This video is very very useful especially for me, a beginner. I have been looking for the vedio like this for almost a month but found none. Now I am crystal clear. Thanks again! From Thailand!
just getting back into shooting catapults after not picking one up for about 35 years .... learned so much from watching your videos ... Quality mate, thanks !
Thanks Gamekeeper. I used a slingshot 50 years ago when I was a kid. I had forgotten how long the rubbers needed to be. Your post did the trick. Thanks from and oldie.
I ordered my first slingshot recently, been trying to understand everything and it’s so confusing, band thickness, also having the right size ammo for each size band. This really helped!! Thanks mate
If you're not hunting or pest control, you normally wouldn't reach 0.8mm band thickness unless you're prioritizing band lifespan cause that's the advantage as it gets thicker. Matching band thickness and ammo-weight cause if the ammo is too heavy, most of the contraction speed is eaten up by gravity of that ammo, if the ammo is too light, well it just doesn't go as fast, I forgot the reason, try those regular plastic BB gun bullets, I think 4~5mm, they still fly fast but not as fast, that's what I mean. You can try shooting sardine cans if you don't have a speedometer/chronometer
Mate, you're a star! Being new to this (after a hiatus of 40 odd years!) I got myself an OTT slingshot and just clamped in the elastic. My draw length is the same as your, and I discovered the bands were way too long! Now adjusted it is way more powerful........cheers!
So glad i found this ! Just got into the whole catapult game and thought i was not getting enough power ( shots dropping off ) worked it out using this method and chopped a good few cm off the bands . Made a huge difference thankyou so much
I am such a newbie so thanks for repeating it so many times :-) I like your way of shooting because as a bow shooter the anchor points are the same. Thanks BB
When we were kids we would use our body parts to determine our size and fit to a whole plethora of of different things. From pant size where u would use ur elbow to ur rist all the way to building ur own personal sling shot where u would use ur finger tips to ur wrist, and most of the time it will be the best fit to ur needs. Now building it also plays a big part u will notice that u have 2 to 4 cm of extra play that is the extra that u use to tie-up ur rubber to ur forks. 99 percent of the time it will be a perfect fit unless ur using real heavy rubber bands. As kids we used bicycle tire rubber and then moved up to the rubber of a motorized bike it was called a Thomas that's was the best rubber as a kid we could find and let me tell u the sling shots that were made with it as kids we were all envious over. They were incredibly accurate, durable, and low maintenance. Probably because the rubber from the factory was made to last with no maintenance.
not all bands can stretch to 6x. get a scrap band, mark two points and they're 1cm far apart, and stretch it to like 99% of it's limit, in my case it was 5cm stretched, so divide your draw length to like 4.9cm
perfect timeing ive just started making a few catys after a 20 year break and i was wondering how to get this right with modern latex thanks for the knowledge ;-)
Im just going to say,without any extra archery references.Once you find your anchor point.Lets just say -against your cheek,right below your dominant eye. Every time you draw to fire.Return to that exact spot every draw.Keep focusing on the exact anchor point until it becomes automatic. Your accuracy will improve and becomes consistent @ a specific distance.
Hey chab... If you have an active band length 14,5cm that means you have to put extra cm to it.. Coz that is the extra peace that goes into the fork when you're fixing the band.. Otherweis you loosing from 14,5cm minus 1cm.. Cheers
Thanks for that, could you demonstrate the effect of full power with the correct measurement using the crony against incorrect bands please. Great video...
Many thanks for the info just started in shooting slingshots and learning all the time any advise on band and ammo size keeping draw length correct for long practice sessions without excessive fatigue and subsequent loss of form etc for newbies lol..... cheers 👍👍👍
thanks for explaining this for us. I have been trying to set up a new catapult and this has given me the last bit of info I needed. ol greybeard dino ; - ) >>
Hi john thanks for another great vide you've really helped with my catapult shhoting since watching your channel recently brought one of your ppsg's and cant speak highly enough about it great frame best ive ever ise my accuracy has greatly improved with it and your tips on shooting and aiming also i lost your email my bands arrived about two weeks ago now and would you be able to do double 20-25mm bands made up and put them on the website for sale thanks Chris (on parents account)
great video John, measured up and shortened my bands today but had a load of fork hits, would you lengthen them or is it just something to get used to? Cheers
Just got back into shooting catapults again, first time since I was 14 and having a lotta fun shooting targets. Im a bit obsessed tbh ha. I currently have a Barnet Black Widow, but am looking to get something a bit more advanced. Any ideas?? PS, I live in the UK. Thanks
I'm finding 8.9 times out of ten my 'lastic gives up the ghost in front of the pouch holes. It's a bit 'cheap' but I'm reusing the cut downs for my 'standard' anchor lengths. Not with me? Get a PFS....justification for buying one.....sneaky, right....i...! Better now? Still no? You set up for the half or full butterfly for your PFS, then you still have length in hand for your 'usual anchor' length cuts. If you get busted for buying a PFS tell her it's Economical Utilisation....or... drink beer until she cheers up? Or....get another one.
i've been wondering this for about a week now, and have lost alot of draw length, obviously loosing power. Does the width of the bands affect this divide 5.5 thing? Thanks
It probably depends on how strong you are. My estimate after looking at his bands is 3 cm wide. If it's too hard to draw the slingshot, you can always reduce by a few millimeters, I imagine. Hope this helps.
they should be matched to the weight of the ammo you shoot, the heavier the ammo the thicker the bands. if they are too thin you sacrifice power but if they are too thick there will be too much energy left in the bands at the end of the shot causing faster band wear and hand slaps
Just did this even left it what shouldve been a hair long yet it slaps the fuck out of my hand now...where as before i never got touched by the bands...and i mean BRUTAL slap...its unshootable now even with gloves on.
@@GrandmasterHobbyist Did anything improve? How can I explain this, try firing at your 8 o'clock, 9 oclock is your left arm, 12 oclock is your front, 3 oclock is your right arm, I kinda aim at 44 min mark. how I hold my slingshot is at 11 oclock, how most youtube guides hold it, it's at 6 oclock or what they call gangster pose.
@@MangaGamified thanks for the input I'll test it out later. Trying to get accurate worh longpull shooting I think I change slingshots too often so I can't get used to anything 😭 always want to shoot them allm
@@GrandmasterHobbyist You will be surprised how accurate you can get using the same equipment over and over, check out Taseer Hunting Official and Hunting Masters Official, they're like the high noon quickdraw of slingshots.
titan munro I normally add 10mm for the attachment point at the forks and measure and mark 25mm to put through the pouch (you can use less but I find this makes it easier)
This video is very very useful especially for me, a beginner. I have been looking for the vedio like this for almost a month but found none. Now I am crystal clear. Thanks again!
From Thailand!
Watched video. Measured my draw length. Divided by 5.5. Cut and installed bands. 100 % improvement. Good straight forward video. 2 thumbs up.
just getting back into shooting catapults after not picking one up for about 35 years .... learned so much from watching your videos ... Quality mate, thanks !
Thanks Gamekeeper. I used a slingshot 50 years ago when I was a kid. I had forgotten how long the rubbers needed to be. Your post did the trick. Thanks from and oldie.
I ordered my first slingshot recently, been trying to understand everything and it’s so confusing, band thickness, also having the right size ammo for each size band. This really helped!! Thanks mate
If you're not hunting or pest control, you normally wouldn't reach 0.8mm band thickness unless you're prioritizing band lifespan cause that's the advantage as it gets thicker. Matching band thickness and ammo-weight cause if the ammo is too heavy, most of the contraction speed is eaten up by gravity of that ammo, if the ammo is too light, well it just doesn't go as fast, I forgot the reason, try those regular plastic BB gun bullets, I think 4~5mm, they still fly fast but not as fast, that's what I mean.
You can try shooting sardine cans if you don't have a speedometer/chronometer
just started off as the best blogger lve seen for beginners simple and to the point excellent
I just done it to my ppmg and the power has increased loads full draw very very happy with this can't see myself changing it ....good man John. ...
Mate, you're a star! Being new to this (after a hiatus of 40 odd years!) I got myself an OTT slingshot and just clamped in the elastic. My draw length is the same as your, and I discovered the bands were way too long! Now adjusted it is way more powerful........cheers!
So glad i found this ! Just got into the whole catapult game and thought i was not getting enough power ( shots dropping off ) worked it out using this method and chopped a good few cm off the bands . Made a huge difference thankyou so much
Good informative stream pal.. this is the go to channel
Very good info and enjoyable to watch. Thanks for sharing 🤘🏼
I am such a newbie so thanks for repeating it so many times :-)
I like your way of shooting because as a bow shooter the anchor points are the same.
Thanks
BB
You have a great channel. Tons of details and info. Thank you for taking the time to teach us!
Thanks for all the great videos.
Quick question - does the length include the parts of the elastic tied to the fork?
Iam waiting for your support of karnataka word for the first time as a child is the best for the next two weeks ago but it's also a great 👍
Your a great man John, you really are my friend.
Brilliant video thanks mate your videos are the best and it's what got me into catapults so thanks for all your help
Thanks
I tried same as you.
And
It's working.
👑💍👑💍
Thank you
😊🙌💕✨
Thanks John - just re-banded my PPMG - fantastic!
In inches use 4-5x and add half inch for tie off. 20in draw length divide by 5 =4, then add half an inch. Band length would be 4.5 inches.
Great video John! I need some resistance at the draw length to keep from wavering when sighting. If there is no resistance you can't stay stable.
When we were kids we would use our body parts to determine our size and fit to a whole plethora of of different things. From pant size where u would use ur elbow to ur rist all the way to building ur own personal sling shot where u would use ur finger tips to ur wrist, and most of the time it will be the best fit to ur needs.
Now building it also plays a big part u will notice that u have 2 to 4 cm of extra play that is the extra that u use to tie-up ur rubber to ur forks. 99 percent of the time it will be a perfect fit unless ur using real heavy rubber bands. As kids we used bicycle tire rubber and then moved up to the rubber of a motorized bike it was called a Thomas that's was the best rubber as a kid we could find and let me tell u the sling shots that were made with it as kids we were all envious over.
They were incredibly accurate, durable, and low maintenance. Probably because the rubber from the factory was made to last with no maintenance.
not all bands can stretch to 6x. get a scrap band, mark two points and they're 1cm far apart, and stretch it to like 99% of it's limit, in my case it was 5cm stretched, so divide your draw length to like 4.9cm
perfect timeing ive just started making a few catys after a 20 year break and i was wondering how to get this right with modern latex thanks for the knowledge ;-)
Bub....you saved me.
Ive been shooting with simple shot scout and my bands were 4 inches too long.
Shooting much nicer.
Im just going to say,without any extra archery references.Once you find your anchor point.Lets just say -against your cheek,right below your dominant eye.
Every time you draw to fire.Return to that exact spot every draw.Keep focusing on the exact anchor point until it becomes automatic. Your accuracy will improve and becomes consistent @ a specific distance.
Wow!im wondering how on Earth should i set up my own band length properly.thanks for this very informative vids of urs men!
Super thanks , I needed to know this !!! but add 10 cm more for tie them to the fork and pouch ?
Thanks sir john for info....keep safe..😷
Very informative video. I was just wondering how to calculate that. Thanks a lot for all of your great videos and informations.
that helps me a lot.. Thank u sir.. keep the videos come ing..
Just about to set up my first catapult. Thanks for the info
I have Question Why divided by 5.5 or 6 ? :)
Excellent video as always!!
Hey chab... If you have an active band length 14,5cm that means you have to put extra cm to it.. Coz that is the extra peace that goes into the fork when you're fixing the band.. Otherweis you loosing from 14,5cm minus 1cm..
Cheers
Where is best place to source rubber whats the best Good informative video Keep em up
Nice one Jon, could not be explained batter than this. Superb channel mate.
Thanks for that, could you demonstrate the effect of full power with the correct measurement using the crony against incorrect bands please.
Great video...
Many thanks for the info just started in shooting slingshots and learning all the time any advise on band and ammo size keeping draw length correct for long practice sessions without excessive fatigue and subsequent loss of form etc for newbies lol..... cheers 👍👍👍
thanks for explaining this for us. I have been trying to set up a new catapult and this has given me the last bit of info I needed.
ol greybeard dino
; - ) >>
Great video
Is the active band length the size you cut the bands or the size of the bands after they have been attached to the catapult and leather?
I appreciate the instructions. In the band length calculation Should I allow for the length that is lost while binding to the binding posts?
Thanks for the tips sir..
Very nice tips sir, how much distance is good for dove hunting and with what size ammo.just tell me.
John, how much extra length do you add for the tie-on at the tips and also the pouch?
What a great and helpful vid!!
That band you use where can I buy it?
Hi john thanks for another great vide you've really helped with my catapult shhoting since watching your channel recently brought one of your ppsg's and cant speak highly enough about it great frame best ive ever ise my accuracy has greatly improved with it and your tips on shooting and aiming also i lost your email my bands arrived about two weeks ago now and would you be able to do double 20-25mm bands made up and put them on the website for sale thanks Chris (on parents account)
Thanks for the info very much appreciated
great video John, measured up and shortened my bands today but had a load of fork hits, would you lengthen them or is it just something to get used to? Cheers
brilliant
Excellent, as usual.
THWACK!
Does this take into consideration extra length for tying your pouch?
Good video. No bullshit
Awesome
Just got back into shooting catapults again, first time since I was 14 and having a lotta fun shooting targets. Im a bit obsessed tbh ha. I currently have a Barnet Black Widow, but am looking to get something a bit more advanced. Any ideas?? PS, I live in the UK. Thanks
I'm finding 8.9 times out of ten my 'lastic gives up the ghost in front of the pouch holes. It's a bit 'cheap' but I'm reusing the cut downs for my 'standard' anchor lengths.
Not with me?
Get a PFS....justification for buying one.....sneaky, right....i...!
Better now? Still no?
You set up for the half or full butterfly for your PFS, then you still have length in hand for your 'usual anchor' length cuts. If you get busted for buying a PFS tell her it's Economical Utilisation....or... drink beer until she cheers up?
Or....get another one.
Do you need to double band for hunting?
Hi John what what gzk Green length be same beginners
Do you divide the length by 5.5 for double band as well? Thanks
Does active band length change depending on the cut of the bands, e.g. tapered vs straight?
Where cani buy one of your catapult
Thank you for the info.
i've been wondering this for about a week now, and have lost alot of draw length, obviously loosing power. Does the width of the bands affect this divide 5.5 thing? Thanks
Thank you so much!
How much extra do you add for attaching to forks/pouch?
1/2 inch
How long have you had catapults
What about the paper of the bands?
Cheers John, great info.
HUA!!! That's what I need to know.
Looking through all the comments, may I ask why you don't bother to reply?
GAMEKEEPER JOHN How do you measure/decide band width?
It probably depends on how strong you are. My estimate after looking at his bands is 3 cm wide. If it's too hard to draw the slingshot, you can always reduce by a few millimeters, I imagine. Hope this helps.
they should be matched to the weight of the ammo you shoot, the heavier the ammo the thicker the bands. if they are too thin you sacrifice power but if they are too thick there will be too much energy left in the bands at the end of the shot causing faster band wear and hand slaps
Why are your slingshots so expensive
meu sonho um estilingue deste ppmg
Brilliant thanks mate.
Very useful mate thankyou
Hello John, is the principle the same if you wish to use double Theraband Gold? Thanks in advance. Ray
ray fraser did you get an answer? I have asked same question
I want to collect some slingshot, so how?
Bill hays measures the active band length on his manhood, in other words 2.4 inches
i think the first way you did it as allot of bands an tubes have more or less stretch than others so your best check um like you first did
2 YEARS STILL NOT GOT LIL DEVIL CATAPULT, WHY JOHN WEBB YOU NOT PERFORM?
Very interesting
Just did this even left it what shouldve been a hair long yet it slaps the fuck out of my hand now...where as before i never got touched by the bands...and i mean BRUTAL slap...its unshootable now even with gloves on.
Keep in mind im shootint OTT...legit had to switch this band set for TTF to not murder my hand
@@GrandmasterHobbyist Did anything improve? How can I explain this, try firing at your 8 o'clock, 9 oclock is your left arm, 12 oclock is your front, 3 oclock is your right arm, I kinda aim at 44 min mark.
how I hold my slingshot is at 11 oclock, how most youtube guides hold it, it's at 6 oclock or what they call gangster pose.
@@MangaGamified thanks for the input I'll test it out later. Trying to get accurate worh longpull shooting I think I change slingshots too often so I can't get used to anything 😭 always want to shoot them allm
@@GrandmasterHobbyist You will be surprised how accurate you can get using the same equipment over and over, check out Taseer Hunting Official and Hunting Masters Official, they're like the high noon quickdraw of slingshots.
@@MangaGamified I really want to get this heaven emperor slingshot OTT are you familiar with it? Grip looks amazing.
Nice one!
would ye add another half inch for the bit thats tied onto the fork for yer over all band lengh sorry ifs thats a stupid question
titan munro I normally add 10mm for the attachment point at the forks and measure and mark 25mm to put through the pouch (you can use less but I find this makes it easier)
Thx. Nice video.😁
very useful thanks
can i use surgical for bands...
How do you fasten the bands onto the slingshot?
Pritt stick and nails, make sure to cure it in the oven.
have you moved from your trusty ppsg to the ppmg john ?
Owen Skillington si think he moved awhile ago he said in his comparison video
Id spoted just after i posted this comment cheers jack
very intresting video i make many slinghshot but they aren't perfects
80" to 14 odd cm? Did you mean inch to inch or does it convert down to cm?
What size BBS do you use
Depends on the band.
0:08 where I can buy this one
Xuan Huy Nguyen search ppmg
4:10-4:20
love your engineering basically but disapprove of your bunny slaying all at the same time m8 is all....
first!
Accent is too much.