@@doraemon402 Efren holds a Southeast Asian Games medal in Snooker when our government sent him to represent us coz there weren't even Snooker players back then and tables to practice on in the Philippines. In that tourney, he competed with specialists from Singapore, a former Brit colony where the game is just as popular as in the UK. O'Sullivan has also confirmed that Efren outhustled him playing Snooker in Thailand when Ronnie who gave him odds was much younger. I'd love to see any Snooker player go up against Efren in 15-Ball Rotation -- Efren's main discipline and the most popular game in the Philippines before he played in America. You can also add Carom / 3-Cushion which he also plays sparingly back in the old days but where he has beaten Thorbjorn Blomdahl, a world champion in an exhibition game that you can find here on TH-cam. You can also add One Pocket to the mix which is one of Efren's favorite games and where he holds a record 6 Derby City Classic trophies to his name videos of which you can also find here.
But only in one discipline. Efron would need to show his skill at a discipline that he never ventured into. Jimmy White performed at Efrens game so well. Efren never thought about playing Jimmy’s game. Both great, but one can rise to pool, where as the other never wanted any part of Jimmy’s discipline.
@@garywright9715 Rise to pool? It's easier. Mark Selby is a pool world champion. Any snooker player would perfectly compete in any pool game. I'd bet my balls not more than 10 pool players would perform at the snooker table
Gary Wright I’ve actually seen Efren play snooker (casually) and can confirm that he looks like nothing special. I mean he can pot a ball and def has some talent but it’s more his approach isn’t suited to the game.
2:55 humble along with the fucking super sized pockets...my flying spaghetti monster just look at size of those so called "pockets" they might as well be call trenches lol
I know he was beaten, but kudos to Jimmy for coming from snooker to Efren's 9-ball world Great match between two legends. Thanks for uploading this, never thought they had a match before
Thanks for uploading this. It brings back memories from that game. I remember a rack when White played a great shot but the cueball ended right up against the jaws of the pocket and he couldn't hit the object ball, it was incredibly bad luck for Jimmy. It's always a pleasure to watch Bata Reyes.
Watching this being an ex pool player myself, I was pro between 2006-2010, and I play ... friendly now, it is amazing how they played. What I mean is the spin/English they used with the technology back then. Now it's much easier to run a rack with the proper equipment, with everybody jumping, all the super soft tips, all the low deflection shafts. Earl was jumping in the 70'es with the play cue ... I think if you put the best players today play with that equipment, they will not play like Efren or Earl. Yeah, I know that both Earl and Efren still play, but, let's face it, they are old and this is an accuracy game. Their eyes are not the same, Efren has arthritis, and so on and so forth. That is pure talent and people who dedicated their entire life to one thing. Also, Jimmy White is a magnificent player and he deserves all the credit. This game could've gone either way.
Jimmy using his snooker cue as well. I'm a snooker fan but on the smaller tables often is king. If u are not from uk u wont understand just how much jimmy is loved. Everyone and I mean everyone loves jimmy, even non snooker fans. The crowd where obviously biased but still showed efren loved. ✌🏴
Of all the World Pool Championships I have watched or been to, this is one of the greatest matches I have seen. Love it, brings back a lot of great memories.
That was THE best moment in pool history imho. Not just the shots but the timing of them. A crucial table length bank to answer another table length bank that won the frame. One to tie on the hill and the other to win the match. Not to mention who played. The best ever in pool against snooker’s legendary whirlwind.
@@miongmagno1604 Not his game though. Valiant effort against the best pool player, White wasn't even the best snooker player, up there but not top top.
Filipinos dont play snooker....they dont have snooker games there and Efren is a filipino who grew up playing only pool. Jimmy and ronny grew up in a country with both pool and snooker and played both games but mostly snooker. Now how can you compare those players' skills in playing both games? I play pool and visited many pool clubs in Manila and I never saw any snooker table, if there are, its a rare scene. Ronny and Jimmy grew up playing snooker so its normal that they are good/great in that game. If only efren also grew up playing snooker now that will be a diff story....
Fyi.. the magician knows all. From billiards to snooker even to pitsa table. Efren reyes is no amateur nor pro. He is a Grand Master of billiards. He practice on snooker table @ rizal stadium. Efren reyes becomes a legend because of his hard work.
Well actually no he didn't, cos Ronnie wasn't professional when he was 16 so would have no reason to go to the Far East, which is where efren said he beat him at snooker
James Wells it wasnt a pro match, reyes was never a pro snooker player. Ronnie was beating pro snooker players already at age 15. He gave reyes, who last played the snooker 4yrs before the match, a 25headstart. It happened, reyes won. If there is anything we can take from it, is that retes can also be competitive in snooker if snooker was what philippines play instead of pool. Question is, would he greater than ronnie... nobody knows. But the match happened. Daryl peach have a story about it, it sounded quite exaggerated tho, perhaps he was just adding more stuff into it but two facts are there... it happened and efren won. old.9ballpool.co.uk/interviews/daryl_peach_240604.html
I had never heard of Jimmy White but I figure he must have been a very good pool player after being a snooker player but Effren Rayes is a phenomenal pool player and his bank on the two and then the slice of the three in the side. Both shots could have easily been missed and the whole thing lost but his skill and confidence are unbelievable. This was fun the watch.
Danny Orsello ..... 4:41 is one of the most awesome flukes of all time. Jimmy White knows it. Efren Reyes knows it. But apparently the announcers don't know it. Your analysis was spot on.
@speedgun00 Why can he do that? Because pool is very suited towards hustling. You also may ask why doesn't he just compete in snooker and earn the top prize money. Refer back to my comment about variety and options. Snooker is boring, like it or not. Snooker players are basically one-trick ponies to put it bluntly. There aren't many variations of snooker, and as far as professional competition goes, it's always the same - given a rule tweak here or there.
I give a lot of Credits to Jimmy White. I want to see him play longer in the world of pool! Efren, The Pool Icon of my country played his best ability on the table! If I can play like this I can play at the professional and world stage!
00:58 some lady shouted to punish Efren, i bet she ate her nasty words after their homeboy lost hahaha, anyways one just cant compare a snooker player from a pool player, whatever people say, no one compares to Efren in terms of imagination and precision of play... MABUHAY KA EFREN AT SALAMAT SA KARANGALAN NA IBINIGAY MO SA ATING MGA KABABAYAN
+Harabas349 actually I think the English crowd are hoot. Plus they really support there sports. That's why there so much money in snooker. Yes snooker is great game and England has culture advantage. Cold damp climate which makes club and bar games passion.. hence snooker and darts..... and downing the brew.
Efren has always been an excellent role model for most of all billiard players from beginners to the pro's. His conduct on and off a pool table is always inspiring. Always a student of the game and mentor to others. In my opinion what makes an excellent pool player legendary is his willingness to learn what he doesnt already know.
commentator can't count the last break had more balls on the table (6) than jimmy made. Jimmy was lucky to win 16th game. I like Jimmy White, but 9 ball not his game, just like snooker not Reyes game.
Because he would get seriously destroyed lol , the difference in skill needed between snooker and pool is just way too much for efren to handle. Dont get me wrong efren is a legend of pool but put him on a snooker table and he just cant produce the same.
Indeed. It's like checkers v chess. A chess player with no experience would run a checkers player close at checkers. In a game of chess the checkers player would not win once in a million games. Jimmy with next to no pool experience loses 9-8 to the GOAT. In snooker it's 100% guaranteed Jimmy wins 9-0.
Amazing shot on the 5 and next break. But the way Reyes played the long bank and got out of trouble on the 3 shows he's a machine to be able to play that cool under pressure.
Well let's be real here. There is applause for a great intentional shot and there is applause for just good fortune. There is no way in 10 hells White was playing that combination 9 ball shot. He was just trying to hit the ball hard enough to leave the cue ball at one end and the 5 at the other.
+shalokin We will have to agree to disagree. If the 9 had been sitting in the pocket then maybe its a shot you consider. But not when it's 10 inches up on the rail. A blind kick..full length...into a bank....into a combination on a ball sitting near the rail 10" from the hole. Sorry. Also it was disappointing when he acted like he meant to do it, instead of throwing up his hand. Says something about a players character.
+AlrightThen15 - Define 'intentional'. Here's my attempt: if you think a shot may go, however unlikely, and you give it the required power, and it goes in, then for me that's an intentional pot. He may know it's very unlikely to go in but that doesn't mean he wasn't trying for it. Do you have a different definition of 'intentional'? Jimmy White is much loved for his good sportsmanship, see him tap the table with his knuckles after Reyes snookers him at 4:24. And well-known, like Reyes, for going for and making outrageous shots. Until you know FOR SURE he didn't intend the shot, I don't think it says anything at all about his character. You're making a judgement, based on an assumption.
My point is that I believe he looked at the 9 but counted it out. Obviously in 9ball you always take note of where the 9ball is on the table as it's the one that counts. So on this shot he looked to see where the 9ball was. When he sees it's too far away from the hole and near the rail he completely erased the shot from his choices. He went for the best safety shot which is solid lick on the 5 which makes the cue ball float nearby after impact and sends the 5 to the other end for hopefully a decent safety. The 9 ball was completely off his radar. Now most of the time I would make this statement as "in my opinion", but there is no way he played a blind kick, into a full length combination, into the 9 ball sitting 10" up on the rail. Even if he posted himself that he meant to do it I would not believe him. It's one of those where the crowd starts going crazy and your so overcome that you just play along with it but if you had been in a pool hall you would have said "sorry" or thrown a hand up or whatever. I like White. Don't get me wrong. At some point we've all claimed 1 or 2 we shouldn't have. But for the most part were good birds :) Cheers.
"I believe he looked at the 9 but counted it out." Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion, but that's all it is, right? "...he completely erased the shot from his choices." How do you know that? Any evidence? "The 9 ball was completely off his radar." See above. "...most of the time I would make this statement as "in my opinion"" That might be best in this case also, as you are just making assumptions about what was going through Jimmy White's mind. "there is no way he played a blind kick, into a full length combination, into the 9 ball sitting 10" up on the rail." Oh he played it all right, the question seems to be, did he intend it? You're saying 'no way', I'm saying, 'maybe, we don't know.' You say he didn't behave in the correct sporting manner. That in a way, he lied. I say you should have more evidence than your opinion if you want to say something negative like that about a person. Or just say it's your opinion, instead of stating it as a fact. Maybe you have claimed 'one or two' you shouldn't have, but not everyone plays that way.
they are both playing in the same table. if our tables have bigger pockets then Jimmy should have won much easier but of course Efren Reyes the best player in world won.. swallow that lmao...
IF it's so easy why am I not seeing you on TV. They both playing the same table and balls. You shoot hard enough and ball goes around the table some time you get lucky and it bumps enough balls and one falls. That's 9 ball, which requires no call shots.
again, when am I going to see you on TV it the Pockets are SO BIG. They are big cause the Players are so good. Snooker and Chinese pool are played on snooker style tables the rest of the world plays on 8 ball tables. Would the pockets be to big on 3 cushion billiards table?
If Jimmy White won this game they would be celebrating. since he did not, they go "oh you know what mate this game is for drunk people snooker is better"
***** who was that snooker player and who was this supposed "best" that he beat ? Efren beat ronnie in a game of snooker in thailand before and he wasn't just beaten he was beaten in fashion.
***** "So remind me when you get some intelligence." oh please what are you 12 ? is this suppose to get me mad or something ? well then let me correct you there ( given that i'm not even good in English as tagalog is my native language ) , the proper word you are looking for is "proof" or "evidence". if by any chance i am missing any information that does not mean i lack intelligence it only means i lack details. second, even if by your calculation, ronnie was 15, he was still a more experienced player than efren in snooker at the time. given that as you snooker fans claim, snooker is totally different from a game of pool. but well im guessing now you would claim different.
I love pool. Effren Reyes is a fantastic player! Bottom line though, snooker is a harder game. Period! The most intelligent comment on here points out that snooker players can be competitive in pool tournaments with little practice whereas I could NEVER see effren entering a top 32 snooker tournament and having a hope in hell. FACT! I've watched and played both games for years at a decent club level and for me watching Ronnie in full flow is the most mind blowing sight in any cue sport. Effren is great but I find myself impressed mainly with his consistency rather than skill. On those pool tables you can miss by half an inch and the pocket still takes the ball. 9 ball the positional play is pretty straight forward and the tables are smaller, much smaller. They are 2 different games and each brings its own skill set but snooker is HARDER. Lol at the guy claiming the 147's and saying pool is harder. I'm stroking my big fucking chin you muppet! Oh and effren never beat Ronnie in '91. More bullshit. And effren I wanna see you make a century, not saying you haven't, just wanna see some proof. Smh
Well I suppose you could make a pool table twenty feet long and go on about how it is so much harder to pocket balls on, to which I would respond......so what? That wouldn't necessarily make for a better game. Also, it should be mentioned that the top pool players often "cheat" the pocket (pick what side of it they make the ball in) on purpose. Pool and snooker are different games, requirng different strategies, and different skill sets (which in fairness you acknowledged). I'm not sure if a pool player has made a century (though I suspect they have), but then again I'm not sure that a snooker player has exceeded a 500 ball run in straight pool as Willie Mosconi did. either.
Reggie1971la Pool is an easy game, it's as simple as that, you can talk about strategies and skillsets, but it is easy, i am a very good player, but put me on a snooker table and i flop. The reality is snooker is for the gifted, i can practice and become a great pool player but no matter how much i practice snooker i will never become a century maker. Put a snooker player on a pool table and they will beat the best, put a pool player on a snooker table and they have no fucking chance, there is no argument here.
jchneo26 You are quite wrong, there is an argument and a strong one at that. Your characterization of pool as an "easy" game is laughable. You obviously don't know what you are talking about. You say you can become a great pool player, but you provide no evidence for that. Snooker players do not dominate tournament pool, nor have I heard of them being particular successful at playing the best pool players in side money action. Both snooker and pool require talent. I'm sorry but your argument isn't valid.
Reggie1971la I'd like to see a pool player enter the snooker world champs and see how far they get. There's no denying that snooker players can progress very far in pro pool tournaments, the fact that jimmy white pushed the so called greatest 9 ball player to the last frame with no previous experience is astonishing. It's quite frankly embarrassing how easy it is for these snooker players. Just look at the mosconi cups of the 90s, the European teams used snooker players and they would beat the great american 9 ball players at the time. Any half decent player would be able to at least take a frame off a pro in 9 ball, never in snooker. Case closed.
curmanify If you think that a single close match between Jimmy White and Efren Reyes is a reliable measure of how they compare as nine-ball players then you are mistaken. If a full-time snooker player were to play a long session against an elite nine-ball player, they would almost certainly get demolished. A snooker player could win a race to 9 set here and there, but I can scarcely remember a single example of one winning a men's 9-ball tournament. As for pool players not winning a set of snooker against a professional, there is an obvious reason for that. Snooker is very seldom played in the United States, while pool is conversely much more popular in Britain. Pool players don't really play the game. It should also be mentioned that the European teams' strongest players are professional pool players. Aside from all that, you do realize that 9-ball isn't the only game played on a pool table, right? In a race to 150 you would very seldom see a snooker player beat a professional pool player in straight pool. Increase the number of balls it takes to win, and the snooker player's chances further diminish. Then there is one-pocket, where each player is assigned only one corner pocket that they can make balls in. I could imagine a snooker player playing a one-pocket champion twenty games and being quite fortunate to win one.
No, Efren is secretly one of the best snooker players in the world. He played it regularly in the Philippines as it is a big gambling game there as well as Russian Pyramids. He once beat Ronnie O' and White at snooker and consistently ran 100 plus. Although he doesn't play snooker anymore, all the top snooker players will acknowledge his skill at the game.
beniteztheconman You must be joking. No money in pool? According to AZB, pool players consistently rank higher than snooker players for annual earnings. www.azbilliards.com/people/azb-money-leaderboard/2015/all/
***** Utter nonsense. There is absolutely no money in pool. $100k is the top...LMFAO...snooker players would not get out of bed for that. The losing semi finalist in the world championship gets $100k ...and that is just one tournament. Your list is the pool worlds entire season! Comedy game.. it is not a sport.The only pool players who can make money..are hustlers...mostly in Philippines. Stephen Hendry..Steve Davis..Ronnie O'Sulivan...to name but THREE multi millionaire snooker players. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_snooker_millionaires
Both of these players are winners, you can't possibly get better value for money than watching them ....no loser just slightly and I mean slightly one cigarette paper width between them, thanks guys
no match at all with your snooker player..... thousands miles away from the magnificent performance of the world professional pool champion ... no match at all..... sorry..................................................
Jimmy White is a retired snooker player, and has never really had any pool experience apart from this, yet he made the mighty "magician" shit himself with his double of the cushion and good break, so a person who retired from a different sport (which is harder and requires more nerve and skill) was only narrowly beaten by the top player of another different sport, what do you think that says about how hard the game is?
hahaha the mighty magician, you have no idea do you, your magician was pushed all the way by a guy who does not play pool, but the game of the gods they call snooker. Pool is piss easy, efren has played all his life and will never match the skill level of a snooker player, i bet if jimmy had tried he would have destroyed him, but it would be embarrasing for your so called champion
jchneo26, jimmy is an average player compared to a world champion of billiards. he has been playing with so many famous and great American billiards and not to mention the other parts of the world. what about your snooker players, do they compete in very corners of the world/ I do not think so they play snooker of themselves, lousy. we have to admit that jimmy had survived in that game because of his luck. he had never showed any extraordinary pockets, that one simple mistakes you would lose the game.and that is why, he is called magician and world champion. I advice you to review the video again..
you said jimmy had never played billiards before and yet he was already retired from playing snooker. why did he accept to have a game with the magician, probably because of the money. for your information, if you can play pool, you can play any type pool games because one of the basic principle is to pocket the balls so anybody can play pool. like what I said to jchneo26, jimmy had never displayed any phenominal pockets during that time, he had been so lucky that he survived in that game. and probably when you were watching that video you had thought that jimmy was going to win, sad he did not make it.. money and popularity that jimmy had urged him to have a game with him though he knew that he would never win.
before I write, let me give an applause to all Snooker players here. Congratulation to Daryl Peach for winning the 2007 World Pool Championship in Manila by defeating Filipino Roberto Gomez. Until now, Daryl remain the champion, reigning almost for two years, probably the longest in modern Pool history. He was so good, he defeated the defending champion Ronato Alcano and Philippine No. 2 Francisco Bustamante. He was the first British to win in world 9 ball tournament. Can he defend it?
this is why pool sucks as a sport, you can play flawlessly and still lose, theres to much luck involved, and if luck is a major factor then it should not be a sport.
+john tucker I saw flaws in Jimmy White's play, even in this short clip. Same with Efren. Efren was just the more skilled player and able to make the shots.
+john tucker Pool sucks as a sport? LOL. There is far less luck involved than skill. If it was mostly luck I would win my fair shair of tournaments...and trust me I don't. What guys like Reyes are able to do is simply amazing. And luck is a very small part of it.
dud, all games with sticks and balls has some amount of luck, the problem is the green horns relay on luck while the seasoned players produce it. Only unskilled players are unlucky.
Ronnie has said in interviews that he likes Efren. Said he likes the way he plays and that he makes it look so easy. Alot of professionals have that humility to where they can admit a player being better or calling a player their favorite. Efren has said that Mike Sigel is the player he looks up to and he considers Mike to be the best player in the world. It doesn't make you a bad player to admit someone is better, there's always a bigger fish.
this is the 2nd best shot {2 ball bank} and unbelievable match ever! in the history of pool.remember the match betwwen strickland the two rail bank?unbelievable!!!! go efren! mabuhay ang filipino! make as proud!
They pretty much are. The potting dynamics in both are the same, except Snooker is much much harder. If Ronnie put his mind to pool, he would win the pool world championship. It's easier to transition to pool from snooker, than the other way round.
Orichalon99 your wrong... There is no facts or evidenced that snooker pro player won championship in pool ... If that so.. It is very rare....so that its not easy..
Any world pool player champion can also do all the tricks he does on the table. But none of them has the “GUTS” to do it during a tournament. Only Efren “Bata” Reyes has the BALLS!!! Definitely the “Magician.”
Sir Bata Reyes, napakahusay ninyo at ako po ay isa sa milyong milyong tagahanga sa paglalaro ng bilyar. Pinatunayan ninyo na napakahusay nyo sa mga pakunwari na marunong mag-laro ng nang bilyar, ngunit ang kanilang laro ay snooker
So have I, but I'm not a pro. It's all mental...if I made every shot I'm supposed to make I'd be right up there with Earl and SVB, but I'm not. The difference is consistency and focus, and the top pros are WAY more consistent and focused than guys like me, who make amazing shots but tend to get a little out of line here and there....and then lose to the pros.
One other thing the reason why Davis said that Reyers would have to "hit it fairly hard" was because it would reduce the exit angle of the cushion. If you double a ball hard on a snooker table it will straighten up especially on the second bounce.
I think the general view with snooker is that the pockets are tighter and so there is less margin for error. Hit the cushion with the ball you intend potting just before the jaw of the pocket on a snooker table it it usually doesn't go in and so your aim has to be quite precise, but it seems you can be quite a way out with you aim on a pool table where the ball hits the cushion just before the pocket and so changes direction but still drops into the pocket anyway.
Also, Efren had a lot more pressure on him than jimmy since it was held in the UK. Pressure, ease of mind, controlling your emotions is extremely important in pool cuz its such a precise game.
Having recently started playing cue sports again, Snooker is ridiculously harder. Pool does have some tactics that you have to master, but the pots are so easy compared to snooker, I can get 90% of pool shots, in snooker I probably pot 60%
In an interview with Darryl Peach he was asked: Who, in your opinion, was the greatest ever to pick up a cue (snooker, pool, whatever)? Snooker: Ronnie O'Sullivan Pool: Efren Reyes Overall: Efren because I saw him play Jimmy White and Ronnie O'Sullivan 6 years ago, at snooker best of 5 for �100 each if I remember rightly: he beat both of them with his pool cue, and he made 3 centuries!! Now that's special. See link for this interview: 9ballpool.co.uk/interviews/daryl_peach_240604.html
Representing the Phillipines and playing professionally are two completely different things. In a best of 9 against any player on snooker's Main Tour, I don't think Efren would have a chance. I think Efren would agree, too!
@wellredpat Well said. The snooker vs pool debate is a non-argument and both can be appreciated for different reasons and it a a great privilege watching the masters at each discipline. In both games what continues to amaze me is how steady the top players are under the huge pressure of expectations of crowd and commentators and the glare of TV lights.
Jim is so lucky . He didn't suffer the death of sitting on the chair for a long time waiting for his turn. While other brought along their tents to sleep in for a while and brick games to pass the time if he could ever get his turn.
Davis to Sid: "Don't ask me, I'm a snooker player". Great humility Steve, but not quite what the person who booked you as a commentator was expecting...haha
You're right, I stand corrected. They abolished that two years ago. But my point still stands: there is more money in snooker than in pool. And furthermore, since snooker is a more difficult game than pool (sorry to have to fart in the elevator, but it is), and if Efren was interested in his historical reputation, he would have to prove himself in snooker tournaments against the likes of Ronnnie and the rest. Snooker players test themselves in pool tournaments; why do we seldom see the reverse?
Would love to see the whole match - as great a fan as I've always been of Jimmy White, it seems like a miracle he came so close to beating, of all players, Efren Reyes. Or were there more flukes like that kick-bank 5 onto 9. Certainly, the table doesn't look as if it wasn't breaking well, and the pockets (watch that 2 into the head corner pocket!) are easy even by pool standards, so every factor in favour of the experienced position, safety and kick shot specialist Reyes, one would think.
@jayrecto Sorry where did you get this information from? I can't find anything of this description on his wiki. Apparently he was never a snooker player.
Bottom line.. two incredible players making incredible shots, but even Jimmy White can't intimidate Efren Reyes, coolest cat on earth!
I'd like to see Reyes trying to play snooker...
Doraemon me wouldn’t stand a hope against most average players. Sure look at the size of them pockets lmao how can you not miss
@@doraemon402 Efren holds a Southeast Asian Games medal in Snooker when our government sent him to represent us coz there weren't even Snooker players back then and tables to practice on in the Philippines. In that tourney, he competed with specialists from Singapore, a former Brit colony where the game is just as popular as in the UK. O'Sullivan has also confirmed that Efren outhustled him playing Snooker in Thailand when Ronnie who gave him odds was much younger.
I'd love to see any Snooker player go up against Efren in 15-Ball Rotation -- Efren's main discipline and the most popular game in the Philippines before he played in America. You can also add Carom / 3-Cushion which he also plays sparingly back in the old days but where he has beaten Thorbjorn Blomdahl, a world champion in an exhibition game that you can find here on TH-cam. You can also add One Pocket to the mix which is one of Efren's favorite games and where he holds a record 6 Derby City Classic trophies to his name videos of which you can also find here.
Its a shame that people commenting on this can't accept there are 2 cue masters playing here. Some out of this world shots from both of them.
But only in one discipline. Efron would need to show his skill at a discipline that he never ventured into. Jimmy White performed at Efrens game so well. Efren never thought about playing Jimmy’s game. Both great, but one can rise to pool, where as the other never wanted any part of Jimmy’s discipline.
@@garywright9715 Rise to pool? It's easier.
Mark Selby is a pool world champion.
Any snooker player would perfectly compete in any pool game.
I'd bet my balls not more than 10 pool players would perform at the snooker table
Pool's a kids' game. Snooker's a gentlemen's game.
Gary Wright I’ve actually seen Efren play snooker (casually) and can confirm that he looks like nothing special. I mean he can pot a ball and def has some talent but it’s more his approach isn’t suited to the game.
Then why did Efren won a gold medal in snooker sea games before? 🤔🤔
4:41 is one of the most awesome shots ever.
Jimmy coulda missed that by 4 inches and it still wudda went in
@@guiltypleasure12345 Lol and that's because you're a Filipino.
if I made that shot in a pub its a fluke when jimmy makes it hes a master
LUCK!!!
Awesome.but loss😭
How humble is Efren. Amazing personality. Love from Sri Lanka..❤❤❤
2:55 humble along with the fucking super sized pockets...my flying spaghetti monster just look at size of those so called "pockets" they might as well be call trenches lol
When a Snooker Master fought the Billiards Legend. What a great game!
I know he was beaten, but kudos to Jimmy for coming from snooker to Efren's 9-ball world
Great match between two legends. Thanks for uploading this, never thought they had a match before
And being able to go 7-9 against him is crazy. Jimmy is an all around incredible player. And that ending shot of course is one of legend
Thanks for uploading this. It brings back memories from that game. I remember a rack when White played a great shot but the cueball ended right up against the jaws of the pocket and he couldn't hit the object ball, it was incredibly bad luck for Jimmy. It's always a pleasure to watch Bata Reyes.
This is the best match I've ever watched and like most so exciting match!! They were both best players.
Efren Reyes humbly and quietly won in the midst of raucous crowd and biased commentators.
marshal rodriguez he can't hear the commentators
Parvin Rahmanyar agreed
+another user may hika si eften ulul
no, he also kept trying to put the cue ball a bit ahead in the break, and earl had to tire himself asking the referee to do his job. unprofessional.
Raucous crowd around Jimmy White is normal, Efren will be aware of this ,also he can't hear the commentators
Watching this being an ex pool player myself, I was pro between 2006-2010, and I play ... friendly now, it is amazing how they played.
What I mean is the spin/English they used with the technology back then. Now it's much easier to run a rack with the proper equipment, with everybody jumping, all the super soft tips, all the low deflection shafts. Earl was jumping in the 70'es with the play cue ...
I think if you put the best players today play with that equipment, they will not play like Efren or Earl. Yeah, I know that both Earl and Efren still play, but, let's face it, they are old and this is an accuracy game. Their eyes are not the same, Efren has arthritis, and so on and so forth.
That is pure talent and people who dedicated their entire life to one thing.
Also, Jimmy White is a magnificent player and he deserves all the credit. This game could've gone either way.
Jimmy using his snooker cue as well. I'm a snooker fan but on the smaller tables often is king. If u are not from uk u wont understand just how much jimmy is loved. Everyone and I mean everyone loves jimmy, even non snooker fans.
The crowd where obviously biased but still showed efren loved. ✌🏴
@@woody816 Of course they love him, he seems like a great person.
EfrenTheLegend, JimmyTheGreat ;)
Daniel Alegado JimmyTheGreatLedgend, ElfrenThePrettyDamnGoodToo
+Horde Hunter I'm pool player I'm not agree with you bro. Efren greatest player in pool ever
@@carlostn Say that without crying...
Of all the World Pool Championships I have watched or been to, this is one of the greatest matches I have seen. Love it, brings back a lot of great memories.
Decaf for the announcers next time
Nah they gotta be hype
Low end theory 😺
That was THE best moment in pool history imho. Not just the shots but the timing of them. A crucial table length bank to answer another table length bank that won the frame. One to tie on the hill and the other to win the match. Not to mention who played. The best ever in pool against snooker’s legendary whirlwind.
This is a wonderful clip, thanks so much for uploading it.
;hipongirlwowowin
Great match by the two legends. Great display of sportsmanship from jimmy white during the handshake. This is a classic match.
I was there when this match took place..and i was there for the final to
Thanks again MR. Jayrecto for uploading this 1999 World Professional Pool Championship again! plssss upload more of this video! thanks! Godbless u!!
Efren Reyes is the finest player to ever pick up a cue....period!
Ronald o Sullivan?
@@topwelda147 nope
@@lorenzsantos4467 okay then pal, 9 ball bucket pocket head
@@topwelda147 Either the Rocket or the Hurricane
@@tommo258 these yanks man pffft
@Lollertron You're knowledge of the game is exceptional, keep it up!!
Epic when you get the crowd get quite lol
A kick to a bank to a combination in one shot, one of the best shots I ever saw. Efren is the best. Jimmy made an incredible shot, and aggressively
American Pool = Miss the shot by miles and it still goes in!!!
Yet..your homeboy lost
@@miongmagno1604 Not his game though. Valiant effort against the best pool player, White wasn't even the best snooker player, up there but not top top.
Great to see these pool matches at last! Thanks for uploading!
All the best,
Big Dave
Editor,
Pro9 - The European Pool Player Resource.
no matter what efren is the greatest humble and magical
humble my ass.
@@useranother667 yes humble ur ass fuck u,,if u hate reyes don't watch his videos dumb ass
sportsmanship and passion are what you'd see from two people who are masters of their craft.
Filipinos dont play snooker....they dont have snooker games there and Efren is a filipino who grew up playing only pool. Jimmy and ronny grew up in a country with both pool and snooker and played both games but mostly snooker. Now how can you compare those players' skills in playing both games? I play pool and visited many pool clubs in Manila and I never saw any snooker table, if there are, its a rare scene. Ronny and Jimmy grew up playing snooker so its normal that they are good/great in that game. If only efren also grew up playing snooker now that will be a diff story....
Fyi.. the magician knows all. From billiards to snooker even to pitsa table.
Efren reyes is no amateur nor pro. He is a Grand Master of billiards. He practice on snooker table @ rizal stadium. Efren reyes becomes a legend because of his hard work.
hahaha if you are born with that game there is no excuse for it. you will be great no matter what.
Efren plays all billiard games.
There are not many 9 ball tables in the UK though. We usually play UK 8ball or Snooker.
Efren play 3cushion in snooker..
The best tournament ever been performed by the two legends ever seen ! Fantastic pool players!
Best match i've ever seen!!!!
i'm amazed!! please upload more racks! (the whole match if it possible! :D)
Reyes and Jimmy are two great players, and in 1991 Reyes played Ronnie O' Sullivan in snooker.
king is king
Well actually no he didn't, cos Ronnie wasn't professional when he was 16 so would have no reason to go to the Far East, which is where efren said he beat him at snooker
+James Wells exactly what i was thinking lol
James Wells it wasnt a pro match, reyes was never a pro snooker player.
Ronnie was beating pro snooker players already at age 15. He gave reyes, who last played the snooker 4yrs before the match, a 25headstart.
It happened, reyes won. If there is anything we can take from it, is that retes can also be competitive in snooker if snooker was what philippines play instead of pool.
Question is, would he greater than ronnie... nobody knows. But the match happened.
Daryl peach have a story about it, it sounded quite exaggerated tho, perhaps he was just adding more stuff into it but two facts are there... it happened and efren won.
old.9ballpool.co.uk/interviews/daryl_peach_240604.html
Superb! How is it possible?
"come on Jim, punish him!" I bet she ate her words at the end 😂😂😂
This for me is the best game in any World Pool Championship!
It's a matter of Acceptance if u lose..that's the best skill of a player..sportsmanship
One of the greatest matches of all times, two great champions 🏆👏
Pool is fun to watch but nowhere near as enjoyable watching Ronnie in full flow in snooker..
+John Cooper I agree Ronnie is cut about the rest with sticks in their hands
yeah, like playing 8 ball. lol
yeah snooker is the best : ) 💚💜🎱🐛
Jimmy is washed up....drunkard.
Oh no here comes the snooker guy...
I had never heard of Jimmy White but I figure he must have been a very good pool player after being a snooker player but Effren Rayes is a phenomenal pool player and his bank on the two and then the slice of the three in the side. Both shots could have easily been missed and the whole thing lost but his skill and confidence are unbelievable. This was fun the watch.
Danny Orsello ..... 4:41 is one of the most awesome flukes of all time. Jimmy White knows it. Efren Reyes knows it. But apparently the announcers don't know it. Your analysis was spot on.
@speedgun00 Why can he do that? Because pool is very suited towards hustling. You also may ask why doesn't he just compete in snooker and earn the top prize money. Refer back to my comment about variety and options. Snooker is boring, like it or not. Snooker players are basically one-trick ponies to put it bluntly. There aren't many variations of snooker, and as far as professional competition goes, it's always the same - given a rule tweak here or there.
I give a lot of Credits to Jimmy White. I want to see him play longer in the world of pool! Efren, The Pool Icon of my country played his best ability on the table!
If I can play like this I can play at the professional and world stage!
im pretty sure efren played snooker. look it up.
+John Frank He played a bit and his highest break is a very respectable 133!
If Reyes and Jimmy White were to play 3 cushion, one pocket, or rotation. There's no way Jimmy white could have won. Reyes' just pure genius
00:58 some lady shouted to punish Efren, i bet she ate her nasty words after their homeboy lost hahaha, anyways one just cant compare a snooker player from a pool player, whatever people say, no one compares to Efren in terms of imagination and precision of play... MABUHAY KA EFREN AT SALAMAT SA KARANGALAN NA IBINIGAY MO SA ATING MGA KABABAYAN
+Harabas349 actually I think the English crowd are hoot. Plus they really support there sports. That's why there so much money in snooker. Yes snooker is great game and England has culture advantage. Cold damp climate which makes club and bar games passion.. hence snooker and darts..... and downing the brew.
chill my pinoy man
the lady was joking you idiot
Efren has always been an excellent role model for most of all billiard players from beginners to the pro's. His conduct on and off a pool table is always inspiring. Always a student of the game and mentor to others. In my opinion what makes an excellent pool player legendary is his willingness to learn what he doesnt already know.
Holy biased commentating, Batman!
+Carl Shaw have a word with yourself
+airwolf_1987 Of course they were biased but then they acknowledged that and explained the reasons why.
Englishmen rooting for a fellow Englishman, why perish the thought! Beyound outrageous!!
@@amazed66 its ok to be a snob if you say sorry
@@larrycoffey8076 Is that a question or a statement?
That nine ball shot by jimmy was the greatest shot ever!! Wow!! Two titans clashing and showing why they are they best in the world!!
commentator can't count the last break had more balls on the table (6) than jimmy made. Jimmy was lucky to win 16th game. I like Jimmy White, but 9 ball not his game, just like snooker not Reyes game.
I've never seen Reyes shoot snooker
Because he would get seriously destroyed lol , the difference in skill needed between snooker and pool is just way too much for efren to handle. Dont get me wrong efren is a legend of pool but put him on a snooker table and he just cant produce the same.
Because Nobody likes snooker. Pool is more popular and exiciting game. People who likes snooker it's like watching a chess match!
Read up.... reyes is not a pro snooker player but he can definitely play snooker.
old.9ballpool.co.uk/interviews/daryl_peach_240604.html
Indeed. It's like checkers v chess. A chess player with no experience would run a checkers player close at checkers. In a game of chess the checkers player would not win once in a million games. Jimmy with next to no pool experience loses 9-8 to the GOAT. In snooker it's 100% guaranteed Jimmy wins 9-0.
great match... this is the most memorable world pool for me... ive watched every tv tables on espn....
4:33 o m f g 😯🙏🏼 🎱🐛
I love to see Efren Reyes play. He is the greatest pool player ever.
i hope jimmy white didnt think he was going to win against the greatest ever
Amazing shot on the 5 and next break. But the way Reyes played the long bank and got out of trouble on the 3 shows he's a machine to be able to play that cool under pressure.
Well let's be real here. There is applause for a great intentional shot and there is applause for just good fortune. There is no way in 10 hells White was playing that combination 9 ball shot. He was just trying to hit the ball hard enough to leave the cue ball at one end and the 5 at the other.
+shalokin We will have to agree to disagree. If the 9 had been sitting in the pocket then maybe its a shot you consider. But not when it's 10 inches up on the rail. A blind kick..full length...into a bank....into a combination on a ball sitting near the rail 10" from the hole. Sorry.
Also it was disappointing when he acted like he meant to do it, instead of throwing up his hand. Says something about a players character.
+AlrightThen15 - Define 'intentional'. Here's my attempt: if you think a shot may go, however unlikely, and you give it the required power, and it goes in, then for me that's an intentional pot. He may know it's very unlikely to go in but that doesn't mean he wasn't trying for it. Do you have a different definition of 'intentional'?
Jimmy White is much loved for his good sportsmanship, see him tap the table with his knuckles after Reyes snookers him at 4:24. And well-known, like Reyes, for going for and making outrageous shots. Until you know FOR SURE he didn't intend the shot, I don't think it says anything at all about his character. You're making a judgement, based on an assumption.
My point is that I believe he looked at the 9 but counted it out. Obviously in 9ball you always take note of where the 9ball is on the table as it's the one that counts. So on this shot he looked to see where the 9ball was. When he sees it's too far away from the hole and near the rail he completely erased the shot from his choices. He went for the best safety shot which is solid lick on the 5 which makes the cue ball float nearby after impact and sends the 5 to the other end for hopefully a decent safety. The 9 ball was completely off his radar. Now most of the time I would make this statement as "in my opinion", but there is no way he played a blind kick, into a full length combination, into the 9 ball sitting 10" up on the rail. Even if he posted himself that he meant to do it I would not believe him. It's one of those where the crowd starts going crazy and your so overcome that you just play along with it but if you had been in a pool hall you would have said "sorry" or thrown a hand up or whatever. I like White. Don't get me wrong. At some point we've all claimed 1 or 2 we shouldn't have. But for the most part were good birds :) Cheers.
"I believe he looked at the 9 but counted it out." Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion, but that's all it is, right?
"...he completely erased the shot from his choices." How do you know that? Any evidence?
"The 9 ball was completely off his radar." See above.
"...most of the time I would make this statement as "in my opinion"" That might be best in this case also, as you are just making assumptions about what was going through Jimmy White's mind.
"there is no way he played a blind kick, into a full length combination, into the 9 ball sitting 10" up on the rail." Oh he played it all right, the question seems to be, did he intend it? You're saying 'no way', I'm saying, 'maybe, we don't know.'
You say he didn't behave in the correct sporting manner. That in a way, he lied. I say you should have more evidence than your opinion if you want to say something negative like that about a person. Or just say it's your opinion, instead of stating it as a fact. Maybe you have claimed 'one or two' you shouldn't have, but not everyone plays that way.
+AlrightThen15 Whatever you call it, this is pocket billiards mate. Don't talk about luck it'll drive you mad.
I really love Efren and his shots...
until now he is making unbelievable shots that no one has ever seen before.
2:50 - that shot, that shot right there is why this game is a nonsense.
Not game is nonse but table, pockets are REALLY big, cushion doesn't exist.
they are both playing in the same table. if our tables have bigger pockets then Jimmy should have won much easier but of course Efren Reyes the best player in world won.. swallow that lmao...
IF it's so easy why am I not seeing you on TV. They both playing the same table and balls. You shoot hard enough and ball goes around the table some time you get lucky and it bumps enough balls and one falls. That's 9 ball, which requires no call shots.
again, when am I going to see you on TV it the Pockets are SO BIG. They are big cause the Players are so good. Snooker and Chinese pool are played on snooker style tables the rest of the world plays on 8 ball tables. Would the pockets be to big on 3 cushion billiards table?
+R Mo not sure what your point is because he shot that straight in the pocket he didn't shoot a slop shot. he cheated the pocket.
All i can say is...there must be a winner! Both are great players! If you ask Efren, he won because he was lucky...a humble person!
This Kris Spala talks utter shyte. He must have been hallucinating on some drug when he saw Reyes beat Ronnie. LOL!!
one of the most amazing pool shots in the games history easily, no matter who its shot by
If Jimmy White won this game they would be celebrating. since he did not, they go "oh you know what mate this game is for drunk people snooker is better"
+Afonso Virtuosa oi ! wot ?
***** who was that snooker player and who was this supposed "best" that he beat ? Efren beat ronnie in a game of snooker in thailand before and he wasn't just beaten he was beaten in fashion.
***** "So remind me when you get some intelligence." oh please what are you 12 ? is this suppose to get me mad or something ? well then let me correct you there ( given that i'm not even good in English as tagalog is my native language ) , the proper word you are looking for is "proof" or "evidence". if by any chance i am missing any information that does not mean i lack intelligence it only means i lack details.
second, even if by your calculation, ronnie was 15, he was still a more experienced player than efren in snooker at the time. given that as you snooker fans claim, snooker is totally different from a game of pool. but well im guessing now you would claim different.
+J3AN P3T3R Who are "they" then?
+J3AN P3T3R Jimmy White used to be pretty drunk when playing snooker, and even more so when not playing snooker.
A passionate and exciting match between two champions of the game.
commentator is really irritating (once again)
Nick Inzomniac he's still is....
A pool player can never go that close to a snooker game but snooker player can master both.
sher lock not true. Ronnie even said Efren would have given him a run for his money.
@@alvinator5203 he is so generous thats why but Efren can never come close to snooker playing agaist Ronnie
I love pool. Effren Reyes is a fantastic player! Bottom line though, snooker is a harder game. Period! The most intelligent comment on here points out that snooker players can be competitive in pool tournaments with little practice whereas I could NEVER see effren entering a top 32 snooker tournament and having a hope in hell. FACT! I've watched and played both games for years at a decent club level and for me watching Ronnie in full flow is the most mind blowing sight in any cue sport. Effren is great but I find myself impressed mainly with his consistency rather than skill. On those pool tables you can miss by half an inch and the pocket still takes the ball. 9 ball the positional play is pretty straight forward and the tables are smaller, much smaller. They are 2 different games and each brings its own skill set but snooker is HARDER. Lol at the guy claiming the 147's and saying pool is harder. I'm stroking my big fucking chin you muppet! Oh and effren never beat Ronnie in '91. More bullshit. And effren I wanna see you make a century, not saying you haven't, just wanna see some proof. Smh
Well I suppose you could make a pool table twenty feet long and go on about how it is so much harder to pocket balls on, to which I would respond......so what? That wouldn't necessarily make for a better game. Also, it should be mentioned that the top pool players often "cheat" the pocket (pick what side of it they make the ball in) on purpose. Pool and snooker are different games, requirng different strategies, and different skill sets (which in fairness you acknowledged). I'm not sure if a pool player has made a century (though I suspect they have), but then again I'm not sure that a snooker player has exceeded a 500 ball run in straight pool as Willie Mosconi did. either.
Reggie1971la Pool is an easy game, it's as simple as that, you can talk about strategies and skillsets, but it is easy, i am a very good player, but put me on a snooker table and i flop. The reality is snooker is for the gifted, i can practice and become a great pool player but no matter how much i practice snooker i will never become a century maker. Put a snooker player on a pool table and they will beat the best, put a pool player on a snooker table and they have no fucking chance, there is no argument here.
jchneo26 You are quite wrong, there is an argument and a strong one at that. Your characterization of pool as an "easy" game is laughable. You obviously don't know what you are talking about. You say you can become a great pool player, but you provide no evidence for that. Snooker players do not dominate tournament pool, nor have I heard of them being particular successful at playing the best pool players in side money action. Both snooker and pool require talent. I'm sorry but your argument isn't valid.
Reggie1971la I'd like to see a pool player enter the snooker world champs and see how far they get. There's no denying that snooker players can progress very far in pro pool tournaments, the fact that jimmy white pushed the so called greatest 9 ball player to the last frame with no previous experience is astonishing. It's quite frankly embarrassing how easy it is for these snooker players. Just look at the mosconi cups of the 90s, the European teams used snooker players and they would beat the great american 9 ball players at the time. Any half decent player would be able to at least take a frame off a pro in 9 ball, never in snooker. Case closed.
curmanify If you think that a single close match between Jimmy White and Efren Reyes is a reliable measure of how they compare as nine-ball players then you are mistaken. If a full-time snooker player were to play a long session against an elite nine-ball player, they would almost certainly get demolished. A snooker player could win a race to 9 set here and there, but I can scarcely remember a single example of one winning a men's 9-ball tournament. As for pool players not winning a set of snooker against a professional, there is an obvious reason for that. Snooker is very seldom played in the United States, while pool is conversely much more popular in Britain. Pool players don't really play the game. It should also be mentioned that the European teams' strongest players are professional pool players.
Aside from all that, you do realize that 9-ball isn't the only game played on a pool table, right? In a race to 150 you would very seldom see a snooker player beat a professional pool player in straight pool. Increase the number of balls it takes to win, and the snooker player's chances further diminish. Then there is one-pocket, where each player is assigned only one corner pocket that they can make balls in. I could imagine a snooker player playing a one-pocket champion twenty games and being quite fortunate to win one.
No, Efren is secretly one of the best snooker players in the world. He played it regularly in the Philippines as it is a big gambling game there as well as Russian Pyramids. He once beat Ronnie O' and White at snooker and consistently ran 100 plus. Although he doesn't play snooker anymore, all the top snooker players will acknowledge his skill at the game.
pool is not a sport... snooker requires talent. pool is a pub game....which is why there is zero money in pool...and millions in snooker.
beniteztheconman You must be joking. No money in pool? According to AZB, pool players consistently rank higher than snooker players for annual earnings. www.azbilliards.com/people/azb-money-leaderboard/2015/all/
***** Utter nonsense. There is absolutely no money in pool. $100k is the top...LMFAO...snooker players would not get out of bed for that. The losing semi finalist in the world championship gets $100k ...and that is just one tournament. Your list is the pool worlds entire season! Comedy game.. it is not a sport.The only pool players who can make money..are hustlers...mostly in Philippines.
Stephen Hendry..Steve Davis..Ronnie O'Sulivan...to name but THREE multi millionaire snooker players.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_snooker_millionaires
thats because there is nothing to do in your shitty country but watch snooker...so sick of you gap tooth fucks saying how awesome snooker is..
madmaxxmayhem I hate snooker..was just making a point ...which as usual I was proven totally right.
ah bless the poor little third world peasant.
And you guys wonder why the rest of the world hates on the USA?
*points @ madmaxxmayhem *
Both of these players are winners, you can't possibly get better value for money than watching them ....no loser just slightly and I mean slightly one cigarette paper width between them, thanks guys
No, not the greatest player in the history of pool, just one of the greatest, please give me a break. Some of the great ones have never been heard of.
Oh well, whatever rocks your boat but you know what opinions are like.
To ease your tensions of envy and jealousy, forward your concern and opinion to the federation , SUBJECT: Reyes is not the G.O.A.T.
bigdadday bubblejomay ask any knowledgeable pool player and he will tell you that Efren is the best all-around player to ever pick up a cue.
I agree, but he is the the person they know.
he won titles many titles and his legendary Z-shot
4:30 , the best 9-ball win I've ever seen!
no match at all with your snooker player..... thousands miles away from the magnificent performance of the world professional pool champion ... no match at all..... sorry..................................................
Jimmy White is a retired snooker player, and has never really had any pool experience apart from this, yet he made the mighty "magician" shit himself with his double of the cushion and good break, so a person who retired from a different sport (which is harder and requires more nerve and skill) was only narrowly beaten by the top player of another different sport, what do you think that says about how hard the game is?
hahaha the mighty magician, you have no idea do you, your magician was pushed all the way by a guy who does not play pool, but the game of the gods they call snooker. Pool is piss easy, efren has played all his life and will never match the skill level of a snooker player, i bet if jimmy had tried he would have destroyed him, but it would be embarrasing for your so called champion
jchneo26, jimmy is an average player compared to a world champion of billiards. he has been playing with so many famous and great American billiards and not to mention the other parts of the world. what about your snooker players, do they compete in very corners of the world/ I do not think so they play snooker of themselves, lousy. we have to admit that jimmy had survived in that game because of his luck. he had never showed any extraordinary pockets, that one simple mistakes you would lose the game.and that is why, he is called magician and world champion. I advice you to review the video again..
you said jimmy had never played billiards before and yet he was already retired from playing snooker. why did he accept to have a game with the magician, probably because of the money. for your information, if you can play pool, you can play any type pool games because one of the basic principle is to pocket the balls so anybody can play pool. like what I said to jchneo26, jimmy had never displayed any phenominal pockets during that time, he had been so lucky that he survived in that game. and probably when you were watching that video you had thought that jimmy was going to win, sad he did not make it.. money and popularity that jimmy had urged him to have a game with him though he knew that he would never win.
Jimmy didn't agree to play him, he had to dos it was a tournament
before I write, let me give an applause to all Snooker players here. Congratulation to Daryl Peach for winning the 2007 World Pool Championship in Manila by defeating Filipino Roberto Gomez. Until now, Daryl remain the champion, reigning almost for two years, probably the longest in modern Pool history. He was so good, he defeated the defending champion Ronato Alcano and Philippine No. 2 Francisco Bustamante. He was the first British to win in world 9 ball tournament. Can he defend it?
this is why pool sucks as a sport, you can play flawlessly and still lose, theres to much luck involved, and if luck is a major factor then it should not be a sport.
+john tucker Don't get me wrong I respect the skill the players have I just think the format does not work fairly as a sport.
+john tucker I saw flaws in Jimmy White's play, even in this short clip. Same with Efren. Efren was just the more skilled player and able to make the shots.
homegr0wn clearly you didn't get what i just said...
+john tucker Pool sucks as a sport? LOL. There is far less luck involved than skill. If it was mostly luck I would win my fair shair of tournaments...and trust me I don't. What guys like Reyes are able to do is simply amazing. And luck is a very small part of it.
dud, all games with sticks and balls has some amount of luck, the problem is the green horns relay on luck while the seasoned players produce it. Only unskilled players are unlucky.
Ronnie has said in interviews that he likes Efren. Said he likes the way he plays and that he makes it look so easy.
Alot of professionals have that humility to where they can admit a player being better or calling a player their favorite. Efren has said that Mike Sigel is the player he looks up to and he considers Mike to be the best player in the world. It doesn't make you a bad player to admit someone is better, there's always a bigger fish.
how does this only have 1k likes?
Great Sportsmanship ... Wonderful guys.
great thriller! loved the bank from reyes, absolutely amazing run that was from there
this is the 2nd best shot {2 ball bank} and unbelievable match ever! in the history of pool.remember the match betwwen strickland the two rail bank?unbelievable!!!! go efren! mabuhay ang filipino! make as proud!
Though this is not the finals, for me this is the 'finals'.
They pretty much are. The potting dynamics in both are the same, except Snooker is much much harder. If Ronnie put his mind to pool, he would win the pool world championship. It's easier to transition to pool from snooker, than the other way round.
Orichalon99 your wrong... There is no facts or evidenced that snooker pro player won championship in pool ... If that so.. It is very rare....so that its not easy..
Jimmy showed a lot of sportsmanship during the hand shake!! I wonder did he write down that banking lesson Efren give him on the 2 ball? :P
Any world pool player champion can also do all the tricks he does on the table. But none of them has the “GUTS” to do it during a tournament. Only Efren “Bata” Reyes has the BALLS!!! Definitely the “Magician.”
Sir Bata Reyes, napakahusay ninyo at ako po ay isa sa milyong milyong tagahanga sa paglalaro ng bilyar. Pinatunayan ninyo na napakahusay nyo sa mga pakunwari na marunong mag-laro ng nang bilyar, ngunit ang kanilang laro ay snooker
it may be the best shot of the tourney for jimmy boie but the breaks are for bata.love when michaela tabb smiles
I have watched these tournaments for years and have made every shot I have seen the pros make and have made some they would not even try.
So have I, but I'm not a pro. It's all mental...if I made every shot I'm supposed to make I'd be right up there with Earl and SVB, but I'm not. The difference is consistency and focus, and the top pros are WAY more consistent and focused than guys like me, who make amazing shots but tend to get a little out of line here and there....and then lose to the pros.
agreed
bigdadday bubblejomay of course lol almost every shot the pros make anyone can make because of cue control and positioning which makes the shots easy
Can you do it every tournament? No, hence you're not a pro.
Is that the legendary Sid Waddell commentating...?...!
One other thing the reason why Davis said that Reyers would have to "hit it fairly hard" was because it would reduce the exit angle of the cushion. If you double a ball hard on a snooker table it will straighten up especially on the second bounce.
4:56...WOW. What an amazing shot
I think the general view with snooker is that the pockets are tighter and so there is less margin for error. Hit the cushion with the ball you intend potting just before the jaw of the pocket on a snooker table it it usually doesn't go in and so your aim has to be quite precise, but it seems you can be quite a way out with you aim on a pool table where the ball hits the cushion just before the pocket and so changes direction but still drops into the pocket anyway.
Also, Efren had a lot more pressure on him than jimmy since it was held in the UK. Pressure, ease of mind, controlling your emotions is extremely important in pool cuz its such a precise game.
Having recently started playing cue sports again, Snooker is ridiculously harder. Pool does have some tactics that you have to master, but the pots are so easy compared to snooker, I can get 90% of pool shots, in snooker I probably pot 60%
In an interview with Darryl Peach he was asked: Who, in your opinion, was the greatest ever to pick up a cue (snooker, pool, whatever)?
Snooker: Ronnie O'Sullivan
Pool: Efren Reyes
Overall: Efren because I saw him play Jimmy White and Ronnie O'Sullivan 6 years ago, at snooker best of 5 for �100 each if I remember rightly: he beat both of them with his pool cue, and he made 3 centuries!! Now that's special.
See link for this interview: 9ballpool.co.uk/interviews/daryl_peach_240604.html
Bollocks
The greatest cueist ever (billiards) was, without a doubt, the Australian, Walter Lindrum.
Representing the Phillipines and playing professionally are two completely different things.
In a best of 9 against any player on snooker's Main Tour, I don't think Efren would have a chance.
I think Efren would agree, too!
@wellredpat Well said. The snooker vs pool debate is a non-argument and both can be appreciated for different reasons and it a a great privilege watching the masters at each discipline. In both games what continues to amaze me is how steady the top players are under the huge pressure of expectations of crowd and commentators and the glare of TV lights.
What a match from this two genius... The shot at 4:40 is awesome !!!
Jim is so lucky . He didn't suffer the death of sitting on the chair for a long time waiting for his turn.
While other brought along their tents to sleep in for a while and brick games to pass the time if he could ever get his turn.
Davis to Sid: "Don't ask me, I'm a snooker player". Great humility Steve, but not quite what the person who booked you as a commentator was expecting...haha
You're right, I stand corrected. They abolished that two years ago. But my point still stands: there is more money in snooker than in pool. And furthermore, since snooker is a more difficult game than pool (sorry to have to fart in the elevator, but it is), and if Efren was interested in his historical reputation, he would have to prove himself in snooker tournaments against the likes of Ronnnie and the rest. Snooker players test themselves in pool tournaments; why do we seldom see the reverse?
fighting alone to win the game THE MASTER never be destructed i salute you sir EFREN REYES
Would love to see the whole match - as great a fan as I've always been of Jimmy White, it seems like a miracle he came so close to beating, of all players, Efren Reyes. Or were there more flukes like that kick-bank 5 onto 9. Certainly, the table doesn't look as if it wasn't breaking well, and the pockets (watch that 2 into the head corner pocket!) are easy even by pool standards, so every factor in favour of the experienced position, safety and kick shot specialist Reyes, one would think.
@jayrecto Sorry where did you get this information from? I can't find anything of this description on his wiki. Apparently he was never a snooker player.
*Went from one of the greatest shots EVER... to a choke.*