If Candace found the grappling gun when they swapped bodies she could’ve also found the pamphlet that explains what happens when your host family finds out
@@Jegcopothe again Candace isn’t too fond of Perry, so I feel the moment Candace rubs her two brain cells together and stops trying to bust her brothers she could actually go blabbering to her family fully knowing the consequences and getting one of three pests out of her life.
@@Jegcopo if she knows that perry can understand English then why don't she try to talk to it or something (Peoples talk to their animals all of the time, it doesn't seem crazy to me. Especially if you know that it understand English and potentially a secret agent then you would probably want to talk something to it)
@@Jegcopo would the second dimension movie be considered Canon? If so I would also like to point out the fact that in that movie i can quote Phineas asking Perry if he scoops his own litter box to which he nods. At this point it would become obvious to the family that there is some intelligence to Perry as the family could ask itself “Who is scooping Perry’s litter box?” If nobody says they did it then it would immediately point to perry as nobody would go out of their way to scoop some random family pet’s litter box.
Never not be? Seems to be like you've been hit by Doofenshmirtz's double negative-inator (from the episode "Great Balls Of Water)!! I apologize if I hurt your feelings when I pointed out the grammar mistake, or maybe the way I said it. I had absolutely no intention of harming feelings.
@@jordanshepetofsky2677Double negative may be improper, but it is not grammatically incorrect; even if it was you can tell what they mean. In some other language double negative is even part of proper grammar. Spanish is one. If you wanted it to sound more proper, they essentially say "There wil never come a time where this isn't my favorite quote."
Honestly under this theory I would expect Candace to keep quiet because she knows he's trying to save the Tri-State Area and has saved her and her family. She knows he's doing it for a good cause so she doesn't say anything to keep his secret. Unlike her brothers that do elaborate and crazy things for their own enjoyment.
We're supposed to root for Phineas and Ferb? They sign contracts despite KNOWING they're underage ("Aren't you a bit young to be doing blah blah blah?" "Yes, yes we are"), they've caused numerous public disturbances, built some of the most hazardous contraptions, caused vandalism (Mount Rushmore as a prime example), have crashed several events and festivals... if I'm honest, I wonder how real any of this stuff is? Theory for another day?
@@sukaisage They also rope her into it and she usually ends up getting hurt or something bad happening to her, right? All the more reason to get them under control. And I agree with the OP. She knows he is stopping a local villain, and has saved their family many times. ESPECIALLY after she learns the truth and starts paying attention. So I'm willing to put money down on her not wanting to reveal him as a way to help him. The same that happens with Danny, in Danny Phantom, and his sister finding out his secret without him knowing and subtly tries helping him out, distracting their family when he has to go ghost mode. Only Candace isn't as involved with keeping his secret from others, just keeping it to herself.
I like to think that Ferb knows too and just hasn't told anyone because... he's Ferb. My evidence for this is the episode "Ready for the Bettys" where Phineas and Ferb find Perry's lair and Phineas assumes Ferb made it all, and Ferb keeps trying to tell him he didn't. Ferb is surely smart enough to put together the platypus-themed secret agent lair under their yard with Perry's behavior throughout the show. Then, in the movie "Across the Second Dimension," he also doesn't express any genuine surprise when Perry's identity as an agent is revealed. Of course, that could be because he's famously unemotive, but it does seem a bit odd that he never verbally or nonverbally seems at all fazed by this reveal. Also, at the end of the show he dates Vanessa, so if at no other point, surely by then he would have figured it out because he would be spending a lot of time with the Doofenshmirtzes
That moment in "Leave the Busting to Us" somehow never occured to me lol. I totally like the idea of Candace and Stacy both indirectly trolling eachother by pretening they do not know. It is even more funny when you realise that they both know Vanessa This theory also makes the end of Where's Perry look like a desperate bust attempt lol, also Ferb totally knows something too.
I honestly think Phineas is the only one who is truely oblivious. Linda (mom): shows signs that hint that she knows what phineas and ferb are up to. Lawrence (Dad): Has helped Phineas and Ferb and given direct permission multiple times Candace: knows what phineas and ferb do and maybe perry too. Stacy: Knows perry's secret and has also seen what phineas and ferb do. Ferb: hinted to be mysterious and knows more than he let's on. (there's an episode where phineas and ferb are sent to Perry's lab and phineas keeps giving ferb all the credit despite ferb knowing it wasn't either of them.) Phineas: while being the brains of their everyday activities he doesn't even notice Isabella's love for him and mostly passes things off without thinking too deep into it.
@@ZUnknownFox Phineas is the one constantly multitasking each and every day when it relates to the tools, construction, quality, and efficiency of his and Ferb's invention(s).
@@ZUnknownFox Phineas couldn't even tell that Isabella has a crush on him for 10 years, I think the less believable thought that Perry is a secret agent can escape him too lol
@@ZUnknownFoxI mean, Linda _did_ get a _potted plant_ fired from OWCA without even _knowing_ she did so, because she crashed into the coat rack or whatever and there was a paper hat hanging that landed on the plant. It either happened because she bumped into the rack or because of the door being slammed shut
I personally think the “mysterious force” that candace talks about in the first movie, is actually just Perry. Candace was simply trying to avoid mentioning perry, so she basically just used the term, “mysterious force.”
this is canonically explained in milo murphy's law. phineas and ferb have a sort of anti-murphy's law, that makes everything go right for them in the end. it's a literal mysterious force ensuring they don't get caught
I like to think she does know about Perry, and Monogram, and Doof, but just thinks it's another of Phineas' and Ferb's things. As for why she never tells, well, she may be a snitch but she likes to have evidence in place before she tells, and she's never had any evidence of Perry's double-life.
I always thought it would be more believable that Ferb knew about Perry. On Phineas’s birthday, Ferb wears a secret agent hat and sneaks off like Perry. There was also the one episode where the brothers went on a secret agent mission and Phineas thought that Ferb built everything and set the whole thing up
I think it is the mixture of both theories. The one about she is too focusing on busting her brothers and that she is on thin ice already when it comes to busting them. So even if she really knows what is going in the matters regarding Perry's other identity, she cannot do anything about it. The theory about her memory from the whole hallucination and her dream based on her memory is 50/50 to me because in the end, it is ultimately up to Candace to decide what she just saw. And considering what she went through, I won't be surprised if she dismissed it as nothing but a fantasy in her head that her brain created in an attempt to persuade her to stop busting her brothers. But I also won't be surprised if she did remembere them very well as well. P.S: Remember everyone, it's just a theory. A PHINEAS AND FERB THEORY!
Or, another possibility: maybe Candace actually cares too much about Perry and puts on a mean persona against him in order to keep him from knowing what she knows so he won’t be taken from them. It’s entirely possible. Maybe all the meat brick comments were just a harsh moody teen cover up for her deep love and care for Perry.
it could be she told stacey first and she told him to never tell everyone. that they would loose perry or her memories. she has been shown that, despite her busting nature, she loves her brothers and wouldn't want to hurt them that way. the episode that perry goes "missing" because he is reassigned, she is overcome with guilt. she doesn't actually want to cause that kind of pain to her brothers, she loves them. she just wants to bust them
I mean, I would like to believe that, but Perry is just clearly going to his job at slushy burger to save up enough money to buy an ultra rare, 9 horse power, 30 gigahertz, gaming pc! Duh!
I think Candace considers the secret agent aspect of Perry to be one of her hallucinations. Remember that she hallucinates the Zebra that calls her Kevin.
My personal guess is that she does full well know Perry’s secret, but it’s a bit too crazy for her to even try to tackle the situation at hand so she just leaves it be
Oh my God, a theory that isn't too farfetched and that actually makes sense?? I'm still really surprised, I've never put all of the pieces together They should totally expand this in the new seasons, and also make use of the fact that both Stacy and Vanessa know about Perry But now that I think of it, shouldn't Doof have known about Candace since she fought her in that season 1 episode?
I really hope the revival will focus on Perry's secret a bit more. Especially on his homelife, that was rarely explored. I would personally love to see the Flynn-Fletchers either actively try to find out where Perry goes every day; or even start suspecting there's something weird/unusual going on with their platypus - only to be later thrown off the scent by Perry himself, perhaps. I've given this some thought as well while writing the video, and I suppose Candace simply looks like an average teenage girl to Doof, just like Doof probably looks like any generic adult to Candace. Even though Candace saw Doof in the Badbeard episode and Doof saw her in the body switch episode, neither one of them probably paid too much attention to how the other person looked. We all remember how in 'Make Play' the "average teenage girl" looked exactly like Candace. She's the picture of anonymity, apparently xD
If she found Perry’s Grappling Gun, maybe she also found the papers that explain what happens when the owners find out their pet is a secret agent and actually IS keeping the secret because she loves her brothers!
What if the cranky obsessive and slightly harsh persona Candace puts on is exactly that? What if she’s a brilliant inventor who secretly is impressed with her brothers and studies their work so she can secretly improve Perry’s equipment and gadgets and she secretly desires to show all 3 of her boys unrestrained love but she sacrifices that to keep Perry in their family?
At the end of the ballad of Badbeard the Grandma says it's not the Orange moss but was actually the Blue moss which was what made up the ground of Candace's tent.
There is more evidence of this, for example: when Candace of the with a children's rocket went through the Doofenshmirtz towers, she had to see how she fights Peepe
In the 2nd dimension and they're all being held by robots Candace: "ok, i think i understand the whole perry is a secret agent thing, strangely thats the most normal thing thats happened today...."
Don't Candace and perry have a moment in one of the movie specials where she gives him some kind of nod. I feel like there's an understanding between them.
If she had found the tools when she was in Perry’s body, then there’s a chance she also found the pamphlet of what happens if the secret comes out. Meaning she would keep her knowledge a secret as well when it comes to Perry’s job and perry is keeping an eye on her in order to not have her spill the beans on perry. Meaning her bothers are fair game when it comes to busting.
another reason why candace could keep secret about perry's secret agent life could be that she suspects that if word got out, it could put them in danger, shes seen the danger doofensmirts can cause, plus, what spy movie DOESNT hae that "protect your secret for your family's" sake theme to it, shes bound to have seen at least a few of those and is going along with that theme
You know i have seen the episode where is Perry so many times and i have never thought of that little detail with candace in the end thank you for pointing it out
Basically, everything you said about Candace not really caring about Perry's double life and focusing on only one thing she's been trying to do for years is the only the correct theory accurate to her character hands-down.
As a pole I always thought the OWCA acronym is specyficly sounds like that in Poland. Becouse OWCA. Is a type of animal. OWCA in polish means sheep so we just have that Phineas and Ferb show with secret animal agency called Sheep lol
Here's my own take on why I think she doesn't tell anyone about Agent P. While she herself has shown to not be too fond of the "meat brick", I think (like others have considered) she would have stumbled across the pamphlet, alongside the grapple gun as you pointed out, at some point while she was in Perry's body. Thus she'd probably come to learn the consequences of telling her family the truth. While I think Candace probably considered exposing Perry for a moment, she ultimately decided against it because she knows how much it would hurt Phineas and Ferb in the long run since it's no secret how attached they are to Perry. She probably couldn't stand to see their reaction if their beloved platypus was taken away from them forever and it was all her fault. Even with her own low opinion of the Platypus, she does still care quite a lot about her brothers. Plus she only wants to bust her brothers and prove she isn't crazy to her mother, not emotionally devastate them by ripping their beloved pet away just because of knowledge of his secret. So she keeps it quiet for their sake, probably as a silent way of returning the favor for all the things her brothers have done for her and/or because she knows, even with how much they annoy her, that Phineas and Ferb don't deserve something like that happening to them. That's just my take anyway.
I think Candace only knows it subconsciously, and for the gadgets, I wouldn’t be surprised if the vast majority of them are in his Lair when not in use
In the title sequence, candace is playing a whack a mole machine but instead of moles it's her brothers and PERRY. It obviously symbolizes her trying to bust them, but why else would perry be there if not because she knows?
Perry keeps his hat in hammerspace, he’s literally in a cartoon. Like cartoon characters can pull big wooden hammers out of their pocket, Perry can pulll the hat out of his a
If candace is busting because she is absolutely panicked about her brothers endangering themselves, it is not impossible for candace to not want to tell about perry working for O.W.C.A for the sole reason she will be seen as not just crazy at first, but assuming the agents come in and take perry, pheneas and ferb who treat perry much better because they care about him would absolutely start disliking candace. We saw that pheneas can be cold to candace at times in a marvel based episode.
I'd say that Candace secretly knew about Perry's secret up until the entire cast that witnessed Perry as a secret agent got their memories erased by the Amnesia Inator in "Across the 2nd Dimension". The only time canonically and based on the timeline that people have put together over the years with subtle callbacks, she sees Agent P again is in "Where's Perry?" This is in part with "The Ballad of Badbeard", "Leave the Busting to Us" (taking place two weeks after "The Ballad of Badbeard"), "Does this Duckbill make me look fat" (taking place a week before "Leave the Busting to Us" and a week after "The Ballad of Badbeard") and "Wizard of Odd" (taking place 18 days after "Leave the Busting to Us"), Leaving all these instances to take place before "Across the 2nd Dimension", highly recommend The Glad in Gladiators timeline videos (th-cam.com/video/Hxm3NWYQYLc/w-d-xo.html) on the matter. The events of "Where's Perry" basically triggered her memory of all the instances she saw Perry before and why she is so insistent on talking about it while the others shrug it off. We can only assume that she got zapped with it again after the fact since this is never brought up again to this very day. Great theory video that makes more and more sense once you think about it.
I don’t know if she knew, because as you pointed out to be very good evidence I don’t know because in that dimension movie, do you know where they went into an alternate dimension and Perry’s secret was revealed Candace wasn’t like “I knew it I knew!” idk maybe she did know
i could see candace having brought the idea of secret agent perry, a few times with stacy, who eventually cracked, and revealed that she know he was a secret agent, after taking advantage of candaces , quintisential teenage girl, and get her to the super secret best friends never tell anyone else under any other situations promise, so candace refuses to refrence it at all due to her, tendancy to take things to the extreme
Buena teoría:) Y espero que retomen lo de que stacy sabe el secreto de perry en las siguientes temporadas. Ver los capítulos de candace era una genialidad con la voz de Christine byrd le daba como algo especial a su personalidad.
I can tell you that you have not see Phineas and Ferb: Across the 2nd Dimension. In the movie, it was said that they would have to get their minds wiped to keep Parry, after knowing that he is a secret agent and they do. O.W.C.A would have want to check all their memories to see what they know enable to get ride of anything that is pertaining to Perry being a secret agent. So, Candice doesn't know that Perry is a secret agent after that. But I could be wrong for all I know
I can tell you I did watch the movie, I'm a huge Phineas and Ferb nerd after all x) The Amnesia-Inator used in the movie was used to only erase everyone's memories of the past day/of the whole second dimension adventure, and not all the memories related to Perry being a secret agent. Phineas even says "So our choice is to either forget the best day ever, forget the greatest adventure we've ever had and forget meeting Agent P, or remember today but never see Perry again?", so I believe it's implied that only their memories of the past 24 hours or so would be erased, meaning Candace would retain all of her past Perry-related memories
My theory is that she doesn’t talk about it, because not only will she sound more insane, because a lot of people know about Phineas and Ferbs abilities. Like most of the kids and teens in the neighborhood, as well as sports teams and entire alien races and more. She doesn’t know anyone who knows Perry’s secret. She doesn’t know Stacy knows. So it would be really hard to convince anyone about it. And she wouldn’t get anything out of it, unlike busting her brothers where at least she would get justice where the brothers can get away with everything, while she can’t get away with anything. Meanwhile what would the mother even do if they figured out Perry, ground the pet? How would Candice get anything from it? By starting to mention it the only thing she would gain is getting back the trust of her family that she lost by mentioning it in the first place. And also Perry has a pamphlet of the consequences of their family finding out, so if we are using the body swap episode to figure out Perry had the grapple, then she could have found that too. Busting the brothers would be much easier and more rewarding to her. And it’s probably way more frustrating to her that she can’t bust the brothers because so many people already know and the brothers aren’t even trying to hide what they’re doing.
The minute she decides to dig deeper than the surface (watching her brothers) to figure out exactly why the inventions disappear, is the minute OWCA will have to be on high alert. Perry might even have Stacey attempt to subvert Candace to lure her away, but Candace will still at least get close
My daughter says that Phineas knows Perry is a secret agent in the show due to the song "Curtain Call". She says he says he got his mind erased but still remembers Isabella's kiss.
I think the evidence you've collected is really good and kinda damming, but I think it's just too out of character for Candace, queen of neurosis, specifically to be as chill about it. But extremely entertaining video
I have a theory. It doesn't have anything going for it buti can't find anything to refute it. Dr. Doofenshmirtz cannot be Phineas' dad. Vanessa and Candace are roughly the same age, i don't think Heinz would cheat on Cherlene, and it's confirmed they only ever went on one date. But there is still a Doofenshmirtz left. Roger. Roger doesn't intentionally mess with Heinz but things sort of happen. I don't figure Heinz knows (If he did it would be a backstory, see Huge Hands Hanz). With Rogers Doofenshmirtz genetics it would explain Phineas' head.
You also have to take into account when Heinz and Cherlene divorced, which i place shortly after Phineas and Ferb pick up Perry. As for when Candace and Vanessa were born, i place those a few years (2-4) after Heinz and Linda's date, as it would take Heinz a bit of time to get back in the dating scene.
In the movie perry pulled out a leaflet that says what happens when the hosts family finds out Candace probably found it and doesn't want to upset her brothers
I love cartoon theories Don’t worry about them. Getting elaborate dude you have a great imagination.
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A moment would have been nice in a later episodes of a later seasons where candace would casually say to perry something in the lines of "Don't worry, I won't blow your cover", with perry silently being reliefed, maby with an appreciating nod.
This makes sense but I think this may have been overlooked. A lot of things in the show are. Like the time they got stuck on the island and the milo murphy law cross-over.
11:1711:1811:1911:2011:21 Fedora Perry my girl🥺☺️🥰😍!!!!!!! I swear to god that I missed seeing her different videos than my own videos of her🥺. She is such a fedora tipping queen👑🤠! If you guys are wondering who Fedora Perry is, she is my Perry OC from my channel☺️! She is Perry’s sister and hence by name being feddora, she loves tipping her fedora! She made her first appearance in the episode Phineas and Ferb Get Busted. When she speaks in English, her voice is cool, calm, collected, and high pitched cuz she’s a female to sound very cute cuz in the Perry Family, she is also considered to be the cute one😉! When I’m rping her, she is voiced by Tiffany Westfall/Tiffany Hefflinger(the actress who played Perry in Phineas and Ferb The Best Live Tour Ever in 2011 to 2012) and when she is singing in my videos of her, she is voiced by Christina Vee. FP is also a miraculous holder cuz she uses both the ladybug and mouse miraculouses. With the help of her kwamis, Tikki and Mullo, she is able to transform into FedoraBug when using her ladybug miraculous which her main miraculous and MultiFedoraMouse when using the mouse miraculous. If she wants to use both of her miraculouses at the same time, she unifies both miraculouses turning into MultiFedoraBugMouse. She is also my top voted Perry OC on the Phineas and Ferb Amino.
But hold on a minute, weren't Candice's memory about Perry erased with everyone else's in the 2nd Dimension movie? I don't remember when it happens on the timeline, but if later, her knowing about it at some point doesn't really matter.
She could’ve also found one of his entrances that Perry closed such the tube behind the painting or owca did know she found out but decided not to do anything bc Linda doesnt believe her about her brothers inventions and would think she’s lying about that too
I knew someone would eventually ask this question... Well, I would probably enter a thumb-wrestling competition to make the most of my new opposable thumbs :D
6:36 There is also possibility that Perry was not carrying his arsenal all them time,but just was grabbing it every time he would go to a misson. Like are you having your work tools all the time in your pocket? And as secret agent Perry would risk that some of those devices would out him if they accidently fallen out of the pockets family activities.
If she found the grappling hook as you suggest during the body swap episode, she should have also found the pamphlet about relocating upon discovering his secret. (See the 2nd Dimension Movie) So she keeps its under wraps to not have Perry’s secret blown. Yes, she wants to Bust her brothers from potential harm (See how their mom was mad in the Rollercoaster Time Travel Episode & the Candace Dream within Perry’s Dream Episode). But she doesn’t want to take away their pet that they love so much, even if she finds Perry’s incognito actions annoying.
If Candace truly knows, Perry knows she knows, but Candance has a probable denialbility so he doesn't worry about her that much spilling the beans and having to memory wipe her
If Candace found the grappling gun when they swapped bodies she could’ve also found the pamphlet that explains what happens when your host family finds out
That's a possibility too, huh, she might even know more than I thought... x)
@@Jegcopothe again Candace isn’t too fond of Perry, so I feel the moment Candace rubs her two brain cells together and stops trying to bust her brothers she could actually go blabbering to her family fully knowing the consequences and getting one of three pests out of her life.
@@Jegcopo if she knows that perry can understand English then why don't she try to talk to it or something
(Peoples talk to their animals all of the time, it doesn't seem crazy to me. Especially if you know that it understand English and potentially a secret agent then you would probably want to talk something to it)
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But she knows that her family is Fond of perry.
@@Jegcopo would the second dimension movie be considered Canon? If so I would also like to point out the fact that in that movie i can quote Phineas asking Perry if he scoops his own litter box to which he nods. At this point it would become obvious to the family that there is some intelligence to Perry as the family could ask itself “Who is scooping Perry’s litter box?” If nobody says they did it then it would immediately point to perry as nobody would go out of their way to scoop some random family pet’s litter box.
"Huh? A teenage girl?"
**Dons fedora.**
"PERRY THE TEENAGE GIRL?!" will never not be my favorite quote.
Never not be? Seems to be like you've been hit by Doofenshmirtz's double negative-inator (from the episode "Great Balls Of Water)!!
I apologize if I hurt your feelings when I pointed out the grammar mistake, or maybe the way I said it.
I had absolutely no intention of harming feelings.
@@jordanshepetofsky2677pov you are chatgpt
@@jordanshepetofsky2677 What grammar mistake? That's a legitimate turn of phase. It means it is their favorite quote. Look it up.
@@jordanshepetofsky2677 Double negative != Grammar mistake
@@jordanshepetofsky2677Double negative may be improper, but it is not grammatically incorrect; even if it was you can tell what they mean. In some other language double negative is even part of proper grammar. Spanish is one. If you wanted it to sound more proper, they essentially say "There wil never come a time where this isn't my favorite quote."
Honestly under this theory I would expect Candace to keep quiet because she knows he's trying to save the Tri-State Area and has saved her and her family. She knows he's doing it for a good cause so she doesn't say anything to keep his secret. Unlike her brothers that do elaborate and crazy things for their own enjoyment.
We're supposed to root for Phineas and Ferb? They sign contracts despite KNOWING they're underage ("Aren't you a bit young to be doing blah blah blah?" "Yes, yes we are"), they've caused numerous public disturbances, built some of the most hazardous contraptions, caused vandalism (Mount Rushmore as a prime example), have crashed several events and festivals... if I'm honest, I wonder how real any of this stuff is? Theory for another day?
I've always been under the impression that she thought their activities were dangerous and wanted mom to see
@@sukaisage They also rope her into it and she usually ends up getting hurt or something bad happening to her, right? All the more reason to get them under control.
And I agree with the OP. She knows he is stopping a local villain, and has saved their family many times. ESPECIALLY after she learns the truth and starts paying attention. So I'm willing to put money down on her not wanting to reveal him as a way to help him.
The same that happens with Danny, in Danny Phantom, and his sister finding out his secret without him knowing and subtly tries helping him out, distracting their family when he has to go ghost mode. Only Candace isn't as involved with keeping his secret from others, just keeping it to herself.
wait until she realises Perry usually is the reason why all their stuff disappears befor their mom arrives x)
@@Jirodyne but there are times she ASK them to build things. We can't forget that
I like to think that Ferb knows too and just hasn't told anyone because... he's Ferb. My evidence for this is the episode "Ready for the Bettys" where Phineas and Ferb find Perry's lair and Phineas assumes Ferb made it all, and Ferb keeps trying to tell him he didn't. Ferb is surely smart enough to put together the platypus-themed secret agent lair under their yard with Perry's behavior throughout the show. Then, in the movie "Across the Second Dimension," he also doesn't express any genuine surprise when Perry's identity as an agent is revealed. Of course, that could be because he's famously unemotive, but it does seem a bit odd that he never verbally or nonverbally seems at all fazed by this reveal. Also, at the end of the show he dates Vanessa, so if at no other point, surely by then he would have figured it out because he would be spending a lot of time with the Doofenshmirtzes
Doof becomes a good guy not long after the summer is over, so Perry might not be there very often
@@irok1oh, I doubt Perry would stop visiting Doof.
@@irok1 In Milo Murphy’s Law, it’s shown that Perry continues visiting Doof
Ferb doesn’t have a lot of dialogue
*plottwist:* Perry helped Ferb to get together with Vanessa
That moment in "Leave the Busting to Us" somehow never occured to me lol. I totally like the idea of Candace and Stacy both indirectly trolling eachother by pretening they do not know. It is even more funny when you realise that they both know Vanessa
This theory also makes the end of Where's Perry look like a desperate bust attempt lol, also Ferb totally knows something too.
I honestly think Phineas is the only one who is truely oblivious.
Linda (mom): shows signs that hint that she knows what phineas and ferb are up to.
Lawrence (Dad): Has helped Phineas and Ferb and given direct permission multiple times
Candace: knows what phineas and ferb do and maybe perry too.
Stacy: Knows perry's secret and has also seen what phineas and ferb do.
Ferb: hinted to be mysterious and knows more than he let's on. (there's an episode where phineas and ferb are sent to Perry's lab and phineas keeps giving ferb all the credit despite ferb knowing it wasn't either of them.)
Phineas: while being the brains of their everyday activities he doesn't even notice Isabella's love for him and mostly passes things off without thinking too deep into it.
@@ZUnknownFox Phineas is the one constantly multitasking each and every day when it relates to the tools, construction, quality, and efficiency of his and Ferb's invention(s).
@@SpFlash1523 and?
@@ZUnknownFox Phineas couldn't even tell that Isabella has a crush on him for 10 years, I think the less believable thought that Perry is a secret agent can escape him too lol
@@ZUnknownFoxI mean, Linda _did_ get a _potted plant_ fired from OWCA without even _knowing_ she did so, because she crashed into the coat rack or whatever and there was a paper hat hanging that landed on the plant. It either happened because she bumped into the rack or because of the door being slammed shut
I personally think the “mysterious force” that candace talks about in the first movie, is actually just Perry. Candace was simply trying to avoid mentioning perry, so she basically just used the term, “mysterious force.”
Theory: Perry intentionally makes Phineas and ferb's creations disappear.
@@the11382 tbh it seems reasonable
So she made a places to worship Perry?
this is canonically explained in milo murphy's law. phineas and ferb have a sort of anti-murphy's law, that makes everything go right for them in the end. it's a literal mysterious force ensuring they don't get caught
Its the phineas and ferb effect. Reverse murphy's law.
I like to think she does know about Perry, and Monogram, and Doof, but just thinks it's another of Phineas' and Ferb's things. As for why she never tells, well, she may be a snitch but she likes to have evidence in place before she tells, and she's never had any evidence of Perry's double-life.
That is until the movie "Into The 4th Dimension", where everyone eventually does find out.
@@StarlightWarriorGamerJames it’s called “Across the Second Dimension”……….. Lol ❤️
I always thought it would be more believable that Ferb knew about Perry. On Phineas’s birthday, Ferb wears a secret agent hat and sneaks off like Perry. There was also the one episode where the brothers went on a secret agent mission and Phineas thought that Ferb built everything and set the whole thing up
Not to mention he has a crush on the daughter of Perry's nemesis.
Imagine if they actually do something with this in the new seasons of Phineas and Ferb along with Stacey
I wish 😍
I think it is the mixture of both theories. The one about she is too focusing on busting her brothers and that she is on thin ice already when it comes to busting them. So even if she really knows what is going in the matters regarding Perry's other identity, she cannot do anything about it. The theory about her memory from the whole hallucination and her dream based on her memory is 50/50 to me because in the end, it is ultimately up to Candace to decide what she just saw. And considering what she went through, I won't be surprised if she dismissed it as nothing but a fantasy in her head that her brain created in an attempt to persuade her to stop busting her brothers. But I also won't be surprised if she did remembere them very well as well.
P.S: Remember everyone, it's just a theory. A PHINEAS AND FERB THEORY!
Or, another possibility: maybe Candace actually cares too much about Perry and puts on a mean persona against him in order to keep him from knowing what she knows so he won’t be taken from them. It’s entirely possible. Maybe all the meat brick comments were just a harsh moody teen cover up for her deep love and care for Perry.
Teenage girls typically do like to up a wall to block their emotions from others.
I think the whole family knows but is pretending they don't. Everybody except Candace actually. She only ever suspects but it's always doubted.
it could be she told stacey first and she told him to never tell everyone. that they would loose perry or her memories. she has been shown that, despite her busting nature, she loves her brothers and wouldn't want to hurt them that way. the episode that perry goes "missing" because he is reassigned, she is overcome with guilt. she doesn't actually want to cause that kind of pain to her brothers, she loves them. she just wants to bust them
New theory: Perry is actually a secret agent
He's just a platypus, they don't do much
Here's my answer to that x) th-cam.com/video/KBzYonshrQ4/w-d-xo.html
He and Candence switched places before.
Now c'mon, that's crazy
I mean, I would like to believe that, but Perry is just clearly going to his job at slushy burger to save up enough money to buy an ultra rare, 9 horse power, 30 gigahertz, gaming pc! Duh!
I think Candace considers the secret agent aspect of Perry to be one of her hallucinations. Remember that she hallucinates the Zebra that calls her Kevin.
My personal guess is that she does full well know Perry’s secret, but it’s a bit too crazy for her to even try to tackle the situation at hand so she just leaves it be
Oh my God, a theory that isn't too farfetched and that actually makes sense??
I'm still really surprised, I've never put all of the pieces together
They should totally expand this in the new seasons, and also make use of the fact that both Stacy and Vanessa know about Perry
But now that I think of it, shouldn't Doof have known about Candace since she fought her in that season 1 episode?
I really hope the revival will focus on Perry's secret a bit more. Especially on his homelife, that was rarely explored. I would personally love to see the Flynn-Fletchers either actively try to find out where Perry goes every day; or even start suspecting there's something weird/unusual going on with their platypus - only to be later thrown off the scent by Perry himself, perhaps.
I've given this some thought as well while writing the video, and I suppose Candace simply looks like an average teenage girl to Doof, just like Doof probably looks like any generic adult to Candace.
Even though Candace saw Doof in the Badbeard episode and Doof saw her in the body switch episode, neither one of them probably paid too much attention to how the other person looked.
We all remember how in 'Make Play' the "average teenage girl" looked exactly like Candace. She's the picture of anonymity, apparently xD
Yeah and I foget people who I've had multiple conversations with all the time
They've had an episode where Phineas and Ferb decided to follow perry around all day with their friends, I think
If Candace and Stacy know, Stacy would tell her she has to keep it hush
"But this is just a theory. A FILM THEORY"
If she found Perry’s Grappling Gun, maybe she also found the papers that explain what happens when the owners find out their pet is a secret agent and actually IS keeping the secret because she loves her brothers!
What if the cranky obsessive and slightly harsh persona Candace puts on is exactly that? What if she’s a brilliant inventor who secretly is impressed with her brothers and studies their work so she can secretly improve Perry’s equipment and gadgets and she secretly desires to show all 3 of her boys unrestrained love but she sacrifices that to keep Perry in their family?
At the end of the ballad of Badbeard the Grandma says it's not the Orange moss but was actually the Blue moss which was what made up the ground of Candace's tent.
Oh
There is more evidence of this, for example: when Candace of the with a children's rocket went through the Doofenshmirtz towers, she had to see how she fights Peepe
In the 2nd dimension and they're all being held by robots
Candace: "ok, i think i understand the whole perry is a secret agent thing, strangely thats the most normal thing thats happened today...."
I saw a clip of Stacy learning about Perry's secret literally yesterday so this video is perfect to watch today. Awesome :)
Perfect timing then x)
@@Jegcopo Yeah, I was wondering if it was actually true because it was just a clip...super glad it was!
I’ve always had this theory, but you found some amazing evidence I somehow didn’t notice! Good job!
Dan and swampy watching this video: write that down! Write that down!
She’s too focused on busting her brothers………… lol ❤
Don't Candace and perry have a moment in one of the movie specials where she gives him some kind of nod. I feel like there's an understanding between them.
I think Perry met up with Candace and told her what will happen if his secret got out and how Candace cares about her brothers she cares about Perry.
If she had found the tools when she was in Perry’s body, then there’s a chance she also found the pamphlet of what happens if the secret comes out. Meaning she would keep her knowledge a secret as well when it comes to Perry’s job and perry is keeping an eye on her in order to not have her spill the beans on perry. Meaning her bothers are fair game when it comes to busting.
another reason why candace could keep secret about perry's secret agent life could be that she suspects that if word got out, it could put them in danger, shes seen the danger doofensmirts can cause, plus, what spy movie DOESNT hae that "protect your secret for your family's" sake theme to it, shes bound to have seen at least a few of those and is going along with that theme
Perry's fedora seems to be inextricably connected to his mind somehow. When he switched bodies with Candace, he still had it on him.
OWCA gave him the hat, he didn't have it
@@fixedfunshow They must have connected it to his mind somehow.
@@theadaptationstationmasterIt was in his lair (maybe it was a spare one), and he simply took it with him when he fought Doofenshmirtz
You know i have seen the episode where is Perry so many times and i have never thought of that little detail with candace in the end thank you for pointing it out
Why does my nostrils whisper to me
Basically, everything you said about Candace not really caring about Perry's double life and focusing on only one thing she's been trying to do for years is the only the correct theory accurate to her character hands-down.
12:07 Okay but that GIF though. 😂
its possible that candace said something about perry's secret to stacy and stacy told her about the pamphlet
Candace also has a reoccurring dream of a Zebra that calls her Kevin, so she might think that Perry being an agent is just a dream as well.
The zebra scenes are always my favorites
this feels like more of a headcannon, but it's one of the better headcannons
A theory? Perry the theory!
man i always loved this cartoon
Perry has technical shown up as an agent two times in her dreams
As a pole I always thought the OWCA acronym is specyficly sounds like that in Poland. Becouse OWCA. Is a type of animal. OWCA in polish means sheep so we just have that Phineas and Ferb show with secret animal agency called Sheep lol
New video, new mood😁
I definitely agree that Candace knows you pulled some good evidence together for this theory
Honestly remember being confused how agent P was able to appear in her dreams if she didn't know.
@Jegcopo The organisation name: OWCA mean sheep in Polish
Yep. I didn't expect they use polish word.
Here's my own take on why I think she doesn't tell anyone about Agent P.
While she herself has shown to not be too fond of the "meat brick", I think (like others have considered) she would have stumbled across the pamphlet, alongside the grapple gun as you pointed out, at some point while she was in Perry's body. Thus she'd probably come to learn the consequences of telling her family the truth.
While I think Candace probably considered exposing Perry for a moment, she ultimately decided against it because she knows how much it would hurt Phineas and Ferb in the long run since it's no secret how attached they are to Perry. She probably couldn't stand to see their reaction if their beloved platypus was taken away from them forever and it was all her fault.
Even with her own low opinion of the Platypus, she does still care quite a lot about her brothers. Plus she only wants to bust her brothers and prove she isn't crazy to her mother, not emotionally devastate them by ripping their beloved pet away just because of knowledge of his secret.
So she keeps it quiet for their sake, probably as a silent way of returning the favor for all the things her brothers have done for her and/or because she knows, even with how much they annoy her, that Phineas and Ferb don't deserve something like that happening to them.
That's just my take anyway.
The last time I watched Phineas and Ferb completely was when I was little, so I never connected the dots that Candice would know Perry’s secret.
Candace’s def not canon schedule:
9 AM: Watch PnF plan
11 AM: Obsess over Jeremy
3 PM: Try to bust PnF (most of the time)
3 AM: Observe Perry
And to think the poor girl has to do everything by herself 🥺
@@Jegcopo Yeah but imagine if she was Milo’s sister and somehow HE was the one who never got caught
I think Candace only knows it subconsciously, and for the gadgets, I wouldn’t be surprised if the vast majority of them are in his Lair when not in use
@@Jegcopoand everyone thinks she is insane while she might be the only sane one
I always wondered if she knew all along
7:45 "WARLOCK!"
Thank you
Pff, if he's a warlock, then why is he wearing a dress? 🙄
@@Jegcopo robe
In the title sequence, candace is playing a whack a mole machine but instead of moles it's her brothers and PERRY. It obviously symbolizes her trying to bust them, but why else would perry be there if not because she knows?
I LOVE this so much
(Dun dun dun theme plays)
Perry keeps his hat in hammerspace, he’s literally in a cartoon. Like cartoon characters can pull big wooden hammers out of their pocket, Perry can pulll the hat out of his a
If candace is busting because she is absolutely panicked about her brothers endangering themselves, it is not impossible for candace to not want to tell about perry working for O.W.C.A for the sole reason she will be seen as not just crazy at first, but assuming the agents come in and take perry, pheneas and ferb who treat perry much better because they care about him would absolutely start disliking candace. We saw that pheneas can be cold to candace at times in a marvel based episode.
More evidence, the streetcam. She saw Perry on the footage
I'd say that Candace secretly knew about Perry's secret up until the entire cast that witnessed Perry as a secret agent got their memories erased by the Amnesia Inator in "Across the 2nd Dimension". The only time canonically and based on the timeline that people have put together over the years with subtle callbacks, she sees Agent P again is in "Where's Perry?" This is in part with "The Ballad of Badbeard", "Leave the Busting to Us" (taking place two weeks after "The Ballad of Badbeard"), "Does this Duckbill make me look fat" (taking place a week before "Leave the Busting to Us" and a week after "The Ballad of Badbeard") and "Wizard of Odd" (taking place 18 days after "Leave the Busting to Us"), Leaving all these instances to take place before "Across the 2nd Dimension", highly recommend The Glad in Gladiators timeline videos (th-cam.com/video/Hxm3NWYQYLc/w-d-xo.html) on the matter. The events of "Where's Perry" basically triggered her memory of all the instances she saw Perry before and why she is so insistent on talking about it while the others shrug it off. We can only assume that she got zapped with it again after the fact since this is never brought up again to this very day. Great theory video that makes more and more sense once you think about it.
...this makes a lot of sense actually
Well done, sir, well done. 🕵♀
Great video, interesting for sure, guess we will see what happens in the revival, keep it up!
3:12 The Eagle: 😏
I don’t know if she knew, because as you pointed out to be very good evidence I don’t know because in that dimension movie, do you know where they went into an alternate dimension and Perry’s secret was revealed Candace wasn’t like “I knew it I knew!” idk maybe she did know
i could see candace having brought the idea of secret agent perry, a few times with stacy, who eventually cracked, and revealed that she know he was a secret agent, after taking advantage of candaces , quintisential teenage girl, and get her to the super secret best friends never tell anyone else under any other situations promise, so candace refuses to refrence it at all due to her, tendancy to take things to the extreme
Without a clear acronym, but with polish sheep in their hearts :)
I would keep Perry’s secret because if I told someone I would differently be sent to the nut house
Theory: Perry intentionally stops Candace from busting her brothers by making things disappear.
Imagine if animals are really secret agents that would be cool
Good video jeg. Id go crazy if they add a Candace trying to bust perry episode in the new seasons
Buena teoría:)
Y espero que retomen lo de que stacy sabe el secreto de perry en las siguientes temporadas.
Ver los capítulos de candace era una genialidad con la voz de Christine byrd le daba como algo especial a su personalidad.
For the next Stacy/Perry episode, I am thinking Stacy should also interact with her gothic equivalent, Lacie...
She's Perry! Perry da teenage girllll
I feel like if she found any of the gadgets on perry she thought the boys put them on him
I can tell you that you have not see Phineas and Ferb: Across the 2nd Dimension. In the movie, it was said that they would have to get their minds wiped to keep Parry, after knowing that he is a secret agent and they do. O.W.C.A would have want to check all their memories to see what they know enable to get ride of anything that is pertaining to Perry being a secret agent. So, Candice doesn't know that Perry is a secret agent after that. But I could be wrong for all I know
I can tell you I did watch the movie, I'm a huge Phineas and Ferb nerd after all x)
The Amnesia-Inator used in the movie was used to only erase everyone's memories of the past day/of the whole second dimension adventure, and not all the memories related to Perry being a secret agent.
Phineas even says "So our choice is to either forget the best day ever, forget the greatest adventure we've ever had and forget meeting Agent P, or remember today but never see Perry again?", so I believe it's implied that only their memories of the past 24 hours or so would be erased, meaning Candace would retain all of her past Perry-related memories
My theory is that she doesn’t talk about it, because not only will she sound more insane, because a lot of people know about Phineas and Ferbs abilities. Like most of the kids and teens in the neighborhood, as well as sports teams and entire alien races and more. She doesn’t know anyone who knows Perry’s secret. She doesn’t know Stacy knows. So it would be really hard to convince anyone about it. And she wouldn’t get anything out of it, unlike busting her brothers where at least she would get justice where the brothers can get away with everything, while she can’t get away with anything. Meanwhile what would the mother even do if they figured out Perry, ground the pet? How would Candice get anything from it? By starting to mention it the only thing she would gain is getting back the trust of her family that she lost by mentioning it in the first place. And also Perry has a pamphlet of the consequences of their family finding out, so if we are using the body swap episode to figure out Perry had the grapple, then she could have found that too. Busting the brothers would be much easier and more rewarding to her. And it’s probably way more frustrating to her that she can’t bust the brothers because so many people already know and the brothers aren’t even trying to hide what they’re doing.
The minute she decides to dig deeper than the surface (watching her brothers) to figure out exactly why the inventions disappear, is the minute OWCA will have to be on high alert. Perry might even have Stacey attempt to subvert Candace to lure her away, but Candace will still at least get close
5:37 his hat and other items are just in Perry's Hammerspace
This seriously reminds me of Film Theory, especially the "That's just a theory, a Phineas and Ferb theory"
My daughter says that Phineas knows Perry is a secret agent in the show due to the song "Curtain Call". She says he says he got his mind erased but still remembers Isabella's kiss.
she says the kiss happens right before the mind erasing.
I think the evidence you've collected is really good and kinda damming, but I think it's just too out of character for Candace, queen of neurosis, specifically to be as chill about it. But extremely entertaining video
True, she may be the queen of Mars but more importantly, she's the queen of neurosis xD
Glad you enjoyed the video ewe
Phineas and Ferb theory do Phineas and Ferb know Perry's secret.
Headcannon: Perry has flesh pockets, that's where he keeps his fedora and gadgets
I have a theory. It doesn't have anything going for it buti can't find anything to refute it. Dr. Doofenshmirtz cannot be Phineas' dad. Vanessa and Candace are roughly the same age, i don't think Heinz would cheat on Cherlene, and it's confirmed they only ever went on one date. But there is still a Doofenshmirtz left. Roger. Roger doesn't intentionally mess with Heinz but things sort of happen. I don't figure Heinz knows (If he did it would be a backstory, see Huge Hands Hanz). With Rogers Doofenshmirtz genetics it would explain Phineas' head.
You also have to take into account when Heinz and Cherlene divorced, which i place shortly after Phineas and Ferb pick up Perry. As for when Candace and Vanessa were born, i place those a few years (2-4) after Heinz and Linda's date, as it would take Heinz a bit of time to get back in the dating scene.
In the movie perry pulled out a leaflet that says what happens when the hosts family finds out Candace probably found it and doesn't want to upset her brothers
but they dont know it by the end of that movie
i wasn’t conviced until the wizard of oz dream story 👏🏾
Seriously, though agent P has extra-dimensional storage for his gadgets, only way it makes sense.
Perry is Candace Alter ego,one of her personalities
I love cartoon theories Don’t worry about them. Getting elaborate dude you have a great imagination.
A moment would have been nice in a later episodes of a later seasons where candace would casually say to perry something in the lines of "Don't worry, I won't blow your cover", with perry silently being reliefed, maby with an appreciating nod.
Who knows, maybe in season 5 or 6 x)
This makes sense but I think this may have been overlooked. A lot of things in the show are. Like the time they got stuck on the island and the milo murphy law cross-over.
11:17 11:18 11:19 11:20 11:21 Fedora Perry my girl🥺☺️🥰😍!!!!!!! I swear to god that I missed seeing her different videos than my own videos of her🥺. She is such a fedora tipping queen👑🤠! If you guys are wondering who Fedora Perry is, she is my Perry OC from my channel☺️! She is Perry’s sister and hence by name being feddora, she loves tipping her fedora! She made her first appearance in the episode Phineas and Ferb Get Busted. When she speaks in English, her voice is cool, calm, collected, and high pitched cuz she’s a female to sound very cute cuz in the Perry Family, she is also considered to be the cute one😉! When I’m rping her, she is voiced by Tiffany Westfall/Tiffany Hefflinger(the actress who played Perry in Phineas and Ferb The Best Live Tour Ever in 2011 to 2012) and when she is singing in my videos of her, she is voiced by Christina Vee. FP is also a miraculous holder cuz she uses both the ladybug and mouse miraculouses. With the help of her kwamis, Tikki and Mullo, she is able to transform into FedoraBug when using her ladybug miraculous which her main miraculous and MultiFedoraMouse when using the mouse miraculous. If she wants to use both of her miraculouses at the same time, she unifies both miraculouses turning into MultiFedoraBugMouse. She is also my top voted Perry OC on the Phineas and Ferb Amino.
In other words, water is wet
my mind is now blown
But hold on a minute, weren't Candice's memory about Perry erased with everyone else's in the 2nd Dimension movie? I don't remember when it happens on the timeline, but if later, her knowing about it at some point doesn't really matter.
I mean, they do say in the movie that the erased memories is just for that specific day and nothing else, so
She could’ve also found one of his entrances that Perry closed such the tube behind the painting or owca did know she found out but decided not to do anything bc Linda doesnt believe her about her brothers inventions and would think she’s lying about that too
If you had been Perry, what would you have done in Candace body?
I knew someone would eventually ask this question...
Well, I would probably enter a thumb-wrestling competition to make the most of my new opposable thumbs :D
6:36 There is also possibility that Perry was not carrying his arsenal all them time,but just was grabbing it every time he would go to a misson. Like are you having your work tools all the time in your pocket? And as secret agent Perry would risk that some of those devices would out him if they accidently fallen out of the pockets family activities.
If she found the grappling hook as you suggest during the body swap episode, she should have also found the pamphlet about relocating upon discovering his secret. (See the 2nd Dimension Movie)
So she keeps its under wraps to not have Perry’s secret blown. Yes, she wants to Bust her brothers from potential harm (See how their mom was mad in the Rollercoaster Time Travel Episode & the Candace Dream within Perry’s Dream Episode).
But she doesn’t want to take away their pet that they love so much, even if she finds Perry’s incognito actions annoying.
That makes sense why in Perry's dream. We could easily see him panicking
If Candace truly knows, Perry knows she knows, but Candance has a probable denialbility so he doesn't worry about her that much spilling the beans and having to memory wipe her
you say hundreds of anime secret agents, I say 26
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