How To Fix Brown Patch & Large Patch In St Augustine, Zoysia and Tall Fescue with The Lawn Care Nut
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- My St Augustine has been invaded with rhizoctonia which is called Large Patch or Root Rot in St Augustine and Zoysia and is called Brown Patch when it hits cool season grasses like turf type tall fescue.
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Here is the Scotts DiseaseEX on Amazon and it's cheaper than at the store amzn.to/2YrloC2
Lowe’s will price match Amazon.
Like $5 off and I dont have to drive to Home Depot! Thanks Allyn! I usually use liquid azoxystrobin, but I may pick up a bag to see how the granular works since its quicker and easier. Actually, I just did the math and at $15/ bag and Azoxy 2SC at DoMyOwn for $125/ 16 oz thats almost the same cost per app at the high rate (0.77 oz/ 1000 sq ft). Somebody check my math, but I think its really close and just slightly more for the granular at that price (at $20/ bag at Home Depot the liquid is the much cheaper option, but you have buy in with the cost of the bottle and spray equipment if you dont have it).
Them Elephant Ears look good Man! I have never seen them look that good
@@jamespope2407 Thanks bro! I hit them with the FloraGreene 3x per year. They love it. I have to prop them up.
I have St.Augustine grass it has dry patches and some weeds in various sections. I’m in California it’s been about 84 degrees so far. Do you recommend using the same technique on the video? Also I used the amazon link to avoid going to the store , hopefully one bag is enough.
To hear you talk so casually about going into 2020, really makes me miss the time before covid. Made me reminisce a little bit. Thank you allyn. This was extremely helpful. I saw results almost immediately the next day.
This is by far the BEST informational educational lawn care channel hands down.. Thank you!!!
Thanks Allyn for another informative video. Anybody who watches your channel will be empowered to take over their lawn care from the chemical companies. I fired my service last year, and my lawn looks way better since I started watching your channel and doing it myself. Great job.
I'm "down over there" in Ruskin, FL fighting brown patch/root rot in my st aug weekly. Thanks to you, I've seen some success. I'm going to keep trudging along instead of giving up and calling in the "pros." Appreciate the videos my fellow Ex-Chicagoan!
I'm in Tampa and also from Chicago! Bears look good this year! 🐻⬇️
Boy I know that look in the yard! I fight that fungus every single year in my St Aug, and here in Central Texas I have learned that it will show up in May/ Jun whenever we have rain and the grass stays wet overnight. Then it comes back again in Sep/ Oct following rains. This Fall I had good success with mixing in some thiophanate-methyl (Cleary's 3336, etc.), which is a FRAC 1, with my usual treatments of myclobutanil (FRAC 3) and azoxystrobin (FRAC 11). I have tried to avoid doing systemic preventative treatments to avoid "throwing chems", but next year I will treat those 4 months (May, Jun, Sep, Oct) at preventative rates to see if I can keep it away. I may mix in some propiconazole too, but its the same MOA (FRAC 3) as myclobutanil.
Love the videos with solid content and way less filler! Keep them coming. Thanks!
Thanks! I enjoy these too.
That bulletproof strategy 🙌👌👍
The old LCN Chicago/cool season footage always makes me feel nostalgic.
me too!
I usually buy the Scotts Disease Ex for $11 at Walmart. That’s the everyday price there.
That's a super good deal for sure! Get all you can lol
I feel SO much better you have it....
well thanks! 😅
@@Thelawncarenut I left off the "too"
I was wondering what was happening to my back yard grass it started 2 months ago. Backyard was my best grass and turned to the worst. Thanks again for your helpful videos.
You're welcome ! Good news is the St Aug will recover in most cases
How do I know if my brown spots are not caused by chinch bugs or some other bug rather than fungus ?
From my experience, fungus you can tell by the orange ring around the circle. Chinch you look close enough at the dirt by spreading with your fingers you can sometimes see chinch🤷🏼♂️
I think grub damage, turf will pull right out. Disease turf will still feel rooted and wont pull out as easy. Tugg your turf
Another helpful video for the average homeowner who wants to " dominant " his neighbor.
I appreciate having a break from lawn care where I live. You guys it never ends.
That's true - just a little slower now so I can put up some Christmas lights 😂
Try to find liquid Azoxystrobin, you can mix it with Propiconazole and apply them together. Save labor and time. Don't forget to use sticker and some colorant to avoid application overlaps.
I see the grey patch on LCN's upper lip was treated for fungus, too.
It was scalped clean off! 😄
I’m new to this, just bought a house last year. Love the videos, they are very helpful. How do I know or is there a way to tell if the brown spots in my yard is from fungus or lack of water?
Great info. I use the bullet proof strategy in my tttf and it works like a charm.
Love these str8 educational vids. Nice edit!
Not looking forward to my fungal battles next year. Definitely going to be a challenge with a lot to learn.
that's what she said.
😂🥴
We went back to treating our own lawn. The "professionals" made the weeds multiply, almost like they were feeding them. I develooed this in my front yard and had no clue what it was. Thanks for the video. I subscribed!
welcome to the team, buckle up and hide your wallet ha ha!!!!
Do you recommend applying the bioadvanced fungus control immediately after applying the Scott's disease ex? Should I also reapply every week or two until the fungus resolves? Thanks. Appreciate your videos
Same day is fine, then both again in 30 days if no current issues
Thank you for the detailed, educational, information.
Im here now because I put down preventative in the spring and forgot too in late summer and fungus got me.
I bought the Scott's Mini and put out Scott's DiseaseEX for greyspot. I measured out 4lbs (the curative rate per 1000 sq ft) did an edge pass and two straight passes, all gone. I used the curative rate per the bag and it took the entire bag of product to a little over 1200 sq ft. I thought it would have been a little more accurate than that!
Apart from visual recognition of rhizoctonia, have you determined its presence empirically? ...meaning, have you submitted a sample for analysis?
I had fungus in my TTTF and had to throw down some Scott’s Disease Ex at the curative rate. The fungus went away in less than a week!
I've got brown patch in Tampa as of this post. However, it's because I cleaned my mower and lowered it to 1 and didn't catch it. 🤦♂️
Lol... I've done that too many times to count my friend. Ouch!
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No one just gets sick! There's always a reason.
And you know this how>>
Not true I know a woman who has had breast cancer twice and two brain tumors and she eat super healthy and is a professional trainer. Some times people just get sick just like lawns.
80percent is heretity
Great channel! Clear, concise and very informative. Does this teatment work on all Zoysia grass? I have Palisades Zoysia, which I installed last February, and wondered if this treatment is safe for Palisades grass and safe for lawns only a year old. Now that I know large patch disease can stay in the ground for years, explains why my old St. Augustine grass would look like this every year until 2 years ago when it completely died.
Another awesome video 👍
- Love the azoxystrobin. Helped save my grass at the curative rate. Planning to use the preventative rate every 2 months.
- Propoconozol made my lawn appear more brown however. Like a wet brown look. Don't know why that was. Almost as if the fungus had spread faster. If anyone has seen this before or know why, please enlighten me. 😁 I must admit though that my lawn was not yet measured when I used it last, but I thought with the propoconozol you can use as much as you want?
- Planning to mess with some stuff like neen oil, copper, peppermint, etc. But I don't have high hopes for these.
What's nice here in Michigan is i can sit back and take a break from lawn care for a few months. All o need for the next few months is my snowblower.😜
sounds like a party! 😂
@@Thelawncarenut Come on up if you get sick of all that sunshine. Lol 🤣 We got skiing, sledding, snowmobiling, and ice fishing. 👍
Amen! The stache is gone.
gone forever ha ha!
Armada is your best bet for dealing with fungus.
Are we talking air temperatures or soil temperatures? How do you bag your clippings if you don't have a mower that bags?
man, thank you for such great details - I will follow your instruction and apply the Disease Ex ASAP!
We are in Southern California, Corona to be exact. Can we use the same protocol?
Very helpful Allyn esp. the tip about seasonal transitions.
Should I put down fungicide before fertilizer even if I don't have disease? I do have some moss. Should I use fungicide for the moss or moss-X? Thanks
So should we put down the preventative or curative rate in the spring if we had disease in the fall and wasn't able to take care of it this year? Cool season lawn
Preventative rate is good. 🤘
@@Thelawncarenut Thanks
My bet is some lawns have brown patch while others don't because they're watering at night.
Awesome video - answered all my questions! Good on you -
Early Sunday video💪🏼. RIP to the stache...
she gone!
Hey Allen. I really like your lawncare tips. Its helped me out alot over the past couple years. I was wondering if you have any experience with moles? I get my lawn looking great then they distroy it year after year. Ive tried alot of over the counter stuff with no results. Thanks again for all your vids. 👍
Seeing you with your sunglasses on and a pair of what I am assuming are transition lenses on your hat brim made me think of my dad. I'm sure I'll be there one day, too.
Do u need to do this if u aerate and overseed?
A walk around the yard revealed little moths flying away as I walked...I'm warming up the flame thrower.
sounds like fun!
Hey man! How long should I wait before aerating my lawn after fugal treatment? I also need to treat for weeds.
Can this bullet proof method be done in spring.
Here in South Louisiana I notice brown / dead spots
I treated with Bifin xt to kill the sod web worms which could be part of the problem. But I want to treat with your 2 recommend products this spring
I’m in lawn brother. Thank you 🙏🏼
Did this work for you? My lawn looks awful, tried peat moss and did nothing. Thanks.
Very timely. I noticed a few small patches of large patch in my zoysia two weeks ago after a week or so of cool temps. It only appeared in the areas of traffic from the garage to the house. All the other areas with little foot traffic are still deep green and healthy. My guess is the grass is weaker in the traffic areas, and it may spread by our shoes?
I think that is some solid detective work for sure. Time to get some stepping stones!
Make a video on sugar cane mosaic virus killing lawns in fla
there is a site about 17 miles from me in Tierra Verde. Only seems to be hitting in coastal areas.
what if it is spreading rapidly?
What happens if you use too much disease ex?
First time home owner
Been seeing brown patches in my grass that have gotten worse
Initially I thought that it just needed more water (wrong idea) and I’m just embarrassed to show my house. Never knew that overwatering grass was a thing
I hope doing this will help my grass. It’s been stressing me out for the past week
Sling Chems was your college nickname!
When will we be getting another episode of the podcast? Miss hearing you in my earbuds
I'm hoping to get one out next week and will start up again weekly in the spring. I miss doing them!
How soon after this application process would I be able to safely spray down some Milorganite?
Very helpful video Allyn! 🤙🏼
thanks bro 👊
At what point should I throw in the towel to prevent fungus in lawn? It is a challenge for sure.
Never give up! 💪
Striperman ok. Full steam ahead! 👊😎
Thanks for the info!
Have you tried using copper sulfate as a fungicide?
I've not heard of it. Maybe for gardens?
@@Thelawncarenut It's an old school general purpose liquid fungicide. I've halted brown spot progress with it. Fairly affordable to use.
I treated my lawn over 7 days ago with the procedure in this video. I am now ready to apply my Milorganite. The instructions in the video state to apply 1/2 - 3/4 lbs/1000 sq. ft. I'm not sure what to set my Scotts Speedy Green 2000 rotary spreader on. Can you please tell me what setting I need to put my spreader on?
I have a section of St. Augustine that was attacked by large patch and killed it completely. I have looked and at first thought Cinch bug but cannot see any. I don't want to go through this again next year. Can I dig up all the dead grass, apply top soil and apply plugs or sod as here in Southeast Texas it's still growing temperature for the next 6 weeks, more or less. The dead area is approx 3ft sq. I applied fungus control and insecticide to other areas of the grass and they are still green. There was a brutal drought this summer and despite lack of water my grass has maintained decent health. But not much rain again so I need to be sure to water
How long should I wait to do a second treatment?
Allyn I have TTTF in NC. It’s been in the 90’s. The only place I seem to have brown patch is where I placed my sprinklers. Could this be something other than brown patch?
Keep an eye on Amazon. I’ve seen prices drop as low was $11 with free shipping.
I picked some up at a fire sale they had in the spring and it was around that price.
Good information
Hi Sir. I moved to new constructive house (Loxahatchee) with new sods planted in November. Brown patches are everywhere. Can I apply the product in January? Thanks.
This is how we’re getting the sod in new construction homes in our neighborhood 🤦🏻♂️
How long does it take to see the results?
I feel really bad all my neighbors have green grass except me. There is a yard across the street from me the grass was bad looking. People came out to cut the grass and raked all the dead grass from the yard and now the grass is green and look far better than my grass. I put fertilizer down at my neighbor's request. The fertilizer had some nitrogen in it. Since fertilizing I see a little progress with grass growing but the grass is not St.Augustine grass coming in but it is not crab grass either .The grass coming in is that grass you need to pull out. Please help!!
Thanks
Yet another informative video. Would you say to cut the affected lawn a tad lower, say, 3" and bag it, so the diseases grass does not fall back into lawn?
My grass is starting to look like a dirt patch. Do I plant new grass?
Looking for suggestions on large patch areas in my Zeon Zoysia lawn. For the past 2 years it was beautiful
What causes the drought looking spots to keep reappearing in the same spots year after year. I notice it happening in the same key location in my all of my neighbors yards as well
THANKS!
I just get a square point shovel, cut out the grass and replace it with sod..lol
I live in Texas I have noticed brown patches in my yard . How do I know if they are sod web worms , Gurb worms or a fungus? if it is a fungus , when should I start treating the area?
sod webworm is pretty bad right now - this is how you ID those th-cam.com/video/pFB2YuPBNMc/w-d-xo.html
Always helpful. Thanks
I know nothing about grass other than cutting and edging my lawn
After the winter season my grass never returned back to normal looking green and plush. Since the drought my grass have spots of dead/ brown patches . What should I do for my St.Augustine grass to come back?
Can you get this Disease in new establish sod?
I'm waiting for my new backyard. Time for a new mower👍🏼
its always a good time for a new mower! 🤘
@@Thelawncarenut yeah and a whole lot of green county ferts an Milo 👍🏼
Can it be cured if it’s everywhere?
I was looking for st Augustine grass specific
Nice video man, I’ve used the Scotts fungicide prevention, not too bad stuff.
thanks bro!
After this treatment when can I fertilize and seed?
Isn’t a bulletproof strategy a preventative rotation all growing season long?
I typically recommend apps heading into seasonal transitions. Things vary based on grass type and your lawn's history and where you live too. If I had KBG I'd only be concerned with dollar spot, for example, and probably not much else so in that case only a spring app would be needed.
Can you use to much Scotts Disease? Is more better. Thanks
Great informative video. Do you water as usual after the treatments?
Edit: got the answer from the video. Thanks again.
You say preventative in February but can I treat vs prevent in February? I’m going to lay down seed and top soil to help bring back my lawn??? I live in Southern California and have fescue.
Do you thatch out dead grass before you treat?
Ever try the Spectracide Immunox Fungus control?
If I'm going to utilize the BioAdvanced Liquid Fungide on my lawn, should I first trim my grass then proceed with applying the liquid treatment for the fungus? I have about 1,035 sq ft of my lawn. Thank you for your help.
My St. Augustine developed this just a few weeks ago and it’s slowly spreading. I am in SoCal, and night temps are 45-60 degrees and about 70 degrees during the day. Should I still throw down some milo after the disease control ? Even if it’s colder temps? Bit confused as I know nitrogen is good during growing season?
First, your videos are great - thanks you. However, I'm confused about this one. I was checking out your blog on your website and I feel like your post on 'Should you treat for winter fungus' says you shouldn't put down any treatment because it stunts the growth of the lawn as well as the fungus and therefore delays the new growth. The video above seems to be in contrast to that. Am I just reading something wrong? Can you clarify which is correct? Thanks
This video is 3 years old - and I have now learned not to treat the lawn in winter for the reasons I stated in the blog post. Doing winter applications does nothing to stop the fungus that the cold won't do for you but it stunts the growth of the lawn so it can't repair itself.
I’m in Raleigh day/nights are 50s/30s some 60s. Large Patch in Zeon Zoysia is out in of control. Lawn is dormant for the most part I treated earlier October/November but did not work. Walmart had sale on Disease X Should I throw her down now a pray. I’m scalping and sanding next April. WHAT DO I DO thanks.