Everything Ed says makes perfect sense to me, I’ve had a couple of so-called coaches give me lessons, both times they tried to impose their style on me.. I was told my biggest problem is closing one eye on certain targets even though I was hitting them every time, I’m convinced to a point, there is no right or wrong if you’re comfortable and you’re hitting them it’s got to be right surely👍
Yep. That's confirmed it, I definitely want a few lessons with Ed some time soon! I said it on the last video, but I'll say it again, what a fantastic communicator he is.
This saying dates back to at least 1944 and its author is anonymous, but it has stuck with me since I first heard it decades ago, "Amateurs practice until they can get it right; professionals practice until they can’t get it wrong."
What's fascinating to me is the difference in approach of those who look at sporting clays as "practice" for hunting and those who approach it as a sport. Thanks again for the content and cheers.
Your channel along with TSC, and Lloyd Pattison are the 3 channels that enjoy watching more than others. I'd been away from the clay target games for a good 15-18 years until this past fall and the videos are just leading me down the rabbit hole more and more and MORE!
Had a pro fault finding lesson on Friday, helped me immensely, drive and long crossers were my trouble, not so much now. Will be having another one before beretta world!
I love this video. I’ve been hitting too many out of luck and missing the consistency I need. Can’t wait to try these techniques out on my clay ground.
I could really do with some time spent Ed after my efforts yesterday. Might have to wait till the next time I can get to the UK, whenever that might be! Cheers from Australia.
Great video, for all of us thats just imposible to get that kind of instruction thats pure gold. Thanks, personally apreciate your channel it Is the Best, really!
One piece of advice that helped me hit more clays is to get hold of a section 1, then you’ve got 6 shots instead of 2. Literally tripled my accuracy. I’m sure that Ed was going to mention this himself, probably just forgot...
@@G31mR in British law a standard shotgun certificate only gives you the ability to own a ‘section 2’ shotgun that holds 3 rounds or less. A section 1 shotgun is a shotgun that holds more than 3 rounds. You need a firearms certificate if you want one of these (application process is a bit more of a pain in the arse)
@@stareagle5000 no you can have a semi auto or a pump action also on a section 2 as long as is can hold no more than 3 cartridges ( 1 in the chamber and 2 in the magazine tube )
I have been shooting PSG and mini rifle recently, where one is given time to view and plan how to shoot each stage. To be fair this is very much the same structured approach, and I cant understand why I hadn't considered it for clays. Great video and advice!
For an in depth explanation of what he's talking about find a PDF copy of The Gold Medal Shooting Academy Training Manual by Dan Carlisle. He goes into all the details of reading and setting up the shot like this guy explains.
@@tgsoutdoors 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂. keep the shooting ground videos coming. They have both a technical and entertaining aspect to them. Looking forward to the next one 👍👍
As an instructor as well, with pretty decent credentials, please listen to the first 3 minutes of this video religiously. I'm a very new age instructor that deals with mainly very new or never shot before clientele. One of my main teaching points, is exactly what he says. Self awareness while you shoot. I have people explain to me why they wanted to start their gun where they did, and if and when they miss, what happened.? From start to finish.
Great video. I’m new to clay pigeon shooting and these series of videos are brilliant. Question how do you transfer these skills to Rough shooting where you normally walk with the gun broken or gun down.
When it comes to rough shooting, that would take practice and repetition to build muscle memory. Locking the action, getting into a proper stance while shouldering the stock, and work on sight picture with a target
Good heavens, if I looked like Ed Solomons I would rule the world. ~~ I love the idea of sporting clays, but in this video just like in real life I can't see either of the targets on the shooter's first pair. Couldn't see them either time he tried. I think to be good at skeet, trap, sporting clays, or dove hunting, you have to have incredibly good eyes. By the time I try to focus (and then figure speed, angle, distance, and lead) the target is GONE!
I have found that clay shooting is good and bad for gameshooting. Good for basic practice but only to an extent. Clays are more predictable but usually much harder to shoot, you can easily over lead your game birds on farm style shoots. If you have good gun movement then aiming for beaks usually works (for me), addsome if further than usual. However I can't afford pegs to shoot the super duper high bullet birds.
For years I’ve put off buying an over under; and I don’t have the wealth to be fitted by a manufacturer or a pro. Are there any tips to knowing a commercial shotgun is acceptable in fit so that I can just get to shooting? For 20 years I’ve had access to inexpensive sporting clays shooting and I seldom take advantage of the opportunity.
I leart a lot from all of you little here a little there i do shoot like a tennis plays hits a ball i shoot a 5 bl double or a 5half auto im older dont need weight or recoil so its a 20 i shoot easy targets or easyier so i shoot them and they dont brake on the ground then afer shooting them i go to the hard course and hardly miss why confidence
I treat sporting clays as training for hunting. For me that's flushing birds in the field. I intentionally do NOT pre mount the gun because operationally, mounting and firing from field carry on the flush is how the business happens.
genuine question here, not trying to be smart- Isn’t sporting clays supposed to help mimic hunting, and therefore, planning exactly how you plan to approach it and where your shot is going to be isn’t very realistic? it seems more useful to practice instinctively shooting.
If that works for you, then great. However, training your mind and body to tackle a target with the most efficient move and best method of lead will pay dividends when in hunting scenarios
Next time you see Ed, chuck on your best/worst Aussie accent and say "Go and get F'd" from me 🤣 It should be illegal to be that good while looking as good doing it... Reminds me a lot of SAS marksman that trained me "Do this, like this, for this outcome"
As with most of these kinds of videos, the targets are mostly invisible. The solution is very simple- Back the camera away from the shooters and zoom way in. Look at how it’s done in filming an American baseball game, and how the pitcher, batter and catcher are all in the same focal plane and show almost the same apparent size,. Thus you can see the ball, no problem, all the way from pitcher to catcher. They’re using telephoto lenses from behind the outfield.
I had my first clay 25 have a go day ...hit 14 out of the 25 .. Now the instructor wants me to try a 50 clay two at a time....I've booked in two weeks. I think this will be out of my ability and should just repeat the 25 single clays or 50 singles ....ANY ADVICE ANYONE ......bjm
I'm red and green color blind, so I can't see the orange Clay Pigeon in the green grass. Approx 20 % of the male population is color blind, and we have big problems to even see the targets at the shooting range.
You need to practice. You don’t need to pay a professional. Watch videos, they are all over the place. Then practice. Above all buy a gun that suits you.It’s always fun to succeed, but it takes practice.
Everything Ed says makes perfect sense to me, I’ve had a couple of so-called coaches give me lessons, both times they tried to impose their style on me..
I was told my biggest problem is closing one eye on certain targets even though I was hitting them every time, I’m convinced to a point, there is no right or wrong if you’re comfortable and you’re hitting them it’s got to be right surely👍
YES!!!! Wasn’t having the best Sunday, but then this shows in my feed. Proper cheered me up
Yep. That's confirmed it, I definitely want a few lessons with Ed some time soon! I said it on the last video, but I'll say it again, what a fantastic communicator he is.
He's actually a nice bloke as well
@@sonnyjoannou9413 Found Ed's burner account.
This saying dates back to at least 1944 and its author is anonymous, but it has stuck with me since I first heard it decades ago, "Amateurs practice until they can get it right; professionals practice until they can’t get it wrong."
We need more with Ed this is brilliant 👍
Solomons is a great shot. Plus a real nice guy. He has earned his status of Champion.
I am shooting with one eye for 40 years and it always worked great for me. Some of my newer shooting friends are just finding this out great video
I love the dry sense of humor at 9:45 Thanks for the coaching Ed!
What's fascinating to me is the difference in approach of those who look at sporting clays as "practice" for hunting and those who approach it as a sport. Thanks again for the content and cheers.
I hope this is a monthly thing with Ed. I really enjoy his teaching.
Your channel along with TSC, and Lloyd Pattison are the 3 channels that enjoy watching more than others. I'd been away from the clay target games for a good 15-18 years until this past fall and the videos are just leading me down the rabbit hole more and more and MORE!
I agree. Lloyd is by far the best, but TGS and TSC are pretty good too
I acted on your advice today and my scores jumped 2 - 4 points per game. It made a really big difference. Thank you.
That's a really interesting way of looking at shooting targets, technique over outcome....
The timing on this video is perfect! I'm trying sporting clays for the first time this afternoon!
Good luck!
@@tgsoutdoors well that was humbling. Shot 31/50 but had a blast!
That’s not bad for your first time out, well done
Very good instructor with a great sense of humor.
This is my favourite video, ever now and then I re watch it just to refocus what I am meant to be doing.
Had a pro fault finding lesson on Friday, helped me immensely, drive and long crossers were my trouble, not so much now. Will be having another one before beretta world!
Fantastic series! Would be cool to see the shooting through a ShotKam as well - just a suggestion for future clips
The best explanation of set up of your mindset in aproaching targets ive ever seen. Thank you.
I love this video. I’ve been hitting too many out of luck and missing the consistency I need. Can’t wait to try these techniques out on my clay ground.
I could really do with some time spent Ed after my efforts yesterday. Might have to wait till the next time I can get to the UK, whenever that might be! Cheers from Australia.
Likewise, borders might reopen by 2025 😜
Great video, for all of us thats just imposible to get that kind of instruction thats pure gold. Thanks, personally apreciate your channel it Is the Best, really!
Fantastic advice and a great video to watch 👍
Nice little clip,informative and useful, good to see the way a competitive mind approaches a stand 👍
Brilliant and no doubt he has changed your shooting life Jonny.Great watch.Top coach.
Great sense of humour, got to love the British 😂
9:21 Too funny. Great video guys. Much appreciated.
One piece of advice that helped me hit more clays is to get hold of a section 1, then you’ve got 6 shots instead of 2. Literally tripled my accuracy. I’m sure that Ed was going to mention this himself, probably just forgot...
What does "get hold of a section 1" mean? I'm American, so forgive me.
@@G31mR in British law a standard shotgun certificate only gives you the ability to own a ‘section 2’ shotgun that holds 3 rounds or less. A section 1 shotgun is a shotgun that holds more than 3 rounds. You need a firearms certificate if you want one of these (application process is a bit more of a pain in the arse)
@@genghishank1 in America we only have one license. Unless you want to shoot a fully automatic weapon. That’s a whole separate thing.
@@genghishank1 so a break action vs semi-auto shotgun basically?
@@stareagle5000 no you can have a semi auto or a pump action also on a section 2 as long as is can hold no more than 3 cartridges ( 1 in the chamber and 2 in the magazine tube )
Ah, that’s what I’m doing wrong, I forgot the nettle tea and massage!
Best instruction I’ve heard.
The man is a 🌟
Excellent advice. Outstanding banter.. thankyou..👍
Keep these coming Jonny, guys a ledge … cheers mate
Johnny looking at Ed’s video I reckon the best plan/structure is to shoot from the hip!!
⬆️ this is true
I have been shooting PSG and mini rifle recently, where one is given time to view and plan how to shoot each stage. To be fair this is very much the same structured approach, and I cant understand why I hadn't considered it for clays. Great video and advice!
For an in depth explanation of what he's talking about find a PDF copy of The Gold Medal Shooting Academy Training Manual by Dan Carlisle. He goes into all the details of reading and setting up the shot like this guy explains.
“..anything that stings. It could be jellyfish, hornets, wasps, fire ants”. 😆🤣
Great video, the way Ed explains it is easy to understand. Would love to see a video of him showing you to shoot off the hip as well as he can 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Not sure a 10 year long video would be that interesting to anyone
@@tgsoutdoors 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂. keep the shooting ground videos coming. They have both a technical and entertaining aspect to them. Looking forward to the next one 👍👍
I agree with Ed but what happens at your club shoot when the clays are not coming the same every time? You end up snap shooting at the wayward target.
Awesome !!!!
I've never had that mindset ,,, but imakes perfect sense !!!
Thank You Both so very much !!!!!!
Great video ! Very informative. Thank you for sharing.
That was excellent. Hit with bad shots. Miss with good shots. Well done
Yet again, really great content!!
Now, That"s helpful! Many many thanks!
A) Informative
B) Hilarious
Yep, goals achieved.
As an instructor as well, with pretty decent credentials, please listen to the first 3 minutes of this video religiously. I'm a very new age instructor that deals with mainly very new or never shot before clientele. One of my main teaching points, is exactly what he says. Self awareness while you shoot. I have people explain to me why they wanted to start their gun where they did, and if and when they miss, what happened.? From start to finish.
Great video ..... keep up the good work.
Great video, thanks!
Came for the info, stayed for the banter 🤣👌
Thank you!! Always shoot Sporting Clays with purpose not on faith. Have a plan and work the plan.
No sweat lodge for the pre shoot routine?
Another great watch Johnny
Great video. I’m new to clay pigeon shooting and these series of videos are brilliant. Question how do you transfer these skills to Rough shooting where you normally walk with the gun broken or gun down.
When it comes to rough shooting, that would take practice and repetition to build muscle memory. Locking the action, getting into a proper stance while shouldering the stock, and work on sight picture with a target
Having watched this, it makes me realise that it's my inconsistency approaching a stand is the biggest problem.
Very interesting.i need a bit of Ed!!!!! 👍
i find lots of sky and not much clay when i shoot but im hoping to change that
Brilliant Brilliant brilliant
great vid as all ways well done
Very interesting 👍💪👏
Very well done, thanks
Great vid very informative. BTW beautiful looking gun what is it I wonder
Great vid. Which shooting glasses are those?
Bring Ed back for more training he's making more sence to me
I wish more than anything there was an Ed Solomons where I’m at but as far as I can tell there isn’t a shooting coach for shotguns that lives in Utah.
Fabulous video. 👍
Brilliant video! Lovely gun too, what is it?
Good heavens, if I looked like Ed Solomons I would rule the world. ~~ I love the idea of sporting clays, but in this video just like in real life I can't see either of the targets on the shooter's first pair. Couldn't see them either time he tried. I think to be good at skeet, trap, sporting clays, or dove hunting, you have to have incredibly good eyes. By the time I try to focus (and then figure speed, angle, distance, and lead) the target is GONE!
Great video!!
Superb video! And what a gorgeous gun.
Johnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ya need to do the same with Ed Solomons but with a side by side :)
What kind of hearing protection are you using?
Always Custom Fit Guards
Excellent video
Legit started wondering if I was watching the sporting clays version of Spinal Tap at 10:00
video perspective makes that first rabbitt seem really far out how many meters are those clays set at
20 ish meters and 25 ish to the second bird from memory
Hello TGS, is it possible to reply the same method to game shooting?
I have found that clay shooting is good and bad for gameshooting. Good for basic practice but only to an extent. Clays are more predictable but usually much harder to shoot, you can easily over lead your game birds on farm style shoots. If you have good gun movement then aiming for beaks usually works (for me), addsome if further than usual. However I can't afford pegs to shoot the super duper high bullet birds.
Excellent
WELL SAID!!
For years I’ve put off buying an over under; and I don’t have the wealth to be fitted by a manufacturer or a pro. Are there any tips to knowing a commercial shotgun is acceptable in fit so that I can just get to shooting? For 20 years I’ve had access to inexpensive sporting clays shooting and I seldom take advantage of the opportunity.
Beretta 694 TSK stock
What tortoise shell glasses are those? Please reply.
Edwards Eyewear Milan’s?
I leart a lot from all of you little here a little there i do shoot like a tennis plays hits a ball i shoot a 5 bl double or a 5half auto im older dont need weight or recoil so its a 20 i shoot easy targets or easyier so i shoot them and they dont brake on the ground then afer shooting them i go to the hard course and hardly miss why confidence
I treat sporting clays as training for hunting. For me that's flushing birds in the field. I intentionally do NOT pre mount the gun because operationally, mounting and firing from field carry on the flush is how the business happens.
Very good content! thank you
Booked👍
What glasses are you wearing in this video Jon? Pilla?
I know you now wear Eds with prescription lenses...
If one shoots better, this can change his life. Literally...
Hey Jonny, what gun are you shooting? She’s a beaut.
Really good
Golden 👍
Left handed rabbits are the sneakiest
genuine question here, not trying to be smart- Isn’t sporting clays supposed to help mimic hunting, and therefore, planning exactly how you plan to approach it and where your shot is going to be isn’t very realistic? it seems more useful to practice instinctively shooting.
If that works for you, then great.
However, training your mind and body to tackle a target with the most efficient move and best method of lead will pay dividends when in hunting scenarios
@@tgsoutdoors thanks for the reply.
Unless you hunt with a pointer.
Next time you see Ed, chuck on your best/worst Aussie accent and say "Go and get F'd" from me 🤣 It should be illegal to be that good while looking as good doing it... Reminds me a lot of SAS marksman that trained me "Do this, like this, for this outcome"
Part of me really wishes I was born in the countryside of England.
Its disappearing,,,,,,,Quickly
I had no idea Zac Efron was an expert on sporting clays.
As with most of these kinds of videos, the targets are mostly invisible. The solution is very simple- Back the camera away from the shooters and zoom way in. Look at how it’s done in filming an American baseball game, and how the pitcher, batter and catcher are all in the same focal plane and show almost the same apparent size,. Thus you can see the ball, no problem, all the way from pitcher to catcher. They’re using telephoto lenses from behind the outfield.
Nettles. I knew it!
I had my first clay 25 have a go day ...hit 14 out of the 25 ..
Now the instructor wants me to try a 50 clay two at a time....I've booked in two weeks. I think this will be out of my ability and should just repeat the 25 single clays or 50 singles ....ANY ADVICE ANYONE ......bjm
More clays is more fun!
If you felt like the info you received from today is enough, then go for a 25. If you handle more- do more
Wish he was in the USA
I'm red and green color blind, so I can't see the orange Clay Pigeon in the green grass. Approx 20 % of the male population is color blind, and we have big problems to even see the targets at the shooting range.
crawl,walk,run
You need to practice. You don’t need to pay a professional. Watch videos, they are all over the place. Then practice. Above all buy a gun that suits you.It’s always fun to succeed, but it takes practice.
It can be hard to find good hornets these days