More context about these Chinese Ubers: There Didi drivers are mostly migrant workers from rural, poorer townships that living on the relative poverty line of big cities like Shenzhen. They have to work 12-15 hours a day to make ends meet as roughly 30% of their fare goes straight to the ride share company‘s platform. Since they also wouldn’t have the money to purchase a new car to run the business, those cars you see in the Shell Recharge station are very likely rented. Added to the fact that Chinese Ubers are now saturated with supply, the revenue (not profit!) per day per driver can be as low as USD 45. They are all fighting a price war and basically no one is happy in the end because even the passengers are suffering, as those drivers often will not turn the AC on just to save probably like $0.5 on electricity.
One day, when cars that really need a charging spot cannot find one, they will need to hire people or robots to ticket the cars that are occupying the space but not charging. Hopefully, the fines will be enough for the extra cost.
Just looked up some reviews of this place on the Chinese Gaode map, seems that not only do those Didi drivers hoard parking spaces, they also urinate everywhere as there is no toilet facilities, or you might have to use the one from the cafeteria, which means you have to make purchases.
Interesting vid. I think it’s critically that NIO get power swaps into those areas. Those stations, with tons of different charging stalls, serve as great promo for all the cars parked along. People can wander along and see different makes and models. Not having a swap station there means NIO is missing out of providing that promo to all those other drivers who may be looking for a new car in the next few months. Cheers. D
One thing, is there a shortage of somewhere to charge a car in Shenzen? would be my argument if it is plentiful as I last saw in Shenzhen don't think it should be a huge issue there's plenty of free bays as you were walking around for someone to drive in find a spot and charge their car as most people will just be slow charging at their residence. This would be more for rideshare Didi drivers, BTW Sydney has Didi also which competes directly with Uber.
50% plus now for China is renewable power. coal fire power is getting less and less. the most important thing is "high voltage transmit" tech that sole owned by Chinese. we can transport renewable power from far far way place with a little bit wire lose. this is why I think other countries couldnot develop EVs, unless they could build a power house beside each town.
They seem not too big of a hurry lol. I guess they don’t mind waiting for a charge and smoking stogs. I saw a taxi swap station in Kunming, I’ll try and put up a video on the shorts section I guess if you wanna see it
The cost of land there must not be at a premium to facilitate so many chargers, but then again the charging spots appear to be quite narrow, or is that because the cars are wide? Just looks like one needs to be very careful opening doors getting in and out of the car parked in the bays. Very advanced compared to Australia, not heard or seen any Shell petrol stations with chargers.
this is pretty cool i have never seen the future until i saw this video. Can you please do a few more vids like these. I'm form Canada and all i see is a few Teslas this is unheard of here. Also could you do a full day video of a swap station i'm curious how busy are swap stations. I like that you show other ev's in the surrounding area not just nio thanks
I don’t know about a full day but I’ve been planning to go to the busiest swap station in Shenzhen and take a look, try to interview some NIO users there, etc
Wow that's just crazy. Maybe they should charge for parking so it's not treated as a rest area. We dropped our Nio off at a service center yesterday to have some bodywork done because some fool sideswiped us. It was Nio heaven. I've never seen so many in one place. Enjoy the Li it seems like a good ride.
Everybody alright from the sideswipe? That sucks, but on the other hand cool to see all those NIO. The LI drives nice, very comfy. Just would be better if it was fully electric, but I guess I'm in the minority on that opinion based on sales numbers.
Just something minor, all is well thanks. It does suck being a newer car. It was bound to happen unfortunately as the drivers here are what I call passive/aggressive for lack of a better term. It was more of a pain to work with the local traffic police. They didn't know how to deal with me being a foreigner. 3 hours later and we were on our way. @@Eric_Garrison
Setting standards? Considering China's electric power generation is 2.5x of the United State and 40% of that comes from renewable energy, this will be a pretty tough standard for other countries to meet.
Impressive in terms of size! Once they charge for parking or take blocking fees - it might not be that crowded anymore... The first time i charged my ET5 in a Mall parking- just for the experience- it reached 90% and stopped, 15min later a bar went up that has to be unblocked before you leave with an annoying voice on the floor that talks constantly, haha... Just a question of time there i guess
@@Eric_Garrison I didn't say they fell apart in your video. I know they will fall apart soon. Just like your slopaganda channel for which your are paid by the Chinese.
I dont see many NIO cars at the station. Is that because charging NIO cars at their NIO station would be more affordable or just because not many NIO cars on the road?
There are 2 PSS quite near to the airport already, I think they wouldn't need to charge at a place like this generally speaking unless for some reason they wanted to. Seems to almost exclusively be used by ride share drivers. I'm sure plenty of pick ups and drop offs at the airport.
@Eric_Garrison thank you for your response, Eric. If you are willing and have time, could you also film the demand of the BSS? Like how many cars are using BSS daily basis at one particular location. I think many shareholders would love to see that.
keep pumping out those NIO videos Eric!!!!
More context about these Chinese Ubers:
There Didi drivers are mostly migrant workers from rural, poorer townships that living on the relative poverty line of big cities like Shenzhen. They have to work 12-15 hours a day to make ends meet as roughly 30% of their fare goes straight to the ride share company‘s platform. Since they also wouldn’t have the money to purchase a new car to run the business, those cars you see in the Shell Recharge station are very likely rented. Added to the fact that Chinese Ubers are now saturated with supply, the revenue (not profit!) per day per driver can be as low as USD 45. They are all fighting a price war and basically no one is happy in the end because even the passengers are suffering, as those drivers often will not turn the AC on just to save probably like $0.5 on electricity.
We could have something like this in SoCal. However, Shell Recharge is notorious for not repairing their chargers.
One day, when cars that really need a charging spot cannot find one, they will need to hire people or robots to ticket the cars that are occupying the space but not charging. Hopefully, the fines will be enough for the extra cost.
8:40 The guys said just park there to take advantage of the free parking. 🤣🤣
Just looked up some reviews of this place on the Chinese Gaode map, seems that not only do those Didi drivers hoard parking spaces, they also urinate everywhere as there is no toilet facilities, or you might have to use the one from the cafeteria, which means you have to make purchases.
Interesting vid. I think it’s critically that NIO get power swaps into those areas. Those stations, with tons of different charging stalls, serve as great promo for all the cars parked along. People can wander along and see different makes and models. Not having a swap station there means NIO is missing out of providing that promo to all those other drivers who may be looking for a new car in the next few months. Cheers. D
We do need some more info about the NIO and shell partnership, I've also tried asking about it internally, but no info so far, thats europe based tho.
Whats the charging speeds, price
One thing, is there a shortage of somewhere to charge a car in Shenzen? would be my argument if it is plentiful as I last saw in Shenzhen don't think it should be a huge issue there's plenty of free bays as you were walking around for someone to drive in find a spot and charge their car as most people will just be slow charging at their residence. This would be more for rideshare Didi drivers, BTW Sydney has Didi also which competes directly with Uber.
May I ask exactly what’s powering all that electricity needed for these massive stations?
Coal fired power stations but that’s remote combustion, so different 😅
50% plus now for China is renewable power. coal fire power is getting less and less. the most important thing is "high voltage transmit" tech that sole owned by Chinese. we can transport renewable power from far far way place with a little bit wire lose. this is why I think other countries couldnot develop EVs, unless they could build a power house beside each town.
wish there were a couple of those on i5 and 99
Amazing amount of chargers. Maybe China can power this many DC fast chargers because of it's DC high voltage power lines.
Great video. I would be interested to know if they would prefer battery swap over Charging!
They seem not too big of a hurry lol. I guess they don’t mind waiting for a charge and smoking stogs. I saw a taxi swap station in Kunming, I’ll try and put up a video on the shorts section I guess if you wanna see it
The money's in novelties and concessions.
The cost of land there must not be at a premium to facilitate so many chargers, but then again the charging spots appear to be quite narrow, or is that because the cars are wide? Just looks like one needs to be very careful opening doors getting in and out of the car parked in the bays. Very advanced compared to Australia, not heard or seen any Shell petrol stations with chargers.
I hope the future ist NIO 🎉
this is pretty cool i have never seen the future until i saw this video. Can you please do a few more vids like these. I'm form Canada and all i see is a few Teslas this is unheard of here. Also could you do a full day video of a swap station i'm curious how busy are swap stations. I like that you show other ev's in the surrounding area not just nio thanks
I don’t know about a full day but I’ve been planning to go to the busiest swap station in Shenzhen and take a look, try to interview some NIO users there, etc
@@Eric_Garrison very nice
Nice video shows how advance china is🎉
Amazing Chinese EV infrastructure
Wow that's just crazy. Maybe they should charge for parking so it's not treated as a rest area. We dropped our Nio off at a service center yesterday to have some bodywork done because some fool sideswiped us. It was Nio heaven. I've never seen so many in one place. Enjoy the Li it seems like a good ride.
Everybody alright from the sideswipe? That sucks, but on the other hand cool to see all those NIO. The LI drives nice, very comfy. Just would be better if it was fully electric, but I guess I'm in the minority on that opinion based on sales numbers.
Just something minor, all is well thanks. It does suck being a newer car. It was bound to happen unfortunately as the drivers here are what I call passive/aggressive for lack of a better term. It was more of a pain to work with the local traffic police. They didn't know how to deal with me being a foreigner. 3 hours later and we were on our way. @@Eric_Garrison
Great.
I saw u this morning in front of our building, the Times finacial Centre, Futian. HaHa! Small world!
😂 should have said hello .
Setting standards? Considering China's electric power generation is 2.5x of the United State and 40% of that comes from renewable energy, this will be a pretty tough standard for other countries to meet.
Impressive in terms of size! Once they charge for parking or take blocking fees - it might not be that crowded anymore...
The first time i charged my ET5 in a Mall parking- just for the experience- it reached 90% and stopped, 15min later a bar went up that has to be unblocked before you leave with an annoying voice on the floor that talks constantly, haha...
Just a question of time there i guess
How are you liking the ET5? Which color did you get? Are you in the NIO foreigner WeChat group?
Yep, Christian S. - blue color and more than happy! Since the mentioned "Charge test", i didn´t stop to swap :-D@@Eric_Garrison
I see tofu dreg cars parking (not charging) at a tofu dreg charging hub. Is there a new tofu dreg standard you wanted to show us?
Why China bashers only know the word “tofu dregs”?
@@Eric_Garrison I know a few other words too. But tofu dreg is exactly what we see. How much are you paid for your slopaganda?
@@Erwt64which cars in the video were falling apart ? Why would anyone pay me to show a charging station? How poorly does your brain function?
@@Eric_Garrison I didn't say they fell apart in your video. I know they will fall apart soon. Just like your slopaganda channel for which your are paid by the Chinese.
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I get why most ev china cars dont come to US cause of the tax but why hasn't BYD over come this issue if Tesla can do it?
I dont see many NIO cars at the station. Is that because charging NIO cars at their NIO station would be more affordable or just because not many NIO cars on the road?
They just charge at home
NIO owners mainly swap the battery, and use a fast charger as last resort, to inconvenient. Also charge at home.
There are 2 PSS quite near to the airport already, I think they wouldn't need to charge at a place like this generally speaking unless for some reason they wanted to. Seems to almost exclusively be used by ride share drivers. I'm sure plenty of pick ups and drop offs at the airport.
@Eric_Garrison thank you for your response, Eric. If you are willing and have time, could you also film the demand of the BSS? Like how many cars are using BSS daily basis at one particular location. I think many shareholders would love to see that.
@@enockheewonyoon1001 do you mean BAAS. Would be good to see the queueing system on the NIO phone or app.
nice
What app did you use to rent the car?
I would also like to know
Li auto loaned me the car
so many brands, NIO continuing like this will be out of business :(
🎉Shell×byd
all charged by coal powered power stations.......very green,not
They should be charged for parking! The majority of these cars are dog ugly! Are NIOs able to charge here, too?
Yea NIO or anyone can charge here. These cars are mostly cheap ride share that’s why they are so fug