So this patch has been named the "Grand Balance Patch" and I gotta say, I agree! I think it will be fantastic for the quality and health of the game, keeping the qualities that make DnF Duel stand out, but also giving people to actually survive on defense lol. As always there is timestamps for you to skip around to whatever makes sense for you, but I do suggest watching the universal changes first before anything else. Full patch notes linked in the video description, and if you could spare a like for the video cause these guides take forever to make it would be greatly appreciated, enjoy!
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I did not use the timestamps, I actually don't even play DnF Duel anymore, but I'm leaving a like because Rooflemonger makes THE BEST visual guide for fighting games balance patches
I gotta admit, your videos are so detailed. As someone who hadn't played a FG since soul calibur 2, this year's title really got my attention. Without your breakdown/visual guides I can guarantee I would've told myself "that's why I haven't played this genre in so long" rather than realize I need to learn and understand mechanics better. Hope your holidays are epic!
Big fan of the patch, happy there is a season of DLC coming too! They kinda took their hands off the steering wheel for a while which admittedly is not great, but at least they are making amends and I think the game is going in a good direction!
Thanks again for being all over these big patches. Hopefully the new changes and the announcement of a season pass will breathe some life back into the game.
Man, this is such a cool patch. How many years have we been saying "just buff people. Nerfs and removing options sucks!" And these devs actually had the balls to do it. More devs need to have this mentality. I hope it brings folks back, and I hope the excitement draws more folks in. Can't wait for the season pass characters to hit.
I mean, that all depends on the game and the characters. Some characters are broken and need to be nerfed. Also, it's much easier to fairly evenly buff a small roster this size. Could you imagine trying to evenly buff a roster the size of Smash Ultimate for example?
Vanguard feels AMAZING now! I was able to make him work before and was able to pull wins with him but the gap of how hard I had to work vs someone playing Striker/Swiftmaster/Hitman in order to do so was huge. With his new MS set-up's you can throw out a neutral MS to bait rolls or other options and then cancel it into another skill and roll punish/anti-air, and even if they block it, 99% of the time you are still safe with proper spacing. The amount of anti air this character has is absolutely nutty, for real.... don't jump against this character unless you are 110% sure you will land the hit or you will get destroyed. The the back MS cancel super armor if timed right can lead to full combos where you just erase half the opponents health bar. He went from having no wake-up options to now having 4 depending on who you are facing and the reads you have in the moment. Legit ANY combo you do can force them into OTG's for different combo routes based off what part of the stage you are located at now. Also is one of the very few if not the only characters when awakened STILL demolishes your guard gauge regardless of the patch changes but only in awakening. All and all id say he's not "broken" but in the right hands will be a serious threat if you don't respect his options now.
This is good, the important thing about this and the Spectre announcement and the subsequent announcement of more DLC characters is that it lends to the idea that the game is not abandoned and indeed it has some kind of future ahead of it. And I can not emphasize enough how important those two things are for a fighting game (heck, for a human being even, lol). I don't play this game but I'm still rooting for it. And if things start looking up for it I'll definitely be open to jumping aboard.
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Correction: the recovery decrease on Ranger's grenade allows him to take a midair action after setting a grenade. Makes for a lot more grenade setups as you can get a soft knockdown and still set a grenade before getting a j.B meaty, or making it safer in neutral by stalling your landing with j.A or j.M. I'm most interested in how this impacts the ranger mirror, you can probably throw grenade and stall yourself over their 5B punish, which would add a lot more nuance to a rather annoying ditto.
Considering how rough it's downtime was, it's nice that it got a massive balance patch to (hopefully) make the game more enjoyable to play. I'm happy for Grappler and Vanguard about the new stuff they're getting. I'll still main Crusader if I get the game, so I'm gonna enjoy the conversions off of j.B, and the new cancels I can get off his 5S and j.S, etc. ^^
really good patch, shows a lot of promise for the future of the game! The biggest takeaway from it; for me at least, is how Grappler and Launcher got the most obvious and impactful adjustments, meanwhile the top tiers got some new tools to play with instead of anything groundbreaking.
I have a job and two very time consuming hobbies so I don't have time to play fighting games, but it's my favorite content to watch while I'm eating or having any sort of break. Even if it's a one hour video about a patch, just because Rooflemonger is the one doing the talking.
Troubleshooter can cancel all of his MP moves into “get on fire” followup on hit or whiff, not just 4M. This even includes his DP, giving him a combo aswell as oki.
Very important to note. 5MM in awakening is a really good combo starter and leads to some of his biggest stuff, and getting it off of a DP is huge for the character
Rooflemonger you didn't go over a big part of Grappler's awakening. The patch notes say that he can now cancel the second motion of his Seismic Crash (down + MS) into other MS moves! This is his parry. Doesn't this mean he can now combo off of a successful parry? He could never do that at all before, huge if this is the case!
@@oldmanfgc I found out that it means he can cancel out of it if it whiffs. He doesn't have to stand wide open and hold it, he can go into another MS move.
The best buff Enchantress got was bringing the roll in line with every other character something that she should have had from the start. The jump cancel on 2S is nice, but she could already cancel the recovery with 5MS and do followups that way so it didn't really add much. Increased mana recovery doesn't do much for her either since having the doll active prevents mp from recovering anyways, they could have at least reduced the cost of doll moves. As an enchantress player, I am just going to pretend the patch never happened.
You buried the lede a little on Troubleshooter. He can cancel his DP into the gunshot followup on hit in awakening, which means he gets a full combo. You know, that thing that makes Hitman broken. Troubleshooter does that too now. You can also cancel the DP on block, but I'm not sure it's fast enough to make it safe.
My boy Ranger still lacks an overhead but all the buffs are appreciated. I can't believe Inquisitor's Jump Magic got buffed. That was insane already and it would lead to her super long combos from OTG lol And Crusader got some juice, gonna have to re-learn the character probably
Vanguard's Brandish follow-up can be done as well even on whiff. Also, Grappler awakening buff is more crazier than you expected. He can cancel his MP skill before the animation is done. So, like, Magnumsault can be cancelled into air grab before he hit the ground and it was f**king crazy lol! He now can chase after his opponent.
I'm an enchantress main, and this patch was a little underwhelming for me. However, arcsys might have just made enchantress' corner game borderline broken! Her anti-air being jump cancellable on hit and especially block gave her a safe three-way mix-up that can be used almost anywhere in her blockstrings (only in corner tho :(). Doing some more time in the lab to further experiment with this for a video on this.
Ok, just to point some of the changes more clearly, because there are some incorrect statements here: - 10:14 Vanguard 2S was already jump cancelable on hit before the patch. What the new change seems to insinuate is that it's jump cancelable on block - 32:42 Crusader's 2A could be linked into another 2A prepatch, it was just moderately tight. Now that link is significantly easier and you can possibly link into 5A on non counter hit
I think it's worth clarifying that Vanguard could always jump cancel 2S on hit. With the buff it can now be jump canceled on block, giving him some new options for pressure.
I noticed that too. He always were able to cancel it on hit, but jump cancelleable on block opens up pressure and doesn't leave you a sitting duck when it is blocked.
Not a lot of people I know like this game but I'm going to pick it up anyway especially with netcode being good too on top of this patch and future character
I didn't know where else to ask this, but I haven't seen it explained anywhere. How do you do Crusader's jump magic low to the ground? Someone said to kara it but what normal do I kara from? I've been in practice forever and can't figure it out. Any help with this would be most appreciated, thanks.
I think I'll still have trouble ever going back to this game until they add some sort of defensive mechanic in the air. Even if I'm not asking for air-blocking, something to counter the one-button DPs and screen-covering disjointed anti-airs is really needed. Maybe something like doing a raw conversion in the air gives you i-frames, it would be balanced by needing to have and give up white health to use.
Man I'm really late to the party here. I always just played MK with my head in the Sand. Finally starting to branch out and trying other Fighting Games. This Game looks so Good.
I finally got the game because of this patch, I hated the whole TOD meta that ran the game. I've been wanting to hop on ever since I played the beta, hopefully this will bring players like it for me.
on release they were all already the strongest of their archetypes but now because of this patch they all went SuperSaiyan. all buff, no negative side effect, only flashy mayhem hell, i even think people modded Goku into the wrong game.
I grabbed it due to the sale on steam. Half price is about what I thought this game was worth to me... Seems like an absolutely fun time but I knew I wasn't gonna invest very heavily. But a Christmas time buy on sale? That's some fun.
In order to justify that, they'd need to do something about the game's overall movement, and I don't think that's in the cards. Y'know unless they wanna cut all pretense and just make this a straight up anime fighter at some point, which I wouldn't hate.
hello 👋, I have a question, does this game require ps+ to play online? The thing is that in the PS store it doesn't appear as a requirement like in other fighting games. Btw +1 sub
I'm guessing they probably wanted guard break to still be a viable threat. The design philosophy behind the game still seems to be "fun jank and crazy offense", and increasing guard gauge that much would probably be compromising that philosophy. For better or worse they don't wanna do that.
So this patch has been named the "Grand Balance Patch" and I gotta say, I agree! I think it will be fantastic for the quality and health of the game, keeping the qualities that make DnF Duel stand out, but also giving people to actually survive on defense lol. As always there is timestamps for you to skip around to whatever makes sense for you, but I do suggest watching the universal changes first before anything else. Full patch notes linked in the video description, and if you could spare a like for the video cause these guides take forever to make it would be greatly appreciated, enjoy!
I’ve asked this in the past but can I please the get the name of the Outro song you use from MvC2 please🙏,trying to make a ringtone out of it
@@alexandermelendez3575 its from CvS2 not mvc, "true lovemaking"
Since Roof is too humble about it I’ll say it. Rooflemonger has been nominated best FG content creator on Dashfight. Please vote for this guy for his on the pulse updates, Extended guides for each fighting game covered or both.
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Where can I vote. Man’s deserve it
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Cabt find the vote
I did not use the timestamps, I actually don't even play DnF Duel anymore, but I'm leaving a like because Rooflemonger makes THE BEST visual guide for fighting games balance patches
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I gotta admit, your videos are so detailed. As someone who hadn't played a FG since soul calibur 2, this year's title really got my attention. Without your breakdown/visual guides I can guarantee I would've told myself "that's why I haven't played this genre in so long" rather than realize I need to learn and understand mechanics better. Hope your holidays are epic!
i love these videos so much, please keep making them you make it so much easier to understand, thanks rooflemonger!
make sure to hit like on the kof xv season 2 one next month cause its prob gonna be 3 hours long and take years off my life to make lol
Quality rundown of a patch by a quality content creator, perfect timing too
This isn't an hour long! I'm filing a complaint! But seriously good job! I will watch/listen to this at work tomorrow!
the kofxv season 2 one next month will probably be like 3 hours long :(
Big fan of the patch, happy there is a season of DLC coming too! They kinda took their hands off the steering wheel for a while which admittedly is not great, but at least they are making amends and I think the game is going in a good direction!
I bought DNF Duel because of this patch, and I've been having a lot of fun! Great visual guide btw!
Thank you for the video. Made it way simpler than the written notes.
Launcher eating good this patch 🥰
I'm loving this! Just when we thought they were counted out!
Thanks again for being all over these big patches. Hopefully the new changes and the announcement of a season pass will breathe some life back into the game.
Man, this is such a cool patch. How many years have we been saying "just buff people. Nerfs and removing options sucks!" And these devs actually had the balls to do it. More devs need to have this mentality.
I hope it brings folks back, and I hope the excitement draws more folks in. Can't wait for the season pass characters to hit.
I mean, that all depends on the game and the characters. Some characters are broken and need to be nerfed. Also, it's much easier to fairly evenly buff a small roster this size. Could you imagine trying to evenly buff a roster the size of Smash Ultimate for example?
@@randumo24 broken stuff is fun man! But yeah I feel ya
Love seeing this game on the timeline again! Thank you for this 💯
Vanguard feels AMAZING now! I was able to make him work before and was able to pull wins with him but the gap of how hard I had to work vs someone playing Striker/Swiftmaster/Hitman in order to do so was huge. With his new MS set-up's you can throw out a neutral MS to bait rolls or other options and then cancel it into another skill and roll punish/anti-air, and even if they block it, 99% of the time you are still safe with proper spacing. The amount of anti air this character has is absolutely nutty, for real.... don't jump against this character unless you are 110% sure you will land the hit or you will get destroyed. The the back MS cancel super armor if timed right can lead to full combos where you just erase half the opponents health bar. He went from having no wake-up options to now having 4 depending on who you are facing and the reads you have in the moment. Legit ANY combo you do can force them into OTG's for different combo routes based off what part of the stage you are located at now. Also is one of the very few if not the only characters when awakened STILL demolishes your guard gauge regardless of the patch changes but only in awakening. All and all id say he's not "broken" but in the right hands will be a serious threat if you don't respect his options now.
Really appreciate the work man, keep it up! Got a taste of the SF6 beta and man, June is so far away!
Yay ive been waiting for this, no other creator does these patch changes visual guide as well as rooflemonger.
Looking forward to adjusting to these DK and Striker changes
This is good, the important thing about this and the Spectre announcement and the subsequent announcement of more DLC characters is that it lends to the idea that the game is not abandoned and indeed it has some kind of future ahead of it. And I can not emphasize enough how important those two things are for a fighting game (heck, for a human being even, lol). I don't play this game but I'm still rooting for it. And if things start looking up for it I'll definitely be open to jumping aboard.
Here we go folks, the stuff legends are made of
I’ve been subscribed since fighterz came out and he is definitely the most helpful, understanding and organized w your content to me and I always look forward to your info on most fgc games first before most👏🏾👏🏾 definitely deserve it
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Awesome! Thanks for the visual breakdown for the Striker, Striker, and Striker changes!
Thank you so much for your work Roofle! 🙏
Im always waiting for your patch videos, they are always clean, well edited and easy to understand. Thank you so much, king!
I've been waiting for this update. Hopefully this will bring people back to this over the top fighting game.
GRAPPLER EATING GOOD BRO LETS GOOOOOOOO
Great job Roof, a lot of time and hard work went into this and it is much appreciated.
Great stuff as usual. Appreciate all your hard work!
The fighting game community NEEDS this guy. Thank you monger
VANGUARD BROS WE ARE EATING G O O D
Roof, I always leave a like soon as I step into the room. Thanks fam for the upload.
Correction: the recovery decrease on Ranger's grenade allows him to take a midair action after setting a grenade. Makes for a lot more grenade setups as you can get a soft knockdown and still set a grenade before getting a j.B meaty, or making it safer in neutral by stalling your landing with j.A or j.M. I'm most interested in how this impacts the ranger mirror, you can probably throw grenade and stall yourself over their 5B punish, which would add a lot more nuance to a rather annoying ditto.
Thanks for the heads up! Hardly a ranger main so I read the language on it as plain as possible
Been watching for this vids. Thanks !!!!
As a Crusader main the fireball combos and the apocalypse combos are so insane and insanely fun. 10/10 patch
Can’t wait to see where Vanguard gets taken with this patch, kinda feels like he could’ve gotten some other buffs though
He might be right under Launcher now. He's pretty damn good now.
Yea I wish they touched his s moves a little..
Very happy with dragon knight buffs and new possible combos now
Awesome guide. Unknown warrior actually starts at 53:01.
Considering how rough it's downtime was, it's nice that it got a massive balance patch to (hopefully) make the game more enjoyable to play. I'm happy for Grappler and Vanguard about the new stuff they're getting. I'll still main Crusader if I get the game, so I'm gonna enjoy the conversions off of j.B, and the new cancels I can get off his 5S and j.S, etc. ^^
Crusader is the shit! Love that character. Ghost blade as well.
Loving your videos!!
really good patch, shows a lot of promise for the future of the game!
The biggest takeaway from it; for me at least, is how Grappler and Launcher got the most obvious and impactful adjustments, meanwhile the top tiers got some new tools to play with instead of anything groundbreaking.
I have a job and two very time consuming hobbies so I don't have time to play fighting games, but it's my favorite content to watch while I'm eating or having any sort of break. Even if it's a one hour video about a patch, just because Rooflemonger is the one doing the talking.
Oh, it's also on sale on Steam. This is perfect man. I can play it on PC.
Troubleshooter can cancel all of his MP moves into “get on fire” followup on hit or whiff, not just 4M. This even includes his DP, giving him a combo aswell as oki.
Very important to note. 5MM in awakening is a really good combo starter and leads to some of his biggest stuff, and getting it off of a DP is huge for the character
Rooflemonger you didn't go over a big part of Grappler's awakening. The patch notes say that he can now cancel the second motion of his Seismic Crash (down + MS) into other MS moves! This is his parry. Doesn't this mean he can now combo off of a successful parry? He could never do that at all before, huge if this is the case!
I was super excited for this change but it doesn't seem to work...
@@oldmanfgc I found out that it means he can cancel out of it if it whiffs. He doesn't have to stand wide open and hold it, he can go into another MS move.
@@nealsoul7516 Gtk. Thanks!
@@nealsoul7516 amazing!
@@nealsoul7516 Um, actually, that doesn't work...plus the patch description talks about cancelling out of the follow up. I think it's just bugged.
Just got a ps5 and bought this game. Great timing with upload
The best buff Enchantress got was bringing the roll in line with every other character something that she should have had from the start. The jump cancel on 2S is nice, but she could already cancel the recovery with 5MS and do followups that way so it didn't really add much. Increased mana recovery doesn't do much for her either since having the doll active prevents mp from recovering anyways, they could have at least reduced the cost of doll moves. As an enchantress player, I am just going to pretend the patch never happened.
This Christmas everyone got a sweet new bike or action figure or video game, except Enchantress, she got socks.
Wow the Inquisitor changes look awesome. I didn’t play this game as much as I wanted this is really making me want to get back into it.
been waiting for this
Grappler awakening mode is awesome.
love how this game doesnt shy away from being technical despite the 'simple controls,' really carries the old games spirit im sure
The game is on sale on PSN too. Those cheeky bastards got me thinking of picking it up.
Thanks for the update, time to hop back in for a bit
You buried the lede a little on Troubleshooter. He can cancel his DP into the gunshot followup on hit in awakening, which means he gets a full combo. You know, that thing that makes Hitman broken. Troubleshooter does that too now. You can also cancel the DP on block, but I'm not sure it's fast enough to make it safe.
I KNOW my understanding of any fighting game (patch) will be substantially off to a better start if Rooflemonger has a visual guide
“Hello….and welcome” I say it everytime watching your video 😭🤣 keep up the good content
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My boy Ranger still lacks an overhead but all the buffs are appreciated.
I can't believe Inquisitor's Jump Magic got buffed. That was insane already and it would lead to her super long combos from OTG lol
And Crusader got some juice, gonna have to re-learn the character probably
The game is on sale 50% off btw.
So everyone who was hesitant, with this patch and the price its the perfect time to jump in!!!
As a Launcher/Vanguard player, I will actually be playing the game again
Grappler: STOMP, STOMP......... STOMP!!!!!!!!
Wow! I can't believe they buffed Striker's Kunai Teleports!
Vanguard's Brandish follow-up can be done as well even on whiff. Also, Grappler awakening buff is more crazier than you expected. He can cancel his MP skill before the animation is done. So, like, Magnumsault can be cancelled into air grab before he hit the ground and it was f**king crazy lol! He now can chase after his opponent.
I'm an enchantress main, and this patch was a little underwhelming for me. However, arcsys might have just made enchantress' corner game borderline broken! Her anti-air being jump cancellable on hit and especially block gave her a safe three-way mix-up that can be used almost anywhere in her blockstrings (only in corner tho :(). Doing some more time in the lab to further experiment with this for a video on this.
th-cam.com/video/Efl7X4UE4lI/w-d-xo.html Not a bot, here's the video if anyone's interested.
Them grappler changes 🙏
I got to admit I like it wait I think I love it.
I don’t even have this game lmao, but I simply love your guides! :)
Ok, just to point some of the changes more clearly, because there are some incorrect statements here:
- 10:14 Vanguard 2S was already jump cancelable on hit before the patch. What the new change seems to insinuate is that it's jump cancelable on block
- 32:42 Crusader's 2A could be linked into another 2A prepatch, it was just moderately tight. Now that link is significantly easier and you can possibly link into 5A on non counter hit
Swiftmaster has become the true swifter sweeper picker upper
I think it's worth clarifying that Vanguard could always jump cancel 2S on hit.
With the buff it can now be jump canceled on block, giving him some new options for pressure.
I noticed that too. He always were able to cancel it on hit, but jump cancelleable on block opens up pressure and doesn't leave you a sitting duck when it is blocked.
I completely forgot this game was in my library, maybe i should give it another fair go, patch looks interesting
28:10 pretty sure inquisitor's awakening makes take less guard gauge damage, not deal more, but i could have read things wrong
Thank you
Not a lot of people I know like this game but I'm going to pick it up anyway especially with netcode being good too on top of this patch and future character
Did the grand patch get people playing again? Heard the player base was pretty small.
I didn't know where else to ask this, but I haven't seen it explained anywhere. How do you do Crusader's jump magic low to the ground? Someone said to kara it but what normal do I kara from? I've been in practice forever and can't figure it out. Any help with this would be most appreciated, thanks.
Launcher looks like a real character now.....👍🏾
They put Launcher in the game!
DO WHATEVER YOU WANT
Sayless papa Roof
I think I'll still have trouble ever going back to this game until they add some sort of defensive mechanic in the air.
Even if I'm not asking for air-blocking, something to counter the one-button DPs and screen-covering disjointed anti-airs is really needed.
Maybe something like doing a raw conversion in the air gives you i-frames, it would be balanced by needing to have and give up white health to use.
Man I'm really late to the party here. I always just played MK with my head in the Sand. Finally starting to branch out and trying other Fighting Games. This Game looks so Good.
Hello! Will you ever do a advanced guide for Virtua Fighter 5 Ultimate Showdown?
Do you know how to change input disay from xbox ones to ingame ones I bought this game yesterday and I play on stick, its kinda confusing
I finally got the game because of this patch, I hated the whole TOD meta that ran the game. I've been wanting to hop on ever since I played the beta, hopefully this will bring players like it for me.
Better hit boxes, better juggles, papa duel
on release they were all already the strongest of their archetypes but now because of this patch they all went SuperSaiyan. all buff, no negative side effect, only flashy mayhem
hell, i even think people modded Goku into the wrong game.
I believe, please correct me if I'm wrong, ghostblade teleport cost 40mp instead of the original 50. Please confirm. Many thanks.
I grabbed it due to the sale on steam. Half price is about what I thought this game was worth to me... Seems like an absolutely fun time but I knew I wasn't gonna invest very heavily. But a Christmas time buy on sale? That's some fun.
As a Striker main, this made me giddier than a kid in a candy store. WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE HER TRIPLE KICK JUMP CANCELABLE!
Stand S buff on crusader broke my bnb I used with him which is annoying but at least the rest of his changes feel good
that ranger stand a dash cancel looks like el fuerte....simplest infinite in the game?
Now that they've added proper air combat to DNF I hope that the next big patch adds in air block
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In order to justify that, they'd need to do something about the game's overall movement, and I don't think that's in the cards.
Y'know unless they wanna cut all pretense and just make this a straight up anime fighter at some point, which I wouldn't hate.
I'm more hyped for these changes than Strive. Guess it's time to sink another 200 hours into the madness of DNF.
Buffs are great for launcher
hello 👋, I have a question, does this game require ps+ to play online? The thing is that in the PS store it doesn't appear as a requirement like in other fighting games. Btw +1 sub
Well it should, I guess I don't know for sure but thats generally how it is.
They need to remove the block button. Once gone the mix would be amazing
Ghostblade main spotted
soooo basicaly grappler got tuskstyle spezialcanceling correct? ....
"like "x factor" .. oh ok ...
tbh I was expecting all characters to get 50-100% more guard gauge and not the 5-10% we got
I'm guessing they probably wanted guard break to still be a viable threat. The design philosophy behind the game still seems to be "fun jank and crazy offense", and increasing guard gauge that much would probably be compromising that philosophy. For better or worse they don't wanna do that.
baby steps lol
I hope they make back the block button in a future update, just to mess with people
Some good buffs, but they really needed to drop some characters and stages. I probably wont be coming back to DNF duel.
They really said "Let's just make grappler an infinite character at this point"