Why is the implication that 2023 wasn’t a good draft? I get 2022 was horrendous but 2023 had 7 picks, 2 of which were projected starters in Addison and Blackmon, Jay Ward has been a back up which isn’t a bad thing for a 2nd year 4th rounder, and Ivan Pace was the UDFA signing. 3 borderline starters in 1 round is bad? Really?
All 3 years of Kwesi’s drafts have been bad, aside from Addison and Reichard have either not worked out or to early to say. Blackmon still hasn’t proven himself as a legit CB 1 or 2 and Turner is in the same category as Blackmon. And we haven’t seen JJ play a full season yet. Depth is a big issue on this team and kwesi has only drafted 2 starters in these past 3 drafts.
@ brother, you just hate the guy. Ivan Pace has been an excellent LB. I agree Blackmon isn’t proven, but you are lying to yourself if you don’t think he was going to start this year. Gilmore was signed post injury in response to the injury, a point the team made in their pressers. I get hesitancy on JJ, but declaring the draft bad because an injury, a player died, and your other 1st isn’t starting ahead of the likes of Greenard or Gink is crazy. As far as depth, in 2024, Rouuse and Jurgens are both on the 53 as a back up, Jalen Redman and Taki Tamani has been a rotational player. These are all rookies on the team right now who the team is okay with seeing the field or have seen the field. These are late round picks! It’s okay to say 2022 was trash, but saying 2023 and 2024are as well is a garbage take.
You can literally see the twinkle in Thor's eye as he talked about Deion Walker; get you a significant other that looks at you like Thor looks at planet sized defensive tackles
Love the hat and you have a Marshall shirt omg I love this I was born and raised in Iowa Hawkeye fan and I have family that live in Huntington West Virginia big Marshall fan also small world
I kind of know that feeling...was stuck in the house a few weekends ago and ESPN+ got the better of me...had 3 TV's going with teams like Wofford, Emporia St and Missouri Western occupying screens at one time or another during the day...😂
I love Mackey but hearing him take a loud, disgusting sip is the most grating, spine tingling sound Skor North has to offer outside of Doogie repeating "I'm just telling you" more times per appearance than Ed Ingram quarterback trips.
On Mackeys’s question about the time and money teams put in to scouting out a player, the example that pops them into my mind is Johnny Manziel. After was all said and done, he admitted that he was shocked that the Browns didn’t know how much partying he was doing, and how little time he spent studying film. Mackey and Judd immediately accused him of pushing off responsibility, but I take him at his point: How did the Browns (AND the Vikings and others!!) miss that?? If he wasn’t trying to keep it a secret, it was there to be discovered. And yet no one did. How can you not think that there’s something wrong with this process?
Very funny, Thor slams Mackey on his % of picks that don't play a down - more info needed to justify that take. Then Judd says Kewesi doesn't use scouts to make picks but Thor says as a data gatherer, he used them more than Spielman did. Hilarious start to the day.
If we don’t have a top DL with our first rounder I think a new interior lineman would also be a good late first round pick. Build the trenches consistently.
How many guys would be starting without Ricks picks or FA’s? Addison, JJ, and maybe Turner and Blackmon? I think he should just cut ties with Grigson and hire somebody else to handle whatever Grigson’s duties are. Kwesi can stay and is good with trades and FA’s but I don’t have any clue what value Grigson has brought the last 3 years
This Thor dude is a master of playing the RESULT. He acts like every guy who turns out good, he had a high grade on, and every bust, he had a low grade on. Smh
Scouting and projecting college players are like forecasting weather...they are often wrong because there are so many unknowns. Data analytics are only useful if you have the right data and they are correct.
It’s not KAM, it’s the scouting department which of course is his responsibility. I say go to the best drafting teams and double the salary of a key member of those teams scouting/draft staff and bring them to Minnesota. Couldn’t hurt.
Kwesi gets a mulligan in the first draft.. Due to all defensive picks, they were based on a Donatell(SHELL) style defense, getting players that were fitting that system.. but it's his and KOCs fault for hiring Donatell in the first place.
I haven't gotten through the whole video as I make this comment so they may address it or whatever but, the last time Mac Jones face the Vikings he had a career high game... With the Patriots. That also happened to be the one and last year that we had the Donashell defense. This will not be the Vikings that he remembers.
Thor just doesn't want the team to win without Mccarthy, just listen to how he talks its always next year so his favorite can be the QB it's about the jersey not the name on the back
This yr is their shot. 1 starter in 3 drafts thats actually nfl ready, and only 1 real pick next yr. Flores will be gone, half the defense could be signed somewhere else, and betting the farm on a qb that got hurt his first game. THIS YEAR is their chance. If they blow it, wont be any more playoffs for a long time.
I would like one show where Thor doesn't cream his pants over J.J McCarthy. My God shut up! He just said McCarthy would be a upgrade at quarterback next year, next flippin year! McCarthy may be everything he dreams of. The reality is he's never took a snap in the real NFL! He played just over 2 quarters in preason and tore up his knee. None of you cowds ever mention that he maybe injury prone! Darnold is 6 and 2, and that's damn good. The team is playing well, you guys stop short of giving Darnold the credit he deserves. You would much rather McCarthy at the helm. This team has a shot, next years team will not. Rookie quarterback can't do what Darnold is doing.
KAM is good on the financial end of his job. The Vikings were in such a salary cap HELL. KAM made the decisions necessary to put us in a position to be HIGHLY competitive in free agency. On the flip side, we never have any draft picks to develop new talent. A wash.
The other day The guys here talked about how in the last ten years the vikings were dead last of players drafted that have played a snap at 13% which is bad. WELLLLL! Out of the 2022 & 2023 Not counting 2024 The viking would be at 0.6%. Man Speilman really did suck.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Let Kwesi Cook!!!! If you include this year you would be at 2.2% and you know many of those will be playing soon. Bad Stat analogy to put on Kwesi in comparrison to Speilman who did the lions share of that stupidity. Quit your DOOMSDAY stuff with Kwesi and play stats how they should be played. Right now Vikings would be #1 in that stat.
Just amazing how people give kwesi so many excuses and everything that’s wrong blame the person that was in the position before. He blew a lot of draft capital on Dallas turner. I mean a lot of
I just don’t get the excuses for Kwesi. Okay so he’s not a football guy like Spielman and he’s more of a collect info kind of guy. Okay well he either hired the wrong people to gather info or he’s doing a horrible job with the info that is handed to him. Either way it falls on him. When it comes to acquiring talent in FA. I’m sorry but I’m not seeing anything that other GMs aren’t doing. I just don’t get why he gets this pass. Dude has been flat out awful.
Why is the implication that 2023 wasn’t a good draft? I get 2022 was horrendous but 2023 had 7 picks, 2 of which were projected starters in Addison and Blackmon, Jay Ward has been a back up which isn’t a bad thing for a 2nd year 4th rounder, and Ivan Pace was the UDFA signing. 3 borderline starters in 1 round is bad? Really?
All 3 years of Kwesi’s drafts have been bad, aside from Addison and Reichard have either not worked out or to early to say. Blackmon still hasn’t proven himself as a legit CB 1 or 2 and Turner is in the same category as Blackmon. And we haven’t seen JJ play a full season yet. Depth is a big issue on this team and kwesi has only drafted 2 starters in these past 3 drafts.
@ brother, you just hate the guy. Ivan Pace has been an excellent LB. I agree Blackmon isn’t proven, but you are lying to yourself if you don’t think he was going to start this year. Gilmore was signed post injury in response to the injury, a point the team made in their pressers.
I get hesitancy on JJ, but declaring the draft bad because an injury, a player died, and your other 1st isn’t starting ahead of the likes of Greenard or Gink is crazy.
As far as depth, in 2024, Rouuse and Jurgens are both on the 53 as a back up, Jalen Redman and Taki Tamani has been a rotational player. These are all rookies on the team right now who the team is okay with seeing the field or have seen the field. These are late round picks!
It’s okay to say 2022 was trash, but saying 2023 and 2024are as well is a garbage take.
You can literally see the twinkle in Thor's eye as he talked about Deion Walker; get you a significant other that looks at you like Thor looks at planet sized defensive tackles
Thor is a great to have on the show. Maybe let Thor pick the topic of THORSDAY
I think he was (verdict still out) far off on his Bo Nix negativity and his Chop Robinson positivity. We’ll see.
Love the Marshall Thundering Herd shirt Thor
Welcome back Phil, sounding better🍀 ! Happy Thorsday 👍! Going to watch Deone Walker highlights after this !
Love the hat and you have a Marshall shirt omg I love this I was born and raised in Iowa Hawkeye fan and I have family that live in Huntington West Virginia big Marshall fan also small world
Love Thorsdays nothing but football football football its awesome. SKOL VIKINGS
Thorsdays are the best !!!!!
Thor says "Watching college football more than anyone should." Lol
I kind of know that feeling...was stuck in the house a few weekends ago and ESPN+ got the better of me...had 3 TV's going with teams like Wofford, Emporia St and Missouri Western occupying screens at one time or another during the day...😂
When I was in college (Division III) 78 -81, we'd receive mailfrom the Dallas Cowboys asking for a list of any standout players we'd seen.
Deone Walker is my favorite defensive pick in this draft I wpuld love for him to learn under Phillips
Patient for now, but winning in the playoffs is a must.
Why the hell is thor not hired as a full time Vikings Scout??
I definitely love the deone walker pick in the draft if the vikings can do it
Go Hawkeyes!!!! Nice hat!!
I love Mackey but hearing him take a loud, disgusting sip is the most grating, spine tingling sound Skor North has to offer outside of Doogie repeating "I'm just telling you" more times per appearance than Ed Ingram quarterback trips.
Um um sam darnold 😂😂
"Planet Sized"!! He said it!
I think he knew, said he wasn't gonna say it, said it anyway 😂
On Mackeys’s question about the time and money teams put in to scouting out a player, the example that pops them into my mind is Johnny Manziel.
After was all said and done, he admitted that he was shocked that the Browns didn’t know how much partying he was doing, and how little time he spent studying film.
Mackey and Judd immediately accused him of pushing off responsibility, but I take him at his point: How did the Browns (AND the Vikings and others!!) miss that??
If he wasn’t trying to keep it a secret, it was there to be discovered. And yet no one did. How can you not think that there’s something wrong with this process?
Very funny, Thor slams Mackey on his % of picks that don't play a down - more info needed to justify that take. Then Judd says Kewesi doesn't use scouts to make picks but Thor says as a data gatherer, he used them more than Spielman did. Hilarious start to the day.
If we don’t have a top DL with our first rounder I think a new interior lineman would also be a good late first round pick. Build the trenches consistently.
My bold prediction right now-- whoever drafts Shedeur Sanders is going to get a perpetual diva headache and a bust.
Called it last year...Cam Ward will be better than anyone else in the 2024 and 2025 draft. Wish the Vikings held off for him.
Skol ready for a 3-game run (at least). Write that down.
How many guys would be starting without Ricks picks or FA’s? Addison, JJ, and maybe Turner and Blackmon? I think he should just cut ties with Grigson and hire somebody else to handle whatever Grigson’s duties are. Kwesi can stay and is good with trades and FA’s but I don’t have any clue what value Grigson has brought the last 3 years
I wish we could still have Rick Speilman do our drafting
This Thor dude is a master of playing the RESULT. He acts like every guy who turns out good, he had a high grade on, and every bust, he had a low grade on. Smh
Thor Ga has some great d fence players
Scouting and projecting college players are like forecasting weather...they are often wrong because there are so many unknowns. Data analytics are only useful if you have the right data and they are correct.
We made moves when we had to!! The other team has to agree with it too
Did you know that Coach O'Connell scored 24/50 on the Wonderlic [intelligence test]?
I'm surprised New England drafted him.
Gronkowski scored 32.
Reagor scored 13.
It’s not KAM, it’s the scouting department which of course is his responsibility. I say go to the best drafting teams and double the salary of a key member of those teams scouting/draft staff and bring them to Minnesota. Couldn’t hurt.
All this draft talk and who we pick is HIGHLY DEPENDENT on if Flo is or isn't with the Vikings.
Kwesi gets a mulligan in the first draft.. Due to all defensive picks, they were based on a Donatell(SHELL) style defense, getting players that were fitting that system.. but it's his and KOCs fault for hiring Donatell in the first place.
I haven't gotten through the whole video as I make this comment so they may address it or whatever but, the last time Mac Jones face the Vikings he had a career high game... With the Patriots. That also happened to be the one and last year that we had the Donashell defense. This will not be the Vikings that he remembers.
How many current players will the Vikings resign next year and how will that impact on what they do in free agency?
Reckless Speculation
Vikings need to bring in some help in their scouting and drafting department. They have been out right horrendous
The worst part about this week is I've got 7 days of hearing people mispronounce "Jaguars" as "Jag-WIRES". It's not a difficult word, Thor.
Grammer police to the rescue 🙄
Grammar police to the rescue 🙄
Need thor to help hunt for that future DT
The Vikings need to hire Thor as a Scouting Consultant.
Get Thor on the Vikes staff!!
Lets hope KOC gets the Vikings more prepared than PJ Fleck.
Thor just doesn't want the team to win without Mccarthy, just listen to how he talks its always next year so his favorite can be the QB it's about the jersey not the name on the back
This yr is their shot. 1 starter in 3 drafts thats actually nfl ready, and only 1 real pick next yr. Flores will be gone, half the defense could be signed somewhere else, and betting the farm on a qb that got hurt his first game. THIS YEAR is their chance. If they blow it, wont be any more playoffs for a long time.
I would like one show where Thor doesn't cream his pants over J.J McCarthy. My God shut up! He just said McCarthy would be a upgrade at quarterback next year, next flippin year! McCarthy may be everything he dreams of. The reality is he's never took a snap in the real NFL! He played just over 2 quarters in preason and tore up his knee. None of you cowds ever mention that he maybe injury prone!
Darnold is 6 and 2, and that's damn good. The team is playing well, you guys stop short of giving Darnold the credit he deserves. You would much rather McCarthy at the helm. This team has a shot, next years team will not. Rookie quarterback can't do what Darnold is doing.
The commanders are 7-2 with a rookie qb
KAM is good on the financial end of his job. The Vikings were in such a salary cap HELL. KAM made the decisions necessary to put us in a position to be HIGHLY competitive in free agency. On the flip side, we never have any draft picks to develop new talent. A wash.
The other day The guys here talked about how in the last ten years the vikings were dead last of players drafted that have played a snap at 13% which is bad. WELLLLL! Out of the 2022 & 2023 Not counting 2024 The viking would be at 0.6%. Man Speilman really did suck.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Let Kwesi Cook!!!! If you include this year you would be at 2.2% and you know many of those will be playing soon. Bad Stat analogy to put on Kwesi in comparrison to Speilman who did the lions share of that stupidity. Quit your DOOMSDAY stuff with Kwesi and play stats how they should be played. Right now Vikings would be #1 in that stat.
I’d trade the next 3 firsts if I could get Hunter.
Kwesi needs to hire Thor as a consultant... 😮
Decklan do you have anything to say about any of this or are you just going to sit there and watch
Hes the producer dumbass. You know how it works.
Hey Thor, Jegwires?😆
I think it's disrespectful to call Kwesi not a "football guy"
Simply means he wasnt a player or coach at any real competitive level. No disrespect.
They have to fire this guy or not let him draft
The cup is nice I got a couple from the game I went to but Pepsi itself 👎
"Throw the book in"?
A cliche mangler.
Thor keep up the great content. Maybe have Thor and DOOGIE on at the same time
Iowa strong
And after the game everyone is going to Judds house SKOL can’t wait to get to Judds house
Isn’t Kewesi the money guy but KOC the guy who tells Kewsi who to pick
KOC isn’t watching all the college tape. That’s what a scouting department is for.
No that’s Grigson.
@@brianthomas7407 The scouting director has been with the Vikings for 21 years ( Sholiton )and the Asst. director ( Roberts ) for 12.
@@hunniebe6 scouting director brings all reports to Grigson
Judd looks like you drank to many pumkin spice lattes
I think Ryan Grigson is helping Kwesi draft he sucked with Indianapolis that’s why the Vikings sucking in the draft let Kwesi & KO daft players
Dude people are only human guys relax
Kwesi Odofo-Mensah is flat-out incompetent. Get somebody else to do it.
Jagwires....LOL
Just amazing how people give kwesi so many excuses and everything that’s wrong blame the person that was in the position before. He blew a lot of draft capital on Dallas turner. I mean a lot of
Turner a stud
@ He hasn’t even played in some games. He hasn’t been even close to a stud yet. Jared verse has been a stud.
I just don’t get the excuses for Kwesi. Okay so he’s not a football guy like Spielman and he’s more of a collect info kind of guy.
Okay well he either hired the wrong people to gather info or he’s doing a horrible job with the info that is handed to him. Either way it falls on him.
When it comes to acquiring talent in FA. I’m sorry but I’m not seeing anything that other GMs aren’t doing.
I just don’t get why he gets this pass. Dude has been flat out awful.
Racist Mackey taking shots at Addison all day again and putting words in his mouth and defending lawerance for the 5th time.
I liked it better without mackey
Thor overrated.. I come to watch them not Thor 🤷♂️