They should get extended but not for the amount of time that they both will want or think they deserve. If I'm the Wilf family I offer them a 3 year extension and tie them to JJ McCarthy
This is reasonable. I feel like KOC and Kwesi’s fates in the next few years will depend on how McCarthy pans out for sure. I’ve seen a majority of good things from both but they aren’t without their faults. Really hope it works out though because I think they could build something special.
I'd give them whatever they want, within reason. They can always be fired and paid off. I really think they'd be hard pressed to hire somebody better than KOC despite his various flaws.
Need to see how the offseason goes. if they don't dramatically retool the interior O line that has been a problem since Matt Birk left then at least need to find a GM who can.
KOC gets a 5, idk wtf you're thinking of why you think he hasn't earned that. Lock me in with him. And don't even think about referencing not winning a playoff game.
It's the guy they chose. Me myself, I think JJ can ascend to that top level, he has the ability, and I think he has the coaching to do it. With that said, we all need to see it. I don't take any issue with tying KOC and KAM to JJ's success..... barring injury.
Yes, they both will be getting paid. The Wilfs need to give them time with JJ McCarthy. Trying to find a Franchise QB and clean up the salary cap are the reasons they are here.
Told you to stick with swimming. Your football IQ.... And you call yourself fantasy football guru? Lmfao. 3 worse drafts in Vikes history is why ya here. Lulz
@@StillKeepOnLosing Do you remember months ago when I made my projections that you would make 100 posts per day, get into 50 head to head battles per day, and lose them all? That's why I make the big bucks and you spend all your time on Purple Daily.
If you have a general manager, who struggles with drafting, you don’t have a general manager. This is ridiculous. You don’t win championships with free agents.
It's not just the GM it's the whole scouting department. Kwesi makes the decision but whoever is feeding him info on prospects obviously doesn't know either.
Time to get rid of Kwesi. All he has done is hurt the team by his anal drafts. Buying stocks is not the same as the evaluation of NFL talent. He needs to go!
Having Blackman back will be awsome. He should be a full go in mid to late March. I say we go after Interior D Line in the first round of the draft. Hopefully we can get a second rd for Darnold. Go get a center and a rg in FA. The Vikes are in good shape.
I am not sold on KOC yet. Good coach absolutely, but sadly with all this success Brad and Zimmer have a better playoff wins record. At the end of the day after 35 years of watching this team I want them to win a SB before I die and playing for next year is so worn out it’s welcome. We shouldn’t resign Sam either. If he had made it to the NFCC then maybe a one year deal but we found out early that he is not the answer in the final weeks. Extend KOC 1 year and do everything to build and develop JJ. B-Flow is gone too. Maybe we can pick up Robert salah from GB. Good defensive mind. SKOL Vikings!
Losing was a blessing in disguise n watching the other teams clearly demonstrates what we need n don’t need. 1 No question now SD is not getting paid here, stick w the plan. 2-We all know OL needs help but after watching commanders it’s clear to me it starts w center. Bradbury needs to go n need major upgrade there. 3- need upgrade secondary w young aggressive n fast players. Between cap n draft we can further tweak this team in right direction. Just think how many teams would kill to be in our position. SKOL
Kwesi can’t draft. He was over ruled by the front office on the head coach He actually gave up draft picks for Jalen Reagor Traded twice with division rivals without getting much in return in his 1st draft Oh did I say the man can’t draft. Koc did wonders with what he has been given. Just my 2 cents. Everyone said Speilman left this team with cap problems. Yeah that’s what happens when you draft and have to resign your guys’ Speilman and KOC would of been good imo
I think with what KOC has done with the culture and the personal he had on the 53 man roster, her deserves it, and I look forward to him being the coach. KWESI I have only one huge fear, his drafts. That's huge in my opinion in finding young great talent, for low cost. And he's pretty much failed. For 3 years, there's 1 solid draft. And 2 that are being developed. Turner, Will, and Addison are his only hits.
my man…. Here you go: I Think People overestimate the NFL Draft under Rick Spielman the Vikings average 2 “hits” each year from draft or UDFA 2012- Smith, Wright 2013- Rhodes, Thielen 2014- Barr 2015- Kendricks, Hunter, Diggs, Harris 2016- Ham 2017- Cook 2018- O’Neill 2019- Bradbury, Mattison 2020- Jefferson, Metellus 2021- Darrisaw, Bynum And under Kewsi they are also averaging 2 2022- Nailor, Wright 2023- Addison, Pace 2024- Turner, Reichard (MORE TBD)
@hodaka175 well, they've been winning alot of games. With bad quarterbacks, below average o line, and we haven't had a good RB since KOC either. So, I'm just saying, that's impressive
Kwesi knows the art of delegating certain decisions. I think he'll find a way to get a more expert decision maker involved to help overhaul the interior offensive line this offseason. Idk what that would entail, but he's resourceful enough that I think he'll find a way, to find someone who can help him make better decisions at building an offensive line. One way or another.
I’m gonna say one off season move this team needs to do. Is to move on from Chris cooper the OL line coach. I think there’s better options out there at OL coach.
I wish the bokings would have done what I wanted them to do. Trade jefferson and 2 fifst round picks for Jayden Daniels. Now we ha e a true franchise qb and Addison and Hockenson to go with it. McHandoff is not even in the same class as Daniels. Everyone was bocking at my pick because Daniels was to thin he'd get hurt right away people said. Well 1000 yds rushing later Daniels is still looking like a future goat in the NFL. Doesnt matter if you have a Jefferson if McHandoff cant get the ball to him. McHandoff is already fragile gets a knee injury in one half preseason game so running isnt an option.
Please stop talking about Sam Darnold being a Viking in 25' they drafted a top 10 QB a year ago JJ McCarthy should be competing for the starting job and quite frankly he should be a shoe in for it. This Sam Darnold Vikings offense isn't good enough and believe me it was maxed out KOC maxed that shit out and it wasn't nearly good enough.
KOC is easily the best coach we've had since Dennis Green and hes arguably better then him. The playoff success will come. Green went awhile before winning a playoff game as well
I want KOC to stay, I think he's a great coach and I'm happy he's here but he has not proven he knows how to win big games. Sean McVay has proven he knows how to win big games. Maybe KOC will prove that in time but in the 3 years he's been here he's had 3 really big games and his team has looked like trash in all 3. I know there can be excuses for the losses like Donatell's defense was terrible in the playoff game against the Giants but the cold fact of it is all 3 of those games his team got manhandled. I still believe he's capable of winning big games in the future though, he just has definitely not proven it yet.
So far he's proven incapable of winning the big games so far. Him being successful as an OC is nice but I give that credit more to the coach who just outclassed him in the wild card.
If i am the Vikings, I Start JJ McCarthy, Then i bring on jimmy Garrapollo as the backup with Mullens as the third. Then i go out and get Trey Smith, Drew Dallmon, And draft another interior offensive lineman to compete with Brandel. Then i look for a good size NT to anchor the defense and bring in as many corners as you can afford to to improve the defense, Bring bad Grueger-hill and bullard.
my Free Agency list Trey smith 30 mil per yr 2 Will Fries center Drew Dalman 18 per yr 2 ryan Kelly Te help bring back Tyler Conklin Dt D.J Jones, Levi Onwuzurke. Cb D J reed and Charvaries run back how abut Khalil Herbert try to get him in middle of season but bear would not trade went to cin
Oh so we can extend koc but not give Darnold a contract? Lets roll with thd unproven McHandoff whos never played a snap in a regular season game. A qb that handed off 90% of the time at Michigan which had an NFL calibdr line in college? With a pathetic running game here and an o line thats nediocre at best. OK that makes sense if you want to see McHandoff fail like Darnold did at NY go right abead. Darnold basically played his first true year in the nfl and he got 14 wins. But wzit you say he blew the pmayoff game. Yes bjt it was his first playoff game. What about Geoff who ks experienced in playoff games throwing 3 picks and fumbljnv the ball? Detroit pays him well and ge isnt going anywhere next year. Why is that. Because he won 15 games q mlre than Darnold did. So i do not get fans. I guess thats why ghey arent owners or coaches so they can just say and call it how they want.
I think KOC is a good play caller in between the 20's but if he wants to win big games in the NFL this organization has to get better in the short yardage red zone situations and also can not be near the bottom of the NFL in rushing attempts. Look at all the teams left they all can run the football. Kwesi has been above average he needs to draft better. KOC hopefully learns from these 3 years. They both are tied together and are now tied to JJ McCarthy give them all 3 years together
@anthonyschuster6403 RG CB S are the biggest 3 needs of the off season. I'd like for them to move on from Bradbury but for some reason they have this budget approach inside yes the contracts are team friendly but we saw how that works out against elite teams in the playoffs. If they can get a Trey Smith for 20 million you prob have to keep Bradbury but I'd rather get Teven Jenkins at RG a true road grader and then upgrade LG as well keep Brandel as the first depth piece or move on from Bradbury I know they like Jurgens but he's undersized also. They MUST upgrade inside.
It's kind of like the Sam Darnold situation to me. You have to SHOW ME something first, BEFORE you get an extension. Let's see a win in a PLAYOFF GAME, before we talk about any EXTENSION. It's great to average 13 wins every year, but it's NOT GREAT to exit in the first round of the playoffs every year!!! 😆😆😆
I think McCarthy is going to be a really good quarterback for us and I am ready to move forward with him. We have to improve interior offensive line and defensive lines. I agree we have to nail this draft, Kwesi’s first 3 drafts have been terrible and puts us in the situation of getting high priced free agents to make up for it. We can’t survive doing that! SKOL!!!
I am sure the Wilfs would have extended O'Connell but it is Quasi that is the problem - he is horrible (understatement) at drafting. In three year we have one player that is a starter. The Wilfs may need to change the GM, if so, will the new GM want O'Connell or choose their own Head coach?
There are _people_ involved, and that means ego and pride are too. They haven't won. If there wasn't tension in the building, there'd be something wrong.
Extend them both to coincide with the duration of McCarthy’s rookie contract. Their Viking careers will have to coincide with the success or failure of our QB.
I think it is entirely possible the kwesi and koc want to stick to the original plan with jj but the wilfs are causing the tension because they saw what happened this year and don't want to risk anything.... just a thougt
It’s not my money, so I hope the Wilfs pay Kwesi and Kevin as much money as will keep them happy and focused on winning. The Wilfs can always change their mind and eat the remainder of the contract if things go sour unexpectedly.
My thinking with KoC's extension is it would be smart for them to factor in giving B Flo big time DC money. Give KoC big money while saving some to pay B Flo a good chunk so that money is less of a factor for B Flo taking a HC spot.
KOC is the cousin of couching, he has good regular seasons but can’t win a playoff game. I’ve watched enough Vikings games over the years. He has no in game adjustment skills and he has the same game plans all season every game which is why all his games starts the same and ends the same. His teams starts hot and stall for most of the games giving the other team a chance to get back in the game. If you watched the game against the lions a few weeks ago and watched the playoff games against the rams you’ll see that he had the same game plan and when it was obvious the rams came into that game with the same game plan the lions used to beat the Vikings KOC made no adjustments to help his QB out, he kept calling the same plays that were getting him hit. As for the GM he should’ve been fire two years ago. Every good teams are built through the draft and the GM has shown that he has no clue what he’s doing in the draft, three seasons over 30 picks, please show me how many of the players he drafted are still on the team or in the league? There’s a lots of great young up and coming GM names out there, I think the Vikings you go get one of them like the assistant GM of the broncos. Ownership should cut their loses now and let them both walk cause in my humble opinion they’ll be firing them in a few years anyway.
@@OliverPantsoff no I am a fan who know he’s seen enough to know that the Vikings can do better. As a midwesterners we are so humbled and gracious and sometimes I wish we would demand more from our teams like the do in other cities across the country Philly let a Super Bowl winning couch walk and they’re still doing great.
I'm fine with extending O'Connell [in case I'm wrong about his ceiling] but they have to be able to and willing to replace him before the next contract is fulfilled.
To let O'Connell identify a QB and then not even allow it to play out would be the dumbest thing ever. I don't think the Wilfs are stupid. It'll get done. There was all kinds of nonsense talk about Jefferson's situation last off season and it turned out it was all bs.
Let's be honest KOC was good in the regular season with his QB in 2 seasons. 2023 during the QB injury year KOC was horrible. In the 5 biggest games of KOC's 3 year career the Vikings got embarrassed in 4/5 and won a game they had 99.9% chance of losing if Josh Allen didn't fumble a snap a game in which they choked. They should get extended because of the body of work but not for more then 3 years
A great option for Sam D would be to send him to the 49ers. Sam is definitely an upgrade over Brock Purdy. Especially since Purdy wants top-tier money. Sam on a 3-year contract at $120M is far better than Purdy at $150M - $180M.
It's sad that people are impressed by Kwesi's Wall Street career. Working on Wall Street doesn't mean much. Plenty of boys who spent four years too hungover to attend class work on Wall Street (and more than a few are making seven figures by the time they are Jaren Hall's age).
McCarthy was NOT O'Connell's favorite QB prospect, or second favorite, or third favorite. We know he preferred McCarthy to Bo Nix and probably to Michael Penix.
They should get extended but not for the amount of time that they both will want or think they deserve. If I'm the Wilf family I offer them a 3 year extension and tie them to JJ McCarthy
This is reasonable. I feel like KOC and Kwesi’s fates in the next few years will depend on how McCarthy pans out for sure.
I’ve seen a majority of good things from both but they aren’t without their faults. Really hope it works out though because I think they could build something special.
I'd give them whatever they want, within reason. They can always be fired and paid off. I really think they'd be hard pressed to hire somebody better than KOC despite his various flaws.
Need to see how the offseason goes. if they don't dramatically retool the interior O line that has been a problem since Matt Birk left then at least need to find a GM who can.
KOC gets a 5, idk wtf you're thinking of why you think he hasn't earned that. Lock me in with him. And don't even think about referencing not winning a playoff game.
JJ Win, lose or draw. Don't be foolish, he is the future - let's ride.
It's the guy they chose. Me myself, I think JJ can ascend to that top level, he has the ability, and I think he has the coaching to do it. With that said, we all need to see it. I don't take any issue with tying KOC and KAM to JJ's success..... barring injury.
Yes, they both will be getting paid. The Wilfs need to give them time with JJ McCarthy. Trying to find a Franchise QB and clean up the salary cap are the reasons they are here.
Told you to stick with swimming. Your football IQ.... And you call yourself fantasy football guru? Lmfao. 3 worse drafts in Vikes history is why ya here. Lulz
@@StillKeepOnLosing No, I told you to stick to swimming. Now you are using it on everyone else. Are you really still here all day everyday?
@fantasygurulegend Wow. What fraud you are. A fake fantasy guru now you tryna be me? Lmfao. Take the L like your sad viqueens lmfao
@@fantasygurulegend You already pretending to be a fantasy guru... Now you tryna be me? Lmfao. You are so sad
@@StillKeepOnLosing Do you remember months ago when I made my projections that you would make 100 posts per day, get into 50 head to head battles per day, and lose them all? That's why I make the big bucks and you spend all your time on Purple Daily.
Will this team ever be able to beat the Rams? Might as well pack it in if both squads make the playoffs as KOC can't seem to compete
Scared to beat his old boss, not a good sign.
If you have a general manager, who struggles with drafting, you don’t have a general manager. This is ridiculous. You don’t win championships with free agents.
It's not just the GM it's the whole scouting department. Kwesi makes the decision but whoever is feeding him info on prospects obviously doesn't know either.
Time to get rid of Kwesi. All he has done is hurt the team by his anal drafts. Buying stocks is not the same as the evaluation of NFL talent. He needs to go!
KAM should not be extended!
Neither should KOC, needs to get a playoff win first.
Having Blackman back will be awsome. He should be a full go in mid to late March. I say we go after Interior D Line in the first round of the draft. Hopefully we can get a second rd for Darnold. Go get a center and a rg in FA. The Vikes are in good shape.
I am not sold on KOC yet. Good coach absolutely, but sadly with all this success Brad and Zimmer have a better playoff wins record. At the end of the day after 35 years of watching this team I want them to win a SB before I die and playing for next year is so worn out it’s welcome. We shouldn’t resign Sam either. If he had made it to the NFCC then maybe a one year deal but we found out early that he is not the answer in the final weeks. Extend KOC 1 year and do everything to build and develop JJ. B-Flow is gone too. Maybe we can pick up Robert salah from GB. Good defensive mind. SKOL Vikings!
Tried to tell you Daniels was and is the Real Deal! Love how the producer Deklin was shooting Daniels down pre - draft!
O’Connell didn’t prepare the Vikings to win against the Lions and Rams. He’s not that good of a HC.
Hard to win when Darnold is throwing to ghosts.
@@StriderZessei Bad clock management in the playoffs and an unwillingness to pull a QB who isn't playing well isn't a good sign.
@@lisasmith767 benching a qb having a record season to field an untested third-string is the dumbest thing he could have done.
@@StriderZessei By untested you mean the guy who's been in the league for years? We're not talking about some bartender they found off the street.
Losing was a blessing in disguise n watching the other teams clearly demonstrates what we need n don’t need. 1 No question now SD is not getting paid here, stick w the plan. 2-We all know OL needs help but after watching commanders it’s clear to me it starts w center. Bradbury needs to go n need major upgrade there. 3- need upgrade secondary w young aggressive n fast players. Between cap n draft we can further tweak this team in right direction. Just think how many teams would kill to be in our position. SKOL
Kwesi can’t draft.
He was over ruled by the front office on the head coach
He actually gave up draft picks for Jalen Reagor
Traded twice with division rivals without getting much in return in his 1st draft
Oh did I say the man can’t draft.
Koc did wonders with what he has been given. Just my 2 cents.
Everyone said Speilman left this team with cap problems. Yeah that’s what happens when you draft and have to resign your guys’
Speilman and KOC would of been good imo
I think with what KOC has done with the culture and the personal he had on the 53 man roster, her deserves it, and I look forward to him being the coach. KWESI I have only one huge fear, his drafts. That's huge in my opinion in finding young great talent, for low cost. And he's pretty much failed. For 3 years, there's 1 solid draft. And 2 that are being developed. Turner, Will, and Addison are his only hits.
my man…. Here you go: I Think People overestimate the NFL Draft under Rick Spielman the Vikings average 2 “hits” each year from draft or UDFA
2012- Smith, Wright
2013- Rhodes, Thielen
2014- Barr
2015- Kendricks, Hunter, Diggs, Harris
2016- Ham
2017- Cook
2018- O’Neill
2019- Bradbury, Mattison
2020- Jefferson, Metellus
2021- Darrisaw, Bynum
And under Kewsi they are also averaging 2
2022- Nailor, Wright
2023- Addison, Pace
2024- Turner, Reichard (MORE TBD)
Culture doest win games
@hodaka175 well, they've been winning alot of games. With bad quarterbacks, below average o line, and we haven't had a good RB since KOC either. So, I'm just saying, that's impressive
He needs to hit on a starter this draft period
If it was my decision I'd promote Flores to Assistant Head Coach, then let KOC and Flores draft and sign their own guys.
Kwesi knows the art of delegating certain decisions. I think he'll find a way to get a more expert decision maker involved to help overhaul the interior offensive line this offseason. Idk what that would entail, but he's resourceful enough that I think he'll find a way, to find someone who can help him make better decisions at building an offensive line. One way or another.
Just fix the offensive line . start a center.
Go 100% with JJ...CUT Sam
Need a Veteran QB either as a starter or backup. JJ hasn't even taken a real NFL snap in a meaningful game yet.
I’m gonna say one off season move this team needs to do. Is to move on from Chris cooper the OL line coach. I think there’s better options out there at OL coach.
As long as KOC keeps calling the offense! The Vikings will never win a playoff game!!
I wish the bokings would have done what I wanted them to do. Trade jefferson and 2 fifst round picks for Jayden Daniels. Now we ha e a true franchise qb and Addison and Hockenson to go with it. McHandoff is not even in the same class as Daniels. Everyone was bocking at my pick because Daniels was to thin he'd get hurt right away people said. Well 1000 yds rushing later Daniels is still looking like a future goat in the NFL. Doesnt matter if you have a Jefferson if McHandoff cant get the ball to him. McHandoff is already fragile gets a knee injury in one half preseason game so running isnt an option.
Where’s that lions fan who always bugs on purple daily? Lions are always the lions. HAHAHA
Please stop talking about Sam Darnold being a Viking in 25' they drafted a top 10 QB a year ago JJ McCarthy should be competing for the starting job and quite frankly he should be a shoe in for it. This Sam Darnold Vikings offense isn't good enough and believe me it was maxed out KOC maxed that shit out and it wasn't nearly good enough.
Stroud was sacked 8 times today. Wonder if he’ll take as much shyte as Darnold has? Guess the Texans need to dump him, right most Vikings fans?
Dump him, let’s pick him up.
Gm head coach do not need $
Kwesi still cant draft. He can go
I love Judd and Thor, but when are we going to talk about how wrong they were about Bo Nix?
Why does that matter in any way to Vikings fans?
Let's Go Vikings!! Skol! 🏈💜💛
23 unsigned Free Agents...NEXT YEAR'S TEAM UNRECONGNIZABLE....
Jones has already got paid, he will be cheap
KOC is easily the best coach we've had since Dennis Green and hes arguably better then him.
The playoff success will come.
Green went awhile before winning a playoff game as well
I'd agree with that. It's a pretty low bar though. Mike Tice, Leslie Frazier, Brad Childress
Very low bar but even Andy Ried had little success before Mahomes. He got bounced in the playoffs over and over
Drop kwesi sign koc and profit
Hahahaha
Let’s not forget KOC was the Rams OC when they won the superbowl! He was hired by the Vikings after that. Win! He knows how to win big games.
I want KOC to stay, I think he's a great coach and I'm happy he's here but he has not proven he knows how to win big games. Sean McVay has proven he knows how to win big games. Maybe KOC will prove that in time but in the 3 years he's been here he's had 3 really big games and his team has looked like trash in all 3. I know there can be excuses for the losses like Donatell's defense was terrible in the playoff game against the Giants but the cold fact of it is all 3 of those games his team got manhandled. I still believe he's capable of winning big games in the future though, he just has definitely not proven it yet.
McVay called the plays silly. And McVay never got Daniel Jones'ed. Lmfao
So far he's proven incapable of winning the big games so far. Him being successful as an OC is nice but I give that credit more to the coach who just outclassed him in the wild card.
This is the 2nd coach in a row to call plays KOC offense than Zimmer defense. I’m tired of that . Focus on the whole team
. Koc sucks at calling plays
Trade Jetts get those draft picks … WR don’t win Super bowls.. QB and Defense wins !
That's never happening
If i am the Vikings, I Start JJ McCarthy, Then i bring on jimmy Garrapollo as the backup with Mullens as the third. Then i go out and get Trey Smith, Drew Dallmon, And draft another interior offensive lineman to compete with Brandel. Then i look for a good size NT to anchor the defense and bring in as many corners as you can afford to to improve the defense, Bring bad Grueger-hill and bullard.
If Drew Lock and Daniel Jones had a baby his name would be JJ McCarthy. Why not sign both of JJ McCarthy's dad? They're available!
my Free Agency list Trey smith 30 mil per yr 2 Will Fries center Drew Dalman 18 per yr 2 ryan Kelly Te help bring back Tyler Conklin Dt D.J Jones, Levi Onwuzurke. Cb D J reed and Charvaries run back how abut Khalil Herbert try to get him in middle of season but bear would not trade went to cin
vikings wont win superbowl Wilfs want to make playoffs and make money if they dont sign a guard you know this is true
Oh so we can extend koc but not give Darnold a contract? Lets roll with thd unproven McHandoff whos never played a snap in a regular season game. A qb that handed off 90% of the time at Michigan which had an NFL calibdr line in college? With a pathetic running game here and an o line thats nediocre at best. OK that makes sense if you want to see McHandoff fail like Darnold did at NY go right abead. Darnold basically played his first true year in the nfl and he got 14 wins. But wzit you say he blew the pmayoff game. Yes bjt it was his first playoff game. What about Geoff who ks experienced in playoff games throwing 3 picks and fumbljnv the ball? Detroit pays him well and ge isnt going anywhere next year. Why is that. Because he won 15 games q mlre than Darnold did. So i do not get fans. I guess thats why ghey arent owners or coaches so they can just say and call it how they want.
Ryan Grigson was responsible for the trash O-line he put in front of Andrew Luck.
I think KOC is a good play caller in between the 20's but if he wants to win big games in the NFL this organization has to get better in the short yardage red zone situations and also can not be near the bottom of the NFL in rushing attempts. Look at all the teams left they all can run the football. Kwesi has been above average he needs to draft better. KOC hopefully learns from these 3 years. They both are tied together and are now tied to JJ McCarthy give them all 3 years together
well if get a rg and center plus running back the nthings will be diffferent in red zone
@anthonyschuster6403 RG CB S are the biggest 3 needs of the off season. I'd like for them to move on from Bradbury but for some reason they have this budget approach inside yes the contracts are team friendly but we saw how that works out against elite teams in the playoffs. If they can get a Trey Smith for 20 million you prob have to keep Bradbury but I'd rather get Teven Jenkins at RG a true road grader and then upgrade LG as well keep Brandel as the first depth piece or move on from Bradbury I know they like Jurgens but he's undersized also. They MUST upgrade inside.
It's kind of like the Sam Darnold situation to me. You have to SHOW ME something first, BEFORE you get an extension. Let's see a win in a PLAYOFF GAME, before we talk about any EXTENSION. It's great to average 13 wins every year, but it's NOT GREAT to exit in the first round of the playoffs every year!!! 😆😆😆
I think McCarthy is going to be a really good quarterback for us and I am ready to move forward with him. We have to improve interior offensive line and defensive lines. I agree we have to nail this draft, Kwesi’s first 3 drafts have been terrible and puts us in the situation of getting high priced free agents to make up for it. We can’t survive doing that! SKOL!!!
I am sure the Wilfs would have extended O'Connell but it is Quasi that is the problem - he is horrible (understatement) at drafting. In three year we have one player that is a starter. The Wilfs may need to change the GM, if so, will the new GM want O'Connell or choose their own Head coach?
Jordan Addison, mehki blackmon, JJ McCarthy, Dallas turner, Jalen nailor are all starters next season
What about the UDFAs and FAs. He has killed it.
@@danomite22 I said drafting UDFAs don't count they are just a crap shoot or an indicator the draft failed
@ that is a forecast, the record is the record
@The1-Wolf1 Well, that's a stupid take on your part.
There is no tension. This is all about talking heads doing what they do best...talk.
i can't believe how people fall for things so easily just because the talking heads are digging deep for drama
There are _people_ involved, and that means ego and pride are too. They haven't won. If there wasn't tension in the building, there'd be something wrong.
Extend them both to coincide with the duration of McCarthy’s rookie contract. Their Viking careers will have to coincide with the success or failure of our QB.
I think it is entirely possible the kwesi and koc want to stick to the original plan with jj but the wilfs are causing the tension because they saw what happened this year and don't want to risk anything.... just a thougt
It’s not my money, so I hope the Wilfs pay Kwesi and Kevin as much money as will keep them happy and focused on winning.
The Wilfs can always change their mind and eat the remainder of the contract if things go sour unexpectedly.
My thinking with KoC's extension is it would be smart for them to factor in giving B Flo big time DC money. Give KoC big money while saving some to pay B Flo a good chunk so that money is less of a factor for B Flo taking a HC spot.
KOC is the cousin of couching, he has good regular seasons but can’t win a playoff game. I’ve watched enough Vikings games over the years. He has no in game adjustment skills and he has the same game plans all season every game which is why all his games starts the same and ends the same. His teams starts hot and stall for most of the games giving the other team a chance to get back in the game. If you watched the game against the lions a few weeks ago and watched the playoff games against the rams you’ll see that he had the same game plan and when it was obvious the rams came into that game with the same game plan the lions used to beat the Vikings KOC made no adjustments to help his QB out, he kept calling the same plays that were getting him hit. As for the GM he should’ve been fire two years ago. Every good teams are built through the draft and the GM has shown that he has no clue what he’s doing in the draft, three seasons over 30 picks, please show me how many of the players he drafted are still on the team or in the league? There’s a lots of great young up and coming GM names out there, I think the Vikings you go get one of them like the assistant GM of the broncos. Ownership should cut their loses now and let them both walk cause in my humble opinion they’ll be firing them in a few years anyway.
it sounds like you are the koc of commenting then
@@OliverPantsoff no I am a fan who know he’s seen enough to know that the Vikings can do better. As a midwesterners we are so humbled and gracious and sometimes I wish we would demand more from our teams like the do in other cities across the country Philly let a Super Bowl winning couch walk and they’re still doing great.
@@Curtis_luffy sorry my bad.....you are the kurt cousins of comments
@ Lool I might be.
I'm fine with extending O'Connell [in case I'm wrong about his ceiling] but they have to be able to and willing to replace him before the next contract is fulfilled.
skol, good morning everyone !
To let O'Connell identify a QB and then not even allow it to play out would be the dumbest thing ever. I don't think the Wilfs are stupid. It'll get done. There was all kinds of nonsense talk about Jefferson's situation last off season and it turned out it was all bs.
What older? They keep Harrison Smith and pay him $12 a season, and you telling me it’s not their fault. Give me break.
Worked out well.???????, ONE AND DONE IS OK.?
Let's be honest KOC was good in the regular season with his QB in 2 seasons. 2023 during the QB injury year KOC was horrible. In the 5 biggest games of KOC's 3 year career the Vikings got embarrassed in 4/5 and won a game they had 99.9% chance of losing if Josh Allen didn't fumble a snap a game in which they choked. They should get extended because of the body of work but not for more then 3 years
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Extend KOC fire Kwesi
Extend both for 5 years, clearly on the right path. Don’t get cheap, these dollars start the path to winning championships.
A great option for Sam D would be to send him to the 49ers. Sam is definitely an upgrade over Brock Purdy. Especially since Purdy wants top-tier money. Sam on a 3-year contract at $120M is far better than Purdy at $150M - $180M.
Could the tension be that ownership are interested in keeping Darnold while KOC wants to transition to JJ?
there is no tension....talking heads are trying to stir up drama out of boredom
Maybe 2 but let us see what they do now
It's a process. KO should not concern himself with results. Aka Payday.
$15M is too much for DJones
$8M is where I am at for him
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i wouldn't dare them
No extension until playoff win.
Nah I think we should still extend him but then after that absolutely
First one
Mediocre is mediocre.
If Drew Lock and JJ McCarthy had a baby his name would be JJ McCarthy. Why not go sign both of his daddies? They're available for dirt cheap. SKOL!!!!
Why are you always thinking about men having babies together?
@All22Jim How does that make you feel? You're here for a reason. Lmfao. Sad as F.
@@StillKeepOnLosing Makes me feel like you're always thinking about men having babies together.
@All22Jim Hmmm.. Projecting? I knew it. But you do you son. I dont judge.
@@All22Jim Ice up too. Lmfao
It's sad that people are impressed by Kwesi's Wall Street career.
Working on Wall Street doesn't mean much. Plenty of boys who spent four years too hungover to attend class work on Wall Street (and more than a few are making seven figures by the time they are Jaren Hall's age).
McCarthy was NOT O'Connell's favorite QB prospect, or second favorite, or third favorite.
We know he preferred McCarthy to Bo Nix and probably to Michael Penix.