Don’t forget Renault wanted Fernando and made it very clear publicly. Piastri was told that he wouldn’t race the following year. So Weber started looking at other options and McLaren showed interest. Then Fernando said no to Renault because their performance continued to get worse so he saw the writing on the wall. Weber and Piastri also saw the same thing so when Fernando said no thank you, and Renault released the press release saying Oscar would be driving for them without even telling him. Oscar and Mark got serious and started talking to McLaren since the contract was never signed with Renault. Renault screwed themselves and Mark did what was best for his client. As it should be. Drivers get spit out at any point by teams so why should they be loyal when they will be the first to get screwed if the team feels they want to go in another direction.
I believe Piastri already had a race contract with McLaren prior to Alonso announcing his departure. For November to March, Renault didn’t get Iscars signature. When it was apparent that the team was chasing an Alonso renewal, Piastri /Webber saw there was no race seat available, and he would have ended up at a lower tier team. Webber knows that you have to seize every opportunity when it’s present. Their decision has been proven right.
Webber was best mates with Alonso throughout his racing career, as they were both managed by Flavio Briatore. He'd have known Alonso's thoughts on Renault long before anybody else.
@@vvayoutvvest don't forget Webbers relationship with Ricciardo, Ricciardo was in the hurt locker and would have wanted an exit from Mclaren. Webber would have had a relationship with Zak Brown from his tv roles, solve a problem for Ricciardo and Zak, and steal a good rookie from a hopelessly managed French team, winning all round
There is a lot missing here. It was open knowledge that Oscar wasn’t priority for the 2023 Alpine seat and the Williams seat wasn’t guaranteed either. Mark had to guarantee his client a seat as he didn’t want oscar stuck like Drugovich or Pourchair. Totally ignoring the fact he won his Alpine contract by winning that F4 championship, and then consecutively won F3 and F2, with that talent the academy was failing him not guaranteeing him a seat in F1. Also Otmar trashing him personally publicly like that when clearly it’s his management doing the moves, is just trash. He was a 20 year old kid winning everything and not allowed to race in F1 when he did all asked from him. The interview ignores Otmar still talking smack about Oscar post Alpine firing on beyond the grid. It’s been over a year, he can say he was wrong now, and maybe apologise.
@@kenchen704 well the fact that they keep harping on about all this money invested into him ignores how he got the backing in the first place. He won the championship where they contractually had to support him. They didn’t go out of their way to give some kid potential in a Melbourne go kart track
Also, if you are upset that while he didn’t sign the contract, you still gave him all the testing time - that’s not on him, alpine knew he hadn’t signed that and gave it anyway. Thats a failure of management and structure, not Piastri.
Corporate stricture sucks, he probably couldnt make the contract himself with oscar, but the HR department, he probably could have made more effort but still. If you cant give him control and make it clear to him that he doesnt have control, he wont take as much actions. As he said he had nothing to do with the post, but knew what he lost in oscar so was probably really pissed.
They let Piastri think they were retaining Alonso & he'd be stuck in the simulator or on loan at the back of the grid at Wiliams & let Alonso think he was just keeping the seat warm for Piastri. Alpine-Renault deserved to lose both of them simultaneously.
Lost all interest in Otmars views when he started slagging Piastri for his own teams stupidity. The kid hadn't turned an F1 wheel in anger and Otmar decided the professional way to handle the situation was to vilify Oscar rather than reflect on his own operation. The contracts recognition board found in Piastris favour and Otmar continued his tirade.
@@Jackbyrne77its essentially Otmar making up excuses suggesting it was incompetence or negligence by Alpine management. People that supposedly didn't report to him
@@zacharywhite211the people he should’ve and was paid to be in charge of. Sounds like he was bad at his job and he’s too stupid to even realize he’s self snitching.
I respect Otmar because others have said that at Force India he did a good job, but he's very wrong here regarding the Alpine contract situation. 1) Alonso wanted a 2 year contract, Alpine (someone there) wanted him for 1 year and then to replace him with Piastri. 2) Alpine wanted Piastri to be either a reserve and simulator driver for 1 year or to go to another team like Williams for 1 year and then take Alonso's place. Neither Alonso nor Piastri were happy with what was offered and because Alpine/Renault thought they could negotiate forever without signing any contract with either of them, they lost them both. Alonso got tired of getting the runaround and being treated as only a seat warmer for Piastri so left for Aston. Piastri and his manager Weber saw that no one was giving them a contract (and it has been reported that Weber tried repeatedly to contact Alpine) at all and looked around at what was available and went to McLaren. Renault/Alpine thought that they could negotiate forever and disrespect both drivers because they somehow believed that Piastri and Alonso would be begging for a seat with the team, as if they were that successful and desirable of a team. They got exactly what they deserved from both Alonso and Piastri.
Wait so you expect a driver that’s won everything he’s gone into, is the future of the sport, and has done everything he is supposed to do from a junior driver is supposed to spend 2 years on the sidelines because you can’t figure out your driver line up 😂. Get a grip Otmar
Dude, watch the full interview. Otmar isn’t crying about this - he’s saying that he had nothing to do with it because Alpine screwed up, and then he got thrown under the bus.
@@danielakerman8241he’s whinging about spending all these resources and money on Oscar, yet Oscar was always the 2nd choice. Point being you can’t have a driver like Oscar sit 2 years out, because you can’t make your mind up over a driver line up
Otmar didn't check the contracts/make sure they were signed. He lost two talented drivers by messing them around and not listening to them, instead he was playing the clown versus Zack and Maclaren. Alonso was after an extended 2 year or more contract, they only offered him a 1 year deal and Piastri was just after a guaranteed F1 seat.
Alpine paid only a small part of piastris funding the greater part was paid by his fathers company and other company's and while all the other teams were giving their young hopefulls a drive in practice sessions piastri was sitting around doing nothing
Alpine/Renault aren't without blame, but this "it's everyone else, not me!!" mentality shows why this guy won't get touched by an F1 team despite all his experience. And even if he truly had nothing to do with the Oscar thing, he certainly had everything to do with burning the bridge with Fernando, which then forced the team to roll the dice with an all French lineup that hates one another. Edit: and then the audacity to say that he was on track to take them to being a top 3 team!!! 😂😂😂 This guys got hot air for brains.
He literally explained that HR and communications never told him that the contract wasn’t signed. Bro’s kind enough to pay for an entire team’s salary and work hard to create a good team environment, and you are out here hating 😂😂😂😂
I agree. I tried listening to the entire podcast but honestly found it hard to listen to him for the full hour. His story of the Piastri signing sounds a bit different from what Oscar said on social media at the time where he very much indicated that Otmar played a role in it. Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that Renault/Alpine is a toxic environment and nearly everyone that comes away from that team say the same thing. But Otmar seems to take very little responsibility for anything. Especially given that he was a team principal I find it very hard to believe that he was squeaky clean throughout his entire stint with the team, and it was just "someone out to get him".
@@HendrickT-bi4iwOtmar talks about people caring more about their power-base than the business. My experience in corporates is just exactly that. Self interest is so often paramount. For evidence just look at the culture of the modern CEO, compensation packages continue to increase disproportionately to their staff, with the claim that a business’s success is dependent on the CEO, so you have to pay the big bucks. When they screw the pooch they get a golden handshake and they move on to the personal enrichment opportunity. Entrenched corruption and rampant in corporate culture.
As a person in high danger high stress work, Otmar is right,ppl in power backstab and do what they can to get their way or more power. I HATE it i just want to be best professional i can, and build the coolest most innovative stuff i dont care about these dumb games
This is the most softball interview that could have happened. Otmar’s account here is nonsense and he knows it. He’s missing so much detail and ignoring the reality of what happened at the time. They never challenged Otmar on the things he said about Oscar at the time and they never challenged him about the (respectfully limited) things Oscar’s team released to the media. Otmar is being very dishonest here.
The blatant hypocrisy of this man, talking about everyone was out to get me. Blaming everyone else for Oscar’s Alpine contract fiasco. If you didn’t know and had nothing to do with it Otmar, you probably shouldn’t have been taking shots at Oscars integrity and loyalty. I have absolutely zero sympathy for how you were treated at Alpine, given the way you yourself treated Oscar. Take some accountability, for your tirade on Oscar if not for anything else. This video is akin to a bully finally getting karmic justice and playing the victim. Pathetic
No, see you missed the point. What he's saying here is that there was a contract that existed which had never been acted on prior to him getting there. Once there, he was never told about the contract not being acted on. Sounds like he was operating on the belief it had been and was valid. Also, you can possibly know whether he worked it out with Oscar just cause you didn't get to see it happen, tons of things happen privately.
@@joshuapowers4623 irrelevant, instead of unloading a tirade on Oscar perhaps he should have checked the validity of the contract situation. He was a senior member of Alpine and is just as responsible for the mismanagement. His incompetence has been made very clear in the light of the teams he leaves improving almost immediately
I’ll I heard was “I was there for 4 months and didn’t realize WE (as a team) forgot to sign Piastri”. As the team principal that’s his job to know. Glad they put his incompetent face in the press release.
@@kiwi6665 well yes I agree they have had several championships, as an engine supplier and manufacturer, but the current set up they have should not be in F1. They clearly do not have the passion for it or real backing. It’s all political for the brand, not the racing. The race team seem to have very little say in what happens. That’s not how race teams are run. It’s greed on the brands side and management wanting all control. Not an atmospheres worthy of F1
The days where the team principal runs overall racing operation are long gone, especially when you are manufacturer team like Renault sticking their oar in at every turn. The only way it might work is if you have the likes of Toto at Mercedes, who is also a substantial shareholder in the team, so he has the political powerbase to back up his demand for as much atomany as possible on the track. It was different in the days of Flavio, where the team owner was often the team principal, but even when they weren't, the likes of Renault knew the value of having a person like Flavio as the core of their F1 operations and success duly followed. It's ironic some 15 years later Renault have returned to Flavio for advice in this latest crisis they face.
True. But Otmar is playing this a bit too cool. He was definitely involved in much of the failure. His handling of the renewal with Fernando was 100% on him. It was similar failures to what happened with Oscar
And Otmar thought that it was wise to team Ocon and Gasly together knowing full well that they don’t get along on or off the track. I wonder how much they cost Alpine in car repairs.
Get over yourself Otmar. You got fired at Aston and you were found out at Alpine. And no team sees value in your services despite your experience. You're just not good enough
It’s a business, and you’re a terrible business man. You prioritized a bunch of bums over a young star like Oscar. When you hit the wall and tried to slide him in at the last moment he gave you the finger. I’m not even a McLaren fan either but this guy is a moron. Oscar leaving is entirely on Alpine and their lack of attention. Alpine was already at the bottom of the Grid and this guy still managed to make them worse, it’s truly an accomplishment to be that incompetent.
Otmar is straight up incompetent. Why give him hours in the car if the car if the contract wasn’t signed? If he deserved Piastri he would have signed him instead of being strung along by Alonso.
Otmar is Professional Victim, constantly complaining and saying it's not fair. Wherever he goes the team are appealing this or protesting that, yet they never win. Common denominator?
@@SticksTheJon I understand why Oscar joined McLaren, but the title of the video is "Otmar on why Oscar rejected Alpine for McLaren". Otmar didn't give an explanation as to why he didn't join Alpine, he just told the facts about Alpine/Renault beeing incompetent. A more fitting title would have been "Otmar on what happened with Oscar Piastri"
They didn't sign the contract. Former F1 driver Mark Webber is Piastri's manager, and he had his share of team politics in his career culminating with the Multi-21 incident where Sebastian Vettel ignore the previous agreed on strategy that should either one of them gain advantage in the race, the other should support the team, not themselves. Vettel went and won that race despite the agreement. He's not going to let his charge suffered the same fate. When Renault/Alpine were messing around with the contract and the old one expired, Webber waste no time to seek a different deal.
Everyone already knows how much of a mess Renault/Alpine are. Not sure what Otmar is trying to achieve with this interview. Not a good look on his part to talk trash about a former employer given the position he was in…
That Renault PU really held Red Bull back they had some great cars with a terrible Power Unit..I mean they still managed to win a few races each year despite the PU..
this sort of revisionist history will always backfire... look at where Alpine Renault is now... and look at what Brown has done with McLaren... they won the 2024 WCC and Piastri has won 2 races and podium multiple times... would he have got there with Otmar?? Piastri made the right choice. And check out Ocon and Viry Chatillon....Alpine is NOT a team that will win the wcc any time soon.
😂😂😂 he took a gamble a known high profile driver would sign with him and when it didn't happen he did a 180 and tri😮ed to turn to his fallback option, a guy who he left without a drive for the previous year. meanwhile piastri knowing he was going to be forgotten if he didn't get a drive for the year ahead decided to take a guaranteed seat. 😂😂 then when the forgotten, unused piastri isnt available to be the get out of jail free card he is the worst in the world. otto is conveniently rewriting history with himself free of blame and the very man at the center of legal action against piastri knowingly admits the contract wasn't signed and there was no breach of contract to begin with, so why take him to court? or is otto now also claiming he had nothing to do with that. Also in news today otto told the truth, a shocking and unbelievable development that no one saw coming. Otto tells reporter how he found the compound osama was hiding in and tells of how he taught jesus how to walk on water. he was right about one thing: Alpine are a devious, lying pack of Sh1t!.
Zak Brown is a dirt bag, screwed Norris 2 races before summer break. Zak and his team are quitters. On their drivers. Manufacturers championship is the only thing they cared about. Team orange management is drunk on power.
Team orange 😂 yea you mean the same team orange that’s about to lead McLaren to their first Manufacturers championship in 26 years and I mean yea sure it’s not like Lando Norris has made mistake after mistake this season o wait a minute he has. 🤭
Drivers are absolutely not incentivized to put the team first. If your aspirations are to be a nr1 driver and not a perez or bottas, you are better off throwing your team under the bus
Lolololol I found a Frenchman and/or an Alpine fan. You're not smart. Tell that to Ferrari. Schumacher was NOT a team player. Tell that to Red Bull, Verstappen is not a team player. Hell, Lewis isn't a great team player. The selfish win the most, it's how it is.
Did oscar ever disobey a team order? Did he ever even try to disobey a team order? I remember Lando tried to disobey on order until the last 3 or so laps of Hungary.
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Don’t forget Renault wanted Fernando and made it very clear publicly. Piastri was told that he wouldn’t race the following year. So Weber started looking at other options and McLaren showed interest. Then Fernando said no to Renault because their performance continued to get worse so he saw the writing on the wall. Weber and Piastri also saw the same thing so when Fernando said no thank you, and Renault released the press release saying Oscar would be driving for them without even telling him. Oscar and Mark got serious and started talking to McLaren since the contract was never signed with Renault. Renault screwed themselves and Mark did what was best for his client. As it should be. Drivers get spit out at any point by teams so why should they be loyal when they will be the first to get screwed if the team feels they want to go in another direction.
I believe Piastri already had a race contract with McLaren prior to Alonso announcing his departure. For November to March, Renault didn’t get Iscars signature. When it was apparent that the team was chasing an Alonso renewal, Piastri /Webber saw there was no race seat available, and he would have ended up at a lower tier team.
Webber knows that you have to seize every opportunity when it’s present.
Their decision has been proven right.
Webber was best mates with Alonso throughout his racing career, as they were both managed by Flavio Briatore. He'd have known Alonso's thoughts on Renault long before anybody else.
@@vvayoutvvest don't forget Webbers relationship with Ricciardo, Ricciardo was in the hurt locker and would have wanted an exit from Mclaren. Webber would have had a relationship with Zak Brown from his tv roles, solve a problem for Ricciardo and Zak, and steal a good rookie from a hopelessly managed French team, winning all round
@@dunniss uhm… Ricciardo did not want to leave McLaren.
Fernando left because Alpine was offering only 1 year of contract.
There is a lot missing here. It was open knowledge that Oscar wasn’t priority for the 2023 Alpine seat and the Williams seat wasn’t guaranteed either. Mark had to guarantee his client a seat as he didn’t want oscar stuck like Drugovich or Pourchair.
Totally ignoring the fact he won his Alpine contract by winning that F4 championship, and then consecutively won F3 and F2, with that talent the academy was failing him not guaranteeing him a seat in F1.
Also Otmar trashing him personally publicly like that when clearly it’s his management doing the moves, is just trash. He was a 20 year old kid winning everything and not allowed to race in F1 when he did all asked from him. The interview ignores Otmar still talking smack about Oscar post Alpine firing on beyond the grid. It’s been over a year, he can say he was wrong now, and maybe apologise.
But it was supposed to be signed in November already 😂😂😂 you can’t take piece meal info and just twist it like that
@@kenchen704 well the fact that they keep harping on about all this money invested into him ignores how he got the backing in the first place. He won the championship where they contractually had to support him. They didn’t go out of their way to give some kid potential in a Melbourne go kart track
Also, if you are upset that while he didn’t sign the contract, you still gave him all the testing time - that’s not on him, alpine knew he hadn’t signed that and gave it anyway. Thats a failure of management and structure, not Piastri.
Corporate stricture sucks, he probably couldnt make the contract himself with oscar, but the HR department, he probably could have made more effort but still. If you cant give him control and make it clear to him that he doesnt have control, he wont take as much actions. As he said he had nothing to do with the post, but knew what he lost in oscar so was probably really pissed.
They let Piastri think they were retaining Alonso & he'd be stuck in the simulator or on loan at the back of the grid at Wiliams & let Alonso think he was just keeping the seat warm for Piastri.
Alpine-Renault deserved to lose both of them simultaneously.
Lost all interest in Otmars views when he started slagging Piastri for his own teams stupidity. The kid hadn't turned an F1 wheel in anger and Otmar decided the professional way to handle the situation was to vilify Oscar rather than reflect on his own operation. The contracts recognition board found in Piastris favour and Otmar continued his tirade.
I’m just so grateful that Otmar and Alpine were so incompetent. Oscar would have wasted valuable seasons racing for a bunch of losers in a sh!t car.
🥴 people like you are the reason why DTS is about drama and toxicity is a necessity in the sport
Respectfully, this footage doesn’t answer that question.
He was left without a signed contract which is as good as not having a drive?
@@MrFerrari458gto Oh I understand that, but this video doesn’t answer why Piastri didn’t sign that contract which is what the title of the video says.
@@Jackbyrne77its essentially Otmar making up excuses suggesting it was incompetence or negligence by Alpine management. People that supposedly didn't report to him
@@zacharywhite211the people he should’ve and was paid to be in charge of. Sounds like he was bad at his job and he’s too stupid to even realize he’s self snitching.
They wanted to send PS3 to Williams for 2 years and never had him sign a contract.
he was justified in bailing to Mclaren.
Who tf is PS3
I respect Otmar because others have said that at Force India he did a good job, but he's very wrong here regarding the Alpine contract situation.
1) Alonso wanted a 2 year contract, Alpine (someone there) wanted him for 1 year and then to replace him with Piastri. 2) Alpine wanted Piastri to be either a reserve and simulator driver for 1 year or to go to another team like Williams for 1 year and then take Alonso's place.
Neither Alonso nor Piastri were happy with what was offered and because Alpine/Renault thought they could negotiate forever without signing any contract with either of them, they lost them both.
Alonso got tired of getting the runaround and being treated as only a seat warmer for Piastri so left for Aston. Piastri and his manager Weber saw that no one was giving them a contract (and it has been reported that Weber tried repeatedly to contact Alpine) at all and looked around at what was available and went to McLaren.
Renault/Alpine thought that they could negotiate forever and disrespect both drivers because they somehow believed that Piastri and Alonso would be begging for a seat with the team, as if they were that successful and desirable of a team.
They got exactly what they deserved from both Alonso and Piastri.
He’s a liar and a fraud that pushes blame onto others for his own lack of leadership.
Wait so you expect a driver that’s won everything he’s gone into, is the future of the sport, and has done everything he is supposed to do from a junior driver is supposed to spend 2 years on the sidelines because you can’t figure out your driver line up 😂. Get a grip Otmar
Dude, watch the full interview. Otmar isn’t crying about this - he’s saying that he had nothing to do with it because Alpine screwed up, and then he got thrown under the bus.
@@danielakerman8241he’s whinging about spending all these resources and money on Oscar, yet Oscar was always the 2nd choice. Point being you can’t have a driver like Oscar sit 2 years out, because you can’t make your mind up over a driver line up
Dude is living the dream. Doing an interview trashing your old employer. Jealous.
Otmar didn't check the contracts/make sure they were signed. He lost two talented drivers by messing them around and not listening to them, instead he was playing the clown versus Zack and Maclaren. Alonso was after an extended 2 year or more contract, they only offered him a 1 year deal and Piastri was just after a guaranteed F1 seat.
A good leader takes the blame for whatever mistakes his employees make. It is very disappointing to see Otmar throwing other people under the bus.
Otmar didn’t get a fair go but no way was he turning that team into a top 3 team 😂
Alpine paid only a small part of piastris funding the greater part was paid by his fathers company and other company's and while all the other teams were giving their young hopefulls a drive in practice sessions piastri was sitting around doing nothing
Alpine/Renault aren't without blame, but this "it's everyone else, not me!!" mentality shows why this guy won't get touched by an F1 team despite all his experience. And even if he truly had nothing to do with the Oscar thing, he certainly had everything to do with burning the bridge with Fernando, which then forced the team to roll the dice with an all French lineup that hates one another.
Edit: and then the audacity to say that he was on track to take them to being a top 3 team!!! 😂😂😂 This guys got hot air for brains.
He literally explained that HR and communications never told him that the contract wasn’t signed. Bro’s kind enough to pay for an entire team’s salary and work hard to create a good team environment, and you are out here hating 😂😂😂😂
I agree. I tried listening to the entire podcast but honestly found it hard to listen to him for the full hour. His story of the Piastri signing sounds a bit different from what Oscar said on social media at the time where he very much indicated that Otmar played a role in it.
Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt that Renault/Alpine is a toxic environment and nearly everyone that comes away from that team say the same thing. But Otmar seems to take very little responsibility for anything. Especially given that he was a team principal I find it very hard to believe that he was squeaky clean throughout his entire stint with the team, and it was just "someone out to get him".
@@HendrickT-bi4iwOtmar talks about people caring more about their power-base than the business. My experience in corporates is just exactly that. Self interest is so often paramount. For evidence just look at the culture of the modern CEO, compensation packages continue to increase disproportionately to their staff, with the claim that a business’s success is dependent on the CEO, so you have to pay the big bucks. When they screw the pooch they get a golden handshake and they move on to the personal enrichment opportunity. Entrenched corruption and rampant in corporate culture.
Lucky escape for Oscar. Alpine is dysfunctional
As a person in high danger high stress work, Otmar is right,ppl in power backstab and do what they can to get their way or more power. I HATE it i just want to be best professional i can, and build the coolest most innovative stuff i dont care about these dumb games
This guy is so funny. Go back to his comments during the Piastri saga. It's always never his fault. He's the Donald of F1
Also, Jake knows a lot about F1. Why isn't he challenging him on previous comments? He went back once and then allowed Otmar to change the question!
@@TheN0rm5ki the fact he was talking crap about Oscar in interviews after he left Alpine is also rather strange.
This is the most softball interview that could have happened. Otmar’s account here is nonsense and he knows it. He’s missing so much detail and ignoring the reality of what happened at the time. They never challenged Otmar on the things he said about Oscar at the time and they never challenged him about the (respectfully limited) things Oscar’s team released to the media. Otmar is being very dishonest here.
The blatant hypocrisy of this man, talking about everyone was out to get me. Blaming everyone else for Oscar’s Alpine contract fiasco. If you didn’t know and had nothing to do with it Otmar, you probably shouldn’t have been taking shots at Oscars integrity and loyalty. I have absolutely zero sympathy for how you were treated at Alpine, given the way you yourself treated Oscar. Take some accountability, for your tirade on Oscar if not for anything else. This video is akin to a bully finally getting karmic justice and playing the victim. Pathetic
No, see you missed the point. What he's saying here is that there was a contract that existed which had never been acted on prior to him getting there. Once there, he was never told about the contract not being acted on. Sounds like he was operating on the belief it had been and was valid. Also, you can possibly know whether he worked it out with Oscar just cause you didn't get to see it happen, tons of things happen privately.
Absolutely agree. The guy comes across as a massive sook and a loser of a boss to not ensure his team were managing their drivers contracts correctly.
@@joshuapowers4623 irrelevant, instead of unloading a tirade on Oscar perhaps he should have checked the validity of the contract situation. He was a senior member of Alpine and is just as responsible for the mismanagement. His incompetence has been made very clear in the light of the teams he leaves improving almost immediately
I’ll I heard was “I was there for 4 months and didn’t realize WE (as a team) forgot to sign Piastri”.
As the team principal that’s his job to know. Glad they put his incompetent face in the press release.
They could have had an Alonso-Piastri combo, but because they chose to keep Ocon they lost both basically
Renault/Alpine shouldn’t be in F1
Renault have a right to be there , they suck atm but have alot of f1 history and championships
@@kiwi6665 well yes I agree they have had several championships, as an engine supplier and manufacturer, but the current set up they have should not be in F1. They clearly do not have the passion for it or real backing. It’s all political for the brand, not the racing. The race team seem to have very little say in what happens. That’s not how race teams are run. It’s greed on the brands side and management wanting all control. Not an atmospheres worthy of F1
The days where the team principal runs overall racing operation are long gone, especially when you are manufacturer team like Renault sticking their oar in at every turn. The only way it might work is if you have the likes of Toto at Mercedes, who is also a substantial shareholder in the team, so he has the political powerbase to back up his demand for as much atomany as possible on the track. It was different in the days of Flavio, where the team owner was often the team principal, but even when they weren't, the likes of Renault knew the value of having a person like Flavio as the core of their F1 operations and success duly followed. It's ironic some 15 years later Renault have returned to Flavio for advice in this latest crisis they face.
If the car is ok Mercedes-Benz powered Alpines might be competitive and cheaper to run...
@@gerardcrabb4556 Mercedes power isn't worth a damn if your team is a basket case, just look at Williams for years.
Why does it look like they are all sitting down close 😂
Primarily it's the chairs I think? They are so damn awkward looking and take up lots of space while simultaneously squashing the people inside them.
I always thought alpine tried throwing him under the bus for their incompetency.....
As a McLaren fan I'd like to thank Alpine/Renault and everyone involved such as Otmar for fucking with Oscar and Fernando XD
One of the biggest L's the French have taken in a bit 😂
True. But Otmar is playing this a bit too cool. He was definitely involved in much of the failure. His handling of the renewal with Fernando was 100% on him. It was similar failures to what happened with Oscar
I want to work for this guy. He has such a relatable attitude toward his team
And Otmar thought that it was wise to team Ocon and Gasly together knowing full well that they don’t get along on or off the track. I wonder how much they cost Alpine in car repairs.
Def can’t blame Oscar for any of it he did what he was suppose to and went with the team that gave him the best chance of winning
You dangled Piastri for a year, and didnt sign him correctly while you were fawning Alonzo, you get what you deserve.
I really hope Otmar comes back to F1
Get over yourself Otmar. You got fired at Aston and you were found out at Alpine. And no team sees value in your services despite your experience. You're just not good enough
It’s a business, and you’re a terrible business man. You prioritized a bunch of bums over a young star like Oscar. When you hit the wall and tried to slide him in at the last moment he gave you the finger.
I’m not even a McLaren fan either but this guy is a moron. Oscar leaving is entirely on Alpine and their lack of attention.
Alpine was already at the bottom of the Grid and this guy still managed to make them worse, it’s truly an accomplishment to be that incompetent.
Blah blah blah. Team failed to get contract properly done, it’s on the team, not the other party.
Did you even watch the clip?🤣🤣
Seeing this man in a podcast named "High Performance" is a joke.
Smells like a load of horses***. You can’t be the top guy and say it had nothing to do with me.
Otmar is straight up incompetent. Why give him hours in the car if the car if the contract wasn’t signed? If he deserved Piastri he would have signed him instead of being strung along by Alonso.
Otmar is Professional Victim, constantly complaining and saying it's not fair. Wherever he goes the team are appealing this or protesting that, yet they never win. Common denominator?
Alpine only have themselves to blame, and yet it seems Otmar has not learned a thing.
The damn French
Because McLaren were on the up and Alpine were already a mess, leaving Piastri facing yet another year waiting as they dithered over Alonso.
This is what happens when you let Peter Griffin run your team.
😂
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
I still don’t know why Oscar ditched Alpine for McLaren
Perhaps look at the current driver standings and you might have your answer.
@@SticksTheJon I understand why Oscar joined McLaren, but the title of the video is "Otmar on why Oscar rejected Alpine for McLaren". Otmar didn't give an explanation as to why he didn't join Alpine, he just told the facts about Alpine/Renault beeing incompetent. A more fitting title would have been "Otmar on what happened with Oscar Piastri"
@@KeNost82 Ah yes, I see what you mean 👍
They didn't sign the contract. Former F1 driver Mark Webber is Piastri's manager, and he had his share of team politics in his career culminating with the Multi-21 incident where Sebastian Vettel ignore the previous agreed on strategy that should either one of them gain advantage in the race, the other should support the team, not themselves. Vettel went and won that race despite the agreement. He's not going to let his charge suffered the same fate. When Renault/Alpine were messing around with the contract and the old one expired, Webber waste no time to seek a different deal.
Because originally he was told you don’t have a seat. He signed with Mclaren then Alpine wanted him back.
Everyone already knows how much of a mess Renault/Alpine are. Not sure what Otmar is trying to achieve with this interview. Not a good look on his part to talk trash about a former employer given the position he was in…
Zak Brown took Ricciardo and Piastri from Renault they lost Alonso and have not improved since parting with Redbull...
That Renault PU really held Red Bull back they had some great cars with a terrible Power Unit..I mean they still managed to win a few races each year despite the PU..
I don’t believe this guy a one single word.
Is not my fault is your fault basically
MUST'VE BEEN BRUNO XD
Not saying Otmar is lying here but he’s lied before. Just saying
Ask Goshen
This guy's full of s***
this sort of revisionist history will always backfire... look at where Alpine Renault is now... and look at what Brown has done with McLaren... they won the 2024 WCC and Piastri has won 2 races and podium multiple times... would he have got there with Otmar?? Piastri made the right choice. And check out Ocon and Viry Chatillon....Alpine is NOT a team that will win the wcc any time soon.
Because he could win races with McLean
😂😂😂 he took a gamble a known high profile driver would sign with him and when it didn't happen he did a 180 and tri😮ed to turn to his fallback option, a guy who he left without a drive for the previous year. meanwhile piastri knowing he was going to be forgotten if he didn't get a drive for the year ahead decided to take a guaranteed seat. 😂😂 then when the forgotten, unused piastri isnt available to be the get out of jail free card he is the worst in the world. otto is conveniently rewriting history with himself free of blame and the very man at the center of legal action against piastri knowingly admits the contract wasn't signed and there was no breach of contract to begin with, so why take him to court? or is otto now also claiming he had nothing to do with that. Also in news today otto told the truth, a shocking and unbelievable development that no one saw coming. Otto tells reporter how he found the compound osama was hiding in and tells of how he taught jesus how to walk on water.
he was right about one thing: Alpine are a devious, lying pack of Sh1t!.
Unjust Enrichment would apply to Oscar Piastri . Why not say what DID was embarrassing.
Otmar, you’re a clown and the whole paddock thought so too.
What a load of bollocks
French can’t do anything right.
pastry has zero loyalty
or he would've reminded alpine to sign before deadline
Zak Brown is a dirt bag, screwed Norris 2 races before summer break. Zak and his team are quitters. On their drivers. Manufacturers championship is the only thing they cared about. Team orange management is drunk on power.
Lmao least delusional F1 fan
Team orange 😂 yea you mean the same team orange that’s about to lead McLaren to their first Manufacturers championship in 26 years and I mean yea sure it’s not like Lando Norris has made mistake after mistake this season o wait a minute he has. 🤭
@@Michael20z4 exactly, not drivers' championship, quit 2 races before the summer break team orange.
team orange hasn't existed for 22 years mate.
@@MichaelGloverMusic really they go back to the early 70's or farther back. Where have you been.
You don't want Oscar anyways, he is not a team player.
I'm sure mclaren are crying that they don't have ricciardo right now
Team players are rarely champions.
Drivers are absolutely not incentivized to put the team first. If your aspirations are to be a nr1 driver and not a perez or bottas, you are better off throwing your team under the bus
Lolololol I found a Frenchman and/or an Alpine fan.
You're not smart. Tell that to Ferrari. Schumacher was NOT a team player. Tell that to Red Bull, Verstappen is not a team player. Hell, Lewis isn't a great team player.
The selfish win the most, it's how it is.
Did oscar ever disobey a team order? Did he ever even try to disobey a team order? I remember Lando tried to disobey on order until the last 3 or so laps of Hungary.