If Sfdebris is to be believed, Arcee IS the first female Transformer in the same way that Rhydon is the first Pokemon. What happened was that Arcee was created for the movie to appeal to the director's daughter, and so the people working on Season 2 wrote Search for Alpha Trion so that female Transformers would actually have a precedent in the fiction.
I like that Elita's been in more things, lately. My introduction to her was Animated's version, and uh... at least most other versions of Elita have happier endings (at least less fucked up fates). I also like the dynamic she has with Optimus in stuff like Skybound and TFOne, as different as they are.
I honestly kinda dig how they've made Elita more pragmatic in recent media in contrast to Optimus's traditional heroism. While most of the "hey, it's that Autobot from your childhood but they're a morally ambiguous jerk now" reinventions are ones I can't stand (I will never forgive Roberts for what he did to Star Saber), she's an exception because it makes both her as an individual and her in relation to Optimus more interesting. Heck, I'd argue that it's not all that inconsistent with what little we saw of Elita in the G1 toon and how dire things were for those Autobots who remained on Cybertron in the Marvel Comics: with how generally crappy Decepticon-ruled Cybertron is and how difficult her little squad's day-to-day life must be, I can't imagine her having the same optimism and hope that Optimus has managed to keep up. Shoutout to Ron Friedman's daughter; she's why we have Elita and her crew in the first place.
First Arcee was the go-to girl tm when they needed one. Then it was windblade but she kinda fell off the face of the planet. Its nice to have Elita have her turn in the spotlight. Im so glad in TF: ONE she avoided the "strong independent woman that needs no man" curse.
The neat detail about the POTP figure of Elita-1 is that her combiner with the other “Fembots” is Orthia. According to the wiki, Solus Prime herself created Orthia to effectively replace her in her absence. So, at least in the Combiner Wars canon, Elita-1 does hold a shred of Prime power. Ironically, POTP also had a “Who’s you Prime?” vote to decide who the “next” Prime would be. To no one’s surprise, the “winner” was Optimus Primal, who upgrades into Optimal Optimus. HOWEVER one of the contenders for the “title” was Arcee. At San Diego Comic Con 2018, Design Manager John Warden said that, assuming Arcee had won the vote, her Prime name would have been something akin to “Arcana Magnus”. And what an awesome name that is! While Arcana obviously comes from Arcane, Magnus is interesting here. Ultra Magnus was also a contender, so it’s likely not a direct reference to him, but perhaps the Magnus Hammer? And an “arcane hammer” 100% sounds like a reference to Solus Prime. Isn’t that weirdly ironic? Elita-1’s combined form and the only name we have for a potential “Arcee Prime” BOTH from POTP, both referencing Solus Prime… They’re both kind of obscure bits of trivia that I don’t see get shared around a lot. 4 years have passed and I’m the only one I’ve seen to draw the connection.
I find it funny how Arcee was always used as the default female character, then it became Windblade for a time; and now we have Elita-1. I’d love a series with all of them. Maybe someday, Strongarm will have another time to shine, too.
I think Earthspark and TFOne have given us two of the best renditions of Elita-1. Earthspark Elita is a true Action Girl, and TFOne was very much how I've always imagined her from her one G1 appearance, with how she was running her miner team very much like a commando squad. It's great that she's been getting more modern exposure, and it's more than 'on off girlfriend for Optimus who doesn't really have time for romance'. But now I hope Hasbro remembers there's room for more than one top tier femme, and we still see Arcee and Windblade (and bring back Strongarm for something!)
I thought Starscream came out first when it came to Power of the Primes. Also, I love that the Power of the Primes toy makes her a big and buff. And I love that
I love that Elita’s been getting so much prominence lately, and at this point, she’s become my favorite female character in the series. I hope she sticks around as a mainstay of the franchise, especially if it leads to her getting more good toys, especially at higher size classes. I love the size and bulk of her PotP figure, if we could get more Elitas in a similar Voyager scale, that’d be great.
Elita is more similar to D-16 in ONE, but she is not holding herself back and does not invest emotionally in anyone nor embraces the status quo of Sentinel's corrupt establishment. They are both angry bots and prone to violence, but she has OP to look up to, while Megs only had Sentinel and Megatronus to idolize. 17:27 Idea for Cybertronian metal-80'synth band: Lead guitar is Elita with OP's blaster as guitar, that snap goes hard. This new comics Elita has the potential to be radicalized and wave war against Prime fueled by pure hatred and resentment, still better than she just dying off lmao. She can EZ take the vacant spot Megs left, TBH lowkey want them to keep Megs dead or IDK have Starscream be rebuilt with the buckethead parts or something.
As I understand it, Season 2 and the movie were produced in parallel, but Arcee was the first character created after Ron Friedman's pitch to include female Autobots. All of the characters from The Search for Alpha Trion were created after that.
I don't have a lot of "modern" Transformers, but I have the War for Cybertron Elita-1 (the Walmart-exclusive retool of Earthrise Arcee). It's a purchase that I only somewhat regret (because at least the vehicle mode looks nice).
Girl fight with Airachnid aside, I really appreciated in One that when they were receiving their Prime cogs, they, they notably did not give Elita Solus’s.
4:32 and Arcee was only prominent in season 3 due to her already having been firmly established in the original scripts of the Transformers movie, so maybe Sunbow and Hasbro thought it'd be redundant to have two pink female Autobots in the main team? The 80s were a much different time from today.
Sorry TJ, but the issue is, Arcee IS the first female Transformer Character that was realised. First, Ratchet should be female since he is a reference to Nurse Ratchet. But Hasbro didn't wanted that because they thought female Transformers are not appealing for the Main Audience (young Boys). Ron Friedman however FOUGHT against Hasbro because he wanted to bring in a female Transformer in his Movie which was Arcee. And he actually won, Hasbro gave in. It's because of him winning that other Writers for the Cartoon Series were encouraged to add in female Transformers like Elita One, Moonracer and so on. Would it have played out like Hasbro wanted at the time, there wouldn't be any female Transformers at all. So no, you are actually incorrect, Arcee was the first female Transformer that got realised but she was shown at a later time since she was planned for the Movie. Arcee was written in since the very first Draft, the first Draft of the Movie had lot of differences like Wheeljack being alive and Part of the Main Cast. Being sexist towards Arcee but during the Movie getting a Kiss from her. Ron Friedman wrote the first Draft between November 1984 and February 1985. So Arcee is likely written in since Late 1984, weakening Hasbros Points for the Cartoon Series so other Writers got encouraged for Fembots 1985. Watch Chris McFeelys Video on the first Movie Draft, with some Help from Fan Artists he showed us what the First Draft had in Hand. The Search for Alpha Trion and War Dawn were written after Friedmans win against Hasbro.
My intro to her was the IDW 1.0 version and I was so sad at the time that we didn’t have a toy of her. I grabbed up the PotP version just to have some representation of the character even though I never liked that toy. The Netflix toy was a little bit better but that head sculpt on it sucked. And of course it’s the problematic Siege Arcee. Glad we finally have a proper toy of her.
I'm especially happy that she's finally getting her long overdue due as the true first ONSCREEN (but not production, sadly. Elita still owes her existence to Arcee) female Transformer, true 2nd in command, and Optimus Prime's partner and equal. However, it's high time we stopped taking baby steps with her toys if she's getting more media attention. Coz, I'm sorry, I have to disagree with the idea Legacy Elita is designed to be her first. At best, she's half designed with Minerva in mind, and it's REALLY obvious that Minerva is in the design, namely the backpack and the chest design. Not to mention, WHY MAKE HER THAT SMALL!? She's tiny, even for a Deluxe. And with 86 Optimus as now the definitive take, the size is embarrassing. If she already looked like Voyager Optimus should be arrested by Cybertronian FBI, then 86 Optimus should be put on a list. She NEEDS a Voyager, one that makes her tall enough to at least be the height of his pecs, coz that's how tall she is in G1, Netflix, and Earthspark. Not necessarily about scale, but a size respectable for her. POTP is still the perfect size for 86 Optimus.
Admitting PotP Elita was a pretool of Starscream, but not admitting Legacy Elita was a pretool of Minerva is problematic. Saying that this mold was the first that was truly her, but it really was truly Minerva, they just released her first again, like PotP. 😅
I really want the TFOne version of her. Though I've kept the PotP figure on display. Her name is Airlift and she's the Femme's emergency/medical evac specialist.
Alita gets some of the best insults in TF0ne calling Orion and D16 "Go-Bots" lol, and Shock wave "blinky". Also punching anyone in the head who steps out of line "She punched me in my eye" lol.
Love my potp Elita-1 Just badass and love the bulkyness of her !!! Goes with her attitude and demeanor!!! And she 1 of the best Warriors male or female💯 Also a combiner😎💯
I love Elita and im so glad shes getting the spotlight she deserves but lets not put her and Arcee against each other. I know its not how you meant it and Arcee sharing the spotlight is long overdue but the idea of setting aside one of the most prominent characters in the franchise to be portrayed as queer in favor of a character who has been, in large part, defined by her relationship with a male character rubs me the wrong way. a paranoid little bit of my brain is afraid that Hasbro is starting to push Elita over Arcee because she isn't "tainted" with queerness
One difference on the Disney comparison... Disney itself likes to feed "first whatever" claims to news sources for PR/marketing purposes, with the fan base then rallying with "no, they aren't". I don't think Hasbro ever did that with Arcee? (I may be wrong, maybe Hasbro has done that.)
What a coincidence that this comes out after the basics on Elita-1 comes out lol
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Honestly I wouldn’t mind if more TF creators coordinate their videos more often
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If Sfdebris is to be believed, Arcee IS the first female Transformer in the same way that Rhydon is the first Pokemon. What happened was that Arcee was created for the movie to appeal to the director's daughter, and so the people working on Season 2 wrote Search for Alpha Trion so that female Transformers would actually have a precedent in the fiction.
I like that Elita's been in more things, lately. My introduction to her was Animated's version, and uh... at least most other versions of Elita have happier endings (at least less fucked up fates). I also like the dynamic she has with Optimus in stuff like Skybound and TFOne, as different as they are.
I honestly kinda dig how they've made Elita more pragmatic in recent media in contrast to Optimus's traditional heroism. While most of the "hey, it's that Autobot from your childhood but they're a morally ambiguous jerk now" reinventions are ones I can't stand (I will never forgive Roberts for what he did to Star Saber), she's an exception because it makes both her as an individual and her in relation to Optimus more interesting. Heck, I'd argue that it's not all that inconsistent with what little we saw of Elita in the G1 toon and how dire things were for those Autobots who remained on Cybertron in the Marvel Comics: with how generally crappy Decepticon-ruled Cybertron is and how difficult her little squad's day-to-day life must be, I can't imagine her having the same optimism and hope that Optimus has managed to keep up.
Shoutout to Ron Friedman's daughter; she's why we have Elita and her crew in the first place.
First Arcee was the go-to girl tm when they needed one.
Then it was windblade but she kinda fell off the face of the planet.
Its nice to have Elita have her turn in the spotlight.
Im so glad in TF: ONE she avoided the "strong independent woman that needs no man" curse.
they didnt avoid it lol. they just did it 100% right, which is why we believe in her capabilites and love her
The neat detail about the POTP figure of Elita-1 is that her combiner with the other “Fembots” is Orthia. According to the wiki, Solus Prime herself created Orthia to effectively replace her in her absence. So, at least in the Combiner Wars canon, Elita-1 does hold a shred of Prime power.
Ironically, POTP also had a “Who’s you Prime?” vote to decide who the “next” Prime would be. To no one’s surprise, the “winner” was Optimus Primal, who upgrades into Optimal Optimus. HOWEVER one of the contenders for the “title” was Arcee. At San Diego Comic Con 2018, Design Manager John Warden said that, assuming Arcee had won the vote, her Prime name would have been something akin to “Arcana Magnus”. And what an awesome name that is! While Arcana obviously comes from Arcane, Magnus is interesting here. Ultra Magnus was also a contender, so it’s likely not a direct reference to him, but perhaps the Magnus Hammer? And an “arcane hammer” 100% sounds like a reference to Solus Prime.
Isn’t that weirdly ironic? Elita-1’s combined form and the only name we have for a potential “Arcee Prime” BOTH from POTP, both referencing Solus Prime…
They’re both kind of obscure bits of trivia that I don’t see get shared around a lot. 4 years have passed and I’m the only one I’ve seen to draw the connection.
I find it funny how Arcee was always used as the default female character, then it became Windblade for a time; and now we have Elita-1. I’d love a series with all of them. Maybe someday, Strongarm will have another time to shine, too.
Elita, Arcee, Windblade, Strongarm and Chromia should be in a team together. Also add Nautica and Moonracer too because they deserve it.
I think Earthspark and TFOne have given us two of the best renditions of Elita-1. Earthspark Elita is a true Action Girl, and TFOne was very much how I've always imagined her from her one G1 appearance, with how she was running her miner team very much like a commando squad.
It's great that she's been getting more modern exposure, and it's more than 'on off girlfriend for Optimus who doesn't really have time for romance'. But now I hope Hasbro remembers there's room for more than one top tier femme, and we still see Arcee and Windblade (and bring back Strongarm for something!)
I thought Starscream came out first when it came to Power of the Primes.
Also, I love that the Power of the Primes toy makes her a big and buff. And I love that
I love that Elita’s been getting so much prominence lately, and at this point, she’s become my favorite female character in the series. I hope she sticks around as a mainstay of the franchise, especially if it leads to her getting more good toys, especially at higher size classes. I love the size and bulk of her PotP figure, if we could get more Elitas in a similar Voyager scale, that’d be great.
POTP, legacy and ES are my favorite incarnations of Elita-1
Elita is more similar to D-16 in ONE, but she is not holding herself back and does not invest emotionally in anyone nor embraces the status quo of Sentinel's corrupt establishment. They are both angry bots and prone to violence, but she has OP to look up to, while Megs only had Sentinel and Megatronus to idolize.
17:27 Idea for Cybertronian metal-80'synth band: Lead guitar is Elita with OP's blaster as guitar, that snap goes hard.
This new comics Elita has the potential to be radicalized and wave war against Prime fueled by pure hatred and resentment, still better than she just dying off lmao. She can EZ take the vacant spot Megs left, TBH lowkey want them to keep Megs dead or IDK have Starscream be rebuilt with the buckethead parts or something.
I’m glad Elita 1 has become a main stay of the franchise like Soundwave and Grimlock
As I understand it, Season 2 and the movie were produced in parallel, but Arcee was the first character created after Ron Friedman's pitch to include female Autobots. All of the characters from The Search for Alpha Trion were created after that.
She's number one
Funny. Chris Mcfeely's doing an updated Basics episode on Elita-1 this weekend.
I don't have a lot of "modern" Transformers, but I have the War for Cybertron Elita-1 (the Walmart-exclusive retool of Earthrise Arcee). It's a purchase that I only somewhat regret (because at least the vehicle mode looks nice).
I love this channel! You are always very consistent with your content in terms of quality and with the frequent uploads.
I loved Animated & the One version
Potp elita one was the best design with it sharing first place with tf one’s elita one.
Girl fight with Airachnid aside, I really appreciated in One that when they were receiving their Prime cogs, they, they notably did not give Elita Solus’s.
Solus was impailed through the chest so her cog would've been severely damaged.
Heinard- Beast Wars Neo has a time stop ability!
4:32 and Arcee was only prominent in season 3 due to her already having been firmly established in the original scripts of the Transformers movie, so maybe Sunbow and Hasbro thought it'd be redundant to have two pink female Autobots in the main team? The 80s were a much different time from today.
Sorry TJ, but the issue is, Arcee IS the first female Transformer Character that was realised. First, Ratchet should be female since he is a reference to Nurse Ratchet. But Hasbro didn't wanted that because they thought female Transformers are not appealing for the Main Audience (young Boys). Ron Friedman however FOUGHT against Hasbro because he wanted to bring in a female Transformer in his Movie which was Arcee. And he actually won, Hasbro gave in. It's because of him winning that other Writers for the Cartoon Series were encouraged to add in female Transformers like Elita One, Moonracer and so on. Would it have played out like Hasbro wanted at the time, there wouldn't be any female Transformers at all. So no, you are actually incorrect, Arcee was the first female Transformer that got realised but she was shown at a later time since she was planned for the Movie. Arcee was written in since the very first Draft, the first Draft of the Movie had lot of differences like Wheeljack being alive and Part of the Main Cast. Being sexist towards Arcee but during the Movie getting a Kiss from her.
Ron Friedman wrote the first Draft between November 1984 and February 1985. So Arcee is likely written in since Late 1984, weakening Hasbros Points for the Cartoon Series so other Writers got encouraged for Fembots 1985. Watch Chris McFeelys Video on the first Movie Draft, with some Help from Fan Artists he showed us what the First Draft had in Hand. The Search for Alpha Trion and War Dawn were written after Friedmans win against Hasbro.
Heinrad has a time stop ability.
Not gonna lie, I would love a show about Elita back on Cybertron taking on Shockwave.
Doesn’t movie Hot Rod have a time stop gun.?
Yes
A podcast involving TJ and Vangelus ? Where do I sign up ??
i wished elita-1 appeared in the unicron trilogy and cyberverse
My intro to her was the IDW 1.0 version and I was so sad at the time that we didn’t have a toy of her. I grabbed up the PotP version just to have some representation of the character even though I never liked that toy. The Netflix toy was a little bit better but that head sculpt on it sucked. And of course it’s the problematic Siege Arcee. Glad we finally have a proper toy of her.
I'm especially happy that she's finally getting her long overdue due as the true first ONSCREEN (but not production, sadly. Elita still owes her existence to Arcee) female Transformer, true 2nd in command, and Optimus Prime's partner and equal. However, it's high time we stopped taking baby steps with her toys if she's getting more media attention.
Coz, I'm sorry, I have to disagree with the idea Legacy Elita is designed to be her first. At best, she's half designed with Minerva in mind, and it's REALLY obvious that Minerva is in the design, namely the backpack and the chest design.
Not to mention, WHY MAKE HER THAT SMALL!? She's tiny, even for a Deluxe. And with 86 Optimus as now the definitive take, the size is embarrassing. If she already looked like Voyager Optimus should be arrested by Cybertronian FBI, then 86 Optimus should be put on a list.
She NEEDS a Voyager, one that makes her tall enough to at least be the height of his pecs, coz that's how tall she is in G1, Netflix, and Earthspark. Not necessarily about scale, but a size respectable for her. POTP is still the perfect size for 86 Optimus.
Still waiting for an actual Solus Prime figure, HasBro.
Shouldn't have to wait long. She's supposedly one of the deluxes in wave 1 of Age of the Primes
Voyager Class is best suited for her, especially her Hammer.
Admitting PotP Elita was a pretool of Starscream, but not admitting Legacy Elita was a pretool of Minerva is problematic. Saying that this mold was the first that was truly her, but it really was truly Minerva, they just released her first again, like PotP. 😅
I really want the TFOne version of her. Though I've kept the PotP figure on display. Her name is Airlift and she's the Femme's emergency/medical evac specialist.
Alita gets some of the best insults in TF0ne calling Orion and D16 "Go-Bots" lol, and Shock wave "blinky". Also punching anyone in the head who steps out of line "She punched me in my eye" lol.
Love my potp Elita-1
Just badass and love the bulkyness of her !!! Goes with her attitude and demeanor!!! And she 1 of the best Warriors male or female💯
Also a combiner😎💯
I love Elita and im so glad shes getting the spotlight she deserves but lets not put her and Arcee against each other. I know its not how you meant it and Arcee sharing the spotlight is long overdue but the idea of setting aside one of the most prominent characters in the franchise to be portrayed as queer in favor of a character who has been, in large part, defined by her relationship with a male character rubs me the wrong way. a paranoid little bit of my brain is afraid that Hasbro is starting to push Elita over Arcee because she isn't "tainted" with queerness
One difference on the Disney comparison... Disney itself likes to feed "first whatever" claims to news sources for PR/marketing purposes, with the fan base then rallying with "no, they aren't". I don't think Hasbro ever did that with Arcee? (I may be wrong, maybe Hasbro has done that.)