
Chain looks a bit tight, best way to adjust it is compress suspension so sprocket, swing arm pivot and rear axle are all in line then set about 3/8"slack,
I had Corte Cosso rear shock (as used by Ferrari) It had been re-built and re-valved and really needed it
Corte Cosso found out off road motorcycles give shock a very hard time and went back to doing car stuff
That bike is ganna be worth twice as much as a ktm one of these days. I bet you’d get just as much for one parting it out. Nice bike
You mentioned its age in the famous words of Capt Pete Mitchell it’s not the plane it’s the pilot!
The red dream!!! Whhaaa que bella!!👏👏👏😀
Richard d'la Yaute👍😎🇫🇷🏁
Good job! your riding that 40 year old Maico like a modern bike.
I wish maico made 3 wheelers too. Imagine a 490 spider 3 wheelers parked next to bike ready to ride
Tighten bolts constantly...dude you were fast and looked like me
cool to see you get that old Iron out there.... Like you said for her age she rips. can tell it doesn't take much to get the wheel light. 👍
Let me help all the kids that think it's cool to have a open bike these days....
Gas On
Choke on (Or tickle it in the case of a Maico)
Put it in 2nd gear
Rock it back and forth a few times
Kick it like you mean it
And adjust that chain before it pulls the countershaft out of the cases...
Mate shesa fukn Beast! 😍 id love one. Got some nice air too!! 💪🏼👊🏼 subd 🎨
always starts on the 10th kick, never got the left side kick?
Where’s your case saver due
Rather have the chain take out the plastic cover. They rip the case half off. I own two bike that are missing a chunk of the case where the threads are. Bought them that way but with that engine design i dont think it benefits it to have it on.
Sitting here watching it try to start it saying lay it down until fuel comes out of the Overflow it'll start a lot easier
Back in the 70s the golden age of motocross all those awesome European bikes bultaco ossa montesa cz can am & many more maico was always a few steps ahead of most of them I always wanted a maico but I had to settle for a cz and so it goes Maico#1
Like a new KTM but better, music to my ears lol
Great Vid, nice riding, you can tell the suspension is smooth! 👍
The 83 is why the company collapse the back wheel and gearbox used to explode so I'd check that our
I was wondering how this would actually play out in real life:
So they're trying to install the rear shock on the new prototype and the darn thing won't fit at all. (...according to the story)
Do you think the Maico engineers would:
A) Redesign the shock mount with the proper dimensions BEFORE greenlighting mass production
OR
B) Just "hammer the shock into the mount" on the prototype and tell the workers to do the same on every one of the next 1000 bikes...?
@@bearcatXF you would think a but that will cost money and when the two bosses are at eachothers throats and looking for any excuse to fight then it could be b
@@adamrobson80 Not quite sure I understand you. Are you saying you believe engineers at Maico built a prototype in which the shock mount was so far off that the shock had to be "hammered into the mount with a large brass hammer", didn't bother to fix it so that even the prototype functioned properly and just told the welders, "Yeah, it's good. Go ahead and weld up the rest of this year's batch of bikes using these dimensions and design. [1,500 to 2,000 frames] We'll just hammer those into place too because it'll cost us less to ruin this year's entire production run and Maico's reputation than to fix this one prototype we've built." ? ? ?
The base of the shock had an open clevis style end, one edge has a cutout the other doesn't, if this is rotated to face the opposite,, or wrong way, it contacts with the suspension linkage, but only when the suspension is compressed, this caught a few people out and eventually fractured and broke the end off the shock. The remaining 'stain' still hasn't washed out!
As they say,,, you're only as good as your last fu£k up.
You've obviously never tried to start to make go before you have to use your right leg stand on the left side of the bike you'll never start it like that
I start it with my left all the time. Usually 3rd kick. That was the first start in a couple years with the engine being fogged
Nice bike pretty sure I couldn’t ride it that well either!
Killing it on that beautiful old girl. Nice
It looks good it does work it looks like it was meant to be like that don't change it to much because it's really cool 😎
My dad still has his old 1994 kx250. I'm a die hard Yamaha guy but I get on his old kx from time to time and man, that must have been a revolutionary motorcycle back then. I mean we put v force reeds on it, race tech gold valves and stiffer springs, pro circuit rear linkage, D1h top and bottom t clamps, pastrana bend pro tapers (his mx bend not his freestyle bend) nak head, pro circuit works expansion chamber and r1304 silencer, new lectron billet carb, black excel wheels with purple talon hubs, and it has a 2014 yz250 rear shock because they just work. We're gonna go with some 52mm kayaba bumper forks on the front in the near future because the forks are the weak link they flex a lot when I ride it 10/10ths (I'm a 6'5 240 pound top 3 guy in our local vet pro class) and it stretches hardware. It's the weirdest thing and its not the t clamps. It did it WAAAY worse with the OE ones these d1h actually helped a lot but, they're just not up to the task I think it's because we're running such stiff springs too my dad and i really prefer a very rigid setup as the tracks around here arent rough they're just all jumps. But I love that old kx man we put black 2002 plastics on it, i powdercoated the frame this metallic kawi green, pulled the stock seat foam off my 2023 yz250 2 stroke because i always have to run a tall guy seat and with a new gripoer seat cover it made such a huge difference. I can't stand a soft seat man. I have a 325 big bore kit in my yz already so my bike just blows it's rad shrouds off but I still love riding it. It probably makes close to 50 hp with all the stuff we've done it's not slow at all. My yz is just an absolute rocketship. I mean I get top 3 finishes in the vet pro class where everyone is riding built 450s the thing is ridiculous.
Sounds like you got some monster bikes! Ive thought of getting one of those 325 kits but they are always out of stock when i can afford to get one.
I grew up with dirt bikes in the 70's. When I watched you trying to kick start it...yup, that's what it was like.
When I watch kids kick start bikes now...1 or 2 kicks WHILE SITTING ON THE SADDLE...and their bikes start right up.
They have no idea how good they've got it.
Thats for sure. Now most of them are electric start. This bike fires up usually first kick once its been running. I drain all the fuel out of the carb if i know i wont be riding it in a few months or so.
that thing is a GROSS polluter!
No clue how to start that bike. S/b 1 kick, properly prepped. Great riding. Great old bike.
That was the first time taking it out in years. She fires right up now. Carb was just a little stuck at first.
There are several videos you should watch if you are interested in Maico and why it went away. Like most great companies that are partnerships. It was doomed once the brothers started to dislike each other. They basically sabotaged the design so one could take control of the company. My understanding was in 1980 or 81 the bike was so much better than everyone else’s that it’s geometry is still copied today. All of the major Japanese manufacturers bought a Maico and reverse, engineered it to make new motorcycles.
Maico is still in business.
Video from Loretta Lynn’s?
Fantastic bike. Great video 👍🇬🇧
Gros mollet pour démarrer une 490 maico
Ripping on that Maico ! Love that bike !
Alpha 1 = The Best !!! 🙂
That is a E.C.Burt pipe
sweet, i love old bikes
Looks awesome !
Did you use the choke on start up,if so its jetted wrong
No just used the tickler. I hadnt started the bike in a year.
What a work of art!!
no woman..
Great machine! Thanks for taking the time to post this.
Hopefully more to come sooner then later.
Miss mine !
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Green plate backing?
he's gonna get yellow... and '83 tank stickers and a red '83 seat that climbs the tank a bit. it's a work in progress.
What did Noleen’s do with your forks? Did they do the Cartridge Conversion or just make changes to the stock Damping Rods?
I cant remember to be honest. I remember them telling me they put some honda parts in and the fork doesent need air now to make adjustments. The schrader valve is now used to bleed off any air pressure.
@@derekvalenzuela492 They did the Cartridge Conversion then. Good to know. I’m struggling deciding to go that route or the Race Tech Gold Valve way.
Peeps still don't know that you stand on the left and use your right boot for starting 😂😂😂
That's from someone that rode in the 80's me
Extra step. Just kick it with your right.
I'm only 5,6 n had 79, 80, 81 ktm 250. Seat was under my knee on start line. Got the holeshot nearly everytime. Nothing of me.
E.C.Birt
Who is this ???
Me
You grow up in Spokane area ?
Clakia,Sandpoint, srp,???? Five fingers ,baldy, becon.....free riding.
Yeah north idaho. Race for 3 years or so and just got out of it.
So much better then the new 4 strokes easy to rebuild and alot of brap
What a rocket
Maicos suck
Cool
FANTASTIC ❤❤❤