um, why the heck are you saying that archery skills on WF won't work on GOD DH? The main damage is coming from the Hungering arrow which is clearly an archery skill.
@@CorwinDTM D3 skills are grouped into 6 smaller sub groups. Hungering Arrow is under "Primary" skills. "Archery" skills consists of Strafe, Multishot, Cluster Arrow and Rain of Vengeance.
I can say that there is more to the Demon Hunter's ethereals. They are not etched in stone as far as the affixes that come on them. I got the crossbow that has flat damage along with damage percent and other good affixes that if I got it in season 24 as is or with higher rolls on the right stats and maybe cooldown reduction instead of one of the affixes that is not needed, forgot which one though. I do believe that I would be able to clear a lot higher tier GR than I can live non season.
"Witch doctors aren't too bad. They're pretty balanced..." and nobody will ever invite one to a group this season whether they nerf that necro scythe or not.
Something not mentioned - when you salvage, you get varied amounts of DBs, VCs, FSs, and greater rift keystones (up to 4 that I've seen). Got to P~500ish with a GoD DH and Doomslinger; got a perfect Dawn roll (65% vengenance CDR) on it with good stats. Couldn't pass it up. In game, they look *great*, the ground effect is like the primal but is that turquoise/teal green from deaths breaths, and the sound when they drop is the old Horadric cube. I though those were a nice touch.
Some of these weapons are amazing, the others feel like they were designed by people who don't play or understand the game builds. It's like chalk and cheese, it's odd.
Ethereals roll a powerful set of affixes, a random Class Weapon Legendary Power and a random Class Passive Power. Its main goal is to replace stat sticks with sticks that serve a perpouse. They also assist a player who is transitioning into ancient to primal ( its in the half way in terms of strenght) I aint sure if there will be primal etherials... Some of the stats rolled can replace other items in a build... It mainly replaces the craftable amulets that roll affixes.
I vividly remember from Diablo II that Ethereal items cannot be repaired, contrary to you mentioning they cannot lose durability inherently. That was the whole point of them; they are more powerful versions of normal items, which you cannot use forever unless you're willing to invest into making them indestructible or gain x amount of durability every x seconds. So the mod "Ignores durability loss" would be highly sought after.
@@trevorfenlon4920 a) the stats arent random, only the legendary power and passives are b) the point was every class has 2 1-h and 1 2-h weapon. Crusader did not.
I only solo, so don't care about rats.... so I hope they keep soul harvest as is. But honestly I think this will just be more frustrating than anything. I mean imagine not being able to optimally play the build you want because you keep getting these weapons with the wrong thing. You want ambo's pride, but get the siesmic slam or others instead all the time. I don't know.. I get that rng is a HUGE part of the game, but too much isn't fun. Maybe thats because I'm just a casual player? I usually get to about 1200-1300 paragon and burn out, but even still, I want to play as optimally as I can. We'll see.
Been finding the same thing with my Barb. Drops were few and far between. Now throw ethereal into the game. I guess it is the carot on the string trick.
I loved this season - I made every class, tried new builds and it was a lot of fun collecting all of the weapons and eventually getting ones with the right powers so I could solo-blast higher than I ever had. I'm going to look at solo pushing builds before I decide how many classes to make this season.
Can we talk about Whirl Rend barbs and the grandfather. Triple rend damage at 10k %. The grandfather adds 100% damage then another 200% to all barb skills. Don't forget that whirl rend barbs don't currently have weapons that buff damage output.. until now. This will be new meta Credit is mine
Always great content. Can't wait to see your gameplay with them. For me... can't wait to see some WD play with those weapons in place of voo's juicer or soul harvest.
I like the concept, but hard to shake the feeling that in every season there is a sales excecutive, that never played the game studying necro dlc sale graphs, that leaves the same memo for the devs. "Don't forget to buff Necro, no matter what!"
If you think it was buffed, necro was nerfed hard this season. Bone spear set went from 70,000% increased damage to 18,000%. And none of the other necro sets got buffed either, which they badly need a rework. And Rathmas got nerfed badly past season also.
@@Ninthalias1 necro saw nerfs but they are still top tier which should tell you how broken they are. hell even skele mage that was nerfed can still dps like crazy.
@@B22_2-87IN do you do ptr? I have no idea how much the nerfs affected the character. But still, any set other than masquerade and MAYBE Rathma and pestilence can barely do a 115. And Rathma and masquerade got nerfed. And pestilence can't go much higher than 115 in the best of circumstances. WD might be seeing bad times, along with DH and maybe monk, but they are still as powerful as those necro sets. I agree, masquerade saw real power, and needed nerfed, but necro took a hit this season, and won't be the most powerful class this season.
@@Ninthalias1 Well it was a text on a vid where raxx praised the necro etheral as godlike, and it was a funny (intended) comment on that and a known meme. Anyway i know Masq got nerfed(balanced?). After two season where it hit 150 solo naturally it will be hit, but is that a bad thing? And Rathma got changed on ptr then it got balanced on ptr, so saying it was nerfed is maybe a bit of a stretch. Afterall before the change nobody really used the set since the loD version were far superior. Now atleast it is a sBut yeah i think they went overboard with masq. on ptr necro is on par with other "balanced" classes and is around 125-130 like WD barb crusader. And that is with the Ethereal. So they probably need to tweak it a bit up, but that is what ptr is for.
@@vesoha I can agree with that. The ethereals are OP, but I can't imagine that changes it A LOT. Masquerade getting a 20 gr nerf is insane tho. And if you ask me, rathma still isn't viable. Yes, masquerade needed a nerf, I agree, but it is the only necro set that can compete.
@Raxxanterax, It should be 'gimmershred' (d2) not grimmershred (typo in d3 version). Small error but maybe it would be nice if you could report it. Also, your memory is correct, it is "astreon" not "asteron" :)
I appreciate the video. I would have loved to see how the weapons actually looked so I can decide if I want to search for all 21 transmogs during the season.
Great video however I was also hoping you would show what they looked like on the characters so I could decide if I wanted to do the Feat of Strength. I especially wanted to see what the grandfather looked like on a character.
As far as I know they look like garbage whites or other legendaries but with a blueish glow... Hopefully that's just a ptr thing and in live things like Bartucs and Occulus look like their icons at least...
'The Redeemer' needs an overhaul to synergize with Thorn builds, change: '20% Holy Damage' to '50% Physical damage', '100% damage' to '200' thorns', 'Level requirement' to '50% damage reduction when blocking an attack lasting 8 seconds', and the 'Increase gold and health pick-up radius by 2 yards' substitute by 'All thorn and physical skills last 3 more seconds, and deal 300% more damage'
Actually liked having the legend spike as a WD weapon because of the higher base attack speed. Shame decay spells were relegated to the spear. In contrast, the Wizard Spike with its high base attack speed and stacking damage multiplier makes explosive blast super nice again. Managed a rank two Tal Rasha clear with an explosive blast build. I believe swapping to Frozen Orb would yield tremendous results. All said and done, the amount of build diversity this generates is fantastic.
I liked Buriza when GOD came out a lot, the Rift Guardian was constantly frozen essentially, so I was able to do my thing without worrying about them that much.
If I remember correctly, aetherical items in Diablo 2 couldn't be repaired, so when their durability dropped to zero, they were lost... that's why they have the "indestructable" bonus, which was a must have roll on (vanilla) d2 aetherics.
They are pretty good, played with them for a few hours yesterday. The annoying part is how many important stats there are on them, so will be hard getting the perfect drop. And they can roll offhand abilities aswell, which could be good for some classes, but not really for WD.
Asterons (new cdr slot) on a LoN Crusader with passive of Blade of Prophecy... it will be able to use frevor passive another 15% cdr ( you dont need furnace slot anymore) will result in mental fast solo 120 -130 Gr clears and fucking heaps of paragon farm- You can cube Akkhans Addendum, wear Asterons and Frydehrs Wrath and the only thing that stopped that build form insanely melting was the cdr roll on the shield which was very hard to get perfectly rolled combined with max condemn damage. I will go Crusader Necro, this way you can also roll strengths primals and ancients like leorics crown nemesis bracers etc for necro to help with some armor through the strength rolls.
I think I'm more worried. I feel like they make one weapon/"thing" overpowered and that becomes the meta. I was hoping to maybe mix up the way the game is played instead of adding/changing items, Like season 24 seems like it's just going to be having a more powerful weapon. It doesn't do anything to formula that will change the things I was already doing in season 23. I believe season 24 will be just be Rat runs/Grinding out Paragons for months. Followed by just key hunting for a good rift to clear. If I had to pick something to get excited about is the Inna's set, Honestly it looks pretty interesting so I will be coming back for a at least the first month playing extremely casual just to experience the changes first hand.
Ive been making barbarian and am paragon lvl 211 right now. I'm averaging 100 million with my hammer of the ancients, and over a billion damage with double damage and my berserker rage
The grandfather's 200% bonus seems like a bigger deal than soul harvest. If necros had a worthwhile offhand that could be a different story, but they don't. It also seems like a big deal that monk can get a two handed weapon legendary on a one hander.
It seems incredibly silly to me that half of these weapons have Ignore Durability Loss. Even if they weren't all indestructible, we JUST got emanating spalders of Zakara if you're worried about weapon durability, and you have to die quite a few times in a GR for your weapons to break anyways. I'm really hoping they replace those with something better.
Same. It's like rolling a stat "weapon" on the weapon. Duh. I notice some secondary affixes have been promoted to primary, which doesn't make much sense either. At first I didn't get why a bow would have strength or a staff all res, but I figure the devs are forcing some extra toughness on us, to compensate for the power creep coming, so these are fine by me.
By the time zakara spauldrons become useful, the gr is probably over anyway (you're out of time). I'd say the shoulders that make teleporting uninterruptible by damage would be better, but it can still be interrupted with those on, so shoulders on follower are almost useless.
They need to add Zod recipe to cube that can only be used once per season. That way we can still use our favorite ethereal from a season and slowly accumulate them but still have incentive to play seasons (find good eth's to save)
Maybe it's just cuz I'm a solo player but black hand seems like far and away the best Necro weapon. 100% Crispin's uptime without relying on things like bone armor dislocation or procs from passives or zeis while constantly cc'ing everything hard pretty seems good to me.
You're looking at the gear for single purpose, not for sets or builds specifically.. for instance, freezing alone on monk isn't that great... But those juicy buffs are making it worth while for a cc support monk when with wizard or Necro which are rly strong during our current season. These items are just enough to make the meta shift due to certain things being too squishy or just not enough dps factor, it's enough to make old builds come back. For instance... That other bow would be excellent for multishot. Js.. and with the speedfarming ability ? That's insane. It's gonna be great for control and quick clears.
3:56 Your concept of Ethereal items isn't quite right. In D2, Ethereal items had higher base damage/defense (1.5X the normal amount) of the same item "normal" type.... but ethereal items could not be REPAIRED. So, the best melee weapons tended to be runeworded items that contained a Zod rune (which made them indestructible), or runewords that granted the indestructible affix which were put inot ethereal bases for crazy base damage. Breath of the Dying is a good example of that. Similar idea for armors, though the armor stat wasn't quite as useful in D2. Casters liked ethereal items for cosmetic flair, because they didn't melee with their wands/sceptres they didn't really have to worry about them breaking. Really cool to see the ethereal item idea come to D3, should be a fun season.
I'm a bit bummed in the large difference with usability between classes for the ethereals, but I'm glad they made it easier to collect them all. I would like to unlock the transmogrify reward for them but i didn't want to play every class to do it. I don't even own the necro DLC.
I for one cannot believe that there are people still playing D3. From release on thru when I stopped playing around S7, that was *the* most incompetent developers I’ve ever seen in my decades of gaming.
As mage you really want "The Oculus" one handed weapon with the deathwish legendary effect. "Mang Sons Lesson" is complete crap here because you will lose any arcane power on crit and the build gets unplayable. So "The Oculus" is the weapon you want to go for! So you dont need arcane power on crit on your firebird offhand and u can use cooldown reduction or +dmg to elites on your offhand. The 2-handed weapon is USELESS here. Look at the leaderboards Mr. Raxxanterax!!
I know everyone says this but, They should make this permanent. First of all, I find myself stalling out once I don't have anything to strive for. GR 150 is tough but you can only do so much and eventually you want Primal Ancient Legendary equipment but finding one for your character build is a bit like the Lottery. If they chose to keep Ethereal Weapons then I would recommend making it like Primals where you need to clear a GR at like say 100 or better that way you don't get too OP right from the start. They should also limit what passives they possess down to five or six that are most commonly used for certain builds. The people who do the build videos and the PTR always say what passives work best so they don't exactly have to guess given that most of the research is done already. Having a weapon that boosts Barbarian or Demon Hunter would push things forward for many people and give us a better chance of reaching goals. Any thoughts?
Just got back in the game today, been playing for about seven hours and at lvl 30 I find one of those hold X to reval what the ? Is. And it was Sould Harvest, my damage went from 460 to an astronomical 10,500 damage. Haven't played in a while and after playing the Diablo 2 demo on Xbox, that bug bit me. So I got a copy. Wasn't even going to start with seasons, and only do the normal, thank goodness I checked on TH-cam what I might have missed.
This makes me think, it would be really nice to be able to 'transplant' legendary effects between weapons (2hands to 1 hands mainly) to spice things a bit.
It's been awhile since I last touched Diablo 2, but I thought ethereal weapons had higher damage than non-ethereal weapons, had durability, but couldn't be repaired. The only way around it was to use javelins which could self-replenish, so as long as you didn't use all the charges, they'd recharge up to max over time or use a Zod rune...which were rare as all get out. Also, 13% movement speed on the Windforce isn't great and all, but it's not wasted. You just take the paragon points out of movement and put them into dexterity or vitality. You talk about the CC effects on Windforce and Buriza being bad, all the while having fear on that EF. I know the % chance isn't as high, but it's there. Plus, or minus...they really toned down the KB and freeze effects on that WF and Buriza, respectively (from the Diablo 2 versions). 4.5% chance to freeze vs 12.9% chance to fear on your EF...really need to stop complaining about CC effects as long as you've got that EF equipped. 100% chance to aoe fear in place for 7 seconds is ok, but 4.5% chance to freeze isn't. gotcha...I guess the reliability of the aoe fear, and knowing it's going to get dropped is what's good here, but you've spent the last 16 or so minutes of the video claiming CC is bad...while using an EF, but whatever.
I think this looks cool, but when you think about it, the weapons are not so different one from another. If the secondary orange passives (the ones that buff a skill) are random, then you'll get many useless ethereal weapons. Some are just OP and some are pretty damm bad. I think the idea is great but I was expecting other items, like armor items, and more variety between them. Probably they'll introduce more of these items in next season and so on, depending on how this goes. It's the new way of increasing players power after augmenting and primals. I'm sure it'll be fun to play for a few days only. But gotta give credit to Blizzard for trying.
Hey raxx, what class do you think will benefit the most from ethereals barring any changes post PTR, and alternatively what class do you think gains the most build versatility from this? Thanks!
I would have to cube blade of the tribes to use the barb ethereal, Be interesting to see if it increases or decreases damage compared to the usual weapon cube options for leapquake barb.
Ethereal weapons couldn't be repaired in D2. So unless they were a runeword item that had a runeword that granted indestructable as part of its stats, you would always lose the item to durability loss. Or if you socketed them with the Zod rune.
I don´t know why they spelled Grimmershred wrong. Maybe they will fix it. Also ethereal item can lose durability, you are just not able to repair them.
lucky you. i got a fucking necro ethereal at like clvl 24 for my bloody DH - totally fucking useless. After levelling 8 characters for s24 and getting all 8 to clvl 70, I ONLY got 1 fucking ethereal during all of the levelling processes... Shitty crappy seasonal theme. Glad I'm doing with my conquests, seasonal journey, have found all 21 ethereals using the puzzle ring/vault cheese method and I can quit this shitty season.
Aah, so Ethereals are buffed legendaries! Now they make sense and not underwhelming at all :) Basically you use them INSTEAD of like a Dawn, get Dawn's effect AND get a bunch of awesome stat bonuses. Got it! Thanks, Raxx! :) P.s. I would love some DH Ethereals buffs tho. A bit weak I think.
Hey Man love your content. Considering the launch date of D2R when do you think this new season will start? I'm hoping late July or early August to get people excited for the new release... What do you think? I'm gonna become a father in September so I would like to enjoy some of my last diablo 3 for a while. :) cheers keep up the good work
definitely going to grind for all just to say and show I did, plus D2 hype, but the transmogs are kinda eh. as far as their powers, im gonna need a lot of time to decide my class this season. I have played a lot of necro, but oooh the soul harvest
Idk if rax has cracked into a better, more effective build yet, but early feedback I’ve seen from other players trying it seems to be underwhelming. Part of an issue with it being your toughness is tied to having a bunch of allies up, but to get all allies up you need to be in combat for a bit to produce them. So people are having trouble staying alive in the time between starting an engagement and having all allies up
@@Jordan-hh8wo Yeah, I basically have the same issue with it that I had a certain rendition of Vyr's at one point. Get your buffs by being in combat, but being in combat kills you before you can buff. Terrible design in a game like this.
Might be barb this season! Grandfather + hota affix on iT seems like a fooking Huge buff maybe eben possible as elite speed killer in 4man speeds ? Like 105-115s? But if innas set is going to buff the shit out of it again, then ill go monk , last time played monk Was like as a sup monk in season 17 or so Wizard seems also very interesting Might do a barb as dd for high speeds when its possible, monk for solo push and Wizard for high 4 man push if He will be still there !
I just got a DOOM with STRAFE but it gains strafe and the PASSIVE rolled ABOVE ? i saw 0 for 200 of this so 1 for 200 You think I found a glitch ? strange stuff
I doubt anything made for D3 will have any relation to d4. With the ethereals it feels more like "this will be the last seasn, enjoy some weapons, that's our parting gift"
@@mlogli5638 Hmm probably with the ethereals but they are made way to simple. I would not like to have items like that in d4. What d4 realy needs is a great skilltree. In my opinion it is the wrong idea to have people builds based on items as much as it is common in d3. In POE you can have a build based on just one legendary item. There is no need for sets. And d3 is still setiablo. As long d3 stays this way, i don't know how they would be able to test stuff for d4 this way. Do you believe, they will be another setiablo in d4?
@@fenfire3824 Well they said sets wont matter that much in d4 and we wont get crazy numbers like the shadow set for dh that makes you do 75k % more dmg so at least we got that ... but who knows what blizzard changes till release :D But the reason i think they are trying stuff for other games in d3 is they didnt really change a whole lot about d3 in the last 5-6 years and this is the first major thing since the mercenary patch with all equipment slots. I just hope they take all the good things from d3 and make d4 a great game but looking at blizzards last releases i kinda doubt it :/
@@mlogli5638 yh guess we will know better later. I think D2 Remake will be great. But of course, d4 will doing things differently than d2. My biggest conceirn is, that d2 will just be so much better than d4, that there is no need to play d4. What i realy disliked about d3 was its realy realy weak story. It is better made than the d2 story, thats for sure. But it was already not good enough for the time it was released and in my opinion storytelling in hack n slays can be muuuuuch better. And not just by presenting some few cinematics here and there. If d4 will not have a great story with a great story telling, it will "just" be like all the other hack n slays. In the end the one game wins the throne, which has the better gameplay mechanics and the better character progression. POE is already much better than d3 but the only reasons i think why poe is not yet that well known like diablo is 1. Advertising (It wasnt even available on steam for years) 2. Bad Graphics and cluncky animations and not so fluid looking skills 3. difficult wealth system for most of the people And if you start poe now as a beginner, the game i completely overwhelming. So its biggest strength is also in a way its biggest weakness. Your brain cannot keep up with all these tons of new content. There is soooooo much you have to learn. Just imagine if POE2 will get just one the following features: 1. available on steam and epic right from the start 2. Great graphics and animations 3. A more forgiving wealth system 4. Realy good tutorials and instructions on each features, addons, characterbuilding etc build directly into the game No other hack n slay would have a chance. Not even arc (guess it will become pay 2 win anyway so guess it will die in eu and us pretty fast)
On top of what's already mentioned, why bring items from D2 that are already in D3 in their D3 form and also why bring only weapon items instead of multiple types? Answer to the first is probably deeper nostalgia value (not good for some D3 items in comparison; especially in power translation) and to the second is that Blizz might provide more D2 etherial item types in the future Seasons.
Disagree on your Wizard rating. The staff is the worst since you give up your offhand and give up a legendary/set item spot. The 300% damage does not make up for it.
I wish DH could have shined this season by having quiver legendaries on the weapons. Impale with two 1H would be very interesting. But no. Soul harvester for Necro is just OMEGA bonkers.
Yes, it's the same effect as a primal drop except the beam is light blue/turquoise. They also have a new icon in the mini-map and drop with the Horadric Cube inventory noise from Diablo 2.
Was keen on farming all items for the transmogs but if they’re as underwhelming as people say, I’m probably going to skip. No time to grind paragon day and night so whats the point
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um, why the heck are you saying that archery skills on WF won't work on GOD DH? The main damage is coming from the Hungering arrow which is clearly an archery skill.
@@CorwinDTM D3 skills are grouped into 6 smaller sub groups. Hungering Arrow is under "Primary" skills. "Archery" skills consists of Strafe, Multishot, Cluster Arrow and Rain of Vengeance.
I can say that there is more to the Demon Hunter's ethereals. They are not etched in stone as far as the affixes that come on them. I got the crossbow that has flat damage along with damage percent and other good affixes that if I got it in season 24 as is or with higher rolls on the right stats and maybe cooldown reduction instead of one of the affixes that is not needed, forgot which one though. I do believe that I would be able to clear a lot higher tier GR than I can live non season.
Not sure but this video is food for thought. I’m a bit disappointed re the DH choices. Still it’s a fun concept to try out.
Honestly I am not that excited by this season theme and may or may not play it which will be the first one in ages that I haven't played.
"Witch doctors aren't too bad. They're pretty balanced..." and nobody will ever invite one to a group this season whether they nerf that necro scythe or not.
Something not mentioned - when you salvage, you get varied amounts of DBs, VCs, FSs, and greater rift keystones (up to 4 that I've seen). Got to P~500ish with a GoD DH and Doomslinger; got a perfect Dawn roll (65% vengenance CDR) on it with good stats. Couldn't pass it up.
In game, they look *great*, the ground effect is like the primal but is that turquoise/teal green from deaths breaths, and the sound when they drop is the old Horadric cube. I though those were a nice touch.
Some of these weapons are amazing, the others feel like they were designed by people who don't play or understand the game builds. It's like chalk and cheese, it's odd.
I didn't realize all the ethereal items had the d2 models that's awesome. Side note, God damn I can't wait until 9/23!
Ethereals roll a powerful set of affixes, a random Class Weapon Legendary Power and a random Class Passive Power.
Its main goal is to replace stat sticks with sticks that serve a perpouse.
They also assist a player who is transitioning into ancient to primal ( its in the half way in terms of strenght)
I aint sure if there will be primal etherials...
Some of the stats rolled can replace other items in a build... It mainly replaces the craftable amulets that roll affixes.
I vividly remember from Diablo II that Ethereal items cannot be repaired, contrary to you mentioning they cannot lose durability inherently. That was the whole point of them; they are more powerful versions of normal items, which you cannot use forever unless you're willing to invest into making them indestructible or gain x amount of durability every x seconds. So the mod "Ignores durability loss" would be highly sought after.
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I believe one of the DH items could have insane trap damage. Nobody uses traps in Diablo 3.
The Shadow set was left out of the season.
The power we see nowadays didn't exist when traps were useful. So it's been a long time.
yup and I won't forgive Blizzard for not giving impale an ethereal. Just plain laziness on their part and game dev stupidity.
"give me a thousand +movement speed" lol
Kinda sad that the Crusader got the shaft here, also weird they didn't get a 2h weapon option..
They did not, crusader has 3 options to pick. The stats are completly random
@@trevorfenlon4920 a) the stats arent random, only the legendary power and passives are b) the point was every class has 2 1-h and 1 2-h weapon. Crusader did not.
try playing s6 impale...we got way more shafted any any other player in the game. BY FAR.
I only solo, so don't care about rats.... so I hope they keep soul harvest as is.
But honestly I think this will just be more frustrating than anything. I mean imagine not being able to optimally play the build you want because you keep getting these weapons with the wrong thing. You want ambo's pride, but get the siesmic slam or others instead all the time.
I don't know.. I get that rng is a HUGE part of the game, but too much isn't fun. Maybe thats because I'm just a casual player? I usually get to about 1200-1300 paragon and burn out, but even still, I want to play as optimally as I can. We'll see.
you get these because they are tweaked to have better chance to drop based on popularity
Been finding the same thing with my Barb. Drops were few and far between. Now throw ethereal into the game. I guess it is the carot on the string trick.
I loved this season - I made every class, tried new builds and it was a lot of fun collecting all of the weapons and eventually getting ones with the right powers so I could solo-blast higher than I ever had. I'm going to look at solo pushing builds before I decide how many classes to make this season.
Can we talk about Whirl Rend barbs and the grandfather. Triple rend damage at 10k %. The grandfather adds 100% damage then another 200% to all barb skills. Don't forget that whirl rend barbs don't currently have weapons that buff damage output.. until now.
This will be new meta
Credit is mine
Asteron's was indeed called Astreon's in D2. Also Grimmershred was Gimmershred :)
so they moved an "r" from one weapon to the other :D
Always great content. Can't wait to see your gameplay with them. For me... can't wait to see some WD play with those weapons in place of voo's juicer or soul harvest.
I like the concept, but hard to shake the feeling that in every season there is a sales excecutive, that never played the game studying necro dlc sale graphs, that leaves the same memo for the devs. "Don't forget to buff Necro, no matter what!"
If you think it was buffed, necro was nerfed hard this season. Bone spear set went from 70,000% increased damage to 18,000%. And none of the other necro sets got buffed either, which they badly need a rework. And Rathmas got nerfed badly past season also.
@@Ninthalias1 necro saw nerfs but they are still top tier which should tell you how broken they are. hell even skele mage that was nerfed can still dps like crazy.
@@B22_2-87IN do you do ptr? I have no idea how much the nerfs affected the character. But still, any set other than masquerade and MAYBE Rathma and pestilence can barely do a 115. And Rathma and masquerade got nerfed. And pestilence can't go much higher than 115 in the best of circumstances. WD might be seeing bad times, along with DH and maybe monk, but they are still as powerful as those necro sets. I agree, masquerade saw real power, and needed nerfed, but necro took a hit this season, and won't be the most powerful class this season.
@@Ninthalias1 Well it was a text on a vid where raxx praised the necro etheral as godlike, and it was a funny (intended) comment on that and a known meme. Anyway i know Masq got nerfed(balanced?). After two season where it hit 150 solo naturally it will be hit, but is that a bad thing? And Rathma got changed on ptr then it got balanced on ptr, so saying it was nerfed is maybe a bit of a stretch. Afterall before the change nobody really used the set since the loD version
were far superior. Now atleast it is a sBut yeah i think they went overboard with masq. on ptr necro is on par with other "balanced" classes and is around 125-130 like WD barb crusader. And that is with the Ethereal. So they probably need to tweak it a bit up, but that is what ptr is for.
@@vesoha I can agree with that. The ethereals are OP, but I can't imagine that changes it A LOT. Masquerade getting a 20 gr nerf is insane tho. And if you ask me, rathma still isn't viable. Yes, masquerade needed a nerf, I agree, but it is the only necro set that can compete.
Brutal ethereal Greatsword of Repair x2 for Occulus rings(i mean the bugged soj) that were occulus weapon stats on rings.
@Raxxanterax, It should be 'gimmershred' (d2) not grimmershred (typo in d3 version). Small error but maybe it would be nice if you could report it. Also, your memory is correct, it is "astreon" not "asteron" :)
I appreciate the video. I would have loved to see how the weapons actually looked so I can decide if I want to search for all 21 transmogs during the season.
Basicly what you all ready have with a little change and a cyan/greeny glow. I wont be farming them sadly not as epic as i was hoping.
Great video however I was also hoping you would show what they looked like on the characters so I could decide if I wanted to do the Feat of Strength. I especially wanted to see what the grandfather looked like on a character.
As far as I know they look like garbage whites or other legendaries but with a blueish glow... Hopefully that's just a ptr thing and in live things like Bartucs and Occulus look like their icons at least...
Really hoping for a seasonal repeat or crossover that brings these back sometime
You are in luck my friend
That's today bud, hope you get the notification
@@mattb6646 You're a real one
@@SGTSkylor have fun man lol
I like how the itemization even resembles D2, with just...a LOT of things on the item (and things like +Stats..that's a very nice touch).
'The Redeemer' needs an overhaul to synergize with Thorn builds, change: '20% Holy Damage' to '50% Physical damage', '100% damage' to '200' thorns', 'Level requirement' to '50% damage reduction when blocking an attack lasting 8 seconds', and the 'Increase gold and health pick-up radius by 2 yards' substitute by 'All thorn and physical skills last 3 more seconds, and deal 300% more damage'
Grabbing a snack, and a cup of coffee, and leans back in the chair.
I killed the Butcher as a Wizard (story, not adventure) and it dropped the Mang Song's Lesson!
hey Raxx - I’m hyped for S32 Ethereal Weapons on 7/12/24! Good luck at the D4 Spiritborn reveal!
Actually liked having the legend spike as a WD weapon because of the higher base attack speed. Shame decay spells were relegated to the spear. In contrast, the Wizard Spike with its high base attack speed and stacking damage multiplier makes explosive blast super nice again. Managed a rank two Tal Rasha clear with an explosive blast build. I believe swapping to Frozen Orb would yield tremendous results. All said and done, the amount of build diversity this generates is fantastic.
GRIMMERSHRED WERE AMAZING THROWING AXES IN DIABLO 2.... FUCKING HYPED TO SEE THEM BACK!!!!
It was DEFINATELY Astreon's. This is a typo.
I liked Buriza when GOD came out a lot, the Rift Guardian was constantly frozen essentially, so I was able to do my thing without worrying about them that much.
If I remember correctly, aetherical items in Diablo 2 couldn't be repaired, so when their durability dropped to zero, they were lost... that's why they have the "indestructable" bonus, which was a must have roll on (vanilla) d2 aetherics.
You mean eth items? Couldn't be repaired but had 50% base dmg.
Hyped to try Ethereal Witch Doctor weapons. They look okay not great not bad. Nice video Raxx.
They are pretty good, played with them for a few hours yesterday. The annoying part is how many important stats there are on them, so will be hard getting the perfect drop. And they can roll offhand abilities aswell, which could be good for some classes, but not really for WD.
@@vesoha Thanks for the details.
Asterons (new cdr slot) on a LoN Crusader with passive of Blade of Prophecy... it will be able to use frevor passive another 15% cdr ( you dont need furnace slot anymore) will result in mental fast solo 120 -130 Gr clears and fucking heaps of paragon farm-
You can cube Akkhans Addendum, wear Asterons and Frydehrs Wrath and the only thing that stopped that build form insanely melting was the cdr roll on the shield which was very hard to get perfectly rolled combined with max condemn damage.
I will go Crusader Necro, this way you can also roll strengths primals and ancients like leorics crown nemesis bracers etc for necro to help with some armor through the strength rolls.
I think I'm more worried. I feel like they make one weapon/"thing" overpowered and that becomes the meta. I was hoping to maybe mix up the way the game is played instead of adding/changing items, Like season 24 seems like it's just going to be having a more powerful weapon. It doesn't do anything to formula that will change the things I was already doing in season 23. I believe season 24 will be just be Rat runs/Grinding out Paragons for months. Followed by just key hunting for a good rift to clear. If I had to pick something to get excited about is the Inna's set, Honestly it looks pretty interesting so I will be coming back for a at least the first month playing extremely casual just to experience the changes first hand.
no shit what do you expect? unless they fundamentally break and redo paragon its LITERALLY always gonna be rats,
Ive been making barbarian and am paragon lvl 211 right now. I'm averaging 100 million with my hammer of the ancients, and over a billion damage with double damage and my berserker rage
wow nice pieces !! i start ptr yesterday using my monk, I found everything, but still no ethereal. Today I try again.
The grandfather's 200% bonus seems like a bigger deal than soul harvest. If necros had a worthwhile offhand that could be a different story, but they don't. It also seems like a big deal that monk can get a two handed weapon legendary on a one hander.
It seems incredibly silly to me that half of these weapons have Ignore Durability Loss. Even if they weren't all indestructible, we JUST got emanating spalders of Zakara if you're worried about weapon durability, and you have to die quite a few times in a GR for your weapons to break anyways. I'm really hoping they replace those with something better.
Same. It's like rolling a stat "weapon" on the weapon. Duh. I notice some secondary affixes have been promoted to primary, which doesn't make much sense either. At first I didn't get why a bow would have strength or a staff all res, but I figure the devs are forcing some extra toughness on us, to compensate for the power creep coming, so these are fine by me.
By the time zakara spauldrons become useful, the gr is probably over anyway (you're out of time). I'd say the shoulders that make teleporting uninterruptible by damage would be better, but it can still be interrupted with those on, so shoulders on follower are almost useless.
They need to add Zod recipe to cube that can only be used once per season. That way we can still use our favorite ethereal from a season and slowly accumulate them but still have incentive to play seasons (find good eth's to save)
Maybe it's just cuz I'm a solo player but black hand seems like far and away the best Necro weapon. 100% Crispin's uptime without relying on things like bone armor dislocation or procs from passives or zeis while constantly cc'ing everything hard pretty seems good to me.
You're looking at the gear for single purpose, not for sets or builds specifically.. for instance, freezing alone on monk isn't that great... But those juicy buffs are making it worth while for a cc support monk when with wizard or Necro which are rly strong during our current season. These items are just enough to make the meta shift due to certain things being too squishy or just not enough dps factor, it's enough to make old builds come back. For instance... That other bow would be excellent for multishot. Js.. and with the speedfarming ability ? That's insane. It's gonna be great for control and quick clears.
It would've been nice if they had some kind of unique power that acts similar to the original weapons.
3:56 Your concept of Ethereal items isn't quite right. In D2, Ethereal items had higher base damage/defense (1.5X the normal amount) of the same item "normal" type.... but ethereal items could not be REPAIRED. So, the best melee weapons tended to be runeworded items that contained a Zod rune (which made them indestructible), or runewords that granted the indestructible affix which were put inot ethereal bases for crazy base damage. Breath of the Dying is a good example of that. Similar idea for armors, though the armor stat wasn't quite as useful in D2.
Casters liked ethereal items for cosmetic flair, because they didn't melee with their wands/sceptres they didn't really have to worry about them breaking.
Really cool to see the ethereal item idea come to D3, should be a fun season.
Also mercs on d2 didn't use durability so all the mercs items would ideally be eth.
I'm a bit bummed in the large difference with usability between classes for the ethereals, but I'm glad they made it easier to collect them all. I would like to unlock the transmogrify reward for them but i didn't want to play every class to do it. I don't even own the necro DLC.
I was waiting for this video, thanks Rax!
We will grind and never find what we need
by the time it does drop, you'll be casually playing
I for one cannot believe that there are people still playing D3. From release on thru when I stopped playing around S7, that was *the* most incompetent developers I’ve ever seen in my decades of gaming.
TY @Raxx. A deep review 👍🏾.
As mage you really want "The Oculus" one handed weapon with the deathwish legendary effect. "Mang Sons Lesson" is complete crap here because you will lose any arcane power on crit and the build gets unplayable. So "The Oculus" is the weapon you want to go for! So you dont need arcane power on crit on your firebird offhand and u can use cooldown reduction or +dmg to elites on your offhand. The 2-handed weapon is USELESS here. Look at the leaderboards Mr. Raxxanterax!!
I know everyone says this but, They should make this permanent. First of all, I find myself stalling out once I don't have anything to strive for. GR 150 is tough but you can only do so much and eventually you want Primal Ancient Legendary equipment but finding one for your character build is a bit like the Lottery. If they chose to keep Ethereal Weapons then I would recommend making it like Primals where you need to clear a GR at like say 100 or better that way you don't get too OP right from the start. They should also limit what passives they possess down to five or six that are most commonly used for certain builds. The people who do the build videos and the PTR always say what passives work best so they don't exactly have to guess given that most of the research is done already. Having a weapon that boosts Barbarian or Demon Hunter would push things forward for many people and give us a better chance of reaching goals. Any thoughts?
I just found Backbogs Sharp. Definitely the best weapon ive found so far.
Just got back in the game today, been playing for about seven hours and at lvl 30 I find one of those hold X to reval what the ? Is. And it was Sould Harvest, my damage went from 460 to an astronomical 10,500 damage. Haven't played in a while and after playing the Diablo 2 demo on Xbox, that bug bit me. So I got a copy. Wasn't even going to start with seasons, and only do the normal, thank goodness I checked on TH-cam what I might have missed.
They should import some of the other affixes from D2, not just the weapons’ looks. Just add crushing blow, deadly strike, and I will be pretty happy.
This makes me think, it would be really nice to be able to 'transplant' legendary effects between weapons (2hands to 1 hands mainly) to spice things a bit.
1-hand ethereals can roll 2-hand legendary affixes, it should be spicy :)
It's been awhile since I last touched Diablo 2, but I thought ethereal weapons had higher damage than non-ethereal weapons, had durability, but couldn't be repaired. The only way around it was to use javelins which could self-replenish, so as long as you didn't use all the charges, they'd recharge up to max over time or use a Zod rune...which were rare as all get out.
Also, 13% movement speed on the Windforce isn't great and all, but it's not wasted. You just take the paragon points out of movement and put them into dexterity or vitality.
You talk about the CC effects on Windforce and Buriza being bad, all the while having fear on that EF. I know the % chance isn't as high, but it's there. Plus, or minus...they really toned down the KB and freeze effects on that WF and Buriza, respectively (from the Diablo 2 versions).
4.5% chance to freeze vs 12.9% chance to fear on your EF...really need to stop complaining about CC effects as long as you've got that EF equipped.
100% chance to aoe fear in place for 7 seconds is ok, but 4.5% chance to freeze isn't. gotcha...I guess the reliability of the aoe fear, and knowing it's going to get dropped is what's good here, but you've spent the last 16 or so minutes of the video claiming CC is bad...while using an EF, but whatever.
I think this looks cool, but when you think about it, the weapons are not so different one from another.
If the secondary orange passives (the ones that buff a skill) are random, then you'll get many useless ethereal weapons.
Some are just OP and some are pretty damm bad.
I think the idea is great but I was expecting other items, like armor items, and more variety between them. Probably they'll introduce more of these items in next season and so on, depending on how this goes.
It's the new way of increasing players power after augmenting and primals.
I'm sure it'll be fun to play for a few days only.
But gotta give credit to Blizzard for trying.
Astreons in D2 yes, mega rare item
Hey raxx, what class do you think will benefit the most from ethereals barring any changes post PTR, and alternatively what class do you think gains the most build versatility from this?
Thanks!
I would have to cube blade of the tribes to use the barb ethereal, Be interesting to see if it increases or decreases damage compared to the usual weapon cube options for leapquake barb.
Found two the first day. Never found another.
Im excited to try WoL monk with the Jade talon. Seems like it would be pretty OP
I did not expect them to be this powerful. Wow.
Necro nerf is way too important, nerfing is not the solution to bring out diversity. We need buffs to other sets !
facts
I wish I had more time to play this season. This is a really cool theme.
The Season 24 doesn't start till August sometime. Unless you are referring to Season 23.
Blackbogs sharp could possibly make corpselance come back as a viable rgk again. Would love to see this
Ethereal weapons couldn't be repaired in D2. So unless they were a runeword item that had a runeword that granted indestructable as part of its stats, you would always lose the item to durability loss. Or if you socketed them with the Zod rune.
Second video I liked from this guy this week. I growing fond of him.
I don´t know why they spelled Grimmershred wrong. Maybe they will fix it. Also ethereal item can lose durability, you are just not able to repair them.
The Redeemer for Crusaders would pair well with Invoker Thorns
I was suprised to get an Ethereal weapon in a common chest instantly bumped the difficulty up
lucky you. i got a fucking necro ethereal at like clvl 24 for my bloody DH - totally fucking useless. After levelling 8 characters for s24 and getting all 8 to clvl 70, I ONLY got 1 fucking ethereal during all of the levelling processes...
Shitty crappy seasonal theme. Glad I'm doing with my conquests, seasonal journey, have found all 21 ethereals using the puzzle ring/vault cheese method and I can quit this shitty season.
Its crazy that D3 is getting so good just before D2R and D4!! They dont want to go out with a whimper! Gunna be tough to figure out which to play!
good? it's fucking shit. Every season is getting worse.
Aah, so Ethereals are buffed legendaries! Now they make sense and not underwhelming at all :)
Basically you use them INSTEAD of like a Dawn, get Dawn's effect AND get a bunch of awesome stat bonuses. Got it! Thanks, Raxx! :)
P.s. I would love some DH Ethereals buffs tho. A bit weak I think.
"If you don't remember ANYTHING from this video. Remember this! SOUL HARVEST........." Best line of the whole video!
Hey Man love your content. Considering the launch date of D2R when do you think this new season will start? I'm hoping late July or early August to get people excited for the new release... What do you think? I'm gonna become a father in September so I would like to enjoy some of my last diablo 3 for a while. :) cheers keep up the good work
Congrats
Necro package cost $, thats why they make them OP
anyone who does not have it by now is clueless anyway.
Question, what torment difficulty do you play on? I'm paragon level 211 and I fly through torment 5 with ease with or without teammates
Thoughts on The Redeemer and Khalim's WIll for Invoker? Right now for solo push we just use Pig Sticker
definitely going to grind for all just to say and show I did, plus D2 hype, but the transmogs are kinda eh. as far as their powers, im gonna need a lot of time to decide my class this season. I have played a lot of necro, but oooh the soul harvest
I really wanted to see the blessed hammer become crusader build go-to. I miss my hammerdin
how is the new monk build coming along? do you have a build for it yet
Idk if rax has cracked into a better, more effective build yet, but early feedback I’ve seen from other players trying it seems to be underwhelming. Part of an issue with it being your toughness is tied to having a bunch of allies up, but to get all allies up you need to be in combat for a bit to produce them. So people are having trouble staying alive in the time between starting an engagement and having all allies up
@@Jordan-hh8wo Yeah, I basically have the same issue with it that I had a certain rendition of Vyr's at one point. Get your buffs by being in combat, but being in combat kills you before you can buff. Terrible design in a game like this.
Wouldn't Khalim's will be good for classes that need a lot of attack speed like invoker thorns?
Ethereals sounds very epic, so why does the item icons look like grey items?
Cuz you're colorblind, they're blue, a cyan/aqua color
Kind of a bummer that they drop on any class. Was thinking the feat of strength would be harder to get.
Might be barb this season! Grandfather + hota affix on iT seems like a fooking Huge buff maybe eben possible as elite speed killer in 4man speeds ? Like 105-115s?
But if innas set is going to buff the shit out of it again, then ill go monk , last time played monk Was like as a sup monk in season 17 or so
Wizard seems also very interesting
Might do a barb as dd for high speeds when its possible, monk for solo push and Wizard for high 4 man push if He will be still there !
I noticed all the Ethereal's have "Ancient" in their names. Does that mean an Ethereal could also be a Primal?
No. An Ethereal is between an ancient and a primal. There won’t be a primal Ethereal. Sorry to say.
@@LordStaind The droprate is between Ancient and Primal.
Op necro gear again, shocking.
gotta keep the OP class the one you have to buy
@@B22_2-87IN necros were nerfed hard this season. Masquerade for bone spear was the only viable build, and they wrecked it this season.
I just got a DOOM with STRAFE but it gains strafe and the PASSIVE rolled ABOVE ? i saw 0 for 200 of this so 1 for 200 You think I found a glitch ? strange stuff
I doubt anything made for D3 will have any relation to d4. With the ethereals it feels more like "this will be the last seasn, enjoy some weapons, that's our parting gift"
for me it feels like they use d3 to test stuff for immortal and d4
@@mlogli5638 Hmm probably with the ethereals but they are made way to simple. I would not like to have items like that in d4. What d4 realy needs is a great skilltree. In my opinion it is the wrong idea to have people builds based on items as much as it is common in d3. In POE you can have a build based on just one legendary item. There is no need for sets. And d3 is still setiablo. As long d3 stays this way, i don't know how they would be able to test stuff for d4 this way. Do you believe, they will be another setiablo in d4?
@@fenfire3824 Well they said sets wont matter that much in d4 and we wont get crazy numbers like the shadow set for dh that makes you do 75k % more dmg so at least we got that ... but who knows what blizzard changes till release :D
But the reason i think they are trying stuff for other games in d3 is they didnt really change a whole lot about d3 in the last 5-6 years and this is the first major thing since the mercenary patch with all equipment slots. I just hope they take all the good things from d3 and make d4 a great game but looking at blizzards last releases i kinda doubt it :/
@@mlogli5638 yh guess we will know better later. I think D2 Remake will be great. But of course, d4 will doing things differently than d2. My biggest conceirn is, that d2 will just be so much better than d4, that there is no need to play d4.
What i realy disliked about d3 was its realy realy weak story. It is better made than the d2 story, thats for sure. But it was already not good enough for the time it was released and in my opinion storytelling in hack n slays can be muuuuuch better. And not just by presenting some few cinematics here and there. If d4 will not have a great story with a great story telling, it will "just" be like all the other hack n slays. In the end the one game wins the throne, which has the better gameplay mechanics and the better character progression. POE is already much better than d3 but the only reasons i think why poe is not yet that well known like diablo is
1. Advertising (It wasnt even available on steam for years)
2. Bad Graphics and cluncky animations and not so fluid looking skills
3. difficult wealth system for most of the people
And if you start poe now as a beginner, the game i completely overwhelming.
So its biggest strength is also in a way its biggest weakness. Your brain cannot keep up with all these tons of new content. There is soooooo much you have to learn.
Just imagine if POE2 will get just one the following features:
1. available on steam and epic right from the start
2. Great graphics and animations
3. A more forgiving wealth system
4. Realy good tutorials and instructions on each features, addons, characterbuilding etc build directly into the game
No other hack n slay would have a chance. Not even arc (guess it will become pay 2 win anyway so guess it will die in eu and us pretty fast)
the blue stats aren't guarenteed, some ethereals role with crit chance and damage and some don't.
The fact it is not required to play all classes is so cool. I don't care the faming part.
On top of what's already mentioned, why bring items from D2 that are already in D3 in their D3 form and also why bring only weapon items instead of multiple types?
Answer to the first is probably deeper nostalgia value (not good for some D3 items in comparison; especially in power translation) and to the second is that Blizz might provide more D2 etherial item types in the future Seasons.
So the Soul Harvest will buff solo mages as well. I was hoping one of the wizard weapons would have be Death's Fathom, still have found that in D2 😂
Yo Raxx question is the buriza good for the impale set i see it has the karlei's point attribute and also are the passive's random rolls?
That's the 2h one, so then you have to choose between cubing Holy Point Shot and Dawn, and I don't think you can afford to give up either one
@@jeffreypenkoff6178 k ty
Disagree on your Wizard rating. The staff is the worst since you give up your offhand and give up a legendary/set item spot. The 300% damage does not make up for it.
It's actually Astreon's the made a typo i guess
I found a Jade Talon on my new monk at level 12...it's amazing to level with
I wish DH could have shined this season by having quiver legendaries on the weapons.
Impale with two 1H would be very interesting.
But no. Soul harvester for Necro is just OMEGA bonkers.
because the drop rate is so low, they at least should let you reroll the random legendary buffs
What do these look like when they drop? Do they have a light blue beam on the ground?
Yes, it's the same effect as a primal drop except the beam is light blue/turquoise. They also have a new icon in the mini-map and drop with the Horadric Cube inventory noise from Diablo 2.
Will these be available only in the upcoming season or will they also drop in non season modes?
Was keen on farming all items for the transmogs but if they’re as underwhelming as people say, I’m probably going to skip. No time to grind paragon day and night so whats the point
Can you pick up a teammate's Ethereal drop and count towards the Feat of Strength? Or do you have to find every item yourself?
Soooooo saaaaad that DH got no Dagger.
they can come out with such sick things like new wepaon tiers, roll rates, stat modifiers. but they just do ethereals .sad
Exactly