I've been contemplating on switching from ranger to dancer/bard for the longest time but very happy that i stuck with ranger until now. Everything pays off now.
according to formula...20%+30*skill LV...mean from 40% after class balance 320%....i tested using int ranger...tune on skill lvl...compare precision shot lvl 1 and precision shot lvl 10...result falcon dmg remain the same...only increase on arrow dmg.. my question...is it after class balance it only benefit dex ranger...? int ranger remain the same
Balancing has been long overdue but I'm actually glad they finally listened. (however partially) To the majority of bard/dancer mains out there, no hard feelings. I hope we get to see more diverse gameplay moments going forward about time to let some of the underdogs shine.
Spend a lot of money, job got nerfed in 3 balancing updates in a row. This time DPS drop by more than 20%, AGI build Dancer is already suffering from lesser P.Atk compared to INT Bard because each AGI only give 2 P.Atk to Dancer while Bard gets 4 P.Atk for each INT, now we literally have no reason to play anymore. I don't mind any nerf if the cost to transfer job is reasonable. But yeah... I guess it's time to be free from the game now
Yeah its better if u never return ..u only played bard/dancer because they so op in damage now that they were normalized u cry like uve been cheated lol...have u ever tried using other classes like ranger, thief, or any other class and spend so much that no matter what u do the bard/dancer class still easily out damage u...but still u continue to play that char because u want that class....so the likes of u should never ever play again in this game
Ya, I played most of the other classes except for wizard. For my character specifically, I transfer from STR build GX to AGI Dancer. Redo the weapon investment and enchantment. Changing from Critical to Penetration build, and that takes a lot of resources and time, more than a year. All because I like the job, if I want to be meta, I would choose Monk instead because they were so much better than Dancer. And of course I'm upset that their damage is nerfed, when I'm paying money to invest for the character, I'm building my decision based on the information I have and that's why I think it was worth it. But now they changed that to be worse, they give major nerf to Dancer at every single balancing update. I feel betrayed, they take my money and when they done doing so, they release new jobs and make the old jobs weaker so you are forced to play the new job instead. One way to do better is just to buff all other classes that are still lacking, rather than just specifically bullying 1 class that's not even close to being the highest DPS in the game.
@@franky6983 have u seen a ranger 5 lvls above with decent items got killed by bard/dancer with only +6blue wep with just two skills? Or a knight with high hp just turned to waste by a bard...?? If u think bard and dancer class were not that op then somethings wrong with u
@@cktdubson1745 at that time to catch up my progress, its harsh when you transfer job midway in the game because you can no longer farm efficiently, unless you already prepare everything from the get go. Back then, job transferring was relatively a new thing and I had to change my build drastically from STR to AGI, so if I don't spend, then I will be a burden to my party.
I think 4th job will further define the job class role in the game, hopefully all job will have their own strength on certain aspect of the game according to their intended playstyle.
What RoX needs to adjust and buff: 1. Book Sage - auto spell and spell fist is shit. You also need 3 stats ADI DEX and INT. Even with whale resources, they’ll still be shit 2. Spear Knight - they become extinct 3. Spear Crusader - they’re useless af and no point building one. Like Knights they should also have access to some defensive skills of the Crusader 4. 2H Sword Crusader - same as above 5. 2H Wizard - it’s a shit show. 1H is better. Ghost and Neutral skills like Napalm Vulcan, etc are all useless, Earth Skills are also terrible. 6. Katar type Assassin - Extinct 7. 2H priest - They’re strong supports, but the problem is solo grinding 8. Shortbow Hunter - it’s either you go crit or you go INT. I can’t find Hunters anymore in our server 9. The Wizard class - Why go wizard if Super novice is better? RoX devs needs to play their own game. They’re out of touch with reality.
Bard/Dancer crying in the comment section while we Monk HK CRIT/AGI gigachad reaction 🗿 ahh yes good game they nerfed the wrong Monk instead of LK PEN/STR.
Hi Everyone!!!! Who has characters in the Korean server? I want to know Bard/Dance How much has the impact been reduced from yesterday's updated. Has anyone tested it?
Yes finally , took them so long to nerf, I had complain so many time alrdy, suggest do job balance more frequent like quarterly..bard/dancer are too op and hope not overnerf
Nerf %damage stack musical strike is good choice. But lower the distance to much will make bard/dancer user suffering. Can't take 2-3 more spot afk anymore. Now se skill each class is ballancing. Just se shorthow user need improve a little.
It's called balancing. Bard / Dancer are OP in terms of PVP and PVE. They steal most spots in the grinding area too, making other jobs disregard doing afk because of the dominance of the bard/dancer. Almost all jobs in rox now are bard/dancer.
Bard and dancer are supposed to be a supporting role, not DPS. And also shura is still to OP compared to other DPs with the same setup and grade shura still on the top tier dps. Thanks to dev they nerf shura 😂
@@tatsdgreat8886 ok thank you no hate. im just confuse usually not seeing DeF word when its about pen in rox. but i know 1 thing that you need penetration even there is no Def at all. "double vaginal penetration" 😅🤣
Devs nerf throw arrow/musical strike SE pen stacking passive and energy beat range, but not eternal chaos buff,severe rainstorm and arrow vulcan where bard/dancer main dmg comes from 😅 They don't care being nerfed, they can just get it back from Pet, cards or enchant.
It is spear RG, currently this class with spear build is not good with no damage and speciality. I guess developer try to shift the job meta so that more people going to build this RG type since the damage is improved a lot
Lol did u ever see a spear RG in PVP and PVE? It's most likely useless skill tree. High investment and low DMG that's why no one is using it. RG are build for tanking so it should be put it that way but spear build are rare because of low DMG.
Lol bard/dancer is way to OP in PVP and PVE and even in BH. in RG, it's a spear build and almost no one is using that build because it's way to expensive to invest and the DMG is too low results to being useless skill tree.
Most of the ROX community switch/pick dancer/bard class cuz its very easy to use and so many varieties of play style. Whale friendly and F2P friendly ofc... They will nerf it cuz of u cry babies who envies bard/dancer bcuz bard/dancer can destroy any monster or Bosses with cheap build which u cant do with ur trash build and poor choice of character/job class. F2P and Dolphins cant switch to any job easily so their choices is either trade or quit. Why nerf when u can buff other job class? Where's the balance?
This class is so annoying getting other spot when they already see someone grinding on that spot. This is not hate just accept the fact that this job has no respect for others when grinding mobs. They deserve this!
thank god. No nerf for ninja. If you only knew how we can wipe whales in kvm and gvg even without proper gear is mindblowing. hahaha! even 300m hp is 1 hit. AB and vit type players were traumatized.
This balancing still does almost nothing to dancer class. They still have insanely high dmg due to their high pen, even without additional pen from SE. The dev nerf insignificant skills, with insignificant impact. 12 m shortened 8 m ?? Joking, can still secure 2 spots easily. Btw, those buffs for hunter are no joke tho 😁😁👌
U r all soft and crying babies. When times it is OP you u ddnt complain too strong. Balancing is good for better competition. U spend because u know its OP and taking advantage of the game. We r d true ROX players the who pioneered playing the game. U dont know the struggle haha
Yah bard / Dancer are everywhere. PVP, PVE, BH, self sustainability. They're like 1 man job. They have all the good perks. They have immunity to fatal also and resu hahaha 🤣
this is not being a crybaby, imo a nerf in job class is as damaging as failing at refine, even more and make people want to quit the game. ive seen people argue about dancers and bards taking 3 spots or more when afk grinding in new servers, but they don't understand that in late game these jobs are not rlly that strong. not to mention how harder it is to find multiple spots in endgame maps like comodo, umbala, and so on. furthermore, in terms of dmg, shura, gx, suno, even well invested rangers are more than capable to compete and beat them easily. and even that this job still keep getting all the nerfs like straight multiple times. if you guys complain dat these jobs are too strong in early game, why not buff other class like ranger,etc only and let dancers and bards stay the way it is? then ofc there will be balance. if dancers and bards keep getting nerfed, there wont even be anymore dps dancers and bards, all will become support since their damage cant compete as it always seems to get nerfed. its just upsetting that despite of how much money, crystals, even a lot of time invested in building the character, it won't affect much or even worse ur damage will only get lower since it keeps getting nerfed. so please try to be considerate to other people at least once rather than being too consumed in ur pov and saying dat all of these people are cry babies.
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What do you think of this time job balance?
I've been contemplating on switching from ranger to dancer/bard for the longest time but very happy that i stuck with ranger until now. Everything pays off now.
Int ranger are still good?
according to formula...20%+30*skill LV...mean from 40% after class balance 320%....i tested using int ranger...tune on skill lvl...compare precision shot lvl 1 and precision shot lvl 10...result falcon dmg remain the same...only increase on arrow dmg.. my question...is it after class balance it only benefit dex ranger...? int ranger remain the same
Go all in dex😂😂
yeah, finally i can see more varieties of job class in my guild
As a hunter class adventurer this update makes me happy...
Shout out REDHORSE PH GUILD from AYOTHANA/BNH server
Thank god for balancing that bard dancer. They always dominate in every new server.
finally can see lesser green SM army in a party
was looking forward with more crusader revamp, well spear crusader will become a good option after this patch XD thanks KingSpade! love your vids!
1:07 it's written as Naver but it called 네이버 neibeo (nei-boh)
Ohhh thanks, now i know how to pronounce it
Finally rox heard us all rangers !!!!!! Hoooorraaaaah !!!!
Finally farm 2-3 spot end. Good for another class.
Balancing has been long overdue but I'm actually glad they finally listened. (however partially)
To the majority of bard/dancer mains out there, no hard feelings.
I hope we get to see more diverse gameplay moments going forward
about time to let some of the underdogs shine.
crusader job tree be like.. we the chosen ones!
Welcome back rangers XD
Thought the balance of knight is the dragon mounting 😂
Yey for Ranger!
Spend a lot of money, job got nerfed in 3 balancing updates in a row. This time DPS drop by more than 20%, AGI build Dancer is already suffering from lesser P.Atk compared to INT Bard because each AGI only give 2 P.Atk to Dancer while Bard gets 4 P.Atk for each INT, now we literally have no reason to play anymore. I don't mind any nerf if the cost to transfer job is reasonable. But yeah... I guess it's time to be free from the game now
Yeah its better if u never return ..u only played bard/dancer because they so op in damage now that they were normalized u cry like uve been cheated lol...have u ever tried using other classes like ranger, thief, or any other class and spend so much that no matter what u do the bard/dancer class still easily out damage u...but still u continue to play that char because u want that class....so the likes of u should never ever play again in this game
Ya, I played most of the other classes except for wizard. For my character specifically, I transfer from STR build GX to AGI Dancer. Redo the weapon investment and enchantment. Changing from Critical to Penetration build, and that takes a lot of resources and time, more than a year. All because I like the job, if I want to be meta, I would choose Monk instead because they were so much better than Dancer.
And of course I'm upset that their damage is nerfed, when I'm paying money to invest for the character, I'm building my decision based on the information I have and that's why I think it was worth it. But now they changed that to be worse, they give major nerf to Dancer at every single balancing update. I feel betrayed, they take my money and when they done doing so, they release new jobs and make the old jobs weaker so you are forced to play the new job instead.
One way to do better is just to buff all other classes that are still lacking, rather than just specifically bullying 1 class that's not even close to being the highest DPS in the game.
@@franky6983 have u seen a ranger 5 lvls above with decent items got killed by bard/dancer with only +6blue wep with just two skills? Or a knight with high hp just turned to waste by a bard...?? If u think bard and dancer class were not that op then somethings wrong with u
but why spend money ?
@@cktdubson1745 at that time to catch up my progress, its harsh when you transfer job midway in the game because you can no longer farm efficiently, unless you already prepare everything from the get go. Back then, job transferring was relatively a new thing and I had to change my build drastically from STR to AGI, so if I don't spend, then I will be a burden to my party.
So basically the thief (GX skill tree) skill can crit + str dmg multiplier.
they should add spear shield build to RG as well just saying
Do you think is there's any job balance coming for Lv140?
I think 4th job will further define the job class role in the game, hopefully all job will have their own strength on certain aspect of the game according to their intended playstyle.
Really?! Right when I've finally got 25k p.atk on my Bard? Hot dang I thought the range was the only one affected but damn even the damage is reduced
finally ranger 😭😭😭
Finally dex crit rangers are somewhat alive again
rk spear left the group
Better to remove the decrease final damage bonus in Rangers Vulture's Eye
Very good update they should be more on buff not heavy damager
when it will be implemented in SEA Rox server?
What RoX needs to adjust and buff:
1. Book Sage - auto spell and spell fist is shit. You also need 3 stats ADI DEX and INT. Even with whale resources, they’ll still be shit
2. Spear Knight - they become extinct
3. Spear Crusader - they’re useless af and no point building one. Like Knights they should also have access to some defensive skills of the Crusader
4. 2H Sword Crusader - same as above
5. 2H Wizard - it’s a shit show. 1H is better. Ghost and Neutral skills like Napalm Vulcan, etc are all useless, Earth Skills are also terrible.
6. Katar type Assassin - Extinct
7. 2H priest - They’re strong supports, but the problem is solo grinding
8. Shortbow Hunter - it’s either you go crit or you go INT. I can’t find Hunters anymore in our server
9. The Wizard class - Why go wizard if Super novice is better?
RoX devs needs to play their own game. They’re out of touch with reality.
The problem in hunter is the vulture eye
Bard/Dancer crying in the comment section while we Monk HK CRIT/AGI gigachad reaction 🗿 ahh yes good game they nerfed the wrong Monk instead of LK PEN/STR.
Is the stalker not included in the "thief" class? Is this all the job balancing?
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Hi Everyone!!!! Who has characters in the Korean server?
I want to know Bard/Dance How much has the impact been reduced from yesterday's updated. Has anyone tested it?
Yes finally , took them so long to nerf, I had complain so many time alrdy, suggest do job balance more frequent like quarterly..bard/dancer are too op and hope not overnerf
Actually its not ever nerf...their penetration is just too much thats why they deal so much dmge....
They should have revamp high wizard meteor storm.
This. Skill so shit beyond saving.
Playing clown on mid server game, even not reach 3rd job yet and suddenly got nerf really hard, it's either quit or change job situation 😅
how about ninja? prior to one month debut got nerfed lol
You can change to int type ranger. You will only change weapon 😅 but the enchant and most of equips are the same.
Finally this 2 Greed Job was Nerf there's to greed specially Afk grind
GoodBye ROX .. hahaha
Nerf %damage stack musical strike is good choice. But lower the distance to much will make bard/dancer user suffering. Can't take 2-3 more spot afk anymore.
Now se skill each class is ballancing. Just se shorthow user need improve a little.
It's called balancing. Bard / Dancer are OP in terms of PVP and PVE. They steal most spots in the grinding area too, making other jobs disregard doing afk because of the dominance of the bard/dancer.
Almost all jobs in rox now are bard/dancer.
Kor ser new tire
1. Hunter (dps X3-5)
2. Pen mok
3. Th night
4. Assasin katar
5. Dan . Bard (patch dmg 30% down)
6.7 8.. 9 . Cri monk R.I.P
How come 30% dmg reduce? Only musical strike has been nerf right? Still good though (excluding the range nerf which really sucks)
spear knight still no love from devs my favorite but the forgotten class.
They should buff ninja class😅
Make it good buff
they nerfed it prior 1 month debut bro
RIP GX DAGGER
crusader job tree be like.... we the chosen ones!
hunters be like.. dont wear armor no more it makes no difference to us..
job balance my ^%^!#8^
Bard and dancer are supposed to be a supporting role, not DPS. And also shura is still to OP compared to other DPs with the same setup and grade shura still on the top tier dps. Thanks to dev they nerf shura 😂
Bard dancer afk 4 spots hows other class grinding mobs?? 😅
Just made a Wanderer for exp bonus 😂
Is there gonna be a new server
Most probably when taekwon class is available
Me who uses meteor assault on my assassin in pve...
More Damage🤩
i think its not pentration king . it says physical DEF penetration. what do you think?
It is the final penetration stat, It's the way how korean say it for final penetration, it have the def word
@puregaming its the exact word...def penetration...where do u think penetration works? On enemy's offense? Ofcorz its on their defense bruh
@@tatsdgreat8886 ok thank you no hate. im just confuse usually not seeing DeF word when its about pen in rox. but i know 1 thing that you need penetration even there is no Def at all. "double vaginal penetration" 😅🤣
@@KingSpadeGaming thnak you!
RIP for dagger assassin, still in the sewer🤣
I love king 😘😘😘
Link please
Bard/dancer is kinda OP in cc + dmg. We're glad that this OP job is nerf. They just cc you until u die hahaha
When new server ?
King spade should i play right now in the old server as a new player ?
As long as you enjoy playing it, have supportive friends, you're good.
no vultures eye adjustment?
Nope just 2 Ranger skill got buff and they added Pen on truesight
Devs nerf throw arrow/musical strike SE pen stacking passive and energy beat range, but not eternal chaos buff,severe rainstorm and arrow vulcan where bard/dancer main dmg comes from 😅
They don't care being nerfed, they can just get it back from Pet, cards or enchant.
Bakit prang wala ung soul linker dito sa taekwon class
Atkspd or skill type hunter?
Skilltype dex +pen
Or crit dex type
Aspd = int usually
Balancing means dex ranger can go toe to toe with int type ranger
Spending $0 in this game makes me happy
We rangers has a buff?
Yeshh
When do you think this will be implemented?
Yeah, and the buffs are no joke
i cant find the aim shooting skill where is that? haha
Precision shot
Google translated differently
GS class still getting snobbed like they dont exists 😂😂😂
Why buff the rg? They should nerf it.
It is spear RG, currently this class with spear build is not good with no damage and speciality. I guess developer try to shift the job meta so that more people going to build this RG type since the damage is improved a lot
if they still do nothing to the spear RG, this job class will be heading to museum to get dust
Lol did u ever see a spear RG in PVP and PVE? It's most likely useless skill tree. High investment and low DMG that's why no one is using it. RG are build for tanking so it should be put it that way but spear build are rare because of low DMG.
Short Bow type
more pen!
Pri3st here
First
poor monk HKN
The nerf for bard/dancer is way too much. People having beef with the job for being strong...
Indeed and yet they buff the rg which is really ridiculous.
Lol bard/dancer is way to OP in PVP and PVE and even in BH. in RG, it's a spear build and almost no one is using that build because it's way to expensive to invest and the DMG is too low results to being useless skill tree.
Most of the ROX community switch/pick dancer/bard class cuz its very easy to use and so many varieties of play style.
Whale friendly and F2P friendly ofc... They will nerf it cuz of u cry babies who envies bard/dancer bcuz bard/dancer can destroy any monster or Bosses with cheap build which u cant do with ur trash build and poor choice of character/job class.
F2P and Dolphins cant switch to any job easily so their choices is either trade or quit.
Why nerf when u can buff other job class?
Where's the balance?
@@0_BGLUAWMLthis, this! If other job is lacking, fix that god damn job instead of making every good class worse.
This class is so annoying getting other spot when they already see someone grinding on that spot. This is not hate just accept the fact that this job has no respect for others when grinding mobs. They deserve this!
thank god. No nerf for ninja. If you only knew how we can wipe whales in kvm and gvg even without proper gear is mindblowing. hahaha! even 300m hp is 1 hit. AB and vit type players were traumatized.
pls teach me how ;)
Dagger ninja or shuriken?
Ty for nerfing bard gypsy
Trapper SE buff :(
oh no.. don't have trapper adjustment this time
1sr
This balancing still does almost nothing to dancer class. They still have insanely high dmg due to their high pen, even without additional pen from SE.
The dev nerf insignificant skills, with insignificant impact.
12 m shortened 8 m ?? Joking, can still secure 2 spots easily.
Btw, those buffs for hunter are no joke tho 😁😁👌
And most people here are crying before of the rebalancing of bard/dancer hahaha p.pen should be reduced
as a wizard user, this is consider a racist game....
assassin still sucks 😂
dasurb haha you guys are so greedy when it comes to grinding spots
U r all soft and crying babies. When times it is OP you u ddnt complain too strong. Balancing is good for better competition. U spend because u know its OP and taking advantage of the game. We r d true ROX players the who pioneered playing the game. U dont know the struggle haha
Yah bard / Dancer are everywhere. PVP, PVE, BH, self sustainability. They're like 1 man job. They have all the good perks. They have immunity to fatal also and resu hahaha 🤣
this is not being a crybaby, imo a nerf in job class is as damaging as failing at refine, even more and make people want to quit the game.
ive seen people argue about dancers and bards taking 3 spots or more when afk grinding in new servers, but they don't understand that in late game these jobs are not rlly that strong. not to mention how harder it is to find multiple spots in endgame maps like comodo, umbala, and so on. furthermore, in terms of dmg, shura, gx, suno, even well invested rangers are more than capable to compete and beat them easily. and even that this job still keep getting all the nerfs like straight multiple times.
if you guys complain dat these jobs are too strong in early game, why not buff other class like ranger,etc only and let dancers and bards stay the way it is? then ofc there will be balance. if dancers and bards keep getting nerfed, there wont even be anymore dps dancers and bards, all will become support since their damage cant compete as it always seems to get nerfed. its just upsetting that despite of how much money, crystals, even a lot of time invested in building the character, it won't affect much or even worse ur damage will only get lower since it keeps getting nerfed.
so please try to be considerate to other people at least once rather than being too consumed in ur pov and saying dat all of these people are cry babies.