Weren't you going to do the whole "culture wars"? You genuine rodent, find a woman lad and keep it to EU4 content, cuz you used to be terrible to listen to whenever you started rambling about politics
One tip that you can use when attacking with damaged fleet (or joining Athens in this video) - you can check individual ship morale by splitting the navy, than you detach low morale ships. They can have low morale after battle even though they aren't much damaged.
Yesterday i lost my entire spanish armada consisting of 100 galleons to some 20 galleys and 50 light ships from venice. This video comes precisely at the right time
just in case if someone need to know what admiral's pips doing. fire/shock are same as in land battle. maneuver 10% engagement width/ 5% trade power/ 5% movement speed, at 6 its gonna be 60%/30%/30% respectfully. siege +10% development blockade per ship. basically less ships needed. exactly speaking 10% of ships per pips (rounded to bigger, because blockade ability depend of Tactical speed ). conclusion if you have big amount of ships maneuver is crucial. if you have naval width accurate stacks, high quality and don't want to reinforce your battles then fire will be better, if you wanna demolish your enemy. shock if you wanna force him to retreat or capture ships.
Maneuver pips also reduce fleet attrition by 1% meaning that at +5 maneuver pips your fleet stops taking atrition from coastal batteries. The extra blockade efficiency from siege pips also means that the maximum income from blockaded ports is increased (i.e. your opponent loses more money, and you gain more money). Note also that +10% blockade efficiency does not equal to -10% ships needed per development as you claim it is.
this guy really knows about the game dudes. Not like all the entretainers noobs who play on normal and savescum but claim they achieve awesome games...
I see. Its a matter of opinions. First, playing with 100% "legal" just feels better dude, try it. And also, we get worked up(or i get worked up) when people CLAIM they are able to do this or that achievment or whatever. "I conquered whatever in whatever years" and then u see he saves scum so that the games matches the progress they want... i mean cmon. U gotta embrace the pain man. The rest is bs@@justkilledit21
funny patch to do this on since ships are broken right now, especially heavies and this is soo sad cuz now the british man o' wars are useless cuz they lose to galleys everywhere and probably also to light ships everywhere. Also ships go red when they hit 0% personal morale and in that state take 10x the damage. Losing ships is also very bad because every ship takes morale damage and with bigger fleets this on most occasions ends up with the side that loses more ships spiraling and losing even more ships. This isnt that big of a problem with smaller fleets because there just 1st isnt enough damage to trigger a spiral and there also arent enough ships for the spiral to happen. You also don't have to leave a battle immediately to cycle, you can stick in there until one of your ships goes red and it is also worth it to cycle a winning battle soo you can sink more ships and not trigger a force retreat.
This is what i feel when play as British new patch, why my heavy doesnt do damage, im outnumber them, have many heavy, but lose again someone spam basque and cog, i have no idea. Hope next patch fix it Edit1 : they fix it in recent patch, 1.35.1
Stategically, it was better to retreat there anyway, since otherwise he'd have lost 1-2 ships needlessly (they were red, thus focus-fired). After reinforcing later on, Athens didn't lose anything and was confortably at 80%+ durability with their ships.
and if you're asking traits, probably naval showman for the naval tradition bonus from battles, since naval tradition is a b*tch to get high, and it has very potent effects (economic boosts too)
The problem with breaking down the most optimal way of fighting is it's never going to be applicable because the country with the better economy is always going to just win by having a bigger fleet. If you're fighting a battle where it's coming down to the wire like this over every ship it's a war you probably shouldn't have started.
ai almost never sends their ships back to reinforce, you can attack them and retreat a couple of times and then you can destroy their fleet. they only send their ships after they lose the battle
This breakdown is made PRECISELY to assist players in being able to tackle nations with bigger fleets, and to better judge their chances. A good player can reliably demolish an AI with 50% bigger fleet than them by carefully chipping the enemy fleet and strategically retreating. At the same time, it allows players to avoid picking naval ideas and still be able to handle AI fleets with those idea sets just fine. When playing in single player (like most people usually do), and you start the game, many nations will have bigger fleet than you do. Simply waiting 'till you overtake them in fleet count isn't really an ideal way to do things. Not to mention, when playing certain small nations, like Byzantium, if you aren't capable of wrestling naval control early from the Ottomans, you'll never be able to overcome their fleet (since their fleet limit is higher, they can build in more provinces at once and they got more money too) and this might just make the run impossible afterwards.
and about navy warfare in general. i don't know why pdx created so complicated naval system, without reasonable need. same as in hoi4 vast majority of players don't understand how this mechanic works. and they will not because just to get basics you need to do too much work. my thought, basic game mechanics should not be so complex. i hope in future they will simplify this part of the game. and more people will be able to operate their fleets properly.
Big Christian nationalist energy. Not surprising after his deleted video about wanting to "fight the culture war". Budget's got good tips but he's a weirdo lmao
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The middle line just showcases ships which are in reserve when you are over the combat width.
Weren't you going to do the whole "culture wars"? You genuine rodent, find a woman lad and keep it to EU4 content, cuz you used to be terrible to listen to whenever you started rambling about politics
One tip that you can use when attacking with damaged fleet (or joining Athens in this video) - you can check individual ship morale by splitting the navy, than you detach low morale ships. They can have low morale after battle even though they aren't much damaged.
Can't wait for your fresh-patch Byz run
That was some premium trolling from the Athens' AI, lmao
8k hours ingame and still learning new things from you about this game.
2.5k hours and when I watch something like this I feel like I've never known nothing
navy was always a aspect of the game i neglected to learn, this was helpful.
Athens' goals are beyond our understanding
Yesterday i lost my entire spanish armada consisting of 100 galleons to some 20 galleys and 50 light ships from venice. This video comes precisely at the right time
It is because in 1.35 heavy ships are bugged. Light ships right now are better than heavy ships in combat
@@KaizerKlash111 yeah, just saw the hotfix. it seems to be good now
all you need to know is that maneuver is sick
and to retreat if your ships take too much damage
SO THAT'S WHY! I always had this feeling that winning the first naval battle of a war was easier, it's because they don't actually have full morale
just in case if someone need to know what admiral's pips doing. fire/shock are same as in land battle. maneuver 10% engagement width/ 5% trade power/ 5% movement speed, at 6 its gonna be 60%/30%/30% respectfully. siege +10% development blockade per ship. basically less ships needed. exactly speaking 10% of ships per pips (rounded to bigger, because blockade ability depend of Tactical speed ). conclusion if you have big amount of ships maneuver is crucial. if you have naval width accurate stacks, high quality and don't want to reinforce your battles then fire will be better, if you wanna demolish your enemy. shock if you wanna force him to retreat or capture ships.
Maneuver pips also reduce fleet attrition by 1% meaning that at +5 maneuver pips your fleet stops taking atrition from coastal batteries. The extra blockade efficiency from siege pips also means that the maximum income from blockaded ports is increased (i.e. your opponent loses more money, and you gain more money). Note also that +10% blockade efficiency does not equal to -10% ships needed per development as you claim it is.
Those were some valuable tips, thanks! Also, I enjoyed seeing you in your Twitch-stream today! 😄
this guy really knows about the game dudes. Not like all the entretainers noobs who play on normal and savescum but claim they achieve awesome games...
Don't insult Ludi :(
I see. Its a matter of opinions. First, playing with 100% "legal" just feels better dude, try it. And also, we get worked up(or i get worked up) when people CLAIM they are able to do this or that achievment or whatever. "I conquered whatever in whatever years" and then u see he saves scum so that the games matches the progress they want... i mean cmon. U gotta embrace the pain man. The rest is bs@@justkilledit21
Great as always!
my naval combat knowledge in this game at almost 4k hours is just throw the 500 ship death stack at the unupgraded 5 transport ships and get warscore
Great video, thanks!
I'm blown away by the fact that the 0.0% morale display bug has been in the game for 2 years now and still hasn't been fixed.
I wanted to see the result of that battle. Damn, I have like half a year without playing EU4, but now I want to return with the recent DLC.
what does the number in the middle of the 0/0/0 means though?
Great video
helpful good thank you
Could you try doing Mehmed's Ambition? It's an incredibly hard achievement, and probably the hardest one in the game in the latest patch
It's not harder. You can use eyelets
@@David-bh7hs okay then
Big help. Thanks.
What does the plus mean on the galleys?
Finally, a god naval guide
could you tell us when do you plan to stream in advance man? keep it up
Join my discord. I always @everyone when I go live. It will make a sound Link in description
what's the combat width of diff types of ships? i know it's different for at least the heavy ones, but idk the numbers
I believe all ships have 1 combat width with the exception of heavies which take up 3.
Nice
Is this before or after the navy calca were bugged?
Naval morale display is still bugged after the hotfix patch.
funny patch to do this on since ships are broken right now, especially heavies and this is soo sad cuz now the british man o' wars are useless cuz they lose to galleys everywhere and probably also to light ships everywhere. Also ships go red when they hit 0% personal morale and in that state take 10x the damage. Losing ships is also very bad because every ship takes morale damage and with bigger fleets this on most occasions ends up with the side that loses more ships spiraling and losing even more ships. This isnt that big of a problem with smaller fleets because there just 1st isnt enough damage to trigger a spiral and there also arent enough ships for the spiral to happen. You also don't have to leave a battle immediately to cycle, you can stick in there until one of your ships goes red and it is also worth it to cycle a winning battle soo you can sink more ships and not trigger a force retreat.
This is what i feel when play as British new patch, why my heavy doesnt do damage, im outnumber them, have many heavy, but lose again someone spam basque and cog, i have no idea. Hope next patch fix it
Edit1 : they fix it in recent patch, 1.35.1
They released a hotfix earlier today fixing naval combat fyi
They just patched naval combat didn't they?
Naval morale display is still bugged after the hotfix patch.
I just spam galleys and dominate the Mediterranean
still learning sruff from all this
I saw Athens lock move and he says he's retreating , NO 😱 (I understand it's just a demo but I still have feelings 😄)
Stategically, it was better to retreat there anyway, since otherwise he'd have lost 1-2 ships needlessly (they were red, thus focus-fired). After reinforcing later on, Athens didn't lose anything and was confortably at 80%+ durability with their ships.
Whats the best atribute on an admiral
Manuveur followed by Fire, Shock then lastly siege.
and if you're asking traits, probably naval showman for the naval tradition bonus from battles, since naval tradition is a b*tch to get high, and it has very potent effects (economic boosts too)
It would be cool if you did a victorum Universalis byzantium. Dont even care about a guide. Just see you wreck stuff
5head AI 🤣🤣🤣
Great stuff as usual. Shame the game doesn't explain it)))
Naval rotations tho
The problem with breaking down the most optimal way of fighting is it's never going to be applicable because the country with the better economy is always going to just win by having a bigger fleet. If you're fighting a battle where it's coming down to the wire like this over every ship it's a war you probably shouldn't have started.
ai almost never sends their ships back to reinforce, you can attack them and retreat a couple of times and then you can destroy their fleet. they only send their ships after they lose the battle
This breakdown is made PRECISELY to assist players in being able to tackle nations with bigger fleets, and to better judge their chances.
A good player can reliably demolish an AI with 50% bigger fleet than them by carefully chipping the enemy fleet and strategically retreating.
At the same time, it allows players to avoid picking naval ideas and still be able to handle AI fleets with those idea sets just fine.
When playing in single player (like most people usually do), and you start the game, many nations will have bigger fleet than you do. Simply waiting 'till you overtake them in fleet count isn't really an ideal way to do things.
Not to mention, when playing certain small nations, like Byzantium, if you aren't capable of wrestling naval control early from the Ottomans, you'll never be able to overcome their fleet (since their fleet limit is higher, they can build in more provinces at once and they got more money too) and this might just make the run impossible afterwards.
and about navy warfare in general. i don't know why pdx created so complicated naval system, without reasonable need. same as in hoi4 vast majority of players don't understand how this mechanic works. and they will not because just to get basics you need to do too much work. my thought, basic game mechanics should not be so complex. i hope in future they will simplify this part of the game. and more people will be able to operate their fleets properly.
lol always playing byzantium
Big Christian nationalist energy. Not surprising after his deleted video about wanting to "fight the culture war". Budget's got good tips but he's a weirdo lmao