I'd forgotten how much I loved this video and how very useful it was to real hunters, excellent, John, posted to several mates who have been wondering about the effectiveness of slingshots as a hunting tool. Real lesson from a real hunter, nice one lad. Baz
Just bought some 12.7mm steel ball and your gamekeeper hunting bands for my first slingshot that I made by hand; exited to have them ship in and get into slingshot hunting!
@we66y357 yeah i prefere the larger ammo aswell, it takes some serious power to go through all that meat, also theres the ribcage that it had to go through, i think a gamekeeper catapult and 12mm lead balls would take any game :)
Hey John !! As always great video! Please tell me what is the weight of 12mm lead ? In my country just some steal like from 7 mm till 9.5 are available.
nice vid john mate,,yep i aggree mate the good old 12mm lead takes some beating,it seems to be the best balance between speed and impact weight, atb,,wayne.
@OLDMANSBALLBAG i just bought one of your pocket poachers...but i got really little ammo i bought from walmart...where do you get your ammo? and what kind would you recommend for bird hunting?
phil bestwick It's full of holes and possibly lead. Also who knows how long it sat out there his hot shed, screwed to a dirty table. Not very appetizing.
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 That's why I'm all about cattys and trying to get accurate. I've run the numbers and I know why 12 ft/lb was made the limit. All about skulls.
@@curbyourshi1056 in 1968 the UK limit without an fac was originally made to 10ft lbs but raised to 12 to give a bit of grace to people near the limit ,,,,,ballistic pendulums was the thing then and not quite as accurate as a chronograph
I now you draw way behind your head when you to these chrono test how much slower when you draw to just your face for example ? Have you have checked the deference?
Those, bands look set up for at least half butterfly any way not going to make much different on game either way theraband will shoot a lead ball at 200 fps even with a 30 inch draw
Thanks for the video I have thousands of 9.5mm steel and 10mm. Loads of leads beans 10mm lead and 12mm. Just shows if you arent that great and want to hunt use lead
You are right, i was probably drunk... I do not remember exactly the weight of a 12mm lead ball, it should be around 150 grains... 150 grains x 242 ft/sec = 26,425J x 247 ft/sec = 27,038J But... I still don't know the exact weight, so... Thank you for the correction
@@grappolidipalma 12mm lead is 133 grains or 4 grams so roughly 18ft/lbs of energy , nice , I have my airguns at around 18-22 ft/lbs plenty of energy for small game .
@@thelonerizla1 22 ft/lbs is not bad at all. I do have a "springer" 15 ft/lbs cal .22 (precise, reliable, good enough for my needs but surely "nothing exciting").
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I'd forgotten how much I loved this video and how very useful it was to real hunters, excellent, John, posted to several mates who have been wondering about the effectiveness of slingshots as a hunting tool. Real lesson from a real hunter, nice one lad. Baz
I remember watching this the first time around and being so impressed 🤣
You got me into the sport mate many thanks👍
8mm seems to keep all the impact energy in the target. Don't always want the projectile going in and straight out, especially with a body shot.
I've made 2 catapults since watchin your vids they are lethal watched your aiming vid aswell great new hobby cheers good hunting
Mate!!!! Proberbly the best series of instructional vids about Cat's on TH-cam but honestly bud you really do need another couple of cameras!!!!
I was surprised it went right through,I'm getting one of these now.
Just bought some 12.7mm steel ball and your gamekeeper hunting bands for my first slingshot that I made by hand; exited to have them ship in and get into slingshot hunting!
Fantastic demo. Thanks John
Thanks for the nice video. I wonder, could a blue jean or T-shirt protects the chicken from ammo of your slingshot?
@we66y357 yeah i prefere the larger ammo aswell, it takes some serious power to go through all that meat, also theres the ribcage that it had to go through, i think a gamekeeper catapult and 12mm lead balls would take any game :)
GAMEKEEPER JOHN No shit like a FUCKING bullet boy.
What distance were you shooting it at?? Also what band setup please?..12 mm lead ..perfect!!👍😊
He's old gamekeeper bands were 30mm to 20mm tbg if I remember correctly, could be 30mm to 25mm though.
Hey John !! As always great video! Please tell me what is the weight of 12mm lead ? In my country just some steal like from 7 mm till 9.5 are available.
9.5mm steel will kill or incapacitate pigeons etc
Wow just shows you how powerful they are.....
the first 8 ml hit the leg bone
nice vid john mate,,yep i aggree mate the good old 12mm lead takes some beating,it seems to be the best balance between speed and impact weight,
atb,,wayne.
Love this video very educational
Did you cook it after?
@OLDMANSBALLBAG i just bought one of your pocket poachers...but i got really little ammo i bought from walmart...where do you get your ammo? and what kind would you recommend for bird hunting?
Very impressive!
Where do you purcahse your ammo? Awesome video by the way!
i wouldone day love to be able to own a gamekeeper catapult how do i get one
Very good. Thank you very much
did you eat the chicken afterwards? if not why? ;-}
Bird flu
phil bestwick It's full of holes and possibly lead. Also who knows how long it sat out there his hot shed, screwed to a dirty table. Not very appetizing.
@RH697 thank you, some cool slingshots on them sites...idk what im'a do bout ammo yet seems kinda pricey...probably stick with free ammo...rocks :D
Hi john, what kind of tapering do you use on your hunting bands?
Also, the lead's getting just over 17 ft/lb. A lot more powerful than a legal UK air rifle.
You know
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 That's why I'm all about cattys and trying to get accurate. I've run the numbers and I know why 12 ft/lb was made the limit. All about skulls.
@@curbyourshi1056 yea mate my natural fitted with 30x20 x.7 snipersling latex leaves a 12ft Hw35 for dead 💥
@@curbyourshi1056 in 1968 the UK limit without an fac was originally made to 10ft lbs but raised to 12 to give a bit of grace to people near the limit ,,,,,ballistic pendulums was the thing then and not quite as accurate as a chronograph
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 Exactly what I'm after mate. Just want to be accurate before the hunting begins. 👍
How mm band? 170mm how FPS? TBG 22.11mm
i would love to see this test on a pig
Nice vid, where do you get your leather from for your pouches?
My granny’s shoe
That bird is definately stone dead , LOL , .........nice ammo comparison , ...thanks for sharing ! Cheers , diemai
I now you draw way behind your head when you to these chrono test how much slower when you draw to just your face for example ? Have you have checked the deference?
John always draws from his cheek. He says its his preferred method. Idk if he would've done butterfly for this video but I doubt it
Those, bands look set up for at least half butterfly any way not going to make much different on game either way theraband will shoot a lead ball at 200 fps even with a 30 inch draw
@OLDMANSBALLBAG ok, where do you buy them at?
excellent, power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lethal weapon👍✌
that was good! Thank You!
can i purchase ammo mate?
@EpikSkape You can shoot them in any hand, thanks john
@rustlerbadass i would recommend at least 12mm to be honest, john
8mm is fine, I’d say 12mm is the most you’d want if anything
Well, that's a novel way to tenderize your meat.
Tell me where to buy those Ruber bands please
Amazon or ebay, but the best bands are the double color gzk, faster, more durable and stretch factor of 8 (max)
Have I got this right. 163 mph. No wonder it went in one side and out the other.
NICE!!!!!!!
Disclaimer: No animals were harmed during the making of this video. ;)
Where any chickens harmed in the making of ur video clip ?
does the UK allow air guns?
yes
Under 12ftlb no licence over requires a firearms cert and a valid reason to want it. Ie going hunting on a farm or club and or both
for hunting small game like doves and rabbits which ammo would do a humanely kill ??
Mohamad Taha 6mm plastic BB can't go wrong
St George plastic won't do it at all ,I would use 9.5mm ball bearings and 25-20mm single thereband gold
@@stgeorge6947 and from a bloke who slayed a dragon
hi mate - all orders are to be made by email, my email address is :
ordersforgamekeepercatapults@hotmail.co.uk
cheers
hello, great catapults , Can i buy from you ? what ones do you have for sale .
I thought pigeons had very protective feathers
I know its a chicken of course but for game
Under Bridge That's not as powerful as you think. And feathers do make a big difference, especially when you're at a distance longer than 5 feet.
A bit late but i have had complete pass thru pigeons at 20m with 9.5 steel
@@Leocernask8 what bands
28-15 .80 stardi, 17cm active
@malthazar1111 thanks
how do i find your ebay account?
Hey, i was wondering if there was any way i could buy one of your slingshots, like ebay, mail etc. ?
would 11mm lead with yer flat bands be good for rabbit and wood pidgeon john?
yep m8
Thanks for the video I have thousands of 9.5mm steel and 10mm. Loads of leads beans 10mm lead and 12mm. Just shows if you arent that great and want to hunt use lead
Did you use your'e slingshots to defend your'e self against looter?
I thought it was not going through! :|
sure, please emai l ordersforgamekeepercatapults@gmail.com thanks
Luvly jubly
Around 18 Joule with the lead, and the 14 steel balls (less with the other ammo)...
grappolidipalma is gone, there's only me now Incorrect, sir.
You are right, i was probably drunk...
I do not remember exactly the weight of a 12mm lead ball, it should be around 150 grains...
150 grains x 242 ft/sec = 26,425J
x 247 ft/sec = 27,038J
But... I still don't know the exact weight, so...
Thank you for the correction
@@grappolidipalma 12mm lead is 133 grains or 4 grams so roughly 18ft/lbs of energy , nice , I have my airguns at around 18-22 ft/lbs plenty of energy for small game .
@@thelonerizla1 22 ft/lbs is not bad at all.
I do have a "springer" 15 ft/lbs cal .22 (precise, reliable, good enough for my needs but surely "nothing exciting").
@@thelonerizla1 A 12mm lead ball weights 10.26 grams or 158.34 grains! At 242fps that is 20.5fpe or 30 joules.